IRC log for #uphpu on 20080603

00:01.30Utah_Davethanks, dataw0lf
00:01.41mgearyUtah_Dave: your wife had a baby today?!
00:02.55tierracongratz
00:03.59Utah_Daveactually, it was last Monday. on Memorial Day.  No barbecues for me!
00:04.25Utah_DaveThis is the first time in a week that I've been able to get online. Babies take so much time
00:04.45mgearywoot
00:22.05mgearyanyone still around?
00:23.52mgearyin ssh you can do this:
00:23.59mgearyssh -l user hostname.com
00:24.04mgearyas well as:
00:24.09mgearyssh user@hostname.com
00:24.23mgearythe -l is useful if the username actually *contains* the "@" char
00:24.38mgearydoes anyone know how to swing this with rsync?
00:24.57mgearyrsync only appears to support the user@host syntax
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00:50.13Utah_Davemgeary: sorry, I got called to dinner
00:50.23mgearynp, the folks at #utah helped
00:50.25mgearyi'm all set
00:52.19Utah_Davecool. What did you find out?
00:53.16mgearyrsync -e 'ssh -l user@name' /local remote.server.com:/remote
00:54.35Utah_Davecool
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04:26.45Utah_Dave!help
04:26.46DrPepperManhelp <cmnd> or help <plugin> .. see the !list command for a list of available plugins or see !available command for a list of plugins to be reloaded
04:26.55Utah_Dave!list
04:26.55DrPepperManloaded plugins: alarm alias all at autoreply backup birthday botsnack chanperm choice code core count debug dns fleet gcollect googletalk greeting grep hello hg idle ignore infoitem install irc jabber job karma lag links lists log mail mailexceptions markov misc nickcapture nickserv not ops pgp popcon quote relay reload remind rest reverse rss search seen shop simplelog size (+1)
04:27.15Utah_Dave!help googletalk
04:27.15DrPepperManplugin description: the google talk plugin make it possible to link to the googletalk servers .. google changes the JID of the bot so this plugin detects this and sets the bots JID .. for this to work the bot must be in a googletalk users buddieslist
04:27.18DrPepperManno commands available for permission [u'USER', u'OPER']
04:28.05Utah_Dave!more
04:28.05DrPepperMan<PROTECTED>
04:28.20Utah_Dave!wikipedia macnewbold
04:28.21DrPepperManno data found on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/Macnewbold
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13:55.13mindjuju~tunafart utah_dave
13:55.13jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to utah_dave, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
13:57.22Utah_Dave~poo mindjuju
13:57.23jbotACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at mindjuju
13:57.46Utah_Davemindjuju: did I tell you my wife gave birth to our first baby last week?
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13:57.52mindjujuholy smokes!
13:57.55mindjujuCongrats!
13:58.05mindjujuwhere be the pics?
13:58.58Utah_Davemindjuju: pm sent
14:02.48Utah_Dave~barf mindjuju
14:02.49jbotACTION barfs 3 week old pizza on mindjuju
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14:13.59mindjujutiminator - sup
14:14.10timinatorsup dude
14:18.37mindjuju~wedgie jsmith
14:18.37jbotACTION hangs jsmith from the flag pole by his underwear
14:19.15jsmithmindjuju: For all you know, I may not be wearing any clothes
14:19.21jsmith~zap mindjuju
14:19.22jbotACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives mindjuju a good jolt.
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15:06.18timinatorhave you guys seen this:   http://goosh.org/
15:06.21timinatorway cool
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15:08.42mindjujutiminator - very interesting
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15:09.57DexterTheDragon~lart mindjuju
15:09.57jbotteaches mindjuju that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right.
15:10.32_psychic_http://www.bunnyhero.org/2008/05/10/scaring-people-with-fullscreen/
15:10.35timinatorspeaking of DBs..... anyone mess w/ Cache?
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15:13.43DexterTheDragonnice _psychic_
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15:14.42SunSparcYou said it jbot
15:17.23mgeary~Yow
15:22.44SunSparcjbot, what is an egg extender?
15:22.46jbotSunSparc: what are you talking about?
15:23.04SunSparcOh nothing
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15:34.46thebigdogim in the house!!!
15:35.20mindjuju~welcome thebigdog
15:35.21jbotHowdy, thebigdog!
15:35.36thebigdogty
15:36.12mgearykk, thebigdog
15:36.25thebigdogty mgeary
15:36.27thebigdogmuch appreciated
15:37.14thebigdoganyone using tor
15:37.59mindjujuthere was somebody
15:38.11mgearyoh no. *WE* have nothing to hide. What sort of illegal activity are you doing, thebigdog? I mean, surely you must be doing something illegal since you want some privacy
15:38.24mindjujufungus, you around?
15:38.26thebigdogjust living
15:38.32thebigdogjust curious
15:38.42mgearywell, shame on you
15:38.49thebigdogtrying to download the internet is all
15:38.52fungusYes.
15:38.59mindjujuthere was soembody on this channel using tor to go around fungus's firewall
15:38.59mgearyi, for one, welcome our new all-seeing overlords
15:39.08mindjujuwho was that fungus?
15:39.26thebigdogfungus, at your work they used it?
15:39.40mindjujuwell, not for long
15:39.40mindjujuAFAIK
15:39.41fungusYup, i can't remember who anymore, I forgot.
15:39.58thebigdogoh someone here works with you?
15:40.08fungusNot here now.
15:40.18thebigdoggotcha
15:40.23mindjujuyeah, they had a small 3 or 4 character handle
15:40.28thebigdogit seems that many here work together
15:40.30mindjujutwas pretty funny that day
15:40.40thebigdogunum?
15:40.41thebigdoghehe
15:40.48thebigdogolds
15:40.56thebigdogeco or jbot
15:40.59fungusNo, neither of them
15:41.02thebigdogi'm leaning to jbot
15:41.06thebigdogbad jbot bad
15:41.08funguslol
15:41.21thebigdogi got written up at a job for doing something similiar
15:41.25thebigdogtwas funny that day
15:42.07fungusI don't know if he got written up, but he certainly got told.
15:42.25thebigdogi did it so i could be in this lovely channel
15:42.50fungusIMHO, if they keep their nose clean, ssh tunnels are just fine.
15:46.42funguslol
15:47.05fungusIt's not incoming tunnels I'm afraid of.  Just outgoing.
15:49.03_psychic_if you guys know anyone...
15:49.23thebigdog_psychic_, i know a consultant
15:49.28mindjujuonly people i know are mgeary and cole_joplin
15:49.28thebigdogof flex
15:49.42thebigdoghe is really good but kinda pricy
15:50.01_psychic_we need to hire, not contract
15:50.15_psychic_mgeary: you do flex?
15:50.28mgearynot really. i've been meaning to get in to it
15:50.43mindjujumy bad, thought you did
15:50.56wpswhat about that photo of you in the gym, mgeary?
15:51.05wpsyou appeared to do a lot of flexing
15:51.22mgearyhah
15:51.44mgearywell, since his son's 2nd grade Luau about a week ago
15:52.19mgeary_psychic_: hey, i know this guy. Name's Tyler....
15:52.29_psychic_bah
15:52.33mgeary:_
15:52.34_psychic_:)
15:52.37mgeary:)
15:53.08_psychic_Well we need *another* wright brother replacement.
15:53.15_psychic_They're kinda squirrely.
15:53.18mgearyseriously
15:53.25mgearyJac's not there anymore either?
15:53.32_psychic_He's venturing out on his own
15:53.35_psychic_which is good for him
15:53.38unumone of my coworker used to use tor
15:54.12unumbut I told him how I (and the guy I replaced) were just using ssh tunneling+ squid
15:54.33unumI screwed up and interview a month ago when they asked my if I had ever used ssh tunneling
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15:58.34mgearyscrewed up meaning you said yes?
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16:07.51timinator_psychic_: email me the job details.... I've got a buddy that's killer in Flash/Flex, I'll pass it along
16:08.09_psychic_timinator: what's your addy
16:08.14_psychic_pm me if you want
16:08.24_psychic_so it doesn't end up in the archives on the web
16:08.26timinatortimothy@huminc.com
16:08.32mindjujuoops
16:09.09_psychic_timinator: actually, can you have him contact me?
16:09.10timinatorit's alright... I had thebigdog setup a killer set of spam filters
16:09.18_psychic_timinator: that way we can ask him a few questions
16:09.39timinatorhe's not that eager to switch
16:10.08timinatorlet me rephrase
16:10.20timinatorhe's only looking into killer deals
16:10.31timinatorjust went to CO a month ago for one
16:11.11timinatorhe's really, really good
16:11.14timinator*shrug
16:12.56thebigdogno im really really good
16:13.21timinatorthebigdog IS really really good
16:13.21SunSparcwps
16:14.15timinator~thebigdog++
16:14.45_psychic_timinator: can you have him contact me instead?
16:16.11wpsyes?
16:18.19SunSparcwps: I was just going to ask a question about posting a job on the ugaf site but I figured out how to do it.  :)
16:20.37wpsk
16:21.12SunSparcThanks though.
16:24.00beandogSunSparc, you hiring?
16:24.11_psychic_beandog: yes, he is.
16:24.31SunSparc:)
16:24.36_psychic_beandog: we need Flash help the most right now though
16:25.05SunSparcFlash/Flex
16:25.18SunSparcbeandog: You know any Flex developers?
16:25.31SunSparcThat do not already work at mediaRAIN?
16:25.46beandogSunSparc, nopes
16:26.03SunSparc:)  Ok
16:26.33SunSparcDid you all see the Will it Blend Chuck Norris video?
16:27.13SunSparchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdD54rG9oQA
16:28.59orsonjspeaking of signing people up for spam: http://www.eventsthatmatter.com/members/82/ <-- this list doesn't send a confirmation email, just signs you up
16:29.33orsonjIt also looks like substituting 82 for other numbers gives you more lists to sign people up to.
16:29.41mgearywoot
16:29.44wpsyikes
16:29.57orsonj(I'm trying to get those people to fix their mailing list software)
16:30.06orsonjso, give them reason to do so!
16:30.17mindjujui lvoe that vid
16:30.27wpsput the University president's email in there
16:30.29wpsthat'll get it changed
16:30.34orsonjI need to find the company that does XSS scanning for them also
16:31.09wpsit's a state run school… you could also put the governor and other legislator's address in there
16:31.10SunSparctiminator: just gave out his email address, use that...  ;)
16:31.40orsonjAlthough, noscript now blocks the particular XSS problem we have, so it might get around to the scanning companies.
16:31.43SunSparchehe, yeah, that will get the problem noticed.
16:32.27mindjujuare you getting hit with emails already?
16:32.59orsonjshouldn't be, unless someone happened to send out something just now.
16:32.59timinatorif I am, my spam filter is doing it's job
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16:57.56orsonjwow, look at this gem: http://www.eventsthatmatter.com/members/104/
16:58.05orsonjLooks like you can sign people up for sms spam.
16:58.45SunSparctiminator: what is your mobile number?
16:59.02wps8013739120
16:59.24SunSparcSweet!
16:59.48mgearythat's awful, since most plans charge for inbound texts
17:01.41SunSparcIf the world was somehow instantly freed of the plague of spam and spammers, there would be a very loud sonic boom resulting in earth quakes around the world and we would have 75% of our time freed up.  We would have not idea what to do with ourselves.
17:03.09orsonjwell, we could start by rebuilding everything destroyed in the earthquakes
17:03.22orsonjafter that, we would all be back in shape
17:03.36orsonjWow, further incentive to stop spam!
17:03.44SunSparc:)
17:03.53mgearywhat shape are you now, SunSparc?
17:03.54SunSparcNot that we need any extra incentive.
17:04.11SunSparcmgeary: pear shape
17:04.36SunSparchehe, well actually more like a twig that swallowd a nut.
17:06.40SunSparc:)
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17:09.52wpsis there a way to determine if a GIF has a transparent background with GD?
17:12.47fungusYou can get the color of a specific pixel and determine it's transparency.
17:13.03fungusimagecolorat($img,$x,$y)
17:13.21wpshmm… I am not sure if this will work actually
17:13.28wpsit's going to have to be reviewed by a human
17:13.34_psychic__that won't give you alpha info, though
17:13.40wpsbecause every image will be unique
17:13.58wpsand even if I used a pixel right in the corner, there is a guarantee that it will always be blank
17:14.05wps(logos with transparent backgrounds)
17:18.35beandogman
17:18.40beandogpma has a freaking ton of configuration options.
17:18.59beandogits amazing what you learn when you actually read the docs.
17:27.02mindjujugee, thanks beandog!  Now we know!
17:27.10mindjuju<and knowing is half the battle!>
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17:41.56beandogmindjuju, yah Ive got all but one season
17:42.09beandogcome over sometime and watch
17:43.46mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvrHTXzMCQg
17:44.33beandogoh gosh.
17:44.48mindjujuand if you forgot, here is the original - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0EbdVIxGB0
17:45.00mindjujui don't usually watch much TV, but i did see this
17:58.29mindjujuso in apache, what do i put for the servername if it has a ton of subdomains and i'm going to SSL a bunch of them?
17:58.39mindjujudoesn't the name make a difference in the CSR ?
18:00.23PoeticIntensityfor those WoW fans, here's a look at World of WifeCraft (a bit of language, but freakin' hilarious)
18:00.26PoeticIntensityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuwsAygT58A
18:02.26beandogmindjuju, *.domain.com for the SSL cert
18:02.40beandogmindjuju, but you need a special kind for that, assuming it's not self-signed
18:03.09beandogmindjuju, er, I dont think that answered your question
18:03.19mindjujuwell, i bought a wildcard SSL cert
18:03.41mindjujuand an additional License for the second server
18:04.25beandogmindjuju, the ServerName variable really doesn't matter much, since you can override it in vhosts anyway
18:04.45beandogmindjuju, generally speaking though, the default should be www.domain.com or something similar
18:04.56mindjujuk
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18:17.46beandoghttp://failblog.org/2008/06/03/headset-fail/
18:28.23mindjujubeandog- http://failblog.org/2008/06/03/congratulations-fail/
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18:48.22beandogsuperfail.
19:03.07PoeticIntensityman... we all must be workin' today or something.
19:03.19PoeticIntensitywhat ya'll up to?
19:03.29PoeticIntensityI'm building a new web-server for Nature's Way...
19:03.46PoeticIntensitymuch beefier server.  Gonna replace to current one.
19:05.23beandogI'm setting up a PS3 at work so we can have some serious gaming tournies.
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19:11.21wpswith move_uploaded_file(), do you pass it the name of the file (ie: "something.gif") or the path to the tmp (ie: /tmp/asd3dsj)?
19:15.37beandogtmp file
19:15.47wpsthanks
19:15.53wpsso…
19:16.18SunSparcYou pass both
19:16.18wpsmove_uploaded_file('/tmp/asdfser3s', '/where/to/put/it/name.gif');
19:16.19wps?
19:16.26mgearyhey, fungus
19:16.39SunSparcbool move_uploaded_file ( string $filename , string $destination )
19:17.00mgearycan you help me figure out what's going on with a client's DNS?
19:17.10fungusI can try
19:17.30mgearyget my PM?
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19:40.36thebigdogwho here works at the security store?
19:40.58SunSparcTHE "Security Store"?
19:41.10SunSparcOh, you spoke with someone before.
19:41.16SunSparcHmm, I am not sure.
19:42.56thebigdogi thought there is a member in the channel that does web dev for a site that is a security ecommerce site
19:43.01thebigdogi cant remember who that is
19:45.23thebigdogjbot, kingsol is in the house!
19:45.24jbotthebigdog: okay
19:48.46kingsolthebigdog: word.
19:50.00thebigdoghehe
19:50.24thebigdogok so no one here works for a security site...man im ready to through some business your way
19:52.13SunSparc~kingsol
19:52.14jboti guess kingsol is in the house!
19:53.00SunSparcthebigdog: I sell security certificates.  :)
19:53.24thebigdogjbot SunSparc need a fish
19:53.31thebigdog~whaleslap SunSparc
19:53.31jbotACTION beats SunSparc upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
19:53.40SunSparcOUCH!
19:54.06SunSparc~fernpee thebigdog
19:54.18SunSparc:(
19:54.31mgeary~fernpee
19:54.31jbotACTION whistles for BigDrink, the 180-lb Labrador Retriever with the 40-gallon bladder, to relieve himself on that fern over there in the corner...
19:54.55SunSparc:)
19:55.44thebigdog~tunafart SunSparc
19:55.44jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to SunSparc, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
19:55.53thebigdog~melvin SunSparc
19:55.54jbotACTION pulls SunSparc underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles
19:55.55SunSparc~lart thebigdog
19:55.55jbotexecutes killall -HUP thebigdog
19:56.31SunSparcthebigdog: Did you see that WoW video earlier?
19:56.39thebigdogno
19:56.41thebigdogwhat is the link
19:57.00SunSparchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuwsAygT58A
19:57.08SunSparcPoeticIntensity provided it.
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20:06.00thebigdogtrade that in for thunderfury
20:06.01thebigdoghaha
20:06.24thebigdoghttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=19019
20:06.29thebigdogthat is an awesome blade
20:08.14SunSparcWow, nice.
20:08.55SunSparcI don't think girls should get to be level 70 just because they wear a bra.
20:09.01thebigdogyeah
20:12.52PoeticIntensity:)
20:12.58PoeticIntensityI don't play WoW, and I thought it was hilarious.
20:13.13SunSparcIt was.  :)
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20:22.43bwelkerjbot, how cool are you?
20:22.44jbotbwelker: I think you lost me on that one
20:22.56SunSparchehe
20:22.59bwelkerjbot, that's too bad
20:23.00beandogjbot_, how cool am I?
20:23.21bwelkerjbot, you got confused
20:23.50bwelker~lart jbot
20:23.50jbotshoots bwelker in the head
20:23.55bwelkerLOL
20:24.16SunSparcHAHA!
20:24.18bwelkerdamn you jbot, damn you
20:24.47bwelkermaybe its the _
20:24.54bwelker~lart jbot_
20:24.54jbotchanges jbot_'s permissions to 0777 and tells the world
20:25.03bwelkerbetter
20:25.11bwelkernot quite a shot in the head though
20:26.16bwelkerjbot, what can you do?
20:26.49bwelkeri think jbot is shy right now
20:28.20SunSparcbwelker: PM him and say help
20:28.55bwelkercoo thanks
20:28.57mgeary~admire SunSparc
20:28.57jbotACTION secretly and androgynously wishes it were just like SunSparc
20:32.31SunSparcJust like an android to say something like that.
20:33.59SunSparcjbot, do you grant wishes?
20:33.59jbotyes, I grant wishes.
20:34.04SunSparcSWEET!
20:34.25mgearyjbot, do you eat worms?
20:34.25jbotyes, I eat worms.
20:34.27SunSparcjbot, I wish I had a million dollars.
20:34.27jbotYou wish I had a million dollars.?
20:34.40wpsjbot is a lumberjack
20:34.56wpshe wishes he were a girlie… just like his dear papa!
20:35.01SunSparcjbot, it can be quite exasperating to converse with you.
20:35.01jbotSo we want to be stupid, right, can be quite exasperating to converse with you. ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop!
20:35.18mgearyhahaah
20:35.23mgeary~it SunSparc
20:35.24jbotSo we want to be stupid, right, SunSparc ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop!
20:35.24wpsI think he's lost his mind
20:35.28mgearynice
20:35.48mgeary~nerdschool wps
20:35.49jbotACTION chains wps to a molded-fiberglass all-in-one desk/chair, fills his backpack with sci-fi and fantasy novels, and plants him in Norm Bangerter's Elementary Physics class for re-indoctrination.
20:35.53SunSparclol
20:35.57SunSparcToo funny
20:36.02wpswow
20:36.06wpsdidn't see that coming
20:37.34mgeary~inquisition
20:37.34jbotsomebody said inquisition was "No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition!!"
20:37.40mgearyno no
20:37.42bwelkernice
20:37.50wps~bubbles
20:37.51jbotbubbles is, like, michael jackson's monkey
20:38.13bwelker~windows
20:38.14jbotextra, extra, read all about it, windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs, or bloatware, or an operating system
20:38.36wpsthe WOW bootloader <-- ha ha ha
20:38.37bwelkerWoW bootloader   lol
20:38.52bwelker~linux
20:38.53jbotwell, linux is the cure for cancer, AIDS and slavery to corporations
20:39.02wps~brittney spears
20:39.09wps~britney spears
20:39.10jbotrumour has it, britney spears is a whore
20:39.14bwelker~php
20:39.15jbotMmmmmmmmhmmmm! Tasty scripts!! http://www.php.net/, or the solution of choice for relaying mysql errors to users
20:39.15bwelkerlol
20:39.25wpsha ha ha
20:39.27bwelkerrelay lol
20:39.32wps"the solution of choice for relaying mysql errors to users"
20:39.34wpsthat's awesome
20:39.49wpsjbot, die
20:39.50jbotACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
20:40.03bwelkeraww, we'll miss you, jbot
20:40.18bwelkerjbot, RIP
20:40.19jbotrumour has it, rip is an old routing protocol, still in use in many places however, but probably better to use OSPF or BGP accordingly
20:40.34SunSparcWho knew a cyber room full of nerds could have so much fun with an interactive script.
20:40.46bwelkeri never would have thought it possible
20:40.48wpssad, isn't it
20:41.09SunSparcHehe, actually, it make me smile.
20:41.47bwelkerit's almost as much fun as giving a room full of nerds a slide rule
20:41.47SunSparcI guess I should get back to work now that I am smiling.
20:41.47bwelkerbut only one rule to ring them all...   wiat
20:41.47bwelker*wait
20:41.47SunSparcslide rules can be used like light sabers also.
20:42.00bwelkerif you swish them hard enough, the middle comes out and acts like a missle
20:42.14SunSparcYep, if they do not have a good attachment
20:42.49bwelkerjbot, slide rules are in need of good attachments
20:42.49jbotbwelker: okay
20:44.16SunSparclol
20:44.22SunSparc~slide rules
20:44.22jbotslide rules are in need of good attachments
20:44.29SunSparcSo I hear
20:44.48SunSparc~bwelker
20:44.48jboti heard bwelker is statistically significant, or thinks he's funny
20:44.48bwelkerjbot, don't take credit for my genius
20:44.58SunSparcLOL
20:45.13bwelkerthats what my mom tells me all the time
20:45.31SunSparcLOL
20:45.40SunSparcOk, seriously, I need to get back to work.
20:45.54wpsjbot, get back to work
20:45.55jbotACTION fetches back to work
20:46.06bwelkerdon't do it, IRC is calling you
20:46.13bwelkersee the little bar just blinked
20:46.23SunSparc:)
20:46.36wpswant some help, SunSparc ?
20:46.55bwelkerthere's a little X at the top of your IRC window... click it
20:46.56SunSparcHehe, help getting back to work?  :)
20:47.01wpsyes
20:47.16SunSparcNo little X's
20:47.22bwelkerboo
20:47.28SunSparc:)
20:47.35fungusSunSparc: I can help you get back to work.  ;)
20:47.39bwelkerit has Xs
20:47.55wpsMac's close window buttons have little x's
20:48.21wpsjust not until you hover over them
20:48.21SunSparcTrue, on mouse over
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20:48.21wpsha ha ha
20:48.21funguslol
20:48.21bwelkerlol
20:48.21wpsI pushed it for him
20:48.28bwelkerooo oo   push mine
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20:48.37wpsoops
20:48.52wpssuck
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20:48.57wpsbeandog is going to be mad
20:49.15funguswhoops.
20:49.25wpsI tried to tab-complete "bwelker" but fungus already had
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20:49.50wpsjbot, tell beandog not to be mad
20:49.52fungusyeah, beandog comes before bwelker,  tab completion is annoying
20:51.10wpsI need to go visit Yoda to learn how to properly use this power
20:51.37wps~yoda SunSparc
21:01.38mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8
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21:17.53pcariniHello <-- New here
21:18.04wpswelcome
21:18.07jsmithHello pcarini
21:18.14jsmithWelcome to our secret club
21:18.21jsmithOK, so it's not so secret
21:18.28jsmith(and it's not really a club)
21:18.32jsmithBut you get the idea
21:18.38pcarinihehe.. Grazie.  In the way of introduction, I'm a webgeek @ the U of U Marriott Library.
21:19.14_psychic_pcarini: welcome
21:19.48wpsjbot, kiss pcarini
21:19.49jbotACTION forces pcarini to give wps a big kiss on the forhead
21:19.50pcariniI've been doing PHP since right after 5 came out, so I guess around 4 years now
21:19.51SunSparcjbot UofU is the current home of the Real Salt Lake soccer games
21:19.51jbotokay, SunSparc
21:19.57wpswait a minute
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21:33.46*** topic/#uphpu is Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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21:33.52thebigdog~flip timinator
21:33.53jbotACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|.
21:34.21SunSparcthebigdog: Can you change jbot's name and remove the underscore?
21:34.34thebigdogno only riker can i think
21:34.52thebigdogcause he is #1
21:35.07SunSparcOf course
21:35.11SunSparc~jbot
21:35.12jbotmethinks jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or  [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass
21:35.32wpshe probably only has an underscore because freenode still things he is logged in as "job" as well
21:36.16SunSparcjbot are you are girl?
21:36.26SunSparcI mean
21:36.32SunSparcjbot, are you a girl?
21:37.16wpsjbot, do you have a girlfriend?
21:37.16jbotyes, I have a girlfriend.
21:37.28wpsthus I hope he isn't a girl
21:37.35orsonjall girls have girlfriends
21:37.37pcarininah, that'd be totally hawt
21:37.54SunSparchehe
21:38.06SunSparcjbot, what is your sex?
21:38.06jboti heard your sex is ?
21:38.11SunSparclol
21:38.49pcarinithis looks like fun
21:38.55pcarinijbot, what is the meaning of life?
21:38.56jbotI think you lost me on that one, pcarini
21:39.41SunSparc~factstats
21:39.46pcariniguess I should've asked about life, the universe, and everything.
21:39.57wpsjbot, wedgie pcarini
21:39.58jbotACTION hangs pcarini from the flag pole by his underwear
21:40.03pcarininooooo
21:40.07wps~wedgie pcarini
21:40.07jbotACTION hangs pcarini from the flag pole by his underwear
21:40.17wpswhat is wrong with this stupid bot?
21:40.24wpsjbot, are you drunk?
21:40.33thebigdog~melvin pcarini
21:40.33jbotACTION pulls pcarini underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles
21:41.15pcarinisweet, jbot bought my brand of underwear
21:41.42SunSparc~jorb
21:41.42jbotsomebody said jorb was how professor_x spells job, or how coach Z says job sometimes
21:42.53mgearyholy war
21:42.55mgearyhmmm
21:43.18mgeary~lart short-sighted bozos who patronize Wal*Mart at the expense of everything we hold dear
21:43.19jbotslaps short-sighted bozos who patronize Wal*Mart at the expense of everything we hold dear upside the head with a wet fish
21:43.22SunSparc~holy war
21:43.23jbot"O Lord, grant that we may always be right, for Thou knowest we will never change our minds."
21:44.03SunSparc~cookie mgeary
21:44.19SunSparchehe
21:44.35SunSparc~nickometer pcarini
21:44.36mgeary~lart paranoid hillbillies who stockpile handguns thinking it gives them increased security from all the other paranoid hillbillies
21:44.36jbotblames paranoid hillbillies who stockpile handguns thinking it gives them increased security from all the other paranoid hillbillies for all the evil in the world
21:44.47pcarinimwa ha ha
21:45.02SunSparcwell picked nick pcarini
21:45.08_psychic_mgeary: you anti-gun?
21:45.09pcarinithanks much, Sun
21:45.11pcariniand jbot
21:45.12SunSparc:)
21:45.27pcariniI hope anything with 'sephiroth' gets 100% lameness
21:45.30SunSparcEveryone should own at least one gun
21:45.48SunSparc~nickometer sephiroth
21:45.53pcarinibah
21:45.56mgeary_psychic_: i'm particularly anti-handgun, yes
21:45.59SunSparc~nickometer _psychic_
21:46.03_psychic_sweet
21:46.04SunSparcOuch
21:46.32pcarini~nickometer rubyonrails
21:46.34_psychic_My big problem with anti-gun views, is that you're only keeping weapons away from good people
21:46.36pcarinibah
21:46.41SunSparcmgeary: Which means you are all for fully automatic sub-machine guns, right?
21:46.42_psychic_whereas bad people already have them
21:47.14wpstrue
21:47.20wpsbut I still don't want a gun in my house
21:47.22mgeary_psychic_: you may be confusing anti-gun views with anti-gun laws
21:47.34mgearyi didn't say you couldn't buy a gun
21:47.40mgearybut i'm very anti-gun
21:47.45mgearygo figger that one out
21:48.08SunSparcI think there should be no weapons at all.  However, that is impossible.  So I prefer to have one.
21:48.25pcariniwith no weapons, people would kill by hand
21:48.29wpsI'd be pointless… because if I did have a gun I would insist that the bullets be in one location, locked… and the gun in another locked… which would prevent me from getting it out and assembled in time to kill an intruder
21:48.44SunSparcpcarini: That is why I said it is impossible.  :)
21:48.55pcariniyeah, but you could still take it out and put holes through paper, wps
21:49.15wpsI'd rather recreate in a more constructive manner
21:50.37_psychic_there are safe ways to store guns
21:50.54_psychic_these stories about accidents are often because of neglect or poor habits
21:51.01wpsabsolutelytrue… but not ways to have them stored safe and get them out quickly
21:51.10_psychic_I think it's important for smart, sane, stable people to arm themselves, personally.
21:51.12SunSparcwps: Not true
21:51.19_psychic_agreed
21:51.25_psychic_you can store them safely with quick access
21:51.28_psychic_have you looked for solutions?
21:51.36SunSparcI have, and they have them.
21:51.39wpsno… I don't care to look into guns :)
21:52.01SunSparcGood idea, especially if they are loaded.
21:52.10wpsnice
21:52.14SunSparc:)
21:53.30mindjujureq -new -out
21:55.04mindjujuwhat the heck is a PEM pass phrase?
21:55.31SunSparcjust a password that you use to install the cert
21:55.45PoeticIntensityI saw "The Strangers" yesterday....
21:56.13PoeticIntensityreinforced my serious consideration of getting a handgun...
21:56.14SunSparcmindjuju: you can leave it blank, but for safety in transport you should specify one
21:56.27PoeticIntensitybut before I do that, I'll be attending some serious training.
21:56.29_psychic_mgeary: yeah but you ended it by confusing me rather than arguing
21:56.49mgeary_psychic_: well, i didn't want to *fight* in the holy war. just start it
21:57.02mgearyKind of like GWB
21:57.17PoeticIntensityheh... mgeary's on a roll.
21:57.19pcarininow you're looking to start two
21:57.25_psychic_ugh that's not funny and funny all at once
21:57.41mgeary~karma mgeary
21:57.41jbotmgeary has karma of 7
21:57.42mindjujuSunSparc - sorry was reading the apache site for more info
21:57.46mgeary~karma thebigdog
21:57.46jbotthebigdog has karma of 7
21:57.46mindjujuany recomendations on how long
21:57.51mindjujuor whatcharacters to include
21:58.20SunSparcmindjuju: just like any password, make it as long and unmemorable as possible for best security.
21:58.42mindjujuk
22:00.47SunSparcmindjuju: I usually use 12+ characters
22:01.04SunSparchttp://bluesunhosting.com/phpwebtools/password.php
22:01.52pcariniI've been using KeePass lately, it helps keep me sane: http://keepass.info/
22:04.03pcariniI have it generate as long and complex of passwords as I can use, and really _really_ hope I never lose the keepass file, or forget its pass
22:04.20pcarini(and have a couple of backups)
22:05.18SunSparcGood idea
22:05.49pcarinisince I haven't forgotten my master password yet, yeah
22:12.38SunSparcjbot, what is the root password to the CIA mainframe?
22:12.40jbotSunSparc: what are you talking about?
22:12.54SunSparccome on, jbot, I know you know.
22:13.02pcarinijbot's one of them !
22:13.09SunSparcfigures
22:14.10timinator~flip thebigdog
22:14.11jbotACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|.
22:15.47SunSparcI don't remember that commercial.
22:16.27wpshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=rnN17uJQUbc
22:17.17SunSparcOh yeah!  I love those commercials.
22:17.39SunSparcSuch a clever campaign
22:17.49wpsindeed
22:17.57SunSparc"This is gonna be the best prom evar..."
22:18.04SunSparclol
22:18.17SunSparc"My GIRL robot".
23:04.18timinatorI'm out guys..... later
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