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02:54.17abc2hi
02:56.45Utah_Davehey
02:56.49abc2hello :)
02:56.56abc2i have a question dunno if u can help?
02:57.13Utah_Daveyeah, hold on just a minute. I'll be right back
02:57.18abc2ok
03:02.16Utah_Dave<PROTECTED>
03:02.25Utah_Davewhat's your question? Hopefully I can help
03:02.34abc2cool ok
03:02.46abc2well i want to install the pspell module for php
03:02.54abc2on linux
03:03.16abc2u know anything abuot that? :)
03:03.41Utah_Davewhat version of linux?
03:04.15abc2centos 5
03:04.23abc2and using php 5.25
03:04.46abc2i've managed to install aspell using yum
03:04.52Utah_Daveare you sure it's not already enabled?
03:04.56abc2but just need the php module
03:05.03Utah_Davetry "yum install php-pspell"
03:05.11abc2yeah i'm sure cos i checked in phpinfo
03:05.15abc2ill try that
03:05.23abc2would that make the php module?
03:05.27Utah_Daveyeah
03:05.37Utah_Daveplus you might need to enable it in your php.ini
03:06.01Utah_Daveusually there are a bunch of modules that are commented out in your php.ini
03:06.02abc2yeah i can edit the php.ini
03:06.12Utah_Davethen you'd have to restart apache
03:07.02abc2yeah
03:07.13abc2what folder wud it put the files so i can check?
03:08.10Utah_Davetry   /etc/php.ini
03:08.36Utah_DaveIs this your own machine or a web host?
03:08.55abc2oh i mean where would it put php_pspell.so
03:09.22abc2well i do some web design on the machine
03:09.31abc2yep
03:10.36abc2i mean what would the pspell files be called so i can search for them?
03:11.02Utah_DaveI'm not sure.
03:11.10Utah_Davetype " whereis pspell"
03:11.31abc2ah it isnt anywhere
03:11.40abc2damn it sounded like a good plan though :)
03:11.53Utah_Davehopefully you just have to uncomment the php_pspell.so in your php.ini
03:12.14abc2well in my php.ini it has the dll endings there
03:12.17Utah_DaveFrom what I'm reading you're supposed to install aspell and then use the pspell functions to access it
03:12.27Utah_Davereally?
03:12.30abc2yes i've installed aspell correctly
03:12.37abc2aspell works :)
03:12.45abc2but i cant get a module in php?
03:12.57abc2driving me crazy lol
03:13.01Utah_Daveok, well, in the php docs the aspell developer says that's what you use
03:13.09abc2yes thats right
03:13.11Utah_Daveyou use the pspell functions, which use aspell
03:13.27abc2but i can't use the pspell commands without php_pspell.so
03:13.50abc2yeah you are right i wud use those commands
03:15.09abc2do you think i did the yum install bit wrong?
03:15.33Utah_Davehave you tried using the pspell functions yet?
03:16.23abc2yeah it cant do them
03:16.37Utah_Davewhat's the error you get?
03:16.52abc2undefined function
03:17.05abc2also the module is not loaded in 'phpinfo'
03:17.52abc2i mean there is no module extension
03:17.57abc2lol
03:18.01Utah_Davewhat do you get when you type "yum search pspell" ?
03:19.12abc2it tells me about a thing called gnome spell??
03:19.54abc2oh i see why it tells me - it says that gnome spell requires pspell lol
03:20.00abc2which isnt there
03:20.22Utah_Davedid you uncomment the line with pspell in your php.ini?
03:20.36abc2ah well there isnt a line
03:21.12abc2the lines have 'dlls' but i cant even find php_pspell.so on the server
03:21.22abc2it needs that file
03:21.25abc2hmm
03:21.45Utah_Davelook at phpinfo and see where it says your php.ini is
03:21.54Utah_Davejust to make sure you're looking at the correct one
03:22.42abc2its the one from directadmin
03:23.23abc2usr/local/lib/php.ini
03:23.53Utah_Daveso you edited that file, right?
03:25.08abc2im not sure it work without the file
03:25.26abc2should i try it anyway?
03:26.29abc2well it still says undefined function now..
03:27.13abc2cant beleive its this hard to get it working
03:27.39Utah_DaveYeah, I've never used pspell before and I don't have a centos box handy
03:28.23abc2damn well you gave some good suggestions though thanks :)
03:29.01wpsabc2: note that this is a G-rated channel. Thanks.
03:29.10abc2g-rated?
03:29.14wpsyes
03:29.19abc2what does that mean
03:29.25wps(no profanity)
03:29.35abc2i didnt say anything bad did i?
03:30.04abc2i just said i'm glad he gave some good suggestions
03:30.32wpsfour letter expletives
03:31.04abc2well terribly sorry
03:31.15abc2you mean for saying damn?
03:31.39abc2sorry about that, didn't mean to offend you :)
03:31.39zomgoblinz_is damn a cuss word?
03:31.44zomgoblinz_they say ass on tv tho
03:31.49zomgoblinz_us tv
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03:32.07wpsI know you didn't intentionally
03:32.14wpswe're glad to have you here
03:32.19abc2thanks
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03:32.37zomgoblinz_im glad I didnt quote what they say on pay per view :)
03:32.43wpsme too
03:33.04abc2well im not sure how else to express myself i thought 'dam' was harmless liek saying oh blimey
03:33.22zomgoblinz_blimey is a cuss word in ireland
03:33.29abc2lol
03:33.33Utah_Davemaybe it sounds more harsh here in Utah than in the UK
03:33.35wpswell, that's sad if you don't know how to express yourself without profanity
03:33.36Utah_Dave:)
03:33.42abc2really??
03:33.49abc2it means nothing in the uk
03:34.07zomgoblinz_wps, I am in the Army and I honestly do not know how
03:34.14zomgoblinz_although 10% of the time I manage
03:34.17wpsthat's ad
03:34.20wpss/ad/sad/
03:34.31abc2no i mean is damn a bad word over there?
03:34.42zomgoblinz_it can be
03:34.48wpsabc2: I really don't want to keep reading that word
03:34.49zomgoblinz_depending on who you are
03:34.55wpsplease refrain
03:34.56abc2sorry!
03:35.02abc2im just surprised
03:35.32Utah_Daveabc2: yeah, it's a bad word here.
03:35.43abc2you're pulling my leg right?
03:35.47abc2lol
03:35.50Utah_Davenope
03:35.51Utah_Dave:)
03:36.04zomgoblinz_this reminds of the lessons in capitalization that I also won't quote
03:36.05zomgoblinz_:)
03:36.11wpswe should ask jbot
03:36.12wps~cuss
03:36.30zomgoblinz_hmm
03:36.44wpswhere is that guy?
03:36.52abc2oh well i meant 'how unfortunate' that it didn't work
03:36.53wpsjbot, what is a cuss word?
03:36.53jbotACTION is a cuss word to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
03:37.13abc2wish there were a shorter way of saying it
03:37.24abc2but thanks for being helpful anyway
03:37.44abc2:)
03:37.44zomgoblinz_jbot, is "help" a cuss word?
03:37.55wpsjbot, are you breathing?
03:38.05wpsjbot, die
03:38.05jbotACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
03:38.15wpsthat ends that
03:38.55zomgoblinz_violent :(
03:38.59abc2utah-dave: do u know where i might look to find out more?
03:39.13abc2i mean about the php module :)
03:39.28Utah_Daveabc2: I've googled around a bit, let me look at a couple of pages I found
03:39.58abc2i can say 'oh dear' cant i? :)
03:40.05abc2i mean instead
03:40.54wpsyes, abc2 :)
03:41.11abc2phew, was begining to think it was a bit strict in here
03:41.31wpsno… most things go… we get really nasty into politics even
03:41.46abc2ok
03:41.48wpswe just don't like the ugly words
03:42.09abc2oh it really doesnt mean that over here
03:42.15abc2its liek saying 'oh dear'
03:42.28Utah_Daveabc2: Here's an example just using aspell, but it's not real elegant because jumps out to the shell
03:42.29Utah_Davehttp://chxo.com/scripts/spellcheck.php?showsource=1#source
03:43.10abc2ah is that using exec?
03:43.44abc2that's a good find though
03:44.51Utah_Daveabc2: yeah
03:45.09Utah_Davedid you compile apache yourself? or did you use yum?
03:45.10abc2i have made some exec calls and they do work
03:45.29abc2oh it was compiled for me, i rent the server
03:45.44abc2i tried asking the server admin but they dont know how
03:46.55Utah_Daveaccording to: http://www.alt-php-faq.org/local/59/
03:47.12Utah_Daveit looks like you have to recompile php with  --with-pspell
03:47.13abc2i found this
03:47.15abc2http://www.johnvey.com/blog/2006/05/how-to-create-php-extensions-aka-so-objects
03:47.34abc2ah yes well you can recompile - but im not sure how to do that
03:47.47abc2would that mean the server goes down for a bit?
03:48.00Utah_Davenope
03:48.05Utah_Davethat looks pretty cool.
03:48.17Utah_Davethat might do it for you
03:48.17abc2yeah it does look cool, but i can't get it to work lol
03:48.33abc2i can get quite far in it but it won't do the 'make' command
03:48.52Utah_Daveyou might not have rights to on your rented server
03:49.00abc2i have root access
03:49.04Utah_Davehey, doesn't Google have a spellchecking api?
03:49.19abc2how do u mean?
03:49.20Utah_DaveI think they do, maybe you could just make a call to their service
03:49.38abc2how does that work?
03:50.47abc2well yeah now thats an interesting idea
03:51.48Utah_DaveI'm looking it up right now
03:52.04Utah_Davehttp://code.google.com/apis/soapsearch/reference.html#1_3
03:52.26Utah_Davehttp://www.dotnetjunkies.ddj.com/Article/C333976F-1EA4-42C1-BFEE-63F3C09CD94B.dcik
03:52.39Utah_DaveIf you can't get it working on your server, that might work for you
03:52.44abc2ah yes trouble with that is its limited to 10 words
03:52.53abc2but thats an interesting back up idea
03:53.04Utah_Daveoh, I didn't realize that
03:53.27Utah_Davewell, I guess that first example where you use exec to get to the shell and use aspell will probably work
03:53.34abc2yeah
03:53.40abc2ok well thanks for your help :)
03:54.03Utah_Daveno problem.
03:54.08Utah_DaveWish I could have been more help
03:54.23Utah_DaveWhat time is it over there right now? Pulling an all nighter?
03:54.34abc2i think youve been mroe helpful that i expected i couldnt really find any answers anywhere
03:54.48abc2yeah i dont really sleep :) lol
03:55.23abc2but i probably ought to go soon it's getting light outside
03:55.52Utah_DaveWell, you're welcome. It's kind of late here, but usually there are a lot of great developers in here that are willing to help
03:56.02abc2yeah taht's cool :)
03:56.42abc2its good to at least talk about - i might have been missing something really obvious
03:57.08abc2think i need to learn some more linux commands
03:57.28abc2still feel a bit nervous typing them in incase it brings the server down
03:57.30abc2lol
03:58.04Utah_Dave:)
03:58.21abc2would a recompile of php - i mean what does that do
03:58.40abc2like i don't want to break it , but it does seem like php.net's answer
03:59.00abc2does recompile just add things in?
04:00.36Utah_Davewell, when you recompile you get to tell the compile which options you want compiled in
04:00.45abc2yes
04:01.02Utah_DaveI've always managed to avoid recompiling, unfortunately
04:01.20abc2yeah tahts what im trying to do, avoid recompiling lol
04:01.29abc2well anyway
04:01.34abc2i got to go
04:01.39abc2thanks for your help :)
04:02.28Utah_Daveyou're welcome.  Good luck!
04:02.52abc2thanks :) cya
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06:04.57jnbekrun php on FreeBSD, it's the easiest, you just run make config install clean in the /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions directory and it adds the feature :-P
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