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| 02:07.36 | herlo | macnewbold: you around? |
| 02:09.01 | herlo | games at my house if ur interested... |
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| 15:21.32 | brasto | ~lart the increasing frequency of yahoo IM spam |
| 15:21.32 | jbot | lowers the increasing frequency of yahoo IM spam's priority |
| 15:21.42 | brasto | that was a dumb lart... |
| 15:21.52 | brasto | lart the increasing frequency of yahoo IM spam |
| 15:22.03 | brasto | jbot? |
| 15:22.09 | brasto | doh! |
| 15:22.22 | brasto | ~lart the increasing frequency of yahoo IM spam |
| 15:22.22 | jbot | drops a baby grand on the increasing frequency of yahoo IM spam |
| 15:22.30 | brasto | ~baby grand |
| 15:25.26 | brasto | mac's don't have a way to make shortcuts as easily as you can with Windows, do they? |
| 15:25.55 | wps | I don't know anything about creating them in Windows, but in Mac it is very easy |
| 15:26.04 | brasto | i had to do a bash file to make a shortcut i wanted, but it brings up a terminal window as well as what i want |
| 15:26.29 | wps | see the Keyboard Shortcuts tab within the Keyboard and Mouse system preferences pane |
| 15:26.34 | brasto | windows: right click in window or on desktop, click "add shortcut" browse to executable, click OK |
| 15:26.59 | brasto | oh, i mean a gui shortcut icon |
| 15:27.21 | brasto | ln -s didn't work so well either since it doesn't allow for shortcuts. |
| 15:28.09 | wps | ln works with Mac |
| 15:28.16 | wps | in Mac they aren't called shortcuts |
| 15:28.19 | wps | they are called aliases |
| 15:28.30 | wps | right-click on anything and you can make an alias of it |
| 15:30.16 | brasto | here's what i want, wps and anyone else. i have neo office. it launches Writer when I launch the office app. I use Calc more often, so I want to launch it directly. I created an executable text file with this in it: |
| 15:30.36 | brasto | doh... irc thought that was a command... |
| 15:30.38 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.36 | brasto | so, wps, can i do an alias with a parameter (in this case -calc) |
| 15:32.03 | wps | no, you'll have to create a little script (whether bash or applescript) |
| 15:32.11 | brasto | finder won't let me browse into the NeoOffice.app folder, it launches Writer... |
| 15:32.28 | brasto | bash works but it also opens a terminal window. |
| 15:32.28 | wps | if you want a icon that you can click or something in the dock, you'll probably want to go with an applescript |
| 15:32.42 | wps | you can create a clickable icon that runs the applescript that does what you want |
| 15:33.03 | wps | if you want to see in side the application bundle, right-click on the bundle and select Show Package Contents |
| 15:33.12 | brasto | i started trying to do that yesterday, but apple script didn't let me just enter a command. |
| 15:33.19 | wps | you can |
| 15:33.37 | wps | you can have an applescript that executes a bash command |
| 15:33.46 | wps | or any language |
| 15:33.50 | wps | I have applescripts that run PHP |
| 15:34.19 | brasto | sweet! |
| 15:34.59 | brasto | when i tried to put in /Applications/NeoOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice.bin -calc yesterday, it said i couldn't have any forward slashes |
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| 15:35.38 | wps | you might need to escape them, I'm not sureâ¦Â I'd have to see it in context |
| 15:45.20 | brasto | I opened script editor and put this in the top section: /Applications/NeoOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice.bin -calc |
| 15:45.35 | brasto | it says: A "/" can't go here |
| 15:45.50 | brasto | I escape the /'s, and I get this: |
| 15:45.52 | wps | oh, I think the script editor can only take applescript |
| 15:45.55 | wps | try using Automator |
| 15:45.59 | wps | that's how I make all my scripts |
| 15:46.16 | brasto | a unknown token can't go here |
| 15:46.40 | brasto | i tried the record button, but it didn't record anything. |
| 15:47.29 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/PTjH1hkFHjz |
| 15:48.59 | brasto | cool, where do i get that program wps? |
| 15:49.08 | wps | In the Applications folder |
| 15:50.23 | brasto | cool, and which workflow do i choose? text? custom? |
| 15:50.31 | wps | I always do custom |
| 15:54.32 | brasto | file format: workflow or application? |
| 15:54.40 | brasto | (when saving) |
| 15:55.20 | wps | if you do application then that gives you the executable that you can double-click |
| 15:55.49 | wps | I do all mine as workflows so that I can select them from the contextual menu in Finder |
| 16:00.12 | brasto | interesting, it works, but it adds a stop sign and a circling image in the top bar until i close neo office |
| 16:00.44 | wps | you might need something in the script that tells it to stop running |
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| 16:11.38 | brasto | thanks wps, i got it working. |
| 16:11.44 | wps | you're welcome |
| 16:12.24 | mindjuju | greets all |
| 16:13.16 | SunSparc | Morning mindjuju |
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| 16:31.16 | PoeticIntensity | yesterday should have been Friday.... *sigh* |
| 16:31.20 | PoeticIntensity | ~yawn |
| 16:31.20 | jbot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 16:32.07 | mindjuju | curious |
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| 16:50.31 | brasto | how do i change the icon for automator-created .app files? |
| 16:50.58 | brasto | not for all of them, just for specific ones |
| 16:55.35 | wps | to change/customize an icon in Mac OS, you Get Info on the file/app, and then cut and paste the new icon into the icon's representation at the top of the Get Info dialogue |
| 17:00.35 | brasto | cool, now to find the neo office icon file... |
| 17:05.27 | wps | that might not be an easy task since it's not a native Mac application |
| 17:05.37 | brasto | true |
| 17:05.50 | wps | there will be an icon, somewhere in the app bundle, but it might not be in a format that is easy to use |
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| 17:06.15 | wps | once you find it, try getting info on it and see if you can cut and paste it |
| 17:06.31 | wps | if you can't, you might need to open it in Iconographer (a freeware app) and save it out as something else |
| 17:11.14 | brasto | cool, that was easier than i thought after trying to find the icon manually, i tried get info on neooffice.app, clicked the icon, hit cmd+c, went to get info on my automator-created file, clicked the icon and hit cmd+v |
| 17:11.22 | brasto | tx again wps |
| 17:11.34 | wps | you're welcome |
| 17:11.41 | wps | isn't doing icons slick on a Mac? |
| 17:11.45 | wps | just cut-n-paste! |
| 17:11.49 | wps | errr |
| 17:11.50 | wps | copy-n-paste |
| 17:11.56 | brasto | good catch |
| 17:12.26 | brasto | that's an annoyance to me, when people say cut-n-paste when they are really copy-n-paste-ing |
| 17:12.35 | brasto | lol |
| 17:16.58 | brasto | cool... i can even do that on a folder icon... |
| 17:17.49 | brasto | ~napoleon somedude |
| 17:18.53 | brasto | ahem... the doc icon didn't change... anyone know why? |
| 17:20.21 | brasto | ah, found it |
| 17:20.25 | wps | is it in a stack? or just the app itself in the dock? |
| 17:21.23 | brasto | wps, iow, yep, in a stack |
| 17:21.38 | brasto | that way i have one icon to launch several apps, saving dock bar space |
| 17:23.20 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah Mac Users Group |
| 17:23.35 | orsonj | heh |
| 17:23.45 | brasto | lol |
| 17:23.56 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 17:24.34 | mindjuju | errr... whoops, it changed back |
| 17:24.47 | brasto | umm... |
| 17:24.50 | wps | birkenstocks |
| 17:24.51 | brasto | ~birkenstock |
| 17:24.51 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 17:25.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:25.05 | brasto | ~birkenstocks |
| 17:25.06 | jbot | birkenstocks are comfortable shoes |
| 17:25.18 | wps | just don't you dare wear them with socks |
| 17:25.33 | wps | sandals + socks = no, no, no |
| 17:26.04 | brasto | lol |
| 17:26.11 | wps | :) |
| 17:26.25 | mindjuju | jk, i was wearing tan socks with the tan cords i'm wearing today |
| 17:28.01 | brasto | right |
| 17:28.11 | brasto | brb |
| 17:30.55 | DexterTheDragon | do we really need a play by play of what brasto is doing on his mac? |
| 17:31.24 | wps | s/things/thinks/ |
| 17:31.26 | mindjuju | heh |
| 17:31.54 | mindjuju | a play by play on music though, THAT is another matter |
| 17:33.30 | DexterTheDragon | the musics fine. but all I have seen since this morning is the mac play by play |
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| 17:37.08 | wps | (thus my topic hint) |
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| 18:13.06 | wps | ~wedgie IE |
| 18:13.07 | jbot | ACTION hangs IE from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 18:13.19 | wps | ~melvin IE |
| 18:13.20 | jbot | ACTION pulls IE underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 19:07.21 | macnewbold | aha |
| 19:07.31 | macnewbold | it was DexterTheDragon and herlo trashing my foosball skillz |
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| 19:21.11 | macnewbold | ~eyepoke mindjuju |
| 19:21.22 | macnewbold | ~salute mindjuju |
| 19:21.22 | jbot | ACTION shows mindjuju how to count in binary on his fingers... then stops conspiciously on the number 4 |
| 19:21.28 | macnewbold | no no no |
| 19:21.29 | macnewbold | not that one |
| 19:21.36 | macnewbold | silly bot |
| 19:22.16 | macnewbold | ~ping herlo |
| 19:22.17 | jbot | pong herlo |
| 19:23.24 | macnewbold | methinks it be time for lunch |
| 19:24.20 | jsmith | ~feed macnewbold |
| 19:24.20 | jbot | ACTION offers macnewbold some toe-jam |
| 19:26.51 | jnbek | oh ugh !!, lol |
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| 21:44.37 | mgeary | ~lart network solutions for disabling autocomplete on their login |
| 21:44.37 | jbot | beats network solutions senseless with a 50lb Unix manual for disabling autocomplete on their login |
| 21:45.03 | mgeary | the user knows best, dangit. especially when the user is me |
| 21:50.20 | mindjuju | What the ! |
| 21:50.34 | mindjuju | digitally imported is playing crap on its breaks channel |
| 21:51.50 | fungus | ~lart network solutions for frontrunning domains |
| 21:51.50 | jbot | forces network solutions to use Outlook Express for frontrunning domains |
| 21:52.04 | mindjuju | whats frontrunning? |
| 21:52.10 | timinator | anyone know where thebigdog is hiding?? |
| 21:52.46 | fungus | If you search for domain availability on NetSol, they will register it for you, forcing you to buy it there for the next 5 days |
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| 21:57.48 | SunSparc | wps? |
| 21:57.53 | wps | yes? |
| 21:58.00 | mgeary | fungus: are they still doing that? I thought they backed down |
| 21:58.05 | SunSparc | Thanks for the regex link. |
| 21:58.12 | wps | you're welcome |
| 21:58.28 | fungus | AFAIK they are still doing it, but I might be behind the times. |
| 21:58.47 | mindjuju | oh yeah, i heard about it, but don't know if they still do it |
| 21:58.57 | SunSparc | wps: Have you seen O'Reilly's, "Mastering Regular Expressions"? |
| 21:59.03 | wps | nope |
| 21:59.14 | fungus | The fact that they did it once tells me they are an evil company that can't be trusted. |
| 21:59.26 | SunSparc | It has been a helpful book for me to have on my bookshelf. Just fyi. |
| 21:59.46 | SunSparc | Regex is awesome. |
| 22:00.01 | wps | it used to scare me to death |
| 22:00.22 | wps | but after spending two entire days writing apache rewritesâ¦Â being forced to learn itâ¦Â I have come to respect it quite a bit |
| 22:00.34 | mgeary | fungus: right on |
| 22:00.43 | SunSparc | hehe, yeah, it can be intimidating at first. |
| 22:01.27 | SunSparc | It is a bit like VI, steep learning curve but once you get the hang of it, wow! |
| 22:01.40 | wps | yeah |
| 22:01.42 | wps | I love vi |
| 22:01.46 | SunSparc | Ditto |
| 22:02.00 | wps | I don't code in it daily, but I love being able to remote into a box and edit right there at the command line |
| 22:02.07 | mgeary | bleh |
| 22:02.09 | wps | I love the command line |
| 22:02.15 | mgeary | i'll take nano/pico over vi any day |
| 22:02.20 | wps | ick |
| 22:02.20 | SunSparc | Same. Very powerful. |
| 22:02.25 | wps | pico is awful |
| 22:02.28 | mgeary | heh |
| 22:02.30 | mgeary | it's simple |
| 22:02.30 | SunSparc | mgeary: I used to say that. |
| 22:02.42 | wps | I started on pico, but once I found vi I never turned back |
| 22:02.50 | SunSparc | nano/pico is very easy to use, but also very very basic and limited. |
| 22:02.52 | wps | I do all my database work through the command line |
| 22:03.02 | wps | I like it WAY better than a GUI (such as phpmyadmin) |
| 22:03.25 | SunSparc | wps: Amen to that. I can do db work much quicker from cli than I can from PMA. |
| 22:03.32 | wps | indeed |
| 22:03.47 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 22:03.54 | SunSparc | To each his own. |
| 22:04.00 | mgeary | no way man |
| 22:04.02 | SunSparc | Good thing we have so many choices |
| 22:04.04 | mgeary | you need to convert NOW |
| 22:04.07 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:04.10 | wps | okay |
| 22:04.10 | fungus | PMA is good for some things. E.g designing new tables. |
| 22:04.13 | wps | done |
| 22:04.43 | wps | same with SVNâ¦Â I much prefer it on the CLI than any GUI |
| 22:05.08 | fungus | Oracle's SQL Developer is really cool, and works with MySQL too |
| 22:05.24 | mgeary | is it freeeeee? |
| 22:05.26 | fungus | ~lynch mindjuju |
| 22:05.31 | fungus | mgeary: yes, it's free |
| 22:05.35 | mgeary | on Mac ? |
| 22:05.40 | mindjuju | ~nick fernplanet |
| 22:05.45 | fungus | multiplatform |
| 22:05.49 | fungus | Mac, Linux, Windows. |
| 22:05.54 | mgeary | meaning it's Java |
| 22:05.59 | fungus | yup |
| 22:06.04 | fungus | http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/sql_developer/index.html |
| 22:06.09 | SunSparc | wps: Here are two other web sites I have found very useful for regex: |
| 22:06.09 | SunSparc | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html |
| 22:06.09 | SunSparc | http://www.regular-expressions.info/ |
| 22:06.49 | wps | thanks |
| 22:06.56 | SunSparc | np |
| 22:06.57 | bradym | yeah, i use sql developer to connect to our oracle dbs.. not a huge fan though, especially since it takes like 5-10 mins to startup |
| 22:07.24 | fungus | Yeah, sucks to launch, but when running it's pretty handy. |
| 22:10.23 | fernplant | Foiled! I'll get you next time! |
| 22:24.37 | SunSparc | Good album |
| 22:25.31 | fungus | Yup, David Bowie + Jim Henson + fantasy = Magic |
| 22:26.04 | SunSparc | Totally |
| 22:26.39 | SunSparc | Does not hurt to have Jennifer Connelly in it either. |
| 22:27.02 | mindjuju | she makes the movie ;) |
| 22:27.54 | mgeary | ~fernpee |
| 22:27.55 | jbot | ACTION whistles for BigDrink, the 180-lb Labrador Retriever with the 40-gallon bladder, to relieve himself on that fern over there in the corner... |
| 22:28.04 | mgeary | whew, you just made it, mindjuju |
| 22:28.14 | mindjuju | yeah, was just thinking that |
| 22:28.20 | mindjuju | ~timattack mgeary |
| 22:28.20 | jbot | ACTION get's Ash's chainsaw and starts to go postal on mgeary! |
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| 23:24.35 | swb | okay guys, where do I go to find out the best options in site search???? |
| 23:28.45 | timinator | I'm out guys..... later |
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| 23:38.09 | mindjuju | did you find an answer swb? |
| 23:39.22 | SunSparc | swb: Site search? You mean adding the ability to search a web site? |
| 23:41.52 | mindjuju | swb , if you are looking for a search engine for your site, i've heard v good things about lucene - http://lucene.apache.org/java/docs/index.html |
| 23:42.19 | SunSparc | There is always, Google. |
| 23:52.12 | SunSparc | Have a good weekend all. |
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