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| 20:09.01 | fungus | ~asplode ftp all over Black_Chaos |
| 20:09.05 | jbot | ftp all over Black_Chaos head asplode, k thx |
| 20:14.27 | Black_Chaos | ~asplode Everyone's |
| 20:14.27 | jbot | Everyone's head asplode, k thx |
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| 21:16.43 | mindjuju | holy crap! |
| 21:17.10 | mindjuju | Have ya'll seen the lastest email in the uphpu mailing list? |
| 21:17.14 | mindjuju | " Lastly, my personal opinion is that people who use MySQL are lacking some fundamental knowlege. They tend not to be very smart either. " |
| 21:18.09 | mindjuju | i wonder if it was thrown out as flamebait |
| 21:18.29 | mgeary | sounds like someone's trying to take an easy path to being perceived as smart |
| 21:18.58 | mgeary | so much easier to throw things like that out there than to actually, you know, demonstrate intelligence |
| 21:19.27 | fungus | Wow, talk about flamebait, I almost took that bait. Got me really pissed. |
| 21:19.36 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:19.50 | mindjuju | fungus, you should start go for it |
| 21:20.01 | fungus | Whatever happened to using the right tool for the right job. |
| 21:20.25 | mindjuju | don't know if jsmith is on the list, but i know he's managed farms and I count him among the smartest of people |
| 21:20.38 | mindjuju | it's got to be flamebait |
| 21:20.43 | thebigdog | that was great |
| 21:20.47 | thebigdog | i love that comment |
| 21:20.52 | wps | or he's just a punk kid idiot |
| 21:20.54 | mindjuju | yeah, i knew YOU would |
| 21:21.22 | thebigdog | jsmith, is smart enough to leave that mysql farm of evil |
| 21:21.24 | josephscott | mindjuju: got your pm, not sure if you got my response |
| 21:22.18 | fungus | MySQL is a great database for simple applications. Not for *all* apps, but many, if not most. |
| 21:22.39 | mindjuju | @josephscott, didn't get it |
| 21:22.59 | josephscott | I think PMs just don't work for me :-( |
| 21:23.01 | mindjuju | wps or jsmith, doesn't omniture use MySQL extensively |
| 21:23.08 | mindjuju | you have to be logged in to use PM |
| 21:23.14 | mindjuju | otherwise it thinks you may be spamming |
| 21:23.24 | wps | not sure if they do extensively, but they do a lot |
| 21:23.29 | josephscott | that would probably be why it doesn't work for me :-) |
| 21:23.38 | wps | MySQL is a great database all around… even for large applications |
| 21:23.48 | mindjuju | josephscott - meet me in #mindjuju |
| 21:23.51 | wps | doesn't mean it's perfect and doesn't mean it's best for everything |
| 21:24.05 | wps | it's a great solution for many things |
| 21:24.12 | josephscott | MySQL has plenty of flaws, that hasn't stopped it or anything else from becoming popular |
| 21:24.13 | fungus | agreed |
| 21:24.23 | thebigdog | esp if you dont know dbs |
| 21:24.25 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:24.55 | fungus | After spending the past week or so with Oracle, I have come to really appreciate MySQL. |
| 21:25.15 | wps | I'm not a fanboy, but MySQL isn't a toy |
| 21:25.17 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:25.21 | thebigdog | oracle rocks |
| 21:25.28 | josephscott | also heavily depends on the versions of each database product that you use. |
| 21:25.49 | wps | although why someone wouldn't use the latest is beyond me |
| 21:25.59 | thebigdog | oracle is nice if you are using it for some heavy db stuff |
| 21:26.23 | fungus | perhaps, but it's management and installation is a nightmare |
| 21:26.33 | josephscott | until wordpress starts requiring something higher than mysql 4.0 I'm going have to live with reduced feature set of mysql |
| 21:27.21 | mindjuju | heh, looks like the flamewar is starting |
| 21:28.04 | josephscott | fungus has a point, management of Oracle is a bit of a beast. Did they ever provide a reasonable explain feature? |
| 21:28.25 | fungus | Explain.. yes. Reasonable... not really |
| 21:29.09 | mindjuju | where IS elguapo, haven't seen HIM in a while |
| 21:29.11 | josephscott | don't know what it is like now, but in previous versions of Oracle you had to write your own program to decode the output of explain |
| 21:29.41 | dataw0lf | MySQL is strong where most web applications are concerned: read speed |
| 21:30.07 | dataw0lf | it's becoming less toyish as it has developed, especially since 5, but, well, it's still MySQL |
| 21:30.22 | dataw0lf | if I need a "lightweight" database, I'll use SQLite. |
| 21:31.03 | josephscott | the number of variables that goes into picking the right DB is important. |
| 21:31.32 | dataw0lf | foresight, as well. |
| 21:31.51 | kingsol | wps: omniture uses mysql extensively |
| 21:32.06 | wps | what about exclusively? |
| 21:32.13 | kingsol | it has has one of the larger mysql farms, and have been showcased at some point |
| 21:32.25 | dataw0lf | doesn't Wade work at Omniture? |
| 21:32.29 | mindjuju | yeah, i remember jsmith talking about the farm being in the 1000s if i recall |
| 21:32.35 | mindjuju | wade does and jsmith did |
| 21:32.36 | kingsol | over 10000 |
| 21:32.44 | kingsol | kingsol does too :) |
| 21:33.00 | mindjuju | wow, looks like flamewar REALLY getting started |
| 21:33.09 | dataw0lf | Also, just because you can build a farm of MySQL servers in the thousands, doesn't mean you SHOULD |
| 21:33.34 | josephscott | true that |
| 21:33.57 | dataw0lf | I'd be willing to wager that Omniture's choice of MySQL had absolutely nothing to do with technical superiority. |
| 21:34.04 | dataw0lf | but rather that it has a corporation behind it for support |
| 21:34.18 | dataw0lf | which, of course, has it's own benefits. |
| 21:34.39 | fungus | MySQL isn't technically superior, but often it can be a very good choice. |
| 21:34.46 | josephscott | the flip side is that their choice of mysql hasn't prevented them from being successful |
| 21:35.42 | dataw0lf | certainly. I'd be intrigued to know the cost of systems support and engineering, though |
| 21:36.26 | josephscott | not sure of our total count of mysql servers, probably less than 100. managed mostly by 1 person |
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| 21:37.15 | thebigdog | i would agree with dataw0lf |
| 21:37.25 | thebigdog | support is huge in the commercial side of things |
| 21:37.38 | thebigdog | that is why many like oracle if they have the $$$ |
| 21:37.46 | thebigdog | mysql has good support if not great |
| 21:37.47 | fungus | For large farms I think Pg would be better since it has had decent clustering for a long time. |
| 21:37.57 | thebigdog | pgsql - get a developer on the payroll |
| 21:38.15 | thebigdog | pgsql clusters are hard to manage though |
| 21:38.21 | dataw0lf | yea they are |
| 21:38.22 | thebigdog | you need some really good people to work on it |
| 21:38.23 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, that book looks pretty cool, i'm going to have to get that |
| 21:38.30 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: it's an excellent book |
| 21:38.37 | thebigdog | which book? |
| 21:38.45 | dataw0lf | The Pragmatic Programmer |
| 21:38.46 | fungus | What database (besides oracle) has decent clustering? |
| 21:38.56 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, oh yeah that is a GREAT one |
| 21:39.09 | thebigdog | oracle has a really nice clustering |
| 21:39.14 | josephscott | if the DB is critical to your company and you have many db servers, you are going to have db people on staff |
| 21:39.19 | dataw0lf | Oracle has the best end-all be-all clustering |
| 21:39.23 | josephscott | doesn't really matter which db that is |
| 21:39.32 | dataw0lf | well |
| 21:39.35 | dataw0lf | I dunno about you |
| 21:39.43 | fungus | I know oracle cluster is good, and mysql sucks total ass. |
| 21:39.48 | dataw0lf | but I haven't met many good DBAs who's favorite / focused DB is MySQL |
| 21:40.19 | dataw0lf | I'd bet trying to get some Oracle DBAs to work on MySQL would be amusing |
| 21:40.26 | fungus | I love mysql for many applications, but definitely not clustering. |
| 21:40.40 | dataw0lf | I feel that many of the times MySQL is overused |
| 21:40.43 | dataw0lf | like for blogs |
| 21:40.47 | dataw0lf | SQLite is fine for 99% of blogs |
| 21:40.49 | josephscott | what, don't have enough ram to keep your db in memory ? :-) |
| 21:41.14 | fungus | Exactly my point. |
| 21:41.27 | fungus | it's a terrible idea. |
| 21:41.42 | fungus | except for specialized apps |
| 21:41.46 | josephscott | dataw0lf: I think that's too broad of a statement, some blogs, just like some sites, perhaps |
| 21:42.15 | fungus | SQLite is amazing, and awesome for lots of apps. |
| 21:42.40 | fungus | Just don't expect to use it with multiple web servers connecting to a single database. |
| 21:42.50 | fungus | SQLite + NFS = death. |
| 21:43.24 | josephscott | most things + NFS = much pain, nigh unto death |
| 21:43.32 | fungus | agreed |
| 21:45.02 | thebigdog | i love db2 |
| 21:45.03 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:45.55 | thebigdog | it is |
| 21:46.14 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:46.20 | thebigdog | i love apache derby tooo |
| 21:46.28 | thebigdog | that is a slick lightweight db |
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| 21:48.50 | thebigdog | where is timinator ? |
| 21:49.05 | mindjuju | ~APB timinator |
| 21:49.06 | jbot | ACTION hires Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out timinator |
| 21:49.18 | mindjuju | i know he had some kind of project he had to finish last night |
| 21:49.20 | dataw0lf | dang i thought I was the only one who'd slam that top 40 list |
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| 21:55.40 | thebigdog | i had code comments |
| 21:55.42 | mindjuju | so swb, did you ever find anybody for your job at Myriad ? |
| 21:55.46 | thebigdog | if you can read my code |
| 21:55.50 | thebigdog | then oh well |
| 21:55.51 | swb | not yet |
| 21:56.10 | thebigdog | number 3 is my fav |
| 21:56.11 | swb | um, I think it was a mistake not to post salary in the uphpu job list |
| 21:57.08 | mgeary | ah, but that's a pain, because then your scripts need to be utf-8 |
| 21:57.21 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:57.32 | mindjuju | i use pinyin, not chinese simplified |
| 21:57.39 | mindjuju | so it's all good |
| 21:59.30 | thebigdog | one thing i love about that book dataw0lf is the idea of using code generators more |
| 21:59.42 | thebigdog | mgeary, that is one reason i use ant alot |
| 21:59.48 | thebigdog | to generate code for me |
| 22:00.50 | thebigdog | man if i only had time to do that |
| 22:01.07 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:01.08 | mindjuju | err, for thebigdog to presetn, i mean |
| 22:01.37 | wps | can someone hit omniture.com with IE 7 for me? |
| 22:02.15 | mindjuju | it's loading... |
| 22:02.25 | mindjuju | k, loaded |
| 22:02.32 | wps | seems to have come up fine? |
| 22:02.48 | mindjuju | seemed a smidge slow, but it might have been my box |
| 22:02.57 | mindjuju | looks fine |
| 22:03.05 | wps | thank you |
| 22:03.29 | timinator | I'm back |
| 22:03.36 | timinator | had something I had to take care of |
| 22:03.38 | timinator | back now |
| 22:03.52 | timinator | wassup thebigdog and mindjuju |
| 22:04.36 | dataw0lf | swb: what's the salary at for that job? |
| 22:04.57 | swb | not set yet |
| 22:05.04 | swb | I posted on uphpu a bit early |
| 22:05.22 | dataw0lf | alright lemme know, I'm moving back to SLC |
| 22:05.33 | timinator | DW in SLC??? |
| 22:05.38 | timinator | wooohooooo!!! |
| 22:05.43 | dataw0lf | yup, in May |
| 22:05.51 | dataw0lf | getting married May 4th, moving back about a week afterward :) |
| 22:06.19 | timinator | WOAH |
| 22:06.22 | timinator | marriage?!?! |
| 22:06.36 | timinator | hoooleeee crap! |
| 22:06.55 | dataw0lf | heh heh |
| 22:07.24 | mindjuju | oh freak |
| 22:07.26 | mindjuju | i missed that |
| 22:07.42 | mindjuju | did ya'll see Jennifer's response to flamebait ? |
| 22:09.10 | bradym | yeah, it's a great response |
| 22:09.42 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 22:09.56 | bradym | awesome opening statement too :) |
| 22:10.21 | timinator | ~APB thebigdog |
| 22:10.22 | jbot | ACTION hires Leland to rough up thebigdog |
| 22:10.22 | swb | very nice |
| 22:10.25 | mindjuju | yeah, i missed that he had misspelled the word |
| 22:10.32 | wps | me too |
| 22:10.34 | wps | that's awesome |
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| 22:12.06 | justingiboney | anyone have any experience installing ruby on rails on an apple? |
| 22:12.23 | wps | uh… #ruby ? |
| 22:12.50 | wps | :) |
| 22:12.57 | justingiboney | thanks |
| 22:13.13 | fungus | supposedly all the stuff is pre-installed, but I've yet to even try. |
| 22:13.18 | wps | I'm not saying that no one in here will… just surprised you asked |
| 22:13.41 | justingiboney | it is installed if you have 10.5 |
| 22:13.43 | justingiboney | i think |
| 22:14.42 | mgeary | well, i know ruby is installed, but i'm less sure about rails |
| 22:14.43 | wps | it is: http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/ |
| 22:14.52 | wps | (both) |
| 22:15.12 | justingiboney | I have 10.4 |
| 22:16.29 | thebigdog | http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ |
| 22:16.37 | thebigdog | i got the 17" w/ 4g ram |
| 22:17.28 | thebigdog | i cant remember if i upgraded the cp |
| 22:17.30 | thebigdog | cpu |
| 22:17.31 | mindjuju | show off |
| 22:17.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:17.52 | wps | I'm in there justingiboney |
| 22:18.04 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 22:18.10 | thebigdog | wait for the pics this week |
| 22:18.15 | mindjuju | heh |
| 22:18.24 | dataw0lf | ew |
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| 22:18.49 | dataw0lf | y'know, I know a couple good doctors that could remove that Apple hardware with a quick surgery |
| 22:18.49 | justingiboney | wps i know you are, but you are ine here also |
| 22:18.54 | wps | :) |
| 22:19.54 | _psychic_ | been a long time since BYUMUG.... |
| 22:20.03 | thebigdog | wps i got a co worker here to signed up on your graphic user group |
| 22:20.31 | wps | thebigdog: cool |
| 22:21.06 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, email was good |
| 22:21.11 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: danke |
| 22:21.32 | thebigdog | but gentoo rocks and does thebigdog |
| 22:21.44 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 22:21.51 | dataw0lf | gentoo does thebigdog? |
| 22:22.00 | dataw0lf | TMI, my friend. TMI. |
| 22:22.03 | justingiboney | no one likes me in the ruby channel =( |
| 22:22.05 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 22:22.22 | _psychic_ | there's not a rails channel? |
| 22:22.24 | thebigdog | justingiboney, you need to be in #python |
| 22:22.31 | thebigdog | ^5 dataw0lf |
| 22:22.40 | dataw0lf | ^5 |
| 22:23.53 | thebigdog | tab mix plus for FF rocks |
| 22:24.01 | thebigdog | and does thebigdog |
| 22:24.02 | thebigdog | eheh |
| 22:27.57 | justingiboney | Thank you people for being my friends, i have been on three different RoR channels and they have all ignored me =) |
| 22:28.32 | thebigdog | we love everyone here...even if you use mygsql ;) |
| 22:29.00 | justingiboney | lol |
| 22:29.09 | thebigdog | or start flame wars |
| 22:29.24 | thebigdog | cause macnewbold loves vim |
| 22:29.48 | thebigdog | oh wait that is fungus |
| 22:29.49 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:29.51 | olds | python or perl ? |
| 22:30.04 | thebigdog | peyons |
| 22:30.14 | thebigdog | that is the best |
| 22:31.06 | fungus | python, perl is dead (well... not quite dead, but terminally ill) |
| 22:31.16 | macnewbold | ~lart thebigdog |
| 22:31.16 | jbot | blasts thebigdog to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 22:31.20 | macnewbold | ~emacs++ |
| 22:31.34 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:31.50 | macnewbold | sup, dawg? we haven't talked much lately |
| 22:31.52 | thebigdog | sometimes i wonder if macnewbold even works |
| 22:31.55 | thebigdog | nope |
| 22:32.03 | thebigdog | que te pasa macnewbold |
| 22:32.10 | macnewbold | that's why we haven't talked much lately - I've been busy working |
| 22:32.27 | thebigdog | que bueno |
| 22:32.29 | macnewbold | Black_Chaos could vouch for me too |
| 22:32.35 | macnewbold | he's in the other room |
| 22:36.49 | wps | can anyone help point me to where my mysql log file might be? |
| 22:39.00 | dataw0lf | /var/log/mysqld.log or /var/log/mysql/mysqld.log ? |
| 22:39.23 | dataw0lf | just a guess, I use MySQL rarely. |
| 22:41.29 | pelaofeliz | wps: default is usually where dataw0lf said; if you look in your mysql config file (often /etc/my.cnf), it will tell you where it logs to |
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| 22:43.53 | fungus | wps: the error log is usually located inside the data directory. |
| 22:44.00 | fungus | Commonly located in /var/lib/mysql |
| 22:44.10 | fungus | it is usually named `hostname`.err |
| 22:46.47 | dataw0lf | try /usr/local/mysql/var |
| 22:50.30 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 22:50.31 | jbot | stuffs synic into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 23:09.18 | dataw0lf | ~rlart |
| 23:09.19 | jbot | executes killall -HUP justingiboney |
| 23:09.35 | dataw0lf | HUP is for weenies |
| 23:12.20 | justingiboney | ummm, should i be worried? |
| 23:13.04 | justingiboney | why is my computer freezing? |
| 23:13.12 | justingiboney | what... stop moving files around |
| 23:13.15 | dataw0lf | HAHA |
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| 23:19.27 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 23:20.08 | beandog | got a new tv. |
| 23:20.20 | mindjuju | what kind? |
| 23:20.29 | beandog | big one. |
| 23:20.30 | beandog | :) |
| 23:20.56 | beandog | sony 60" hdtv |
| 23:21.02 | beandog | 1080p (woots) |
| 23:21.15 | mindjuju | 60" ! zoinks! |
| 23:21.21 | beandog | I loves my movies. |
| 23:21.43 | mindjuju | course though, i bet my TV is better. It's a panasonic white plastic molded 20"! |
| 23:21.52 | beandog | heh |
| 23:22.00 | beandog | I love tiny TVs too |
| 23:22.11 | beandog | I love the old tube TVs (480i), they work great. |
| 23:22.38 | beandog | I only watch movies on my big screen, TV on my normal tubie. |
| 23:22.54 | mindjuju | i think dataw0lf has a killer TV |
| 23:22.57 | mindjuju | don't know the size though |
| 23:23.25 | beandog | mine is actually a bit too big |
| 23:23.30 | beandog | I'm still getting used to having it |
| 23:23.59 | beandog | whats up withchoo |
| 23:24.20 | mindjuju | was looking for a digital cable cap card |
| 23:24.28 | mindjuju | well, not now, but was last night |
| 23:24.37 | beandog | cable cap card? |
| 23:24.39 | beandog | whats that |
| 23:24.43 | beandog | those thigns you put in the tv boxes? |
| 23:24.46 | beandog | er, settop boxes? |
| 23:24.48 | beandog | oh |
| 23:24.50 | beandog | capture. |
| 23:24.51 | beandog | -_- |
| 23:24.53 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 23:24.57 | mindjuju | to make PVR |
| 23:25.06 | beandog | yah |
| 23:25.08 | dataw0lf | 56" |
| 23:25.08 | beandog | get PVR-500 |
| 23:25.09 | beandog | :) |
| 23:25.14 | dataw0lf | to answer your question, mindjuju |
| 23:25.23 | beandog | dataw0lf likes his TVs too |
| 23:25.27 | dataw0lf | heck yea |
| 23:25.35 | beandog | what kind is it? |
| 23:25.46 | dataw0lf | dang, I can't even remember |
| 23:25.52 | dataw0lf | 56" HD 1080p |
| 23:25.56 | mindjuju | course though, dataw0lf don't be watching much tv, i think he uses his so that he has a fighting chance in Halo |
| 23:25.57 | beandog | is it plasma? rear projection? |
| 23:25.59 | beandog | lcd? |
| 23:26.05 | dataw0lf | rear projection |
| 23:26.11 | beandog | there ya go |
| 23:26.14 | beandog | thats what I like. |
| 23:26.14 | dataw0lf | probably getting a plasma in May |
| 23:26.15 | beandog | :) |
| 23:26.23 | dataw0lf | when me and the gf move to SLC |
| 23:26.25 | beandog | I saw a 73" TV at Best Buy the other day |
| 23:26.29 | beandog | only $4k |
| 23:26.36 | beandog | ~spendie |
| 23:26.41 | beandog | dataw0lf, when you moving |
| 23:26.43 | dataw0lf | my dad said he saw a 50" plasma @ Costco for 1.5k~ |
| 23:26.59 | beandog | thats not too bad |
| 23:27.14 | dataw0lf | beandog: mid May |
| 23:27.24 | dataw0lf | looking for a job in SLC, so if you know of any, let me know |
| 23:27.34 | beandog | dataw0lf, doing what |
| 23:29.04 | dataw0lf | I'd vastly prefer, obviously, a Python-centric job |
| 23:29.10 | dataw0lf | but pretty much any software engineering or systems stuff |
| 23:29.17 | beandog | oh okay, so still programming then |
| 23:29.20 | beandog | no systems admin stuff? |
| 23:29.31 | dataw0lf | yea systems admin is cool |
| 23:46.52 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, you coming back to slc |
| 23:48.36 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: yup |
| 23:48.43 | thebigdog | nice |
| 23:48.56 | thebigdog | any reason for the movie...i thought you loved it out there |
| 23:49.33 | dataw0lf | no room for professional advancement for me or fiancee (soon to be wife) |
| 23:49.53 | thebigdog | so you are both moving back here? |
| 23:50.02 | dataw0lf | yup |
| 23:50.09 | thebigdog | i would think utah would be the place for no room |
| 23:50.22 | dataw0lf | sheesh, no way, Utah's tech job market is great comparatively. |
| 23:57.23 | macnewbold | ~lart Black_Chaos |
| 23:57.23 | jbot | stuffs Black_Chaos into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 23:57.36 | macnewbold | ~frenchassault Black_Chaos |
| 23:57.36 | jbot | ACTION summons the french taunter! Black_Chaos, I unclog my nose in your direction, sons of a window-dresser! I wave my private parts at your aunties, you heaving lot of second hand electric donkey bottom biters! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a! |
| 23:57.57 | mindjuju | did black_chaos foob ? |
| 23:58.33 | macnewbold | he made an unnice comment about FreeBSD |
| 23:58.47 | macnewbold | and rather than dignify it with a reply, I thought jbot would help retaliate |
| 23:58.49 | *** join/#uphpu justingiboney (n=justingi@71-36-77-213.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 23:59.03 | macnewbold | but it seems he isn't actually paying attention in here right now |
| 23:59.06 | macnewbold | a good thing I guess |
| 23:59.19 | SunSparc | What is the unnice comment about FreeBSD? |