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| 14:37.07 | mindjuju | greets all |
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| 15:02.21 | orsonj | mornin' |
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| 15:03.58 | gibbawho | whatsup dudes, long time no see |
| 15:04.45 | mindjuju | sup gibbawho |
| 15:05.22 | gibbawho | hey, anyone need a job? we're looking for a php dude |
| 15:05.48 | gibbawho | 50-65k salary depending on resume |
| 15:06.21 | gibbawho | all web app programming, we do alot with xcart so experience with that is a plus |
| 15:06.45 | gibbawho | and you won't have to worry about cross browser compatiblity or styling cause i take care of all that |
| 15:07.02 | mindjuju | sounds like an awesome gig |
| 15:07.09 | gibbawho | just thought i'd drop that in here, cause we're done going through headhunters |
| 15:07.21 | mindjuju | don't think i've heard of anybody in the last couple of weeks saying that they were looking |
| 15:07.27 | mindjuju | have you posted it to the mailing list? |
| 15:07.33 | gibbawho | not yet |
| 15:08.08 | gibbawho | is it like ... list@uphpu.org? |
| 15:08.21 | gibbawho | or do i have to submit it to someone for review first? |
| 15:08.40 | mindjuju | it used to have to be submitted, but i don't think it is that way anymore |
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| 15:08.52 | mindjuju | the most important qualifications it needed was pay and description |
| 15:08.59 | mindjuju | any you've listed both here |
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| 15:09.14 | mindjuju | wps, you around? |
| 15:10.28 | mindjuju | he's usually around in the morning, you going to be in chat room today gibbawho? |
| 15:14.41 | gibbawho | yeah i'm gonna stick around |
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| 16:56.26 | gibbawho | alright, i submitted that job listing to uphpu job mailing list. anyone interested feel free to hit me up at any time. |
| 17:00.51 | orsonj | have any 20-30k lower level positions? |
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| 17:02.43 | gibbawho | orsonj: our dev team is small, anything in that range would be phone support or sales |
| 17:05.29 | gibbawho | unum: mine? |
| 17:05.43 | gibbawho | i dunno if they get approved first or what put i posted it about an hour ago |
| 17:06.18 | unum | I'm in console bode right now and I use thunderbird |
| 17:06.23 | unum | s/bode/mode |
| 17:06.35 | unum | trying to upgrade this stupid fedora box |
| 17:09.15 | orsonj | I got the email |
| 17:32.56 | thebigdog | gibbawho, did you get my pm? |
| 17:50.39 | mindjuju | ~APB fungus |
| 17:50.40 | jbot | ACTION calls Tim to spray mace at fungus |
| 17:51.22 | fungus | ~whaleslap mindjuju |
| 17:51.23 | jbot | ACTION beats mindjuju upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:57.33 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 18:00.58 | mindjuju | YeeHaw! |
| 18:01.04 | mindjuju | somebody get me an Oracle book! |
| 18:01.49 | mindjuju | New Oracle facility in West Jordan - The facility will have about 100 employees, with wages more than double the Salt Lake County median wage. - http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,700227312,00.html |
| 18:02.56 | unum | average wage will be about 70k then |
| 18:03.06 | mindjuju | heh, nice |
| 18:04.54 | unum | nope according to sltrib it's only $64k |
| 18:09.30 | gibbawho | thebigdog: i have now |
| 18:09.53 | thebigdog | k |
| 18:14.23 | thebigdog | gibbawho, did you get that new tab with my question (personal message)? |
| 18:15.10 | gibbawho | yeah i've been replying |
| 18:15.17 | gibbawho | you not seeing my replies? |
| 18:16.19 | SunSparc | gibbawho: your name is not registered, thebigdog may not accept private messages from unregistered names. |
| 18:16.42 | gibbawho | oh ok |
| 18:16.55 | thebigdog | oh yeah you have to be registered with freenode |
| 18:17.18 | thebigdog | gibbawho, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering |
| 18:17.20 | SunSparc | or thebigdog has to enable anonymous private messages |
| 18:17.27 | SunSparc | either way |
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| 18:28.37 | mgeary | the average salary in SLC is $32k?? |
| 18:29.34 | mgeary | 'course i guess for every Big Dog earning six figures, there's 20 guys sweeping the streets |
| 18:31.10 | orsonj | just have to read the stats correctly median != average != mode |
| 18:31.22 | orsonj | that said, 32k still seems low |
| 18:31.53 | SunSparc | Not bad for a Taco Bell manager. |
| 18:32.03 | mgeary | Taco Bell managers make more than that |
| 18:32.13 | mgeary | my first job was at Taco Bell |
| 18:32.24 | mgeary | back in '87 |
| 18:32.47 | SunSparc | Back when tacos were still only 49 cents |
| 18:32.51 | mgeary | uh, no |
| 18:32.55 | mgeary | they were $.25 |
| 18:33.04 | SunSparc | Yeah, been a while. |
| 18:33.06 | mgeary | at least, they had this long promotion where they were a quarter |
| 18:33.23 | SunSparc | Of course, gas was $0.99/gallon too. |
| 18:33.42 | SunSparc | And diesel was cheaper than regular. |
| 18:34.49 | mindjuju | it's so funny you say that sunsparc, i remember paying .95 for gas |
| 18:34.58 | mindjuju | and some guy was saying that i was lying |
| 18:35.01 | SunSparc | Good times. |
| 18:35.29 | SunSparc | Actually, it got down to .99 only about 5 years ago or so, if I remember correctly. |
| 18:35.35 | mindjuju | so i gots a non-php question |
| 18:35.40 | mindjuju | see what kind of answers i get |
| 18:35.55 | mgeary | 47 |
| 18:36.11 | SunSparc | 42 |
| 18:36.13 | mindjuju | i got several big bushes that have mutated in my front yard |
| 18:36.27 | mindjuju | i think one may have been a rose bush |
| 18:36.36 | mindjuju | but it blossemed for like 2 minutes and shriveled and died |
| 18:36.40 | mindjuju | this is on my new house |
| 18:36.48 | mindjuju | so anyhow, i want them gone, cause they are a blight |
| 18:37.01 | mgeary | buy a pick |
| 18:37.07 | mindjuju | well, that's one way |
| 18:37.08 | mgeary | works great on bushes |
| 18:37.10 | DexterTheDragon | and a shovel |
| 18:37.21 | mindjuju | but what's to stop me from tying a chain to it and my jeep? |
| 18:37.26 | SunSparc | Gasoline and a lighter |
| 18:37.39 | mgeary | mindjuju: is there a sidewalk/driveway anywhere near this bush? |
| 18:37.46 | mindjuju | yup |
| 18:37.50 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc wins |
| 18:37.54 | mindjuju | 2 feet off from the street |
| 18:38.00 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: :) |
| 18:38.08 | orsonj | just announce a party where "something will be destroyed" tell them to bring tools they think will be needed. |
| 18:38.21 | mgeary | well, i don't know jack about these things, but i'd worry that if the roots went under the sidewalk, and you used a chain, you might rip up more than you expected |
| 18:38.34 | mgeary | you'd be surprised how fast a good pick will get out a rosebush |
| 18:38.59 | SunSparc | Just get one of these machines --> http://nacnud.com/area7/pics/awesomemachine.jpg |
| 18:39.28 | mindjuju | hmmm, that would stink if it got to damaging other stuff |
| 18:39.39 | DexterTheDragon | just saw the bush of at about ground level. then dig out the roots |
| 18:40.32 | mindjuju | hmmm, let's see, take mgeary / dexterthedragon 's prudent approach v Tim Allen approach |
| 18:41.10 | orsonj | Tim Allen +++++ |
| 18:41.13 | mgeary | granted, the chain option is probably more fun |
| 18:41.32 | mindjuju | well, if i do the tim allen way, i promise to set up a cam to record |
| 18:41.35 | mindjuju | and post to youtube |
| 18:41.53 | orsonj | of course there is a 1 in 10 chance it will actually suceed without damaging anything else |
| 18:42.06 | orsonj | and a 90% chance it will get the job done. |
| 18:42.38 | mindjuju | well, the only thing that stands between the bush and the car is a small retaining wall, that i could easily put back together |
| 18:42.39 | mgeary | and a 3% chance you'll do something to mess up your jeep |
| 18:42.51 | mindjuju | yeah, except it has a toe hitch |
| 18:42.58 | mindjuju | that's connected to frame, etc |
| 18:43.08 | mindjuju | surely a bush can't put up more of a fight than a trailer? |
| 18:43.22 | mgeary | okay, maybe .9% |
| 18:43.33 | mgeary | see "doesn't know jack" comment above ^^ |
| 18:43.50 | mindjuju | except that, mgeary, you're pretty level headed |
| 18:43.56 | mindjuju | so if you have pause for concern, i should too |
| 18:44.15 | mindjuju | i just don't want to waste a day digging up bushes |
| 18:44.24 | mgeary | how many bushes? |
| 18:44.43 | mindjuju | 2 mutated rose 2 something else that i haven't found online |
| 18:44.44 | mgeary | we dug out ~6 25-year-old rose bushes in about 45 minutes with a good pick and shovel |
| 18:44.48 | mindjuju | possibly some new speiecs |
| 18:44.58 | mgeary | and they had pretty deep, tangled roots |
| 18:45.13 | mgeary | but one good swing of the broad, sharp end of the pick will chop through most rose roots |
| 18:45.44 | mgeary | and the other pointed end is great for levering underneath roots, and then you just push the pick forward and it uproots 'em |
| 18:46.04 | mgeary | a pick is way better than a shovel for invasive landscaping |
| 18:46.37 | mindjuju | as close as we are to budget, i'd prolly better opt for safe route |
| 18:47.00 | SunSparc | I like using one of those heavy metal digging bars. |
| 18:47.15 | mgeary | SunSparc: yeah, those are good for prying, but not for slicing, no? |
| 18:47.38 | SunSparc | mgeary: right |
| 18:47.58 | DexterTheDragon | get a machete |
| 18:48.21 | SunSparc | Although, one end usually has a flat head that can do some slicing |
| 18:51.33 | mgeary | as i make various DNS records and changes, i reflect that hiring fungus to do some DNS consulting with us was a great idea |
| 18:52.30 | SunSparc | A DNS guru is good to have around. |
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| 19:00.54 | mindjuju | sup Lone_Wanderer |
| 19:01.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Just got off CQ recovery. I have an hour to get ready for class and instead of using it wisely I'm online chatting :D |
| 19:01.43 | thebigdog | hehe great |
| 19:01.48 | mindjuju | what's cq recovery? |
| 19:02.28 | Lone_Wanderer | CQ is where you sit at a desk and are basically the barracks secretary for 24 hours. |
| 19:02.47 | mindjuju | cool |
| 19:02.52 | Lone_Wanderer | CQ recovery is the next span of time until you have to go to school again. You don't have to do anything except sleep. |
| 19:02.53 | thebigdog | its retarded |
| 19:03.04 | Lone_Wanderer | what's retarded? |
| 19:03.53 | thebigdog | when they make you do that stuff |
| 19:04.21 | mindjuju | so i just took an office poll, do i pull out the bushes with a (strap / chain) or do i dig them out? 9 out of 10 polled (9 guys & 1 girl) said i should use my jeep in 4Lo to pull them out |
| 19:04.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, someone's got to do it. |
| 19:04.31 | mindjuju | what do you think Lone_Wanderer? |
| 19:04.43 | thebigdog | pull them with chain |
| 19:04.47 | thebigdog | in low |
| 19:04.52 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd dig until you're reasonably certain you can pull them out, then use the chain. |
| 19:05.18 | unum | make sure you use a good chain and get attached tight |
| 19:05.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Just kind of clear away the dirt so you can get a good solid connection. |
| 19:05.24 | unum | or you'll break something |
| 19:05.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, could be dangerous. |
| 19:05.51 | unum | I used to do it with my brother all the time(he's a landscape contractor) |
| 19:05.58 | SunSparc | Not to mention a chain lashing if it slips off. |
| 19:06.13 | unum | one time the chain broke, fortunatly all it did was ding up the tailgate |
| 19:06.38 | unum | sometimes he'd end up leaving four tire marks on the pavement... |
| 19:10.13 | thebigdog | dynamite is great too mindjuju |
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| 20:35.23 | thebigdog | anyone use a free desktop sharing application they recommend? |
| 20:35.53 | SunSparc | Client or server? |
| 20:36.11 | SunSparc | On the Mac I use Chicken of the VNC as a client. |
| 20:37.35 | mindjuju | why does Mac have the freakin' coolest sounding app names? |
| 20:38.00 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:38.33 | orsonj | because no developer wants to write the only mac app with a dumb sounding name |
| 20:39.56 | Utah_Dave | what did you have fungus do for you? |
| 20:40.01 | SunSparc | Well, there are probably Mac apps with dumb names but they are ostracized and never used but entirely to their lack of a cool name. |
| 20:40.02 | unum | we use tight vnc |
| 20:40.03 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: |
| 20:40.48 | mgeary | hey |
| 20:41.13 | mgeary | fungus helped me set up name services on a couple of my servers and gave me a high-level tutorial on how to manage them |
| 20:41.24 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 20:47.06 | unum | what program did he set up for your dns server? |
| 20:47.12 | mgeary | bind |
| 20:47.19 | mgeary | was already there, just not configured |
| 20:47.54 | mgeary | psh |
| 20:48.12 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:48.29 | SunSparc | Got something in your throat? |
| 20:48.34 | mgeary | ;) |
| 20:51.27 | mindjuju | hey, i've got a request to make 2800 copies of a CD I mastered, just some promo stuff we have to mail out |
| 20:51.44 | mindjuju | anybody know a company that can handle that large of an order and is pretty quick at fulfilling it? |
| 20:53.22 | jsmith | mindjuju: There are lots of CD duplication places in SLC |
| 20:53.37 | mindjuju | jsmith, any that you'd recommend? |
| 20:58.19 | mindjuju | anybody heard of one stop CD shop? |
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| 21:42.19 | mindjuju | freak, half the utah shops are out of business |
| 21:42.22 | mindjuju | or phone is old |
| 21:42.51 | SunSparc | CD's are so 20th Century. |
| 21:43.20 | mindjuju | :( |
| 21:44.30 | SunSparc | Here, try this one: http://hedgehogsolutions.com/page6.html |
| 21:44.43 | SunSparc | Ask for Curtis and tell him I sent you. |
| 21:46.33 | mindjuju | k, quick question |
| 21:46.47 | mindjuju | well, never mind, i'll call and ask them |
| 21:46.48 | SunSparc | ~seen brasto |
| 21:46.49 | jbot | brasto <n=Owner@71-219-128-178.slkc.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 5d 1h 21m 15s ago, saying: 'i do cli at times PoeticIntensity, but still like pma for some of its features'. |
| 21:46.52 | mindjuju | thx for phone num |
| 21:47.16 | SunSparc | mindjuju: no problem, good luck. |
| 22:00.12 | mindjuju | SunSparc - curiously enough, curtis doesn't work there anymore, according to the person who answered the phone, but i left the job info there anyways |
| 22:00.14 | mindjuju | thx for th ephone |
| 22:00.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Ok, I was not sure if he was still here or not. |
| 22:01.18 | SunSparc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.16 | mgeary | i've used hedgehog |
| 22:19.18 | mgeary | they're good |
| 22:19.28 | mgeary | we worked with... hmmm, started with a J |
| 22:19.38 | mgeary | Jared Lundquest |
| 22:19.42 | mgeary | 836-4384 |
| 22:20.04 | mgeary | but he may not be there any more either |
| 22:21.49 | beandog | mindjuju, ping |
| 22:33.24 | thebigdog | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 22:33.24 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 22:36.38 | thebigdog | unplugged |
| 23:00.05 | mgeary | ~lart customer support people who give my email address to customers, so they can contact the development staff directly |
| 23:00.05 | jbot | chops customer support people who give my email address to customers, so they can contact the development staff directly in half with a free AOL CD |
| 23:00.51 | beandog | how appropriate |
| 23:00.56 | beandog | so, what is your email address? |
| 23:01.12 | beandog | my printer isn't working |
| 23:02.26 | mgeary | me@thebigd0g.com |
| 23:02.37 | beandog | heh |
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| 23:33.19 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:33.26 | thebigdog | actually |
| 23:33.30 | thebigdog | me@thebigdog.tv |
| 23:33.38 | thebigdog | or my alias |
| 23:33.47 | thebigdog | thesezydog@thebigdog.tv |
| 23:34.21 | thebigdog | or me@thebigdog.mobi |
| 23:34.29 | thebigdog | cause i'm good like that |
| 23:35.56 | beandog | ~good |
| 23:40.04 | mgeary | ~karma thebigdog |
| 23:40.04 | jbot | thebigdog has karma of 5 |
| 23:40.07 | mgeary | wooooo |
| 23:40.10 | mgeary | check you out, 'dog |
| 23:40.18 | mgeary | been having some karma puddin' |
| 23:40.21 | thebigdog | yes i rock |
| 23:40.25 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 23:40.25 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 6 |
| 23:40.28 | mgeary | ah well |
| 23:40.31 | thebigdog | that is from helping people |
| 23:40.36 | mgeary | ~karma beandog |
| 23:40.36 | jbot | beandog has neutral karma |
| 23:40.52 | thebigdog | unlike the karma theives |
| 23:41.05 | mgeary | don't you mean karma pimps? |
| 23:41.16 | thebigdog | no |
| 23:41.30 | mgeary | ~steal thebigdog's karma |
| 23:41.30 | jbot | ACTION grabs thebigdog's karma and gives it to mgeary |
| 23:41.34 | mgeary | woot |
| 23:41.38 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 23:41.38 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 6 |
| 23:41.43 | mgeary | jbot, you suck |
| 23:41.43 | jbot | and very well I might add |
| 23:41.45 | beandog | someone stole my karma :C |
| 23:44.53 | beandog | now_playing[James Horner - Something Wicked This Way Comes - Main Title - A Rare Day For Boys] length[0:12/6:47] |
| 23:45.47 | beandog | my headphones really suck. |
| 23:53.47 | mgeary | http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/warrrepair2?openform |
| 23:54.00 | mgeary | i'm about to make use of Koss' replacement program with 2 more sets of headphones |
| 23:54.21 | mgeary | but hey, my overall investment is still waaaay shy of the $200+ that high-end headphones cost |
| 23:55.52 | mgeary | i just have 3 pretty decent $20 Koss headphones that last about a year, and when they break, i pay $6 and get 'em replaced |
| 23:56.03 | mgeary | i've replaced them all once now |
