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| 14:38.43 | timinator | morning guys |
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| 15:06.04 | mgeary | ~waylay PoeticIntensity |
| 15:06.11 | PoeticIntensity | eh'? |
| 15:06.16 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart mgeary |
| 15:06.16 | jbot | whips out his power stapler and staples mgeary's foot to the floor |
| 15:06.22 | PoeticIntensity | woot! |
| 15:06.47 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity - sup |
| 15:06.53 | mindjuju | haven't seen you around in a while |
| 15:06.59 | PoeticIntensity | went on vacation. |
| 15:07.09 | PoeticIntensity | www.ilovemyjournal.com for the complete play-by-play. :) |
| 15:07.10 | mindjuju | way cool |
| 15:07.15 | PoeticIntensity | well.... sorta. |
| 15:07.28 | PoeticIntensity | it was a vacation I..... didn't plan for.... or wanna take. :-\ |
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| 15:07.47 | PoeticIntensity | ended up being pretty okay, though. |
| 15:07.54 | mindjuju | Colorado! |
| 15:08.06 | mindjuju | was thinking about making that trip last summer/fall |
| 15:08.16 | mindjuju | didn't get around to it, but was thinking about it |
| 15:08.26 | mindjuju | was going to go to Estes Park (reputed to have trees) |
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| 15:11.51 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity - looking at the pics, that mohawk is starting to really fill out |
| 15:12.03 | mindjuju | are you going to take it to cones or let it grow out more? |
| 15:12.32 | mindjuju | picture that shows - http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/media/1/0408_3.jpg |
| 15:12.33 | mgeary | how do you get ntpd to correct itself? |
| 15:15.27 | mindjuju | mgeary - is that the ntp daemon ? |
| 15:15.31 | mgeary | yeah |
| 15:15.51 | mgeary | i've got a server where ntpd wasn't running for some reason, and it's now several hours off. i've started ntpd, but the time is still off |
| 15:16.00 | mgeary | does it "drift" back to the correct time? |
| 15:16.15 | mgeary | ah |
| 15:16.16 | mgeary | apparently so |
| 15:16.22 | mgeary | it's gaining several minutes every minute |
| 15:20.15 | mgeary | yeah, it's fixed now |
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| 15:42.52 | fungus | mgeary: when ntpd is too far off from tolerances it will no longer adjust the clock. |
| 15:43.16 | fungus | You must stop ntpd, and set the clock yourself "ntpdate ntp.server.com" |
| 15:43.26 | fungus | Then restart ntpd and it will keep going from there. |
| 15:46.23 | mgeary | it's fine now. it appears that ntpd will correct over time if it's within tolerances, not necessarily all at once |
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| 16:04.12 | olds | great track |
| 16:09.26 | _psychic_ | anyone here use thesixtyone.com ? |
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| 16:11.20 | mindjuju | don't |
| 16:11.34 | mindjuju | looks interesting |
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| 16:16.19 | brasto | we need another random lart added to jbot's lart collection just for mgeary. Something like "places $1 into the authorize.net queue for hours with no way to escape"... |
| 16:16.47 | timinator | Bob Marley++ |
| 16:16.50 | synic | ~addlart |
| 16:17.34 | brasto | ~addlart places $1 into the authorize.net queue for hours with no way to escape. |
| 16:19.16 | synic | bah |
| 16:19.19 | synic | ~lart jbot |
| 16:19.19 | jbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets synic feel it |
| 16:19.34 | mindjuju | wow, backfire |
| 16:19.39 | mindjuju | hate it when that happens |
| 16:19.53 | synic | ~roulette |
| 16:19.53 | jbot | ACTION watches synic pull the trigger: Click! |
| 16:25.33 | PoeticIntensity | anyone in here know how to mount an afp share in Linux? |
| 16:26.06 | PoeticIntensity | (appletalk File Protocol) |
| 16:26.15 | mindjuju | ~beavis PoeticIntensity mount |
| 16:26.16 | jbot | <beavis>PoeticIntensity said mount</beavis> |
| 16:26.31 | PoeticIntensity | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 16:26.32 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 16:26.48 | mindjuju | i love that beavis one |
| 16:31.07 | SunSparc | But I would be curious to know the answer as well. |
| 16:36.55 | wps | are you on a Mac? |
| 16:37.30 | wps | if you are, man diskutil |
| 16:37.37 | SunSparc | I think PoeticIntensity might also be |
| 16:37.39 | synic | http://i28.tinypic.com/2mdgm7c.jpg |
| 16:38.25 | SunSparc | wps: you mean for mounting in OS X or for mounting AFP shares in Linux? |
| 16:38.44 | wps | I assumed you were mounting in Mac OS |
| 16:38.48 | PoeticIntensity | I'm on Linux |
| 16:38.58 | wps | ahâ¦Â sorry |
| 16:39.02 | PoeticIntensity | I'm trying to mount an AFP share coming from a mac onto my Linux box. |
| 16:39.11 | wps | do you have netatalk installed? |
| 16:39.24 | mgeary | holy frigging COW!! |
| 16:39.37 | SunSparc | Moooooo? |
| 16:39.39 | mgeary | i can't freaking beLIEVE authhorize.net |
| 16:39.46 | wps | waitâ¦Â that's to run an AFP server, not mount one |
| 16:39.47 | wps | never mind |
| 16:39.49 | wps | I'll shut up |
| 16:40.24 | mgeary | !@#$!%#@$%@#$%!@#$!@#$!@#$@#$%@#$%@#$%! |
| 16:40.49 | mgeary | so, get this, y'all |
| 16:40.55 | SunSparc | ~tranquilize mgeary |
| 16:40.55 | synic | what, in my experience, they've been so awesome! |
| 16:40.57 | synic | </sarcasm> |
| 16:41.02 | mgeary | want to hear my story? |
| 16:41.11 | wps | let me guess⦠|
| 16:41.13 | SunSparc | Go for it |
| 16:41.27 | wps | it involves Authorize Net |
| 16:41.31 | mgeary | so, first of all, we've got a client with a member/subscription site. Has several thousand customers |
| 16:41.45 | mgeary | they're using a crappy 3rd party for their e-comm. we're building a replacement |
| 16:42.06 | mgeary | but i hate the thought of storing thousands of credit cards in my database. So we look for alternatives |
| 16:42.39 | mgeary | we first find that Authorize.net has this cool new feature, Automated Recurring Billing (ARB). It allows you to define frequency, trial periods, amounts. Awesome |
| 16:43.29 | mgeary | HOWEVER, they left out just one teensy thing. You have to log in to your Auth.net back office to see the transaction results. There's no provision for the ARB system doing a postback (or such) to YOUR application, in case, oh, i dunno, you actually wanted to terminate someone's subscription if their card is declined |
| 16:43.54 | mgeary | idiots |
| 16:44.03 | mgeary | okay, so we have to look for something else |
| 16:44.39 | mgeary | well, Authorize.net has this other nifty feature called Customer Information Manager (CIM). It allows you to create customer profiles and, for each customer, payment profiles, which is basically the credit card info |
| 16:45.03 | mgeary | so, when you want to charge someone, you just create an xml request that has the appropriate cim and payment profile ids, and off you go. it's slick |
| 16:45.13 | mgeary | HOWEVER |
| 16:45.33 | mgeary | while they thought of many things with CIM, they apparently didn't anticipate that you'd ever need to, oh, i dunno, refund a charge |
| 16:45.52 | mgeary | well, at least there's a workaround for that. You can use the crufty old AIM interface and do that. whew |
| 16:46.35 | mgeary | well, so now you're using CIM and you're all happy. However, after creating a person's payment profile, you discover that their address is wrong. "Hey, no problem" you think, i'll just use the handy "updatePaymentProfile" feature |
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| 16:46.56 | mgeary | well, it turns out that you cannot update a payment profile unless you supply, guess what? THE CARD NUMBER!! |
| 16:47.14 | mgeary | gee, remember why you were using CIM in the first place? Wasn't it because YOU DIDN'T WANT TO STORE THE CARD NUMBER??!! |
| 16:47.24 | mgeary | !@#R@#$%##@#$@#!$# |
| 16:47.32 | mgeary | idiots |
| 16:47.56 | PoeticIntensity | amazing... |
| 16:47.59 | brasto | ~lart auth.net for ngeary |
| 16:47.59 | jbot | keeps mailing auth.net free America Online CDs until he drowns for ngeary |
| 16:48.03 | PoeticIntensity | I feel your pain, mgeary |
| 16:48.35 | mgeary | i don't understand how their software architects could possibly feel that those omissions are acceptable |
| 16:48.58 | mgeary | i mean, do they validate against real-world scenarios AT ALL?? |
| 16:49.42 | SunSparc | mgeary: Sounds like their management needs a good stiff letter of rebuke from you. |
| 16:49.54 | SunSparc | brasto: what would you use instead? |
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| 16:50.31 | brasto | checks or cash only |
| 16:50.32 | brasto | jk |
| 16:50.52 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 16:50.54 | brasto | i don't know, i don't have any ecommerse customers yet, so i haven't had to worry about it |
| 16:51.05 | brasto | i'll let mgeary find the right one and use that one. |
| 16:51.24 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:51.39 | brasto | lol |
| 16:52.10 | SunSparc | As mgeary has stated, authorize.net has some slick features and they are a good company. They just need need their products to be baked a bit more. |
| 16:52.30 | mgeary | i'll tell you one thing-- when/if i ever get these issues worked out, i'm going to start advertising my hard-won (and apparently obscure) expertise with Authorize.net and make a fortune building e-commerce systems |
| 16:53.06 | mgeary | SunSparc: i'm not convinced about that "good company" part. They really don't seem to care much about integration developers |
| 16:53.23 | mgeary | they make it very, very hard to get technical support from anyone who has a clue |
| 16:53.38 | SunSparc | mgeary: Good be. |
| 16:53.51 | SunSparc | They used to be better, but they have passed hands so many times. |
| 16:55.28 | SunSparc | Their HQ is just down the street. Perhaps we could all grab some signs (and pitchforks) and stand outside their building looking disgruntled. |
| 16:56.07 | SunSparc | "HEY AUTH NET!!! YEAH YOU!! MORE LOVE FOR THE DEVS!!!" |
| 16:56.22 | mgeary | seriously |
| 17:02.10 | SunSparc | Hide the women and children! |
| 17:07.12 | brasto | wow... anyone see that dragon come out of nowhere? |
| 17:09.06 | SunSparc | Like magic! |
| 17:11.18 | brasto | ~sick SunSparc |
| 17:11.18 | jbot | ACTION fetches Hagrid's Fluffy and sicks Fluffy on SunSparc. |
| 17:11.32 | brasto | cool, i just programmed that one and thought i'd test it on SunSparc |
| 17:11.46 | SunSparc | Sorry, the bubble is impenetrable. |
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| 17:17.09 | brasto | the bubble? |
| 17:17.43 | brasto | ah... the paladin bubble |
| 17:17.51 | brasto | ~dict paladin |
| 17:19.16 | SunSparc | Paladin Bubble, aka Divine Shield -> http://www.wowwiki.com/Divine_Shield |
| 17:21.36 | mindjuju | anybody here familiar with "the gateway" in SLC ? |
| 17:21.45 | fungus | Yes |
| 17:21.50 | fungus | The Apple Store! |
| 17:22.11 | mindjuju | fungus - does this look right? - http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=162+South+400+West,+Salt+Lake+City+Utah&sll=40.70538,-111.79505&sspn=0.007409,0.013433&ie=UTF8&ll=40.766323,-111.902522&spn=0.007403,0.013433&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.765732,-111.902496 |
| 17:22.31 | mindjuju | trying to get a google map for the gateway for this month's geek lunch |
| 17:22.45 | fungus | yup, that's it |
| 17:22.51 | mindjuju | awesome! thx! |
| 17:23.55 | wps | whoa |
| 17:23.56 | wps | weird |
| 17:24.14 | wps | I just put japanese characters into google's chinese to english translator and got this: |
| 17:24.24 | wps | Islam defeated the foreseeable futureã¥And Needle Co., Ltd. |
| 17:24.33 | wps | that's whacked |
| 17:25.42 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 17:25.43 | jbot | ACTION calls baby Lyssa to spray mace at herlo |
| 17:27.47 | PoeticIntensity | yo, css / html gurus... |
| 17:28.10 | PoeticIntensity | any quick references on how to get rid of the horrible space IE automatically puts on top of a <form> tag? |
| 17:28.27 | wps | form { margin: none } |
| 17:28.40 | PoeticIntensity | ah, yes.... I had a feeling you'd know. :) |
| 17:28.43 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 17:30.05 | mindjuju | wow, there were exactly 12 seconds from the time the question was posted to the time the answer was posted, including the time required to show up on wps screen, wps to process, wps to send typing instructions to fingers, fingers to type, data to be posted and me to receive |
| 17:30.18 | mindjuju | wps++ |
| 17:40.04 | PoeticIntensity | no doubt.... wps is the shiz-nigget. |
| 17:40.39 | wps | wow, what a title |
| 17:41.20 | brasto | ~shiz-nigget |
| 17:41.28 | brasto | ~dict shiz-nigget |
| 17:41.38 | brasto | ~wiki shiz-nigget |
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| 17:43.24 | trevyn | How many independant contractors do you think outsource there accounting? |
| 17:44.17 | trevyn | What if UPHPU started an accounting firm or headhunter group who helped to manage and outsource some of the talent in UPHPU... would you be interested in using that service? |
| 17:44.55 | trevyn | Quarterly filings/Payroll/Tax withholdings/ legal advisory ect |
| 17:49.16 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 17:49.26 | mindjuju | sorry trevyn, not doing contract right now, but when I did, was running everything through my tax man |
| 17:49.33 | mindjuju | sup herlo, hang on quick sec |
| 17:49.40 | herlo | mindjuju: k, ping back when ready |
| 17:50.29 | brasto | my opinion: uphpu should just stay all non-profit and let other agencies use member profiles of members that wish their info shared. |
| 17:51.26 | trevyn | How easily accessable is that member info |
| 17:51.50 | timinator | my handle is timinator |
| 17:52.01 | timinator | that's about all I'll disclose |
| 17:52.02 | timinator | :) |
| 17:52.47 | timinator | actually, I've disclosed much more than that.... posted photos of my house and everything |
| 17:52.49 | timinator | LOL |
| 17:52.51 | trevyn | How much tim eis spent marketing UPHPU as the premier PHP resource? |
| 17:53.00 | wps | zero |
| 17:53.12 | timinator | we just rock.... word spreads |
| 17:53.27 | SunSparc | UPHPU is it's own marketing tool. |
| 17:54.04 | herlo | haha |
| 17:54.19 | trevyn | Does UPHPU have any expenses |
| 17:54.28 | wps | no |
| 17:54.30 | herlo | trevyn: wps: that's actually not true, I spend time marketing uphpu just as much as any other LUG |
| 17:54.35 | herlo | LUG = Local User Group |
| 17:54.51 | wps | true, herlo, but we do not have any official marketing |
| 17:54.58 | timinator | I talk about UPHPU more than all other UGs combined |
| 17:55.05 | wps | same |
| 17:55.07 | herlo | wps: hehe, yup, fair enough! |
| 17:55.14 | timinator | and I'm part of 6 or so |
| 17:55.22 | trevyn | Could UPHPU offer some sort of freelancer ubrella? |
| 17:55.28 | herlo | no |
| 17:55.36 | trevyn | For tax/business help ect? |
| 17:55.37 | wps | what is a "freelancer umbrella?" |
| 17:55.53 | SunSparc | Is that a new weather product on ThinkGeek? |
| 17:55.55 | herlo | trevyn: they would have to be a 501c3 or some sort to formalize sttttttttuff like that |
| 17:56.13 | timinator | and what would the point be? |
| 17:56.18 | timinator | most of us freelance |
| 17:56.21 | timinator | w/o problems |
| 17:56.26 | timinator | *shrug |
| 17:56.40 | trevyn | most of us pay too much on taxes as individual LLCs (So I hear) |
| 17:56.40 | timinator | unless wps wants 501c3 benifits |
| 17:56.42 | timinator | :) |
| 17:56.51 | wps | no, I am not interested in the group being involved in anything like that officially |
| 17:56.52 | trevyn | Benefits/Payroll ect |
| 17:56.57 | timinator | that's why /me is incorporated |
| 17:57.09 | wps | that's just asking for a lawsuit |
| 17:57.11 | trevyn | yes sCrops are better |
| 17:57.26 | wps | we're a user groupâ¦Â not a business or even a non-profit |
| 17:57.30 | SunSparc | sCrops? hehe |
| 17:57.36 | trevyn | I was just thinking becuase you all talk so often even meet together and share work |
| 17:57.50 | brasto | ~scrops |
| 17:57.53 | timinator | but wps.... you could write off your yacht |
| 17:57.58 | trevyn | Why not outsource to the same groups and get volume discoutns. |
| 17:58.04 | wps | sole-proprietorship is the way to go for me |
| 17:58.11 | brasto | jbot, give me a yacht, too! |
| 17:58.11 | jbot | ACTION gives a yacht, too! to brasto |
| 17:58.20 | brasto | sweet! |
| 17:58.26 | trevyn | SunSparc... your pissing me off |
| 17:58.37 | trevyn | I didnt as for smart ass remarks |
| 17:59.00 | SunSparc | A bit touchy. Must be having a bad day. |
| 17:59.07 | brasto | ~calm trevyn |
| 17:59.08 | jbot | ACTION sooths trevyn, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm trevyn down. |
| 17:59.16 | wps | watch your language, trevynâ¦Â this is a PG channel |
| 17:59.24 | trevyn | Sorry. |
| 17:59.51 | SunSparc | OH, and trevyn you signed into #uphpu, so yes, you asked for ALL of our remarks. |
| 17:59.59 | trevyn | That kinda stuff urks me. Im trying really hard to contribute. And be a UG memeber. I struggle with those types. |
| 18:00.12 | herlo | trevyn: if you want to organize something like what you are asking, come help us at UTOSF |
| 18:00.30 | trevyn | Im planning on attending |
| 18:00.35 | herlo | we'll let you design it pretty much how you want, within the law (and reason) of course |
| 18:00.40 | herlo | trevyn: no, not UTOSC |
| 18:00.45 | trevyn | Im not sure I agree on the direction of it yet though. |
| 18:00.57 | herlo | trevyn: UTOSF, the organization behind UTOSC and growth of Open Source in Utah |
| 18:01.03 | herlo | http://utos.org/about/ |
| 18:01.19 | herlo | http://www.utos.org/about-utah-open-source/ |
| 18:01.21 | herlo | woops |
| 18:01.27 | herlo | and it looks like I need to really update that page |
| 18:01.29 | herlo | its old! |
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| 18:01.50 | herlo | trevyn: nm |
| 18:02.09 | trevyn | I was really excited about UTOSF at first |
| 18:02.16 | trevyn | Then I got distracted |
| 18:02.28 | herlo | huh? |
| 18:02.51 | trevyn | I need to go back and look at some of the stuff your doing to see if you and I are going in the same direction |
| 18:02.57 | herlo | k |
| 18:03.01 | trevyn | My last few Ideas didnt gell yet |
| 18:03.08 | trevyn | and I may be the one on the learning curve |
| 18:03.11 | herlo | check out our wiki, http://collective.utos.org for more information |
| 18:05.45 | trevyn | Whoa re the main people helping you? Iss it manly the GL people? |
| 18:06.02 | herlo | no |
| 18:06.12 | herlo | trevyn: we're an independent organization run by volunteers |
| 18:06.24 | herlo | we have sponsors like GL and KnowledgeBlue, Novell, Google and others |
| 18:06.31 | trevyn | Ahh core tem |
| 18:06.32 | trevyn | Core Team |
| 18:06.33 | herlo | DirectPointe |
| 18:06.36 | herlo | yes |
| 18:07.15 | herlo | Xmission will probalby be one of our main sponsors this year as will the LDS Church, Omniture is on my list of to-gets and so is Novell (again) |
| 18:07.57 | herlo | they all sponsor UTOSC, but we benefit them not only at the conference, but throughout the year with our podcasts and websites by putting their logo up and inviting people to visit their sites, etc. |
| 18:13.24 | trevyn | Thats great stuff |
| 18:13.41 | trevyn | I see the Omniture guys fairly often |
| 18:13.54 | trevyn | I am good friends with the guys doing there new build out |
| 18:14.08 | trevyn | Need me to put a bug in there ear? |
| 18:14.28 | brasto | herlo, i've been looking for a utosf hack time on saturday and haven't seen one the past couple weeks. is there one coming soon? |
| 18:14.55 | trevyn | I think you could get sponsership from an accounting / business consulting firm if UPHPU thought they were qualified as a recomendation |
| 18:16.41 | trevyn | I also think may independants would work under an umbrella if they got benefits/ Merchant services ect |
| 18:17.11 | mindjuju | true, there are sites that do that, like freelancer.com, i think that's the name of it |
| 18:17.29 | trevyn | .... |
| 18:17.33 | mindjuju | something like that |
| 18:17.37 | mindjuju | saw it a couple years back |
| 18:17.48 | trevyn | getafreelancer.com and elance.com |
| 18:17.59 | trevyn | thats not what I was thinking exactly |
| 18:18.01 | mindjuju | maybe that is what it was, can't remember |
| 18:18.31 | trevyn | I was thinking that UPHPU could get volume discounts for UV web developers |
| 18:18.37 | trevyn | On many different needs |
| 18:18.54 | trevyn | When businesses compete for that premier recomendation, than all groups win |
| 18:20.44 | trevyn | and the momentum stops.. |
| 18:21.51 | trevyn | Herlo, I have some motivational speakers that could come to theUTOSC |
| 18:25.19 | trevyn | huh? |
| 18:25.42 | mindjuju | i thought it was a funny joke, but i can see i was wrong |
| 18:25.45 | mindjuju | anyhow... |
| 18:26.38 | trevyn | I just put 2 and 2 together, your victor |
| 18:26.56 | mindjuju | yup |
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| 18:28.16 | trevyn | http://lillianmarie.com/wp-content/uploads/13-14weeks/13-14weeks%20007.jpg this is me |
| 18:28.28 | trevyn | and my wife and kid |
| 18:29.07 | mindjuju | awesome pic! |
| 18:29.07 | SunSparc | Cute kid |
| 18:29.33 | trevyn | Thanks. |
| 18:30.24 | trevyn | I have alot of ideas, and I figure I need to get to know the group |
| 18:30.37 | SunSparc | Good idea |
| 18:30.45 | SunSparc | Sorry I was a jerk earlier. |
| 18:31.10 | trevyn | Same |
| 18:31.11 | SunSparc | It happens sometimes. Especially when I am being silly. |
| 18:31.38 | trevyn | My mission president installed a mean streak I have yet to get rid of. |
| 18:31.51 | SunSparc | Hehe, how did he do that? |
| 18:32.33 | trevyn | I was in the office 18 months, and he was... Bobby Knight and I was a red headed step child with " Potential" |
| 18:32.57 | SunSparc | 18 MONTHS?!?! |
| 18:33.00 | SunSparc | Holy cow. |
| 18:33.16 | trevyn | yeah I got called in at 7.5 and extended. |
| 18:33.42 | mindjuju | wow, 18 months... long time, my longest area was 10months |
| 18:33.44 | herlo | trevyn: tell them to submit papers at 2008.utosc.com |
| 18:34.24 | trevyn | herlo, Ill have a few people do that thanks. |
| 18:34.34 | herlo | np |
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| 18:44.44 | Trevyn | Herlo, I dont know if its just me, but your UTOSF informaiton seems very scattered |
| 18:45.34 | herlo | Trevyn: in what sense do you mean scattered? |
| 18:45.51 | herlo | mindjuju: were you going to post something up online about Geek Lunch? |
| 18:46.08 | mindjuju | to uphpu.org, yup, here shortly |
| 18:46.15 | mindjuju | working on that other project for a minute |
| 18:46.23 | mindjuju | but its on the UTC cal |
| 18:47.14 | Trevyn | I have 4 different sites, 2008.utosc.com, utosc.com, utosf.org, collective.utos.org |
| 18:47.34 | herlo | mindjuju: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/470822/ |
| 18:47.45 | herlo | mindjuju: yeah, I added it there |
| 18:47.48 | Trevyn | And I recognize they all are vanilla CMS but kinda hard to get the full picture IMO |
| 18:48.24 | herlo | mindjuju: did you add one on Saturday too? I just deleted it |
| 18:48.45 | herlo | Trevyn: 2008 is the 2008 utosc conferenceeeeeeeee site |
| 18:48.55 | herlo | utosc.com will be going away soon |
| 18:48.57 | wps | it's on the UPHPU calendar, but won't show up until this evening (I cannot post from work due to the firewall) |
| 18:49.18 | herlo | utos(f).org is our blog |
| 18:49.31 | mindjuju | herlo, did i post to Saturday, thought i posted it for Friday |
| 18:49.32 | herlo | and collective.utos.org is our wiki for planning and other items |
| 18:49.40 | herlo | mindjuju: it was already there on Friday :) |
| 18:49.56 | mindjuju | oh, gotcha |
| 18:50.02 | mindjuju | yeah, posted there real quick |
| 18:50.53 | herlo | Trevyn: sounds like we need to fix that. In fact, we are! |
| 18:54.44 | herlo | looks like we're doing chinese foods as well |
| 18:56.44 | mgeary | used to be a good song before Burger King and everyone else and their dog licensed it |
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| 19:08.23 | Trevyn | Herlo, how is Tier4 so close to UPHPU? |
| 19:08.32 | Trevyn | Who are the guys involved with that? |
| 19:10.14 | fungus | Trevyn: that's wps's server hosted at Tier4 |
| 19:10.51 | Trevyn | I work mainly with bluehost and fiber.net |
| 19:11.03 | Trevyn | Probably becuase I dont know anyone involved with Tier4 |
| 19:11.13 | Trevyn | Tier4 is at the Canyon Park Complex corrct? |
| 19:12.03 | Trevyn | And who is OpenBlue? |
| 19:12.16 | wps | tier for has a few data centers |
| 19:12.19 | wps | one is in Orem, yes |
| 19:12.24 | wps | s/for/four/ |
| 19:12.30 | Trevyn | Seems like OpenBlue is a corporate Smoked Company |
| 19:12.46 | wps | "corporate smoked company" ? |
| 19:12.57 | Trevyn | Smoke and Mirrors :) |
| 19:13.09 | wps | ah |
| 19:14.00 | Trevyn | But maybe not |
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| 19:17.13 | Trevyn | Anyone ever do anywork with KnowledgeBlue? |
| 19:17.16 | Trevyn | Herlo? |
| 19:17.32 | Trevyn | Herlo, is this your company? It look like a GL reseller |
| 19:17.48 | bradym | anyone know if it's possible to override the php mail function? |
| 19:18.01 | wps | what do you mean by override? |
| 19:18.57 | bradym | make it always send email to a specific address, or something like that.. on the dev environment for testing |
| 19:19.20 | wps | why not just make a function that does that and then call that function? |
| 19:21.11 | bradym | we're trying to test existing code without rewriting stuff.. much will be rewritten in the future and can do that.. but for now.. |
| 19:21.38 | wps | I know of no way to override a built-in function |
| 19:23.26 | bradym | yeah, i don't either |
| 19:28.12 | thebigdog | wps, in regards to your question you might need to use mod_proxy with it |
| 19:28.25 | Trevyn | Anyone ever do anywork with KnowledgeBlue? |
| 19:28.34 | thebigdog | or you will need to add the full url |
| 19:31.21 | wps | kâ¦Â I will look at those |
| 19:31.29 | wps | I am trying to find a way to do it without the full URL |
| 19:33.36 | bradym | never heard of knowledgeblue.. sorry |
| 19:34.08 | bradym | found a cool way to do similar to what i was looking for: http://blog.phpdoc.info/archives/20-mail-replacement-a-better-hack.html |
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| 19:44.55 | thebigdog | wps you might want to approach it this way |
| 19:45.06 | thebigdog | setup a mod_proxy to go to the correct port |
| 19:45.14 | thebigdog | and then do the rewrite to the proxy url |
| 19:45.23 | thebigdog | that is probably how i would approach it |
| 19:45.29 | Trevyn | clint who reads the submitted papers for UTOSC? |
| 19:51.04 | thebigdog | wps like this http://pastebin.com/d40bc64e4 |
| 19:51.17 | thebigdog | you can make the url "/" be anything you like |
| 19:51.45 | thebigdog | then you just need to do a rewrite to that url to the get proxy hit |
| 19:52.06 | wps | thanks, thebigdog, I'll look at that |
| 19:52.35 | thebigdog | ~great thebigdog |
| 19:53.11 | mindjuju | ~apb olds |
| 19:53.12 | jbot | ACTION summons baby Lyssa to stake out olds |
| 19:53.38 | thebigdog | Trevyn, what are you looking at from them? |
| 19:54.37 | mindjuju | synic |
| 19:54.42 | mindjuju | are you still on ravetrax ? |
| 19:54.55 | timinator | how does one backup a Windows Registry? |
| 19:55.16 | thebigdog | timinator, very carefully |
| 19:55.16 | mindjuju | what OS timinator ? |
| 19:55.22 | timinator | XP |
| 19:55.33 | Trevyn | I just wanted to know what they have to do with Web based eCoarses |
| 19:55.38 | Trevyn | And the relationship to GL |
| 19:55.46 | Trevyn | And the relationship to UTOSF |
| 19:55.55 | mindjuju | if you open reg editor, it gives you the ability to export right under file |
| 19:56.05 | timinator | ty for that somewhat unhelpful advise thebigdog |
| 19:56.11 | timinator | ~flip thebigdog |
| 19:56.11 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 19:56.16 | Trevyn | My group is looking into UTOSF and want to know a bit more info |
| 19:56.18 | mindjuju | but as thebigdog says, i wouldn't count on it too much |
| 19:56.24 | timinator | TY mindjuju |
| 19:56.26 | timinator | gotcha |
| 19:56.57 | thebigdog | Trevyn, i have heard the name dropped for education...however, i dont think it was good in terms of the education |
| 19:57.01 | Trevyn | Who reads the submitted papaers for the UTOSFC |
| 19:57.08 | thebigdog | however, that was many years ago |
| 19:57.08 | timinator | thebigdog: your very expensive lady friend hasn't called me yet :( |
| 19:57.20 | thebigdog | timinator, yeah no idea why |
| 19:57.31 | thebigdog | i need to ping here |
| 19:58.24 | timinator | in the "yeah, no idea why" statement..... not the latter one |
| 19:58.25 | timinator | dang |
| 19:59.48 | Trevyn | Does Ashley Oviett Still psot here? |
| 20:00.53 | wps | Ashley has never hung out in this channel |
| 20:01.02 | Trevyn | Who reads the submitted papaers for the UTOSFC |
| 20:01.46 | wps | trevyn: you might try #utos |
| 20:01.51 | Trevyn | wps, are you on the mailing list? |
| 20:01.55 | wps | no |
| 20:02.54 | Trevyn | That room is dead |
| 20:03.55 | wps | I'm sorry |
| 20:04.05 | Trevyn | Mindjuju, how much input do you have on the organization of UTOSC? |
| 20:04.11 | Trevyn | How many peopl came last year? |
| 20:04.30 | mindjuju | a bit and a bunch (in that order) |
| 20:05.07 | thebigdog | ~ping herlo |
| 20:05.08 | jbot | pong herlo |
| 20:05.24 | timinator | highly scientific statistics ya got there mindjuju |
| 20:05.27 | mindjuju | UTOS is good group |
| 20:05.30 | Trevyn | How many is a bunch? |
| 20:05.33 | Trevyn | 200? |
| 20:05.36 | Trevyn | 2000? |
| 20:05.39 | mindjuju | 300, if i recall |
| 20:05.42 | mindjuju | no, not 2k |
| 20:06.40 | mindjuju | oh sorry, that's a GWAR link so likely NSFW |
| 20:06.54 | mindjuju | don't be having you're little kiddies clickin' on that link |
| 20:07.00 | Trevyn | Did UTOSF go to the Big Thechnology Expo at david O'McKay? |
| 20:07.17 | wps | can you put a server variable in the rewrite, like this? |
| 20:07.17 | wps | RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://{SERVER_NAME}/en/$1 [R=301,NC,L,QSA] |
| 20:07.37 | wps | or do you have to catch the variable in a RewriteCond and pass it to the rule as a variable? |
| 20:07.56 | mindjuju | trevyn, not sure if anybody in the collective went, but members have gone to similar events |
| 20:09.04 | SunSparc | wps: There are environment variables |
| 20:09.18 | SunSparc | eg: script_name, script_url, etc. |
| 20:09.25 | thebigdog | where is herlo at today? |
| 20:09.25 | wps | right |
| 20:09.33 | wps | can I use those vars right in the rewerite rule? |
| 20:09.49 | SunSparc | wps: I assume so. |
| 20:10.10 | wps | I had tried it and it didn't work, but I just realized that i didn't proceed it with the % |
| 20:10.12 | wps | I will try that |
| 20:10.21 | wps | cha-ching |
| 20:10.25 | wps | I think I just solved my problem |
| 20:10.28 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:10.36 | timinator | herlo was in |
| 20:10.45 | timinator | ~seen herlo |
| 20:10.48 | jbot | herlo is currently on #utos (5d 13h 32m 2s) #utah (5d 13h 32m 2s) #uphpu (5d 13h 32m 2s) #ubuntu-us-ut (5d 13h 32m 2s). Has said a total of 469 messages. Is idling for 1h 9m 33s, last said: 'fozzmoo: I can give you a task if you like'. |
| 20:11.07 | thebigdog | ~seen thebigdog |
| 20:11.08 | jbot | thebigdog is currently on #uphpu (4h 12m 13s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen thebigdog '. |
| 20:11.28 | thebigdog | i dont chat as much as that guy |
| 20:12.04 | thebigdog | GGGGGGGGGGGWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR! |
| 20:12.45 | mindjuju | GWAR! |
| 20:12.50 | Trevyn | mindjuju, what was your over all review of it? |
| 20:13.24 | mindjuju | it's good, provides a forum that allows geeks to see what other geeks are doing |
| 20:14.00 | mindjuju | didn't know there were some geeks dropping computers in their cars to get their podcasts in their car using WAP in their garage |
| 20:14.06 | Trevyn | Does it help create anything? Im struggling with what the point of it is. |
| 20:14.17 | mindjuju | there were some presents on Apache high availability |
| 20:14.35 | Trevyn | That sounds cool |
| 20:14.35 | mindjuju | the point is to learn about technologies |
| 20:14.59 | mindjuju | and if you are experienced in a particular area, to share some knowledge |
| 20:15.27 | mindjuju | several BOF groups on best practices, etc |
| 20:15.33 | mindjuju | networking |
| 20:16.13 | mindjuju | jsmith was there presenting on Asterisk |
| 20:17.04 | thebigdog | im presenting on "why thebigdog is the 'bigdog'!' |
| 20:17.22 | herlo | timinator: what's up? |
| 20:17.28 | herlo | thebigdog: I've been here all day |
| 20:17.32 | thebigdog | sure man |
| 20:17.44 | timinator | was just trying to locate ya for thebigdog |
| 20:17.48 | timinator | I'm good |
| 20:18.23 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 20:18.25 | jbot | dataw0lf <n=stderr@ibaku.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 4d 3h 20m 23s ago, saying: '_psychic_: *shrug* Jayce invited me and I mass invited people from Linkedin *shrug*'. |
| 20:20.42 | timinator | yuck |
| 20:21.06 | mindjuju | get hit by a virus timinator? |
| 20:21.22 | timinator | my buddy dide |
| 20:21.23 | thebigdog | vthebigdog that is a nasty one |
| 20:21.27 | timinator | s/dide/did |
| 20:21.32 | timinator | oops |
| 20:21.42 | timinator | ya, that is a nasty one |
| 20:22.17 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:22.19 | timinator | naw |
| 20:22.31 | timinator | no viruses for 10+ yrs |
| 20:22.49 | mindjuju | funny you say that, they had 3 laps sitting on a table and allowed people try to break in |
| 20:23.00 | mindjuju | mac gone in 2 minutes, vista 2 days later, linux not compromised |
| 20:23.07 | timinator | I heard |
| 20:23.15 | timinator | that was the Air though, right |
| 20:23.22 | mindjuju | didn't see model |
| 20:23.36 | timinator | and it's designed to allow access to stuff.... |
| 20:23.44 | timinator | so you can install from a remote comp |
| 20:23.45 | mindjuju | and prolly reason Vista didn't dive first is because nobody uses it so prolly not too many spoits for it |
| 20:23.54 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:23.55 | timinator | ya |
| 20:24.12 | mindjuju | i can't get a dang computer to run the thing! |
| 20:24.23 | timinator | you have an Air?? |
| 20:24.25 | timinator | why? |
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| 20:24.51 | mindjuju | oh sorry, meant Vista |
| 20:24.55 | timinator | ah |
| 20:25.15 | mindjuju | i can get it installed, but like 20% of my progs work |
| 20:25.21 | mindjuju | and none of my periphrals |
| 20:25.27 | timinator | sheesh |
| 20:25.38 | mindjuju | what's the point of putting an OS out that doesn't connect with anything? |
| 20:25.44 | timinator | I dunno |
| 20:26.36 | SunSparc | timinator: why the disdain for the Air? |
| 20:27.22 | timinator | I dunno dude |
| 20:27.28 | timinator | seems to serve no purpose |
| 20:27.51 | timinator | they should've made something else |
| 20:28.17 | timinator | I'm actually trying to put my thoughts down on preverbal paper |
| 20:28.21 | SunSparc | I think it is cool in it's own right. |
| 20:28.27 | timinator | and put a blog post together |
| 20:28.37 | timinator | been writing it since they released it |
| 20:28.47 | SunSparc | I cannot think of why I would own one, but it could be quite handy for some people. |
| 20:29.14 | timinator | well.... you have to have another comp to install stuff on it |
| 20:29.15 | timinator | so |
| 20:29.26 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:29.26 | timinator | it's really a laptop for meetings |
| 20:29.30 | timinator | imo |
| 20:29.34 | SunSparc | Or plain rides. |
| 20:29.37 | timinator | ya |
| 20:29.38 | SunSparc | plane |
| 20:29.42 | timinator | or plane rides |
| 20:29.45 | timinator | that's it |
| 20:29.47 | SunSparc | Or road trips |
| 20:30.12 | timinator | I've used a laptop as my primary comp for >7 yrs |
| 20:30.14 | SunSparc | Yeah, well, like I said, handy in some places. Not a dev machine though. |
| 20:30.15 | timinator | maybe 8 |
| 20:30.16 | mindjuju | funny you say that, saw a report saying that more companies in San Fran are prohibiting laps from being in there -- so called topless meetings |
| 20:30.18 | timinator | I dunno |
| 20:30.38 | mindjuju | as in no lap, no crackberry, no ipod, no nothing |
| 20:30.49 | timinator | hmmm |
| 20:30.50 | SunSparc | Probably cause no one is listening to the drone and are instead surfing. |
| 20:30.51 | mgeary | mindjuju: they just call them that so people will come |
| 20:30.51 | timinator | crazy |
| 20:30.58 | fungus_ | topless?!? |
| 20:31.04 | fungus_ | sounds dirty |
| 20:31.05 | mgeary | see? fungus_ would come |
| 20:31.11 | mindjuju | heh |
| 20:31.16 | mindjuju | here is an article on it - http://www.43folders.com/2008/03/25/topless-meetings |
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| 20:32.44 | brasto | dude, this guy put "s'pore" for his city and country... wonder why his credit card didn't clear... and i wonder how many seconds of his life he saved by putting 's'pore' instead of Singapore... |
| 20:34.03 | mindjuju | k gents, be back in a couple of hours, cya |
| 20:34.12 | timinator | late |
| 20:34.27 | wps | so longâ¦Â farewell⦠|
| 20:34.38 | wps | our feet are same |
| 20:35.08 | SunSparc | shoes |
| 20:37.32 | timinator | speaking of other devises besides a laptop..... have you all seen the iPod Touch?? |
| 20:37.38 | timinator | I just bought a 16GB |
| 20:37.43 | timinator | and I LOVE it |
| 20:37.51 | timinator | crazy cool |
| 20:37.56 | wps | I want one so bad |
| 20:38.05 | timinator | bought 1 for me, and another for my main client |
| 20:38.17 | timinator | he showed it off in a meeting w/ his main client |
| 20:38.30 | timinator | I think we may make a ton of money off these things |
| 20:38.43 | timinator | just simply because of how much more business we get |
| 20:39.36 | fungus | the iPhone that is. |
| 20:39.41 | wps | â¦which I think we'll see this summer |
| 20:40.53 | wps | my biggest problem is that I have a free corporate t-mobile blackberry |
| 20:41.09 | timinator | I'll jump from iPod Touch to iPhone when they offer: 3G compatibility and multiple networks |
| 20:41.13 | wps | and can't justify paying for a phone myself when I can have one for free |
| 20:41.40 | fungus | right, I have a BB now. I like it, but I still want an iPhone. |
| 20:42.10 | fungus | I have to wait for the Exchange support before I could possibly convince my boss to spring for an iPhone |
| 20:42.26 | timinator | I thought they added that |
| 20:42.34 | timinator | but I haven't been following it |
| 20:42.35 | fungus | No, just announced it |
| 20:42.37 | timinator | ah |
| 20:42.54 | timinator | ya, I can't wait for 3rd party apps too |
| 20:45.16 | herlo | timinator: did you need something? |
| 20:45.20 | mgeary | can y'all confirm that this link is currently dead: |
| 20:45.21 | mgeary | https://apitest.authorize.net/xml/v1/request.api |
| 20:45.26 | mgeary | it was working minutes ago |
| 20:45.30 | wps | as a doornail |
| 20:45.37 | herlo | timinator: nm, saw the msg |
| 20:45.37 | fungus | connection reset |
| 20:46.00 | mgeary | chalk one more up for a.net |
| 20:47.46 | herlo | okay, wordpress 2.5 is cool! |
| 20:48.28 | mgeary | herlo: are you saying that after having seen sourcecode? |
| 20:48.33 | herlo | no |
| 20:48.45 | herlo | mgeary: wp source code scares me, but josephscott knows all aobut that |
| 20:49.06 | josephscott | well, all about it might be stretching it a bit :-) |
| 20:49.26 | herlo | hehe |
| 20:49.29 | herlo | okay |
| 20:49.50 | josephscott | though I'd really like to take a hammer to TinyMCE and IE right now |
| 20:50.20 | herlo | fair enough. My opinion is that we just do away with IE altogether, that'll solve it |
| 20:51.08 | timinator | hear hear |
| 20:51.18 | josephscott | source code doesn't have to be pretty for wordpress to be successful: http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2005/06/06/you-dont-have-to-be-pretty-to-be-successful/ |
| 20:51.31 | josephscott | although being successful and pretty is even better :-) |
| 20:51.47 | herlo | yup, agreed |
| 20:52.01 | herlo | timinator: we should take IE to the Smash Lab! |
| 20:52.14 | SunSparc | Will it blend? |
| 20:52.16 | josephscott | IE - Will It Blend? |
| 20:52.27 | SunSparc | josephscott: ^5 |
| 21:00.57 | timinator | depends on the blender |
| 21:00.59 | timinator | :) |
| 21:07.12 | herlo | hehe, perfect! |
| 21:26.09 | wps | anyone know anyone that works for InsideSales.com |
| 21:39.29 | thebigdog | white zombie is great |
| 21:41.00 | fungus | oh yeah. |
| 21:42.20 | wps | any Sara Bareilles fans? |
| 21:42.29 | wps | I've been listening to her almost exclusively the past few weeks |
| 21:43.55 | timinator | any Matt Darey fans? |
| 21:44.06 | timinator | I've been listening to him almost exclusively the past few weeks |
| 21:45.38 | timinator | except for the last few hours...... |
| 21:45.49 | timinator | hmmm hmmmm |
| 21:46.18 | *** join/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=cjoplin@gw.helius.com) |
| 21:49.05 | SunSparc | After Sara Bareilles, Pandora gave me some Holly Brook. |
| 21:49.14 | timinator | and this one is for wps |
| 21:49.26 | wps | oh yeah! |
| 21:49.53 | wps | I like the Scissor Sisters almost as much as I like rootbeer floats |
| 21:50.03 | wps | and that's saying something |
| 21:52.39 | timinator | lol |
| 21:53.40 | timinator | so.... if I wanted to cache data for my PHP apps...... would that be XML files or what? |
| 21:54.03 | wps | what format is your information in right now? |
| 21:54.14 | timinator | I've heard dataw0lf and others say that caches are a developer's best friend |
| 21:54.18 | wps | and do you want to just cache the data? or can you just cache the entire page? |
| 21:54.23 | timinator | in a DBN |
| 21:54.30 | timinator | s/DBN/DB/ |
| 21:57.44 | mgeary | we've been doing a lot lately with APC |
| 21:57.45 | mgeary | it's great |
| 21:59.03 | josephscott | memcache is good |
| 21:59.37 | mindjuju | hey! this month's UPHPU meeting is brought to you by olds and it is on PHP High Availability using memchache |
| 22:00.03 | josephscott | mindjuju: where's the announcement? |
| 22:00.12 | mgeary | apccache is supposedly much higher performing than memcache |
| 22:00.30 | josephscott | if you only have one server that is probably the case |
| 22:00.33 | mindjuju | its on uphpu calender, UTC calendar |
| 22:00.41 | josephscott | blog? |
| 22:00.51 | mindjuju | website? I'll post there shortly |
| 22:00.54 | mindjuju | just got back to desk |
| 22:01.19 | mindjuju | and in other news, the Geek Lunch has been announced for next Friday at Tucanos |
| 22:01.25 | cole_joplin | For anyone who may be interested, TopTenReviews.com did another job posting for a PHP programmer. Avoid this employer like the plague. |
| 22:01.30 | mindjuju | have had 6 people RSVP already |
| 22:01.44 | cole_joplin | I wouldn't want anyone in this group to get burned |
| 22:03.04 | cole_joplin | I used to work there, and so did BlackChaos |
| 22:06.14 | mindjuju | BlackChaos == DextertheDRagon |
| 22:06.34 | mindjuju | ~APB olds |
| 22:06.34 | jbot | ACTION calls Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out olds |
| 22:08.37 | DexterTheDragon | yep changed me name :D |
| 22:08.59 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon - do you know if the Code Greene Posse is coming to Geek Lunch? |
| 22:10.35 | DexterTheDragon | on the 17th? |
| 22:10.42 | DexterTheDragon | or 18th? |
| 22:10.46 | mindjuju | 18th |
| 22:11.12 | DexterTheDragon | well I plan on going. most likely will be able to drag the other guys along |
| 22:12.10 | mindjuju | coolio |
| 22:18.19 | macnewbold | anyone around at the moment who uses cake? |
| 22:18.26 | macnewbold | ~seen _psychic_ |
| 22:18.29 | jbot | _psychic_ is currently on #uphpu (1h 46m 55s), last said: 'anyone here use thesixtyone.com ?'. |
| 22:18.36 | _psychic_ | sup macnewbold |
| 22:18.38 | macnewbold | g'day |
| 22:18.46 | macnewbold | we're having a cake problem, and looking for some free advice |
| 22:19.01 | thebigdog | dont use cake |
| 22:19.19 | mgeary | why do people IM "kk" instead of "ok" or just "k" ? |
| 22:19.24 | josephscott | don't eat too much, you'll get sick |
| 22:19.27 | macnewbold | projects have images, projects are in categories, and we need to have an image for each project for each category the project belongs to |
| 22:19.30 | thebigdog | mgeary, that is game chat |
| 22:19.34 | wps | I've never seen anyone type kk |
| 22:19.38 | macnewbold | kk |
| 22:19.40 | macnewbold | there, now you have |
| 22:19.41 | mgeary | thebigdog: game? |
| 22:20.06 | thebigdog | that is common with online gamers to use |
| 22:20.10 | macnewbold | anyway, _psychic_, we're having trouble getting cake to like an extra attribute in our many-to-many junction table |
| 22:20.11 | mgeary | but why |
| 22:20.26 | macnewbold | is this something I should just go ask in #cake, or will they flame me? |
| 22:20.40 | macnewbold | I'd love to RTM, but haven't found it anywhere |
| 22:20.51 | thebigdog | mgeary, that is what they do |
| 22:20.55 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 22:20.55 | mgeary | whatever |
| 22:21.05 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:21.11 | macnewbold | _psychic_: ? |
| 22:21.18 | macnewbold | ~torture thebigdog |
| 22:21.19 | jbot | ACTION forces thebigdog to support Debian GNU/Hurd in production. |
| 22:21.20 | _psychic_ | looking that up - there was some good docs on that |
| 22:21.25 | macnewbold | oh, cool! |
| 22:21.37 | mindjuju | utah_dave you around? |
| 22:21.40 | macnewbold | so does DexterTheDragon, who is sitting next to me :) |
| 22:21.44 | thebigdog | haha -> rtm |
| 22:21.50 | thebigdog | that is a nice pointer |
| 22:22.12 | thebigdog | so now that everyone is working with mac now...what is thebigdog to do |
| 22:22.29 | mindjuju | start programming in LOGO ? |
| 22:22.34 | thebigdog | welll |
| 22:22.36 | macnewbold | thebigdog: we may be looking for a contractor to help with a linux cluster project :-D |
| 22:22.36 | thebigdog | how about |
| 22:22.48 | thebigdog | macnewbold, im your man |
| 22:22.53 | thebigdog | but im not doing it in freebsd |
| 22:23.00 | macnewbold | no, it's on linux, actually |
| 22:23.05 | macnewbold | wasn't my choice to make :) |
| 22:24.07 | macnewbold | DexterTheDragon found one doc, but said it wasn't helping much |
| 22:25.28 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:25.36 | thebigdog | you doing it at the kernel |
| 22:26.01 | _psychic_ | macnewbold: I can't find it :( |
| 22:26.24 | _psychic_ | the association array in the model should allow you to define a custom query for grabbing HABTM data |
| 22:26.38 | _psychic_ | if you need extra fields, I think you can use that |
| 22:26.52 | _psychic_ | I want to help, but I'm working on something that has to be ready in 30 min |
| 22:26.57 | _psychic_ | #cakephp might be of some assistance |
| 22:28.37 | mindjuju | with the exception that it would have worked |
| 22:28.44 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 22:28.58 | thebigdog | but for those guys that turn off your AC |
| 22:29.40 | wps | can I walk through the headers with the Firebug plug in? |
| 22:29.53 | thebigdog | you can |
| 22:30.10 | thebigdog | under all - net |
| 22:30.34 | _psychic_ | the console shows the request and response headers for each call |
| 22:32.07 | wps | thanks, thebigdog |
| 22:32.26 | thebigdog | np |
| 22:32.29 | thebigdog | mgeary, kk |
| 22:32.59 | mgeary | uh |
| 22:33.01 | mgeary | whoops |
| 22:33.03 | mgeary | ouch |
| 22:33.07 | thebigdog | hehehe |
| 22:33.31 | thebigdog | mindjuju, there goes the booby trap |
| 22:33.35 | SunSparc | Later all. Soccer time. |
| 22:33.41 | thebigdog | right in the head |
| 22:33.51 | mindjuju | dedicated to mgeary - http://consumerist.com/377247/old-wal+mart-man-attacks-older-wal+mart-man-with-pricegun |
| 22:35.13 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I'm here, but i'm leaving in a sec |
| 22:35.38 | thebigdog | all fun and games until you get a price check |
| 22:35.48 | thebigdog | shop smart....shop s-mart |
| 22:35.55 | mindjuju | oh, utah_dave - macnewbold had cakePHP question |
| 22:36.00 | thebigdog | i would have given him the boom stick |
| 22:36.03 | mindjuju | thought you might be able to help, but i think he's on his way now |
| 22:36.16 | macnewbold | sweet, Utah_Dave uses cake? |
| 22:36.17 | mindjuju | thebigdog -- no doubt |
| 22:36.27 | wps | thebigdog eats cake |
| 22:36.29 | mindjuju | yeah, utah_dave was telling me the virtues of using a framework |
| 22:36.44 | Utah_Dave | actually, I use CodeIgniter almost exclusively now |
| 22:36.55 | Utah_Dave | partly for problems macnewbold is having now |
| 22:37.32 | Utah_Dave | Using a framework is definitely the way to go |
| 22:38.47 | Utah_Dave | later, everyone! |
| 22:38.48 | *** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=David_Bo@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 22:39.17 | thebigdog | and rolls around in it too |
| 22:39.27 | mindjuju | you roll around in cake? |
| 22:39.29 | thebigdog | ~slogan |
| 22:39.36 | wps | ha ha |
| 22:39.47 | mindjuju | ~thebigdog |
| 22:39.48 | jbot | i heard thebigdog is the postgreSQL guru, a GWAR groupie, or secretly loves AOL, or a lover of cursors |
| 22:40.43 | thebigdog | "a framework isn't a framework unless you can eat it too" - CakePHP |
| 22:41.18 | wps | "a framework isn't a framework unless it's edible and you can wear it" CakePHP |
| 22:42.11 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:42.25 | thebigdog | anyone seen varity blues? |
| 22:43.03 | thebigdog | its like that |
| 22:43.45 | mindjuju | haven't |
| 22:44.14 | herlo | varsity blues? |
| 22:44.20 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:44.34 | thebigdog | i watch too many movie |
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| 22:44.53 | herlo | thebigdog: movies? |
| 22:45.08 | herlo | or you watch to many movie young asian gentleman |
| 22:45.34 | mindjuju | herlo, he was mentioning the movie to give an example of his "rolling around in cake wearing speedos" |
| 22:45.48 | mindjuju | prolly best to let the convo just die |
| 22:45.50 | thebigdog | -speedos |
| 22:46.06 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:46.27 | mindjuju | don't think about it |
| 22:46.29 | mindjuju | don't |
| 22:46.33 | mindjuju | run away! |
| 22:46.45 | wps | alright everyone |
| 22:46.51 | wps | let's shut this down |
| 22:46.52 | wps | time to go home |
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| 22:46.57 | thebigdog | haha wps gets it |
| 22:47.07 | thebigdog | mgeary, where you at? |
| 22:47.19 | mgeary | ? |
| 22:47.20 | mgeary | Orem |
| 22:47.25 | thebigdog | kk |
| 22:47.30 | mgeary | dude |
| 22:47.34 | mgeary | you're killing me |
| 22:48.14 | thebigdog | i should introduce you to some others |
| 22:51.09 | orsonj | better cake scene: "The Great Race" (well, probably, I haven't seen the one with the guy rolling around in a speedo) |
| 22:52.54 | thebigdog | its like a cold night of joe dirt |
| 22:52.58 | thebigdog | hehe |
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| 23:14.46 | mgeary | thebigdog: why did you want to know where i was? Just so's you could "kk" me? |
| 23:15.02 | thebigdog | yep |
| 23:15.06 | mgeary | loser |
| 23:15.11 | thebigdog | kk |
| 23:15.38 | thebigdog | that is how it is used |
| 23:15.50 | thebigdog | mainly after the person asks a question |
| 23:16.08 | mgeary | i still don't see what's wrong with..... |
| 23:16.10 | mgeary | k |
| 23:19.05 | thebigdog | only cool people can pull off the kk |
| 23:24.53 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |
| 23:46.17 | macnewbold | this just in: I just posted to the mailing list about some positions we're opening here at Code Greene |
| 23:46.47 | macnewbold | php/mysql ninjas, and potentially a good linux contractor who knows high availability, clustering, and load balancing stuff |
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