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| 00:50.17 | herlo | simple css question, how does one guarantee that a div will always be at the bottom of a page? |
| 00:52.17 | optikal | Using position:absolute, however it's trickier in IE. |
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| 00:52.46 | optikal | I'm not familiar with the hack off the top of my head, I'd have to google for it. |
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| 00:53.52 | herlo | yeah, I see that now that i'm reading |
| 00:54.04 | herlo | except position absolute isn't enough right? |
| 00:54.43 | herlo | optikal: it seems I have to put bottom: 0 and something about fixed too |
| 00:55.46 | optikal | err yeah, fixed. |
| 00:55.52 | optikal | http://optikal.org/ |
| 00:56.12 | herlo | yeah, still doesn't seem to do it though |
| 00:56.14 | optikal | Very outdated site, but you can reference the code. |
| 00:56.50 | herlo | okay, got it |
| 00:57.07 | herlo | tx |
| 01:05.46 | mindjuju | herlo - did you see that article on Digg about the contest to hack laptops w/ various OSs |
| 01:06.08 | mindjuju | Mac lost first, then 2 days later Vista, then last laptop not compromised, Linux, though doesn't say what flavor |
| 01:07.00 | herlo | mindjuju: didn't |
| 01:07.56 | mindjuju | http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7010483023 |
| 01:08.17 | herlo | mindjuju: tx |
| 01:08.40 | mindjuju | and for those of you needing a laugh after a long day... I present - man gets FRISKY with patio table and gets busted - http://www.asylum.com/2008/03/31/no-picnic-man-charged-with-screwing-a-patio-table/ |
| 01:09.05 | mindjuju | sadly posted to digg much to his family's horror, i'm sure |
| 01:10.00 | herlo | mindjuju: interesting part about that article is that ppl didn't want to take the time to write exploit code for linux haha |
| 01:10.58 | mindjuju | yeah, saw that though for some reason it doesn't mentino what flavor of linux |
| 01:12.08 | herlo | yah, I know, but I don't think that's as important since linux is pretty much the same, just a few minor differeences |
| 01:12.19 | herlo | at least when you compare it with mac and vista, that is |
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| 02:31.22 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 02:32.06 | herlo | I am, sorta |
| 02:32.07 | mindjuju | howdy burnin - do you buy or write your flash stuff? |
| 02:32.13 | mindjuju | same question to herlo |
| 02:32.19 | herlo | no |
| 02:32.20 | burnin | lol |
| 02:32.28 | burnin | no here as well |
| 02:32.37 | burnin | actually I haven't used any flash |
| 02:32.57 | mindjuju | bummer, needed a flashy (no pun intended) - crowd-pleasing effects |
| 02:33.18 | mindjuju | would just as soon buy it, but istockphoto just doesn't have what i'm looking for |
| 02:33.38 | mindjuju | simple flash banner that loads the displayed text from a text file |
| 02:35.52 | optikal | hrmm... to watch a movie or not. |
| 02:35.56 | optikal | err, wrong chan. |
| 02:36.03 | mindjuju | watch movie |
| 02:36.07 | mindjuju | i would |
| 02:36.13 | mindjuju | what movie, by the way? |
| 02:36.16 | burnin | umm, what is the movie? :) |
| 02:36.21 | burnin | lol |
| 02:36.32 | mindjuju | yeah optikal -- what movie |
| 02:37.07 | optikal | Not sure. |
| 02:37.09 | optikal | Maybe Hot Fuzz. |
| 02:37.20 | mindjuju | hot fuzz is NEARLY the greatest movie of all time |
| 02:37.29 | mindjuju | top rank going to Big Trouble in little china |
| 02:37.34 | mindjuju | of course |
| 02:37.55 | burnin | yeah, hot fuzz is a watch |
| 02:38.09 | herlo | mindjuju: I love hot fuzz |
| 02:38.20 | herlo | but Office Space will always be better IMO |
| 02:38.23 | burnin | BTinLC is excellent :) |
| 02:38.44 | mindjuju | Office Space is pretty good |
| 02:38.44 | optikal | Both great, but imo they're in seperate categories. |
| 02:38.54 | mindjuju | yeah, true that optikal |
| 02:39.53 | herlo | optikal: now way, cult films are always in the same category :) |
| 02:40.12 | herlo | besides, its an opinion, you can't give me your opinion :-P |
| 02:45.15 | herlo | hehe |
| 02:46.26 | mindjuju | i think i'm going to have to differ. one would never categorize Rocky Horrow Picture Show in the same category as say Army of Darkness |
| 02:46.43 | herlo | I would |
| 02:46.55 | herlo | if I thought it appropriate to compare all movies |
| 02:47.19 | mindjuju | they would only go on the same shelf in my library if they were in the same format, ie VHS |
| 02:47.21 | mindjuju | or DVD |
| 02:47.41 | mindjuju | but as you say, to each their own |
| 02:49.44 | herlo | mindjuju: I think you misunderstand |
| 02:50.07 | herlo | its a matter of comparing how much I liked a movie vs another, not by category, but just by sheer enjoyment of the movie |
| 02:51.11 | mindjuju | so by that rationale, one could have Alien and Young Frankenstein nearly side by side, though near opposite in movie categorization ? |
| 02:51.32 | herlo | sure |
| 02:51.49 | herlo | why not? :-> |
| 02:51.56 | herlo | o_0 |
| 02:52.02 | herlo | ^_o |
| 02:52.45 | mindjuju | fascinating |
| 02:58.18 | herlo | javascript ftw! |
| 03:10.16 | burnin | don't suppose anyone knows of some database benchmarking tools for linux that work with postgresql and mysql? |
| 03:11.29 | burnin | http://osdldbt.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:11.42 | burnin | that may work, couldn't find it on the osdl site |
| 03:17.56 | burnin | hmm, except it doesn't look like their tests support mysql |
| 03:20.53 | burnin | heh, maybe a bit more complicated than I need. |
| 03:21.17 | burnin | maybe I'll just write some simple bash scripts to use pgsql and mysql to execute some queries and time them. |
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| 04:45.36 | timinator | anyone awake out there? |
| 04:45.49 | mindjuju | yeah, what you doing up so late? |
| 04:45.53 | timinator | working |
| 04:45.58 | mindjuju | yeah same here |
| 04:46.02 | timinator | ya |
| 04:46.10 | mindjuju | pushing a week worth of work into 3 days |
| 04:46.11 | timinator | I need some help |
| 04:46.18 | timinator | oh, geez |
| 04:46.21 | mindjuju | so i can play carpenter from Wed - Sat |
| 04:46.22 | timinator | that's never good |
| 04:46.23 | mindjuju | what you got |
| 04:46.25 | timinator | ah |
| 04:46.38 | timinator | long story, short: |
| 04:47.03 | timinator | I have a PHP page |
| 04:47.11 | timinator | and after I do my PHP magic |
| 04:47.20 | timinator | I need to load an external PHP page |
| 04:48.06 | timinator | for the life of me, I can't remember how to execute a get request within PHP |
| 04:48.23 | timinator | you know? |
| 04:48.34 | mindjuju | you mean like using curl? |
| 04:49.01 | timinator | well, I thought so... but that's not working. |
| 04:49.08 | timinator | let me check my syntax |
| 04:49.27 | mindjuju | here is PHP info on curl |
| 04:49.27 | mindjuju | http://us2.php.net/curl |
| 04:49.36 | mindjuju | also, is it win box or other? |
| 04:51.11 | timinator | linux |
| 04:51.12 | timinator | shared |
| 04:51.18 | timinator | PHP as CGI |
| 04:51.28 | timinator | and it's driving me nuts |
| 04:51.30 | timinator | :) |
| 04:51.48 | mindjuju | k, was going to say there are special provisions for win box and curl |
| 04:51.55 | timinator | ya.... I must've had some syntax messed up.... I'll write it again |
| 04:51.57 | timinator | ah |
| 04:52.01 | timinator | nope, linux |
| 04:53.36 | timinator | what options would I need? |
| 04:53.46 | timinator | perhaps that's what I had messed up |
| 04:54.17 | mindjuju | not so much of option as, |
| 04:54.18 | mindjuju | Note to Win32 Users In order to enable this module on a Windows environment, libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll must be present in your PATH. You don't need libcurl.dll from the cURL site. |
| 04:55.52 | timinator | ah |
| 05:00.26 | mindjuju | need any other help? |
| 05:08.01 | timinator | nope |
| 05:08.04 | timinator | I got it |
| 05:08.08 | timinator | curl was it |
| 05:08.23 | timinator | I had too many CURLOPTs in there that didn't apply |
| 05:08.30 | timinator | thanks man |
| 05:08.40 | mindjuju | :) |
| 05:16.09 | timinator | ...... can I return the favor? |
| 05:16.36 | mindjuju | only if you can return the clock back a week prior to my desktop exploding |
| 05:16.55 | mindjuju | i've recovered everything except one v Critical file |
| 05:17.05 | mindjuju | that will take prolly a couple of hours to replace |
| 05:17.10 | timinator | crazy |
| 05:17.17 | timinator | nope.... can't turn the clock back |
| 05:17.23 | mindjuju | right now while I back something up, i'm scanning all back up to make sure it isn't there |
| 05:17.38 | timinator | ya |
| 05:17.39 | timinator | fo sho |
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| 06:38.40 | timinator | later guys.... I'm out |
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| 15:12.29 | orsonj | hmmm. looks like everyone is taking advantage of Google's new Custom Time and coming in late. |
| 15:22.36 | brasto | ~Custom Time |
| 15:22.49 | brasto | ~google |
| 15:22.50 | jbot | hmm... google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 15:23.03 | orsonj | http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html |
| 15:24.04 | brasto | yep, just found it |
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| 15:28.50 | mindjuju | that's really funny orsonj |
| 15:29.10 | mindjuju | sadly, i thought yesterday was april fools, so 1 already launched my pranks a day early |
| 15:33.18 | orsonj | I have an upside-down-ternet proxy. I just need to figure out how to enable the port without using the gui, or just wait till I get to work. |
| 15:34.40 | herlo | orsonj: are you using squid |
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| 15:40.14 | mgeary | holy cow i'm itchy today |
| 15:41.13 | orsonj | I'm using filterproxy |
| 15:41.42 | orsonj | The proxy is running, it's the firewall, I'm having issues with |
| 15:45.17 | unum | orsonj: why are you running that? |
| 15:45.40 | orsonj | It was easier to figure out how to get going and write plugins for it. |
| 15:47.06 | unum | no why are you filtering web content? |
| 15:47.30 | unum | are you firewalling all other ports internall as well? |
| 15:47.37 | unum | that was worded poorly |
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| 15:48.01 | unum | are you preventing people from connect to outside services on non port 80 ports |
| 15:48.51 | SunSparc | Check out our new web site design: http://flashback.johna.staging.mediarain.com/ |
| 15:49.31 | orsonj | no one is currently using the proxy. I mainly use it for testing certain things. That and pranks. |
| 15:49.42 | unum | oh ok |
| 15:49.44 | Utah_Dave | SunSparc: :) |
| 15:49.58 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:50.09 | Utah_Dave | Ooh, realistic 3d graphics!! |
| 15:50.13 | unum | ah if I would have read the backlog I would have realized that |
| 15:50.31 | SunSparc | Utah_Dave: Oh yeah, we are cutting edge! |
| 15:50.32 | unum | I just use shorewall for all my firewall needs |
| 15:50.34 | mindjuju | SunSparc - that's awesome! |
| 15:51.06 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Yeah, I agree. Thanks to _psychic_ for the design. |
| 15:51.39 | mindjuju | i'll have to do that next year |
| 15:52.11 | Utah_Dave | I think my first web site looked something like that! I like the tiling background |
| 15:52.17 | Utah_Dave | kind of puts you in a trance |
| 15:53.18 | SunSparc | Backgrounds used to be so cool |
| 15:53.27 | SunSparc | They are so boring these days. |
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| 16:02.22 | orsonj | 5 minutes! that's all the time psychic has for us?!? |
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| 16:08.24 | Utah_Dave | Man, government purchasing is so stupid |
| 16:08.52 | DexterTheDragon | s/purchasing// |
| 16:09.07 | Utah_Dave | I got in to work today and was told we had to come up with $100,000 in stuff to buy before the end of today |
| 16:09.25 | Utah_Dave | last week we couldn't even buy toilet paper |
| 16:10.14 | Utah_Dave | no, we wouldn't be allowed to buy anything fun or useful like that |
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| 16:11.10 | mgeary | you know, i've got a garage full of $1000 hammers |
| 16:11.19 | mgeary | lemme get you a dozen |
| 16:11.32 | mgeary | or or or-- |
| 16:11.41 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: THAT's more like it! |
| 16:12.17 | thebigdog | morning all |
| 16:12.35 | mgeary | i'm offering a special today only, ISO-1134 compliance auditing, 5 hours for only $60,000 |
| 16:12.44 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: i can be there in an hour |
| 16:13.11 | DexterTheDragon | faster for another 5,000 |
| 16:13.16 | mgeary | totally |
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| 16:20.33 | mindjuju | uh oh, i just had an Austin Powers moment |
| 16:20.44 | wps | oh my |
| 16:20.51 | synic | you got stick in a narrow hallway with a golf cart? |
| 16:20.54 | synic | er.. stuck |
| 16:20.57 | synic | heh. |
| 16:21.17 | mindjuju | i'm left work last night at 3a trying to get a project done, so i'm at home right now just doing some quick coding before I get back in. The TV is on behind me |
| 16:21.30 | mindjuju | when guess who comes on but Dell Shawnze with moneytrain.com |
| 16:21.48 | mindjuju | felt like that dude who spots Dr. Evil on radar |
| 16:24.51 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.58 | brasto | jk wps and mindjuju |
| 16:25.46 | brasto | ~moneytrain |
| 16:26.52 | mindjuju | oh i don't know if dell is on the web, just saw him on TV |
| 16:27.03 | mindjuju | i wonder if he's still running for Gov |
| 16:28.21 | brasto | ok, that was an odd add... |
| 16:34.22 | orsonj | ah, got it working. UpsideDown-ternet proxy available at 129.123.114.116:8888 |
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| 16:40.36 | Utah_Dave | orsonj: I'm trying it right now |
| 16:45.46 | Utah_Dave | orsonj: that's awesome!! |
| 16:46.03 | Utah_Dave | orsonj: would you mind if I use your proxy for a few pranks today? |
| 16:49.56 | orsonj | go ahead |
| 16:50.35 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 16:51.12 | mgeary | anyone here ever installed ActiveCollab? A client wants to know if i'll do it for them |
| 16:54.44 | orsonj | I'll probably turn the proxy off tomorrow morning. Also, if for some reason my computer goes down, the proxy isn't set to run on startup. But otherwise, it should remain usable for today. |
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| 17:17.32 | timinator | mawnin' guys |
| 17:25.28 | wps | awesome |
| 17:25.32 | wps | I played this game as a kid |
| 17:25.34 | wps | http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1456277209 |
| 17:25.38 | wps | what a great commercial |
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| 18:14.38 | wps | NO WAY!!!! |
| 18:14.45 | wps | hannah montanna is coming to Stadium of Fire!!!! |
| 18:15.44 | timinator | my 4yr old will be thrilled |
| 18:15.46 | timinator | :) |
| 18:15.48 | timinator | jk |
| 18:16.52 | wps | I take my kid to the park |
| 18:16.58 | timinator | LOL |
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| 18:17.19 | timinator | didn't realize you were being facetious |
| 18:17.42 | wps | :) |
| 18:17.47 | wps | I don't give a crap about hannah |
| 18:18.27 | wps | I have nothing against it thoughâ¦Â just thing it's crazy how crazy people get over stuff |
| 18:19.28 | SunSparc | No kidding |
| 18:19.48 | SunSparc | Like Christmas. Can you say, "over board". |
| 18:29.39 | timinator | hey, she hasn't posed for playboy yet, so she's still "wholesome" for kids |
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| 20:12.27 | _psychic_ | is there any server-side issue that would cause file uploads to give errors? |
| 20:12.32 | _psychic_ | partial upload errors? |
| 20:13.00 | thebigdog | when it copies the file to the destination |
| 20:13.06 | thebigdog | that might throw and error |
| 20:15.25 | _psychic_ | wouldn't that be a different error? |
| 20:15.37 | thebigdog | what is the error you are getting? |
| 20:15.49 | _psychic_ | http://us.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.errors.php |
| 20:15.54 | _psychic_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.54 | _psychic_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.57 | _psychic_ | dunno what causes that |
| 20:17.01 | _psychic_ | I'm not losing connection |
| 20:23.03 | _psychic_ | grr |
| 20:23.53 | thebigdog | how about time to upload |
| 20:23.58 | thebigdog | how long is that taking |
| 20:26.25 | thebigdog | is your max upload size sufficient |
| 20:26.27 | _psychic_ | it's < 30 MB |
| 20:26.29 | _psychic_ | yes |
| 20:26.34 | _psychic_ | so is max execution time |
| 20:28.16 | thebigdog | how about your memory limit |
| 20:28.24 | _psychic_ | wouldn't I get told about that? |
| 20:28.33 | thebigdog | perhaps |
| 20:28.41 | thebigdog | i usually check these |
| 20:28.46 | thebigdog | upload_max_filesize |
| 20:28.53 | thebigdog | memory_limit |
| 20:29.00 | thebigdog | max_execution_time |
| 20:29.11 | thebigdog | post_max_size |
| 20:29.39 | thebigdog | then i look at the form to see what i am missing |
| 20:29.51 | thebigdog | oh and max_input_time |
| 20:30.16 | thebigdog | what is your max_input_time set at |
| 20:30.17 | thebigdog | 60s |
| 20:30.31 | thebigdog | you might want 90 or 120 |
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| 20:31.30 | _psychic_ | input_time? |
| 20:31.36 | _psychic_ | doesn't seem to exist |
| 20:31.36 | _psychic_ | the rest are grossly high |
| 20:33.06 | thebigdog | you dont have this - http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.max-input-time |
| 20:35.12 | _psychic_ | no |
| 20:35.59 | thebigdog | try adding that |
| 20:36.09 | thebigdog | if you have php 4.3.0+ |
| 20:36.45 | _psychic_ | 5.0.4 |
| 20:37.13 | thebigdog | you can add it |
| 20:37.49 | _psychic_ | adding and restarting... |
| 20:37.56 | _psychic_ | shows up in phpinfo() now.. |
| 20:38.28 | _psychic_ | nope :/ |
| 20:38.50 | _psychic_ | Charles shows the right filesize in the request too |
| 20:39.00 | _psychic_ | the data isn't getting interrupted from what I can tell |
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| 20:51.32 | _psychic_ | hope it's big |
| 20:54.05 | herlo | _psychic_: that is mean! |
| 20:56.56 | _psychic_ | you volunteered |
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| 21:02.34 | herlo | _psychic_: I was stabbing PHP as well |
| 21:02.43 | herlo | not letting you stab me! |
| 21:07.09 | herlo | _psychic_: gee, thanks :-/ |
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| 21:27.38 | mindjuju | _psychic_ - did you find an answer? |
| 21:27.54 | _psychic_ | nope |
| 21:28.42 | mindjuju | was doing large file uploads and having very errors similar, where file appeared to get to temp directory but would fail |
| 21:29.22 | mindjuju | in that particular case, while i never found an answer, i think it was some kind of CRC checksum failure the file was failing |
| 21:29.32 | mindjuju | and when i uploaded a diff file, it would work |
| 21:29.37 | mindjuju | where diff file was larger |
| 21:29.58 | mindjuju | all probs have disappeared since moving to Apache though |
| 21:30.14 | Utah_Dave | wow, what a great quote |
| 21:30.20 | Utah_Dave | (3:30:01 PM) mindjuju: all probs have disappeared since moving to Apache though |
| 21:30.38 | mindjuju | yup! you can take that to the bank! |
| 21:31.25 | unum | what were you using before? |
| 21:31.33 | mindjuju | IIS |
| 21:31.44 | unum | $%*&# What's wrong with people |
| 21:32.11 | mindjuju | because I grew up on IIS? |
| 21:32.25 | SunSparc | Wicked traditions of his fathers. |
| 21:33.24 | SunSparc | mindjuju: It is ok. We still accept you as a friend even though you come from a different faith. |
| 21:33.33 | mgeary | i like IIS because pushing buttons is fun |
| 21:33.42 | SunSparc | mgeary: hehe |
| 21:34.05 | mgeary | i mean, how many buttons do you get to push with Apache? |
| 21:34.21 | SunSparc | True, unless you have some cool web ui. |
| 21:34.36 | mgeary | ewww. uh, i mean, yeah, and those are almost as good as IIS |
| 21:34.45 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:34.58 | mindjuju | well, i didn't choose it for the GUI |
| 21:35.07 | SunSparc | Especially if you push the button that says "Turn off the Web". |
| 21:35.17 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:36.29 | mgeary | nooooo. not your skillz. just your judgement ;) |
| 21:36.34 | unum | I was 16 when iis 1.0 was released so I can't claim to have grown up on it |
| 21:37.05 | unum | :p |
| 21:37.33 | unum | now DOS on the other hand... |
| 21:38.11 | unum | I think I was 8 when we got our first DOS based computer. I still used the commodore 128 for most things... |
| 21:38.19 | unum | especially print shop |
| 21:38.32 | unum | the DOS computer had print master which wasn't near asgood |
| 21:38.49 | mindjuju | good ole DOS |
| 21:39.52 | mgeary | built a whole dual-entry, self-reconciling accounting system |
| 21:40.47 | unum | http://www.minotaurz.com/compmuse/museum/pix/Sharp_pc7000.jpg <- that was the first "ibm" pc I ever used |
| 21:40.53 | unum | atleast it looked a lot like that |
| 21:41.14 | unum | mgeary: I was still in elementary school |
| 21:41.19 | SunSparc | hehe, mgeary I did that for other mission records with Lotus 1-2-3 in macros. Cool stuff. |
| 21:41.46 | unum | actually I probably started junior high that year |
| 21:42.17 | unum | I made a space ship fly on our commodore |
| 21:42.41 | unum | it was a coding example in the manual on how to use sprites |
| 21:42.56 | timinator | miss the 90s |
| 21:43.03 | mindjuju | LOGO > BASIC |
| 21:43.04 | timinator | :) |
| 21:43.48 | timinator | hehe |
| 21:44.00 | SunSparc | ~lart timinator for even mentioning NKOTB |
| 21:44.00 | jbot | eats timinator's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti for even mentioning NKOTB |
| 21:44.08 | timinator | haha |
| 21:44.14 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:44.18 | SunSparc | Never seen that one |
| 21:44.41 | timinator | was kidding about NKOTB..... but am listening to MC Hammer now |
| 21:44.42 | timinator | hehe |
| 21:44.53 | SunSparc | That is acceptable. |
| 21:44.54 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:45.24 | SunSparc | Hehe, my wife forbids me to do anything that closely resembles "pegging" my pants. |
| 21:45.32 | timinator | hehe |
| 21:45.41 | timinator | radio switch |
| 21:47.40 | timinator | ACDC++ |
| 21:47.50 | mgeary | only song i've got from the |
| 21:47.51 | mgeary | m |
| 21:48.26 | brasto | curiosity question for css gurus like wps: Can one do this in an element: style="first-child:whatever:whatever;" |
| 21:48.41 | brasto | iow, can one do inline pseudo-styling. |
| 21:48.59 | mgeary | i don't think so |
| 21:49.30 | mindjuju | there is a way you can do something similar, but you have to know the element, or at least I think you do |
| 21:49.47 | mindjuju | i'll see if i can find the syntax for it, but goes a little something like this -- hit it! |
| 21:50.05 | mindjuju | p + p {some stuff here} |
| 21:50.29 | mindjuju | where in that effect, it only applies the style to the second paragraphy that was preceeded by a paragraph |
| 21:50.44 | unum | you can do that |
| 21:50.45 | mindjuju | that may be CSS 3 though, lemme check |
| 21:50.56 | unum | the syntax is p p{style} |
| 21:51.02 | unum | oh wait |
| 21:51.03 | mindjuju | yeah, unum has it |
| 21:51.14 | unum | mine means nested paragraph |
| 21:51.15 | unum | sorry |
| 21:53.53 | mindjuju | you should google it brasto -- but a word of caution to this tale |
| 21:54.06 | thebigdog | that is nested css |
| 21:54.10 | thebigdog | which is doable |
| 21:54.24 | thebigdog | you can also do stuff with attributes which is killer |
| 21:54.37 | mindjuju | IE 7 isn't near CSS compliant and IE 8 is reputed to be near so, i would be careful with CSS if cross-browser compatibility is a concern |
| 21:54.53 | thebigdog | input[type="text"] {border: 1px solid black;} |
| 21:55.17 | mindjuju | heavily test, and expect IE to give you crap |
| 21:56.09 | mindjuju | optikal - you around? |
| 21:56.14 | optikal | mindjuju: Yes. |
| 21:56.41 | mindjuju | way cool. I've got a flash element on the front page of a site i'm working on |
| 21:57.00 | mindjuju | seems like i read somewhere there is a way to put the text of the flash in tags so that google will index and not be mad |
| 21:57.10 | mindjuju | i read somewhere google doesn't like hidden divs to store tags |
| 21:57.36 | mindjuju | sorry,s aid that wrong, heard that google doesn't like hidden divs to store text |
| 21:57.43 | mindjuju | like they think it is keyword spam or something |
| 22:00.17 | mindjuju | hey by the way brasto - found this for ya -- think it is what you're looking for - http://www.tizag.com/cssT/class.php |
| 22:00.26 | optikal | I know there are a few utils that will export that stuff out, but I've always been suspicious of their legitimacy... I'd recommend looking into the Flash Search Engine SDK |
| 22:00.52 | mindjuju | well, i don't mind just ripping out the text myself and putting it in tags |
| 22:01.03 | mindjuju | just looking for a way to put the text of the flash into the HTML so it gets indexed |
| 22:01.16 | optikal | Yeah, there are utils that will do that. |
| 22:01.30 | mindjuju | what tags do they use to put the text of the flash? |
| 22:01.34 | optikal | TBH I never touch flash, so I'd just have to google around. Someone was talking about one in here a few days ago, but I don't recall the name. |
| 22:01.45 | mindjuju | oh gotcha |
| 22:01.46 | mindjuju | k |
| 22:02.11 | optikal | IIRC You have a single data source with a 'type', and if it's a title it does em in h1-h6, paragraphs to p, etc. |
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| 22:20.05 | mindjuju | ~APB herlo |
| 22:20.06 | jbot | ACTION summons Tim to spray mace at herlo |
| 22:20.27 | mindjuju | man, just not your day Herlo - get stabbed, sprayed mace, what else is going to happen? |
| 22:37.39 | herlo | mindjuju: what's up? |
| 22:38.11 | herlo | its true, at least in this channel. In otherr news, I'm eating really good 7-layer dip from Whole Foods :) |
| 22:42.28 | brasto | unum, yea, (sorry for very slow response), and i don't think you can nest paragraphs in paragraphs... |
| 22:46.45 | unum | I think you can |
| 22:46.45 | brasto | mindjuju: that's normal css classes. I was talking about using the style="stylename:style" attribute of an element, and using it with a pseudo-class. |
| 22:46.49 | unum | why you would I don't know |
| 22:46.50 | brasto | i don't think it can be done. |
| 22:46.58 | brasto | right, unum |
| 22:48.53 | brasto | unum: i bet microsoft products that make html files do paragraphs in paragraphs... |
| 22:52.15 | brasto | anyone know of a web interface that consolidates a bunch of external icals into one dynamic ical? |
| 22:52.25 | brasto | ical file that is |
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| 23:14.14 | herlo | brasto: I want to write one! |
| 23:14.44 | herlo | brasto: but supposedly, you can do something similar with caldav, though I've not investigated |
| 23:15.27 | brasto | that's right, it's what i've been hoping to help you develop on a hacker night... |
| 23:16.06 | herlo | brasto: we should do that some time soon. :) I'm currently trying to get the conman project closer to completion |
| 23:16.32 | brasto | yes |
| 23:16.40 | brasto | on a saturday would be best |
| 23:17.00 | brasto | :) |
| 23:17.26 | mgeary | huh? herlo what do you want to write? |
| 23:17.55 | herlo | mgeary: a centalized calendaring application |
| 23:18.07 | herlo | but its more than that |
| 23:18.44 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |
| 23:18.44 | herlo | kind of like a calendar aggregator, but it would aggregate events, announcements, and more... |
| 23:19.33 | herlo | using microformats most likely |
| 23:20.13 | herlo | in addition, I've created a specification for a server that would basically generate an event, but deliver it in multiple ways. |
| 23:20.47 | herlo | we'd take that feed, and others, aggregating them and redeploying it in as many delivery methods as we could |
| 23:21.23 | herlo | things like twitters the day of, direct messages, sms, email, ical, rss and whatever other formats come out |
| 23:21.27 | herlo | mgeary: does that help? |
| 23:21.46 | mgeary | fun |
| 23:23.51 | herlo | :) yeah, wanna join up and help? |
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| 23:26.37 | mgeary | uh, no |
| 23:29.29 | mindjuju | yeah! this describes exactly what I was saying at the last Applebees Afterhours party with fungus and swb |
| 23:29.30 | mindjuju | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23879966/ |
| 23:30.09 | mindjuju | Apple is the "new cool" and MS is polyester pants of the 70s |
| 23:30.13 | herlo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4TfDs9veis |
| 23:30.20 | herlo | this guy is quite the dork, but funny |
| 23:31.00 | mindjuju | isn't this song used for the tv show? |
| 23:31.08 | herlo | what show? |
| 23:31.35 | mindjuju | http://www.g4tv.com/codemonkeys/index.html |
| 23:31.48 | mindjuju | it's the same song, now that i think about it |
| 23:32.00 | mindjuju | its a show "filmed" in 8 bit |
| 23:32.05 | mindjuju | looks like nintendo |
| 23:32.09 | mindjuju | comes on G4 |
| 23:32.33 | mindjuju | its alright, though i'd usually opt for something else |
| 23:32.44 | herlo | mindjuju: oh |
| 23:33.14 | mindjuju | but like i was saying that, Apple = new hawtness |
| 23:33.39 | mindjuju | MS = 70's polyester pants, huge honking mutton chops and platform shoes |
| 23:35.15 | herlo | mindjuju: pretty much how they portray themselves in their ads |
| 23:35.43 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: did you need something? |
| 23:38.01 | herlo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjcH2UmK1uo&feature=related |
| 23:38.04 | herlo | mindjuju: try that one |
| 23:38.52 | mindjuju | k |
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| 23:39.08 | herlo | :) zombies! |
| 23:39.58 | mindjuju | crowbar == zombie killer |
| 23:40.15 | herlo | :) |
| 23:44.12 | mindjuju | herlo - check this out -- too funny - http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/superpiipii.html |
| 23:48.54 | herlo | mindjuju: that's not a bad deal for it either $34.99 |
| 23:50.17 | herlo | mindjuju: did you notices the motto had changed a bit? |
| 23:51.27 | herlo | mindjuju: okay, the pteq is even funnier! |
| 23:51.40 | mindjuju | yeah |
