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03:25.42SunSparcAnyone up for an Array question?
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15:18.30herlohttp://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/468406
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16:49.20wpsoh, no
16:49.27wpsNew Kids On The Block to reunite
16:49.27wpshttp://www.ksl.com/?nid=154&sid=2997950
16:50.03influx^^noooo
16:50.16influx^^there goes my lunch money
16:50.25mgearythere goes my lunch
16:51.21wpswhy do they have to try and bring stuff like that back?
16:51.25wpsthere's a reason it went away
16:51.38influx^^If they want to bring something back, they should bring back Boyz II Men.
16:51.47wpsindeed
16:51.51wpsI would be in favor that
16:51.53wpsof that
16:52.05beandoguphpu should have its own boy band
16:52.15wpsI took my little sisters NKOTB cassette back in the day and pulled all of the tape out
16:52.23influx^^ha
16:52.36wpsit was blowing down the street in the wind
16:52.37influx^^I have a cassette in my closet somewhere.
16:52.44influx^^"Hang Tough"
16:52.49mgearya better question is, why do they continually try to mess with cold cereal? I swear, they've now screwed up Honeycombs, Fruity Pebbles, Froot Loops, Trix, and i don't even know what else. All of them are now, "Better Tasting!!". Dangit, just leave my childhood alone!!
16:52.56influx^^I purchased it for 0.99 at a record store.
16:53.16beandogmgeary, hear hear
16:53.17wpswhat to hear something funny?
16:53.22wpswe had an ultrasound the other day of our baby
16:53.28wpsand they gave us a copy on a VHS tape
16:53.41wpsit took me four days to locate a VCR just to copy it off onto my computer :)
16:53.49beandogman
16:53.50mgearydude, VHS++++++
16:53.54beandogIve still got my VCR hooked up to my TV.
16:53.57beandogI love VHS.
16:54.01mgeary^5
16:54.06wpsI'll tell you though
16:54.18mgearyVHS is indestructible
16:54.20beandogThere's still a few movies only on VHS, too.
16:54.24beandogmgeary, noooo kidding.
16:54.26wpssince using it the other day, I have been thinking of dropping $15 and going and buying a fancy VCR
16:54.29beandogIve got tapes from 20 years ago that still work.
16:54.32mgearytotally
16:54.34wpsso that I can record shows and fast forward through commercials
16:54.44mgearyshow me a 20-year-old DVD that's survived a house full of kids
16:54.46wpsI was just thinking of how I used to do that all of the time 15 years ago
16:54.53mgearyshow me a FIVE-year old DVD that's survived....
16:55.14wpswhy am I inconveniencing myself just to stubborn wanting a DVR?
16:55.29wpstime to suck in my pride and just get a VCR
16:55.29beandogwps, get a Tivo, they are fantastic
16:55.41wpsbut $15 vs $250 :)
16:55.56beandogJust buy a used Series 2 on craigslist for ~$50
16:56.03wpsand I'd never to Tivo brand since they require a monthly subscription
16:56.07influx^^You could make your own VCR.
16:56.07influx^^:D
16:56.11influx^^Hooray.
16:56.16beandogwps, yah, but its worth it
16:56.31wpsI think having to pay defeats the entire point
16:56.45wpsI want a DVR that just lets me record whatever comes through my antenna
16:56.47beandogWell youre paying for the subscription data
16:56.59beandogEven with mythtv, you gotta pay for that... not as much, but its not free.
16:57.13beandogits a cruel world, licensed monthly.
16:57.19wpswhat I am I getting?
16:57.32wpsI already know when shows are on… and if I don't, it's listed at tv.yahoo.com
16:57.42wpsI just need something that I can program to record from a to b and stop
16:57.56beandogman
16:58.00beandogdoes anyone remember VCR Plus?
16:58.03beandogThat was *cool*
16:58.04wpsyeah
16:58.23wpswhat does the Tivo subscription give you, beandog ?
16:58.48beandogwps, subscription data
16:58.52beandogsame as anything
16:59.06wpswhat do you mean by "subscription data"?
16:59.09wpswhen shows are on?
16:59.11beandogprogram data
16:59.14beandogwhats on, descriptions, etc.
16:59.16beandogall that crap.
16:59.29wpswhy would you pay for that though when all of that information is already free?
16:59.37beandogbecause its automated.
16:59.43beandogand indexed, and searchable with your remote.
16:59.49beandogand you dont have to manually set the timer.
16:59.50wpsah… I see
16:59.56wpsI have never used a Tivo
17:00.00wpsso it's more convenient
17:00.06beandogyah
17:00.13beandogyou just say "Record any instances of this show"
17:00.15beandogAnd it'll do it.
17:00.31beandogYou can say "record any movies that match this keyword" and it'll do that
17:00.39wpsthat's cool
17:00.43beandogone nice thing I like about Tivo is it records suggestions for you, based on what you rate.
17:00.55beandogSo if you record / like Nova, it'll record other PBS / nature shows too
17:01.20wpsanyone else as excited for a new episode of the Office this evening as I?
17:02.57beandogI think its kinda gone downhill since season 2
17:03.19wpsisn't tonight supposed to be a new episode finally?
17:03.30wpsyahoo is listing it as a repeat
17:03.45wpsI thought tonight was supposed to be the first new episode after the writers crap
17:05.51wpsdang… I was wrong
17:05.59wpsnot new until next week
17:11.48PoeticIntensitycan't believe you're now an evangelist for Tivo, beandog, instead of myth :-(
17:12.19PoeticIntensityI paid $20.00 for a year worth of programming for myth.  I'm not sure what Tivo costs.
17:12.38PoeticIntensity(the price for schedulesdirect has probably gone down since Sept. of last year, too)
17:12.43wpswho do you pay for Myth?
17:12.50PoeticIntensityschedulesdirect.org
17:13.06PoeticIntensitythey took over zap2it's listing when it went down.
17:13.33PoeticIntensityschedulesdirect is just a bunch of guys who didn't want to see myth die.
17:13.43PoeticIntensityand the service has been spot-on for the last 8 months
17:13.44beandogAll I know is, HD Tivo == no hassle, HD Myth == no workie
17:14.02PoeticIntensityHD Myth == no workie for some people...  For me it works great.
17:14.14PoeticIntensityand thank you for the 2nd card, BTW.
17:14.19PoeticIntensity:)
17:15.16PoeticIntensitywps, the URL is http://www.schedulesdirect.org/
17:15.28PoeticIntensity(in case I didn't spell it right or something earlier)
17:15.32wpswow, that's a purdy website
17:15.39PoeticIntensityquick 'n' dirty... :)
17:16.04PoeticIntensityI believe it took them all of 2 months to go from absolutely nothing, to a fully functioning business.
17:17.08wpsI would rather look at that website than yahoo.com though
17:17.22wpsyahoo.com makes me want to puke
17:17.44PoeticIntensityanyway...  I'll consent that Tivo is probably much easier to get running, since it's something you buy pre-packaged.... but I've been using myth now for more than 2 years and it's been wonderful.
17:18.05PoeticIntensitymy wife (non-tech) uses it more than I do, and now my kids can navigate through the menus to watch movies 'n' stuff....
17:18.22brastodoes old html 4.01 want & in hrefs instead of &?
17:19.11beandogwell I just dont use myth to watch / record TV.  Too clumsy for me.  I still use it as as a storage backend for all things multimedia, though.
17:19.59PoeticIntensityyup, yup!  One of the HDs died on that one myth box I built for someone else....
17:20.23PoeticIntensitytook all of about 3 hours to put in a new one and begin the transfer.
17:21.34PoeticIntensityI'm on a Linux high....  I just can't believe that some of this stuff is free....
17:21.41PoeticIntensityQue viva OSS!
17:21.51PoeticIntensityhttp://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3675&user=1
17:22.02PoeticIntensityAbout a RAID configuration I tested yesterday.
17:22.17PoeticIntensityWent to the live box and took out one of the HDs while still on.
17:22.26PoeticIntensitykept runnin' like a champ.
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18:05.46timinatorhey guys
18:05.54timinatorjust realized I didn't have this on
18:05.57timinator*shrug
18:06.10timinatorprobably means I need to contribute a bit more
18:06.11timinator:)
18:17.01SunSparcAnyone seen timinator lately?  I have not heard much from him since he stopped contributing and I put him on auto-ignore...
18:17.18herloSunSparc: yeah, that's not very nice of you :(
18:17.26SunSparcLOL
18:17.31herlohehe
18:19.15timinatorLOL
18:20.06SunSparcHey timinator, I think you contribute well enough here.  :)  imho
18:20.46timinatorwell, thank you
18:21.05timinatorgotta work too, ya know
18:21.07timinator:)
18:30.55SunSparcWork?  What is that?
18:31.12beandogit's what we do when theres a lag in the conversation here
18:31.38SunSparclol, oh yeah, that stuff!
18:33.51unumwhat? I read blogs when there's a lag here.
18:38.46mindjujuanybody around that is on utopia?
18:39.02SunSparcunum: Good idea
18:39.18SunSparcmindjuju: I wish.  They have been promising to be in my neighborhood for years.
18:40.29beandogmindjuju, I think macnewbold  is
18:41.36mindjujusadly for me macnewbold is on alleynet
18:41.42mindjujufrom xmission
18:43.16unummindjuju: I am
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18:50.00mindjujuunum, just wondering how they set it up.  Do they bring fiber to your house and then cat 5e or cat6 inside or do they bring fiber all the way inside the house?
18:50.37mindjujui ask because AFAIK i'm not in utopia area coverage right now and would like to have everything when they do
18:50.50mindjujuincluding having a CAT 6 cable to the outside of the house
18:51.05mindjujudoing some framing in the basement and would rather get it all setup now before the sheetrock goes in
18:53.03unumwell we have it at my work
18:53.12unumand they brought the fiber right into our office\
18:53.25unumnot JUST the building
18:53.35mindjujucool
18:53.36unumbut there is fiber line right into our server room
18:54.12brastohow do you move a window from one space to another when using 'Spaces' on a Leapard?
18:54.28brastocool, that sounds like code for something...
18:55.06brastojbot, give me an answer
18:55.07jbotACTION gives an answer to brasto
18:56.38unumjbot, give me a dirty magazine
18:56.38jbotACTION gives a dirty magazine to unum
18:56.48unumevil bot
19:01.02SunSparcbrasto, drag it
19:01.54SunSparcmindjuju: From what I have heard of residential Utopia installations, they bring the fiber into the house and give you a fiber to ethernet switch that you can then plug your Cat6 into.
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19:02.47brastoSunSparc: drag it where?  I tried up, down, and both sides and my mouse stops at the edge of the screen without rotating to another one.
19:03.13SunSparcbrasto: Hold it at the edge for a couple seconds
19:03.37brastosweet
19:03.40SunSparc:)
19:03.41brasto~thank SunSparc
19:03.41jbotbrasto: de rien
19:03.47SunSparcnp
19:03.51brastohuh?
19:03.56brasto~dict de rien
19:04.07brasto~translate de rien
19:04.22SunSparcIt is French, it means "of nothing"
19:04.28brastoah, coo
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19:28.23brasto~have a chocolate
19:29.06brastohow do you tell jbot to say your name in a response to an action?
19:30.19brastoeg: maybe something like ~have $1 is <action> Thanks for $1, $dudewhosaid~have...
19:31.49brasto~take something from me
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20:06.29Utah_Dave~whaleslap mindjuju
20:06.29jbotACTION beats mindjuju upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:10.07Utah_Dave~tunafart mindjuju
20:10.08jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
20:10.42brasto~dumb bot
20:10.42jbotstupid human
20:30.34beandoghttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/04/03/funny-pictures-effishuncie-cat/
21:42.28brastoanyone here use Smarty?
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21:44.03thebigdogyeah, you need to add that to the lvl that you want it to be active at
21:58.01brastothanks thebigdog, i tried this: /msg chanserv level #udbug set autoop 30
21:58.18thebigdogyeah
21:58.19brastoi get this: ChanServ: Contact access is required for [LEVEL]
21:58.33brastoand i'm opp'ed on #udbug
21:58.48brastois 30 too high?
21:58.52thebigdogk let me check something out
21:59.08brastotx again thebigdog
22:05.36thebigdogbrasto what command did you run again?
22:05.57thebigdogand what level are you listed at in your channel
22:05.59brastothis: /msg chanserv level #udbug set autoop 30
22:06.11brastoi think 30...
22:06.36thebigdogmake sure that access has its level set to 30
22:06.47thebigdogand you should be able to up your lvl to 49
22:07.19brastoyep
22:07.28brastosetting to 49 in a moment
22:07.28thebigdogwe have our autoop at 20
22:07.37thebigdogwe have our autovoice at 5
22:08.58brastosounds good, i'll set to that level
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22:10.32thebigdogtry that out and let me know
22:10.56wpsthis is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen
22:10.56wpshttp://www.gmc.com/yukonhybrid/index.jsp
22:11.00wpsbig whoopy-doo
22:11.08wpsit gets one more mile to the gallon then the normal model
22:11.12wpswhat's the point?
22:11.22wpsauto manufacturing is a load of crap
22:11.31wpsthey could build cars that get 100 MPG if they wanted to
22:25.48thebigdogthat is true
22:25.59thebigdogi just need a motorcycle to ride
22:27.54orsonjhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE-wrYK8JSY <-- I would really like to try this program out.
22:44.32thebigdogbasically all creativity goes out the window
23:00.18brastothebigdog: i cannot set an access level greater than 29 on #udbug.  I get this: You cannot add an access level greater than [29]
23:00.33brastodoh!
23:01.27timinatorI'm out... later guys
23:10.49brastomgeary: tell me if my quit message works...
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23:11.01mgearyuhh
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23:11.24fungusnope, didn't work
23:11.48mgeary~lart fungus for not taking advantage of a good opportunity to mess with brasto
23:11.48jbotwhacks fungus upside the head for not taking advantage of a good opportunity to mess with brasto
23:11.57brastodid it not come up at all, fungus?
23:11.58fungusdoh
23:12.01brastolol
23:12.13fungus<-- brasto (n=brasto@166.70.44.49) has left #uphpu
23:13.05fungusThat is a Leave/Part message, not a Quit message
23:13.35brastoColloquy calls it a quit message.
23:13.52brastotesting again...
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23:14.17mgearyeveryone laugh
23:14.34fungus~laugh
23:14.34jbotACTION rolls around on the floor laughing
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23:14.38mgearyhaahahaha
23:14.42mgearyoh man, that was good
23:15.15brastodoh!
23:15.19fungusbrasto: There is a difference between leave/part and quit messages
23:15.31brasto?
23:15.46fungusIf you Quit your IRC client a quit message is generated
23:16.07fungusIf you close the channel window, or leave a channel a leave message is generated
23:16.09brastoah, that makes sense...
23:16.40brastotesting again...
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23:17.13fungus<-- brasto has quit (Client Quit)
23:17.43brastoi set the message to /me goes home
23:17.50brastonot sure if a command would work...
23:18.05fungusno, a command can not work
23:19.00fungusWhatever you put in that box appears between the parentheses.
23:19.00brastodidn't think so
23:19.00brastobrb
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23:19.21brastodid it work?
23:19.24fungusnope
23:19.29fungus<-- brasto has quit (Client Quit)
23:19.41brasto~lart Colloquy's bogus quit message field
23:19.41jbotdeclares Colloquy's bogus quit message field a moron
23:19.42fungusHere is an example part message.
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23:21.16brastok, i'll try just leaving the channel... maybe colloquy has the wrong name for it.
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23:21.35brastono workie?
23:21.40fungusnope
23:22.05brastofinally have a client with the option to set a quit message and it doesn't even work...
23:22.24fungustry typing /part Blahblahblah
23:23.09brastodid that set it on the server?
23:23.10fungusor maybe /leave Blahblahblah
23:23.19fungusno, that is an IRC command
23:23.57fungusapparently colloquy sucks
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23:24.46fungusahh, duh.  its /part #uphpu Blahblahblah
23:27.47brastoah, ok
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23:28.33fungus~laugh
23:28.34jbotACTION rolls around on the floor laughing
23:28.44brastolol
23:28.50fungusstill no workie
23:29.08brastoodd
23:30.13brastowell, maybe another day...
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23:31.09brastofunny if i do that, i have to re-join 2x in colloquy...
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