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| 01:15.32 | DexterTheDragon | s/plaining/playing/ |
| 01:15.41 | DexterTheDragon | whew its late in the day |
| 01:15.47 | mindjuju | yeah it is |
| 01:17.38 | DexterTheDragon | my desk is already black |
| 01:19.55 | DexterTheDragon | yay! |
| 01:20.03 | mindjuju | actually, it'd be cooler if it was -1 |
| 01:20.19 | DexterTheDragon | like a black hole? |
| 01:20.23 | mindjuju | :) yup |
| 01:21.25 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: lunch at 1 friday? |
| 01:21.33 | mindjuju | yup, 1p on Friday |
| 01:25.46 | beandog | mindjuju is paying for everyone |
| 01:26.14 | mindjuju | yeah, if that's ok with everyone. Name on the credit card is Mr. Beandog |
| 01:26.38 | mindjuju | deserts for everybody on this card! |
| 01:30.30 | beandog | ~evil mindjuju |
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| 01:56.28 | beandog | mindjuju: you do your taxes yet |
| 01:56.52 | mindjuju | just finished them, actually |
| 01:57.07 | mindjuju | well, like 2 hours ago |
| 01:57.13 | mindjuju | what about u? |
| 01:57.57 | beandog | same |
| 01:58.10 | beandog | one nice thing I realized this year, you dont have to pay all you're due right away |
| 01:58.14 | beandog | (hallelujah) |
| 01:58.40 | mindjuju | not sure i follow |
| 01:58.45 | beandog | :C |
| 01:58.51 | beandog | you can pay in quarterly payments |
| 01:58.55 | mindjuju | uh, i thought you did |
| 01:59.05 | mindjuju | oh, yeah, you mean throughout the year |
| 01:59.08 | beandog | yah |
| 01:59.37 | mindjuju | but AFAIK, you have to be paid up by the time 4/15/2k8 rolls around or you have to file extension, right? |
| 01:59.46 | beandog | yah |
| 01:59.57 | beandog | well I dunno about extension |
| 01:59.59 | beandog | but the date is right. |
| 02:00.05 | mindjuju | yeah, or file extension |
| 02:00.40 | mindjuju | i up my dependants so that the gov takes just under the amount owed |
| 02:01.00 | mindjuju | i usually have it timed to under $100, but this year, foobed and we owed 400 |
| 02:01.15 | mindjuju | good thing we have a slush fund for this type of stuff |
| 02:01.26 | mindjuju | cause you never know |
| 02:02.40 | mindjuju | nice to have, we used to have the 3 months cash on hand, but had to use it in an emergency and now need to build it back |
| 02:02.54 | mindjuju | that's hard to build up, cause everyday, its just sitting there looking sweet and pretty |
| 02:03.57 | mindjuju | so beandog, you going to Tucanos on Friday? |
| 02:04.03 | beandog | mindjuju: in salt lake? |
| 02:04.15 | mindjuju | yeah, just remembered, you're in park city |
| 02:04.19 | beandog | no, Im in SLC |
| 02:04.22 | beandog | I quit that job. |
| 02:04.29 | beandog | non-payment will do that. |
| 02:04.35 | mindjuju | oh you are? did you hook up with the Code Greene Posse ? |
| 02:04.44 | beandog | nope |
| 02:05.42 | beandog | mindjuju: so it is SLC, right? |
| 02:05.44 | beandog | at Gateway? |
| 02:05.49 | mindjuju | yup, at Gateway |
| 02:05.52 | beandog | rawk |
| 02:05.57 | mindjuju | you coming? |
| 02:05.57 | beandog | I love Gateway |
| 02:05.59 | beandog | yah |
| 02:06.03 | mindjuju | sweet! |
| 02:06.22 | beandog | I didnt even know it was up here |
| 02:06.31 | mindjuju | yeah, this time around it is |
| 02:06.53 | beandog | right on |
| 02:07.07 | beandog | and its not at some indian / asian / arab place that'd make me yack |
| 02:07.17 | mindjuju | heh |
| 02:07.19 | beandog | nothing against the asians, Im just a picky eater. |
| 02:07.36 | beandog | what time is the lunch |
| 02:07.44 | mindjuju | American-Chinese food isn't nearly as good as Chinese food from China |
| 02:07.47 | mindjuju | lunch at 1p |
| 02:07.51 | beandog | okay |
| 02:07.54 | beandog | I can do thats. |
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| 02:43.29 | olds | sup all |
| 02:44.14 | mindjuju | sup |
| 02:44.41 | olds | just adding material for the talk |
| 02:45.22 | olds | u? |
| 02:46.46 | mindjuju | was coding a report, but then got curious about Google Apps Engine |
| 02:46.49 | mindjuju | so readign up on that |
| 02:47.29 | mindjuju | it's funny to watch these two titans fight |
| 02:47.38 | mindjuju | Moreover, Russell said he believes with Google App Engine, Google âjust made MySQL obsolete.â |
| 02:47.57 | mindjuju | With a differing view of the Google news, Tim Bray, director of Web technologies at Sun Microsystems, called developers who opt to use Google App Engine âsharecroppers.â |
| 02:48.17 | olds | lol |
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| 02:48.51 | olds | does anyone know off the top of his/her head if there is a maximum length for arrays in php? |
| 02:49.21 | olds | or is it dictated by the max memory |
| 02:49.26 | olds | erf memory limit |
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| 02:51.43 | mindjuju | olds - i'm not sure personally, never needed to venture that far, but in googling, people seem to be saying there isn't one |
| 02:52.03 | mindjuju | http://www.google.com/search?q=array+PHP+max+length&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1 |
| 02:52.22 | mindjuju | the fifth entry is especially noteworthy |
| 02:52.25 | mindjuju | from codingforums |
| 02:54.19 | olds | yea, I'm just curious |
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| 04:08.58 | mindjuju | what you doing back in orsonj ? |
| 04:16.44 | orsonj | just tossed a load of laundry in. turned on the computer to pass the time. |
| 04:18.11 | mindjuju | ah |
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| 04:26.29 | thebigdog | evening all |
| 04:26.51 | mindjuju | ~flip thebigdog |
| 04:26.51 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 04:26.59 | thebigdog | ty mindjuju |
| 04:27.31 | mindjuju | that's what i'm here for |
| 04:27.43 | thebigdog | i see that |
| 04:33.36 | mindjuju | sorry, just a bitter citizen grabbing for something |
| 04:33.56 | mindjuju | in this case, a book on sprocs as used by MS SQL 2k5 |
| 04:35.45 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 04:36.28 | mindjuju | got to make sure i have my sproc skillz tight before doing db refactoring |
| 04:51.20 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 04:51.24 | thebigdog | i think we all do |
| 04:52.39 | thebigdog | im working on stupid application reports |
| 04:52.59 | mindjuju | sounds like fun |
| 04:53.09 | thebigdog | its mind numbing |
| 04:53.14 | thebigdog | i hate it |
| 04:53.27 | thebigdog | i tried to hire 3 people to do it and no one works out |
| 04:54.19 | mindjuju | that sux |
| 04:55.22 | thebigdog | yeah it really blows chunks |
| 05:00.14 | mindjuju | k, i'm out -- going home where i can put my dogs up and read some more |
| 05:00.15 | mindjuju | cya tomorrow |
| 05:00.27 | thebigdog | night |
| 05:19.07 | thebigdog | hehe' |
| 05:21.06 | orsonj | I was about to work on something that I don't have a backup copy of, but decided to wait till a) I get a backup. or b) I can think clearly. |
| 05:27.16 | thebigdog | haha |
| 05:27.26 | thebigdog | i try and always make a backup first too |
| 05:43.44 | orsonj | time for bed. |
| 05:49.12 | thebigdog | its getting there |
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| 14:26.21 | timinator | mornin' gents |
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| 14:36.30 | olds | mornin' |
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| 15:01.49 | mindjuju | greets gents |
| 15:02.37 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
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| 15:09.44 | mindjuju | so if you guys weren't able to call a person on the phone and had to send a password to the person, how would you do so? |
| 15:09.57 | mindjuju | was thinking of embedding the usr/pss into a jpeg and sending that |
| 15:10.18 | SunSparc | Can they change the password once they get it? |
| 15:10.25 | synic | pgp |
| 15:10.28 | mindjuju | nope |
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| 15:10.41 | mindjuju | pgp is good idea |
| 15:10.51 | SunSparc | Yeah, can they receive encrypted email? |
| 15:11.15 | mindjuju | i'll email them to find out |
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| 15:13.58 | olds | pigeon |
| 15:16.43 | SunSparc | lol, yeah, that should be pretty safe. |
| 15:21.18 | _psychic_ | pigeons are vulnerable to HITM attacks |
| 15:22.00 | SunSparc | What is the H for? |
| 15:22.06 | SunSparc | Hunter? |
| 15:22.08 | SunSparc | lol |
| 15:22.55 | _psychic_ | Hawk |
| 15:23.06 | SunSparc | Ah, yeah. |
| 15:23.56 | SunSparc | With an anti-Hawk mini-laser turret the Pigeons could be less vulnerable. |
| 15:28.04 | mindjuju | seems to me SunSparc that having a couple Rocs run escort, pigeon would be ok |
| 15:28.15 | _psychic_ | hehe |
| 15:28.20 | SunSparc | There you go. |
| 15:28.21 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:39.04 | olds | ~seen macnewbold |
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| 16:28.49 | mindjuju | thebigdog or any other sql gurus -- have a quick question |
| 16:31.29 | mindjuju | i usually just do simple SQL in sprocs, that is, selects, updates, joins, etc |
| 16:32.05 | mindjuju | now, i know you can program logic into SQL, "if this" and more advanced stuff |
| 16:32.09 | mindjuju | the question is, do you? |
| 16:33.35 | olds | rarely |
| 16:33.50 | olds | very rarely |
| 16:34.17 | mindjuju | olds, is it on a "portability of SQL code" reason, or is there something else? |
| 16:34.21 | mindjuju | i'm just curious |
| 16:34.37 | mindjuju | i don't, but thought i'd consider it again since i'm refactoring |
| 16:35.08 | mindjuju | seems like i heard once that logic belongs in the page, and queries belong in SQL - aka don't mix |
| 16:36.02 | olds | yea |
| 16:36.11 | olds | it's more difficult to maintain imo |
| 16:36.27 | olds | and slower to write since the logic options are somewhat limited |
| 16:36.36 | mindjuju | true that |
| 16:38.57 | _psychic__ | logic in the db level is evil imho |
| 16:39.04 | _psychic__ | hard to test |
| 16:39.11 | _psychic__ | hard to commit to code repository |
| 16:39.15 | _psychic__ | hard to migrate |
| 16:39.22 | _psychic__ | hard to debug (logic at too many levels) |
| 16:39.44 | _psychic__ | the big boys are moving to more simple and simple data stores |
| 16:39.48 | _psychic__ | amazon, google |
| 16:39.57 | _psychic__ | some aren't even relational |
| 16:40.06 | mindjuju | you know, that's v true _psychic_ |
| 16:40.15 | mindjuju | was just reading up on Google App yesterday |
| 16:40.21 | mindjuju | read that about no relations |
| 16:40.28 | _psychic__ | Amazon's SimpleDB is similar |
| 16:42.03 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You might like "Delerium" radion station on Pandora. |
| 16:42.58 | mindjuju | Pandora ? only listen to Pandora when i'm wearing tin foil hat |
| 16:43.11 | mindjuju | it's my only defense against their mind reading ways |
| 16:43.18 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:43.27 | SunSparc | You know you love Pandora. |
| 16:44.14 | mindjuju | Pandora == Tripy-mindreading service that lulls you into their web by playing what you want to listen too |
| 16:44.25 | SunSparc | hehe, exactly. |
| 16:44.39 | SunSparc | Give into the power of Pandora's box... |
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| 16:55.06 | tierra | you know you want to open that box |
| 16:55.32 | tierra | does anyone here have a phone supported by Pandora Mobile btw? |
| 16:56.16 | tierra | I |
| 16:56.37 | tierra | I'm pretty sure it would work on my phone, but it's not one of the 'officially supported' phones |
| 16:56.55 | tierra | I want to see if someone can grab the app for me, and send it to my phone so I can try it |
| 16:57.48 | tierra | they have support for a SE model that's almost identical to mine... |
| 16:58.22 | SunSparc | Which phone do you have? |
| 16:58.29 | tierra | K850i |
| 16:59.04 | tierra | AT&T was going to officially support and sell it, but I think they've dropped their plans for it |
| 17:01.33 | orsonj | speaking of AWOL phone, my sister lost her phone a couple months ago and just found it outside when the snow melted. And it still worked. |
| 17:01.48 | tierra | heh |
| 17:02.00 | mindjuju | nice |
| 17:02.04 | olds | nice |
| 17:02.14 | SunSparc | hehe, yeah, I found all sorts of stuff in my lawn after the snow melted. |
| 17:02.15 | olds | I think I'mma get me one of those iphones |
| 17:02.21 | olds | once june rolls around |
| 17:03.00 | tierra | olds: on of the new 'business' models coming out? |
| 17:03.05 | tierra | with 3G, etc... |
| 17:03.06 | timinator | need 3G on a T-Mobile network first |
| 17:03.39 | olds | well, one of the new models |
| 17:03.43 | olds | the 3G |
| 17:03.50 | olds | haven't heard them called business models |
| 17:04.05 | tierra | that's what AT&T is marketing them as |
| 17:04.11 | olds | ahh |
| 17:04.13 | olds | well then yes |
| 17:04.21 | mindjuju | oh sure, business models, that's like Cindy Crawford or Kathy Ireland who now go around selling furniture |
| 17:04.28 | olds | yea |
| 17:04.38 | tierra | but yeah, if you're getting one now, it should be one of the new ones just coming out with 3G |
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| 17:04.46 | tierra | it'd be a waste to get the older model |
| 17:04.57 | olds | yea |
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| 17:40.33 | thebigdog | mindjuju, you get your questions solved |
| 17:40.42 | olds | there's that macnewbold |
| 17:41.01 | macnewbold | g'day |
| 17:41.03 | mindjuju | thebigdog - yes |
| 17:41.09 | mindjuju | course, what do you do? |
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| 17:46.37 | macnewbold | ~lart aol |
| 17:46.37 | jbot | beats aol senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 17:54.08 | timinator | http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=73173 |
| 17:54.23 | timinator | that's a little disturbing if you have daughters |
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| 17:54.39 | timinator | little disturbing anyway |
| 18:06.29 | tierra | timinator: we have a new regular in the channel that thinks I'm female... we should see how long it takes Trevyn to figure it out. |
| 18:06.44 | timinator | LOL |
| 18:06.49 | timinator | took me quite a while |
| 18:06.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 18:06.57 | tierra | hehe, yeah, I remember |
| 18:07.01 | timinator | actually... I just liked giving you a hard time |
| 18:07.04 | timinator | haha |
| 18:07.39 | tierra | 12:45 < Trevyn> honestly, I don't see any content of any worth on your site... That was her point. |
| 18:07.51 | timinator | hahaha |
| 18:07.56 | timinator | I'll have to play along |
| 18:08.21 | tierra | yep, that's why I bring it up now while he's not here... everyone needs to play along again |
| 18:08.30 | timinator | sounds good |
| 18:08.34 | timinator | will do |
| 18:14.05 | SunSparc | IRC nicks hide a lot of information about the people behind them. |
| 18:14.51 | SunSparc | Inhibitions are released en force when a user gets behind an IRC handle. |
| 18:15.33 | mindjuju | While I think that v true, having met most in this channel, I think everybody is pretty close personality wise |
| 18:16.02 | mindjuju | except for that darn Utah_Dave |
| 18:16.11 | SunSparc | Perhaps maturity affects that equation. |
| 18:16.18 | olds | on irc, I'm a democrat, in person, I'm a republican |
| 18:16.19 | mindjuju | he's a punk! always tunafarting |
| 18:16.25 | tierra | haha |
| 18:16.25 | olds | that's jut the way I roll |
| 18:16.39 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:17.03 | SunSparc | Down with the Aristoe! Long live the Republic! |
| 18:20.05 | SunSparc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.10 | mindjuju | SunSparc - love Cirque music |
| 18:24.53 | SunSparc | Yeah, got it on that "Delerium" station on Pandora. Good stuff. |
| 18:25.50 | SunSparc | "Go away, before we taunt you a second time!" |
| 18:26.00 | SunSparc | Name that movie. |
| 18:26.16 | mindjuju | ~frenchtaunt SunSparc |
| 18:26.17 | jbot | ACTION summons the french taunter! SunSparc is an English bedwetting type! |
| 18:26.26 | mindjuju | ~frenchassault SunSparc |
| 18:26.27 | jbot | ACTION summons the french taunter! SunSparc, I unclog my nose in your direction, sons of a window-dresser! I wave my private parts at your aunties, you heaving lot of second hand electric donkey bottom biters! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a! |
| 18:26.40 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:26.48 | mindjuju | personally programmed those in |
| 18:26.49 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:26.59 | mindjuju | them's macnewbold 's favs |
| 18:27.14 | SunSparc | "second hand electric donkey bottom biters" <- lol |
| 18:28.14 | mindjuju | SunSparc - My sister once got bitten by a moose once |
| 18:28.39 | SunSparc | Ouch! That does not sound pleasant. |
| 18:31.47 | mgeary | don't you mean møøse? |
| 18:31.54 | mindjuju | ah mgeary! |
| 18:31.56 | mgeary | or was it a llama? |
| 18:31.58 | mindjuju | i knew you'd know! |
| 18:32.20 | mindjuju | SunSparc - that line is a quote from MP: Holy Grail, at the beginning |
| 18:32.22 | mindjuju | in the subtitles |
| 18:32.30 | mindjuju | mgeary - have good news for you |
| 18:32.44 | mindjuju | i've decided to no longer buy toys at Wal-Mart. |
| 18:32.47 | SunSparc | I must need to re-watch it. It has been a while. |
| 18:33.02 | mindjuju | Having recently gone into Toys R Us, I realized, all children deserve to go into a toy store and see options |
| 18:33.06 | mindjuju | not just the top 4 things |
| 18:33.12 | mindjuju | and get to play around and stuff |
| 18:33.21 | mgeary | heh |
| 18:35.06 | SunSparc | Good call. |
| 18:36.06 | olds | :) |
| 18:36.20 | beandog | I miss the other store |
| 18:36.21 | beandog | what was it |
| 18:36.23 | beandog | the kangaroo one |
| 18:36.32 | SunSparc | KB? |
| 18:37.11 | mindjuju | don't know if i know a kangaroo one |
| 18:38.02 | beandog | SunSparc, thats it! |
| 18:38.08 | beandog | no |
| 18:38.09 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:38.10 | beandog | not KB |
| 18:38.17 | beandog | KB is like a mall store |
| 18:38.18 | beandog | tehre was this one |
| 18:38.20 | SunSparc | :( |
| 18:38.21 | beandog | that was as big as toys r us |
| 18:38.25 | beandog | huge warehouse store |
| 18:38.29 | beandog | I remember a kangaroo was their mascot |
| 18:38.35 | beandog | ~vague childhood memories |
| 18:38.45 | fungus | Lionel Playworld |
| 18:38.55 | mgeary | woah, good call |
| 18:39.41 | fungus | That sure does take me back. :) |
| 18:40.00 | beandog | that's it |
| 18:50.30 | beandog | I just shake my keyboard upside down when I'm hungry. |
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| 18:53.27 | SunSparc | Gross beandog !! |
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| 18:56.42 | beandog | heh |
| 18:56.45 | beandog | I was wondering if anyone would get that |
| 18:57.49 | mindjuju | pretty sad video of girl getting busted for going out with a guy she met on myspace |
| 18:57.51 | mindjuju | http://www.break.com/index/sister-busted.html |
| 18:58.06 | mindjuju | especially sad when you see that more than 1.5 million views on this |
| 18:58.15 | mindjuju | Caution - 1 bad word in the vid |
| 18:58.21 | mindjuju | that i noticed |
| 18:59.31 | beandog | boy thats one thing Id never admit to. |
| 19:30.54 | beandog | is there a way to tell what charset a table is using in mysql |
| 19:31.29 | timinator | PMA++ |
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| 19:32.11 | timinator | I'm sure there is, cause phpMyAdmin will show ya automatically |
| 19:32.23 | beandog | right |
| 19:32.29 | beandog | but |
| 19:32.30 | herlo | timinator: I was thinking of another acronym for you, PIMA |
| 19:32.30 | beandog | geez. |
| 19:32.38 | thebigdog | anyone know of a utility like wget for windows...i dont have the ability to install cygwin |
| 19:32.39 | timinator | LOL |
| 19:32.45 | timinator | I've been called that before |
| 19:32.51 | herlo | thebigdog: wget.exe |
| 19:32.57 | herlo | it exists |
| 19:33.00 | wps | beandog: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/show-character-set.html |
| 19:33.10 | thebigdog | nice |
| 19:33.23 | beandog | wps, yes, thats showing the possible values |
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| 19:33.30 | beandog | not what the table has. |
| 19:33.32 | wps | I thought you could pass a table to it |
| 19:33.36 | wps | dang |
| 19:33.37 | wps | sorry |
| 19:34.04 | beandog | theres gotta be a way to do it |
| 19:34.07 | beandog | mysql docs are so bare. |
| 19:34.21 | wps | and hard to read |
| 19:34.40 | beandog | thanks tho |
| 19:34.42 | wps | well, not hard to read, but hard to scan |
| 19:35.16 | mindjuju | thebigdog |
| 19:35.22 | mindjuju | hold on that wget.exe for a sec |
| 19:35.41 | thebigdog | k |
| 19:35.41 | thebigdog | whatz up |
| 19:35.41 | mindjuju | google is showing possible malware? |
| 19:35.45 | mindjuju | or a link that suggests that it is |
| 19:35.49 | wps | don't click it!!!! |
| 19:35.55 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Have you been getting responses back on the Ironman event? |
| 19:35.57 | mindjuju | 3rd link down says spyware removal |
| 19:36.16 | beandog | why not just go to cygwin.com and download it? |
| 19:36.38 | wps | the real question is why ray is using windows |
| 19:36.39 | SunSparc | Why not just go to opensuse.com and download? |
| 19:36.39 | orsonj | PRAGMA ??? |
| 19:36.48 | beandog | mm, suse. |
| 19:37.35 | mindjuju | weird, it's just that one that says spyware, everything else seems to say its ok |
| 19:37.43 | mindjuju | sorry about that, just being cautious |
| 19:38.22 | thebigdog | haah |
| 19:38.32 | thebigdog | i have to use windows in some corporates |
| 19:39.05 | SunSparc | I have to use windows to play Valve software. |
| 19:39.21 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Did you see my Ironman comment? |
| 19:41.32 | mindjuju | sorry, didn't |
| 19:41.32 | mindjuju | let me scroll back |
| 19:42.41 | mindjuju | still waiting to see response. There have been several inquiries, one large, but not near the volume we'd need. Paramount also has a concern i need to hammer with them on |
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| 19:44.08 | beandog | what concern is that |
| 19:44.18 | beandog | that we're going to bring our camera phones and record the thing in glorious 80x24 resolution? |
| 19:44.36 | wps | ha ha ah ha ha ha ha ha |
| 19:44.36 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 19:45.49 | SunSparc | mindjuju: I have put the word out at mediaRAIN and some of us are UFlash members. I did not see an announcement on Plug yet. |
| 19:49.48 | wps | those freenode network alerts have to be written by a woman |
| 19:50.36 | orsonj | yep, has that ring to it. |
| 19:50.56 | wps | if it were a guy, it'd be "yoâ¦Â we're rebootingâ¦Â going down" instead of "hi everyone! hope your day is going well! hate to inconvenience you but we are performing a little routine maintenance" |
| 19:51.08 | wps | :) |
| 19:51.23 | _psychic_ | if it were a guy, there wouldn't *be* a notice. :) |
| 19:51.29 | wps | nothing wrong with it at allâ¦Â just always makes me chuckle |
| 19:51.36 | wps | _psychic_: true |
| 19:52.34 | orsonj | or, it would be: I'm required to give you notice, so here is your notice. |
| 19:53.27 | wps | hope I didn't offend swb |
| 19:54.58 | orsonj | well, tierra didn't |
| 19:54.58 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 19:58.35 | bradym | thebigdog: i saw you said you couldn't install cygwin? we just rename setup.exe to cygwin.exe and are able to install cygwin no prob.. but there is a wget.exe out there seperate from cygwin |
| 19:58.50 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 19:59.06 | thebigdog | they dont want it all installed is the issue |
| 19:59.09 | fungus | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:59.21 | bradym | oh.. |
| 19:59.35 | thebigdog | yeah and they have this too |
| 19:59.45 | thebigdog | http://www.jensroesner.de/wgetgui/#down |
| 20:00.22 | bradym | woah |
| 20:00.34 | bradym | that looks intimidating |
| 20:00.55 | thebigdog | ill try it out and see |
| 20:01.06 | bradym | so many options! |
| 20:01.13 | fungus | eek. |
| 20:02.28 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: I use the gnuwin32 tools that fungus pointed out. very handy |
| 20:02.42 | thebigdog | that is what i got |
| 20:02.49 | thebigdog | works like a champ |
| 20:04.34 | bradym | cygwin + console2 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/console/) + cygwin added to PATH environment variable = much better windows command line experience |
| 20:05.47 | thebigdog | bradym, ill have to check console out |
| 20:05.53 | thebigdog | looks look enough |
| 20:06.28 | bradym | i got sick of not being able to resize my command prompt, and found it as a result.. it can do much more than that though |
| 20:07.32 | SunSparc | Back when I used windows, I loved PuTTY for my terminal. |
| 20:09.20 | tierra | orsonj++ |
| 20:09.23 | tierra | hehe |
| 20:09.27 | mgeary | you gotta tilde it |
| 20:09.29 | fungus | I just ran a local X server on windows and ran all my good unix tools on top of windows. |
| 20:09.30 | mgeary | ~orsonj++ |
| 20:09.33 | mgeary | ~karma orsonj |
| 20:09.33 | jbot | orsonj has karma of 1 |
| 20:09.39 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 20:09.39 | jbot | mgeary has neutral karma |
| 20:09.42 | mgeary | what??! |
| 20:09.49 | mgeary | apparently karma has a slow leak |
| 20:10.03 | jsmith | ~karma jsmith |
| 20:10.03 | jbot | jsmith has karma of 12 |
| 20:10.05 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 20:10.09 | mgeary | psssssssssssssssssssssssssst |
| 20:10.17 | mgeary | that's your karma deflating |
| 20:10.17 | PoeticIntensity | ~mgeary++ |
| 20:10.30 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma mgeary |
| 20:10.30 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 1 |
| 20:10.32 | jsmith | mgeary: Where do you hide the valve stem? |
| 20:10.33 | PoeticIntensity | woot! |
| 20:10.39 | mgeary | ~karma billgates |
| 20:10.39 | jbot | billgates has karma of 2 |
| 20:10.43 | mgeary | wth |
| 20:11.10 | mgeary | jbot, you've been fired as tracker-of-karma |
| 20:11.31 | PoeticIntensity | ~fire jbot |
| 20:11.32 | jbot | I'm sorry, jbot, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 20:11.41 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:11.55 | SunSparc | jbot, you just fired yourself! |
| 20:12.14 | fungus | ~execute jbot |
| 20:12.29 | bradym | ~billgates-- |
| 20:12.39 | PoeticIntensity | ~billgates-- |
| 20:12.44 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma billgates |
| 20:12.44 | jbot | billgates has neutral karma |
| 20:12.47 | PoeticIntensity | bah... |
| 20:12.50 | bradym | ~billgates-- |
| 20:12.50 | PoeticIntensity | should be negative 1 |
| 20:12.55 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma billgates |
| 20:12.55 | jbot | billgates has karma of -1 |
| 20:12.59 | PoeticIntensity | woot! |
| 20:13.08 | bradym | that's better |
| 20:13.11 | bradym | :) |
| 20:13.27 | SunSparc | while (billgates) { ~billgates--; } |
| 20:13.39 | bradym | lol |
| 20:14.00 | bradym | jbot will be busy calculating bills karma for the rest of eternity |
| 20:14.07 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 20:14.16 | SunSparc | That is a humorous thought. |
| 20:14.25 | SunSparc | Poor jbot |
| 20:15.13 | fungus | ~karma billgates |
| 20:15.13 | jbot | billgates has karma of -1 |
| 20:15.34 | SunSparc | ~billgates-- |
| 20:16.17 | fungus | ~karma SunSparc |
| 20:16.17 | jbot | sunsparc has karma of 3 |
| 20:16.33 | SunSparc | Hmm, not bad |
| 20:16.43 | _psychic_ | ~badkarma-- |
| 20:16.50 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 20:16.57 | SunSparc | ~karma badkarma |
| 20:16.57 | jbot | badkarma has karma of -1 |
| 20:16.59 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:17.35 | _psychic_ | ~goodkarma++ |
| 20:17.46 | _psychic_ | ~electrons--- |
| 20:17.49 | _psychic_ | ~protons++ |
| 20:17.56 | _psychic_ | ~neutrons+- |
| 20:18.03 | thebigdog | bradym, that console2 is killer nice |
| 20:18.05 | fungus | ~karma neutrons |
| 20:18.05 | jbot | neutrons has neutral karma |
| 20:18.09 | fungus | lol |
| 20:18.13 | SunSparc | _psychic_: you are having too much fun |
| 20:18.27 | bradym | thebigdog: isn't it great? just wish i'd have found it much sooner |
| 20:18.36 | _psychic_ | :) |
| 20:18.45 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 20:18.57 | thebigdog | i love the tabs and how you can set them up to different terminals |
| 20:19.52 | SunSparc | Oh, is that the KDE console app? |
| 20:20.00 | SunSparc | That was a good one. |
| 20:21.42 | bradym | nope, it's a windows app |
| 20:21.52 | bradym | http://sourceforge.net/projects/console/ |
| 20:22.21 | _psychic_ | ~apathy+- |
| 20:22.29 | _psychic_ | ~karmachameleon-- |
| 20:22.44 | SunSparc | bradym: |
| 20:22.55 | bradym | _psychic_: you're having way too much fun ;) |
| 20:23.09 | _psychic_ | ~deadhorse------------------ |
| 20:23.26 | _psychic_ | k I'm done |
| 20:24.42 | SunSparc | bradym: Yeah, it looks a bit like the KDE Konsole app. |
| 20:24.52 | SunSparc | ~karma deadhorse |
| 20:24.52 | jbot | deadhorse has neutral karma |
| 20:27.26 | bradym | wouldn't suprise me at all if it was inspired by Konsole |
| 20:29.23 | thebigdog | it seems like it is |
| 20:29.46 | SunSparc | That must mean it is good. :) |
| 20:29.52 | wps | $trailmix++; |
| 20:29.59 | thebigdog | however i'm not a big kde fan |
| 20:30.04 | thebigdog | i love xfce the best |
| 20:30.08 | thebigdog | or icewm |
| 20:30.56 | wps | if(in_array($stomach, $trailmix)) { $wade == 'happy'; } |
| 20:31.50 | orsonj | this sfce looks like a nice improvement on xfce he remembers |
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| 20:32.29 | SunSparc | wps: you are not hungry are you, by chance? |
| 20:32.38 | wps | not anymore! |
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| 20:33.07 | SunSparc | I guess $trailmix was in_array $stomach then. |
| 20:33.28 | SunSparc | _psychic_: bless you |
| 20:33.34 | _psychic_ | thx |
| 20:45.35 | PoeticIntensity | yo, thebigdog, I've been searching, but I'm having a hard time figuring out the data type for "bigint" in postgresql. |
| 20:45.52 | PoeticIntensity | I'm trying to put a 12-char integer into an "integer" field type, and it says it's out of bounds. |
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| 20:46.29 | PoeticIntensity | hrm.... docs say it should work. |
| 21:01.05 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, how are you putting it into the database? |
| 21:01.19 | PoeticIntensity | insert statement. |
| 21:01.36 | PoeticIntensity | evidently phppgadmin doesn't have the "bigint" support in its GUI. |
| 21:01.38 | thebigdog | what is the number? |
| 21:01.39 | PoeticIntensity | so I just did it by hand and it worked. |
| 21:01.45 | PoeticIntensity | it's 12 digits. |
| 21:01.51 | thebigdog | yeah it has the bigint |
| 21:02.02 | PoeticIntensity | it appears to be working now. |
| 21:02.06 | thebigdog | this is the range - -9223372036854775808 to 9223372036854775807 |
| 21:02.07 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for the help, though. |
| 21:02.11 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 21:02.13 | PoeticIntensity | woah. |
| 21:02.16 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... big numbers. |
| 21:02.17 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Did you file a bug report? |
| 21:02.38 | PoeticIntensity | lemme make sure it's not there. |
| 21:02.39 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:03.13 | PoeticIntensity | ah, freak... I'm an id10t. |
| 21:03.16 | PoeticIntensity | it's there. |
| 21:03.18 | PoeticIntensity | I'm blind. |
| 21:04.49 | PoeticIntensity | bah... |
| 21:04.52 | PoeticIntensity | now everything is blurry. |
| 21:04.59 | PoeticIntensity | maybe I'm just tired..... |
| 21:05.02 | PoeticIntensity | or hopped up on caffeine. |
| 21:05.23 | SunSparc | Time for a break. PoeticIntensity, go play some foosball. |
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| 21:20.04 | SunSparc | _psychic_: That event.observe JS stuff is pretty darn cool. |
| 21:20.16 | SunSparc | I have not used that before. |
| 21:22.11 | _psychic_ | unobtrusive is the way to go |
| 21:22.23 | _psychic_ | never mix business logic in the presentation layer |
| 21:22.33 | _psychic_ | and never mix behavior in your document structure |
| 21:22.47 | SunSparc | Words to live by. |
| 22:07.15 | josephscott | ping herlo |
| 22:12.55 | fungus | lol |
| 22:27.16 | thebigdog | no doubt |
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| 22:52.47 | brasto | mindjuju: i think i'd like to go to the ironman event. what's the count so far? |
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| 22:58.05 | brasto | lemme know tomorrow mindjuju |
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| 22:58.23 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys..... and tierra |
| 22:58.27 | timinator | :) |
| 23:05.28 | SunSparc | Night all!! |
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| 23:09.32 | beandog | it's a great day for granola |
| 23:09.47 | mindjuju | or a gondola |
| 23:10.20 | beandog | I guess fungus disagrees |
| 23:12.23 | mindjuju | so if you were going to store URLs in a database, and run queries off them, any special advice |
| 23:12.28 | mindjuju | besides using an index? |
| 23:15.43 | bradym | make sure you standardize how they are being stored |
| 23:15.55 | bradym | ie: do you have http:// at the beginning? or do you leave it off? |
| 23:16.06 | bradym | do you include the extension? |
| 23:16.12 | bradym | just set a standard and stick to it |
| 23:16.18 | beandog | yah, just standardize em |
| 23:16.23 | beandog | or youll have a world of pain. |
| 23:16.30 | bradym | yep |
| 23:16.57 | mindjuju | leave it off |
| 23:16.59 | mindjuju | use extension |
| 23:17.16 | mindjuju | k |
| 23:21.55 | bradym | depending on what you're doing, you can even leave the domain name off and just use a relative path.. instead of example.com/dir1/dir2/page.htm you could do just dir1/dir2/page.htm |
| 23:22.30 | bradym | makes it nice for a dev and testing environments where you want the links to point to the local copy for testing / QA instead of the live site |
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