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| 00:28.37 | mgeary_ | how'd it taste, jsmith ? |
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| 00:30.33 | jsmith | mgeary: D-licious! |
| 00:30.53 | jsmith | mgeary: There's a reason I'm gaining weight at a tremendous rate -- my wife is a wonderful cook. |
| 00:31.05 | mgeary | nice |
| 00:31.15 | mgeary | my wife is as well, but i'm blessed with a wacky metabolism |
| 00:31.30 | mgeary | haven't moved more than 4 pounds in either direction from 150lbs in 15 years |
| 00:32.17 | jsmith | Wow... I remember when my metabolism was like that... I could eat five meals a day or one meal a day, and my weight wouldn't change |
| 00:32.27 | jsmith | Now, it goes up and won't come back down |
| 00:33.44 | mgeary | yeah, i'm just waiting for the day |
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| 01:38.32 | burnin | the only bad that comes with indie music is entering all the track info when ripping CDs cause nobody else has uploaded the track info to a cddb. |
| 01:38.58 | orsonj | yep |
| 01:39.36 | burnin | now I'm wondering if sound juicer is uploading my work :) |
| 01:39.46 | burnin | at the same time? |
| 01:40.09 | orsonj | It is annoying to take twice the time to rip a cd when it takes just as long to enter the info as it does to rip the cd |
| 01:40.25 | orsonj | yep, at the same time would be very nice. |
| 01:41.17 | burnin | no go :) |
| 01:41.30 | burnin | once the rip start can't do it |
| 01:41.31 | orsonj | Click rip, start typing, already ripped files would have their metadata/names changed to reflect updated info as it rips. |
| 01:41.44 | orsonj | but, I haven't found anything that will do that yet. |
| 01:42.09 | burnin | but I'm pretty sure you can edit the track info post rip, but don't know if anyone has written a nice gui utility. |
| 01:42.35 | orsonj | I think there are some half decent gui's, but using the same one would be nice. |
| 01:42.50 | burnin | course you would have to be editing pretty quick to ensure you are labeling the correct unknown title/track files :) |
| 01:44.23 | orsonj | I'm thinking it needs the ability to edit the title/track data before, during and after ripping. |
| 01:45.14 | burnin | what we need to do is just get more people listening to indie, then we can be lazy and not enter anything. :) |
| 01:45.30 | orsonj | :) |
| 01:45.57 | burnin | so far its maybe 70/30 here, 70% I have to enter, 30% I'm pleasantly surprised and I can be lazy |
| 01:46.21 | burnin | on the indie stuff anyhow |
| 01:47.18 | jsmith | orsonj: I'm pretty sure I could do it in grip... but I haven't done it in a couple of years |
| 01:47.19 | burnin | had to enter H.A.G., songs from the pus cavern, but Munk, Anime Sweetheart was in the database |
| 01:49.35 | burnin | H.A.G. has a nice blues sound |
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| 03:51.27 | influx^^ | hello? |
| 03:54.10 | beandog | buenas nachos |
| 03:54.24 | influx^^ | Herro, beandog. |
| 03:54.32 | beandog | wazzup |
| 03:54.47 | beandog | man its a beatiful night out there |
| 03:54.52 | influx^^ | Nm. I was hoping to get some advice on something. |
| 03:54.55 | influx^^ | It is! |
| 03:55.08 | beandog | I think Im gonna go to the park |
| 03:55.47 | influx^^ | gooooo |
| 03:59.16 | beandog | waht did you need advice on |
| 03:59.28 | beandog | we love to give advice |
| 04:06.40 | influx^^ | Heh. I was wondering whether to go with a while() or foreach() when deleting a bunch of checked (as in form checkbox) items in a form, from a db. |
| 04:06.45 | influx^^ | ...and how to do it. |
| 04:06.54 | influx^^ | looks like foreach is the best way. |
| 04:19.08 | beandog | :) |
| 04:28.23 | influx^^ | I take that as a "yessir" |
| 04:30.02 | orsonj | I would agree |
| 04:31.13 | orsonj | We'll see what happens. |
| 04:32.40 | influx^^ | oh, also |
| 04:32.50 | influx^^ | hi orson |
| 04:32.52 | influx^^ | also |
| 04:32.55 | influx^^ | pagination |
| 04:33.08 | influx^^ | I have yet to find a tutorial that isn't confusing. |
| 04:33.15 | influx^^ | Any suggestions for a place? |
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| 14:32.43 | timinator | morning gents |
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| 15:31.22 | brasto | ~ttyl |
| 15:31.22 | jbot | [ttyl] Talk To You Later |
| 15:31.34 | brasto | ~nice jbot |
| 15:31.34 | jbot | ACTION lowers jbot's priority |
| 15:31.43 | brasto | lol |
| 15:35.26 | orsonj | heh |
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| 16:38.11 | orsonj | influx^^: It depends on how your data is setup that you want to paginate. If the data is already broken up into sorted, easy to access info, it is fairly simple, but if it isn't, it gets harder. |
| 16:46.26 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon or macnewbold - going to give Tucanos final count here in a minute, last i heard, it was 5 from the CG crew |
| 16:46.29 | mindjuju | is that accurate? |
| 16:49.07 | orsonj | hmmm, slow morning. |
| 16:50.49 | beandog | mindjuju, eh? |
| 16:53.01 | mindjuju | nothin' just giving you a wry look |
| 16:53.13 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: just a sec let me check |
| 16:59.19 | beandog | oh |
| 16:59.25 | beandog | mindjuju, so you coming coming tomorrow |
| 16:59.28 | beandog | I need someone to pay for my food |
| 16:59.29 | beandog | I'm broke. |
| 17:04.26 | beandog | all those cartoons on DVD aren't cheap, ya know. |
| 17:04.45 | mindjuju | true that beandog, which ones you buying right now? |
| 17:05.09 | beandog | uh |
| 17:05.13 | beandog | I'm waiting for Richie Rich |
| 17:05.43 | mindjuju | i remember that cartoon, twas good |
| 17:05.49 | mindjuju | try collecting Beetlejuice though |
| 17:06.00 | beandog | I never really liked that one. |
| 17:07.02 | mgeary | oh man, Richie Rich made my teeth hurt |
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| 17:09.30 | beandog | there's really not much on the horizon coming out |
| 17:09.50 | SunSparc | Any idea how to do an "svn rm" in Eclipse with the Subclipse plugin? |
| 17:10.27 | mindjuju | beandog - what about Galaxy High? |
| 17:10.35 | beandog | yah, not much |
| 17:10.38 | beandog | mindjuju, never seen it |
| 17:10.46 | mindjuju | or The Real Ghostbusters |
| 17:10.49 | beandog | oh man |
| 17:10.51 | beandog | I love Ghostbusters |
| 17:10.57 | beandog | They havent started doing season sets yet |
| 17:11.05 | mindjuju | oh |
| 17:11.18 | mindjuju | do you have Teen Titans? |
| 17:12.14 | beandog | yah |
| 17:12.17 | beandog | I love Teen Titans |
| 17:12.17 | beandog | :D |
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| 17:24.21 | mindjuju | ~APB herlo |
| 17:24.22 | jbot | ACTION hires Beth to find herlo |
| 17:27.12 | beandog | Beth? |
| 17:27.35 | mindjuju | Beth from Dog the bounty hunter |
| 17:27.40 | mindjuju | ~APB beandog |
| 17:27.41 | jbot | ACTION summons Leland to find beandog |
| 17:27.54 | beandog | that is a great show |
| 17:27.59 | beandog | what channel is that on anyway |
| 17:28.08 | beandog | is it even still one |
| 17:28.09 | beandog | on |
| 17:28.14 | mindjuju | not on anymore |
| 17:28.22 | mindjuju | was on A&E with Chris Angel |
| 17:28.36 | beandog | you know what show I like? Airline |
| 17:29.13 | mindjuju | never saw it |
| 17:31.03 | PoeticIntensity | For those interested.... The new OSS (LAPP) Natures Way website is LIVE! |
| 17:31.09 | PoeticIntensity | and I blogged about it, too... :) |
| 17:31.15 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3716&user=1 |
| 17:31.27 | mindjuju | what's the URL for the website? |
| 17:31.35 | PoeticIntensity | www.naturesway.com |
| 17:32.35 | mindjuju | it's nice and peppy! |
| 17:32.51 | PoeticIntensity | peppy-le-peu! (sp?) |
| 17:32.55 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... thanks. |
| 17:36.08 | unum | did dog ever settle his legal issues with mexico |
| 17:37.23 | beandog | how can you not love ze mexico. |
| 17:38.28 | mindjuju | unum, they have been officially dropped, though don't remember on what grounds |
| 17:39.08 | mindjuju | was clear violation of Mexican law to apprehend scumbag, and they could have pressed charges |
| 17:39.31 | mindjuju | maybe it had something to do with a couple US Senators getting involved, don't know |
| 17:53.06 | wps | I hate days when you have meetings all morning and then it's noon and you haven't gotten anything done yet |
| 17:53.47 | DexterTheDragon | we call those 'weekdays' |
| 17:54.35 | beandog | heh |
| 17:55.45 | mindjuju | ~APB fungus |
| 17:55.46 | jbot | ACTION summons Beth to find fungus |
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| 17:57.52 | mindjuju | ~APB thebigdog |
| 17:57.53 | jbot | ACTION summons Tim to stake out thebigdog |
| 17:58.10 | beandog | mindjuju, can you put lunch details in topic |
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| 19:37.58 | beandog | does anyone have any routers or switches for sale |
| 19:44.12 | fungus | I have a spare 4 port 10MB hub, if you want it. :) |
| 19:44.42 | beandog | do you have any 5" floppies too? |
| 19:47.17 | jsmith | beandog: I've got a couple of 8" floppies |
| 19:47.19 | orsonj | no, 10MB hub goes with 3 1/2" floppies, Coax goes with 5 1/4" |
| 19:47.36 | orsonj | A good pair of sneakers goes with the 8" |
| 19:47.41 | jsmith | beandog: And some old Lantastic network cards (2 Base T stuff) |
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| 19:55.09 | Utah_Dave | ~ping mindjuju |
| 19:55.10 | jbot | pong mindjuju |
| 19:59.57 | Utah_Dave | PoeticIntensity: congrats on your site going live! |
| 20:00.03 | Utah_Dave | It looks great |
| 20:00.06 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, man! |
| 20:00.21 | PoeticIntensity | the uppitys like it a lot better.... so... that's good. |
| 20:00.21 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 20:00.28 | PoeticIntensity | OSS FTW! |
| 20:02.27 | Utah_Dave | FTW! |
| 20:02.46 | Utah_Dave | I'm reading through your blog post right now |
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| 20:09.42 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Geek Lunch @ 1pm Rodizio Grill in Trolley Square | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 20:09.48 | mindjuju | ~APB thebigdog |
| 20:09.49 | jbot | ACTION calls Leland to spray mace at thebigdog |
| 20:09.55 | thebigdog | ty |
| 20:13.50 | orsonj | PoeticIntensity: Nice. It looks pretty good. The only thing I can think of to improve would be getting it to work with js disabled. |
| 20:13.50 | bradym | PoeticIntensity: your site looks great |
| 20:14.29 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, orsonj and bradym... |
| 20:14.40 | PoeticIntensity | orsonj, yes... The site is quite disabled without javascript. |
| 20:14.54 | PoeticIntensity | I'll definitely be looking into accessibility soon. |
| 20:15.45 | mindjuju | i thought readers for the blind allowed for more and more JS, provided it wasn't too complex |
| 20:15.55 | mindjuju | have to admit though, haven't seen your code to see how much you use |
| 20:16.15 | PoeticIntensity | the drop-downs are pure js. |
| 20:16.24 | PoeticIntensity | visibility toggling. |
| 20:18.04 | mindjuju | is that pure, un-cut, Utah's-finest, aged JS? |
| 20:18.10 | mindjuju | or just the regular street variety ? |
| 20:18.21 | PoeticIntensity | awwwwww yeah, buddy! 100% AUTHENTIC! |
| 20:18.37 | PoeticIntensity | I'm quite excited about the meeting tonight... |
| 20:18.57 | mindjuju | dude, me too, think olds is going to kick it hardcore |
| 20:19.03 | PoeticIntensity | awww yeah. |
| 20:19.10 | mindjuju | me too, need this meetin' |
| 20:19.22 | PoeticIntensity | I'll be there early this time, so I can take notes from a chair, and not the floor. :) |
| 20:23.48 | orsonj | PI, I'd probably build a couple pages (Products|Health Topics) that link to the respective pages in the menu. |
| 20:24.36 | mindjuju | dude, he's doggin' your design |
| 20:24.43 | orsonj | Also, I've seen tabbed things that just show one after the other when JS is off. |
| 20:25.11 | orsonj | ~lart mindjuju |
| 20:25.11 | jbot | puts mindjuju through a wood chipper |
| 20:25.16 | orsonj | heh |
| 20:25.36 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity, he's dissin' you, and your coding way |
| 20:25.42 | orsonj | ~lart mindjuju chips |
| 20:25.42 | jbot | whacks mindjuju chips with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:26.00 | mindjuju | heh |
| 20:26.02 | orsonj | ~lart flat mindjuju chips |
| 20:26.02 | jbot | tries to shut flat mindjuju chips up |
| 20:26.40 | PoeticIntensity | you dissin' my code, orsonj ? |
| 20:26.44 | PoeticIntensity | awwwwww man.... |
| 20:27.00 | PoeticIntensity | s'all good. You use my blog. Diss all ya want, brother! |
| 20:27.01 | PoeticIntensity | :-D |
| 20:27.04 | PoeticIntensity | ~woot |
| 20:27.10 | wGEric | are most of the meetings in draper? |
| 20:27.15 | PoeticIntensity | yes |
| 20:27.23 | PoeticIntensity | all of them have been for the last while... |
| 20:27.25 | PoeticIntensity | I'd say at least year. |
| 20:27.28 | PoeticIntensity | er... one year. |
| 20:28.06 | PoeticIntensity | gosh it's gorgeous outside today... |
| 20:28.16 | PoeticIntensity | how am I supposed to squash bugs when it's so beautiful out? |
| 20:30.31 | mgeary | seriously |
| 20:31.03 | PoeticIntensity | I need something sweet. |
| 20:31.10 | PoeticIntensity | and scrumptious. |
| 20:31.58 | mindjuju | ~give PoeticIntensity a twinkie |
| 20:31.59 | jbot | ACTION gives a twinkie to PoeticIntensity |
| 20:32.02 | mgeary | ewwww |
| 20:32.07 | mgeary | that's just cruel, mindjuju |
| 20:32.10 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:32.12 | mindjuju | curious |
| 20:32.18 | PoeticIntensity | thank heavens he didn't cram it into my mouth. |
| 20:32.33 | PoeticIntensity | twinkies make me wanna heave. |
| 20:32.35 | mindjuju | did yous ee it flipped the words around |
| 20:32.46 | mindjuju | ~give PoeticIntensity a car |
| 20:32.47 | jbot | ACTION gives a car to PoeticIntensity |
| 20:32.52 | PoeticIntensity | nice. |
| 20:32.53 | mgeary | ~literal give |
| 20:32.54 | jbot | "give" is "the channel flag" |
| 20:32.58 | mgeary | huh? |
| 20:33.01 | mindjuju | don't think i ever noticed that |
| 20:33.05 | mgeary | ~literal ~give |
| 20:33.06 | PoeticIntensity | ~give said the little stream |
| 20:33.07 | jbot | ACTION gives the little stream to said |
| 20:33.11 | orsonj | http://www.barelyfitz.com/projects/tabber/ <-- Here you go PI, no criticism without some help. |
| 20:33.27 | mindjuju | ~give a car to PoeticIntensity |
| 20:33.28 | jbot | ACTION gives car to PoeticIntensity to a |
| 20:33.53 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I looked at that, orsonj... |
| 20:34.05 | PoeticIntensity | but from what I remember, the code was waaay too bloated for my taste. |
| 20:34.24 | PoeticIntensity | before using a pre-fab solution, I always take a look to see if I can slim it down without sacrificing too much functionality. |
| 20:34.44 | PoeticIntensity | the aforementioned "peppiness" of the site can be attributed much to that. |
| 20:34.50 | orsonj | ah, understandable |
| 20:34.59 | PoeticIntensity | no javascript used without being completely necessary. |
| 20:35.06 | PoeticIntensity | the CSS is another story, because I'm still learning... |
| 20:35.13 | PoeticIntensity | there might be 150% bloat in that file. :) |
| 20:37.11 | orsonj | Don't feel too bad, I just signed up for a grilling myself :) |
| 20:41.10 | PoeticIntensity | you ever gonna make it to a meeting, orsonj ? |
| 20:41.16 | PoeticIntensity | it'd be nice to meet ya. |
| 20:41.35 | PoeticIntensity | along with the rest of these blokes. |
| 20:42.15 | thebigdog | timinator, is not sezy |
| 20:42.29 | timinator | too sexy for MSN Live |
| 20:42.31 | timinator | :) |
| 20:42.43 | thebigdog | haha |
| 20:42.46 | thebigdog | i got video though |
| 20:42.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:42.51 | thebigdog | that is like blueray |
| 20:43.06 | timinator | video is cool, no doubt |
| 20:43.11 | orsonj | heh, I'd love to come. however when the drive is longer than the event... |
| 20:43.25 | timinator | so is being on any network |
| 20:43.58 | timinator | I've got friends on MSN, Yahoo, AIM, .Mac, gTalk, etc |
| 20:44.32 | timinator | ICQ, Jabber |
| 20:44.42 | timinator | LiveJournal |
| 20:44.48 | timinator | *shrug |
| 20:45.52 | orsonj | well, at least gTalk, Jabber and LiveJournal all use the same protocol and you don't need a separate account for each. |
| 20:47.45 | unum | I refuse to talk to anyone except on jabber |
| 20:48.06 | unum | if someone wants to talk to me online and doesn't have a gmail account I offer them a jabber account on my server |
| 20:48.22 | unum | icq and aim are also linked now |
| 20:48.44 | unum | btw |
| 20:55.33 | olds | jabber++ |
| 21:02.42 | Utah_Dave | jabber++ |
| 21:07.22 | thebigdog | blabber-- |
| 21:12.25 | SunSparc | ~jabber++ |
| 21:13.12 | DexterTheDragon | email++ |
| 21:13.20 | SunSparc | iChat supports Jabber so I have all my accounts in iChat. I just wish Apple would buy Adium and incoporate some of the cool Adium features into iChat. |
| 21:13.52 | mindjuju | $10Million-PublisherClearinghouse-Check-Ed-MacMahn+++ |
| 21:15.00 | SunSparc | I sent Apple that suggestion -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/ichat.html |
| 21:15.47 | fungus | IIRC Adium is based on GPL code. I doubt Apple would/could buy it |
| 21:16.07 | SunSparc | Well, at least use the ideas. ;) |
| 21:16.28 | fungus | Yeah, they are almost as good at that as MS is. |
| 21:16.35 | SunSparc | I don't see them contributing all their iChat features to the Adium projecct. |
| 21:16.59 | SunSparc | fungus: that is what I hear. |
| 21:18.26 | DexterTheDragon | adium is built on pidgins libraries which is gpl |
| 21:18.58 | SunSparc | It is also built on gaim, iirc. |
| 21:19.13 | DexterTheDragon | pidgin was gaim |
| 21:19.19 | SunSparc | Makes sense. |
| 21:19.20 | DexterTheDragon | name change |
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| 21:29.02 | mgeary | speaking of JS, what philosophies have you folks used to address the issue that search bots can't (generally) parse JS well enough to effectively crawl a highly-ajaxian site where navigation is generally done by running JS functions? |
| 21:29.44 | mgeary | the 3 prongs i'm juggling are: 1) user experience (no refreshes == good), 2) deep-link-ability/bookmark-ability, 3) search bot-friendly |
| 21:30.10 | thebigdog | dont use js for navigation |
| 21:30.16 | mindjuju | yeah, concur |
| 21:30.22 | wGEric | make the site work without requiring JS |
| 21:30.27 | thebigdog | i think netflix does a great job of ajax and standard web |
| 21:30.36 | thebigdog | yes that is the key |
| 21:30.48 | thebigdog | unless you are doing some type of js web application |
| 21:30.48 | mindjuju | and no flash for nav |
| 21:30.48 | wGEric | if JS is there then the user gets the "full experience" |
| 21:30.51 | mgeary | yeah, problematic in this case, unfortunately |
| 21:31.12 | mgeary | the navigation is exactly where they want the *most* javascript |
| 21:31.28 | thebigdog | how hard is it to create links |
| 21:31.37 | mgeary | ? |
| 21:31.48 | thebigdog | i think css links do a great job |
| 21:31.58 | wGEric | could you put the nav in the HTML and then have your javascript clear the contents and write it's own html in there? |
| 21:32.05 | mindjuju | i was going to say that too about CSS, but he mentioned AJAXy things |
| 21:32.12 | mindjuju | are you saying mgeary, that the nav changes? |
| 21:32.25 | mgeary | yeah, it's supposed to animate, collapse open/closed, reveal subcats, etc |
| 21:32.32 | thebigdog | what are they needing js in the nav? |
| 21:32.37 | mgeary | wGEric: that's not a bad idea |
| 21:32.54 | mgeary | that's actually not bad at all |
| 21:33.25 | wGEric | also you probably don't need to use AJAX to get the subcategories |
| 21:33.30 | beandog | everytime you use javascript, god kills a kitten |
| 21:33.45 | wGEric | you can spit out everything in the navigation and use a combination of CSS and Javascript to get the effects you want |
| 21:33.45 | mgeary | sweet |
| 21:33.53 | beandog | sure beats spaying and neutering. |
| 21:34.03 | tierra | AJAX for a menu sounds counter-productive |
| 21:34.17 | mgeary | well, right, not Ajax, but JS |
| 21:34.25 | mgeary | i.e. no dynamic data retrieval, but animation |
| 21:34.31 | tierra | ah |
| 21:35.10 | SunSparc | Just make a Java-applet nav and include it. ;) |
| 21:35.15 | mgeary | awesome |
| 21:35.22 | mgeary | Java is teh bomb |
| 21:35.26 | tierra | hehe |
| 21:35.27 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:35.28 | mgeary | right, thebigdog ? |
| 21:35.30 | mindjuju | everytime you use a java applet - God spanks helmet cat - http://rtmulcahy.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/lime-helmet-cat.jpg |
| 21:35.59 | beandog | that cat does not look happy |
| 21:36.21 | brasto | I remember hearing from somewhere that LIKE works better than '=' when using a SELECT statement on a text field, even when not using a wildcard. It might have been Sasha Pachev at the UOSC, but I don't remember for sure. Have any of you heard the same? |
| 21:36.44 | mgeary | brasto: you mean a varchar field, right, not text? There's an important difference |
| 21:37.10 | brasto | ah, could be, yes, i believe it's varchar |
| 21:37.12 | bradym | brasto: depends what you're trying to do.. LIKE and = are two different operations |
| 21:37.47 | mindjuju | you should prolly only use like when you don't know the exact or sending it is impractical |
| 21:37.51 | tierra | pandora should have listening stats... |
| 21:37.53 | mgeary | or when you use a wildcard |
| 21:38.01 | mgeary | mindjuju: that was also my impression |
| 21:38.28 | SunSparc | tierra: pandora has "thumbs up" stats. |
| 21:38.31 | bradym | :) |
| 21:38.55 | tierra | SunSparc: where are those? I was thinking I saw them somewhere a long time ago, but I can't find it now |
| 21:39.46 | tierra | is it only per-artist? |
| 21:39.51 | tierra | that kinda sucks |
| 21:40.05 | mindjuju | synic - you around? |
| 21:40.13 | SunSparc | tierra: Go to the Station menu and click on Edit this Station |
| 21:41.11 | thebigdog | java is the best stuff |
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| 21:42.08 | tierra | oh, per-station stats as well |
| 21:42.22 | tierra | ok, well, overall stats would be nice too :) |
| 21:42.31 | SunSparc | Yeah, it is a start. |
| 21:42.57 | synic | mindjuju: yeah |
| 21:43.22 | mindjuju | hey, i lost that URL that you sent me a couple of days ago, and forgot to turn on IRC logging |
| 21:43.27 | mindjuju | but it was the URL for Tiesto |
| 21:43.49 | mindjuju | been listing to that for last several days and accidentally clicked on another playlist without saving the URL location |
| 21:43.58 | synic | it was just ravetrax |
| 21:43.59 | mindjuju | it was Ravesong or something |
| 21:44.07 | mindjuju | that's it, thx |
| 21:54.09 | PoeticIntensity | I gotta get out of this code... |
| 21:54.20 | PoeticIntensity | I think I'll go play with the ducks next door. :) |
| 22:00.48 | timinator | gotta run guys.... throwing a 1st birthday party for my son :) |
| 22:01.00 | SunSparc | Woot! Happy Birthday! |
| 22:01.21 | wps | please take IE 6 with you and use it for the donkey in "pin the tail" |
| 22:01.41 | PoeticIntensity | hear hear! |
| 22:02.36 | SunSparc | Then incinerate it. |
| 22:03.04 | SunSparc | Then gasify the ashes and incinerate the gas. |
| 22:03.07 | wps | I have been trying to get file download scrip to work in IE 6 for two days now |
| 22:03.13 | wps | :( |
| 22:03.30 | SunSparc | wps: you still messing with that? |
| 22:03.35 | wps | yes |
| 22:03.40 | SunSparc | Yuck |
| 22:03.43 | wps | I have tried 1,000 different approaches |
| 22:03.48 | wps | nothing works |
| 22:03.53 | SunSparc | I hate that feeling. |
| 22:04.14 | wps | it either can't find the file or spits the binary data out to the screen |
| 22:04.20 | PoeticIntensity | just trying to get a file to be sent as a download? |
| 22:04.28 | wps | yeah |
| 22:04.28 | PoeticIntensity | (I looked at your script earlier today, wps) |
| 22:04.31 | PoeticIntensity | hold on... |
| 22:04.34 | mgeary | wps: really? |
| 22:04.35 | PoeticIntensity | I've got something that works. |
| 22:04.42 | SunSparc | How about this: if (agent=ie6) { print("use FF or die!"); ) |
| 22:04.45 | mgeary | a nice FileDownloader class |
| 22:04.47 | wps | if you have one that works, I would love to compare it against mine |
| 22:05.01 | PoeticIntensity | agh... mine isn't a class... |
| 22:05.23 | PoeticIntensity | always gotta "one-up" me, don't ya, mgeary |
| 22:05.25 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart mgeary |
| 22:05.25 | jbot | whacks mgeary with the cluebat |
| 22:05.41 | mgeary | well, jeeze, PoeticIntensity, it's not like you make it hard.... |
| 22:05.43 | wps | I would still like to see it if you're willing to share |
| 22:05.46 | mgeary | ;P |
| 22:05.50 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah. |
| 22:05.52 | PoeticIntensity | I'm diggin'. |
| 22:06.19 | mgeary | http://dpaste.com/45600/ |
| 22:07.44 | PoeticIntensity | http://rafb.net/p/66NW5292.html |
| 22:07.52 | PoeticIntensity | there's mine.... it's a function within a class. |
| 22:08.09 | PoeticIntensity | it's for exporting to Excel for a sales reporting site I built here. |
| 22:08.26 | wps | thanks, gents |
| 22:08.29 | wps | I'll look those over |
| 22:09.15 | PoeticIntensity | :-D |
| 22:09.16 | mgeary | hahahaa |
| 22:09.27 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:11.24 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity - i thought you were going to go catch a duck |
| 22:11.43 | mindjuju | what's for dinner? Beijing Duck? |
| 22:11.52 | PoeticIntensity | I decided to play DTD instead. |
| 22:12.09 | PoeticIntensity | my boss, a coworker, and I are having a battle in this game... |
| 22:12.18 | PoeticIntensity | the group name is "whodaman" |
| 22:12.24 | PoeticIntensity | and my coworker beat me on medium... |
| 22:12.31 | PoeticIntensity | so now we're seeing about the hard level. :) |
| 22:12.43 | PoeticIntensity | www.handdrawngames.com for those who are unfamiliar with DTD. |
| 22:12.44 | mindjuju | that's a fun / addictive game |
| 22:13.36 | SunSparc | Speaking of DTD, you ever play Armagetron? -> http://www.armagetronad.net/ |
| 22:14.01 | SunSparc | Fun, free, also addictive |
| 22:14.17 | SunSparc | And LAN'able |
| 22:15.08 | mindjuju | can you break out of the game arena and drive around? |
| 22:15.39 | SunSparc | mindjuju: hehe, that would be cool. |
| 22:15.49 | SunSparc | NO NO NO NO NO |
| 22:16.30 | mindjuju | do you NEED to have a host server or can 2 comps play? |
| 22:16.45 | SunSparc | YOU can be the host. |
| 22:17.02 | SunSparc | Play against the comp or against your cubemates. |
| 22:17.19 | SunSparc | Runs on Mac also. |
| 22:18.46 | SunSparc | I think it runs on Linux also. |
| 22:25.08 | wps | being a Class novice, how would I pass the filename into your class, mgeary? |
| 22:25.26 | wps | $fd = new File_Downloader; |
| 22:25.27 | wps | and then |
| 22:25.44 | mgeary | $fd->forceDownload("outputfilename.pdf"); |
| 22:25.46 | wps | $fd->__contstruct('/path/to/file.pdf'); |
| 22:25.51 | mgeary | no |
| 22:26.01 | mgeary | $fd = new File_Downloader("/path/to/file.pdf"); |
| 22:26.03 | mgeary | then |
| 22:26.05 | mgeary | $fd->forceDownload("outputfilename.pdf"); |
| 22:26.07 | beandog | $fd =& |
| 22:26.12 | beandog | referencing++ |
| 22:26.16 | mgeary | beandog: only if you're using PHP4 |
| 22:26.21 | mgeary | PHP5 auto passes by ref |
| 22:26.24 | beandog | you dont have to do it on 5? |
| 22:26.25 | beandog | really? |
| 22:26.26 | beandog | buh! |
| 22:26.33 | beandog | good ol php 5. |
| 22:26.44 | mgeary | i'm pretty sure |
| 22:26.53 | mgeary | wps: make sense? |
| 22:26.57 | wps | yes |
| 22:26.58 | beandog | Id be a little surprised if thats true, actually. |
| 22:26.58 | wps | thank you |
| 22:27.01 | mgeary | working? |
| 22:27.29 | wps | testing |
| 22:27.35 | mgeary | beandog: http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/07/15/php-5-object-references/ |
| 22:27.43 | wps | can you have two classes within the same file? |
| 22:27.48 | mgeary | yes |
| 22:27.51 | mgeary | beandog: fta: "With PHP5 the default behaviour is now to pass objects by reference" |
| 22:28.10 | mgeary | wps: but it's cleaner to have per-class files and use __autoload |
| 22:28.17 | mgeary | but i don't want to rock your world toooo much ;) |
| 22:29.21 | wps | yeahâ¦Â I just wanted to paste your class below mine so it was easier to set up the test |
| 22:29.36 | beandog | hmm |
| 22:29.46 | beandog | well it would be simple to check if you ran a memory check |
| 22:31.02 | wps | mgeary: it spit out the binary data to the browser in Safari |
| 22:31.08 | wps | i haven't tested in any other browsers |
| 22:31.26 | mgeary | wps: do you have it on a link that i can see? |
| 22:31.38 | wps | the script or the output? |
| 22:31.41 | mgeary | wait |
| 22:31.43 | mgeary | tell me this |
| 22:31.51 | mgeary | are you echoing anything before you force download? |
| 22:31.59 | mgeary | or is there any whitespace before your <php tag? |
| 22:32.10 | mgeary | is any "normal" text being sent to the browser at all? |
| 22:32.18 | SunSparc | wps: is debug output on? |
| 22:32.35 | mgeary | also, you might want to NOT buffer your output. |
| 22:34.07 | mgeary | it can cause havok on your code to migrate, but it's a very good idea, imo, to NOT have output_buffering on |
| 22:35.08 | mgeary | wps: so...? |
| 22:37.59 | wps | I removed everything above and not it is working in Safari |
| 22:38.07 | wps | but doesn't work in IE 6 |
| 22:39.48 | wps | IE 6 is trying to download the script instead of the PDF |
| 22:40.22 | brasto | ~lart lazy data entry people |
| 22:40.22 | jbot | squeezes lazy data entry people till lazy data entry people turns blue like papa smurf |
| 22:40.31 | mgeary | wps: one sec |
| 22:40.35 | wps | this is ridiculous |
| 22:41.02 | SunSparc | wps: I sounds like a content type header issue. |
| 22:41.20 | mgeary | wps: so on IE6 it downloads the file, but the file ends up being named "output.php" |
| 22:41.21 | mgeary | ? |
| 22:42.02 | wps | no |
| 22:42.57 | mgeary | 'cause i *have* seen that |
| 22:43.03 | mgeary | so, what're you seeing? |
| 22:43.05 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/yHYkdmbLcgQ |
| 22:43.21 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/wvHHcQ5P9Cj |
| 22:43.24 | mgeary | hey, wps, you related to anyone named Kelli/Kelly? |
| 22:43.35 | wps | not that I know of |
| 22:43.58 | beandog | mindjuju, they know were coming? |
| 22:44.14 | mindjuju | who |
| 22:44.21 | mgeary | wps, sending PM |
| 22:44.22 | beandog | rodizios |
| 22:44.32 | wps | there are a lot of "sch" but not many that spell it just "sh" |
| 22:44.34 | mindjuju | oh, yeah, setup res this morning |
| 22:44.37 | beandog | rawk |
| 22:44.40 | beandog | macnewbold, you coming |
| 22:44.42 | mindjuju | then called again to give updated count like 10 min ago |
| 22:44.47 | mindjuju | give final count tomorrow morn |
| 22:45.00 | SunSparc | mindjuju: any more info on Ironman? |
| 22:45.20 | mindjuju | none yet |
| 22:45.39 | beandog | mindjuju, get to it, boy |
| 22:45.49 | beandog | :) |
| 22:46.14 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:53.20 | beandog | boy |
| 22:53.24 | beandog | svn and samba don't mix. |
| 22:54.05 | wps | note to group |
| 22:54.22 | mgeary | "don't mess with mgeary" ? |
| 22:54.30 | wps | don't test downloading scripts on versions of IE 6 that are dual installed with IE 7 (same box) via the multiple IEs hack |
| 22:57.09 | beandog | me too |
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| 23:38.30 | SunSparc | Night all! |
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| 23:56.58 | beandog | now_playing[James Horner - Krull - Main title & Colwyn's arrival] length[1:21/7:38] |
| 23:57.54 | macnewbold | beandog: yeah, I'm going to be at the meeting |
| 23:58.09 | beandog | macnewbold, lunch |
| 23:58.10 | macnewbold | but not going to be able to make the lunch tomorrow :( |
| 23:58.26 | macnewbold | one of our co-workers passed away, and her funeral is at noon in west jordan tomorrow |
| 23:58.37 | beandog | oh, suck |
| 23:58.43 | macnewbold | her cancer came back with a vengance |
| 23:58.44 | mgeary | woah |
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| 23:58.49 | mgeary | dang, sorry to hear that |
| 23:58.52 | macnewbold | she was fine less than 2 months ago |
| 23:58.58 | mgeary | what kind of cancer was it? |
| 23:59.23 | macnewbold | only 45 when she died, left an 18 year old daughter, 5 year old daughter, and a 1 year old grandson who all lived with her |
| 23:59.31 | mgeary | aww, man |
| 23:59.38 | macnewbold | she was a breast cancer survivor, but when it came back it spread to her liver I heard |
| 23:59.44 | mgeary | ah |
| 23:59.47 | macnewbold | a few weeks ago they thought she had a month |
