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00:21.26brasto~seen mgeary
00:21.28jbotmgeary <n=mgeary@166.70.44.49> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 5d 9h 6m 43s ago, saying: 'http://imvotingrepublican.com/ <-- a bit harsh and/or over-the-top at times, but full of stinging reminders of the joys of the last 8 years'.
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00:23.22brasto~wiki html entities
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00:27.04brasto~&#x2; is the hexadecimal HTML entity representation for [space].
00:27.04jbotokay, brasto
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00:27.25brasto's got the wrong name
00:27.29brastodoh!
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12:38.47jsmithHappiness was a horse
12:43.57SunSparc:)
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14:19.21mindjujufirefox 3 comes out in 3 hrs
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14:46.12mindjujuhappiness is a warm gun, bang bang shoot shoot
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14:56.46SunSparcmindjuju: any particular model of warm gun?
14:57.00mindjujui don't think they say in the song
14:59.24jsmithmindjuju: A double-barrel 20-gauge with a modified choke (and an empty case of clay pigeons)
14:59.42mindjujudo they say that in the song?
14:59.49mindjujui need to listen to it again
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15:10.21jsmithmindjuju: No, I'm just pulling your chain
15:10.43SunSparcmindjuju has a chain?
15:11.05mindjujuyeah, galvanized steel chain
15:11.25SunSparc:)
15:11.35SunSparc<PROTECTED>
15:22.28jsmithchain gun, anyone?
15:22.39mindjujunice
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16:53.21wpsthey appear to be DOS'd
16:53.28wpsthat's what you get for asking everyone to visit your website at the same time
16:53.34mindjujuyup
16:54.42mindjujusurely though, with all the people signed up to download ff3, you'd think they'd freakin have monster servers with enormous pipe
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17:40.24djcodeftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/
17:43.39wpsyikes!
17:43.41wpsan .exe
17:44.22wpshere, djcode: http://www.ubuntu.com/
17:46.56djcodeI have no reason to use linux, in fact I kinda have to use windoze for various reasons, although I hope to get a mac sooner than later
17:47.05djcodeif linux supported all my audio apps I would probably use it :)
17:47.36wpsI would recommend a Mac
18:08.56wpsI need to convert :, /, &, ?, and spaces into html entities
18:09.10wpshtmlentities() and htmlspecialchars() don't seem to be covering everything
18:13.30DexterTheDragonthat cause besides the & none of those characters have html entities to be converted into
18:17.04wpsfound what I want
18:17.06wpsurlencode()
18:17.30SunSparc_FF3 = Still /.'d
18:18.03wpsha ha ha
18:18.11tonedevfwhich audio apps, djcode?
18:18.16wpstheir not going to set their record because their servers can't hack it
18:18.31wpss/their/they're/
18:19.55unumsomeone in #utah gave a link to the mozilla site that is working
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18:24.09mindjujufinally, the firefox site comes up -- http://www.spreadfirefox.com/
18:25.18tonedevfdid you all download Opera 9.5?  It came out in the last few weeks.
18:27.15herlomindjuju: its up and down
18:27.30mindjujui just got in, but the link is bad
18:27.42herloits not bad
18:27.43mindjujuit says ff3, but it gave me ff2.0.0.14
18:27.52herlojust times out still
18:27.58herloI think they're taking it live in real time
18:34.48funguswow, FF3 looks awesome on a Mac.
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18:36.01mindjujusup beandog
18:36.09beandogmindjuju, yo
18:36.38beandoghttp://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Silverhawks-Season-1-Volume-1/9861
18:36.42mindjujubeandog - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLwUwz9BdC4
18:37.13beandogman, is there some kind of gui for rsync
18:37.16beandogkonqueror fails.
18:37.33beandogmindjuju, okay, that is gross.
18:37.56mindjujuheh
18:41.02DexterTheDragonftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/
18:41.12DexterTheDragonftp seems to still be working
18:45.56herlo3.0 is on there website
18:47.44mindjujubeandog - http://www.divinecaroline.com/ext/article_images2/kitty/1.html
18:54.52beandogmindjuju, you are *banned* from the urlinator.
18:55.08mindjujui thought some of those were funny
18:55.12beandog:)
18:57.52beandogmindjuju, http://spaceparanoids.org/img/fail-math-woman.jpg
18:59.47mindjujunice
19:00.24beandogits totally sexist, but funny
19:00.37beandogjust sexy
19:05.44herlodsf
19:05.54herlow00t!
19:06.31beandogheya herlo
19:06.38beandogso you still need $600?
19:10.03herlobeandog: hi, sure
19:10.08herlobeandog: you got it?
19:10.55tierraI need $600 too, kthxbye
19:11.49herloI asked first!
19:12.15beandogherlo, Im saving up for a Wii
19:12.27herlobeandog: I have a Wii
19:12.29beandogI have ...
19:12.29DexterTheDragonherlo: ooooo beat out by a Wii
19:12.37beandog$6 so far
19:12.39beandogwoots
19:12.43herlowanna buy it for $600?
19:12.47beandoglol
19:12.58beandogis it a *magical* wii?
19:13.01herlobeandog: good job
19:13.15DexterTheDragonaren't all Wii's magical?
19:13.17herlobeandog: of course, it has many good powers
19:13.21herlo:)
19:13.42herlothe wiimotes work without cords, isn't that magic?
19:14.23beandogI want a Wii that will summon unicorns to do my bidding.
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19:15.09timinatorhey guys
19:15.09DexterTheDragonbut Charlie.....
19:16.38beandog:)
19:16.42_psychic_DexterTheDragon: lol
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19:32.09timinatoris there any tool, similar to alexa.com, that's a bit more accurate?
19:32.23DexterTheDragonapache logs
19:32.26timinatorsomething that goes off DNS queries or something
19:32.35timinatorno, for someone else's site
19:32.39timinatorI'm trying to buy
19:33.59timinatorrather, it's just a domain
19:34.18timinatorI'm trying to find out how much traffic it gets at the present
19:35.02timinatorto assess the current value
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19:49.12herlo~lart DexterTheDragon
19:49.12jbotinstalls a bad bootloader on DexterTheDragon and turns DexterTheDragon into a brick
19:51.00tierratiminator: http://www.compete.com/
19:53.37herlolol :)
19:54.49timinatorTY tierra
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20:13.46thebigdogdude tierra ty for the link that is a great tool
20:13.57tierranp
20:23.35SunSparc_I was able to download FF3
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20:27.49bwelkercake question if anybody can help
20:28.22orsonjshoot
20:28.27wpsbang
20:29.14bwelkerlol
20:29.44bwelkerso i have two tables, A has a zipcode, B has a zip_start and zip_end
20:29.55bwelkerI want to build a relationship for them?
20:30.00bwelker(sansn ?)
20:30.07bwelkerhow might i do that in cake
20:30.44bwelkerso basically A belongsTo B and B hasMany A
20:31.04bwelkerbut on a strange condition, not just foreign key type stuff
20:31.51bwelkerA.zipcode BETWEEN B.zip_start AND B.zip_end
20:32.27bwelkerany suggestions on how to get those to play well in cake?
20:33.58bwelkeri've already tried setting the conditions portion of the hasMany and belongsTo array, with no luck, as well as the findQuery portion, again, with no luck
20:35.42orsonjbeats me
20:36.30bwelkeri know, beats me, too
20:36.35bwelkerit's an odd sort of problem
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21:06.51mindjujuwhat's the longest redemption period on an expired domain?
21:07.10mindjujuit's been 60+ days since it expired, and it still isn't available
21:08.49unumyou're not trying to steal one of mine are you :)
21:09.23mindjujuunum.com
21:09.26mindjujuyup, that's the one
21:10.05bwelkerdangit, i was going to grab that one
21:10.29wpsI hate dashes in filenames
21:10.41unumactually some insuraunce company has it, they have unum.org as well
21:10.59unummy dad has something through them
21:13.54DexterTheDragonthats where he got his nick. saw it on ones of his dads insurance forms
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21:34.51synicwhatever song is on ravetrax now is pretty awesome.
21:35.50dataw0lfby "awesome", you mean, what, "gay", right?
21:36.03beandogheh
21:36.09beandogwhat would we do without dataw0lf
21:36.31synicdataw0lf: of course.
21:37.14dataw0lfalright, just making sure
21:38.09_psychic_I wish our press had the guts to ask the question this briton did http://movies.crooksandliars.com/SKYNews-Bush-Slander.mov
21:38.39beandogI hate it when I get grape jelly on my mouse.
21:40.37beandogmindjuju, thanks, man
21:40.39beandogI knew you cared
21:40.40beandogdeep down
21:40.54beandogthat reminds me of a song.
21:42.01beandogwhich I can't find
21:43.50thebigdogoh no...new wave
21:43.54mindjujuk, this is awesome - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKnF26qFFM
21:44.04mindjujuhuge nerf battle in corporate environ
21:44.33SunSparcwps: Who was the 275th?
21:44.56wpsBrent at Interform Group
21:46.43dataw0lf_psychic_: it amuses me that Bush doesn't seem to understand the Constitution whatsoever.
21:47.12_psychic_Well it held up in district and appellate court!!
21:47.26_psychic_It's amusing and abysmally depressing all at once.
21:47.31dataw0lfIndeed.
21:47.51_psychic_I love the way the reporter nailed him on retarded points
21:48.01_psychic_at least more so than the spineless variety round these here parts
21:48.54beandogdataw0lf, agreed
21:49.58dataw0lfhey, Helen Thomas was all over it.
21:50.40dataw0lfdoesn't help though when the Bush administration runs the White House press corps like a Nazi concentration camp.  Not excusing the reporters, by any means, but it's certainly thinly veiled fascism.
21:52.27mindjujuyup, happens all the time when a government is at war
21:52.36_psychic_Yeah. Props to helen, though.
21:53.02DexterTheDragonor when a government is moving to dictatorship
21:53.13_psychic_fwiw, Jon Stewarts Baraknaphobia bit was pretty funny too :)
21:53.16SunSparcSocialist Dictatorship
21:53.47mindjujuexcept that if we are moving to a dictatorship, then this year's election won't happen
21:54.04mindjujuand if it does and the winner put in office, then not really a dictatorship
21:54.46orsonjman, cake has a lot of code
21:55.06_psychic_orsonj: lots of test cases :)
21:55.36dataw0lfI'm not saying we're moving into a dictatorship;  however, the Bush administration has done more harm to this country, including the Constitution, than probably any other administration before it.
21:56.10_psychic_at least we got kinda habeas corpus back.
21:56.14dataw0lfBesides all this, their huge veil of secrecy, coupled with their tight control of reporting on their activities, certainly are the tell-tale signs of fascism.
21:56.20mindjujuthat's debatable
21:56.35dataw0lf_psychic_: Kind of.
21:56.45_psychic_that's what I said. :)
21:56.56dataw0lfI know, I was agreeing.
21:57.02mindjujulooking over the war-time presidents shows that similar actions were taken then too, not exclusive to bush
21:57.54mindjujubrb
21:57.57dataw0lfhabeas corpus has only been suspended (previously) due to domestic disturbances.
21:58.04dataw0lfRiots, significant threats to states.
21:58.08dataw0lfSo you're being ridiculous.
21:58.36dataw0lfAlso, previously, no citizen could be declared an unlawful combatant, as is the case now
21:58.37mindjujuoh come now
21:58.44mindjujuwhat about April 27, 1861?
21:58.50mindjujuPres Lincoln
21:58.50dataw0lfSee the November 13th, 2001 Presidential Military Order
21:58.56dataw0lfmindjuju: there were riots across the country.
21:58.57dataw0lfHuge riots.
21:59.05mindjujuwar time pres...
21:59.38dataw0lfRead about the Civil War and tell me where the differences are.  There are numerous examples.
22:02.39wpsmember 276 is a girl
22:02.45dataw0lfBesides, comparing the Civil War (or even WW2) to the "War on Terror", is ridiculous and laughable.  The "War on Terror" is a phantasmal, ephemeral, skeleton key for locking your freedoms away with the threat of a vague, undefinable enemy.
22:02.49dataw0lfWait
22:02.49wpsbut she's a recruiter, so that doesn't count
22:02.51dataw0lfgirl?
22:02.52dataw0lfoh.
22:03.08dataw0lfdarn it, wps.
22:03.15dataw0lfat least you know how to make me lose track of what I'm saying.
22:03.34wpsah… member 275 signed up to post a job… php programming for minimum wage
22:03.41dataw0lfew.
22:03.50_psychic_I'll have to remember that. If I feel like you're getting the upper hand in an argument, I'll have wps say "girl."
22:04.23dataw0lfwhere was I... where was I...
22:04.28mindjujudataw0lf, sure there are differences between war on terror and civil war, but there are simlilarities too
22:04.34beandogdataw0lf, undefined war on terror
22:04.38dataw0lfmindjuju: What similarities?
22:04.48mindjujuuhhh... war?
22:04.54dataw0lf"duur, they happened in the United States, durrr"
22:05.15mindjujuyou make it sound like this hasn't happened before.
22:05.20dataw0lfWell, if you want to take the "War" in "War on Terror", and say "HEY, there's a WAR in 'Civil War' too!"
22:05.24mindjujuwhat about the propaganda during ww2 and FDR?
22:05.26dataw0lfI suppose I can't stop you.
22:05.49wpsskin
22:06.33dataw0lfmindjuju: The 'propaganda' ? How does that violate the Constitution?
22:06.42mindjujuwell, i can see your fired up on this, so i'll back off, but as I say, historically during war periods, presidents have and do take additional powers
22:07.06mindjujuoh, that was a response to your statement about country push to fascism
22:08.05dataw0lfSo you support classifying American citizens suspected as terrorism as enemy combatants and denying them habeas corpus?
22:08.12dataw0lfs/as/of
22:10.10mindjujuthat's not what i'm saying at all, i'm not saying Bush is right, i'm not saying he's wrong
22:10.15mindjujui'm just saying he's not the first
22:10.19mindjujuand he's not the last
22:12.07dataw0lfWhatever.  History has judged Lincoln and Roosevelt.  It'll certainly judge Bush.  We'll see how that turns out for him.
22:13.06dataw0lfI had a republican tell me once after I said something similar "Well liberals are always them guys who are writing them books"
22:13.12dataw0lfI nearly died laughing.
22:13.19dataw0lfDang liberals.  Always reading and writing.
22:13.35dataw0lfThey could condense it all into a 30 minute show on TV!
22:17.11SunSparcPolitics these days seems to just be one big circus.
22:17.21SunSparcPerhaps it has always been like that.
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23:38.14dataw0lfYENN IS A MAN
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23:42.59tierraheh
23:43.38dataw0lf>_>
23:43.45dataw0lf<_<
23:59.12timinatorI'm out.... later guys

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