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14:08.40mindjujuugh, sooooo tired
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14:34.20Utah_Davemindjuju: me too.
14:36.45mindjujuwhich has a freakin' awesome finale
14:42.37bwelkersaw her live, was kinda disappointed
14:42.55bwelkermixing was good, energy was sorely lacking
14:43.23mindjujureally?
14:43.33mindjujuwhere was she at?
14:43.40mindjujuyou didn't go to Ultra, did you?
14:43.40bwelkerport o call of all places
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14:43.46bwelkernope
14:44.08mindjujuwould have been very jealous
14:44.28bwelkerit was a few years ago, right around the time mixtress came out
14:45.52mindjujudo you like tiesto?
14:47.13bwelkerof course
14:47.31bwelkernyana is an awesome cd
14:47.38mindjujugot one of his concerts on DVD for Christmas
14:47.42mindjujuvery cool
14:47.43bwelkernice
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14:57.42bwelkerCaptain fel off the bridge!
14:58.27bwelkerCaptain needs to be more careful on those rickety old rope bridges
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15:04.31influx^^How do I name a screen session after it has already been opened?
15:04.36influx^^If that's possible.
15:04.43influx^^too tired to read man page
15:04.57influx^^or read internets
15:07.16mindjujubwelker - http://screencast.com/t/QxKjV6j5
15:07.17fungusinflux^^: Ctrl-A : to enter command mode
15:07.30fungusthen the command is sessionname "name"
15:07.54mindjujui have a super nice projector that some friggin' goofus left on over the weekend and damaged, it's a company project, so it can't be used, cost nearly as much to replace as to fix
15:08.04mindjujuso they bought new to replace, and i stole the old one
15:08.20mindjujuusing it to play the Tiesto 2k4 concert big in my office
15:09.40influx^^fungus: Thanks much. :D
15:09.49macnewboldmindjuju: so you got it fixed?
15:10.17mindjujunope, sadly the left side will start to go blue in about 10 minutes
15:10.34mindjujuit isn't all the way blue, but in a business setting, wouldn't be appropriate
15:10.40influx^^session name dootdoot
15:10.43influx^^huh
15:10.43mindjujubut it's good enough for me!
15:11.52mindjujunothing fancy like the macnewbold clan have @ codegreen with their foosball and fancy shmancy TVs and apple TV and such
15:12.55bwelkerhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/
15:13.01bwelkervideo #2 coming soon to CG
15:13.50bwelkerbut can easily be put to use in any office
15:14.00bwelkereven yours, mindjuju
15:14.06bwelker;)
15:14.23bwelkeralthough the left side might be a bit blue   ;)
15:15.34macnewbold~rlart
15:15.35jbotblames influx^^ for all the evil in the world
15:15.55bwelker~lart macnewbolds rlarts
15:15.55jbotfrags macnewbolds rlarts with his BFG9000
15:16.46bwelker~lart my lartyness
15:16.46jbotoverclocks my lartyness until my lartyness burns out
15:16.50mindjujubwelker - that's awesome!
15:16.56bwelkerlol
15:16.59bwelkerisn't it though
15:17.18macnewboldwe did some fun proof of concept yesterday
15:17.22macnewboldit is pretty impressive
15:17.31bwelkeri showed the bosses here and mark ran out and bought a wiimote that day
15:17.32mindjujuwhat kind of proofs?
15:17.36macnewboldcause it's just projected on the wall, there's no screen there or anything
15:17.38bwelkeras in it works
15:17.48bwelkerbut the pen needs some work
15:18.03mindjujuhow much is a wiii remote?
15:18.05macnewboldmark's dad happened to have an IR LED and a soldering gun, so he hacked together a simple IR dot for us
15:18.10bwelkerlike $30
15:18.19mindjujuyour kidding
15:18.20macnewboldmaybe $40-50
15:18.21bwelkernope
15:18.27macnewboldyeah, they're pretty cheap
15:18.34bwelker40-50 gets you a game on top of the wiimote
15:18.35macnewboldgood resolution too - 1024x768
15:18.40macnewboldwow
15:18.57bwelkerthats why the one mark bought was more, there was a game that came with it
15:18.58macnewboldit's easy to calibrate, just like a pen tablet
15:19.00macnewboldah
15:19.12macnewboldsweet, well when we get the wii for the office, we'll be able to use the game too
15:20.38bwelkerit's actually amazingly easy to set up, the guy who wrote the software did all the hard work for you
15:20.48macnewboldyeah, they've even got a Mac version which we used
15:20.50bwelkerthe only tough part is finding a really good spot to put the wiimote
15:21.00macnewboldsince we've got a mac mini hidden by our projector now, and use a wireless keyboard and mouse
15:21.36bwelkerso it has a good view of the whole screen but is not blocked by your body or hand or whatever, and is still out of the way
15:21.38macnewboldyeah, it has to have a good view of the screen (well, the pen anyway) that you don't obstruct when you write
15:21.44bwelkerha   i win
15:21.51macnewbold~educate bwelker
15:21.52jbotACTION teaches bwelker the basics, including how to RTM.
15:22.01macnewbold~punish bwelker
15:22.01jbotACTION forces bwelker to install and use Windows
15:22.06bwelkeri dont' need to read it, i wrotre it
15:22.08macnewboldhaha!
15:22.10bwelkerlol
15:22.19macnewboldhe uses windows _BY_CHOICE_!
15:22.39bwelkerit's the only way to code
15:22.42macnewbold~whaleslap bwelker
15:22.42jbotACTION beats bwelker upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
15:22.45bwelkerin textpad
15:22.56bwelkerwith IIS and SQL Server
15:22.59bwelkerw00t
15:23.09macnewboldnow with a remark like that, they're going to think you're just talking crazy, but people, that's what he really does!
15:23.16macnewboldI'm serious!
15:23.19macnewboldquit laughing!
15:23.20bwelkerlol
15:23.38macnewboldbenjam is in the other room rotfl
15:23.47bwelkeri win AGAIN
15:24.09bwelkerit's like interactive interwebs
15:24.26bwelkerwrite something funny, and a guy in the other room starts laughing
15:24.42bwelkershoot....   bring it
15:25.16bwelkeralthough i am getting pretty whooped in one of those webrisk games
15:25.22macnewboldI had a weird dream about webrisk last night that I just barely realized was a dream... it was bizarre. By the time it was my next turn I was all but eliminated from the game, and I couldn't figure out how it happened
15:25.36bwelkerthat wasn't a dream....
15:26.10mindjujuk, that site is freakin' cool, a $14 steadycam?
15:26.37bwelkerreally?   i guess i didn't explore very well
15:26.49mindjujuhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/
15:26.50bwelkeri got so excited about the whiteboard thing i stopped looking
15:27.31mindjujuseveral of these projects need to have some way to contribute to the dude
15:28.33bwelkerapparently google hasn't found him yet
15:28.44bwelkergoogle needs a hardware section
15:28.50bwelkerfor people like him
15:29.21mindjujucheck out this vid they did using the steadycam - http://littlegreatideas.com/steadycam/ebay/test_no_music.mov
15:35.48bwelkerit's pretty nice
15:36.07bwelkernot quite as good as a $30,000 one, but hey...
15:36.41mindjujuyeah, don't have 30k to put for just a steadycam
15:37.04bwelkereven if i did...   i'd probably buy a car or a new computer
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15:55.41mgeary~yow
15:56.12bwelkerwtf?
15:56.29bwelker~yow
15:56.38bwelkerahhh
15:56.42bwelkerlike a madlib?
15:56.55bwelker~yow
15:57.08mgearyewww
15:57.22bwelkeri think my mind purposely blocked that mental image
15:57.26bwelker~yow
15:57.38bwelkerran dom
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15:58.56bwelkerdon't fall off this time
15:59.09timinatorfo sho
15:59.46bwelkeri've never been on the bridge, but i'd imagine it's a long way down
16:00.26mgearyCharrrrrrlieeeeee. We're on a bridge, Charlieeeeee!
16:00.32bwelkerlol
16:00.42timinatorya, for some reason Colloquy has been hanging when I first login
16:00.47timinatordon't understand
16:00.49bwelkerbest. web. clip. evor.
16:01.07timinatormight be that I run 9+ programs at once
16:01.19timinatorbut it didn't used to hang
16:01.22timinator*shrug
16:01.27bwelkeri do too, maybe you should switch to windows
16:01.35timinatorpssh
16:01.40timinatorright
16:01.44timinatorthen all my apps would hang
16:01.54bwelkernah
16:01.59timinatorand I'd have to reinstall every 6mo
16:02.02bwelkerjust the one
16:02.09timinatorfor some wacky thing or other
16:02.09bwelkerexplorer.exe
16:02.10mindjujuzapping the PRAM fixes everything!
16:02.27timinatorya, explorer
16:02.29timinatorLOL
16:02.50timinatorzapping the PRAM?
16:02.55bwelkeralthough at least on vista when explorer dies, it pops right back up again
16:02.57timinatorhow do you do that on a laptop?
16:03.05bwelkerrub it on a magnet
16:03.08timinatorLOL
16:03.12mindjujuto zap the pram, you have to hold CNTRL + Option + P + R + ` + |
16:03.23timinatordang
16:03.31bwelkerdon't do it, it's a trick
16:03.43mgearyit's an Easter Egg that rickrolls you
16:03.49timinatorLOL
16:03.50mgearyhttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
16:04.03mindjujuyup, was just going to post that URL mgeary
16:04.09mindjujuand timinator, don't zap your pram
16:04.14mindjujui dont remember what it does
16:04.34mindjujubut i think it's akin to pulling your mac's pants down and spanking it like a naughty monkey
16:05.30timinatorwell, back in the day, you'd push a button on the motherboard..... but I haven't had to do that for years.... partially because I couldn't get to the motherboard on the laptop
16:05.31mindjujubut if i remember right, it deletes all your personalized settings
16:05.47timinatorLOL
16:05.52mindjujuheh
16:05.58timinatoryou should bwelker
16:05.59mindjujureminds me of sprokets
16:06.01bwelker"Bad Ubuntu, BAD"
16:06.24bwelkernah, not enough money or games
16:06.43bwelkerthey're nice, but i don't want to have to learn how to use my computer again
16:06.58mgearypsh
16:06.58bwelkeri barely found out about CTRL+ALT+DEL, what a lifesaver
16:07.02timinatorwhat do you use now bwelker ?
16:07.05bwelkerguess
16:07.18timinatorsheesh.... winblows
16:07.21mgearywell, gaming appears to be a priority, so he obviously uses Linux
16:07.30bwelkerlol
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16:09.16mgearyor a warm goat
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16:11.50SunSparcmgeary: Do you just have that setup as an automatic response.  ;)
16:12.01mgeary:)
16:12.21mindjujuhe has to type it in everytime
16:12.33wpsdoesn't _have_ to
16:12.35wps_gets_ to
16:12.39SunSparclol
16:13.55SunSparcheh
16:13.55dataw0lfdiscussion of family trees, or?
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16:14.02mindjujutoo late, there are 200k posted - http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=warm+goat&gbv=2
16:14.08bwelkergoatse? did i hear somebody wanted to see some goatse?
16:14.11SunSparcjbot clean up timinator's mess
16:14.12jbotACTION nukes up timinator's mess's room and says to up timinator's mess: Und zie problem is solved
16:15.48timinatorthank you jbot
16:15.54SunSparcwow, mindjuju, that is a lot of warm goat
16:16.07timinatorBe back in a bit... going to a meeting
16:16.52bwelkerbut you just got here...
16:18.19SunSparctiminator, come back when you can't spend so much time
16:19.18bwelkertiminator: i have that link you were asking me about earlier
16:33.40macnewbold~rlart
16:33.40jbotexecutes killall -HUP burnin
16:34.29bwelkerbut i already larted your rlarts
16:34.49bwelker~macnewbold is an rlart fanatic
16:34.50jbotACTION wallops is an rlart fanatic with a flip-flop
16:34.55bwelkerwtf
16:35.16bwelkerjbot, macnewbold is an rlart addict
16:35.17jbotACTION wallops is an rlart addict with a flip-flop
16:35.20SunSparcrlart is the Russian Roulette of larts
16:35.24mgearymacnewbold is an action
16:35.30mgearyi hate it when people do that
16:35.38SunSparchehe
16:35.39mgeary~literal macnewbold
16:35.39jbot"macnewbold" is "a nice person, or very good in stew.  Cookie Monster, or an ibot abuser"
16:35.44bwelkerright, but it doesn't work, all it sees is rlart and goes crazy with it
16:35.48mgearyyep
16:35.59mgearymindjuju, fix the macnewbold action
16:36.16macnewbold~lart mgeary
16:36.16jbotdeclares mgeary a moron
16:36.16bwelkerjbot, "macnewbold" is also "an rlart addict"
16:36.17jbotI think you lost me on that one, bwelker
16:36.22macnewbold~macnewbold
16:36.23jboti heard macnewbold is a nice person, or very good in stew.  Cookie Monster, or an ibot abuser
16:36.34mindjujuhuh?
16:36.37mgeary~macnewbold bwelker
16:36.37jbotACTION wallops bwelker with a flip-flop
16:36.38macnewbold~macnewbold mindjuju
16:36.39jbotACTION wallops mindjuju with a flip-flop
16:36.41mgearysee?
16:36.43macnewboldhehe
16:36.45macnewboldthat rocks
16:36.53macnewboldat least it didn't call it a thong
16:36.54mindjujuthere is also the aptly named macattack
16:36.56bwelkerhow the heck did that happen?
16:37.00mindjujujust like there is a bdhit and a dhit
16:37.04mgearybwelker, like this:
16:37.07mindjujuand there is even a jsmith attack
16:37.09bwelker~macattack macnewbold
16:37.10jbotACTION uses jumper cables to stun macnewbold!
16:37.26mindjujucan't recall the jsmith invoke though
16:37.31mindjuju~jattack macnewbold
16:37.31jbotACTION starts to capture macnewbold VOIP packets and post them to the web
16:37.41mindjujuthat's it
16:37.42mgearyjbot: bwelker $1 is <action> asks $1 lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
16:37.43jbotmgeary: okay
16:37.43bwelkeryay
16:37.44mindjujuall VOIP related
16:37.48mgeary~bwelker mindjuju
16:37.49jbotACTION asks mindjuju lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
16:37.57mgeary~bwelker
16:37.58jbotbwelker is probably statistically significant, or thinks he's funny, or the best at everything
16:38.00mgearysee?
16:38.08mgearybut it's obnoxious
16:38.50bwelkerbut what i wanted to do was add "is an rlart addict" to macs description
16:38.56bwelkerbut it broke on "rlart"
16:39.00mgearyexactly
16:39.04mgearybecause you did:
16:39.09mgeary~macnewbold (something else)
16:39.10jbotACTION wallops (something else) with a flip-flop
16:39.16bwelkerahhh
16:39.18bwelkeri gotcha
16:39.19mgearythat's why it's obnoxious
16:39.27bwelkeri see now
16:40.04bwelkerso now when someone tries to add something awesome to me, like: bwelker is the coolest cat ev0r, it will break
16:41.18bwelker~peeing your pants is the coolest
16:41.18jbotbwelker: okay
16:41.26bwelkerwait
16:41.34bwelkerthats not recursive
16:46.08mgearyjbot: bwelker is also a fast learner
16:46.09jbotACTION asks is also a fast learner lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
16:46.13mgearysee?
16:46.30bwelkeryup, i do
16:46.51bwelkerbecause i am is also a fast learner lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
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16:48.16bwelkerjbot forget bwelker
16:48.16jbotbwelker: i forgot bwelker
16:48.26bwelker~bwelker mgeary
16:48.27jbotACTION asks mgeary lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
16:48.31bwelkerdangit
16:48.36bwelker~literal bwerlker
16:48.44bwelker~literal bwelker
16:49.04bwelkeroh pooh, i'm not statistically significant anymore   :(
16:49.34mindjuju~bwelker
16:49.58mindjujubwelker -- hang on quick sec
16:50.55bwelkeri got the image of those old cartoons, where they would open the hatch and start throwing the most random things out the back of whatever they were working on
16:51.00mindjuju~bwelker
16:51.01jboti heard bwelker is statistically significant, or thinks he's funny, or the best at everything
16:51.06mindjujuthere you go
16:51.15bwelker~bwelker mindjuju
16:51.16jbotACTION asks mindjuju lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
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17:07.56Utah_Dav1http://www.avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks
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17:09.27SunSparcUtah_Dave: take that benchmark test with a grain or two of salt.
17:10.01Utah_DaveI take all benchmarks and statistics with a grain of salt
17:10.19Utah_Davebut my experience has been similar to those benchmarks
17:11.57bwelkeri already knew Cake was slow
17:12.09bwelkerbut it's so easy that i don't mind quite so much
17:12.23mgearyhrm
17:12.34mgearyi should re-create that page in my framework and give it a test :)
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17:14.02mgearybut i will say that speed is one of the least significant issues in a web app equation, since it's almost the easiest to address by adding more hardware
17:14.23mgearyease of maintenance & development go a long way towards trumping speed
17:16.05mindjujuthx for posting the link Utah_Dav1 , that email the mailing list got wasn't formated and wasn't going to look for the quoted page until lunch
17:16.11mindjujumade it easier to see the results
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17:31.32wpsnine days 'til iPhone!!
17:32.36orsonjbut I can get a data plan for $30/month rather than $70
17:34.41mindjujubwelker - check this out
17:34.43mindjujuhttp://live.yahoo.com/mindjuju
17:34.53mindjujuhope it plays well
17:38.16mgearydoes anyone know if the dig command is available by default on the windows command line?
17:38.56mindjujui'm not sure of the differences but nslookup is
17:39.11mindjujui *think* very similar or possibly same
17:40.00fungusdig is *not* available on windows
17:40.05mgearypity
17:40.15fungusnslookup will give limited details compared to dig
17:40.19fungusbut is still useful
17:40.28mindjujuah, wasn't sure
17:40.40bwelkerthat's a good song
17:40.46mindjujudude, freakin' love this song
17:40.59mindjujuand he's got that violinist right there and mixin' it fresh
17:41.06mindjujuis it coming through well?
17:41.06bwelkeroh snap
17:41.22bwelkerkinda fuzzy and distorted a bit, but goode enough i can tell what it is
17:41.30mgearyfungus: got a minute to help with something?
17:41.31bwelkerchoppy
17:41.32mindjujuwhat about audio?
17:41.37bwelkerit's alright
17:41.41fungusmgeary: sure
17:41.51mgearytaking it to pm
17:42.05mindjujuthe vid is playing over the projector (computer 1) and my desktop (computer 2) has the webcam
17:42.25bwelkercrazy
17:42.26mindjujuand of course, flash drops it to 10 fps
17:42.43bwelkerthe audio is soft and fuzzy, but not choppy like the vid
17:42.58bwelkerthat's cool though
17:43.05mindjuju:)
17:43.40mindjujuth-th-th- That's all folks!
17:48.10brastowps, one of the guys i work with says that he knows someone (I forgot the name) that has been CTO at Omniture for a few years, but the person he knows is not Jo(h)n Pestana.  I told him I knew Jo(h)n Pestana, who I thought was CTO, but the person my co-worker knows isn't the same guy... what position does/did Jo(h)n hold?
17:48.32wpsjohn retired recently
17:48.53brastoWas he CTO when he was there?
17:49.01wpsnot sure
18:04.31SunSparchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbaA68jYYek
18:06.06mindjujuSunSparc - rofl
18:06.12SunSparc:)
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18:10.52timinatorback..... sheesh
18:11.48SunSparcit's about time!
18:12.08SunSparcWe talked about you behind your back for quite a while and then finally gave up.
18:14.50mgearyyeah, too boooooring
18:23.22timinatorLOL
18:23.28timinatorI'd agree, too boring
18:28.04mindjujuorsonj - any good?
18:29.15timinatorI've never been big on screen scraping, but I have a project that requires it. Anyone have a quick link for it so that I don't reinvent the wheel?
18:29.33mgeary"link for it" ?
18:29.45mgearywhat exactly do you need to scrape?
18:30.34timinatorspokaneforest.com/freight
18:30.37mindjujulike OCR type stuff, or like pulling the code from another web page, service, etc
18:30.41timinatoramong others
18:30.48mgearyhow complex?
18:30.49orsonjworks pretty well, but I did a slight variation that works a bit better
18:30.52orsonjhttp://www.cartala.com/diy.php
18:31.03mgearyi mean, do you just need to pull the source HTML and run a regex on it?
18:31.25mgearythere are cool cli tools like twill and mechanize that you can write standalone scripts with
18:31.31orsonjI didn't find a normal camera mount and just went with the bolt and wingnut variation
18:31.55timinatorjust pull the html and regex
18:32.00timinatorit's no big deal
18:32.07orsonjI still need to post my pictures for how I put it together.
18:32.07mgearycurl++
18:32.13timinatorwas just wondering if there's something simpler
18:32.32mindjujutiminator - if i understand you correctly, cole_joplin did that for TopTenReviews , not sure how dexterthedragon fit in to TTR, but he may have written some bots too
18:32.36timinatorya, curl++ fo sho
18:33.03mgearyhttp://dpaste.com/60405/
18:33.06timinatorI'll check it
18:33.08mgearythat's pretty simple
18:33.17timinatorthx mgeary
18:33.28mgearyyep
18:46.37mgearyhey, what's a PTR record?
18:46.46mgearycan you just do dig <domain> ptr?
18:53.41SunSparchttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTR_Record#PTR
18:54.30mgearyso it's a reverse DNS entry. ok
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19:22.35guizzhi
19:22.36guizzhow can sessions work in subdomains that are in other server ? ini_set("session.cookie_domain", ".mydomain.com"); didnt work.
19:23.15mgearythat's problematic, afaik. You may have store your session data in a database instead of on the server
19:23.31guizzhmmm
19:24.14mgearyyour subdomain is on a different physical server?
19:24.55guizzyes, different.
19:25.09mgearywell, the session data is stored in a tmp directory on the webserver
19:25.23mgearyso there'd be no real way to have that work across the network
19:25.29mgearyyou'd have to use a centralized datasource
19:25.39guizzoh yes, for sure.
19:25.47guizzi didnt realized it
19:26.23mgearysomething of a pain, i'm afraid
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20:37.00mgearyahaahahahah
20:37.40SunSparc:)
20:37.42SunSparcViel spas
20:39.14SunSparc_psychic_: any money in that thing?
20:39.24SunSparcmgeary: does not seem to be missing it
20:39.41SunSparcSweet
20:40.07SunSparcThat'll buy a slice of bread
20:41.24SunSparcheh
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21:08.22mindjujucool! - http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/07/02/were-official/
21:08.37mindjujuanybody want my autograph?  i helped
21:09.33wpsmootools++
21:10.01wpsif anyone is looking for a js library, I just switched from scriptaculous to mootools
21:10.05wpsand would recommend it
21:10.38orsonjI like mootools
21:11.01mindjujustill in the market as i'm reading the docs on jquery
21:11.06wpsI just built a slick FAQ with their accordion plugin
21:11.49mgearywe built this with mootools: http://www.dng.com/
21:12.00mgeary(annoying skip intro warning)
21:13.38mindjujumgeary, that looks really cool
21:14.11mindjujuand who doesn't like midget v Giant fighting?
21:14.36wpsmidgets scare the crap out of me
21:14.36mindjujuso mgeary, that video is slick
21:14.45mgearywell, we didn't do the video
21:14.47mgearywe did the site
21:15.38mindjujuoh, was just going to grovel and prostrate myself and see how it was done
21:15.53wpsprostrate
21:16.25wpsinteresting as I am working on a colonoscopy site
21:16.43wpsoh… prostrate :)
21:17.00SunSparcewww
21:17.14orsonjheh
21:24.38wpswhat's the best way to split an array in two? get it's count and then use array_slice?
21:25.24mgearyprobably
21:25.53Utah_Davemindjuju: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/certificate?participant=Mindjuju+the Great&state=post
21:26.35Utah_Davewait
21:26.47Utah_Davehttp://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/certificate?participant=Mindjuju+the+Great&state=post
21:27.16mindjujucool!
21:28.59wpswow… just got the bill for labor and delivery
21:29.06wps…from the hospital
21:29.14mgeary$5k?
21:29.20wps6.5
21:29.25mgearyyep
21:29.27SunSparcYikes
21:29.29_psychic_before insurance?
21:29.34wpsyes
21:29.38mgearyyeah
21:29.42wpsthat's the grand total
21:29.50mgearynotice how all individual plans have a $5k maternity deductable?
21:29.51wps(well… that doesn't include a thousand to the OB)
21:29.57mgearythere's a reason for that
21:30.14_psychic_and the epidural, prolly
21:30.29mgearyyeah, that's just the *hospital* bill
21:30.34dataw0lfmy mom makes so much money when she's on OB/GYN call
21:31.17mindjuju:)
21:31.17mgearymy first son was > $30k
21:31.33wpswhoa
21:31.47_psychic_adoption from a foreign country?
21:31.53mgearynope
21:32.14mgearyC-section with full anesthesia & extra docs, i suppose
21:32.18mgearymy wife has a heart condition
21:32.30SunSparcAnyone here using swfobject version 2?
21:32.39mgearywe have a bit
21:32.50SunSparcdo you like the move away from vo.addVariable?
21:32.52mgearyi'm not crazy about the newer method
21:32.55mgearyheh
21:33.28SunSparc:)
21:33.36SunSparcYeah, it is completely different
21:42.44mindjuju~charlie beandog
21:42.45jbotACTION cons beandog to go to Candy Mountain where he promptly removes beandog's kidney
21:42.58mindjuju:)
22:03.10timinator:)
22:03.18timinatorno insurance, paid in cash
22:03.27timinatordone deal
22:03.58timinatorwell, I guess that was just the hospital portion.... OB costs were more
22:04.00mgearymy $30k son was completely covered by my company's insurance. That was back in the boom days
22:04.11wpswow
22:04.14mgeary...as was my wife's $80k+ open-heart surgery
22:04.19mgearydidn't pay a dime out of my pocket
22:04.20mgeary:D
22:04.28timinatornot to mention that he eats and requires diapers and clothes
22:05.06timinatordang kids
22:05.15timinatorwhat insurance do you have mgeary?
22:05.29timinatoryou pay 4 figures per month for that??
22:05.37mgearywell, this was 6+ years ago, before i started my own company
22:05.45mgearythe company i was with before was self-insured
22:06.01mgearyand then they imploded
22:06.16timinatorhuh
22:06.59orsonjno wonders
22:08.06mgearyyeah
22:08.14SunSparchttp://bluesun7.com/jonathan/?p=113
22:10.07orsonjwould you mind telling me what is in the video. I didn't bring my headphones.
22:11.46SunSparcIt is basically Newt Gingrich calling Congress out for patronizing radical environmentalists.  He says we should drill locally for oil, build nuclear plants, and put more time and effort into alternate fuel research.
22:12.19orsonjnice, thanks.
22:12.23SunSparc:)
22:12.35orsonjgood ideas too.
22:13.31SunSparcI agree
22:15.06orsonjas well as energy sources, efficient use of it is also needed.
22:15.29SunSparcAgreed.
22:15.49SunSparc30mpg is ridiculous consider the technology we have available.
22:16.03mgearyanyone want to put money on whether Bush invades/bombs Iran before he leaves office?
22:16.09SunSparc100mpg should be standard
22:16.31SunSparcmgeary: I bet he doesn't
22:17.04mgearyi'm thinking it's looking more and more likely that he will
22:17.14orsonjmy car is >10 years old and it gets 34mpg. new cars ought to do better than that.
22:17.23wpsamen to that, orsonj
22:17.23SunSparcAnother question would be, do you think it would be good for us to do so?
22:17.30wpsI get 35 in my 1999 Accord
22:17.49mgearyoh heck yeah! I mean, look at all the good invading Iraq has done
22:17.54wpsI think that it's ridiculous that today's cars do not get 80 MPG
22:18.31SunSparcmy brother is installing an h2o booster in his car right now.
22:34.18timinatorif I want to ssh using a Mac Terminal, and use a different port, isn't the syntax: ssh <user>@<host_ip>:<port>
22:34.25mgearyno
22:34.31mgearyssh -p <port> user@host
22:34.58timinatork, thx
22:36.08fungusBTW that isn't Mac only.  That's all platforms that use OpenSSH
22:36.25fungus~hail OpenSSH
22:36.26jbotACTION bows down to OpenSSH and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
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22:53.41timinatorthx mgeary and fungus: just hadn't needed to do it before
23:03.43timinatorI'm out guys... late
23:33.39beandogmindjuju, lol thats great
23:33.41beandog~charlie
23:33.42jbotit has been said that charlie is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPONTneuaF4
23:33.45beandog~charlie mindjuju
23:33.46jbotACTION cons mindjuju to go to Candy Mountain where he promptly removes mindjuju's kidney
23:35.23beandogwere on a bridge, charlie!
23:39.16SunSparcWell, whadya know, there really is a Candy Mountain.
23:40.25SunSparcAlright, I'll go into the freaking Candy Cave.
23:57.44SunSparcOh yeah?  You missing a kidney?
23:58.36tierrano, but I'm missing an appendix
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