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00:51.29mindjujuugh, what a day
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14:34.12oldsg' mornin
14:35.57Utah_Davemorning
14:42.01mindjujusup gents
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14:59.56mindjujuand save the screen real estate
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15:01.36fungusCan you have pidgin live in the systray?
15:01.53mindjujuyeah, pidgin is down there
15:02.24mindjujubut wish i could devote like a quarter of one screen to toolbar / pidgin / rss reader
15:03.00mindjujui wonder why google doesn't have something in their google gadgets that interfaces with google reader
15:03.05mindjujuor google accounts
15:04.14fungusIs that toolbar like Dashboard, or Vista's gadgets?
15:05.09fungusWait... You have 4 screens, and you are complaining about the size of pidgin??  WTF?  :)
15:05.12mindjujuhaven't seen dashboard nor vista gadgets
15:05.34mindjujuyeah, tis true, 4 screens
15:05.38mindjujuat 1600 x 1200
15:05.47mindjujubut i need More Space!
15:05.51mindjujuor better optimized
15:06.00mindjujuor.... a new screen to handle it
15:06.06funguslol
15:06.06oldswhat kind of display setups do the developers at your guys' companies have
15:06.48fungusOnly 2 screens.  Unless you are a special sysadmin, and you might get 3.
15:07.22mindjujubarely any space to see anything
15:08.11mindjujufungus, dashboard appears to be Mac only
15:08.16mindjujuwonder if there is something for winders
15:08.28fungusYes, that is what the gadgets are
15:08.35fungusVista only though
15:09.17fungusor if you are still on XP, you can use a 3rd party app.
15:09.19fungushttp://widgets.yahoo.com/
15:10.56oldsI have one
15:10.58oldsyes one
15:11.06olds17" lcd
15:11.39oldsI guess they ordered us some dual monitor cards
15:11.47oldsand extra monitors
15:13.04fungusThat's good.  I have 2 19" LCDs for my main desktop and another for experiments
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15:15.10brasto~lart google talk for making it so i have to create a smaller size buddy icon just for them
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15:16.17mindjujucurious, DexterTheDragon andBlack_Chaos coexisting?  i would have thought one would have been annihilated
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15:44.41herloswb: hi!!!
15:44.49swbhi
15:44.57herlo:) good to see you
15:45.16herlowell, its good so see your letters, swb
15:45.32swbhehe
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15:54.28timinatorsup guys
15:54.51orsonjmornin'
15:55.08swbmorning timinator
15:57.27timinatorswb: are you still back east?
15:57.43swbnoy yet back east actually
15:57.49swbbut planning to move this year
15:57.52swb:)
15:57.55timinatorah
15:58.04timinatorwill miss ya
15:58.14swbaw shucks
15:58.21timinatorlol
15:58.43swbI will have to start a new php users group where ever I land
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16:04.34oldsswb: you guys ever fill that position?
16:08.20timinatorswb: fo sho
16:08.27timinatoror just chat w/ us
16:08.30timinator*shrug
16:10.31mindjujumacnewbold - are you and your crew coming to Geek Lunch?
16:10.57josephscottmindjuju: should I rsvp with you or the just add myself to the upcoming page?
16:11.06mindjujueither is fine, your call
16:11.15mindjujuwhich reminds me, got to update my pic for that profile
16:12.14mindjujujosephscott - i think this time around, Geek Lunch is going to be a hoot!
16:12.33mindjujunot that the others aren't
16:12.40mindjujuhey fungus, you're going, aren't you?
16:12.41josephscottwould give me an excuse to visit the apple store afterwards
16:13.06mindjujuactually, i think i'd like to see the place, i hear you get a "shopping assistant"
16:14.12josephscottat the apple store?
16:14.18mindjujuyeah
16:14.21josephscottI just like to go in and play with the toys :-)
16:14.44mindjujuhmmm, maybe it is at The Mac Store
16:14.55josephscottmindjuju: count me in for the lunch
16:15.01mindjujuawesome!
16:15.38swbolds, I don't think it's been filled
16:16.39swbolds: http://myriad.iapplicants.com/ViewJob-10763.html
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16:17.54Consolashello everyone
16:17.56Consolasgot a chalenge
16:17.58Consolashttp://pastebin.com/m1a70ba42
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16:26.19mgearyConsolas: so, what's the problem?
16:28.20Consolascant sort out the results..
16:28.22Consolashow can i do that?
16:28.30Consolasive got the recursive diriterator working fine
16:28.37Consolasbut i need to sort out the results...
16:28.38Consolasby name
16:28.55mgearywell, you may have a problem there. As i understand it, an iterator *emulates* an array, but is not an array
16:29.08mgearywhich means that you don't have access to all the data up front
16:29.12mgearywhich means you can't really sort
16:29.29mgearyyou may have to iterate through, collect all your entries into an true array and sort and use that :/
16:29.56mgearybut tell me this-- why isn't it sorting by name already?
16:30.19mgearyi would have thought that the directory iterator would get the files sorted, just like "ls -al" does
16:31.00Consolasyeah, first i thought it could be a problem with the server (!!) but know, server has all directorys sorted out
16:31.26fungusmindjuju: yes I am coming to Geek Lunch
16:31.33mgearywait, are you even using that iterator? lower down in your code you've got a non-oop approach defined
16:45.35Consolasthe last "class" was implemented a few minutes ago
16:45.40Consolasjust to try to save the sort out situation
16:45.47Consolasforget that now
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17:03.35timinatorQuestion for the MySQL gurus out there
17:03.45timinatorI want to combine 2 queries
17:04.09timinatorI've got 2 tables.... orders and items
17:04.23timinatorthere can be multiple items for each order
17:04.45timinatorso, my first query searches for certain criteria in both tables
17:04.58timinatorproduct search, order date, whatever
17:05.31timinatorthen my second query, pulls the data for all order_id's identified in the first query
17:06.34timinatorI have to have 2 separate queries, because if there is a product search, let's say, then only 1 of the multiple items will match.... but I'll need to display the entire order
17:07.34timinatoris there a way to push multiple results from one query to another query using UNION or something??
17:07.50timinatorif not, I can make it work in PHP
17:07.52timinator*shrug
17:08.40_psychic_sure you need two queries?
17:09.19herlowhoa!
17:09.54timinatoryes.... here's a scenero.... if you go to Best Buy, and order an iPod, a Case, and Headphones.....
17:10.07timinatorthen we store that Order as Order #1
17:10.19timinatorwith Items 1-3
17:10.30_psychic_k
17:10.36timinatorwell, if I'm doing a search for iPod sales
17:11.13timinatorthen it'll return the `item` entry for the iPod, and attach the `order` entry
17:11.22timinatorbut it won't pull the other 2 items
17:11.26timinatorcause they don't match
17:11.30_psychic_because they're not Ipods
17:11.40timinatorso, I need to have the first query pull Order ##s
17:11.59timinatorthen, have another query that pulls all data for those orders
17:12.08_psychic_I don't understand why you'd want headphones to show up when you're looking for iPods
17:13.09timinatorbecause I want to show those "orders".... so it'll show more info than just the iPod portion
17:13.42timinatorso it'll show what composed the $700 price tag for a $500 iPod
17:13.48timinatoretc
17:14.06timinatorthe actual scenario is a bit more complex
17:14.15timinatorproducts are being shipped
17:14.16SunSparcWhy not just query for the order and all items for that order?
17:14.43timinator....
17:15.09SunSparcAre items in orders stored in a separate table for historical purposes or are you referring to the items in the live catalog?
17:15.43timinatorno... in an order entry system
17:16.06timinatorhere's what I'd like to do...... in code
17:16.49SunSparcSo the order entry system is separate from the catalog.  Different databases?
17:18.18timinator( SELECT order_id FROM `items` WHERE prod_id = 55 ) | ( SELECT t1.*, t2.* FROM `orders` as t1, `items` as t2 WHERE t1.id = $i AND t1.id = t2.order_id )
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17:18.22timinatorsomething like that
17:18.37timinatorcatalog??
17:18.47timinatordon't follow ya SunSparc
17:18.48StinkyPete~flip timinator
17:18.49jbotACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|.
17:19.11timinator~flip StinkyPete
17:19.12jbotACTION gives StinkyPete the .|.. ..|.
17:19.13SunSparccatalog = the list of all your products
17:19.36timinatorno, this is separate
17:20.01SunSparcSo all your orders are manually entered?
17:20.57timinatoryes
17:21.05SunSparcAh, I see.
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17:21.42SunSparcSo you are just dealing with an order system entirely by itself.
17:22.52timinatorwell, no.... it's a bit more complex than my example..... I'm just trying to simplify it for my question
17:22.57SunSparcYou can use subqueries.
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17:23.31timinatorI need a subquery that can handle multiple results
17:24.03timinatorrather, a query that can handle multiple results from the subquery
17:24.30SunSparcYou can nest multiple subqueryies.
17:24.39SunSparchttp://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/subqueries.html
17:24.45timinatork, thanks
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17:31.17timinatorand nothing's changed
17:31.18timinator:)
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17:39.01timinatormindjuju: stop playing with the red button on the powerstrip
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17:47.16mindjujusup timinator
17:47.35mindjujuwas trying out a way to optimize one of my screens so that I could run everything i needed
17:47.52mindjujuback from conversation earlier about only having 4 screens to display stuff and there not being enough room
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17:53.32PoeticIntensityhooray!
17:53.51PoeticIntensityToday's the day we're taking the server with my new site live (to the co-lo, fibernet)
17:57.00timinatorsup mindjuju
17:57.03timinatorthat's cool
17:57.10timinatorwas just giving ya a hard time
18:01.15Utah_Davecongrats PoeticIntensity!
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18:06.29Jacob_KerrHey guys how's it going?
18:06.48Jacob_KerrI have a quick question, what's the best way to check and see if a file exist on an external server :)
18:06.54Jacob_Kerrfopen does not seem to be working..
18:07.11Jacob_KerrI want to see if an image exist on another site.
18:08.06orsonjfrom within php I suppose? otherwise you could just open firefox and see otherwise
18:08.22Jacob_Kerrwithin php of course..
18:09.28orsonjcurl might be a better option
18:09.57Jacob_KerrYeah I'm looking into CURL..
18:11.44Jacob_KerrI wonder why fopen is not working..
18:11.56pelaofelizcurl++ -- just pull the headers and you can see
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18:15.01PoeticIntensitythanks, Utah_Dave .... It has me kind of nervous, but I'm way more excited than nervous...
18:15.06PoeticIntensityshould be good times.
18:16.49orsonjI guess another approach might be to use fsockopen
18:29.10Jacob_Kerrdoes getimagesize() not work cross domain?
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20:40.44swbJakob_Kerr, is allow_url_fopen set to 1 in php.ini?
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21:11.15macnewbold~cookie
21:11.29mindjuju~poo macnewbold for breaking the silence
21:11.30jbotACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at macnewbold for breaking the silence
21:11.38macnewbold~monkey mindjuju
21:11.39jbotACTION flings poo at mindjuju
21:11.45mindjujuheh
21:12.01mindjuju\me gets back to work
21:12.07macnewboldhow go things?
21:12.25macnewboldI hear the tuacanos geek lunch got moved?
21:12.25mindjujunuts
21:12.35mindjujutucanos geek lunch next friday
21:12.37macnewboldwhere?
21:12.39mindjujunot tomorrow
21:12.41macnewbold~squirrel mindjuju
21:12.41jbotACTION send killer squirrels to attack mindjuju
21:12.42mindjujuSLC
21:12.51macnewboldnice
21:12.53mindjujulike 4 blocks from you AFAIK
21:13.04macnewboldyep
21:13.08macnewboldalmost close enough to walk
21:13.14macnewboldwe'll probably take trax
21:13.22mindjujufo sho, would love to swing by and play a little wii before going home
21:13.22macnewboldnoon?
21:13.25mindjuju1p
21:13.43macnewboldyeah, that would rock - we've got the xbox here at the moment, or the old school Nintendo
21:13.55mindjujuxbox is cool
21:14.00mindjujuhave several at home
21:14.08macnewboldgears of war is their usual, but they have viva pinata down there now too
21:14.56mindjujunever played Gears, but heard good things
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21:52.56wGEricanyone know of a program to download complete websites that is like HTTrack?
21:53.04wGEricHTTrack wasn't capturing the URL correctly for the form I need to submit to log in
21:53.08SunSparcwget
21:54.20wGEriccan I send post requests through it?
21:55.19SunSparcI do not understand the question.  wget and HTTrack both read/copy files from the web.  What are you trying to do with a form?
21:56.11wGEricneed to log into the site and get what is behind the form
21:56.19wpsyou'll nee CURL then
21:56.43wGEricthanks
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22:03.03wGEriccurl's not recursive :(
22:03.35SunSparccurl and then wget, perhaps...
22:12.56mgearywget does a great job of that
22:12.58macnewboldwget rocks
22:13.36macnewbolddepending on how it logs in and stores the fact that you're logged in (i.e. session cookie perhaps?) you might be able to use wget anyway
22:13.42macnewboldit can do cookies and stuff, or http auth, etc.
22:15.58oldsiirc you can manually setup curl to use a session id
22:16.10oldserr session cookie
22:16.39wpsI just accidently did an update on my SVN trunk
22:16.43wpsis there any way to undo that?
22:16.50oldscurl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_COOKIEJAR, 'cookie.txt');
22:17.01oldsan update?
22:17.08wpssvn update
22:17.08oldsand it overwrote uncommited changes?
22:17.13wpsyes
22:17.18oldsyea, you're sol
22:17.21oldssry
22:17.22wpskl;a dfjals;dhjfa
22:17.28wpssuck
22:17.32oldsyea
22:17.37oldshonestly though
22:17.39oldsit should have merged them
22:17.42oldsor created conflicts
22:17.45wpsyeah… they are merged
22:17.47wpsbut now I have a mess
22:18.18oldsyou could make copies of the files you changed
22:18.27oldsdo an svn revert to undo your uncomiited chnages
22:18.39oldsand then compare your files
22:18.49oldsactually, you can do that without those steps
22:18.53oldsjust do an svn diff
22:18.57oldsso you can see your changes
22:18.58wGEricmacnewbold: it looks like it is using some method in JSP, no cookies except a JSESSIONID cookie is set
22:19.24macnewboldyou can do it with wget probably then - just get your wget to send the JSESSIONID cookie with its requests
22:19.35oldsyea
22:19.36macnewboldi.e. log in manually, then give wget the cookie
22:19.39oldsI'd use wget
22:19.55oldshttp://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.curl-setopt.php
22:19.59oldslook at the cookie stuff on that page
22:26.10PoeticIntensitysorry to barge in, but I've got a quick question...
22:26.27PoeticIntensityin VIM, how do I block-select about 12 lines and do a copy / paste with it?
22:26.27wGEricit appears to be working, thanks guys
22:26.48SunSparcPoeticIntensity:  ^V ?
22:26.57SunSparcI mean ^v
22:27.01SunSparcI think
22:27.09PoeticIntensityso... shift-6 and then v?
22:27.32orsonjShift-V
22:27.48SunSparcCtrl-v
22:27.54PoeticIntensityokay.... shift v selected the lines...
22:28.23orsonjy copies
22:28.37orsonjp pastes
22:28.54PoeticIntensityperfect!  Thanks!
22:29.13PoeticIntensity(putting the new naturesway.com site up now, and I've gotta copy some virtual host crud in apache...)  so THANKS!
22:29.20orsonjnp
22:34.58fungusIt could have also been stated like this:  V11jy11jp
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22:44.09brastois there a parallels for Linux?
22:44.48_psychic_wine
22:44.50_psychic_(sorta)
22:46.09SunSparcVMWare
22:46.25josephscotthttp://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
22:47.21timinator_I'm out guys..... late
22:47.23brastoi've used wine, but it's to run windows apps in linux, not to run windows itself inside linux without rebooting.
22:47.33brasto~wine
22:47.33jbotEmulator of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs.. URL: http://www.winehq.com/, or a good way of curing the aches and pains of a systems integrator, or not half as good as beer, or best served in a clean wine glass after supper, or comes in may colours and flavors
22:48.18brasto~wine is also . Stands for wine is not an emulator.
22:48.19jbotACTION pours is also . Stands for wine is not an emulator. a glass of the very best pinot noir from the cellar
22:48.24brasto?
22:48.27brasto~wine
22:48.28jbotEmulator of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs.. URL: http://www.winehq.com/, or a good way of curing the aches and pains of a systems integrator, or not half as good as beer, or best served in a clean wine glass after supper, or comes in may colours and flavors
22:48.28SunSparcAnd you want to run Windows?
22:48.31brastoah...
22:48.49brastotilde wine <action> must be defined...
22:49.53fungusbrasto, VMware player and workstation have linux versions.
22:50.49brastothanks fungus, i'll look into it, though it'll have to wait 'till i get home.
22:53.54fungusplayer is free (small f), Workstation is not
22:54.58fungusWorkstation is $189
22:58.40brastocool
22:59.18brastoif i want to open a zipped file to view it's contents without extracting it on a Mac, what do i do?
22:59.44fungustar -ztvf file.tar.gz
22:59.55brastolol
22:59.59brastotrue...
23:04.12brastotar doesn't work on an xpi file...
23:04.17brastoduh...
23:05.09fungus.xpi files are zipped, not tarred.
23:07.37brastoright, but you can unzip with tar
23:07.46brastoand doesn't -z mean unzip?
23:08.03brastoor was it for gzip?
23:08.08brastogunzip
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