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02:23.27ruprectshhhhh    be quiet....
02:28.25orsonjDon't complain. It was twice as bad before you came in.
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13:34.41mindjujuanybody around?
13:59.14mindjujujsmith, you around?
13:59.36jsmithmindjuju: Yeah, of course!
14:00.01mindjujuhey, i'm having a smidge of trouble attaching 2 attachments to an email
14:00.28mindjujui've googled it, and most solutions are using PEAR to send email
14:00.32mindjujui'm not using PEAR
14:00.37jsmithmindjuju: And I'm supposed to know how to do it?
14:00.53mindjujunot to mention, the attachments seem to be sticking, but i think my prob is in the email header
14:00.56mindjujuoh
14:00.59mindjuju:(
14:01.12jsmithmindjuju: I've done it dozens of times, but I've always used a piece of custom code I wrote years ago
14:01.34jsmithmindjuju: And to be honest, I'm not even sure I even have the code around
14:01.43mindjujuthat's ok
14:01.51mindjujui'll keep googling until others show up
14:02.13mindjujui'm like 99% sure that my problem is here -->  Content-Type: application/pdf; name="retainer_agreement_form.pdf"
14:02.46mindjujuneed to find a way to here tell the email client there are 2 attachments
14:04.33jsmithContent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_057DAA17-06B3-47BB-AAFD-9DC7F08DE92E_"
14:05.24jsmithThen later in the message:
14:05.26jsmith--_057DAA17-06B3-47BB-AAFD-9DC7F08DE92E_
14:05.26jsmithContent-Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
14:05.26jsmithContent-Transfer-Encoding: base64
14:05.26jsmithContent-Disposition: attachment; filename="080517 AFS Module 1.odt"
14:05.26jsmithContent-Description: 080517 AFS Module 1.odt
14:06.04mindjujuoh cool!
14:06.27mindjujuthx!
14:23.06jsmithIt's not *everything* you need, but it should give you a good start
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15:13.05mgearymorning
15:13.24mindjujumorning mgeary
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15:26.08mgeary~ow
15:26.10mgeary~yow
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15:53.59mindjujumorn
16:01.22mindjujulooks like pcclub got bought out
16:05.23mindjujuhmmm... pledge to download FF3
16:15.08SunSparcFirefox 3?
16:15.29mindjujuhttp://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord
16:17.02SunSparcOk, but they don't mention what day is download day.  Or did I miss it?
16:17.34mindjujuthey don't
16:17.44mindjujuBy the way, the official date for the launch of Firefox 3 will be posted here  soon - so check back! Join our community and this effort by pledging today.
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16:21.28mgearybah
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16:23.00wpsI won't be interested in FF until they can fix their font anti-aliasing for starters
16:23.32thebigdogi would use safari if it worked
16:23.36beandogseamonkey > *
16:23.52wpswhat about Safari doesn't work for you, thebigdog
16:24.12thebigdogit looks and acts like crap
16:24.20mgearypsh
16:24.30wpsinteresting… I have the exact opposite experience
16:24.33mgearyone thing Safari doesn't do is look like crap. it's got the best font rendering i've seen
16:24.48wpsthere isn't a browser out there that renders shapes, graphics, or text like Safari
16:25.09wpsevery other browser is block, bitty, and jagged in every way
16:25.12beandogshapes and graphics?
16:25.15beandogo.O
16:25.27wps(lines shapes drawn with CSS rather than images)
16:25.36beandogah okay, I was gonna say.
16:25.56wpsand FF's form fields are way ugly
16:30.16beandogit annoys me how safari changes the submit form buttons
16:30.20beandogmakes em all fancy-like
16:31.07wpsthey look a lot better than those 1994 ones FF spits out
16:31.32wpsand besides, it's just the default… toss some CSS in there and you can make them anything you want
16:32.49thebigdogsame with ff
16:34.30wpsright… I'm just making the point that Safari's "aqua" buttons are not forced on you… they are just the default
16:35.16SunSparcI recently made it my default browser.  Now I use Firefox for development
16:35.46beandogIm just making the point that I think they're bugly.
16:35.49beandog:)
16:36.19beandogbut then again, I really like all my applications to look as plain as possible.
16:36.32beandogso I'm sure I'm in the extreme minority.
16:36.33SunSparcStick with Lynx
16:36.40SunSparc:)
16:36.41beandogelinks++
16:36.48SunSparchehe
16:38.49beandogOne thing I cant believe is that Apple kept the Mac OS X UI for the Windows port.
16:39.08beandogWhen are they gonna get off the brushed metal horse
16:39.30SunSparcIt just helps introduce people to the OS X.  An enticement...
16:39.52beandogheh
16:39.57wpsha ha ha
16:40.02SunSparc:)
16:40.06wps~SunSparc++
16:40.14SunSparcjbot, give beandog a pony
16:40.14jbotACTION gives a pony to beandog
16:40.20SunSparcwps: Hey thanks!
16:44.02mindjujuoh wow
16:44.05mindjujuhttp://www.manbabies.com/
16:44.15mindjujutha'ts funnier than beandog 's cheezeburger
16:44.30wpsthat's WAY better than the stupid cheesburger cat site
16:46.02SunSparcWhoa!  Those are scary
16:46.15mindjujuwow, these are funny
16:47.32wpsI wish MySQL automatically logged created and modified dates so that you didn't have to add columns for those and manage it in your query
16:48.04_psychic_fwiw, CakePHP models do that automatically.
16:48.16_psychic_though the columns need to be there
16:48.23DexterTheDragondoes in CakePHP w00t
16:48.31beandogwps, hmm .... that is a cool idea.  it *might* be stored in metadata somewhere
16:48.33mgearyso does my lil' mini-framework
16:48.44beandogwps, oh add columns, nevermind.  fail.
16:48.55wpssorry to be so harsh against the cheesburger site, but it creeps the crap out of me
16:49.12SunSparcand manbabies doesn't?
16:49.19wpsno… that's funny
16:49.25SunSparchehe
16:49.29beandogSunSparc, I'm equally creeped.
16:49.36SunSparc^5 beandog
16:50.03wpscats in weird poses with lame text message molested grammar speak is whacked
16:50.29beandogthat reminds me, I hae a great one
16:50.34wpsspeaking of grammar… that should probably be hyphenated
16:50.39beandoghttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/27/funny-pictures-colonel-mustard-lead-pipe-study/
16:50.47wpscats in weird poses with lame text-message-molested-grammar-speak is whacked
16:51.37josephscottyeah, but it gets a ton of traffic :-)
16:52.04beandogmiddle aged babies is a lot freakier
16:52.10wpsa lot of people smoke too
16:52.23beandogeverything you know is wrong
16:52.29wps:)
16:52.34beandog~weird al
16:52.34jbotmethinks weird al is the singer of The Fat Song
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16:55.39josephscottwps: just say no to lolcats?
16:55.46wpsyes
16:55.51beandognever say never
16:55.55herlojosephscott: just replied to your email... thanks
16:55.57beandogagain.
16:56.10SunSparcAmerican Tail
16:56.17josephscottherlo: I did email her about friday morning, haven't heard back yet
16:56.20beandogSunSparc, eh?
16:56.35SunSparcbeandog: You just quoted American Tail.
16:56.45beandogman, I hate that movie.
16:56.48SunSparchehe
16:56.49beandogI was quoting Bond.
16:57.08josephscottwps: I wouldn't turn down the ad revenue for lolcats though, if someone were to offer it to me :-)
16:57.13SunSparcHmm, I wonder which movie had it first...
16:59.17herlojosephscott: w00t! see you tomororw
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17:11.21orsonj~lart network issues
17:11.21jbotshoves a crumpet down network issues's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that?
17:11.30beandogI want jam
17:11.39mindjujuorsonj [n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu]  prolly REALLY means Skinner@fbi.gov
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17:54.15mindjujuare there just 6 H's in HTML?
17:54.23mindjujulike H1, H2, H3, etc
17:54.37_psychic_I think so
17:54.47mindjujuk, thx
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17:57.04orsonjlooks like it got fixed now
17:58.45SunSparcorsonj: I have been getting notices from the IRC admins.  Seems they were working on some things.
17:59.13orsonjYep, I got a couple after I was able to get my network back up.
18:01.51mgearyanyone here know anyone in Utah Valley who'd like a sort of intern/data-entry/content management type of job paying in the neighborhood of $16/hour?
18:02.19SunSparcPart time, from home?
18:02.42mgearyno, on-site. could possibly be part-time
18:02.56SunSparcI have a 6 year old that wants some money.  He can type pretty well.
18:03.01mgearybring him over
18:03.16SunSparchehe
18:03.25SunSparcHe would think that was fun for about all of 5 minutes.
18:03.36mgearyprobably not even that
18:03.39SunSparcYeah
18:04.01mgearyshort attention spa.. oh! hey, look! A spider!
18:04.11SunSparcHmmm, you must have kids.
18:04.12orsonjgive him fifty cents after the first three minutes
18:04.13SunSparc;)
18:04.26orsonjand then every three minutes thereafter
18:04.53SunSparcWould you be interested in wives who are just sitting at home watching soaps?
18:04.56orsonjHowever, after about $3.50 he would probably want to go shopping
18:05.20SunSparcorsonj: Actually, once he gets $1 he wants to go blow it at the dollar store.
18:05.49SunSparcHe is still learning about how $1 is actually less after tax and tithing.
18:06.13mgearySunSparc: well, we do need someone on-site, but beyond that, if they can follow instructions, can learn quickly, and have a basic understanding of how the internet works...
18:06.30mgearyideally someone who could write decently
18:06.40mgearybut no programming skills whatsoever are needed
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18:07.17SunSparcmgeary: I will pass the information to my family and see if any are interested.
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18:35.16mindjujuif you have a table with 3 cols and 8 rows, is there a way to make the inside borders 1px black solid, but none of the outside borders?
19:10.06tierraI've done it with strictly just CSS before iirc
19:11.18mindjujui just gave up on it
19:11.21tierraah yeah, found it
19:11.24mindjujuseems like it would take a billion styles
19:11.39tierraI don't know how compatible this will be with various browsers...
19:12.32tierratd { border-left: 1px solid #ccc; border-top: 1px solid #ccc; } td:first-child { border-left: none; border-top: none; }
19:12.36tierraor something like that anyway
19:14.38tierraaccording to Web Devout, that should work everywhere except in IE6
19:15.27SunSparcHere is a Table Wizard  http://www.somacon.com/p141.php
19:15.37SunSparcIt has come in handy once or twie
19:15.40SunSparcc
19:16.16tierranice
19:17.30tierraer, my CSS was wrong
19:18.12tierratd { border-left: 1px solid #ccc; border-top: 1px solid #ccc; } td:first-child { border-left: none; }
19:18.27tierramy actual table I use it with has a TH row, so I use that to my advantage
19:18.31tierrahttp://docs.wxwidgets.org/log.404.php
19:19.26jsmithtierra: Wall of shame, or good potential for cross-site scripting exploit?!?
19:20.51tierracould be, except that nothing on the docs.wxwidgets.org domain has anything sensitive
19:22.52tierraand also, that page is only used by myself
19:30.33xilch|wtierra: You use everything to your advantage.
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20:12.01mgearysay what you will about cats, but they make a fine meatloaf
20:13.05SunSparcmgeary: Perhaps made into a wurst with curry ketchup
20:13.21mgearynow now, don't let's be silly
20:13.29SunSparc:)
20:14.11mindjujumgeary, i love that quote
20:14.39mgearywhich quote? The Mad Hatter?
20:14.43mindjujuyeah
20:15.07mgearynot bad, mindjuju, not bad
20:15.12SunSparcmgeary: What hours is the data entry jorb?
20:15.33mgearynot sure, still sort of figuring things out
20:15.45SunSparcOne of my siblings is wondering.
20:15.50mgearywe generally work 9-6
20:15.54mgearyor 8-5
20:16.10mgearybut we could entertain some fraction of that for part-time
20:17.09SunSparcOk, I will let them know.
20:17.53mgearythough if s/he is as big a slacker as you are....
20:18.40mgearyi mean, we all get tired of _psychic_ complaining about how he has to pick up your slack all the time
20:19.31SunSparcRight, if everyone were as lazy as me there would be no work left to do on this earth.  ;)
20:20.07_psychic_mgeary: It's only to get back at him for all the trash talk when I'm not around
20:20.42SunSparcOr for the few blocks I am able to make on your foos shots.
20:24.43_psychic_:)
20:37.02bwelkermmmmm....   forbidden foos....
20:38.06bwelkerforbids you to forbid me to block your shots
20:38.13SunSparcI refuse to comply
20:38.15SunSparc:)
20:38.20_psychic_you can't refuse
20:38.36SunSparcLet's go back to the table and see if I can.
20:38.40bwelkerbring it
20:39.27_psychic_bwelker: you in utah county?
20:39.35_psychic_I still think we need a uphpu foos tourny
20:39.38bwelkernope, sl county
20:39.43bwelkerthat would be cool
20:40.24_psychic_bwelker: where do you work?
20:40.28bwelkerCG
20:40.31_psychic_nice
20:40.35bwelkeryes itis
20:41.01_psychic_bug macnewbold - my foos challenge went unanswered yesterday
20:41.15_psychic_most likely due to fear
20:41.25bwelkerlol  probably
20:41.29_psychic_hehe
20:41.33SunSparcLosing company buys the other lunch?
20:41.35bwelkeralthough he has his secret spin attack
20:41.52_psychic_we allow a revolution before and after a strike
20:41.57_psychic_and play to 5
20:42.07bwelkerthen he strikes it 6-7 times per kick
20:42.44SunSparc:)
20:42.49SunSparcTHAT is forbidden
20:43.02bwelkermmmm...   forbidden spin attack....
20:46.02bwelkeri say spins are allowed but must be preceeded by a cry of "Shoryuken"
20:47.31SunSparcThat could make things fun :)
20:49.34_psychic_lol
20:50.05_psychic_bwelker: set a date for the showdown - you can come to our place - we have a nice foos setup
20:50.18bwelkerwhere is that?
20:50.21_psychic_orem
20:50.28bwelkerthats pretty far
20:50.41_psychic_do you guys ever come down for geek lunch or anything?
20:51.06bwelkermaybe we should talk to the powers that be and set up a company field trip and have a tourny
20:51.14bwelkernope
20:51.18bwelkernot me anyway
20:51.29bwelkeri've only been to one meeting
20:51.50_psychic_I've never been
20:51.56_psychic_but I know they come down here sometimes
20:52.00bwelkerand unfortunately i missed the geek lunch at rodizio
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21:06.41mindjujujbot, dance
21:06.42jbotSir! Too much booty in the pants, sir!
21:39.44SunSparcjbot, breakdance
21:39.58SunSparcjbot, do the robot
21:39.58jbotACTION does the robot.
21:40.05SunSparcNice
21:41.13thebigdogjsmith, you around?
21:41.41mindjujuif you wish to communicate with jsmith, you must pay tribute
21:42.04jsmiththebigdog: Yes
21:42.10jsmithmindjuju: I ain't all that and a bag of chips
21:55.43mindjujubeandog - http://www.wikiupload.com/images/simpsons-dragonball.php
22:03.48thebigdogmindjuju, that is great
22:08.27herlojsmith: just the bag of chips will do
22:08.57jsmith~buy herlo chip
22:08.57jbotACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen chips for herlo
22:12.24herloyay!
22:38.50SunSparcYouTube seems to be down for me.
22:43.49DexterTheDragonhttp://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
22:49.43SunSparcThat's what is was. I was trying to remember that.
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23:16.45timinatorI'm out..... later guys
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