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01:19.52_iTimberI'm out.... later guys
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03:44.45DexterTheDragonwow downgrading to firefox 2 sucked almost as much as upgrading to firefox 3
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05:48.25wpswhere would one suggest starting looking if I am not getting any errors in the browser
05:48.50wpswhen I have an error in my script I am just getting a blank white page instead of the usual error code printed out
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14:55.48DexterTheDragonwps: apache log, php error log
14:56.07wpsthere errors are being written out there
14:56.22wpsby why wouldn't they be displayed in the browser as usual?
14:56.24tonedevfDexterTheDragon: i didn't take the plunge.... was ff3 a pantload?
14:56.45tonedevfwps has to do with error display configuration in php.ini
14:57.04wpswhat if I haven't changed anything in my ini?
14:57.07DexterTheDragontonedevf: http://dexterthedragon.com/2008/06/18/hello-firefox-3-goodbye-firefox-3/
14:57.14DexterTheDragonthere's my complaints with it
14:57.37DexterTheDragonmostly it's not too bad. I just don't feel like changing the way I surf the internets
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14:59.05DexterTheDragonwps: it's possible something in a php script is blocking errors form being sent
14:59.19wpsthat's exactly what I think is happening
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15:00.29wpsI just can't figure out why
15:02.18DexterTheDragoninitial guesses would be something like error_reporting(0); or ini_set('display_errors','Off'); somewhere
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15:08.07wpsweird
15:08.14wpsdisplay_errors is Off in my ini
15:08.19wpsI must be loosing my mind
15:08.44wpsI swear my server (which I have been using for four or five years) has displayed errors out to the browser
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15:18.39DexterTheDragonAnger is a privilege
15:19.52_psychic_And love is thrust upon you.
15:22.50wpsalright… I think I figured it all out
15:23.05wpsI wasn't seeing the errors, even if I set display errors to on in my script
15:23.11wpsso I was totally confused
15:23.23wpsbut I think that that was because I did not have a allowoverride on
15:23.35wpswhen I set display errors to on within my apache vhost, then it now works
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15:30.15mindjujunice
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15:35.47timinatorsup gents
15:36.00mindjujui thought you were iTimber
15:36.12mindjujuor Tim the Shrubber?
15:36.23mindjujumake, arrange and design shrubberies
15:36.53mindjujuoh wait, my bad, that's roger the shrubber
15:39.28_psychic_and tim the enchanter
15:39.37mindjujuyup
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16:46.34wpstip-o-the-day: don't put a return in a foreach loop if you want all the items in the array to get used
16:47.12SunSparchehe
16:47.23wps:)
16:47.33wpstook me 10 minutes to track that bug down
16:47.51SunSparcIt's always the small ones that take the longest.
16:51.01jsmithwps: That's one of my favorite things on a programming test... get the programmer to explain the difference between "return" and "continue"
16:52.32SunSparcor break
16:52.50jsmithYeah, exactly
16:55.52jsmithmindjuju: Absolutely!  You should *always* disagree with me, as I'm *always* wrong.  Except that means I'm wrong about being wrong, which means...
16:56.13mindjuju:)
16:57.49SunSparcNice topic.
17:06.22*** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Meeting tonight @7p PHP + Qcodo | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
17:15.03dataw0lfjsmith: my favorite is to write code with a bunch of gotos and have them rewrite it properly
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17:27.45beandoghmm
17:27.52beandogwhat would you guys recommend for viewing SVN changesets
17:27.59beandogviewvc or trac?  something else?
17:28.40_psychic_I like trac's setup
17:30.24beandogit can handle multiple SVN repos as well, can't it?
17:31.33_psychic_not well
17:31.40_psychic_been looking for a solution there
17:31.56_psychic_I really like trac's single project setup, but I really, really need a multiproject solution
17:36.39beandogyah
17:36.44beandogtheres that one thing I heard about the other day, what is it
17:36.52_psychic_redmine
17:36.55beandogyah
17:36.56_psychic_done in rails
17:36.59beandogyah
17:37.03beandogdont wanna bother
17:37.17beandogI think Ill just go with viewvc
17:37.29beandogIm starting to remember it being a little tedious turning off all the stuff in trac I dont want
17:37.48_psychic_especially on a project by project basis :/
17:40.26jsmithviewvc isn't the prettiest, but it works
17:40.44SunSparcA customer told me about this the other day:  http://unfuddle.com/
17:40.49SunSparcI have not tried it out yet though.
17:42.25jsmithUgh... only two people can have logins on the "free" plan
17:48.05josephscotteveryone looking forward to the qcodo meeting tonight?
17:48.28wpsI'm looking forward to two week paternity leave
17:49.32josephscottthat's good too :-)
17:50.15_psychic_ugh that's exhausting
17:50.23_psychic_it's exciting but draining
17:53.52_psychic_SunSparc: have the wifey start her day with an hour on the trampoline.
17:54.15SunSparcHehe, yeah, we actually considered that.
17:54.27SunSparcMaybe I will put her on it tonight.
17:54.34wpsSunSparc: you moments away too?
17:54.37wpstoday is our due date
17:55.25SunSparcwps: Actually, our due date is still 3 weeks away, but she is ready now and the baby is plenty big.  We usually have 10 pounders so 3 weeks early is plenty fine for us.
17:55.48SunSparcbeandog: They are naturally good at that.
17:55.49wpsyeah… we were ready 3 weeks ago as well
17:56.02beandogSunSparc, I cant do it all on my own
17:56.03SunSparcThe last month is the hardest
17:56.13SunSparcbeandog: But you can sure try.  :)
17:56.19beandogheh
17:57.22beandog_psychic_, whose changing them right now?
17:57.29SunSparclol
17:57.44beandog:)
18:00.19beandogwhy dont monitors have composite / component inputs?
18:00.26beandogI wanna play on my Gamecube at work, dangit.
18:01.15_psychic_what game?
18:03.16beandoguh
18:03.35beandogbatman begins comes to mind
18:03.41SunSparcbeandog: My Dell monitor at home has those connections.
18:03.56beandogSunSparc, really?  what model do you have
18:04.06beandogId love one of those
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18:05.44beandogoh n/m
18:05.50beandogI found some on newegg
18:05.51beandogcool
18:06.59beandogall my wildest dreams are coming true
18:07.08SunSparc:)
18:11.42SunSparcAh, here it is:  Dell UltraSharp 2005FP WideFlat Panel w/Height AdjustableStand, 20.0 Inch VIS
18:12.44SunSparcGreat monitor.  Same LCD as the Apple monitor of the same size.
18:12.51SunSparcWhich is why I got it.
18:13.12SunSparcNot sure if they still sell it though.
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18:41.52mindjujusad, but funny - http://i29.tinypic.com/1z1tylf.jpg
18:42.02mindjujuinterestingly enough, i think that's from Utah
18:42.15mindjujui remember seeing signs like that for drapersingles.com, sandysingles.com, etc
18:44.20tierraSubversion 1.5 released today
18:44.34DexterTheDragonooooooooooooooo
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18:55.12timinatorthat's terrible mindjuju
18:55.17timinatorin a sick, funny way
18:56.13mindjuju:)
18:57.53timinatorwouldn't be funny if I were burying my wife...... I'd probably hunt them down just out of spite
18:59.16timinatora little DDOS attack from the front, while I come in the back door w/ a baseball bat
18:59.18timinator:)
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19:37.55beandogahh
19:37.59beandogemigration market++
19:38.48beandogmindjuju, thats great
19:39.00mindjujusup beandog
19:39.13beandogpiccie ^^
19:54.41_psychic_GRRR
19:54.53SunSparcARGH?
19:54.54_psychic_If they approve the new FISA bill, I'm moving to Canada.
19:55.12SunSparc?
19:55.21SunSparcI have not heard of it.  What is it?
19:56.07_psychic_Uncle george gets to spy on you, and the evil telecoms who help him get retroactive immunity for breaking the law.
19:57.09SunSparcSounds like fun
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20:04.12beandog_psychic_, yah but in Canada the telecom basically has QoS for the entire interwebs.
20:04.51beandogbesides, I'm more worried about the gov't tracking me with my cell phone than listening into my calls.
20:06.58beandogwhich, Im sure they do anyway.
20:16.56beandogits red vs blue!
20:21.09mindjujui love the accuracy of this article - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4168112.ece
20:21.12mindjujusad too
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20:24.19beandogmindjuju, you ever play travian.us
20:24.33mindjujunope, any good?
20:24.38beandogs'fun
20:25.41mindjujulooks cool
20:30.14SunSparchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg7qenzhnZ0
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23:13.16CGI399~lart timinator
23:13.16jbotgets a hotmal account and SPAMs timinator
23:13.54fungus~lart CGI399
23:13.54jbotchanges CGI399's permissions to 0777 and tells the world
23:14.07timinator~flip CGI399
23:14.07jbotACTION gives CGI399 the .|.. ..|.
23:14.28CGI399fungus, you going tonight to the meet?
23:14.34fungusyup
23:14.36CGI399awesome
23:14.41CGI399i so need applebees tonight
23:14.50fungusyeah, me too.
23:14.57CGI399not just from not having had lunch today, but i could use the stress relief
23:15.11fungustotally.  
23:15.25CGI399oh, and I found my wireless router, so we should be all good today
23:15.51funguslol, I still have mine in my truck.
23:18.26CGI399nope, people still in office
23:18.54CGI399you know the cool thing about the ubuntu server, it's got a steep learning curve, but once you learn how to do something, getting functionality out of it is fast and simple
23:20.11DexterTheDragonthat's the awesomeness of linux
23:20.24CGI399yup
23:21.50DexterTheDragonactually I think its the awesomeness of open source..... meh
23:23.03CGI399this is scary - http://freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571
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