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01:14.10mindjujuPoeticIntensity - what was that site that had all those FAIL ures?
01:21.21Utah_Davehttp://failblog.wordpress.com/
01:21.38mindjujuawesome!  thx utah_dave
01:21.44Utah_Davenp
01:21.50Utah_DaveI'm outa here
01:21.51Utah_Davelater
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14:26.00mindjujuwhere be timinator?
14:27.47mindjuju~APB herlo
14:27.47jbotACTION summons baby Lyssa to spray mace at herlo
14:33.57mindjujumacnewbold, you around?
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15:01.46macnewboldmindjuju: yeah, on a phone call for a sec
15:03.58timinator*yawn
15:04.33timinatorI'm curious.... how many people just yawned after seeing the word yawn??
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15:41.42mindjujumacnewbold, was just going to say that Beau Scott is the person presenting next Thursday
15:41.50mindjujuAMFPHP + flex
15:42.01mindjuju== hawt
15:46.52SunSparcI agree
16:05.24brastoAmerican Fork PHP?
16:05.26brastojk
16:14.22SunSparcYeah, it is a Mormon version of PHP.
16:14.41SunSparcNone of the smut that PHP usually has.
16:15.15DexterTheDragonPHP's just not worth it without the smut
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16:25.29DexterTheDragonsup swb
16:25.32mindjujuoh great, here is swb
16:25.55mindjuju:)
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16:28.54swbwhat?
16:29.45swbI called xmission today and they told me they don't have phone support for what I need
16:29.52swbI want them to install a pear package
16:29.55swbgrrr
16:30.45beandogjust include it yourself
16:31.42swbwell, I kinda want to set it up correctly
16:32.29swbplus, I wasn't exactly sure whether I needed ALL the pear files or where to put them
16:32.35swbam used to just having pear work
16:32.40beandogwell
16:32.52beandogall youre doing when you use pear anyway is say include 'DB.php'
16:32.59beandogso, technically, all that would change is the include path.
16:33.37beandogand, no, you dont need all of em.  Theres a few base packages
16:33.38beandogbut that's it.
16:33.40swbI'm using a different package, HTML_QuickForm
16:34.23swbwhich has a dependency for HTML_Common
16:34.49mgearyQuickForm++
16:34.49swbI'm just venting I guess
16:35.16swbI tried including the pear stuff manually before (but not very hard), will try again
16:35.35swbQuickForm is awesome
16:36.04swbI wrote a basic little spam score method to go with it and I love it
16:36.27swbanyways, what's new with you guys?
16:36.45mgearyyeah, i've got an ActiveRecord class with deep integration to QF, my forms get auto-generated
16:37.39swbpictures from event last week: http://flickr.com/photos/designsimply/sets/72157604891582963/
16:38.07DexterTheDragondoes anyone know of anything thats like QuickForms but isn't PEAR?
16:38.26mgearyhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2467006290_b2d59517d7_m.jpg <-- they misspelled "Nerd"
16:38.30swby, have something against pear?
16:38.44swbhehe
16:39.13DexterTheDragonyeah
16:39.23DexterTheDragonIts a bloated nightmare of code
16:39.29mgearyswb: have you played much with QF2?
16:39.37mgearyi've been meaning to tear into it, but haven't yet
16:39.54swbno, QF2 is for php5 yes? we're not on php5 yet
16:39.56swb:(
16:40.00mgearyewwwwww
16:40.12Utah_Davecool pictures, swb
16:40.20mgearyDexterTheDragon: actually, i find the pear stuff that i've worked with to be refreshingly OOP. Unlike *every freakin' other OSS php library*
16:40.20swbthnx Utah_Dave
16:40.41beandogmgeary, hear hear
16:40.45beandogoh, gosh, wordpress
16:41.11beandogany project where the last 12 releases have been "important security upgrades" is a sign to stay far away.
16:41.23swbor a sign of popularity
16:41.40mgearyand shudders again
16:41.44beandogswb, in this case, I'm really not exaggerating
16:41.48swbphpbb was *never* good... was it?
16:41.52beandog*every* release has been a security fix
16:41.57mindjujuwas going to say, i wouldn't want my code to be so deeply scrutinized as WP or anything else that is high profile
16:41.58beandogfor .... months
16:42.06mgearyswb: no
16:42.17beandogbesides, popular != insecure
16:42.31DexterTheDragonmgeary: I just find PEAR code to be bloated
16:42.32mindjujubeandog, no code can be perfect
16:42.34beandoganyway
16:42.40mindjujuthere will always be exploits possible
16:42.45swbI like the phrase, "refreshingly OOP"
16:42.47swblol
16:43.23beandogmindjuju, whatever, my code is t3h rawk.
16:43.32swbam picturing an orbitz (sp?) commercial
16:43.52mindjujuwell, let's see your code
16:44.14beandogmindjuju, sorry, its seekrit.
16:44.43beandogmindjuju, Ill show you the one thing I've put out for production release
16:44.45swbhttp://ihasahotdog.com/2008/04/01/funny-dog-pictures-takes-bullet-for-his-friend/
16:44.53beandogmindjuju, but its really, really, really tiny. :T
16:45.37beandoghttp://spaceparanoids.org/trac/bend/browser/mplayer-resume
16:46.14beandogdangit, I just found a bug.
16:46.41mindjuju:)
16:47.08mindjujutalk about a misleading headline, i was excited for a moment - http://digg.com/autos/First_Tesla_Flagship_Store_Opens_in_Los_Angeles?OTC-ig
16:47.17mindjujuabout to go to CA to see what for sale
16:48.11beandogroad trip!
16:48.16beandogbust out the Cheezits
16:48.36mindjujuyeah, but its about cars, didn't even know there was a car called Tesla
16:48.44mindjujuthought it was a shop that sold tesla coils and such
16:55.02PoeticIntensityyou kiddin' me, mindjuju ?
16:55.15PoeticIntensityThe Tesla seems to be a pretty sweet car...
16:55.17mindjujuhuh?
16:55.21PoeticIntensityisn't it 100% electric?
16:55.31mindjujuwhat?
16:55.40PoeticIntensity(Tesla)
16:55.51PoeticIntensityI've read a few articles on that...
16:56.04PoeticIntensityalso, for those of you interested on the topic of automobiles....
16:56.16mindjujuoh, yeah a tesla coil is a high frequency low voltage --> high voltage transformer
16:56.26PoeticIntensityright...
16:56.27mindjujuas far as i understand it
16:56.33PoeticIntensityI upgraded my Mustang... :)
16:56.36PoeticIntensityhttp://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3794&user=1
16:56.39mindjujuyeah, when you fire it up, it zaps all kinds of things
16:56.40PoeticIntensityagain.
16:57.09SunSparcOoooh, pretty blue tubing.
16:57.27PoeticIntensitytee hee....
16:58.09mindjuju;)
16:58.09PoeticIntensityLOL
16:58.13PoeticIntensitybring it, baby...
16:58.37PoeticIntensityLemme guess... the Audi R8
16:58.39josephscottdid I miss the wordpress grumbling?
16:58.41PoeticIntensityyup...
16:58.46PoeticIntensityjosephscott, yes.
16:58.47mgearyjosephscott: just a token nudge is all
16:58.51mindjujuPI - the race would have to be in 2 feet of snow
16:59.00PoeticIntensityhehe.....
16:59.07PoeticIntensityI hear beandog's ride can handle some deep snow now...
16:59.12mgearyWP is my poster child of OSS awful code, though it's certainly no worse than hundreds of other packages out there
16:59.16PoeticIntensityI don't understand why beandog doesn't talk about his ride much...
16:59.23PoeticIntensityHe's got a pretty quick car himself...
16:59.32beandogbut I'll kick your butt in a race.
16:59.49PoeticIntensityI'd *LOVE* to race you now...
16:59.55mgearybeandog: so is that the Chevy Astro, or the Dodge Caravan?
16:59.56beandogI raced an Elantra the other night
16:59.57josephscottmgeary: true, at least it works.  pretty painless to get a blog up and going
17:00.00beandogor I think that was it.
17:00.12beandogWe were going, ah ... fast, on I-15
17:00.12beandogtwas fun.
17:00.15mgearyjosephscott: yep. and that's worth a lot
17:00.25PoeticIntensityawesome, beandog...
17:00.32mgearyjosephscott: just don't get your hopes up that you could ever extend a class and tweak something ;)
17:00.33beandogmgeary, the Chevy Nova
17:00.43PoeticIntensityI got my first speeding ticket..
17:00.47PoeticIntensity(in my GT)
17:00.49josephscottmgeary: that's what the actions and filter system is fore
17:00.50beandogPoeticIntensity, buh
17:00.54beandog~speedy PoeticIntensity
17:00.58PoeticIntensityI was doing 86 in a 55...
17:01.08beandogwhere at?
17:01.10PoeticIntensity(and the cop only got me at about 3/4 of what I ended up doing..
17:01.13PoeticIntensitySpanish Fork
17:01.23PoeticIntensityI got up to 120 and then coasted down to 60.
17:01.46PoeticIntensitywhen the cop saw my record he cited me at 64....
17:01.54PoeticIntensityLOL
17:02.10mindjujunice guy
17:02.16PoeticIntensityjosephscott, I usually, only do crud like that when I'm the only one on the road...
17:02.16mindjujuit could have been much worse
17:02.22PoeticIntensitymindjuju, no doubt.
17:02.35PoeticIntensityI thanked him for it, actually...
17:02.37mindjujuin Texas, that's instant arrest, going 2(speedlimit)
17:02.52PoeticIntensitygoing 2?  or going 20?
17:02.57PoeticIntensityoh..
17:02.58josephscott2x
17:02.59PoeticIntensity2X
17:03.01PoeticIntensitygotcha.
17:03.03mindjujuyup
17:03.04PoeticIntensityfreak...
17:03.08PoeticIntensityI'd be in jail for sure...
17:03.23josephscottdoesn't Utah have private tracks where you can do that stuff?
17:03.23PoeticIntensityas I've got used to having my car, I've learned that speeding is an art...
17:03.32PoeticIntensityyeah, out in Tooele.
17:03.37PoeticIntensitypsh...
17:03.46PoeticIntensityI'd rather go out on the back-roads where nobody is and go fast...
17:03.53PoeticIntensityit's only like 10 minutes away, and it's free.
17:04.18PoeticIntensityspeeding on the freeway.....  that's a different story.
17:04.25PoeticIntensityI never liked it much.
17:04.27beandogI find its more fun to do 85 in the neighborhoods
17:04.33PoeticIntensitywith kids playing...
17:04.33beandogkeeps people on their toes.
17:04.42PoeticIntensityespecially the handicapped ones...
17:04.46beandogkids need to learn to use their reflexes anyway
17:04.47PoeticIntensity(ouch)
17:04.47beandogseriously
17:04.55beandogThey dont give them wheelchairs for nothing
17:04.57beandogmove, boy!
17:04.58beandog:)
17:05.15PoeticIntensitynah.... when I got my ticket, I was out in the boonies in Spanish Fork...  There wasn't anyone else on the road, except the cop, of course.
17:05.23PoeticIntensityLOL
17:05.26PoeticIntensityyou're hilarious, beandog
17:05.42josephscottyeah, that kind of negates your no one else on the road argument :-)
17:06.38mindjujureminds me of the time i was "relocating" road horses
17:06.58PoeticIntensitywha...?
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17:07.30mindjujuyou know, those things with the blinking lights
17:07.36mindjujutell you that road blocked off, etc
17:08.09PoeticIntensityah...
17:08.13PoeticIntensitytee hee.... nice.
17:08.26PoeticIntensityI just got done with "traffic school" yesterday...
17:08.34PoeticIntensityProvo now has an online course...
17:08.39PoeticIntensity3 hours of pain, baby.....
17:08.40mindjujudo they let you do the comedy one here in Utah?
17:08.40PoeticIntensity*ouch*
17:08.48PoeticIntensityhuh?
17:08.51PoeticIntensitycomedy?
17:08.51beandogonline traffic school?
17:08.52PoeticIntensityI wish...
17:08.53mindjujuguess not
17:08.54PoeticIntensityyeah
17:09.06PoeticIntensitythe last part of it was actually pretty informative...
17:09.10mindjujuin Houston, you can take your defense driving in a comedy club
17:09.13PoeticIntensitybut the first 1.5 hours was gruelling.
17:09.17mindjujuand have a comedian teach it
17:09.21PoeticIntensitywow!
17:09.24mindjujupay some extra $$, but good times
17:09.30PoeticIntensitythat might actually teach ya somethin'...
17:09.31beandogmindjuju, really?
17:09.34beandogthats awesome
17:09.34PoeticIntensitybeing entertained and all.
17:09.58mindjujuhit this
17:09.59mindjujuhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=defensive+driving+comedy
17:10.02mindjujulook at top link
17:10.30mindjujuTexas rox
17:11.06PoeticIntensityin-sane, buddy...
17:11.08PoeticIntensitywow.
17:11.27mindjujucan't beat this -->  Comedy Defensive Driving Courses: No Reading. No Writing. No Arithmetic. Just  comedy...and some of those crazy drivers-ed movies.
17:11.48beandogI love the movies
17:11.53PoeticIntensityand this is even better! -->  State Approved
17:11.53PoeticIntensityAccepted by all courts
17:11.53PoeticIntensityfor ticket dismissal.
17:12.13beandoghee hee
17:12.22beandogi can lolz my tikkits?
17:13.02mindjujufo sho
17:15.19fungusDefensive driving never made sense to me.  Why send me to DD, I am already an expert.  They should send the people I hit to DD to learn to defend against *me*.
17:16.41SunSparcI think all people should be required to learn the way the German's do and pass the same rigorous 6 month $5000 testing process in order to get a license to drive.
17:17.31beandogfungus, lol
17:18.03beandogSunSparc, I think part of the problem is that your driving test is a 30 second experience to see if you know how to use a blinker.
17:18.36SunSparcbeandog:  :)
17:27.02PoeticIntensityI think Utah Valley needs its own race-track...
17:28.46beandogit's called state street
17:28.48beandog:)
17:29.51wpsif I am comparing one unix timestamp against another to determine if the file was created less than twenty-four hours form the present, can I just compare the unix timestamps or do I have to convert them with date() first?
17:30.15SunSparcYou can just compare
17:30.21SunSparcThey are in seconds
17:30.30wpsah… that's the piece of the puzzle that I was looking for
17:30.38beandogso you could get the difference, in seconds, and convert that to h:m:s
17:30.45SunSparcThe unix timestamp is the number of seconds from the epoch
17:30.50SunSparcYep
17:31.11wpsso date(U) minus twenty-four hours worth of seconds would be twenty-four hours ago
17:31.23SunSparcYes
17:31.27wpsthanks
17:32.13wps86400 seconds in twenty-four hours
17:32.24wps60 sec * 60 min * 24 hours
17:32.29SunSparcYep
17:35.13wpswe won't be using computers by then
17:35.39orsonjyep, humanity will have destroyed itself by then
17:35.48josephscottthat's what they thought about the year 2000 :-)
17:36.00wpsand Merrill Cook will still be running for office
17:36.11orsonj64 bit computers push that back several hundred years though.
17:37.38SunSparcThat is, service pack 2038.
17:37.40orsonjjust use linux until windows catches up ;)
17:38.24mindjujutalking about Microsoft, it is so interesting to see Yahoo back peddle and say they didn't mean to scare microsoft away, just holding out for more money
17:38.34mindjujui wonder if that is to protect themselves from the stockholders
17:39.21wpsI don't understand why people think Yahoo is worth that much
17:39.25SunSparcIt would be cool if Yahoo! and Google would team up
17:39.49SunSparcwps: It is just because they have flickr
17:40.23wpshmm… I guess some people value that
17:40.27wpsin my mind…
17:40.32wpsyahoo == netscape == aol
17:40.50wpssurprised they are still even around
17:40.59wpsI think of 1990's when I hear yahoo
17:42.07josephscottyahoo had a net revenue of more than 200 million for the final quarter of 2007, hardly a company that needs to be sold
17:42.10SunSparcApparently, a lot of people still use Yahoo as their portal.
17:42.42josephscotttheir email service is bigger than any other last time I looked
17:43.05beandogI just started  using search.yahoo.com the other day
17:43.07beandogits kinda nice.
17:43.21beandogplus, I couldnt hit Google for some reason.
17:44.08SunSparcLooks like they copied Google's look and feel.
17:44.27beandogI'm all about the mininmal approach
17:44.34beandogsure beats yahoo.com with its ads
17:45.48mindjujuhate yahoo front page with the big flash ads
17:46.01beandog~flash mindjuju
17:46.02jbotACTION starts a firmware update on mindjuju, then pulls the plug halfway through
17:46.14josephscottyahoo and google are so far ahead of everyone else it's insane
17:46.14josephscotthttp://www.quantcast.com/top-sites-1
17:47.15mindjujuit's funny you say that
17:47.32mindjujui remember a few months back, some new search engine that was supposedly a "google killer"
17:47.39mindjuju<PROTECTED>
17:47.41mindjujusomething like that
17:47.46beandogcha-ching?
17:47.51wpschacha.com
17:48.10beandogheh
17:48.13wpsthey have a free text message service
17:48.14wpsit's awesome
17:48.17beandogI love how they screwed up the SSL cert.
17:48.24wpsyeah
17:48.41wpsyou call an 800 number or send a text message and they have live people that look up the answer and send it back via a text message
17:48.56mindjujuhey, they are going to let me ask a question online
17:49.04mindjujulet's think up a hard PHP question and see what they say
17:49.30josephscottthere are no hard PHP questions :-)
17:49.47mindjuju:)
17:49.49beandogI've got a hard php question
17:49.55mindjujuk
17:50.06beandogHow do I get a CLI php script to accept and read input from realtime
17:50.22beandog(which is something I really do need to accomplish)
17:50.46mindjujuthat's weird, now they want my cell phone num
17:51.05beandog867-5309
17:51.16mindjujuyeah, ask for Jenny
17:51.41SunSparclol
18:03.00wpswill there be any problems if I mkdir() and it already exists? or do I need to check if the dir exists first?
18:03.25SunSparcIt will complain
18:03.36SunSparcIt will say that it already exists
18:03.42wpsk
18:03.47wpsI check exists first
18:04.24wpss/I/I'll/
18:06.51beandogjust do @mkdir
18:06.56beandogand go on your merry way
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18:07.17beandoger, of course, then you'd have problems if it failed making the directory.
18:07.43zomgoblinzis it more of a pain to have a remote mysql db than local?
18:07.46zomgoblinzphp wise
18:07.56wpsno
18:08.20zomgoblinzjust the host needs to be changed right?
18:08.39wpsyes
18:08.57SunSparcThe database needs to accept a remote connection and you need to specify the host instead of localhost.
18:10.01zomgoblinzthanks :)
18:11.15SunSparcMySQL does not have SSL enabled by default, from what I understand.  So if you are working remotely, make sure the data you are transmitting is not sensitive or that it is encrypted some way.
18:15.43fungusSSL is really only important if the mysql connecting is crossing the internet.  If it's on a local LAN, it's not that important.
18:16.05SunSparcCorrect, hence the advice.
18:16.36SunSparcI was making the assumption that zomgoblinz was crossing the intarweb.
18:17.18SunSparcThere you go zomgoblinz two distinct possibilities.
18:18.33beandogSunSparc, *support* for mysql is usually disabled by default, but no, it wont use SSL by default.  You have to generate CA, client and server certs (royal pain)
18:18.35beandog<PROTECTED>
18:18.37mgearyroyal pains--
18:18.41beandoggeez
18:18.46beandogI totally said that whole first part wrong
18:19.07SunSparc~cookie beandog
18:19.18beandoghee hee hee
18:19.33SunSparc:)
18:19.55fungus~prariedog
18:19.57beandog~fail jbot
18:19.58jbotjbot, you Fail!
18:21.10mgearyanyone have any advice on troubleshooting Segmentation faults in PHP? :/
18:21.35beandogyou got a segfault?
18:21.36beandogevil.
18:21.47SunSparcmgeary: how did you do that?
18:21.49mgearyyeah. happens pretty consistently
18:21.55mgearyrunning a bunch of auth.net transactions
18:23.08mgearydoing one at a time seems to be fine, but batching 40 or more seems to produce them pretty regularly
18:24.08SunSparcSounds like a bug.
18:24.18mgearyyeah, but *where* ? :/
18:24.24SunSparcIs the system decent?
18:24.28mgearyyeah
18:24.29SunSparcI would think memory
18:24.43SunSparcMemory overload perhaps?
18:25.04mgearypossibly. *pulls out xdebug*
18:25.06SunSparcYou say it is reproducible?
18:25.35mgearynot 100%
18:25.42mgearyabout 80%
18:26.09beandogmgeary, my first guess would be memory issues
18:26.11SunSparcMight be worth venturing into ##php
18:26.33mgearythem's treacherous waters
18:26.39SunSparcagreed
18:26.44SunSparcTake some armor with you
18:27.03SunSparcHehe, they have just under 700 members online currently
18:28.18mindjujuZOINKS!
18:28.50mindjujuwhen ya'll mentioned ##php, it reminded me of #phpwomen -- so i go and check up on them... there be 30 w0menz in #phpwomen !
18:28.59beandogmgeary, I'd look to see how much memory is being allocated as it keeps looping
18:29.03mgearydoing that now
18:29.14beandogwhen I have segfaults, thats normally the cause.
18:29.19mindjujuwe should go raid the #phpwomen channel
18:29.26beandogI'm not freeing up variables
18:30.17SunSparcPHP women are a bit of an anomaly.
18:30.37mindjujuwe should con swb to go in there and do some recon for us
18:30.54SunSparcbeandog: hehe, that would be cool
18:31.51SunSparcOr you could load up a web irc tool and go in dressed as a f3m@73.
18:32.09mgearywoot.
18:32.18SunSparcmgeary: you find something?
18:32.30SunSparcouch
18:32.42mgearyanyone want to predict the # of lines?
18:32.44brasto~lart people who do <p>&nbsp;</p>
18:32.44jboteats people who do <p>&nbsp;</p>'s liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
18:32.57mgearyi'm guessing about 800k
18:33.24SunSparcat 15mb, I would say close to a million
18:33.37SunSparcUnless they are long lines
18:33.38mindjuju800k is close to a million
18:33.39beandogwhat is a chianti?
18:33.44beandoga wine or something?
18:33.47mgearyyeah
18:33.49brastogood question
18:33.53brasto~chianti
18:33.54beandogoh okay
18:33.59beandogfor some reason I thought it was lingerie
18:34.00mindjujuit's a drink
18:34.08fungusIt's a type of wine
18:34.09mindjujuwell, a wine AFAIK
18:34.13brastolol
18:34.23mindjujuand that is a quote from Silence of the Lambs
18:34.25SunSparcbrasto:<p>&nbsp;</p>why<p>&nbsp;</p>do<p>&nbsp;</p>you<p>&nbsp;</p>hate<p>&nbsp;</p>?
18:34.35mgearypft
18:34.42mgearyonly 143k lines
18:35.06SunSparcHmmm, must be some long lines in thar.
18:35.50mgearyonly using 4.9 megs at time of fault
18:35.53mgeary(of memory)
18:36.26brastolol, SunSparc
18:36.38SunSparcmgeary: do you have another system you can test it on?
18:36.42SunSparcbrasto: :)
18:38.03SunSparcOh, I found the other search engine that I was thinking of back when we were discussing Yahoo!
18:38.03SunSparchttp://beta.searchme.com
18:38.36mgearyweird
18:39.06funguseek, that is scary stuff
18:39.17wpsthe interesting thing about that is that although it's cool looking, I usually don't care what a website looks like when I am searching… most of the time I am looking for content (text matches)
18:40.38mgearySunSparc: check this out:
18:40.41mgearyhttp://dpaste.com/48721/
18:40.42SunSparcYeah, and what if the site is questionable.  Not sure I want to see the sites before I know what they are.
18:40.51wpsexactly
18:41.24SunSparcmgeary: Nice.  That is a lot of tedious reduncancy.
18:41.25mgearyhttp://dpaste.com/48722/ <-- the first 2 lines of that are 116 and 117
18:41.31mgearySunSparc: but it's not
18:41.39mgearyi think there may be a bug in substr_count
18:42.10mgearysee how the interpreter is bouncing back and forth between 116 and 117? The code doesn't tell it to do that
18:42.28SunSparcYeah, multiple times a second
18:43.21SunSparcAre you going to modify line 117 to test it?
18:43.26mgearyyeah
18:44.31mgearyah
18:44.54mgearyactually, that's functioning properly.
18:47.15mgearythe last command that gets run before the segfault is fetch_array on a mysqli object
18:58.46mgearyon a related note, anyone know what "zend_mm_heap corrupted" means? google has a bunch of hits, but nothing jumps out as being useful
19:02.27SunSparcagain, heaps usually refer to memory
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19:13.35mgearyinteresting
19:13.59mgearymy segfault or heap corruption appears to happen at the *end* of the script.
19:17.50mindjuju~apb poeticintensity
19:17.51jbotACTION hires Dog the Bounty Hunter to rough up poeticintensity
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19:30.18mgearynot....THE nei_rauni...?!
19:30.42nei_raunihi
19:30.49mgeary;)
19:36.10nei_raunimgeary: what?
19:36.29mgearyjust giving ya crap
19:36.37mgearywelcome to the group
19:39.02wpsjbot, kiss nei_rauni
19:39.03jbotACTION forces nei_rauni to give beandog a big kiss on the hand
19:39.10wpsweird
19:39.53nei_raunihehe, i'm brazilian
19:39.53beandogo.O
19:40.09mgearyyeah, wps, so the kiss goes on the cheeks, not the hand
19:40.10wpsyou in Utah?
19:42.10mindjujubeandog, you still around?
19:42.21beandogsi
19:42.59PoeticIntensityyo, mindjuju
19:43.01PoeticIntensitywassup?
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20:18.12mindjuju~flip thebigdog
20:18.13jbotACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|.
20:18.29thebigdogty mindjuju
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20:29.32beandognow_playing[Limahl - The Never Ending Story - Never Ending Story] length[0:51/3:34]
20:32.04thebigdogbeandog and mgeary sometimes i wonder what you are thinking when you pick your songs
20:32.34beandogwhat makes you say that
20:32.48beandogmost of my music is soundtracks / scores
20:35.25thebigdognever end story
20:35.26thebigdog?
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20:35.41thebigdogi never knew they had the sound track
20:35.50beandogthebigdog, was oop / htf for a while
20:38.36SunSparc"This is the story that never ends, it goes on and on ... "
20:38.55mindjujuthe book was so much better than the movie
20:39.20thebigdogyes it was mindjuju
20:39.23SunSparcNaturally
20:44.15thebigdogSunSparc, pandora rocks
20:44.20thebigdogi love that site
20:44.30thebigdoggreat way to find new music too
20:44.31SunSparcthebigdog: Indeed it does.  I also love it.
20:44.50mindjujupandora == evil
20:45.03SunSparcFortunately, or unfortunately, yes, I find much new music.  My poor bank account.
20:45.05SunSparc:)
20:45.21SunSparcmindjuju: Are you still upset that Pandora reads your mind?
20:45.28mindjujuyup
20:46.49beandogoh that reminds me, new music on magnatune newsletter
20:53.04beandoghttp://magnatune.com/artists/albums/wamsley-curve/
20:53.10beandogintresting
21:07.35mindjujuk, ravetrax.com is playing some freakin' hawt stuff
21:11.18SunSparcNice try.  That is very tempting, but Pandora has me firmly in her clutches today.
21:11.42mindjujumust try to break away from Pandora
21:12.03SunSparcBUT SHE LOVES ME!!!  She knows me so well!
21:12.30mgearyif i could find music i liked that i didn't have, i'd be tempted
21:13.23SunSparcmgeary: I listen to Pandora because of the service, not because I do not already have the music.
21:13.45mgearyi don't wonder why other's use it. i wonder why the riaa hasn't shut them down
21:13.51mgearys/other's/others
21:13.52SunSparcAlthough much of it I do not and then I add that to my shopping cart on iTunes.
21:14.25SunSparcAh, yeah, good point.  They are following "radio" broadcasting guidelines.
21:14.55SunSparcWith a tunamelt bomb
21:16.03mindjujui love how the RIAA is now being sued by the artists for collecting money (for those poor starving artists) and forgetting to actually send them any money
21:16.44SunSparcReally?!
21:16.47SunSparcSweet!
21:16.52SunSparcDie RIAA Die!
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21:17.14SunSparcI make it a point to pay for the music I have.
21:17.24SunSparcI believe in capitalism.
21:17.32TrevynAnyone know how to let php look for GET parameters delimited by ; as was as &
21:18.07mindjujusunsparc - http://digg.com/tech_news/RIAA_Keeps_Settlement_Money_Artists_May_Sue
21:18.09SunSparcTrevyn: How do you mean?
21:18.28mgearyTrevyn: that's apache, not PHP, parsing the &
21:18.35Trevyngoogle.com?q=test;lang=en
21:18.41Trevynok
21:18.44mgearygoogle is manually parsing that out
21:18.48Trevynhttpd.conf?
21:18.54mgearyno, you'd do it in your code
21:19.01mgearyin that example--
21:19.06SunSparcmindjuju: Nice
21:19.18mgeary$q_val_str = $_GET["q"];
21:19.33mgeary$q_values = explode(";",$q_val_str);
21:19.45Trevynok Ill do it that way thanks
21:19.49mgearythen you'd have to go through each set and explode again by =
21:20.00mgearysomething like that, anyway
21:21.31TrevynEditing php.ini  arg_separator.output = ";"
21:23.14TrevynPWNED
21:23.16TrevynJK
21:26.51SunSparcYeah, that would be a funny trick to play on someone.
21:29.09TrevynBoo
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21:30.18SunSparcEh?
21:32.48mgearyhuh
21:32.58mgearyjust as well, i suppose
21:35.25beandogbeans, beans, the magic fruit
21:36.11beandogeat too much, they make you too
21:36.12beandoger
21:36.13beandogtoot
21:36.14beandogfail.
21:36.17mgearylegume
21:36.30SunSparcI love beans
21:46.28dataw0lfAnyone interested in applying for a web dev job and/or a web producer job in Reno?
21:46.39dataw0lf50/55k for web dev, unsure about web producer.
21:47.26dataw0lffly you out for the interview
21:48.34SunSparcI never work for so little.  Except once, and that was a noble cause.
21:53.35dataw0lfMe neither, but this is a fairly junior position.
21:53.47dataw0lfand you'll get to learn/use Python/Ruby.
21:53.49SunSparcHow is the weather over there today, anyway?
21:53.58dataw0lflooked like it was going to storm earlier
21:54.13SunSparcWe are getting some rain right now here.
21:54.25dataw0lfyea it usually just flies over us and hits you guys.
21:57.53mgearycan people confirm that Westhost.com is down?
21:58.13dataw0lfyes
22:02.17mgearyanyone confirm that godaddy.com is down?
22:03.50jsmith-teachingmgeary: Not down for me
22:04.02thebigdogworking for me
22:04.05mgearyweird
22:04.09mgearyanyone else on xmission?
22:04.16thebigdogdanica is there
22:04.17mgearyi get:
22:04.21mgearyMicrosoft VBScript runtime error '800a01b6'
22:04.21mgearyObject doesn't support this property or method: 'ipLookup.getCountryByIP'
22:04.32thebigdoghaha...stupid ms
22:04.36mgearytotally
22:04.49thebigdogthat be godaddy
22:05.01thebigdognot sure it would be with xm
22:05.34mgearybut if someone else here on xm CAN hit it, it suggests something weird
22:06.28wpsI love rain
22:06.29thebigdoglet me check
22:08.21thebigdogworks for me on xm
22:08.34thebigdogmgeary, which browser you using? ff
22:08.42mgearytried it on FF and Safari
22:08.52thebigdogsame issue?
22:08.57mgearyyup
22:27.04mgearyanyone know where in GoDaddy to get a domain security code?
22:27.53SunSparcmgeary: It has been a while.
22:28.02SunSparcIt is also called an "auth code"
22:28.32mgearyah
22:28.33mgearyfound it
22:42.38mgearywps: hey
22:42.51mgearywhat's that designer-centric irc room you sit on?
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22:56.37timinatorgotta run.... later guys
23:07.06SunSparcmgeary:  wps is currently on #omniture, #ugaf, #byumug, #utah, #UPHPU
23:07.17mgearythat's it. ugaf
23:08.01mgearyappears to not have much traction, though
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23:15.21SunSparcMaybe they all go home early.
23:18.44wpsit's #ugaf, but no one hangs in there
23:18.53wpsI keep it open though in the homes that people will come someday
23:20.43thebigdoghehe
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