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| 04:11.38 | HumanCell | I'm looking for a php guru with Code Igniter experience ... wanting some side work ... I need to spin up a web site quickly ... |
| 04:12.34 | HumanCell | I'll post to the uphpu jobs mail list ... figured that I'd check here also ... |
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| 05:15.41 | _psychic_ | anyone about? |
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| 15:00.35 | timinator | yo |
| 15:00.38 | timinator | :) |
| 15:00.55 | mindjuju | yo |
| 15:01.11 | mindjuju | anybody here do coding with CI besides utah_dave ? |
| 15:01.33 | timinator | and parachute pants were cool |
| 15:02.03 | mindjuju | parachute pants are still cool, what you talkin' about willis? |
| 15:02.17 | mindjuju | course, i never wore parachute pants |
| 15:02.24 | bwelker | i always wanted some |
| 15:02.44 | jsmith | mindjuju: I'm trying out Kohana... (fork of CI) |
| 15:02.44 | bwelker | i knew a girl who had a pair, she was hot, especially when she was wearing those |
| 15:03.37 | mindjuju | jsmith - was asking cause somebody came in last night looking for a contractor |
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| 15:07.04 | SunSparc | timinator: Yo! |
| 15:08.58 | timinator | yo! |
| 15:09.37 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:10.07 | bwelker | who knew people could be so entertained by a two letter word |
| 15:10.14 | bwelker | and some puncuation |
| 15:10.47 | SunSparc | sup |
| 15:11.03 | SunSparc | Or better yet, sup yo! |
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| 15:15.13 | mgeary | morning |
| 15:15.26 | wps | good morning |
| 15:15.39 | SunSparc | great morning |
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| 15:21.52 | mindjuju | timinator - don't forget the other salutations of the times |
| 15:22.00 | mindjuju | like word |
| 15:22.11 | timinator | WORD!! |
| 15:22.23 | mindjuju | word up, yo |
| 15:22.33 | bwelker | ahhh sheeet |
| 15:29.13 | mindjuju | anybody know off hand what permissions are required on the folder level, to use fpdf? |
| 15:30.01 | SunSparc | I would assume that like anything the user needs to be able to write to that folder |
| 15:30.09 | SunSparc | So fpdf is being run as the web user |
| 15:30.27 | SunSparc | Make sure the web user can write to the folder where the pdf's are being written to. |
| 15:30.45 | SunSparc | Unless you are just sending the pdf's straight to the browser. |
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| 15:38.19 | _psychic_ | any apache pros in here? I'm having a problem where a SSL version of a virtual host just doesn't respond anymore... :( |
| 15:38.33 | timinator | was "homie g" around that time?!?! |
| 15:39.02 | fungus | _psychic_: is apache running and listening on port 443? |
| 15:39.23 | _psychic_ | it *should* be |
| 15:39.23 | _psychic_ | the https version responds fine |
| 15:39.44 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Anything useful in the error.log file for that host? |
| 15:39.49 | _psychic_ | no |
| 15:39.54 | _psychic_ | that's the problem |
| 15:40.02 | _psychic_ | the access log remains empty |
| 15:40.14 | fungus | What is the difference between "https version" and "ssl version"? |
| 15:40.18 | _psychic_ | and the error log (even at debug level) just shows SSL start up stuff |
| 15:40.38 | _psychic_ | <VirtualHost *:80> and <VirtualHost *:443> |
| 15:40.42 | _psychic_ | fungus: ^ |
| 15:41.21 | fungus | ?? |
| 15:41.22 | fungus | What is the difference between "https version" and "ssl version"? |
| 15:41.41 | _psychic_ | sorry - http version responds fine |
| 15:41.45 | _psychic_ | (not https) |
| 15:42.15 | _psychic_ | I can bring the site up on http, and it works fine. When I do https, I get no response. |
| 15:42.16 | fungus | ok, the question comes again, can you verify that apache is listening on port 443 |
| 15:42.20 | SunSparc | Do different browsers do the same thing? |
| 15:42.51 | _psychic_ | fungus: not really, because I can't get a response there |
| 15:42.54 | _psychic_ | SunSparc: yes |
| 15:43.01 | fungus | Windows or *nix? |
| 15:43.12 | _psychic_ | apache2 on ubuntu |
| 15:43.16 | SunSparc | _psychic_: See if you can get more details from Charles |
| 15:43.28 | _psychic_ | I did |
| 15:43.44 | _psychic_ | the proxy returns an error because it gets no response from the remote host |
| 15:43.45 | fungus | netstat -tnlp | grep 443 |
| 15:44.20 | _psychic_ | yeah it's listening |
| 15:44.22 | SunSparc | does https work for any of the other vhosts in that configuration? or is that the only one? |
| 15:44.28 | _psychic_ | fungus: LISTEN 11297/apache2 |
| 15:44.32 | SunSparc | was it working before? |
| 15:44.43 | _psychic_ | it's the only config on the box |
| 15:46.02 | fungus | is the box on a public network? |
| 15:46.06 | _psychic_ | yeah |
| 15:46.16 | fungus | What's the ip? |
| 15:46.19 | fungus | or name? |
| 15:46.33 | _psychic_ | 67.202.29.149 |
| 15:46.52 | SunSparc | Got any firewall setup? iptables perhaps? |
| 15:47.11 | _psychic_ | no.... it's a clean install of the oS |
| 15:47.27 | fungus | Gotta be a firewall since apache is listening. |
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| 15:47.29 | _psychic_ | trying to repurpose this AMI for another project, but cant' get the SSL stuff working :/ |
| 15:47.38 | _psychic_ | hm |
| 15:47.57 | SunSparc | default install may block 443 |
| 15:48.09 | wps | I love being outside early in the morning |
| 15:48.12 | wps | the fresh, crisp air |
| 15:48.14 | wps | quiet |
| 15:48.19 | wps | I would have made a good farmer |
| 15:48.20 | SunSparc | wps: agreed |
| 15:48.37 | SunSparc | wps: I went running this morning and it felt great to be outside |
| 15:48.47 | wps | I was up painting |
| 15:49.03 | wps | went out as soon as it was light enough to se |
| 15:49.04 | wps | see |
| 15:49.04 | jsmith | wps: Painting? |
| 15:49.12 | fungus | _psychic_: check iptables -L to view a list of rules on the box itself. |
| 15:49.19 | jsmith | wps: As in "painting the house" or as in "painting a landscape" |
| 15:49.29 | wps | the house |
| 15:49.32 | _psychic_ | fungus: looks like it's accepting everything |
| 15:49.34 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 15:50.00 | wps | I'm painting the doors on the back of the house |
| 15:50.05 | _psychic_ | fungus: http://pastebin.com/m4be7015 |
| 15:50.19 | fungus | yup, it is |
| 15:50.30 | fungus | is there any other firewall external to the box? |
| 15:50.33 | wps | the developer did a cheap, pieces-of-crap job⦠no primer, etc, and all of the paint was cracked and pealing off |
| 15:50.43 | wps | so I had to sand the frames and doors all down and repaint |
| 15:50.54 | _psychic_ | fungus: this is an EC2 instance, so I'm not sure |
| 15:51.03 | _psychic_ | I doubt they'd be walling off SSL/TLS |
| 15:51.25 | wps | I need to take a pic of my garden for you, jsmith |
| 15:51.30 | wps | my corn is almost up to my shoulders |
| 15:52.20 | _psychic_ | fungus: I'll check into that - thanks for the help |
| 15:52.22 | jsmith | wps: Holy cow! My corn was doing awesome when I left, but since I'm on the road all month, I'm hoping it'll still be doing fine when I get back |
| 15:52.27 | fungus | http://blog.matt-darby.com/2008/05/15/aws-ec2-and-ssl/ |
| 15:52.35 | wps | the trick is automatic irrigation |
| 15:52.36 | wps | I love it |
| 15:52.40 | wps | I have my garden on a valve |
| 15:52.47 | wps | so it turns itself on and off |
| 15:53.09 | _psychic_ | fungus: yeah nice find |
| 15:53.41 | SunSparc | fungus: Yeah, good one |
| 15:54.02 | SunSparc | Seems like something Amazon should make more readily available. |
| 15:54.39 | mgeary | so, one of our partner companies is asking me if there's a way to find out where all their bandwidth is going (across 20 people's computers) |
| 15:54.50 | jsmith | wps: Some of us live in places where we get "automatic irrigation" from heaven, not hoses |
| 15:55.04 | mindjuju | @ mgeary - managed switch ? |
| 15:55.05 | mgeary | their router is some D-Link p.o.c |
| 15:55.09 | jsmith | mgeary: It's ugly, but ntop might just be the ticket |
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| 15:55.26 | wps | that'd be nice, jsmith |
| 15:55.26 | mgeary | jsmith: where does that need to be run? |
| 15:55.48 | jsmith | mgeary: Obviously on a box seeing all the traffic |
| 15:56.28 | mgeary | yeah.... therein will be the problem, i'm guessing |
| 15:58.32 | fungus | mgeary: if you don't have a manged switch, you can find an old dumb hub, connect the ntop computer to the hub, the uplink to the switch, and the uplink to the router |
| 16:02.46 | SunSparc | Anyone know of a good ERD tool for OS X? |
| 16:02.53 | SunSparc | I have been playing with OmniGraffle Pro and that is pretty nice, but not database design specific. |
| 16:03.02 | SunSparc | I am installing MySQL Workbench on my Parallels instance of XP, but would rather run in pure OS X. |
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| 16:05.33 | wps | I use whiteboard or OmniGraffle |
| 16:05.52 | wps | http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/ |
| 16:07.39 | SunSparc | wps: I did mention I was currently using OminGraffle Pro. ;) |
| 16:08.19 | SunSparc | I like it, but I wish there was something that could take what I made and put it into tables for me. |
| 16:08.39 | _psychic_ | (or cake models :) ) |
| 16:08.40 | SunSparc | Ah well, I usually do my design and construction in TextEdit anyway. |
| 16:09.00 | wps | spice cake with cream cheese frosting |
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| 16:42.54 | mgeary | ~boggle thebigdog |
| 16:42.55 | jbot | ACTION stares in flabbergasted astonishment at thebigdog |
| 16:43.07 | thebigdog | mgeary, kk |
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| 16:50.22 | jhicks | good morning! |
| 16:50.59 | bwelker | ~kk |
| 16:51.03 | jbot | kk is probably mgeary's favorite saying, or for thebigdog's benefit |
| 16:51.26 | bwelker | kk should be an action |
| 16:51.43 | bwelker | ~kk thebigdog |
| 16:51.55 | bwelker | nope, oh well |
| 16:53.06 | thebigdog | so sorry |
| 16:53.16 | bwelker | it's all your fault |
| 16:53.47 | bwelker | ~bwelker thebigdog |
| 16:53.48 | jbot | ACTION asks thebigdog lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought |
| 16:55.03 | mgeary | ~kk bwelker |
| 16:55.03 | jbot | ACTION whips out a bullhorn and blares out "KK! KK! 'OK' isn't good enough for me, it's gotta be 'KK'!" |
| 16:55.36 | bwelker | lol |
| 16:55.40 | bwelker | there ya go |
| 16:55.55 | thebigdog | haha |
| 16:56.02 | thebigdog | too much free time mgeary |
| 16:56.14 | bwelker | i knew someone would pull through for me ;) |
| 16:56.38 | mgeary | i'm rendering an AE video on one computer and converting PSDs to PDFs on another, thebigdog |
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| 16:58.05 | jhicks | cakephp question: I've got a users table and a tasks table and a tasks_users table (HABTM). A task can have more than one user assigned to it. I'm able to successfully view and add task (including multiple users). However, I can't get the edit to work so that it will save the changes to the users assigned. the User class has var $hasAndBelongsToMany = array('Task'); and the Task class has var $hasAndBelongsToMany = array('User'); Here's |
| 16:59.07 | bwelker | jhicks: upgrade to RC2, it has a few HABTM fixes |
| 16:59.21 | bwelker | if you're not on it already |
| 17:00.49 | jhicks | I believe I am on RC2. |
| 17:01.13 | bwelker | what was the rest of the thing you were gonna paste? |
| 17:01.39 | jhicks | oh, wait maybe not. |
| 17:01.57 | jhicks | 1.2.0.7125 RC1 |
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| 17:02.46 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 17:02.46 | jbot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in xilch|w's direction, hitting xilch|w and sending xilch|w flying into the closet |
| 17:03.44 | bwelker | mac, you should set it up like timinator so that jbot gives out an rlart as soon as you enter the channel |
| 17:07.02 | timinator | ya... I don't remember how I did it though |
| 17:07.04 | timinator | :( |
| 17:07.44 | wps | wallaby's! |
| 17:08.09 | jhicks | Well, I upgraded, but still not working. The debug SQL statements only show the update query on the tasks table but nothing being done to the tasks_users table (delete, insert). |
| 17:08.55 | bwelker | hmmm |
| 17:09.19 | bwelker | what does your form look like |
| 17:09.33 | timinator | anyone in the market for a iPod Touch 16gig? |
| 17:09.40 | bwelker | for $20? |
| 17:09.44 | timinator | and want to save a few bucks? |
| 17:09.45 | timinator | no |
| 17:09.56 | timinator | :) |
| 17:10.08 | mgeary | do i hear $50? |
| 17:10.11 | bwelker | 16GiB just isn't enough |
| 17:10.43 | timinator | 16 is a solid amount for most guys |
| 17:10.59 | timinator | I've got buddies w/ 30 gig iPod's that only use 3Gigs of it |
| 17:11.12 | timinator | but I'm not one of those guys |
| 17:11.19 | dataw0lf | bwelker: try 870 gigs of music |
| 17:11.20 | bwelker | i have a 30GiB, and i have troubles deciding what gets left off of it |
| 17:11.24 | timinator | I'm going back to my 80gig iPod |
| 17:11.25 | bwelker | w00t |
| 17:11.26 | bwelker | nice |
| 17:11.28 | wps | I have a 60 GB iPod and only use half of it |
| 17:11.44 | dataw0lf | and ... 3 terabytes now of video |
| 17:11.45 | wps | I do wish that there were a 32 GB iPhone though |
| 17:11.58 | wps | I don't need 60, but 32 instead of 16 would be nice |
| 17:12.02 | dataw0lf | gonna wait in line for the new iphone |
| 17:12.03 | jhicks | bwelker: here's the form --> http://bin.cakephp.org/view/591677090 |
| 17:12.08 | dataw0lf | http://0at.org/summer-2008.html |
| 17:12.10 | bwelker | yeah, if they had an 80GiB iPod touch... i'd be torn |
| 17:12.15 | timinator | you are dataw0lf |
| 17:12.16 | timinator | ?? |
| 17:13.01 | bwelker | jhicks: that looks like it should work |
| 17:14.23 | jhicks | That's what I thought too. |
| 17:14.50 | bwelker | maybe check $this->data after it hits the edit action |
| 17:14.54 | bwelker | ? |
| 17:14.57 | timinator | or are you asking who's going to? |
| 17:15.04 | jhicks | For example, I've got a task that has two users assigned to it but when I edit and de-select one and save, it doesn't remove the entry in tasks_users. |
| 17:15.11 | jhicks | Yeah, I'll try that. |
| 17:15.13 | bwelker | or make the HABTM declaration more in depth |
| 17:15.42 | bwelker | i'm sorry, i don't know, i'm just throwing out suggestions |
| 17:15.45 | dataw0lf | timinator: huh what? |
| 17:15.56 | wps | thanks for the link, dataw0lf |
| 17:16.14 | timinator | you said: gonna wait in line for the new iphone |
| 17:16.14 | dataw0lf | np |
| 17:16.18 | jhicks | Looks like I've just got this: $this->Task->save($this->data['Task'] |
| 17:16.20 | dataw0lf | yes... |
| 17:16.22 | timinator | are you going to stand in line? |
| 17:16.24 | jhicks | only saving the Task? |
| 17:16.24 | timinator | ah |
| 17:16.33 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 17:16.37 | bwelker | shouldn't matter |
| 17:16.42 | bwelker | it should still save it |
| 17:16.49 | bwelker | oh, wait |
| 17:16.53 | dataw0lf | new iphone with gps capabilities, especially in the API? aw jea. |
| 17:17.00 | bwelker | yeah, change $this->data['Task'] to $this->data |
| 17:17.04 | timinator | ya |
| 17:17.40 | timinator | tell me how AT&T works for ya |
| 17:17.42 | jhicks | yep, that did it |
| 17:17.46 | bwelker | nice |
| 17:17.47 | jhicks | thanks! |
| 17:17.49 | bwelker | np |
| 17:18.17 | bwelker | ~cookie jhicks |
| 17:19.59 | bwelker | s/contact/contract/ |
| 17:20.48 | timinator | dataw0lf: how'd you get 870gig on an Archos? |
| 17:22.06 | timinator | you just buy a cheap one and swap the HD? |
| 17:22.39 | dataw0lf | oh, no, no, 870 gigs of music |
| 17:22.44 | dataw0lf | I have a 160 gig Archos |
| 17:23.02 | timinator | ho |
| 17:23.09 | timinator | s/ho/oh/ |
| 17:23.31 | timinator | lol |
| 17:23.50 | dataw0lf | >_< |
| 17:26.59 | timinator | :) |
| 17:32.14 | mgeary | can anyone comment on this statement: "Do you need to build Apache with internal or external pcre libraries? This is important to configure mod_security" ? |
| 17:32.20 | mgeary | does apache build by default with internal pcre? is that a problem? |
| 17:33.40 | wps | I have a chuck of code that echos some text |
| 17:33.44 | wps | there are dollar signs in the text |
| 17:33.50 | wps | PHP is thinking that they are variables |
| 17:33.53 | wps | how do I escape them? |
| 17:34.03 | wps | I tried a slash but it didn't work |
| 17:34.16 | _psychic_ | single quotes around it? |
| 17:34.31 | wps | that's the strange thing |
| 17:34.34 | wps | it's already in single quotes |
| 17:34.53 | mgeary | wps: pastebin |
| 17:35.06 | wps | it might have something to do with the CMS that I am usingâ¦Â how it interprets the PHP |
| 17:35.25 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/86oPJY43.html |
| 17:35.36 | wps | lines 11 and 12 |
| 17:36.39 | wps | I hate building HTML emails probably more than anything else |
| 17:36.41 | wps | even taxes |
| 17:36.55 | mgeary | we've built a nice system that does it for us |
| 17:37.01 | mgeary | it's awesome |
| 17:37.07 | wps | even diarrhea |
| 17:37.38 | mgeary | wps: well, i'd guess your instinct is correct, your CMS is probably munging the content somehow |
| 17:37.48 | mgeary | tell us more about the CMS |
| 17:37.49 | wps | yeah |
| 17:37.54 | wps | it's customâ¦Â in-house |
| 17:38.25 | mgeary | ah |
| 17:38.27 | wps | is there an html entity for the dollar sign? |
| 17:39.06 | mgeary | not that i know of |
| 17:39.08 | wps | I haven't found one on the lists I have looked over |
| 17:39.33 | wps | arrrg |
| 17:41.38 | orsonj | try $ |
| 17:42.50 | wps | thanks, that worked |
| 17:43.13 | orsonj | cool |
| 17:43.32 | wps | where did you find it? |
| 17:45.08 | wps | http://frys.com/ <-- have you ever seen so many tabs?!?!?! |
| 17:45.26 | orsonj | I looked in the visibone book, but didn't find it. I noticed that ' and " looked like ascii codes, so I got the ascii code for $ and used it in the hopes it might work. |
| 17:45.38 | wps | ah |
| 17:45.59 | tierra | some Windows dialogs have been known to have more, heh |
| 18:05.27 | mindjuju | wps - here is an excellent resource for that stuff - http://www.lookuptables.com/ |
| 18:05.46 | mindjuju | it's off the famous asciitable.com site on the tab at the top, HTML entitities |
| 18:07.38 | mgeary | ~lart lookuptables for providing a non-searchable graphic |
| 18:07.38 | jbot | strangles lookuptables with a 9-pole serial cable for providing a non-searchable graphic |
| 18:08.16 | mgeary | did you know it's illegal to sell Sno Cones in Utah before June? |
| 18:08.37 | mindjuju | what you talkin' about willis? |
| 18:08.43 | mgeary | true story |
| 18:08.57 | mgeary | well |
| 18:08.59 | mgeary | let me qualify |
| 18:09.22 | mindjuju | no, there is no time, let me sum up |
| 18:09.45 | mgeary | http://www.idiotlaws.com/shaved-ice-stand-regulatated-in-provo-utah/ |
| 18:10.04 | mgeary | looks like it may have just been provo |
| 18:10.23 | mindjuju | darn, nobody got my movie quote |
| 18:15.25 | bwelker | i did |
| 18:15.40 | bwelker | i just got here though |
| 18:15.46 | bwelker | princess bride |
| 18:15.51 | mindjuju | yup |
| 18:16.05 | mindjuju | actually, mgeary would have needed to say "let me explain" |
| 18:16.14 | mindjuju | but it was close enough to play off of, methinks |
| 18:16.19 | bwelker | yeah |
| 18:16.31 | bwelker | it was the "let me sum up" that did it |
| 18:16.42 | bwelker | that indigo, what a crazy guy |
| 18:16.58 | bwelker | so bummed that the shirt offered at think geek got his name worng |
| 18:17.06 | bwelker | s/worng/wrong/ |
| 18:17.06 | mindjuju | he was on AMC the other day with Rob Renier to talk about princess bride while they screened |
| 18:17.12 | mindjuju | it was cool to see him talk about his roll |
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| 18:17.47 | bwelker | i showed him in another show he was doing to my wife, and it took her a while to recognize him |
| 18:17.57 | bwelker | he looks so different now |
| 18:19.07 | mindjuju | it's funny how everybody is making fun of the happening, i thought it looked good |
| 18:19.10 | mindjuju | but haven't seen it |
| 18:19.33 | bwelker | it sucked |
| 18:19.36 | bwelker | seriously |
| 18:19.45 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 18:19.54 | mindjuju | the other movie i want to see is I am legend |
| 18:19.56 | mindjuju | that looked cool |
| 18:20.14 | bwelker | the directors cut of that is better, the ending fits more |
| 18:20.21 | bwelker | makes more sense |
| 18:21.03 | orsonj | I liked "I am Legend" |
| 18:21.54 | orsonj | hmmm, so I should go rent the dvd of I am legend? |
| 18:22.01 | bwelker | yeah |
| 18:22.21 | bwelker | or... if you've already seen it, you can google the alternate ending |
| 18:38.37 | DexterTheDragon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inigo_Montoya |
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| 18:41.32 | bwelker | that's messed up, i looked it up not too long ago and it said Indigo |
| 18:41.42 | bwelker | stupid changing wikipedia |
| 18:53.36 | josephscott | macnewbold: how far away is your office from http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/843968/ ? |
| 18:54.16 | mindjuju | like 5 minutes josephscott |
| 18:54.30 | mindjuju | if i recall |
| 18:54.43 | josephscott | reasonable walking distance then? |
| 18:55.15 | mindjuju | i think prolly several city blocks, but i'll be driving up |
| 18:55.29 | mindjuju | and could prolly see my way to driving to code greene for an after lunch partay |
| 18:55.44 | mindjuju | that is if dexterthedragon or somebody there will meet me on the air hockey court |
| 18:56.18 | bwelker | it's ~2 block |
| 18:56.41 | bwelker | er... nm |
| 18:58.02 | bwelker | ~7 blocks |
| 18:58.55 | mindjuju | josephscott - http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=44+Exchange+Pl,+Salt+Lake+City,+UT+84111&geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=162+South+400+West+84101&f=d&sll=40.761384,-111.889498&sspn=0.007403,0.012789&ie=UTF8&z=16 |
| 18:59.03 | bwelker | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=162+S+400+W,+Salt+Lake+City,+UT+84101&daddr=44+Exchange+Pl,+Salt+Lake+City,+Salt+Lake,+Utah+84111,+United+States&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=40.763576,-111.896008&sspn=0.018593,0.039139&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16 |
| 18:59.08 | bwelker | half a second too late |
| 18:59.09 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: its a few blocks away. I'd just take traxs to get there |
| 18:59.30 | PoeticIntensity | Hey guys, .... sort of off-topic, but does anyone know if the Intel Q6600 processor is a true quad-core, or if it is a dual-core hyper-threaded...? |
| 18:59.35 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: any of you guys planning to go? |
| 19:00.04 | DexterTheDragon | yeah there's a couple of us planning on it |
| 19:01.30 | josephscott | cool, was going to talk about macnewbold about working out of your office that day |
| 19:03.31 | mindjuju | tucanos |
| 19:03.49 | josephscott | haha, would love to, but not ready to pull the trigger just yet |
| 19:04.18 | mindjuju | yeah, that $60 monthly fee is really a deterrent |
| 19:05.00 | orsonj | yep, see joy of tech: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html |
| 19:05.55 | josephscott | I'm keeping my options open :-) |
| 19:06.11 | mindjuju | orsonj - that's awesome |
| 19:06.27 | orsonj | millionaire vs iPhone hmmmmmm |
| 19:06.36 | mindjuju | fortunately for me, i opted on a new computer so my iphone funds have been depleted |
| 19:06.49 | mindjuju | now my box at home is spanking hawt |
| 19:06.58 | mindjuju | like Poeticintensity 's car, but hawter |
| 19:07.04 | orsonj | heh |
| 19:07.36 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... rock on. |
| 19:07.42 | PoeticIntensity | what did ya get, mindjuju ? |
| 19:09.08 | mindjuju | amd 64 x2 640+ , 4g ram, 500g SATA seagate, geforce 8800 |
| 19:09.20 | PoeticIntensity | ooohh... the 6400+... |
| 19:09.23 | mindjuju | mobo was an msi that i can't recall at the moment |
| 19:09.32 | PoeticIntensity | I'll bet ya love that thing... |
| 19:09.45 | mindjuju | yeah, took it around the block this weekend |
| 19:09.47 | mindjuju | v nice |
| 19:09.51 | DexterTheDragon | running windows |
| 19:09.59 | PoeticIntensity | I just did a comparison of the new Phenom compared with the 4200+ and the 6000+ (didn't have access to a 6400+) |
| 19:10.14 | PoeticIntensity | (very, very, very rough comparison) |
| 19:10.34 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon - i tried to install ubuntu |
| 19:10.38 | PoeticIntensity | I just compiled two programs and timed em'... |
| 19:10.46 | mindjuju | but was getting grief about the pci-express |
| 19:10.54 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3955&user=1 |
| 19:10.56 | PoeticIntensity | pci-express? |
| 19:11.03 | PoeticIntensity | Ubuntu should *definitely* handle that. |
| 19:11.25 | mindjuju | all i can tell you is that it would get like 2 minutes into the install and then dump me to a command prompt |
| 19:12.08 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity - what distro you use? |
| 19:12.13 | PoeticIntensity | gentoo |
| 19:12.21 | PoeticIntensity | pretty much the exact opposite of Ubuntu. |
| 19:12.32 | PoeticIntensity | but man, I love it. |
| 19:15.26 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: I was about to try to install gentoo but decided to wait for 2008 |
| 19:15.38 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 19:15.49 | PoeticIntensity | once it's installed it doesn't matter what you install it from. |
| 19:30.53 | _psychic_ | anyone here work at omniture? |
| 19:31.00 | _psychic_ | I thought there was someone. |
| 19:31.00 | mindjuju | wps does |
| 19:31.08 | _psychic_ | right |
| 19:31.10 | mindjuju | and actually, somebody else |
| 19:31.26 | _psychic_ | who are omniture's main competitors? |
| 19:31.33 | mindjuju | i think his name was kingsol and he's a sysadmin there, if i recall correctly |
| 19:33.19 | mgeary | _psychic_: i'd say google |
| 19:33.24 | jsmith | mindjuju: He works with wps -- he's part of the marketing department, not the Network Operations dept. |
| 19:33.25 | mgeary | google analytics |
| 19:33.46 | _psychic_ | mgeary: good point |
| 19:34.04 | mindjuju | thx for correction jsmith, i thought he was there, but wasn't exactly sure |
| 19:34.14 | jsmith | Yup... |
| 20:09.22 | wps | mindjuju: kingsol and I are marketing operations and technology |
| 20:09.38 | wps | at Omniture |
| 20:10.19 | wps | errâ¦Â Interactive Marketing & Operations is a better way to say it |
| 20:15.09 | mgeary | the two of you are the whole department? |
| 20:15.21 | wps | yes |
| 20:15.31 | wps | but it's not really a department |
| 20:17.12 | wps | we are a group within the lead generation group |
| 20:17.18 | wps | â¦which is part of marketing |
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| 21:14.47 | jhicks | cakephp 1.2 question (I'm full of them!): Trying to do pagination sorting in an index view where one of the columns is from an HABTM join table. Here is my code: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/567565943. Not sure what is missing here except for if maybe the syntax for specifying the model in the view in the $paginator->sort is incorrect. |
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| 21:34.00 | jhicks | _pychic_: I posted this just before you popped in, so I'll just post it again... cakephp 1.2 question (I'm full of them!): Trying to do pagination sorting in an index view where one of the columns is from an HABTM join table. Here is my code: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/567565943. Not sure what is missing here except for if maybe the syntax for specifying the model in the view in the $paginator->sort is incorrect. |
| 21:42.34 | _psychic_ | unfortunately I'm not all up on pagination yet |
| 21:43.09 | _psychic_ | maybe that's a good next target for docs refinement :/ |
| 21:43.54 | jhicks | cool, thanks anyway |
| 22:05.01 | orsonj | ~rlart |
| 22:05.02 | jbot | flings poo at djcode |
| 22:07.43 | wps | how old is jbot? |
| 22:07.45 | wps | four? |
| 22:08.17 | dataw0lf | he was introduced about the same time I joined, so, yea about that old. |
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| 22:13.42 | wps | you seem to have graduated past fecal-flipping however |
| 22:17.45 | mgeary | yeah, i've been meaning to congratulate you on that, dataw0lf |
| 22:18.26 | dataw0lf | One of these days, Alice! |
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| 22:19.06 | dataw0lf | network splits losing my nickserv ident |
| 22:20.12 | _psychic_ | The freenode half-life has decreased significantly lately. |
| 22:20.40 | dataw0lf | influx of newbs, without substantial growth in the network, most likely. |
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| 22:46.13 | bwelker | i have an apache conf question |
| 22:47.26 | bwelker | i have a folder on my jump drive, and I'd like to make a virtualhost directive to that directory, but only if the directory exists (the jump drive is plugged in), is there a way to specify some kind of if directory exists directive? |
| 22:47.50 | bwelker | so that I don't have to comment and uncomment that portion all the time |
| 22:48.15 | wps | what do you want it to do if the drive isn't there? |
| 22:48.25 | bwelker | deny the directory |
| 22:48.34 | bwelker | or just not even set it as a virtualhost |
| 22:49.04 | bwelker | something along the lines of <IfModule> would be perfect, but I don't know if something like that exisits for directories |
| 22:50.41 | bwelker | the problem I'm having right now, is that if i forget to comment out that line, apache fails with the following error: <Directory "E:/path"> path is invalid. |
| 22:51.10 | bwelker | but i'd like it to just skip over it if the jump drive is not present |
| 22:54.53 | bwelker | oh well, I'll just comment the lines, I just thought I'd ask in hopes that someone knew something I didn't |
| 22:55.24 | josephscott | bwelker: I think this is about as close as it currently gets: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#ifdefine |
| 22:55.37 | josephscott | still have to provide a command line parameter |
| 22:56.15 | bwelker | yeah, i saw that, but it seems like it would be more hassle than the current situation |
| 22:56.19 | bwelker | thanks for looking though |
| 22:58.07 | beandog | oompa |
| 23:14.09 | fungus | bwelker: if you just leave the VirtualHost in there, it will work just like that. |
| 23:14.37 | fungus | Without the jump drive, it will be an empty directory, that's all. |
| 23:14.47 | fungus | With the jump drive, the site will run as expected. |
| 23:15.06 | bwelker | nope, it crashes |
| 23:15.17 | bwelker | saying the directory is invalid |
| 23:15.42 | fungus | Oh, you're specifying a directory inside the jump drive, not just the root of the jump drive. |
| 23:16.35 | bwelker | right |
| 23:17.13 | wps | what if document root was to a soft link within the boot volumn that pointed to the thumb drive? |
| 23:17.28 | bwelker | wow |
| 23:17.35 | bwelker | thats making it complicated |
| 23:17.36 | fungus | The soft link would be resolved at apache start up too |
| 23:17.49 | fungus | hence still being broken the same way. |
| 23:17.51 | wps | why is he starting and stopping Apache though? |
| 23:18.05 | wps | start apache with the drive in |
| 23:18.12 | fungus | that might work. |
| 23:18.14 | bwelker | but i'm on windows, so i'm not sure how the soft link would react to the jump drive being removed |
| 23:18.14 | wps | apache's not going to know if you yank it, will it? |
| 23:18.24 | bwelker | no, it doesn't |
| 23:18.35 | bwelker | but if it crashes and tries to restart, it fails |
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| 23:18.48 | fungus | ahh, windows. that limits your options even more. |
| 23:18.51 | wps | ah, and since you're running it on windows, it crazes occassionally |
| 23:20.10 | bwelker | yeah, it does, but that's the price i pay for having a superior OS |
| 23:20.19 | bwelker | ;) |
| 23:21.07 | fungus | Get a Mac, power of *nix, but brain dead easy like Windows. |
| 23:21.33 | bwelker | and about twice the price |
| 23:21.43 | wps | that's sure not true |
| 23:22.00 | wps | and fungus, I think it's much easier than windows |
| 23:22.09 | bwelker | they're expensive, more so than a pc |
| 23:22.25 | bwelker | and proprietary, so very hard to upgrade |
| 23:23.02 | wps | enjoy your OS then |
| 23:23.16 | fungus | bwelker hasn't noticed that Macs are just PCs with a different OS nowdays |
| 23:24.59 | dataw0lf | x86 ftw |
| 23:25.38 | bwelker | yeah, i noticed |
| 23:25.50 | bwelker | i'll stick with mine, though |
| 23:26.20 | fungus | Then at least install a *nix OS, even if you have to do a VM |
| 23:26.38 | bwelker | nah |
| 23:26.48 | bwelker | it all runs on windows just fine |
| 23:27.01 | dataw0lf | do you deploy to a *nix machine? |
| 23:27.23 | bwelker | for what? practicing my obscure character typeing skills? |
| 23:27.41 | dataw0lf | obscure? you'd be worth more... |
| 23:27.50 | bwelker | i'm worth lotsw |
| 23:28.02 | bwelker | like a billion pesos or something |
| 23:28.20 | bwelker | ( = $3.76) |
| 23:28.24 | dataw0lf | The assumption that *nix knowledge is obscure in web development - laughable. |
| 23:28.35 | dataw0lf | Since it has significantly more market penetration than Windows. |
| 23:28.39 | bwelker | i never said the knowledge was obscure |
| 23:28.54 | bwelker | i said the characters were obscure |
| 23:29.01 | dataw0lf | ... what characters? |
| 23:29.10 | bwelker | nm |
| 23:29.13 | bwelker | it was a joke |
| 23:29.26 | fungus | He's not a command line fan. |
| 23:29.32 | bwelker | exactly |
| 23:29.40 | dataw0lf | The "characters" aren't obscure. |
| 23:29.47 | dataw0lf | Knowledge of the command line isn't obscure either. |
| 23:29.50 | bwelker | although i'm not ignorant to it |
| 23:30.11 | bwelker | you're getting way too defensive about this, i'm just joking around |
| 23:30.11 | fungus | bwelker: FYI, Windows is moving more and more to command line based management. |
| 23:30.44 | fungus | See WSH, PowerShell, and Exchange Management in 2007 |
| 23:30.52 | dataw0lf | I just want to clarify your argument. You're arguing that the command line is 'obscure', apparently. Which it isn't. Especially in web development, when more likely then not you're going to deploy to a *nix machine. |
| 23:31.01 | bwelker | nope, not at all |
| 23:31.08 | dataw0lf | Replication of your deployment environment is a pretty important point of development. |
| 23:31.26 | bwelker | everything i do in windows ports perfectly to nix |
| 23:31.34 | beandog | dataw0lf, next thing youre gonna say I should have offsite backups or something |
| 23:31.45 | bwelker | i've never had any problems |
| 23:31.51 | dataw0lf | Then you haven't ported much from Windows to *nix. |
| 23:31.56 | bwelker | whats an offsite backup? |
| 23:32.08 | bwelker | ;) |
| 23:32.16 | bwelker | ^ before you jump on me for that too |
| 23:32.20 | beandog | thats where you keep all your boss's confidential files for when they fire you |
| 23:32.55 | beandog | on your last day just say "oh btw, I've been sniffing your IM conversations for the last 3 years. And, that's sick." |
| 23:33.05 | dataw0lf | (even if you haven't) |
| 23:34.45 | beandog | dataw0lf, just the expression on their face would be priceless |
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| 23:34.53 | fungus | wireshark by itself is useless in the switched environments we use these days. |
| 23:35.23 | beandog | fungus, thats why you convince everyone you need a new router, that's also a linux box you setup all by yourself |
| 23:35.26 | dataw0lf | MITM baby. |
| 23:35.47 | beandog | that or just stick a wireless router next to your desk and open it up |
| 23:36.14 | dataw0lf | beandog: you don't need any new hardware |
| 23:36.20 | dataw0lf | ARP spoof, route through your machine |
| 23:36.39 | beandog | dataw0lf, ah, arp poisioning .. Ive heard good things about that. |
| 23:36.39 | fungus | sudo apt-get install dsniff |
| 23:37.38 | dataw0lf | mmm dsniff |
| 23:38.27 | fungus | or "emerge dsniff" for beandog. :) |
| 23:39.38 | fungus | dsniff comes with all kinds of awesome tools. |
| 23:39.52 | dataw0lf | yea, it's a pretty well-rounded package. |
| 23:39.54 | beandog | like what |
| 23:40.06 | fungus | dsniff (passwords) urlsnarf (URLs) arpspoof, and some mitm tools too |
| 23:40.13 | dataw0lf | webspy |
| 23:40.19 | beandog | ooh man, these look evil. |
| 23:40.22 | dataw0lf | amusing stuff. |
| 23:40.45 | beandog | oh wow |
| 23:40.50 | beandog | new toys! |
| 23:41.18 | beandog | I'll install it at home and jump on the neighbor's wifi |
| 23:41.24 | timinator | gotta run guys.... late |
| 23:42.51 | fungus | cool, I overlooked webspy, always just used urlsnarf. webspy is much more fun. |
| 23:43.18 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 23:43.22 | dataw0lf | amusing stuff. |
| 23:43.28 | dataw0lf | shoot already said that |
| 23:44.51 | dataw0lf | in other news, I figured out how to stream Netflix Watch from my laptop to my Xbox 360 |
| 23:44.54 | dataw0lf | awesome stuff. |
| 23:45.14 | fungus | I went the easy way and bought the little Roku Netflix Player. |
| 23:45.45 | dataw0lf | yea, I was about to in frustration. |
| 23:45.51 | dataw0lf | finally got it working last night though |
| 23:46.02 | fungus | congrats, that couldn't have been easy. |
| 23:46.33 | beandog | I need to figure out how to get unpnp working for my ps3 |
| 23:46.34 | fungus | especially since Netflx inflicts that nasty windows media player DRM crud |
| 23:46.40 | beandog | er, upnp |
| 23:48.07 | fungus | I always disable that. Something scary about any program that can change my firewall without my permission |
| 23:48.34 | beandog | Ive heard its horribly insecure. |
| 23:49.04 | fungus | It is, there is no authentication at all. Any virus can open ports at will. |
| 23:50.10 | dataw0lf | yea, UPnP is no bueno. |
| 23:51.30 | beandog | oh well, I didnt want it that bad. |