| 00:32.59 | PoeticIntensity | you around dataw0lf ? |
| 00:33.14 | PoeticIntensity | I'm dipping my toes into python, and .... it's quite confusing. |
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| 00:44.00 | tierra | that's why you need to just dive in |
| 00:44.09 | tierra | heh |
| 00:51.36 | tonedevf | it's interesting to see so much chatter about python in #uphpu |
| 00:51.50 | tonedevf | is that mostly because of Django? |
| 00:53.52 | PoeticIntensity | I just want to learn Python. |
| 00:54.26 | PoeticIntensity | I've been using PHP for 6 years... |
| 00:54.26 | PoeticIntensity | time to learn a new language. |
| 00:57.49 | tonedevf | so you actively use python for something or just learned for fun? |
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| 01:58.54 | herlo | really cool samba presentation about Samba being streamed at http://stream.utos.org |
| 02:32.47 | tonedevf | thanks, herlo ; ) |
| 02:40.09 | tonedevf | i wish i had his slides to follow along with |
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| 14:54.50 | timinator | sup guys |
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| 15:01.17 | mindjuju | sup timinator |
| 15:01.37 | timinator | doing a little old school this AM |
| 15:03.13 | tonedevf | which comes first, timinator... mind on your money or your money on your mind? |
| 15:03.51 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:04.32 | timinator | have you heard the version by Rehab?!?! |
| 15:04.37 | timinator | they make it country |
| 15:04.40 | timinator | very funny |
| 15:05.13 | tonedevf | i haven't... sounds awesome though |
| 15:05.30 | tonedevf | it's a universal message though... i think we can all relate |
| 15:12.56 | tonedevf | Ha ha : D |
| 15:16.14 | tonedevf | good one |
| 15:18.31 | timinator | lol |
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| 15:35.59 | SunSparc | Yikes! |
| 15:38.08 | SunSparc | http://puppydogweb.com/gallery/lhasaapsos/lhasaapso_ball.jpg |
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| 15:52.06 | mindjuju | we actually got a good deal on our dog |
| 15:52.14 | orsonj | Today's User Friendly is good. http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080612 |
| 15:54.32 | SunSparc | Scam! |
| 16:00.25 | mindjuju | finally, the Stradivarius of our profession - http://gizmodo.com/5015730/emperor-workstation-belongs-in-the-death-star-my-office |
| 16:00.34 | mindjuju | oh yes, it will be mine |
| 16:03.50 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: nice |
| 16:08.50 | mindjuju | a person could do great things in a setup like that |
| 16:08.50 | SunSparc | If only I could get CoD4 to use three monitors... |
| 16:08.54 | SunSparc | Indeed |
| 16:13.17 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: when's the next geek lunch supposed to be? |
| 16:27.20 | mindjuju | @DexterTheDragon - sorry about delay in response, stepped out for a sec, good question about the geek lunch |
| 16:27.46 | mindjuju | if all things were equal, traditionally, the geek lunch would have been this past friday |
| 16:28.07 | mindjuju | however, long story short, it didn't happen and I was thinking of doing it next friday |
| 16:28.29 | mindjuju | but in thinking about it today, i thought about our last one, the day after the UPHPU meet, and while it was awkward for some, it was ok for others |
| 16:28.59 | mindjuju | so then, in the end, i was thinking of putting it on the last friday of the month |
| 16:29.37 | mindjuju | i liked the last geek lunch with UTOS because we had the usual UPHPU members there, but were joined by several others including PERL, Python and other groups |
| 16:29.42 | mindjuju | and the utah bloggers |
| 16:29.47 | mindjuju | way good times |
| 16:29.54 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 16:30.03 | mindjuju | what do you think about last friday of the month? |
| 16:30.37 | DexterTheDragon | I think that should be fine |
| 16:30.44 | DexterTheDragon | was just trying to plan stuff out |
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| 17:36.52 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 17:36.53 | jbot | keeps mailing olds free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 17:42.42 | SunSparc | mindjuju: How do rock star's party? |
| 17:43.07 | SunSparc | Prostitutes, alchohol, and drugs? |
| 17:43.10 | dataw0lf | I don't think the answer is appropriate for the channel. |
| 17:43.22 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:43.25 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: You are probably right. |
| 17:43.47 | mindjuju | it's actually a soundbyte on this track i'm listening to |
| 17:43.57 | mindjuju | DJ Wicked Wes - Wicked Breaks 2k7 |
| 17:44.29 | mindjuju | what is it you always say about techno dataw0lf? |
| 17:44.35 | mindjuju | uns - uns - uns uns - |
| 17:44.38 | mindjuju | something like that |
| 17:45.09 | SunSparc | That is the sound my brothers always make when we think of techno. |
| 17:45.28 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:45.49 | mindjuju | techno is SOOOO much more than that |
| 17:46.05 | mindjuju | sometimes its uns uns digga uns uns uns |
| 17:46.16 | mindjuju | other times, its another beat |
| 17:46.20 | SunSparc | I know. I love the stuff. But stereotypically speaking. |
| 17:46.22 | SunSparc | hehe, right |
| 17:48.58 | dataw0lf | fightthesmears.com |
| 17:52.26 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: Nice. Good to see his side of the media bias. |
| 17:54.46 | dataw0lf | I think the GOP is going to have a rude awakening when their standard smear tactics don't work on good ole Obama. |
| 17:55.12 | dataw0lf | here's to hoping they attack Michelle more. *rubs hands* |
| 17:55.52 | SunSparc | Good entertainment eh/ |
| 17:55.53 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:56.22 | dataw0lf | Well it'll just help him. They attacked Hillary in 91 and boy did that backfire. |
| 17:56.42 | dataw0lf | you attack the wife, the husband stands up for her, BOOM humanizing. |
| 17:56.51 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 17:57.43 | SunSparc | It would be nice to see a candidate never say anything about the other candidates, but instead speak to how they think they can specifically help our nation. |
| 17:58.00 | SunSparc | And then stick to it. |
| 17:58.13 | dataw0lf | well the GOP uses proxy organizations to spread vicious rumors about their opponents. |
| 17:58.25 | SunSparc | Of course. |
| 17:58.38 | SunSparc | Cowards |
| 17:58.53 | dataw0lf | the democrats don't really do it as much, they just usually whimper about actual facts but don't do it aggressively or loudly enough |
| 17:59.09 | dataw0lf | Obama though... man, he just comes back with an awesome, inspiring speech. It's good stuff. |
| 17:59.35 | dataw0lf | Got something to say, mindjuju? |
| 17:59.59 | mindjuju | just thought this was funny --> (11:58:53 AM) dataw0lf: the democrats don't really do it as much, they just usually whimper about actual facts but don't do it aggressively or loudly enough |
| 18:00.24 | dataw0lf | the democrats are a bunch of cowards and wussies |
| 18:00.29 | dataw0lf | no arguing there. |
| 18:00.29 | _psychic_ | speech vs. action |
| 18:00.48 | _psychic_ | just was phrased funny |
| 18:01.02 | dataw0lf | Obama though. He just ignores lowbrow crap like that. |
| 18:01.15 | dataw0lf | Which is a good strategy, but he needs Jim Webb as his V.P. nomination |
| 18:01.22 | dataw0lf | cuz Webb ain't scared to be a bulldog, boy. |
| 18:01.40 | dataw0lf | any guy who nearly socked George Bush gets my vote. |
| 18:02.17 | mindjuju | any guy who allows a Che flag to be hung in his election offices doesn't get mine |
| 18:03.30 | dataw0lf | So you're more concerned about what he "allows" in his regional offices, rather than, y'know, his personal convictions? |
| 18:03.38 | dataw0lf | I assume you're going to vote McCain? |
| 18:03.46 | mindjuju | i'd rather not |
| 18:03.59 | mindjuju | i might just have to write myself in this year |
| 18:04.01 | mindjuju | or Yoda |
| 18:04.16 | SunSparc | Vote Mickey Mouse |
| 18:04.26 | SunSparc | He has come close in the past |
| 18:04.34 | dataw0lf | Because, you know, McCain and the whole cheating thing |
| 18:04.34 | _psychic_ | If it's close I vote obama |
| 18:04.40 | _psychic_ | if it's not, RP, probably |
| 18:04.49 | dataw0lf | you'd think that'd be more morally reprehensible to you |
| 18:04.56 | dataw0lf | than a flag with Che on it. |
| 18:05.09 | mindjuju | Mikey Mouse --> Disney --> Pixar --> Steve Jobs |
| 18:05.17 | mindjuju | so voiting mickey puts Jobs in the office |
| 18:05.17 | SunSparc | SWEET!! |
| 18:05.28 | SunSparc | That is my vote |
| 18:05.50 | _psychic_ | Mickey Mouse -> Mice -> Vertebrates -> Snakes -> Satan |
| 18:06.03 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:06.04 | dataw0lf | Jobs would be better than McCain |
| 18:06.04 | mindjuju | i can see it now, if Jobs gets into office, we'll all be running around in black turtlenecks |
| 18:06.15 | dataw0lf | but he's too liberal for my taste. |
| 18:07.41 | SunSparc | _psychic_: If we vote Satan in as president he will make sure we all get what we want. He is the ultimate Socialist. |
| 18:08.19 | dataw0lf | Satan? You mean Jesus (ultimate socialist). |
| 18:08.40 | dataw0lf | Although the comparison between socialism and Satan is amusing, if incorrect. |
| 18:08.44 | _psychic_ | ooh this is an interesting topic |
| 18:08.45 | SunSparc | No, Jesus is pro-choice. |
| 18:08.57 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 18:09.10 | _psychic_ | though it's pretty impossible to approach with people that don't share your views on Jesus and Satan |
| 18:09.20 | SunSparc | Good point |
| 18:09.54 | SunSparc | Working with different definitions = miscommunication. |
| 18:10.06 | _psychic_ | = flamewar |
| 18:10.09 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 18:10.25 | SunSparc | Just like our current election process. |
| 18:10.26 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:10.36 | dataw0lf | Well I probably agree on the same 'definitions'. I just disagree if they actually exist. |
| 18:10.47 | _psychic_ | Who cares about reality. |
| 18:10.49 | SunSparc | Oh, I KNOW definitions exist. |
| 18:11.44 | dataw0lf | oh don't go twisting my pronouns now |
| 18:11.49 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 18:11.59 | SunSparc | You got me |
| 18:18.22 | dataw0lf | fizz: you going to be playing tonight? it's clan night for me, you could rack up points to level up quickly if you partied up with us |
| 18:18.26 | dataw0lf | wrong channel, ugh |
| 18:18.42 | SunSparc | CoD4? |
| 18:18.47 | dataw0lf | yea. |
| 18:18.50 | SunSparc | Sweet |
| 18:19.20 | dataw0lf | single player is purty |
| 18:19.32 | SunSparc | Yeah, I am liking it. |
| 18:19.46 | SunSparc | I am amazed how far gaming and graphics have come in the past 20 years. |
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| 18:24.56 | dataw0lf | SunSparc: yea, it's pretty spectacular. |
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| 19:01.46 | mindjuju | curious - http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/06/santa-fe-whiner.html |
| 19:03.17 | dataw0lf | Amusing. |
| 19:04.07 | mindjuju | i'd love to test that out by putting them in a huge faraday cage , like the size of an airplane hanger, then put them into rooms where some have wifi and others don't |
| 19:04.23 | mindjuju | and see if they really have issues |
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| 19:06.08 | dataw0lf | well it's utter nonsense, applying science to it just fuels the flames. |
| 19:06.47 | gibba | what is? christianity? |
| 19:07.04 | mindjuju | @gibba - curious - http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/06/santa-fe-whiner.html |
| 19:07.39 | gibba | whatup mindjuju |
| 19:07.46 | mindjuju | sup |
| 19:09.03 | dataw0lf | gibba: You know me too well, sir. But nay. |
| 19:09.14 | dataw0lf | People being 'allergic' to wifi |
| 19:10.27 | gibba | yeah thats a retarded concept given the radio/tv signals we've always got passing through us. |
| 19:10.37 | SunSparc | Another way to say that is that they are allergic to certain frequencies of radio signals. |
| 19:10.42 | orsonj | I liked the userfriendly response: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080528 |
| 19:10.51 | dataw0lf | very, very weak signals |
| 19:11.23 | orsonj | (I'm allergic to stupid humans...) |
| 19:11.28 | SunSparc | orsonj: That is a good one |
| 19:11.38 | dataw0lf | hmmm. is there medication for that? |
| 19:11.51 | orsonj | heh, good idea |
| 19:11.53 | gibba | to even incinuate that a radio signal could induce some sort of anaphylactic reaction is ludacris. |
| 19:12.05 | orsonj | let's just give those allergic people some "medication" |
| 19:12.21 | gibba | maybe they need to at least re-word their complaint |
| 19:12.27 | SunSparc | gibba, well, it could be the some people are more sensitive to certain frequencies. |
| 19:13.07 | dataw0lf | gibba: *insinuate, *ludicrous |
| 19:13.27 | dataw0lf | SunSparc: How? |
| 19:13.56 | gibba | SunSparc: sensitivity is one thing ... but to claim 'allergy' is a very specific thing. its an anaphylactic reaction to a chemical or element. by its very definition you can't be allergic to radio waves of any kind. |
| 19:14.03 | gibba | nor any other energy |
| 19:14.05 | SunSparc | I don't know. I do not know enough about it either way. |
| 19:14.38 | SunSparc | gibba: Yeah, allergy is not a good word for them to use. |
| 19:14.46 | gibba | not to say that its impossible to have a bad reaction to energy (see: Hiroshima) but its the use of the word allergic that i'm being critical of. |
| 19:15.01 | SunSparc | Right |
| 19:15.11 | SunSparc | Then we agree. |
| 19:15.12 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:15.17 | gibba | :) |
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| 19:15.30 | SunSparc | Hey dog! |
| 19:16.15 | beandog | okay |
| 19:16.18 | beandog | you guys are gonna love this one |
| 19:16.29 | beandog | I just made a ringtone out of the charlie the unicorn candy mountain song |
| 19:16.46 | SunSparc | Sweet! |
| 19:18.33 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/downloads/music/candy_mountain.mp3 |
| 19:20.28 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 19:20.38 | SunSparc | Charlieeeee |
| 19:28.02 | beandog | were going to candy mountain! |
| 19:28.44 | SunSparc | It's a Magical Leopluradon Charlie! |
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| 20:08.15 | dataw0lf | the only /win 6 |
| 20:08.23 | dataw0lf | hm. what the heck. |
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| 21:04.04 | SunSparc | Throw some things at them. |
| 21:04.33 | SunSparc | I mean, us. |
| 21:05.06 | SunSparc | Uh, oh, if they are leaving your place, that means they are coming back here. I better get back to work... |
| 21:16.42 | mindjuju | i'm looking for a survey engine, anybody tried out / used a survey engine that they recommend |
| 21:16.57 | mindjuju | OSS or for purchase is fine |
| 21:17.02 | mindjuju | just want something solid |
| 21:20.15 | SunSparc | If I remember correctly, I have TAKEN surveys on http://www.surveymonkey.com/ and http://www.zoomerang.com/ |
| 21:20.41 | SunSparc | Are you looking for some code to put into your own app/website? |
| 21:20.48 | mindjuju | ah true that on those, but was looking for something i could put on my own site |
| 21:20.55 | mindjuju | well, this site i'm coding out |
| 21:20.55 | _psychic_ | wufoo |
| 21:21.14 | dataw0lf | wufoo is interesting. |
| 21:21.28 | dataw0lf | we use it fairly extensively. |
| 21:48.26 | thebigdog | anyone using an oss customer review software package they recommend? |
| 21:51.02 | _psychic_ | I saw this recently http://getsatisfaction.com/ |
| 21:54.40 | thebigdog | ty _psychic_ |
| 21:54.47 | _psychic_ | np |
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| 23:09.27 | Utah_Dave | Wasn't there someone in the group who is a SugarCRM employee/guru? |
| 23:21.24 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |
