| 00:00.16 | mindjuju | tierra, yeah, that's where I am |
| 00:00.18 | tierra | I don't honestly think I'm all that different from many people |
| 00:00.57 | mindjuju | but i'm using xbox media center to play the vids |
| 00:00.57 | mindjuju | i just need something to record the TV |
| 00:00.58 | mindjuju | and that knows what shows are when |
| 00:00.58 | thebigdog | i would not use myth with network though |
| 00:00.58 | thebigdog | unless i have a killer network |
| 00:00.58 | tierra | but MythTV development is always focused on the TV portion... i.e. tv cards, programming, recording, etc |
| 00:01.13 | mindjuju | yeah, that's what i need |
| 00:01.18 | mindjuju | record TV |
| 00:01.21 | tierra | the mythvideo portion of MythTV sucks in comarison |
| 00:01.35 | mindjuju | i think i'll stick wiht xbox playing back vid |
| 00:01.38 | tierra | (mythvideo is the browser for existing media) |
| 00:01.38 | herlo | tierra: in comparison to what? |
| 00:02.11 | mindjuju | but i hear sage is good too |
| 00:02.13 | tierra | browsing media in comparison with watching TV |
| 00:02.28 | tierra | Elisa is making some pretty cool progress |
| 00:02.34 | tierra | but it's very alpha stage still |
| 00:02.36 | herlo | mindjuju: I saw sageTV at CES a couple years back, based on linux and stuff |
| 00:03.04 | mindjuju | yup, sage is suppose to be v cool |
| 00:03.05 | tierra | I would _love_ to be able to run XBMC on my media box (linux) |
| 00:03.23 | tierra | but that's not going to be an option for at least another couple years from what I've seen |
| 00:03.23 | mindjuju | xbmc is the bomb |
| 00:03.35 | tierra | XBMC is the kind of media centers imho |
| 00:03.37 | mindjuju | i'm thinking of buying another 2 xboxes |
| 00:03.40 | tierra | s/kind/king |
| 00:03.54 | mindjuju | yes, fully functional |
| 00:03.59 | mindjuju | plays everything you can throw at it |
| 00:04.08 | mindjuju | flv, avi, mpg, mp3, you name it |
| 00:04.20 | tierra | except for most HD content :( |
| 00:04.42 | dataw0lf | that's why ya need the 360 :D |
| 00:04.47 | mindjuju | true that, but then, i'm not into seeing the hairs in gandolf's beard as much as having my entire DVD collection online |
| 00:04.47 | tierra | which is why I want it on my media box (with an Intel Core 2 Duo E6750) |
| 00:05.34 | tierra | they've been able to get XBMC to play some 720p content, but not H264, which is what much of my collection is |
| 00:06.05 | tierra | that's quite the achievement though |
| 00:06.19 | tierra | but yeah, it's limited, and it's only going to get worse |
| 00:06.43 | tierra | until they have a working release of xbmc-linux |
| 00:07.24 | tierra | dataw0lf: the 360 needs to get some more codec support :( |
| 00:07.45 | dataw0lf | tversity + the 360 I haven't run in a problem with any codecs |
| 00:07.47 | tierra | it's only worked for about 25% of what I've tried |
| 00:08.11 | tierra | yeah, I think brad downloaded a trial of that, and we were playing with it for a while |
| 00:08.12 | dataw0lf | s/in/into/ |
| 00:08.36 | tierra | oh, this is non-commercial |
| 00:09.01 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 00:09.22 | dataw0lf | I use it on my laptop to stream over wireless to the 360. No problems at all. I can actually put my laptop into sleep mode and it still works fine |
| 00:09.32 | tierra | though it's Windows-only :( |
| 00:09.38 | dataw0lf | yea. |
| 00:12.19 | SunSparc | Night all! |
| 00:28.51 | timinator | I'm out... later guys |
| 00:39.09 | PoeticIntensity | I'm using MythTV for my home-theater, and (although I'm not too picky) it does TV / videos just fine. |
| 00:39.24 | PoeticIntensity | I'm not thrilled with the music portion, but, I think the video viewer is just fine. |
| 00:39.47 | PoeticIntensity | it could use a lot of metadata improvements, but for my 150 video collection, it works great. |
| 00:40.43 | mindjuju | how does it do on recording TV shows? |
| 00:40.57 | mindjuju | where does it get show times, etc |
| 00:41.04 | PoeticIntensity | my wife uses it to record all her favorite shows. |
| 00:41.10 | PoeticIntensity | I get it from .... um..... |
| 00:41.19 | PoeticIntensity | used to be .... agh.... braincramp. |
| 00:41.49 | PoeticIntensity | there's a company (newly formed) which provides XML streams for $20.00 / year (probably will go down, too) |
| 00:42.08 | PoeticIntensity | I only have extreme-basic cable, though... |
| 00:42.08 | PoeticIntensity | so.. |
| 00:42.18 | PoeticIntensity | and I still don't know how it does HD channels... |
| 00:42.25 | PoeticIntensity | though I haven't looked into it much. |
| 00:42.39 | PoeticIntensity | they probably do it just fine, I just need to research. |
| 00:42.58 | PoeticIntensity | however.... to attest to the user-friendliness of the TV interface, my wife and my 4-year-old daughter can use it just fine. |
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| 00:43.08 | PoeticIntensity | my wife knows how to use the TV functions better than I do. |
| 00:43.23 | mindjuju | hmmm... i have wife usability concerns, that's good to know |
| 00:43.25 | mindjuju | beandog! |
| 00:43.35 | beandog | rawr |
| 00:43.47 | mindjuju | we were just talking about MythTV |
| 00:43.55 | beandog | oh? |
| 00:43.56 | mindjuju | do you have an opinion if good or bad |
| 00:44.00 | mindjuju | know something better? |
| 00:44.01 | beandog | Hmm. |
| 00:44.03 | beandog | Tivo :D |
| 00:44.07 | mindjuju | i want to record TV |
| 00:44.11 | mindjuju | yeah, but i want it on my SAN |
| 00:44.11 | beandog | I wuvs my Tivo. |
| 00:44.13 | beandog | Oh. |
| 00:44.17 | beandog | Whats a SAN |
| 00:44.24 | mindjuju | storage area network |
| 00:44.25 | dataw0lf | storage area network |
| 00:44.27 | beandog | oh. |
| 00:44.35 | beandog | well myth is about the only robust option there is. |
| 00:44.36 | mindjuju | i want to be able to play it on my computers or TVs, etc |
| 00:44.37 | dataw0lf | are you still using Gentoo beandog |
| 00:44.39 | beandog | so like it or lump it, there ya go. |
| 00:44.54 | beandog | theres freevo of course, but its a royal pita to setup. last I checked. |
| 00:45.17 | beandog | Do you want to record TV or host videos or both? |
| 00:48.17 | bradym | well there's a first.. a fellow developer got bent out of shape cause some code i wrote for logging puts it into a database table and not a flat file... |
| 00:48.35 | mindjuju | i want to record TV |
| 00:48.42 | mindjuju | i have a system to store and playback |
| 00:48.46 | mindjuju | using xbmc |
| 00:48.50 | dataw0lf | bradym: o_O |
| 00:49.15 | bradym | "there are already too many tables!" |
| 00:49.22 | dataw0lf | haha |
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| 00:49.46 | beandog | mindjuju: ok |
| 00:49.57 | beandog | mindjuju: do you have a free box to run myth on? |
| 00:50.05 | mindjuju | yup, can get one |
| 00:50.38 | beandog | mindjuju: what bout tv tuner |
| 00:51.07 | mindjuju | going to buy one |
| 00:51.14 | beandog | what are you gonna get |
| 00:51.34 | herlo | mindjuju: don't do it |
| 00:51.52 | herlo | downloading shows is the only way to go. Don't give in... |
| 00:51.57 | beandog | heh |
| 00:52.03 | herlo | or you can watch them at the websites |
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| 00:52.09 | dataw0lf | just download em |
| 00:52.17 | herlo | beandog: don't like that idea? |
| 00:52.29 | herlo | if he wants to own them, he could go buy dvds |
| 00:52.31 | beandog | I hate waiting, so you can guess how I feel about torrents |
| 00:52.44 | dataw0lf | hate waiting? they're up within minutes of the show being finished |
| 00:52.49 | herlo | beandog: torrents aren't slow |
| 00:52.53 | beandog | pfft. |
| 00:53.01 | beandog | If I have to wait more than 12 seconds, its slow. |
| 00:53.02 | mindjuju | i'd download them, but some of the shows that i need to get off PBS like fireman sam aren't torrents |
| 00:53.03 | herlo | beandog: it has to do with where you get them |
| 00:53.09 | dataw0lf | I download a HD one hour show in about 10 minutes |
| 00:53.09 | herlo | beandog: plus you have to watch commercials |
| 00:53.14 | herlo | me too |
| 00:53.19 | beandog | mythtv skips em automatically |
| 00:53.20 | beandog | :D |
| 00:53.23 | herlo | and I've downloaded entire seasons in a few hours |
| 00:53.27 | dataw0lf | yup |
| 00:53.28 | herlo | sometimes les |
| 00:53.39 | herlo | beandog: but that's after thefact |
| 00:53.42 | herlo | what's the diff |
| 00:53.57 | beandog | Ive switched to Tivo anyway. |
| 00:54.06 | dataw0lf | yea if you'd wait 20 minutes you could have it commercial free from the get go |
| 00:54.06 | herlo | downloading shows might only have encoding differences, but the quality is moot |
| 00:54.06 | beandog | so dont ask me. :) |
| 00:54.11 | herlo | beandog: yeah, saw that article |
| 00:54.16 | beandog | plus I have a LOT of DVds |
| 00:54.20 | beandog | I just buy waht I wanna watch. |
| 00:54.29 | herlo | beandog: right, I can respet that |
| 00:54.31 | herlo | respect |
| 00:54.32 | dataw0lf | I buy anything that deserves money |
| 00:54.34 | beandog | and record whatever I dont wanna keep |
| 00:54.55 | herlo | right |
| 00:54.56 | mindjuju | so we settled on Myth then? |
| 00:55.00 | herlo | you sound just like me |
| 00:55.03 | herlo | mindjuju: no |
| 00:55.05 | herlo | don't do it |
| 00:55.08 | herlo | hehe |
| 00:55.14 | beandog | mindjuju: sure |
| 00:55.15 | mindjuju | the shows i need don't have torrents |
| 00:55.17 | beandog | go for it |
| 00:55.27 | herlo | mindjuju: like? |
| 00:55.30 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: like what? |
| 00:55.33 | mindjuju | fireman sam |
| 00:55.41 | herlo | mindjuju: is that a kids show? |
| 00:55.41 | dataw0lf | I have a hard time believing you can't find a torrent for anything |
| 00:55.47 | mindjuju | dragontales |
| 00:55.51 | mindjuju | kids stuff |
| 00:55.55 | herlo | mindjuju: I know where to get that stuff |
| 00:55.57 | mindjuju | i don't usually get to watch much TV |
| 00:55.59 | beandog | ugh, dragontales. |
| 00:56.06 | mindjuju | yeah, Corban loves the stuff |
| 00:56.07 | dataw0lf | http://www.mininova.org/tor/66870 |
| 00:56.15 | herlo | mindjuju: I download kids stuff all the time for my son |
| 00:56.19 | herlo | dataw0lf: not a public torrent |
| 00:56.23 | herlo | bad dataw0lf |
| 00:56.32 | herlo | ~lesson dataw0lf |
| 00:56.43 | herlo | ~railgun dataw0lf |
| 00:56.44 | dataw0lf | herlo: please, I have two of the best secret torrent sites ever |
| 00:56.55 | dataw0lf | I'm just showing they're available |
| 00:57.12 | herlo | right, but you teach mindjuju bad habits |
| 00:57.50 | dataw0lf | herlo: depends on the secret torrent site, but my username usually isn't "dataw0lf" |
| 00:58.07 | dataw0lf | stderr, stdout, flex usually |
| 00:59.25 | dataw0lf | alright I'm headed home |
| 00:59.42 | herlo | dataw0lf: well, I've not hit power user on a couple so I can't search, but I'm usually some variation on my nick |
| 01:07.39 | beandog | ~love mindjuju |
| 01:07.40 | jbot | If you love mindjuju so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
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| 04:22.13 | bradym | anyone still around? |
| 04:32.46 | burnin | :) |
| 04:35.15 | bradym | done much with google maps? |
| 04:35.41 | bradym | trying to figure out if there's a way to let the rest of the page load and have the map load in the background.. or something.. ;) |
| 04:38.37 | burnin | other than look at them, no. |
| 04:39.06 | burnin | is the map an <embed> tag? |
| 04:39.12 | burnin | I've never looked at em. |
| 04:39.16 | burnin | the code that is |
| 04:39.27 | bradym | nope, its all javascript |
| 04:39.38 | bradym | and it's very slow.. |
| 04:39.48 | bradym | looking at yahoo maps to see if theirs is any better |
| 04:42.25 | herlo | bradym: its all ajax, both google and yahoo |
| 04:42.29 | burnin | not sure if it would work, but you could just a bit of ajax type code to load the map seperate from the rest of the page and load it into a div where the map goes. |
| 04:42.47 | burnin | but I'm not sure if it will still operate properly if you load it that way. |
| 04:42.48 | herlo | there's a whole google maps api |
| 04:43.28 | bradym | yeah, i've got maps built.. it's just taking forever to load them.. so trying to either find a way to speed it up, or find a speedier alternative |
| 04:43.39 | herlo | http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html |
| 04:44.25 | bradym | yeah, i've spent quite a bit of time there over the past couple days :) |
| 04:44.34 | herlo | okay |
| 04:44.41 | herlo | just thought I would try |
| 04:45.39 | bradym | i appreciate it |
| 04:46.17 | bradym | yahoo has some sample maps you can load, and they definitely show up quicker than any google map i've ever looked at |
| 04:48.07 | herlo | probably something to do with image size |
| 04:49.32 | bradym | interesting.. yahoo also has a flash option |
| 04:50.00 | herlo | ugh |
| 04:50.44 | burnin | lol |
| 04:52.06 | bradym | according to rasums: "Aside from portability and less DHTML browser quirks, it gives us widgets!" |
| 04:52.09 | bradym | http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/35-GeoCool!.html |
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| 15:48.25 | timinator | mawnin' guys |
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| 15:49.12 | jgiboney | Good Morning |
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| 16:03.07 | jgiboney | is there a way to make a form not reload a page? |
| 16:04.28 | mindjuju | jgiboney - two ways i can think of |
| 16:04.36 | mindjuju | AJAX and Ghetto AJAX |
| 16:04.53 | jgiboney | ya i am trying to do ajax but it reloads the page in firefox anyways |
| 16:05.10 | jgiboney | www.expresslanevideo.com click on the "need help" link |
| 16:05.11 | mindjuju | then let's do the ghetto style |
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| 16:06.20 | thebigdog | what a morning |
| 16:06.24 | mindjuju | <form name="form1" method="post" action="somepage.php" TARGET="formsubmit">blah blah blah</form> |
| 16:06.24 | mindjuju | <iframe name="formsubmit" src=""></iframe> |
| 16:06.42 | mindjuju | and then you hide the iframe either using CSS or frameborder |
| 16:07.17 | mindjuju | for those of you looking on, i know that code is way ghetto, but... |
| 16:08.29 | jgiboney | i'll work on that, thank you |
| 16:11.38 | mindjuju | jgiboney - you know, we prolly better set you up the right way and not use the ghetto unless absolutely necessary - what you trying to do? |
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| 16:11.58 | mgeary | mornin' |
| 16:12.06 | mindjuju | morning mgeary |
| 16:12.14 | jgiboney | i am trying to create a help desk type chat using ajax and a database |
| 16:14.08 | mindjuju | so can you pull data from the database using AJAX? |
| 16:14.28 | jgiboney | it works if you actually click on the send button |
| 16:15.13 | mindjuju | k, so you want it to send the client comment without them hitting send? |
| 16:15.17 | mindjuju | like as they type it? |
| 16:15.22 | jgiboney | no |
| 16:15.32 | jgiboney | if they hit the return key it refreshes |
| 16:15.51 | mindjuju | ohhh! |
| 16:15.54 | jgiboney | watch the session number |
| 16:16.37 | mindjuju | i'm just on your home page, where is the chat? |
| 16:17.28 | jgiboney | the need help link |
| 16:18.09 | mindjuju | jgiboney - here is what you need |
| 16:18.10 | mindjuju | http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/enter.html |
| 16:18.23 | mindjuju | it is a bit of JS to capture the client pressing the ENTER key |
| 16:18.36 | mindjuju | when enter, JS function fire, which will be your AJAX routine |
| 16:18.46 | jgiboney | thank you |
| 16:19.01 | jgiboney | now i need to figure out why it doesn't work in IE |
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| 16:49.14 | jgiboney | Show your Ruby |
| 16:54.06 | jgiboney | Object Oriented Databases sound really neat |
| 16:54.53 | SunSparc | jgiboney: I heard about those in college but never really go into them. |
| 16:55.09 | jgiboney | why? |
| 16:55.26 | SunSparc | Got too busy with other things. |
| 16:55.38 | SunSparc | Which DBMS's out their support it? |
| 16:55.38 | jgiboney | oh, so what about now? |
| 16:55.47 | jgiboney | db4o |
| 16:55.59 | jgiboney | ObjectStore |
| 16:56.03 | SunSparc | I think it would be fun to learn more about them |
| 16:56.13 | jgiboney | me too |
| 17:03.29 | SunSparc | The more I think about it, an object oriented database would be amazingly powerful and so much more configurable. |
| 17:03.36 | jgiboney | yes |
| 17:03.51 | SunSparc | It would be like moving from 2d to 3d. |
| 17:04.00 | jgiboney | exactly |
| 17:04.02 | SunSparc | A whole new world |
| 17:04.04 | SunSparc | Wow |
| 17:04.19 | jgiboney | yes, it seems really amazing |
| 17:04.22 | SunSparc | Why had it not caught on in the main stream yet? |
| 17:04.33 | SunSparc | s/had/has |
| 17:04.44 | jgiboney | because the training companies would have to go through to implement it |
| 17:05.03 | jgiboney | and most internet developers don't use OO anyways |
| 17:06.12 | jgiboney | supposedly it is harder to query multiple objects, like you can with a sql query |
| 17:06.54 | mgeary | SunSparc: moving from 2d to 3d is a tremendous jump in complexity ;) |
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| 17:07.22 | SunSparc | So true |
| 17:07.39 | SunSparc | More complex, but the power! |
| 17:08.09 | SunSparc | Perhaps nobody's has been able to come up with an implementation that is also fast. |
| 17:09.01 | SunSparc | I would imagine that all that power may come at a cot |
| 17:09.04 | SunSparc | cost |
| 17:10.05 | jgiboney | I understand that they are equivalent to relational |
| 17:10.15 | SunSparc | in speed? |
| 17:10.18 | SunSparc | That is good |
| 17:10.38 | jgiboney | in speed yes |
| 17:10.51 | jgiboney | although I haven't worked with any |
| 17:11.14 | jgiboney | although there is also less code involved |
| 17:12.38 | mgeary | hey, what's the irc for the Provo Linux group? |
| 17:12.45 | mgeary | there is one, yes? |
| 17:13.10 | jgiboney | yep |
| 17:13.16 | jgiboney | #utah i think |
| 17:13.28 | mgeary | k |
| 17:13.37 | mgeary | thought that was just #utah, not plug |
| 17:14.53 | SunSparc | Yes, it is #utah |
| 17:16.09 | SunSparc | Lists it on their main page http://www.plug.org/ |
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| 17:27.20 | SunSparc | jgiboney: Here is a list of some ODBMS's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object_database_management_systems |
| 17:27.47 | jgiboney | thank you |
| 17:28.00 | SunSparc | np |
| 17:28.22 | jgiboney | looks like we need to write a php end for one of them |
| 17:28.30 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:28.50 | SunSparc | Yeah, but which one is best, that is the tricky part. |
| 17:28.56 | jgiboney | ture |
| 17:28.59 | jgiboney | true |
| 17:29.40 | thebigdog | oh how i love eclipse |
| 17:29.55 | SunSparc | Yes, Eclipse is pretty sweet |
| 17:30.00 | olds | i hate the zend plugin for eclipse |
| 17:30.09 | olds | I love eclipse for java development |
| 17:30.11 | thebigdog | yeah it still needs a lot of work |
| 17:30.11 | olds | but that's about it |
| 17:30.19 | thebigdog | web dev rocks in it |
| 17:30.21 | olds | I use komodo for everything else |
| 17:30.27 | thebigdog | and python and ruby too |
| 17:30.37 | olds | yea, komodo is pretty good at those too :) |
| 17:30.50 | thebigdog | the new eclipse keybindings rock |
| 17:30.57 | thebigdog | element selections i love them |
| 17:33.11 | olds | from the little bit I've learned about OO DB systems in class from my db systems professor, she said that the OO DB systems are not nearly optomized to the same extent that RDBMSs are |
| 17:33.40 | olds | and that besides a few specialized applications, they're usually not worth the investment in time/architecture |
| 17:33.42 | jgiboney | I definitly want to learn more about them |
| 17:33.57 | jgiboney | the US army uses Cache i think |
| 17:35.13 | thebigdog | olds, fyi...pgsql has object support too |
| 17:35.30 | thebigdog | as does oracle |
| 17:35.40 | thebigdog | another reason i love psql |
| 17:37.20 | olds | sort of |
| 17:37.28 | thebigdog | its not fully |
| 17:37.34 | olds | it's pretty limited iirc |
| 17:48.47 | dataw0lf | OO DB systems -- meh |
| 17:48.58 | dataw0lf | olds: Have you read "ORM is the Vietnam of Software Engineering" ? |
| 17:49.54 | dataw0lf | http://blogs.tedneward.com/2006/06/26/The+Vietnam+Of+Computer+Science.aspx |
| 17:50.02 | dataw0lf | of Computer Science, dur |
| 17:50.47 | olds | nope |
| 17:52.00 | olds | yea |
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| 17:55.44 | beandog | ~pooped beandog |
| 18:00.24 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, that is a pretty good article |
| 18:00.58 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: yea, it's decent |
| 18:02.13 | thebigdog | one thing that helps me in that battle is to use views more for the mapping |
| 18:02.21 | thebigdog | then i get the best of both |
| 18:02.34 | thebigdog | but there are still many limitations |
| 18:09.08 | brasto | anyone recall how to enable selinux on rh? |
| 18:18.33 | dataw0lf | brasto: setenforce |
| 18:19.10 | dataw0lf | and for boot time adjustments, I think it's system-config-securitylevel |
| 18:19.10 | brasto | dataw0lf: that's an entry in a config file, but I forget where... |
| 18:19.37 | dataw0lf | /etc/sysconfig/selinux ? |
| 18:19.45 | dataw0lf | use system-config-securitylevel |
| 18:19.51 | dataw0lf | rather than the config file |
| 18:20.10 | beandog | http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/hawkshaw-ice/ |
| 18:20.14 | beandog | very nice |
| 18:21.07 | mindjuju | hey beandog |
| 18:21.43 | mindjuju | i think you posted a URL a while back of a lady singing, i think it might have been on the same site as this one you just posted, where she's singing in Arabic or maybe Hindi |
| 18:21.51 | mindjuju | was it you that posted it, and if so can you repost? |
| 18:22.00 | beandog | beth quist? |
| 18:22.05 | mindjuju | maybe |
| 18:22.10 | mindjuju | can you repost? |
| 18:22.18 | mindjuju | twas good |
| 18:22.22 | beandog | sec |
| 18:23.46 | brasto | cool, tx dataw0lf |
| 18:25.13 | brasto | dataw0lf: I ran that util you recommended, and I checked the "Enabled" box for SELinux. Do I also check "Enforcing"? |
| 18:26.15 | beandog | http://magnatune.com/artists/beth_quist |
| 18:26.15 | dataw0lf | yes |
| 18:26.17 | beandog | mindjuju, ^^ |
| 18:26.25 | beandog | mindjuju, I have the Silver album |
| 18:27.03 | mindjuju | yeah, it was the silver one |
| 18:27.21 | SunSparc | Has anyone here ever used either of these shopping carts: OpenCart, Magento |
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| 18:58.22 | thebigdog | oh its lunch time |
| 18:58.26 | thebigdog | herlo where you at today? |
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| 19:06.12 | herlo | thebigdog: vegas |
| 19:06.19 | thebigdog | oh man |
| 19:06.27 | thebigdog | chipolette's is calling |
| 19:06.33 | herlo | sucks because I feel ill |
| 19:06.43 | herlo | thebigdog: they have chipotle here too |
| 19:06.53 | thebigdog | haha |
| 19:07.23 | herlo | drive down |
| 19:08.14 | thebigdog | i wish |
| 19:08.20 | thebigdog | its snowing again here |
| 19:11.01 | herlo | geez |
| 19:11.14 | herlo | I guess I am glad to be in Vegas |
| 19:11.25 | herlo | 55 degrees and sunny today |
| 19:11.30 | herlo | even though I don't get to see it |
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| 21:49.02 | josephscott_lap | ping mindjuju |
| 21:50.22 | mindjuju | pong josephscott_lap |
| 21:50.32 | mindjuju | what you up to? |
| 21:50.46 | josephscott_lap | trying to find the url for the slc database group you found |
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| 21:51.07 | josephscott_lap | and tracking down a bug report for wordpress-mu |
| 21:51.21 | mindjuju | oh no, here is swb |
| 21:51.26 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:51.29 | swb | :) |
| 21:52.57 | swb | so, I am going to add a webmaster job to the uphpu.org employment page, do you think it's bad to put accepting requirements for the salary? |
| 21:54.12 | mindjuju | i would think it'd be fair, if you felt like they would be flexible |
| 21:55.05 | swb | I guess it's a unique situation since I'm posting the job for my own replacement and I don't know what the exact salary limit will be ;) |
| 21:57.18 | influx^^_ | Movin' on up? |
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| 21:57.40 | swb | new job, new company |
| 21:57.55 | swb | would love to hav a replacement come in before I leave my current job though |
| 21:58.03 | influx^^ | Where is this? |
| 21:58.16 | swb | Myriad Genetics |
| 21:58.24 | influx^^ | Aye. |
| 21:58.46 | PoeticIntensity | so... did ya take the new job, swb ? |
| 21:58.52 | PoeticIntensity | (I haven't read any of the back log) |
| 21:59.09 | swb | I did! |
| 21:59.13 | PoeticIntensity | AWESOME! |
| 21:59.18 | swb | thanks!!! |
| 21:59.21 | PoeticIntensity | congratulations! |
| 21:59.36 | swb | I'm pretty excited about it |
| 21:59.45 | PoeticIntensity | that's just cool.... |
| 21:59.47 | PoeticIntensity | I'm happy for ya! |
| 21:59.59 | swb | HUGE change for me though, I've had 7+ years at Myriad! |
| 22:01.58 | SunSparc | Wow, 7 years at one company! Amazing. |
| 22:02.10 | swb | heh |
| 22:02.18 | swb | it's a really good company |
| 22:06.49 | bradym | congrats swb! :) |
| 22:06.51 | bradym | What's the new job? |
| 22:10.31 | swb | Pictureline |
| 22:10.33 | swb | :) |
| 22:14.57 | mindjuju | josephscott_lap - still looking for that in my browser history |
| 22:15.07 | mindjuju | i should have written it down |
| 22:15.08 | josephscott_lap | k |
| 22:15.09 | influx^^ | ^_^ |
| 22:15.26 | influx^^ | I think there's a pictureline down the street from me. |
| 22:15.36 | influx^^ | On about 7th south and 3rd west |
| 22:15.44 | swb | exactly |
| 22:15.51 | influx^^ | Rad. :D |
| 22:15.55 | influx^^ | Congratulations! |
| 22:16.02 | swb | u into photography? |
| 22:16.08 | influx^^ | Yes'm. |
| 22:16.18 | influx^^ | I think I have you on my list on my flickr. |
| 22:16.48 | swb | possibly, but I have mostly cell phone pics on flickr, oh yeah, there are geek lunch pictures |
| 22:20.19 | influx^^ | Here's one of my favorites: http://tinyurl.com/2upend |
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| 22:21.54 | swb | favorite flickr photo? |
| 22:22.01 | influx^^ | That I've shot. |
| 22:22.20 | swb | ah, cool |
| 22:22.22 | influx^^ | I have others that look a little better, but I like that I caught what happened. |
| 22:22.46 | swb | yeah, that guy looks like he is about to have a headache |
| 22:26.08 | orsonj | hmmm... I've got a little over 4 years at my current job. not too shabby. |
| 22:26.29 | swb | pretty good, can't beat 7 1/2 though! |
| 22:26.50 | influx^^ | Heh. |
| 22:26.56 | orsonj | not yet. probably won't with this job either. |
| 22:27.12 | mindjuju | that's why swb be the webmistress, kicker of butts and code poet |
| 22:27.56 | swb | orsonj, that means you're looking for a new job? |
| 22:28.42 | orsonj | not actively, but keeping an eye out. |
| 22:30.46 | orsonj | I've got a little one on the way, and depending on whether I can afford insurance without changing jobs, I might have to switch jobs. |
| 22:31.17 | fungus | W00t congrats swb |
| 22:31.24 | swb | thanks fungus!!! |
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| 22:34.23 | mindjuju | there goes the neighborhood, utah_dave is here |
| 22:34.32 | Utah_Dave | he he |
| 22:34.38 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 22:34.38 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 22:34.47 | Utah_Dave | how's it going, mindjuju? |
| 22:34.54 | mindjuju | kickin' it -- keeping it real |
| 22:34.56 | mindjuju | u? |
| 22:35.19 | Utah_Dave | good. Just got back to my hotel. |
| 22:35.23 | Utah_Dave | time to chill |
| 22:37.09 | mindjuju | nice! put them dawgs up and order in some pizza action -- i can dig it |
| 22:37.12 | mindjuju | where are you |
| 22:39.02 | Utah_Dave | pittsburgh |
| 22:39.23 | Utah_Dave | Actually, I bought a mini-DiGiorno's pizza. Just pulled it out of the oven! |
| 22:41.47 | SunSparc | It's not delivery? |
| 22:42.13 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 22:45.47 | bradym | i'm using the yui fonts css ( http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/fonts/ ) and this line doesn't validate: font: 13px/1.22 arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; -- anyone know what the "13px/1.22" is supposed to do? |
| 22:46.13 | swb | sets the font size and line height |
| 22:46.55 | swb | could also be tied into an em-based layout using one of the other yui css pages (not sure) |
| 22:47.14 | bradym | so it'd be the same as doing: font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.22; |
| 22:47.14 | bradym | ? |
| 22:47.24 | swb | yep |
| 22:47.45 | bradym | k - thx |
| 22:47.49 | bradym | never seen it like that before |
| 22:48.03 | swb | it's a shortcut way of writing it |
| 22:49.20 | Utah_Dave | hey, aren't the job offers going to the UPHPU list supposed to have a salary range? |
| 22:49.28 | swb | bah |
| 22:49.43 | beandog | if it doesnt have a salary listed, then that means you don't want to know how low it is. |
| 22:49.53 | swb | no, no |
| 22:50.44 | swb | k, in this case, I posted the Myriad without the salary listing because I'm posting it early to see if anyone's interested, and I don't know what salary will be approved yet |
| 22:51.31 | Utah_Dave | I see |
| 22:52.25 | swb | anyway, if you are interested, you can get in touch with me and I could probably give you enough details to be helpful |
| 22:56.51 | swb | definitely email me if you have any questions about the job :) |
| 23:21.18 | olds_ | names |
| 23:21.32 | olds_ | wrong window :) |
| 23:21.45 | SunSparc | places |
| 23:24.27 | orsonj | anyone know of anything else like flickr's photo map thing ( http://www.flickr.com/map/ ) |
| 23:27.17 | orsonj | I once saw one that used google maps, but I don't remember where. |
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| 23:36.41 | thebigdog | swb is there a japanese girl that is a developer there? |
| 23:39.06 | thebigdog | orsonj, you can create you own with openlayers |
| 23:39.44 | thebigdog | i created one at my last job |
| 23:54.02 | SunSparc | thebigdog: You created your own Japanese girl at your last job? |
| 23:54.42 | thebigdog | SunSparc, you missed that |
| 23:54.54 | thebigdog | i told orsonj i created one with openlayers |
| 23:54.57 | thebigdog | not swb |
| 23:55.18 | mindjuju | that was pretty funny |
| 23:55.29 | thebigdog | i wish i could though |
| 23:55.31 | thebigdog | ;) |
| 23:55.39 | thebigdog | any mac users using iwork 08? |
| 23:55.39 | SunSparc | thebigdog: :) I know, just mixing conversation |
| 23:55.49 | SunSparc | thebigdog: I use iWork 08 |
| 23:56.06 | thebigdog | can you export to html? |
| 23:57.09 | thebigdog | im just wondering if i can use it to create some items and then export it to html |
| 23:57.20 | SunSparc | You can "Send to iWeb" as a PDF or Pages document but there is not Export option for HTML |
| 23:57.58 | thebigdog | ok so iweb can then make it html |
| 23:58.18 | SunSparc | I assume so. I have not played with iWeb much. |
| 23:58.23 | thebigdog | k |
| 23:58.51 | SunSparc | Unless it is just embedding the documents into a web page. |
| 23:59.00 | thebigdog | no |
| 23:59.07 | SunSparc | I don't have iWeb 08 yet. |
| 23:59.09 | thebigdog | ~whaleslap SunSparc |
| 23:59.09 | jbot | ACTION beats SunSparc upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 23:59.11 | thebigdog | oh |
| 23:59.26 | SunSparc | Thanks for the whaleslap. |
| 23:59.27 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:59.42 | SunSparc | ~boottothehead thebigdog |