| 00:03.00 | herlo | ~tinyurl mindjuju |
| 00:03.01 | jbot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=mindjuju' and laughs maniacally! |
| 00:03.07 | herlo | ~tinyurl fungus |
| 00:03.07 | jbot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=fungus' and laughs maniacally! |
| 00:03.26 | herlo | mindjuju: I always use tinyurl |
| 00:03.34 | herlo | unless the url is short |
| 00:03.43 | mindjuju | yeah i know, but i deflected the hit |
| 00:04.45 | mindjuju | k here is a REALLY small URL |
| 00:04.50 | mindjuju | and terribly funny - http://www.flickr.com/photos/billadams/321845104/ |
| 00:05.04 | herlo | mindjuju: that'll work |
| 00:05.12 | mindjuju | yeah, now click on it though |
| 00:05.15 | mindjuju | it's terribly funny |
| 00:05.18 | mindjuju | you too fungus |
| 00:05.28 | fungus | lol |
| 00:05.43 | herlo | mindjuju: funny, but old :) |
| 00:05.59 | mindjuju | new to me |
| 00:06.11 | herlo | mindjuju: well, I use stumbleupon a lot |
| 00:07.28 | fungus | how's this for short? http://dmwt.org/a |
| 00:08.08 | herlo | http://www.crosscanadianragweed.com/ |
| 00:08.19 | herlo | fungus: while mine isn't short, the music is pretty good |
| 00:09.18 | swb | tierra... THANK YOU for the mac terminal info this morning, I was interupted before, but I just found the use option as meta keyboard setting, and that fixed it :) |
| 00:09.37 | tierra | :) |
| 00:09.40 | swb | irssi is so geeky cool |
| 00:09.41 | swb | lol |
| 00:09.55 | swb | hey, any of you guys use leopard servers? |
| 00:10.01 | mindjuju | nope |
| 00:10.20 | fungus | nope |
| 00:10.21 | swb | we are probably getting one, but I don't know that much about them |
| 00:10.34 | swb | we may use it just for time machine backups and what not at first |
| 00:10.40 | fungus | IMHO, why pay that much for a *nix server? |
| 00:10.54 | swb | our site is not hosted in house anyway |
| 00:11.07 | beandog | "Put on your Sunday best kids, were going to Sears!" |
| 00:11.10 | beandog | Name that movie |
| 00:11.11 | swb | people who are apple dealers ;) |
| 00:11.34 | fungus | beandog: Brady Bunch Movie |
| 00:11.46 | beandog | fungus wins! |
| 00:11.47 | beandog | whee |
| 00:11.56 | beandog | Thanks for playing |
| 00:12.04 | fungus | w00t |
| 00:12.09 | swb | hehe |
| 00:13.09 | mindjuju | i wonder who is going to win Texas and Ohio? |
| 00:13.51 | herlo | obama |
| 00:13.56 | herlo | mindjuju: its all over the news |
| 00:14.16 | mindjuju | i thought he prolly would be, but hadn't checked |
| 00:14.20 | RedHeron | I could have a heart attack and die from not-surprise. |
| 00:14.31 | fungus | mindjuju: Texas obviously wins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Texas_vs._Ohio_State_football_game |
| 00:14.48 | mindjuju | RedHeron - Walt Disney Aladdin |
| 00:15.05 | RedHeron | mindjuju: Yes. Hazard of having children. But still apt. |
| 00:15.16 | beandog | ~uhf |
| 00:15.17 | jbot | methinks uhf is one of the best movies ever made |
| 00:15.24 | mindjuju | true that, jbot |
| 00:15.37 | RedHeron | Personally, speaking, of course. |
| 00:15.55 | RedHeron | s/Personally,/Personally |
| 00:16.08 | RedHeron | Phew... almost put the closing / on that. |
| 00:17.07 | herlo | RedHeron: why does that matter? |
| 00:17.13 | herlo | or did you not want to change it |
| 00:17.25 | RedHeron | No, I just hate bots, and didn't wanna trigger it |
| 00:17.37 | fungus | ~frenchtaunt RedHeron |
| 00:17.38 | jbot | ACTION summons the french taunter! You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms! |
| 00:17.53 | RedHeron | fungus: I fart in your general direction! |
| 00:19.49 | fungus | ~tunafart RedHeron |
| 00:19.50 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to RedHeron, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 00:21.23 | herlo | RedHeron: you know that bots are useful right? |
| 00:21.41 | fungus | ~google useful |
| 00:22.10 | RedHeron | herlo: Yes, especially when bots put friends of mine in foreign countries in jail. |
| 00:22.16 | RedHeron | Very useful indeed. |
| 00:22.32 | fungus | ~cookie |
| 00:22.34 | herlo | RedHeron: hows that? |
| 00:22.53 | RedHeron | herlo: They spoke against their government. Oddly enough, the government didn't like it. |
| 00:23.26 | herlo | and the bot proved it? How si that a bots fault. They shouldn't discuss things like that if they know its against the law... |
| 00:23.36 | herlo | s/si /is / |
| 00:23.42 | RedHeron | herlo: The bot was owned by IRSeek. |
| 00:23.52 | herlo | k |
| 00:23.54 | herlo | and? |
| 00:24.07 | RedHeron | You wanted to know why I hate bots. That's the reasoning. |
| 00:24.30 | RedHeron | And I hate IRSeek more than I hate bots. |
| 00:25.27 | RedHeron | http://torrentfreak.com/nin-confirms-bittorrent-uploads-080305/ |
| 00:25.30 | herlo | I don't know who they are? |
| 00:25.31 | RedHeron | Gah... |
| 00:25.34 | RedHeron | wrong window |
| 00:25.44 | herlo | RedHeron: its okay, I am happy nin is doing that |
| 00:25.46 | RedHeron | herlo: IRSeek goes into random chat rooms and records them. |
| 00:25.55 | RedHeron | herlo: As am I. |
| 00:26.03 | herlo | RedHeron: that should be illegal |
| 00:26.08 | RedHeron | Still... it went into the wrong window. |
| 00:26.09 | herlo | at least in the US |
| 00:26.18 | RedHeron | herlo: It's not. |
| 00:26.20 | herlo | RedHeron: no, I was referring to IRSeek |
| 00:26.21 | RedHeron | They've been sued. |
| 00:26.30 | RedHeron | So was I. |
| 00:26.54 | RedHeron | The reason it's not illegal: they're from Australia. |
| 00:27.13 | herlo | so how is it permissible in a us court? |
| 00:27.21 | RedHeron | IRC is considered "an international forum which is open to the public" there. |
| 00:27.43 | RedHeron | herlo: By virtue of the fact that they didn't come into the US to break the law. |
| 00:27.48 | herlo | oh |
| 00:27.50 | RedHeron | Civil law is a funny thing. |
| 00:27.53 | herlo | okay... |
| 00:28.15 | herlo | the thing is, did those friends of yours get busted in the US? If so, that should be *illegal* for sure |
| 00:28.25 | RedHeron | No, they got busted in Burma. |
| 00:28.40 | RedHeron | At a restaurant, with a wireless laptop connection, IIRC. |
| 00:29.07 | herlo | ahh, that's different. They should know better though... |
| 00:29.15 | RedHeron | And they got busted because the bot displayed the records of the chat channel on a public website. |
| 00:29.16 | tierra | ~version |
| 00:29.16 | jbot | somebody said version was Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -d |
| 00:29.22 | herlo | but I don't agree with teh burmese gov't |
| 00:29.29 | RedHeron | Nor do I. |
| 00:31.33 | RedHeron | But what they said was: "I disagree with only some of what the government does" and there was nothing more specific than that, that I'm aware of. But it was enough. They're in jail for an indeterminate amount of time. |
| 00:32.09 | mindjuju | are they ex-pats or citizens? |
| 00:32.31 | RedHeron | mindjuju: They were still citizens... and living in Burma. |
| 00:32.38 | mindjuju | ah |
| 00:32.51 | mindjuju | lived in China for a year |
| 00:33.08 | RedHeron | That would be interesting. |
| 00:33.14 | mindjuju | was followed on several occassions, red laser against window every now and then |
| 00:33.46 | mindjuju | i'm not REALLY all that interesting, felt sorry for the people observing me |
| 00:33.52 | RedHeron | Yeah, I think it's odd how they claim to be a democracy, and yet embrace socialist despotism. |
| 00:34.17 | herlo | RedHeron: they are nowhere near a democracy |
| 00:34.26 | *** join/#uphpu nvrpunk (n=root@81.90.21.227) |
| 00:34.33 | RedHeron | herlo: Their constitution says otherwise. |
| 00:34.47 | herlo | the US really isn't a democracy either, but our system at least can't arrest us for saying we disagree with the government |
| 00:34.58 | herlo | RedHeron: just cause the constitution says so, doesn't mean it is... |
| 00:35.49 | nvrpunk | anyone looking for work by chance? |
| 00:36.38 | RedHeron | But not, you know, like the video game. Though flying around in a space ship would be cool. |
| 00:36.40 | nvrpunk | pm ok? |
| 00:36.42 | RedHeron | Sure. |
| 00:44.50 | mindjuju | RedHeron - sorry to hear about your friends |
| 00:46.37 | RedHeron | mindjuju: Yeah, and the worst part is, it was actually a hijacked bot... it didn't even belong to them. |
| 00:46.59 | herlo | RedHeron: that sux0rz |
| 00:47.15 | RedHeron | It does, quite. |
| 01:06.58 | *** join/#uphpu jnbek (n=jnbek@72.8.114.252) |
| 01:45.47 | *** join/#uphpu burnin (n=burnin@204-228-142-194.ip.xmission.com) |
| 01:45.47 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v burnin] by ChanServ |
| 02:11.31 | *** join/#uphpu eco (n=eco@gnuk.net) |
| 02:11.43 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v eco] by ChanServ |
| 02:11.43 | *** join/#uphpu burnin (n=burnin@204-228-142-194.ip.xmission.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:11.43 | *** join/#uphpu nvrpunk (n=root@81.90.21.227) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:11.43 | *** join/#uphpu xilch|w (n=xilch@ip65-44-116-165.z116-44-65.customer.algx.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:11.43 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v burnin] by irc.freenode.net |
| 02:11.45 | *** join/#uphpu mindjuju (n=mindjuju@76.8.222.130) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:11.45 | *** join/#uphpu decriptor (n=decripto@166-70-62-134.ip.xmission.com) |
| 02:11.45 | *** join/#uphpu brasto (n=brasto@166.70.44.49) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:11.45 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+ov mindjuju brasto] by irc.freenode.net |
| 02:11.47 | *** join/#uphpu macnewbold (n=mac@166.70.178.114) |
| 02:11.47 | *** join/#uphpu RedHeron (n=RedHeron@c-98-202-56-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:11.47 | *** join/#uphpu undertakingyou (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 02:11.47 | *** join/#uphpu unum (n=unum@70.89.247.221) |
| 02:11.47 | *** join/#uphpu herlo (n=clints@166-70-63-209.ip.xmission.com) |
| 02:11.47 | *** join/#uphpu tierra (n=tierra@ibaku.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:11.47 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+ovv macnewbold herlo tierra] by irc.freenode.net |
| 02:12.13 | *** join/#uphpu bradym (n=bradym@63-197-255-78.ded.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:12.13 | *** join/#uphpu PoeticIntensity (n=jason@67.137.24.218) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:12.13 | *** join/#uphpu pelaofeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 02:12.13 | *** join/#uphpu jsmith-away (n=jsmith@72.21.36.138) |
| 02:12.13 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+vvv bradym PoeticIntensity jsmith-away] by irc.freenode.net |
| 02:12.13 | *** join/#uphpu RedHeron (n=RedHeron@c-98-202-56-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:12.13 | *** join/#uphpu RedHeron (n=RedHeron@c-98-202-56-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:12.36 | *** join/#uphpu eco_ (n=eco@gnuk.net) |
| 02:32.28 | *** join/#uphpu macnewbold (n=mac@166.70.178.114) |
| 02:32.28 | *** join/#uphpu RedHeron (n=RedHeron@c-98-202-56-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:32.28 | *** join/#uphpu undertakingyou (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:32.28 | *** join/#uphpu unum (n=unum@70.89.247.221) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:32.28 | *** join/#uphpu herlo (n=clints@166-70-63-209.ip.xmission.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:32.28 | *** join/#uphpu tierra (n=tierra@ibaku.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:32.28 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+ovv macnewbold herlo tierra] by irc.freenode.net |
| 02:32.56 | *** join/#uphpu macnewbol1 (n=mac@166.70.178.114) |
| 02:37.53 | *** join/#uphpu josephscott (n=josephsc@63-228-200-73.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 02:37.53 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v josephscott] by ChanServ |
| 02:53.31 | *** join/#uphpu jnbek (n=jnbek@72.8.114.252) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:45.19 | *** join/#uphpu wps (n=wps@208.53.47.251) |
| 03:45.19 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 04:48.06 | *** join/#uphpu synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 04:48.07 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v synic] by ChanServ |
| 04:48.58 | *** join/#uphpu orsonj (n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:48.58 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v orsonj] by irc.freenode.net |
| 05:46.49 | *** join/#uphpu dataw0lf (n=stderr@71.9.96.129) |
| 05:46.49 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v dataw0lf] by ChanServ |
| 05:47.09 | *** part/#uphpu dataw0lf (n=stderr@71.9.96.129) |
| 05:50.21 | *** join/#uphpu dataw0lf (n=stderr@71.9.96.129) |
| 05:50.21 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v dataw0lf] by ChanServ |
| 07:00.10 | *** join/#uphpu DexterTh1Dragon (n=admin@70-58-107-163.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 07:21.11 | *** join/#uphpu orsonj (n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 07:36.37 | *** join/#uphpu jnbek (n=jnbek@72.8.114.252) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 07:40.38 | *** join/#uphpu xilch|w (n=xilch@ip65-44-116-165.z116-44-65.customer.algx.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:02.10 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v DexterTheDragon] by ChanServ |
| 15:02.02 | *** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=David_Bo@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 15:02.02 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ |
| 15:27.22 | *** join/#uphpu beandog (n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog) |
| 15:27.22 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v beandog] by ChanServ |
| 15:27.59 | beandog | buenos dias |
| 15:28.02 | beandog | senorita |
| 15:50.26 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc (n=sparky@66.7.114.125) |
| 15:50.26 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v SunSparc] by ChanServ |
| 15:55.29 | *** join/#uphpu fungus (n=olsonl@fungus.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 15:55.29 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o fungus] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.45 | *** join/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 16:03.45 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v mgeary] by ChanServ |
| 16:21.23 | *** join/#uphpu _psychic_ (n=_psychic@66.7.114.125) |
| 16:21.23 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v _psychic_] by ChanServ |
| 16:22.04 | *** join/#uphpu swb (n=designsi@box324.bluehost.com) |
| 16:22.04 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v swb] by ChanServ |
| 16:27.49 | *** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=David_Bo@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 16:31.48 | *** join/#uphpu josephscott (n=josephsc@63-228-200-73.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 16:31.48 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v josephscott] by ChanServ |
| 16:55.15 | beandog | http://www.lefthandedtoons.com/170/ |
| 17:06.05 | SunSparc | This one is even better: http://www.lefthandedtoons.com/175/ |
| 17:08.25 | *** join/#uphpu _psychic_ (n=_psychic@66.7.114.125) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 17:08.25 | *** join/#uphpu orsonj (n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 17:08.25 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v _psychic_] by irc.freenode.net |
| 17:17.50 | *** join/#uphpu bradym (n=bradym@63-197-255-78.ded.pacbell.net) |
| 17:17.50 | *** join/#uphpu xilch|w (n=xilch@ip65-44-116-165.z116-44-65.customer.algx.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 17:18.01 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v bradym] by ChanServ |
| 17:18.43 | *** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=David_Bo@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 17:18.43 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ |
| 17:22.08 | *** join/#uphpu jnbek (n=jnbek@72.8.114.252) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 17:25.51 | beandog | Hmm |
| 17:25.57 | beandog | Ive decided the world needs more Disney musicals. |
| 17:26.12 | beandog | now_playing[Richard Sherman, Robert Sherman - The Happiest Millionaire - Overture] length[0:03/2:34] |
| 17:29.56 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, have you seen Hairspray? |
| 17:30.03 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: Do you have a sec for a question? |
| 17:30.07 | Utah_Dave | or two? |
| 17:38.36 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v orsonj] by ChanServ |
| 17:46.51 | *** join/#uphpu thebigdog (n=thebigdo@0006yE-Yn.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 17:46.51 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o thebigdog] by ChanServ |
| 17:52.53 | thebigdog | geek lunch today at chipolets in bountiful |
| 17:59.15 | tierra | hmmm |
| 17:59.22 | tierra | that's a thought |
| 18:00.41 | *** join/#uphpu thinbegin (n=thinbegi@206.71.78.158) |
| 18:08.52 | *** join/#uphpu wps (n=wps@208.53.47.251) |
| 18:08.52 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o wps] by ChanServ |
| 18:11.27 | *** join/#uphpu cyco|h (i=cyco|h@227.sub-70-193-19.myvzw.com) |
| 18:47.56 | *** join/#uphpu nei_rauni (n=nei@201.86.2.75.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 18:49.03 | *** join/#uphpu burnin (n=burnin@204-228-142-194.ip.xmission.com) |
| 18:49.03 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v burnin] by ChanServ |
| 19:15.01 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc_ (n=sparky@66.7.114.125) |
| 19:19.13 | PoeticIntensity | heh... sweet.. |
| 19:19.24 | *** join/#uphpu timinator (n=timothy@c-67-164-197-225.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:19.24 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v timinator] by ChanServ |
| 19:19.25 | PoeticIntensity | I just beat my high score on Desktop Tower Defense by 2 points! woot! |
| 19:20.10 | timinator | how large of a file size should you push to FTP rather than HTTP on DOWNLOADS ONLY?? |
| 19:20.55 | PoeticIntensity | I'd say around 20 megs...' |
| 19:21.00 | timinator | had this conversation a couple days ago about uploading files..... and the consensus was around 30MB, it should be pushed to FTP |
| 19:21.02 | timinator | ya? |
| 19:21.05 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc__ (n=sparky@66.7.114.125) |
| 19:21.15 | PoeticIntensity | I've never had to deal with extremely large files via http, though. |
| 19:21.18 | timinator | because of download speeds? or what? |
| 19:21.28 | PoeticIntensity | so... I don't really have any super-dooper experience.. |
| 19:21.30 | PoeticIntensity | well... |
| 19:21.45 | PoeticIntensity | because FTP was meant to transfer large files... |
| 19:21.47 | timinator | well, I've pulled apps off via HTTP |
| 19:21.55 | timinator | and Linux OS installs |
| 19:21.56 | PoeticIntensity | http can do it, but it wasn't intended to. |
| 19:21.59 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah... me too. |
| 19:22.11 | PoeticIntensity | I regularly pull updates of 200+ megs from http. |
| 19:22.20 | PoeticIntensity | (openoffice) |
| 19:22.33 | PoeticIntensity | so... not-so-regularly.... but once every 6 months or so.. |
| 19:22.36 | timinator | I'm just wondering if a 200MB or 500MB file should be pulled via FTP for some major reason |
| 19:22.44 | timinator | cause I'd rather use HTTP for this client |
| 19:22.46 | PoeticIntensity | major? not sure... |
| 19:22.52 | PoeticIntensity | well... |
| 19:23.02 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju was having some serious issues with large file a bit ago.. |
| 19:23.10 | PoeticIntensity | depends on the server, I guess. |
| 19:23.24 | PoeticIntensity | I use wget via http and it works flawlessly no matter the filesize. |
| 19:24.39 | PoeticIntensity | so, in answer to your question, I guess it would depend on the setup, and previous experience with that setup and large files. |
| 19:24.53 | timinator | ya, me too...... but this is for an integrated solution on a customer's website |
| 19:24.57 | timinator | for their customers |
| 19:25.06 | timinator | k |
| 19:25.09 | timinator | sounds good |
| 19:26.49 | jsmith | Mmmmn... Calvin and Hobbes |
| 19:27.27 | mindjuju | what kind of world do we live in where there are fresh comics about a dumb cat and a plate of lasagna, but we can't get any more Calvin and Hobbes? |
| 19:28.34 | timinator | no doubt |
| 19:29.46 | jsmith | mindjuju: It's about commercialization. Comics about a cat and comics turned into all kinds of other merchandise, which necessitates the need for more comics about a cat and lasagna |
| 19:30.05 | jsmith | s/cat and comics/cat and lasagna/ |
| 19:30.43 | mindjuju | who routinely battled the Susie Derkin's Clan |
| 19:32.25 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v SunSparc] by ChanServ |
| 19:35.42 | mindjuju | that mindjuju #6 was a smarmy no-good do-gooder! |
| 19:35.45 | unum | G.R.O.S.S. ? |
| 19:35.56 | mindjuju | Get Rid Of Slimy girlS |
| 19:36.32 | unum | we called her anti girl group F.S.L.C. |
| 19:36.57 | mindjuju | what does that stand for? |
| 19:37.04 | unum | atleast judging be the people in attendence I thin that's what that club was about |
| 19:37.16 | unum | Free Software and Linux Club |
| 19:37.27 | mindjuju | heh |
| 19:38.28 | unum | apparantly I missed out on all the fun things that people do in college |
| 19:38.38 | unum | not that I was doing homework or going to class |
| 19:39.13 | unum | but the stress of always knowing that I should be doing homework is something I never want to experience again |
| 19:39.26 | mindjuju | yeah, true that. |
| 19:39.52 | unum | when I hear people talk about going "back" to school I always ask them what's wrong with them |
| 19:40.06 | unum | though I really did look forward to going to some of my polisci classes |
| 19:40.08 | mindjuju | did you take any classes that were fun? |
| 19:40.22 | unum | maybe my problem was that I was the wrong major for most of my college time |
| 19:40.39 | mindjuju | yeah, was going to say, i'd short change some classes and put tons of effort into poli sci |
| 19:41.05 | unum | I didn't want to waste money taking classes I didn't neet to graduate |
| 19:41.22 | unum | s/neet/need |
| 19:41.57 | unum | once I was interdiscplinary I enjoyed school more and did a lot better |
| 19:42.19 | unum | it's not that I couldn't understand the calculus it's just I didn't want to spend ten hours a week doing it |
| 19:42.20 | mindjuju | what activities did you do |
| 19:43.16 | unum | fslc :) |
| 19:43.25 | mindjuju | ah |
| 19:43.38 | SunSparc | unum: watch your language |
| 19:43.39 | unum | in the winter I never wanted to leave my house |
| 19:44.08 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:44.44 | unum | in the summer I'd play softball |
| 19:44.58 | unum | and go for hike and go to camp fires with friends |
| 19:45.06 | unum | but I still do all of that |
| 19:45.20 | mindjuju | the best place for a college is Virginia |
| 19:45.37 | mindjuju | winters were pretty with tons of trees and snow, tree covered mountians |
| 19:45.49 | mindjuju | spring / summer - tons of trees, camping, fireflies |
| 19:45.55 | mindjuju | summer, meh, typical |
| 19:47.02 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, no, havent seen it. I have this thing against guys playing fat women in drag. Go figure. :) |
| 19:47.09 | beandog | brb |
| 19:47.23 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 19:47.43 | mindjuju | what movie? hairspray? |
| 19:49.24 | unum | I'm a lot happier now than I ever was in college. a lot more time and money than I ever had then |
| 19:49.43 | unum | pluss I can by nice stuff so more girls pay attention to me |
| 20:16.51 | beandog | mindjuju, thats a little scary that you picked up on that so fast |
| 20:27.17 | *** join/#uphpu _psychic_ (n=_psychic@66.7.114.125) |
| 20:27.17 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v _psychic_] by ChanServ |
| 20:43.41 | mindjuju | beandog - haven't actually seen the movie |
| 20:44.06 | beandog | that reminds me, did you hear there is going to be a Transformer 2 |
| 20:44.13 | beandog | More Optimus Prime lips! |
| 20:44.28 | mindjuju | yeah, still haven't seen the first one |
| 20:45.43 | beandog | Youre not missing a thing. |
| 20:45.53 | mindjuju | figures |
| 20:45.59 | mindjuju | wasn't a big fan of the v first movie either |
| 20:49.04 | beandog | the animated one? |
| 20:49.18 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:49.23 | beandog | I still havent seen that one |
| 20:49.30 | mindjuju | don't bother, its dumb |
| 20:49.38 | beandog | thats never stopped me before |
| 20:50.06 | mindjuju | in that case, i have Star Wars Holiday Special |
| 20:50.21 | mindjuju | though i'd put $$ down you CAN'T finish watching it |
| 20:50.40 | beandog | heh |
| 20:50.43 | beandog | Ive heard about that thing. |
| 20:51.04 | mindjuju | i thought i could watch it. I made it 20 minutes in |
| 20:51.13 | beandog | what happened after that? |
| 20:51.15 | beandog | did you black out? |
| 20:51.38 | mindjuju | woke up 2 days later |
| 20:52.43 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:54.06 | PoeticIntensity | yo, beandog... I'm getting a bit more serious about looking for a slim, quiet, low-footprint front-end computer for myth... |
| 20:54.15 | PoeticIntensity | I know you've done like gigbytes of research on that... |
| 20:54.19 | PoeticIntensity | mind if I pick your brain? |
| 20:54.24 | beandog | you know |
| 20:54.26 | beandog | as odd as this sounsd |
| 20:54.30 | beandog | I would use a DOC device |
| 20:54.39 | beandog | no heat, no sound. |
| 20:54.40 | PoeticIntensity | I'd take that advice if I knew what you were talking about. :) |
| 20:54.42 | beandog | Of course, no space, either. |
| 20:54.50 | beandog | I dont even know how much they cost, brb. |
| 20:54.51 | PoeticIntensity | what is a DOC device? |
| 20:54.56 | beandog | disk on chip |
| 20:55.08 | beandog | Its a flash device with an FTL so that you can write to it as a normal hdd |
| 20:55.10 | PoeticIntensity | I don't need much HD space. |
| 20:55.18 | beandog | Well, Im talking youd get 512 mb max. |
| 20:55.19 | PoeticIntensity | sounds good. |
| 20:55.27 | beandog | So, frontend *only* |
| 20:55.27 | beandog | sec. |
| 20:55.27 | PoeticIntensity | that's okay... just enough to run gentoo / myth |
| 20:55.29 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 20:57.40 | beandog | of course I cant even *find* one now. |
| 20:57.43 | beandog | Maybe Ill steal one from work. |
| 20:59.29 | beandog | http://www.memorydepot.com/details.asp?id=FD256MIDE2544 |
| 20:59.31 | beandog | thats close. |
| 20:59.51 | PoeticIntensity | thankee. |
| 21:06.22 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, what small are you looking to go? Are you gonna get a mini-itx? |
| 21:06.26 | beandog | er, how. |
| 21:06.39 | PoeticIntensity | as small as possible. |
| 21:06.45 | PoeticIntensity | and still affordable / reasonable. |
| 21:06.54 | *** join/#uphpu cycokilr (n=cycokilr@216.112.116.6.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 21:06.56 | beandog | Hmm |
| 21:07.03 | beandog | The problem is that small cases cost as much as desktop ones. |
| 21:07.14 | beandog | So, ~$150-$200 for a tiny mini-itx case still. |
| 21:07.25 | beandog | not to mention the mobos are about the same price |
| 21:07.27 | beandog | :T |
| 21:08.29 | beandog | theres this one site Id really recommend for a jumping off point, sec. |
| 21:08.54 | beandog | http://www.logicsupply.com/ |
| 21:09.08 | beandog | http://www.mini-itx.com/ |
| 21:09.09 | beandog | that too |
| 21:10.14 | Utah_Dave | http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/flash_memory/40_pin_ide_flash_modules |
| 21:11.20 | beandog | If you can, find one with an FTL on it |
| 21:11.31 | beandog | FTL = Flash Transition Layer, so it will work as a "normal" hard drive device. |
| 21:11.43 | beandog | If you don't, youll have to use a solid state filesystem instead |
| 21:11.47 | beandog | JFFS2 or .. whats the other one. |
| 21:11.50 | beandog | can't remember. |
| 21:11.57 | beandog | CramFS? That doesnt seem right. |
| 21:12.01 | beandog | I cant remember. |
| 21:12.22 | beandog | Either one is possible, but it might be a bit more painful. |
| 21:15.28 | beandog | http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/index.html |
| 21:29.00 | *** join/#uphpu Trevy1 (n=Trevyn@70.0.44.47) |
| 21:29.08 | Trevy1 | Any good topics today? |
| 21:31.51 | *** part/#uphpu Trevy1 (n=Trevyn@70.0.44.47) |
| 21:49.54 | mgeary | hrm |
| 21:50.06 | mgeary | ~lart dnsreport.com for going non-free :/ |
| 21:50.06 | jbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up dnsreport.com for going non-free :/ |
| 21:53.48 | mindjuju | yeah, used to love dnsstuff.com |
| 21:57.44 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for the info, beandog . |
| 22:02.55 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, did that help at all |
| 22:03.10 | beandog | There is actually a dizzying array of options when it comes to mini boxes. |
| 22:03.27 | PoeticIntensity | I copied down the URLs.... haven't had time to search today yet. |
| 22:03.48 | beandog | kk |
| 22:03.48 | PoeticIntensity | I'm sure I'll get a fair amount of research in before I buy anything.. |
| 22:03.58 | PoeticIntensity | this box is for our upstairs TV.... |
| 22:04.02 | PoeticIntensity | we're sick of the kids ruining the DVDs. |
| 22:04.22 | mindjuju | you can get an xbox on ebay for Fiddy bucks |
| 22:04.27 | beandog | now thats true ... if you want quick and quiet and relatively cheap, xbox + xbmc would be a great option. |
| 22:04.31 | mindjuju | softmod that bad boy |
| 22:04.37 | mindjuju | takes 2 hours, tops |
| 22:04.44 | PoeticIntensity | I've considered that, as well... |
| 22:04.55 | PoeticIntensity | I have yet to actually talk to anyone who has made a myth front-end out of one.... |
| 22:04.56 | mindjuju | and that's if you play spilter cell a little |
| 22:05.01 | PoeticIntensity | although many, many, many people claim it can be done. |
| 22:05.29 | mindjuju | PI, i still want to do a myth backend and use XBMC front end |
| 22:05.36 | mindjuju | it's hawt |
| 22:05.46 | PoeticIntensity | I'm unfamiliar with XBMC. |
| 22:05.52 | PoeticIntensity | is that myth-related? |
| 22:06.09 | mindjuju | not myth related |
| 22:06.28 | mindjuju | but if myth will dump its recorded progs to a network drive, xbmc can grab and play |
| 22:06.47 | beandog | XBMC = Xbox Media Center. I think its a full blown media center. I dont know what it uses to share stuff though. NFS / Samba Id guess. |
| 22:06.53 | beandog | Oh, right. |
| 22:07.09 | PoeticIntensity | hrm.... |
| 22:07.21 | PoeticIntensity | I'm probably gonna need the myth front-end interface to keep the wife happy. |
| 22:07.38 | PoeticIntensity | she uses myth all the time for movies / tv shows. |
| 22:07.51 | PoeticIntensity | it's also gonna have to connect wirelessly.... |
| 22:07.59 | PoeticIntensity | I was an idiot and didn't wire the upstairs when I had the chance... |
| 22:08.06 | PoeticIntensity | ~smack PoeticIntensity |
| 22:08.06 | jbot | ACTION smacks PoeticIntensity upside the head. |
| 22:08.56 | PoeticIntensity | anyone here know if the oci8 module in PHP connects using plain-text across the wire? |
| 22:15.01 | beandog | Ok |
| 22:15.02 | beandog | so |
| 22:15.09 | beandog | Which is better, or does it make a difference ... |
| 22:15.13 | beandog | If you are validating a form with javascript |
| 22:15.35 | beandog | Should you do onSubmit() on the form element, or onClick() on t he submit button to callt he validate function? |
| 22:16.14 | mindjuju | i do onsubmit if i am going to be checking multiple things |
| 22:16.24 | mindjuju | or rather, validating multiple things |
| 22:19.16 | beandog | ok |
| 22:20.06 | Utah_Dave | beandog: what happens if they don't actually click on the button, but just hit the Enter key? |
| 22:20.15 | beandog | thats waht I was checking |
| 22:20.19 | beandog | looks like the onSubmit one works |
| 22:20.22 | beandog | er |
| 22:20.25 | beandog | I mean the other one. |
| 22:20.29 | beandog | er no, thats right. |
| 22:20.31 | beandog | -_- |
| 22:20.37 | mindjuju | ? |
| 22:21.00 | beandog | <form onsubmit ... works if you just fill it out and hit enter. |
| 22:21.35 | mindjuju | <form name="foo" action="bar.php" method="post" onSubmit="return validateEntries()"> |
| 22:23.45 | beandog | right |
| 22:23.50 | beandog | thaz it. |
| 22:24.13 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 22:31.19 | beandog | Its time for another Disney soundtrack |
| 22:31.20 | beandog | now_playing[Irwin Kostal, Richard Sherman, Robert Sherman - Bedknobs and Broomsticks - Overture - The Old Home Guard] length[0:10/5:33] |
| 22:31.34 | beandog | good ol Irwin. |
| 22:56.50 | beandog | I wonder how much chocolate cake I can eat before my bowels rise up in rebellion. |
| 22:57.25 | mindjuju | in one sitting? |
| 22:57.47 | SunSparc | Just do it really fast before your stomach knows what hit it. |
| 22:58.17 | mindjuju | course though, your stomach may be snooping in on what your hands are typing and therefore, already alerted |
| 22:58.42 | mindjuju | i bet your stomach has some kind of keylogger on your hands |
| 22:59.34 | beandog | oh noes! |
| 22:59.44 | SunSparc | LOL |
| 23:06.08 | _psychic_ | anyone ever had a problem where mail sent from PHP has a bad relay param set? |
| 23:06.20 | mgeary | like what? |
| 23:06.28 | _psychic_ | relay=www@localhost |
| 23:06.36 | _psychic_ | it should be: |
| 23:06.37 | _psychic_ | relay=localhost.localdomain. |
| 23:07.25 | _psychic_ | the messages I sent get hung up in the queue |
| 23:08.44 | SunSparc | is the localdomain in the /etc/mail/local-host-names file? |
| 23:09.10 | SunSparc | Or whatever the similar file is on your server? |
| 23:09.17 | _psychic_ | the FQDN? |
| 23:09.29 | SunSparc | If Sendmail does not know it should know what domain it is sending for it will give relay errors |
| 23:09.34 | SunSparc | Yes, FQDN |
| 23:10.00 | _psychic_ | I'm getting this: "DSN: Data format error" |
| 23:10.13 | _psychic_ | but the only difference between ones that go and ones that dont is the relay |
| 23:10.15 | SunSparc | DSN? OR DNS? |
| 23:10.30 | _psychic_ | and there's like 25 FQDNs in that file |
| 23:10.50 | SunSparc | Should be one or two for each vhost |
| 23:11.11 | SunSparc | DSN would indicate some kind of ODBC problem |
| 23:11.26 | SunSparc | DNS would indicate perhaps a bad DNS entry |
| 23:11.51 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 23:16.13 | SunSparc | ?? |
| 23:18.17 | PoeticIntensity | !! |
| 23:19.14 | SunSparc | _o0o_ |
| 23:19.57 | mindjuju | k, DI.fm is playing crap and I need something to listen to |
| 23:20.07 | mindjuju | anybody got a tap on a good source of electronica ? |
| 23:21.09 | SunSparc | Pandora? |
| 23:23.03 | *** join/#uphpu mgeary_ (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 23:23.17 | _psychic_ | 60Hz aint bad to listen to |
| 23:24.27 | _psychic_ | It's gotta be a PHP thing |
| 23:24.32 | _psychic_ | if I run php-cli it works fine :/ |
| 23:26.53 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 23:28.23 | SunSparc | Is the cli version exactly the same as the apache mod version? And same build options? |
| 23:28.31 | SunSparc | I assume yes. |
| 23:28.42 | _psychic_ | evidence seems to indicate otherwise |
| 23:28.49 | SunSparc | Yes? |
| 23:29.28 | SunSparc | Is this on staging? |
| 23:29.39 | _psychic_ | it's not exactly the same because one sends mail and the other doesn't :) |
| 23:30.10 | SunSparc | :P |
| 23:32.41 | timinator | you guys mind an apache question? |
| 23:33.20 | SunSparc | Sure, we live in Utah. Nothing wrong with some cultural questions. |
| 23:33.21 | timinator | I've got a rewrite rule, that works great in the .conf, but it doesn't work in the .htaccess file |
| 23:33.30 | timinator | har har har |
| 23:33.37 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:33.59 | SunSparc | quack |
| 23:34.02 | timinator | lol |
| 23:34.11 | SunSparc | Check the Override settings for that vhost |
| 23:34.11 | timinator | anyway |
| 23:34.28 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v mgeary] by ChanServ |
| 23:34.39 | timinator | the .htaccess file works, cause if I type junk in there, it gives a Server error |
| 23:35.21 | timinator | RewriteEngine on |
| 23:35.22 | timinator | RewriteRule loc/(.*)$ /jack.php?x=$1 |
| 23:35.36 | timinator | in the .conf, it rewrites to jack w/ the var |
| 23:36.01 | timinator | but in the .htaccess: Not Found |
| 23:36.02 | timinator | The requested URL /loc/TOLO was not found on this server. |
| 23:36.41 | timinator | I can't figure out what I'm missing |
| 23:36.43 | timinator | :( |
| 23:37.40 | timinator | any thoughts? |
| 23:37.53 | _psychic_ | what's the loc in there for? |
| 23:38.00 | timinator | apache error log == [Wed Mar 5 18:14:36 2008] [error] [client 67.164.197.225] File does not exist: /var/www/vhosts/html/files.timothyhumphrey/loc/TOLO |
| 23:38.22 | timinator | for a subdirectory.... so it's not redirecting all traffic |
| 23:38.31 | SunSparc | Same exact rewrite stuff in httpd.conf and .htaccess? |
| 23:38.36 | _psychic_ | the .htaccess isn't in that subdirectory? |
| 23:38.36 | timinator | yes |
| 23:38.46 | _psychic_ | might be easier if you stick it in there |
| 23:38.47 | timinator | it's in the dir |
| 23:39.09 | timinator | it's in files.timothyhumphrey |
| 23:39.09 | _psychic_ | that way you can just do (.*) /jack.php?x=$1 |
| 23:39.21 | _psychic_ | stick it in files.th/loc/ |
| 23:39.30 | timinator | ..... okay |
| 23:39.58 | _psychic_ | RewriteRule (.*) /jack.php?x=$1 [L] |
| 23:40.11 | _psychic_ | maybe? |
| 23:40.41 | timinator | no go on putting it in /loc |
| 23:40.51 | timinator | will try |
| 23:41.40 | timinator | that's a negatory _psychic_ |
| 23:41.48 | _psychic_ | hm |
| 23:41.56 | _psychic_ | ^(.*)$ ? |
| 23:42.15 | dataw0lf | awh, ye old days of screwring with mod_rewrite |
| 23:42.24 | dataw0lf | so I'm working fulltime in Django now. |
| 23:42.48 | _psychic_ | Once I had pneumonia. |
| 23:43.03 | _psychic_ | timinator: what URL causes the 404? |
| 23:43.05 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: cool |
| 23:43.20 | dataw0lf | yea I'm excited |
| 23:43.41 | timinator | http://files.timothyhumphrey.com/loc/TOLO |
| 23:44.01 | _psychic_ | and the .htaccess is in the loc folder at this point? |
| 23:44.25 | timinator | not anymore.... but was getting the same error |
| 23:44.33 | _psychic_ | so it's in the docroot? |
| 23:44.44 | timinator | it's in files.timothyhumphrey.com |
| 23:44.46 | timinator | yes |
| 23:44.53 | timinator | and the code is as follows: |
| 23:44.54 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: what python library would you point me to for editing xml? |
| 23:44.54 | _psychic_ | RewriteEngine On |
| 23:44.54 | timinator | RewriteEngine on |
| 23:44.54 | timinator | RewriteRule loc/(.*)$ /jack.php?x=$1 |
| 23:45.05 | _psychic_ | wonder if that's case sensitive |
| 23:45.16 | timinator | perhaps |
| 23:45.29 | _psychic_ | On vs. on |
| 23:45.33 | timinator | saved.... no go |
| 23:45.38 | timinator | changed to On |
| 23:45.41 | timinator | no change |
| 23:45.53 | _psychic_ | try to redirect everything |
| 23:46.07 | timinator | ^$ |
| 23:46.18 | _psychic_ | RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /jack.php?x=$1 [QSA,L] |
| 23:47.06 | timinator | no change |
| 23:47.12 | timinator | uuurgh |
| 23:47.45 | timinator | It works great in the .conf.... but I won't have access on the live server |
| 23:47.54 | timinator | cause it's a shared server |
| 23:49.29 | SunSparc | Just out of curiosity, what are you override settings for that vhost? |
| 23:51.43 | timinator | All |
| 23:52.12 | _psychic_ | you can break the .htaccess to get a 500, right? |
| 23:53.02 | *** join/#uphpu beandog (n=steve@gentoo/developer/beandog) |
| 23:53.02 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v beandog] by ChanServ |