| 00:00.39 | dataw0lf | other than manually assigning the attributes of stdClass to your own class? No, I don't think so. |
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| 00:01.23 | pelaofeliz | k, thx |
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| 00:10.48 | SunSparc | Night all!! |
| 00:11.35 | PoeticIntensity | man... what would we all do if the majority of the politicians were actually sort of honest....? |
| 00:12.33 | timinator | I'm out guys.... later all |
| 00:13.06 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: use the dimensional travel device to get back home |
| 00:13.17 | PoeticIntensity | can I use yours? |
| 00:13.25 | PoeticIntensity | mine is all worn out... :) |
| 00:13.51 | dataw0lf | sorry, currently using mine to travel to the dimension where the women never learned to wear clothes |
| 00:14.54 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
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| 01:13.43 | mindjuju | i know this is a long shot, but anybody know any remote IT software that is open source? |
| 01:13.52 | mgeary | VNC? |
| 01:14.08 | mindjuju | i was thinking VNC, but doesn't the host need a public IP? |
| 01:14.09 | mgeary | SSH? |
| 01:14.16 | mindjuju | it's a win xp box |
| 01:14.32 | mgeary | you could set up an ssh tunnel |
| 01:14.35 | mgeary | and then VNC to that |
| 01:14.51 | mindjuju | wouldn't ssh require a public IP? |
| 01:15.03 | mgeary | well, there has to be a gateway machine |
| 01:15.16 | mgeary | when i'm at home and need to connect to my work machine |
| 01:15.40 | mgeary | i ssh into our gateway machine (has both internal & external IPs), and from there i go into my desk machine |
| 01:15.57 | mgeary | alternatively, i set up an ssh tunnel via our gateway machine to my desk machine |
| 01:16.05 | mgeary | and then vnc to 127.0.0.1 on the port specified |
| 01:16.27 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 01:16.35 | mgeary | what's a little trickier is having the remote machine initiate the tunnel, but that's do-able as well |
| 01:16.37 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: copilot is free on the weekends |
| 01:17.19 | mindjuju | ah! that's actually the software i was trying to remember |
| 01:17.28 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: also, I've been meaning to try this out, but haven't yet |
| 01:17.28 | Utah_Dave | http://www.uvnc.com/pchelpware/index.html |
| 01:17.29 | mindjuju | for copilot |
| 01:17.34 | Utah_Dave | It looks really cool |
| 01:19.25 | mindjuju | that second one looks really cool |
| 01:20.50 | Utah_Dave | or this one: http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html |
| 01:27.11 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: l'd be interesting to know what worked out best for you |
| 01:34.34 | mgeary | hey all, is it kosher to put a stylesheet <link> in an html email? do they generally get parsed? |
| 01:34.50 | mgeary | or is it better to put the styles in an embedded <style> tag? |
| 01:35.45 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: I think you have to embed it with html mail. I did some research on that a while back and I think that's what I learned |
| 01:35.57 | mgeary | yeah, that's what i'm guessing as well |
| 01:35.59 | mgeary | bummer |
| 01:36.04 | Utah_Dave | but somebody else might be able to give a better answer |
| 01:43.26 | mindjuju | sorry, was on the phone |
| 01:43.40 | mindjuju | CSS rarely works for me in HTML emails |
| 01:43.43 | mindjuju | and we send out a ton |
| 01:43.57 | mindjuju | i've had significantly better results with... |
| 01:44.06 | mindjuju | <whisper>tables</whisper> |
| 01:44.13 | mindjuju | nothing too complex! |
| 01:44.18 | mindjuju | outlook foobs most HTML |
| 01:44.25 | mgeary | heh, yeah |
| 01:54.35 | bradym | yeah, tables + inline css is definitely the way to go for email |
| 01:54.58 | mgeary | tho it seems a bit silly that you can use remote images and not remote css |
| 01:55.05 | mgeary | or even a <base href> tag |
| 02:07.38 | mgeary | hey |
| 02:07.48 | mgeary | can you few who remain help me load test something? |
| 02:08.11 | mgeary | anyone? anyone? |
| 02:08.36 | Utah_Dave | sure |
| 02:08.43 | mgeary | k, one sec |
| 02:08.49 | mgeary | trying to get a few more ppl |
| 02:13.01 | mgeary | dang. gotta do some things to let non-auth'd users in |
| 02:14.19 | mgeary | ok |
| 02:14.26 | mgeary | http://dev.richlifeclub.com/_122123/index.php |
| 02:14.50 | mgeary | hit that and start posting messages |
| 02:15.00 | mgeary | k? |
| 02:18.46 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: you still around? |
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| 02:19.44 | bradym | so is the only reason you don't want to use IRC so you can better control who can login? |
| 02:19.51 | mgeary | no |
| 02:19.54 | mgeary | heaps of reasons |
| 02:20.00 | bradym | k - just checking :) |
| 02:20.14 | mgeary | what i was trying to say in the room was that i didn't want to hit #linux and just invite the world |
| 02:20.19 | mgeary | but it stripped out my # |
| 02:20.21 | mgeary | :) |
| 02:20.32 | mgeary | just used it as the beginning of a comment |
| 02:20.34 | mgeary | which is weird |
| 02:20.43 | mgeary | i assume that's what it did |
| 02:20.46 | mgeary | hrm |
| 02:20.56 | mgeary | no, that's not it, cause it's not running that through the php parser |
| 02:22.26 | bradym | what's the goal here? moderated chat? |
| 02:24.26 | mgeary | also, yes |
| 02:25.03 | mgeary | gotta head out. later folks |
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| 03:04.11 | beandog | herlo: pingie |
| 03:04.18 | herlo | beandog: pong |
| 03:04.24 | beandog | herlo: you in LA now? |
| 03:04.31 | herlo | no, vegas |
| 03:05.40 | beandog | oh |
| 03:05.43 | beandog | when are you flying out? |
| 03:06.06 | herlo | friday afternoon |
| 03:06.11 | herlo | 4pm, arrive at 5 |
| 03:06.22 | herlo | ish |
| 03:07.47 | beandog | oh |
| 03:07.48 | beandog | lates. |
| 03:35.50 | herlo | ciao |
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| 15:12.18 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I'm being forced to brush up on VB to write some macros in Word. ugh. |
| 15:13.22 | jgiboney | Any amount of knowledge that you obtain, makes you more valuable |
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| 15:56.14 | herlo | jgiboney: that's not true, especially for such a vile language as VB |
| 16:01.24 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 16:01.25 | jbot | send killer squirrels to attack jsmith-away |
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| 16:02.17 | jgiboney | If you never touch VB how would you know why it is bad? |
| 16:02.32 | jgiboney | How would you be able to explain to somebody why it is bad? |
| 16:02.42 | mindjuju | how do you know he hasn't touched it? |
| 16:02.58 | jgiboney | I don't |
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| 16:03.14 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 16:03.35 | mindjuju | so, out of curiosity, do you know vb? |
| 16:03.41 | jgiboney | I am not saying VB is good or bad, i was just saying that experience is useful for anyone |
| 16:04.08 | jgiboney | i know a little VB |
| 16:05.01 | mindjuju | do you like it? |
| 16:05.33 | jgiboney | I don't know enough about it. |
| 16:06.10 | mindjuju | just curious |
| 16:06.29 | mindjuju | I know it will prolly scare many people here, but I wrote classic ASP pages for a couple of years |
| 16:06.42 | mindjuju | true, ASP uses a subset of VB, but, its |
| 16:06.44 | mindjuju | VB |
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| 16:06.57 | jgiboney | And that is where I have done my VB also |
| 16:07.29 | mindjuju | so, I can understand Utah_Dave's frustration in having to learn VBA, also a subset |
| 16:07.56 | jgiboney | I just try not to limit myself to any one brand or language, so that I can be more available to more jobs and useful to more people |
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| 16:16.57 | mindjuju | sounds good, send over some SunSparc |
| 16:17.12 | mindjuju | oh hey, I have some Stephen's in my office! |
| 16:17.16 | mindjuju | just forgot about it |
| 16:17.16 | _psychic_ | tha intarwebs are tubes - put sum in thar, SunSparc |
| 16:17.24 | SunSparc | mindjuju: It is in the break room, help yourself. :) |
| 16:18.06 | mindjuju | you know, I think we should start a new IRC channel called #uphpu-FightClub |
| 16:18.18 | SunSparc | ? |
| 16:18.18 | mindjuju | so we can talk about super tuesday |
| 16:18.21 | SunSparc | For arguing? |
| 16:18.23 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:18.25 | SunSparc | Oh hehe |
| 16:18.28 | jgiboney | for flamewars!!! |
| 16:18.38 | mindjuju | except i don't have much time for argument today, but I think it'd be fun |
| 16:18.56 | SunSparc | "Super" is an interesting adjective to add to what yesterday was. |
| 16:18.56 | jgiboney | of course you have time =) |
| 16:19.00 | mindjuju | and interested to see how people reacted to super tuesday and next year's election |
| 16:19.03 | _psychic_ | naw we always fight right in here anyways |
| 16:19.14 | _psychic_ | it's not like people ever ask PHP questions in here. :) |
| 16:19.14 | herlo | mindjuju: there are *no* circumstances where VB isn't vile IMO |
| 16:19.48 | mindjuju | oh i don't know, we get the occasional PHP question |
| 16:20.14 | mindjuju | #uphpu is a one stop shop for all things technical |
| 16:20.19 | SunSparc | PHP? What's that? |
| 16:20.21 | timinator | mawnin' |
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| 16:21.40 | jgiboney | I know one |
| 16:21.51 | jgiboney | i makes PHP look great! |
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| 16:22.09 | herlo | hehe |
| 16:22.20 | herlo | jgiboney: right on |
| 16:22.21 | _psychic_ | this rox: http://www.opencalais.com/ |
| 16:22.36 | SunSparc | jgiboney: exactly! |
| 16:25.19 | timinator | anyone know how to properly build a Mac and/or Windows Screensaver? |
| 16:25.39 | mgeary | timinator: easiest way is with ScreenTime & Flash |
| 16:26.11 | timinator | I have Flash ....researching ScreenTime |
| 16:26.23 | mgeary | i'm not aware of any other way to write once & deploy on both platforms |
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| 16:27.49 | mindjuju | hey mgeary, I have a brother in law that might be interested in your position, do you have it written up somewheres? |
| 16:28.05 | mgeary | not really |
| 16:28.51 | mgeary | basically we're just looking for someone smart, willing to *work*, who's got some PHP+OOP experience. Flash would be a great bonus |
| 16:29.39 | mgeary | but as our budget is in the $40k to $50k range, we're expecting to attract entry-to-mid level people |
| 16:29.51 | mindjuju | was that "forum boy"? |
| 16:30.01 | mgeary | ? |
| 16:30.17 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Yeah, that looks like a pretty sweet tool. |
| 16:30.21 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I'm not real familiar with VB, but it doesn't matter. I just have to make it work |
| 16:30.22 | mindjuju | that dude that was admining a forum that you were starting to do the firewall for |
| 16:34.14 | mgeary | oh |
| 16:34.22 | mgeary | no, forum boy is still with us |
| 16:34.27 | mgeary | we've got more work |
| 16:34.31 | mgeary | need more workers |
| 16:34.53 | mgeary | mindjuju: wanna pm me some details on your BIL? |
| 16:35.17 | mindjuju | congrats on business doing well! |
| 16:35.28 | mgeary | thanks. it's been just raining work lately |
| 16:35.32 | mgeary | or snowing, i suppose |
| 16:35.38 | mindjuju | yup, hang on quick sec |
| 16:53.33 | mgeary | that's a looong sec |
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| 17:24.44 | mgeary | you are? |
| 17:26.02 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 17:29.03 | SunSparc | Here is a joke a friend of mine sent me yesterday: One day, Jesus said to his disciples: "The Kingdom of Heaven is like unto 3x squared plus 8x minus 9." Thomas looked confused and asked Peter, 'What does the Teacher mean?" Peter replied, "Don't worry. He's just speaking in parabolas again |
| 17:37.42 | timinator | the joke's not funny if you have to use a dictionary :) |
| 17:38.48 | mgeary | nah, he's speaking in quadratic equations |
| 17:38.54 | mgeary | but that doesn't sound as good |
| 17:39.08 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:39.27 | mgeary | 'course, parabolas *are* described by quadratic equations, so i guess it does work |
| 17:40.03 | SunSparc | Ok, who can be the first to simplify that equation? |
| 17:42.54 | PoeticIntensity | ssssssssss....ssss.sssssimplify...... |
| 17:43.18 | SunSparc | hehe |
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| 18:21.27 | wps | anyone good with apache rewrites? |
| 18:21.38 | wps | I have a hairy one |
| 18:21.43 | wps | that has me stumped |
| 18:22.01 | SunSparc | wps: What are you trying to do? |
| 18:22.09 | wps | I need to redirect… |
| 18:22.24 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.27 | wps | …to… |
| 18:23.10 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.24 | SunSparc | So you just want to grab vars off the incoming url and put them elsewhere |
| 18:24.34 | _psychic_ | yeah but you're creating var names on the fly |
| 18:24.46 | _psychic_ | not sure rewrite will do that, but I dunno |
| 18:24.54 | SunSparc | Cake does something like that |
| 18:25.21 | wps | partly, yes, SunSparc |
| 18:25.32 | _psychic_ | it does, but it uses PHP to hand the data around |
| 18:25.37 | wps | in the first URL they aren't key/value pairs |
| 18:25.45 | _psychic_ | you might forward anything to a script which splits things apart like you want |
| 18:25.56 | wps | it's just the values separated by slashes |
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| 18:27.20 | Trevy1 | is the job board the best way to look for freelancers? Or can you use this room? |
| 18:27.30 | SunSparc | _psychic_: yeah, you are right (of course), the php takes care of most of it. |
| 18:27.31 | wps | you can ask in here |
| 18:27.46 | SunSparc | Trevy1: Both, and also the list |
| 18:29.42 | wps | will this work? |
| 18:29.43 | wps | #RewriteRule ^modules/videoplayer/?$1/$2 /modules/vieoplayer/?type=$1&id=$2 [NC,QSA,L] |
| 18:33.29 | SunSparc | In the pattern you cannot use the $1 syntax because it would be looking for regex there and those would be interpreted as such |
| 18:33.55 | SunSparc | iirc |
| 18:34.29 | Trevy1 | Im looking for people who freelance alot, and are online durring the day. if so, email me, trevyn@esourcehome.com |
| 18:34.56 | Trevy1 | I like to pay under 40 an hour, or I can pay more if your fast. |
| 18:35.07 | Trevy1 | small projects at a time. |
| 18:35.44 | _psychic_ | Trevy1: what kind of work for what kind of company/ies ? |
| 18:36.03 | Trevy1 | PHP / JS, and sometimes the client is me. |
| 18:36.11 | Trevy1 | I have a client called mightyauthors. |
| 18:36.18 | Trevy1 | needs a revamp of an image cropper |
| 18:36.19 | SunSparc | wps: Look at the "RewriteRule Directive" section here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html |
| 18:36.25 | SunSparc | It has some good info |
| 18:36.30 | Trevy1 | I have some tools id like to build |
| 18:36.46 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.16 | SunSparc | wps: np, that is still something I am trying to master also. |
| 18:37.42 | Trevy1 | My new model in contracting is this: I dont mind refering a contractor to work directly with my client, as long as the contractor and I are on the same page, and agree with what is sold ect. |
| 18:38.11 | _psychic_ | Trevy1: image cropper might be better in Flash, depending |
| 18:38.49 | Trevy1 | yeah, I know, except I dont want to invest in flash. FLEX im still ont he fence. |
| 18:39.00 | Trevy1 | plus this image cropper needs to preserve a set aspect ratio. |
| 18:39.49 | SunSparc | wps: look also into using RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} |
| 18:39.59 | SunSparc | Before your RewriteRule |
| 18:41.33 | SunSparc | Oh, and they may or may not be helpful over at #apache |
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| 19:11.24 | bradym | wps: try this: RewriteRule ^modules/videoplayer/?([A-Za-z0-9]+)/([A-Za-z0-9]+)$ /modules/videoplayer/?type=$1&id=$2 [NC,QSA,L] |
| 19:12.05 | bradym | depending on your possible URL, the matching pattern can be modified - probably just need [0-9]+ on the second one, assuming you've got numeric ids |
| 19:12.51 | wps | I think that the reason that this isn't working is because the slash in "?webinar/19" isn't a directory |
| 19:13.02 | wps | and it considers "webinar/19" to be a string |
| 19:13.13 | wps | and it considers it to be a key |
| 19:13.21 | wps | I need to split that into two and use the keys as values |
| 19:14.06 | wps | s/keys/key parts/ |
| 19:14.57 | bradym | never done it, but you might be able to do something like that using QUERY_STRING - that or pass everything to a php file that then handles the redirects.. if you go that route you'll definitely want to use a RewriteCond to send only the necessary requests to the php file |
| 19:23.59 | burnin | what are you two making? |
| 19:24.47 | mindjuju | burnin - |
| 19:24.48 | mindjuju | (11:22:17 AM) wps: I need to redirect… |
| 19:24.48 | mindjuju | (11:22:32 AM) wps: /some/path/?var1/var2 |
| 19:24.49 | mindjuju | (11:22:35 AM) wps: …to… |
| 19:24.49 | mindjuju | (11:23:18 AM) wps: /some/path/?key1=var1&key2=var2 |
| 19:24.50 | burnin | trying to make easily formed URLs and then rewrite them to grab the right page? |
| 19:24.54 | burnin | ah |
| 19:25.56 | burnin | is it a must to rewrite? I mean, are you sending it on to some other code that requires it to be in the standard key=var& format? |
| 19:26.14 | mindjuju | wps likes the sexy URLs |
| 19:26.34 | burnin | curious because I have something very simple that uses index.php/var1/var2/var3 |
| 19:26.35 | mindjuju | i must admit, if he pulls this off, i'm v interested to see how |
| 19:26.43 | burnin | suppose I could use rewrite to get rid of the index.php |
| 19:26.53 | burnin | http://mvcbasic.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mvcbasic/mvcbasic/index.php?view=markup |
| 19:27.47 | burnin | prior to the __construct() I pull out the passed variables, then in the __construct I turn them into an array of arguments for use in the framework. |
| 19:27.52 | mindjuju | plus, i bet he gets a + on SEO passing his vars that way |
| 19:28.13 | burnin | MVCPASSED is defined to hold all the arguments as passed in the URL. |
| 19:29.01 | burnin | then the class constructor breaks apart the MVCPASSED into the various arguments for use in the app. |
| 19:31.23 | burnin | http://burnin.chaogenus.org/release/mvcbasic/index.php/sumcontroller/index/9/24/86 |
| 19:31.53 | burnin | that is a working example, the three values after the index variable are summed together by the index function. |
| 19:32.18 | burnin | not sure if that helps, but it sounded like it was similar to what you were talking about. |
| 19:32.45 | bradym | yeah, that's similar to what codeigniter does |
| 19:34.35 | burnin | yeah, ci and cakephp |
| 19:35.08 | burnin | that is where I borrowed the idea, after utah dave suggested looking at ci. |
| 19:35.19 | burnin | they do purty urls |
| 19:35.48 | bradym | yup.. i'm just finishing my first big project in ci, must say i'm a fan :) |
| 19:36.17 | burnin | I didn't care much for cakephp, but ci is very nice. |
| 19:37.10 | bradym | i've read through the cake manuals a bit, mostly got confused and moved on |
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| 20:39.05 | mindjuju | ~APB any SQL guru |
| 20:39.06 | jbot | ACTION calls Duane Lee to stake out any SQL guru |
| 20:40.56 | mgeary | sup? |
| 20:41.02 | mgeary | btw, you still owe me info on your BIL |
| 20:41.27 | mindjuju | oh yeah, he hasn't replied to my IM yet |
| 20:42.24 | mindjuju | so, here is question, i guess question is mainly how long does temp table exist? |
| 20:43.48 | mindjuju | Like can i do several select statements in a sproc and pour all results into temp table? |
| 20:44.36 | mgeary | hmm. beats me. good question |
| 20:44.53 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:04.09 | wps | how would I escape the question mark? |
| 21:04.17 | wps | with a \ ? |
| 21:04.51 | SunSparc | wps: Yes, I think so. |
| 21:05.36 | wps | hmm… not working |
| 21:08.04 | mindjuju | wps, is there a space between \ and ? \? AFAIK should escape the ? |
| 21:08.25 | wps | no space |
| 21:08.34 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 21:10.37 | mindjuju | is this still on that rewrite you've been working on? |
| 21:10.44 | wps | yeah |
| 21:11.10 | mindjuju | i wonder if olds is around, seems like he's good at rewrite, i haven't used my regex in a long time |
| 21:11.17 | mindjuju | should pick it back up before I forget it all |
| 21:20.08 | wps | according to this page a backslash should be sufficient |
| 21:20.08 | wps | http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/misc/RegEx-QuickRef.htm |
| 21:20.42 | Utah_Dave | Are all the idiots in Utah involved with SCO? |
| 21:20.44 | Utah_Dave | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080205-former-sco-chair-behind-utah-wifi-age-verification-proposal.html |
| 21:21.29 | herlo | Utah_Dave: yeah, and can you tinyurl that? |
| 21:21.32 | _psychic_ | no it's just one idiot causing a lot of trouble |
| 21:21.45 | _psychic_ | same dude as cp80 |
| 21:21.52 | mindjuju | wps, i know, that's weird, i was looking at my visibone cheatsheet i bought from macnewbold |
| 21:21.55 | mindjuju | it really should work |
| 21:22.07 | Utah_Dave | ~tinyurl herlo |
| 21:22.08 | jbot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=herlo' and laughs maniacally! |
| 21:22.25 | herlo | Utah_Dave: my screen is small |
| 21:22.28 | herlo | pls? |
| 21:22.36 | Utah_Dave | sure just a sec |
| 21:23.02 | Utah_Dave | http://tinyurl.com/2ytxud |
| 21:24.05 | herlo | tx |
| 21:26.09 | mgeary | like a bad penny. sheesh |
| 21:29.34 | herlo | Utah_Dave: so I went up to the capital last week when they had the community comment |
| 21:29.45 | herlo | we basically educated Rep Daw |
| 21:29.47 | Utah_Dave | oh, yeah? how was it? |
| 21:30.06 | herlo | and he seemed somewhat receptive to the idea that what he's trying to accomplish is quite unreasonable |
| 21:30.15 | herlo | at least for the technology part |
| 21:30.44 | mgeary | *seemed* is the key word there |
| 21:30.53 | herlo | but I don't think he'll completely drop this as there seems to be a bunch of people out there who think our government can do a better job protecting our kids than we should be |
| 21:30.59 | wps | I can understand noise ordinances, but no one forces you onto your neighbor's wifi network |
| 21:31.00 | herlo | mgeary: agreed |
| 21:31.09 | mgeary | politicians are expert patronizers |
| 21:31.10 | herlo | wps: O I can |
| 21:31.12 | herlo | :) |
| 21:31.17 | mgeary | because they can't afford to tick off voters |
| 21:31.19 | herlo | mgeary: righton |
| 21:31.19 | wps | and it's up to parents to manage wether their kids have computer usage |
| 21:31.21 | _psychic_ | wps: the proposed bill excludes residential wifi |
| 21:31.27 | wps | oh… it does? |
| 21:31.31 | herlo | wps: totally agreed |
| 21:31.41 | _psychic_ | wps: http://le.utah.gov/~2008/bills/hbillint/hb0139.htm |
| 21:31.48 | herlo | _psychic_: it does, but I'd be less surprised if they tried that next |
| 21:31.59 | _psychic_ | totally agree |
| 21:32.05 | _psychic_ | wps: line 69 |
| 21:32.10 | wps | it still all boils down to this |
| 21:32.12 | wps | parenting |
| 21:32.16 | wps | and the lack thereof |
| 21:32.23 | wps | we don't need more laws |
| 21:32.25 | _psychic_ | but Yarro is big on Uncle sam doing all the parenting |
| 21:32.25 | wps | we need parents |
| 21:32.32 | _psychic_ | more education |
| 21:32.43 | wps | jbot, melvin Yarro |
| 21:32.44 | jbot | ACTION pulls Yarro underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 21:33.09 | _psychic_ | well just look at all the CP80 initiatives |
| 21:33.12 | herlo | wps: nobody should want to tell our children how to act but us as parents |
| 21:33.17 | wps | you can't keep kinds save by locking them in the closet |
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| 21:33.24 | _psychic_ | people just jump on board because it's a crusade "for the children's sake." |
| 21:33.26 | herlo | problem is, too many parents these days think its the governments responsibility |
| 21:33.34 | herlo | AND ITS NOT! |
| 21:33.37 | wps | yup |
| 21:33.56 | dataw0lf | so I'm 1) getting married, 2) moving to Salt Lake in ~April |
| 21:34.05 | wps | wow |
| 21:34.06 | wps | congrats |
| 21:34.16 | dataw0lf | thanks |
| 21:34.19 | Utah_Dave | whoa! congratulations! |
| 21:34.21 | _psychic_ | herlo: me too |
| 21:34.27 | mindjuju | congrats dataw0lf! |
| 21:34.27 | _psychic_ | congrats dataw0lf |
| 21:34.37 | _psychic_ | I was waiting for #3 |
| 21:34.40 | wps | legislatures should spend their time instigating laws that limit reproduction instead |
| 21:34.45 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: Congrats! |
| 21:34.51 | wps | jbot, hug dataw0lf |
| 21:34.51 | jbot | ACTION hugs dataw0lf tightly until dataw0lf turns slightly blue |
| 21:34.51 | _psychic_ | wps: huh? |
| 21:35.21 | wps | people should have to proof competency before having children :) |
| 21:35.34 | SunSparc | wps: lol |
| 21:35.52 | dataw0lf | well #3 is I'm actively looking for a job in Salt Lake ;-D |
| 21:35.58 | herlo | dataw0lf: sweet, I'll see you soon then man |
| 21:36.21 | herlo | dataw0lf: Guru Labs is hiring competent linux professionals |
| 21:36.48 | dataw0lf | herlo: had a discussion with sjansen, he's handing over my resume and recommending me, so .. :-) |
| 21:36.50 | dataw0lf | that'd be nice |
| 21:37.01 | herlo | dataw0lf: you were supposed to talk with me first |
| 21:37.14 | herlo | sjansen doesn't need the bonus as bad as I do |
| 21:37.31 | dataw0lf | haha, sorry bout that |
| 21:37.59 | herlo | wps: proving competency is like asking Bush to be smart |
| 21:38.07 | herlo | it can't be done... |
| 21:38.54 | wps | dataw0lf: you up for a challenge? no one else has been able to solve this problem |
| 21:38.59 | wps | you're my last hope |
| 21:39.19 | dataw0lf | alright |
| 21:39.23 | dataw0lf | what's up |
| 21:39.32 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/KKcRdn11.html |
| 21:39.40 | wps | the question mark isn't escaping |
| 21:40.16 | wps | it's sending everything after the question mark into the new URL as a GET var… I don't want it to do that |
| 21:41.35 | mgeary | so, dataw0lf, want a sweet job in Orem at $50k?? :) :) |
| 21:41.38 | orsonj | ditch the question mark and rewrite a bit of code? will look nicer too. |
| 21:41.47 | mgeary | notice i jumped you right to the top end of our budget there |
| 21:42.02 | wps | I'd like to but the point of this rewrite is to ensure that legacy URLs continue to work |
| 21:42.08 | orsonj | ah |
| 21:42.27 | orsonj | try . instead of \? |
| 21:42.44 | wps | use a period in front of the question mark instead of a back slash? |
| 21:42.51 | orsonj | instead of both |
| 21:43.28 | wps | nope |
| 21:43.31 | orsonj | hmmm. |
| 21:44.13 | wps | I should clarify… it's not even getting to the redirect part… it's not even matching |
| 21:44.31 | wps | this is my URL |
| 21:44.32 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.34 | herlo | mgeary: $50k, doing what? |
| 21:44.56 | mgeary | herlo: we need another PHP developer. 'Course getting DW to code PHP might be problematic |
| 21:45.06 | mgeary | hey, wps, i'm talking here! |
| 21:45.09 | mgeary | ;) |
| 21:45.10 | wps | :) |
| 21:45.33 | mgeary | dataw0lf could lead our charge into django deployment |
| 21:45.49 | mgeary | that's worth at least $35k in satisfaction alone |
| 21:45.59 | wps | true |
| 21:46.10 | dataw0lf | wps: hm, try using a RewriteCond on %{QueryString} |
| 21:46.26 | dataw0lf | then again, with Django's awesome url mapping, I haven't had to screw with mod_rewrite for a while so... ;-) |
| 21:46.41 | dataw0lf | mgeary: yea, you'd have to pay me a lot more to work with PHP ;-) |
| 21:46.46 | dataw0lf | Orem is a little out of the way besides |
| 21:46.52 | mgeary | pish |
| 21:47.05 | mgeary | we're up-and-coming |
| 21:47.58 | dataw0lf | not everyone can be a porn star, tim |
| 21:48.10 | timinator | har har |
| 21:48.11 | tierra | ^5 |
| 21:48.15 | dataw0lf | ^5 |
| 21:48.27 | timinator | props to DW, that was pretty funny |
| 21:48.41 | orsonj | wps: make a directory named ?webinar there doesn't need to be anything in it, but I had a problem like that. however I didn't have the question mark in there. |
| 21:49.47 | orsonj | That was something I was thinking about posting to the group, but never got around to it. |
| 21:52.47 | orsonj | datawolf's idea sounds better though. |
| 21:54.03 | orsonj | or, just draw a picture of your webserver and poke pins in it till it works properly. |
| 21:54.40 | wps | :( |
| 21:54.47 | PoeticIntensity | LOL, orsonj |
| 21:57.59 | orsonj | well, someone did say mod_rewrite was voodoo |
| 21:59.09 | PoeticIntensity | orsonj, you've gotta post your Firefox coolness... I've been waiting for it to appear.. :) |
| 22:00.04 | orsonj | did you try it out? |
| 22:00.14 | PoeticIntensity | I haven't yet... |
| 22:00.17 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't keep the URL... :- |
| 22:00.18 | PoeticIntensity | | |
| 22:00.26 | PoeticIntensity | I would love to, though.\ |
| 22:00.53 | orsonj | :q |
| 22:01.08 | orsonj | heh, wrong window |
| 22:01.27 | tierra | wps: you get your mod_rewrite figured out? jumped in late, but yeah, you have to pull the ${QUERY_STRING} out |
| 22:01.38 | tierra | RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^(.*)$ |
| 22:02.07 | Utah_Dave | wps: did you post your job opening on our list? |
| 22:02.48 | mgeary | he did |
| 22:03.19 | orsonj | PoeticIntensity: http://rafb.net/p/LMEwWf10.html |
| 22:03.30 | orsonj | the old one timed out, so I just repasted it. |
| 22:03.32 | Utah_Dave | I only saw the intern position |
| 22:03.55 | orsonj | It goes in your userContent.css file in firefox's chrome directory |
| 22:03.59 | Utah_Dave | orsonj: I tried it out. it's pretty cool. |
| 22:03.59 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 22:04.04 | PoeticIntensity | will do. |
| 22:04.21 | _psychic_ | orsonj: what does that do? |
| 22:05.31 | orsonj | It overrides some style sheets for scriptures.lds.org. Changes include, shrinking the width of the verses so they are easier to read, changing the superscript to not goof up the line spacing and a color change on the links to footnotes. |
| 22:06.05 | PoeticIntensity | I just put it in. |
| 22:06.15 | orsonj | or more concisely, it makes it look more like the hard copy. |
| 22:06.38 | PoeticIntensity | I assume it requires a restart of FF...? |
| 22:06.41 | orsonj | yep |
| 22:06.43 | _psychic_ | I wish there was a way to omit footnote markers when copying and pasting |
| 22:06.56 | orsonj | no kidding, that would be nice |
| 22:07.39 | wps | Utah_Dave: yes: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/2007-December/000149.html |
| 22:08.12 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 22:08.14 | PoeticIntensity | not yet.. |
| 22:08.16 | PoeticIntensity | I just tried it... |
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| 22:08.23 | PoeticIntensity | pretty darned cool, orsonj! Thanks! |
| 22:09.13 | PoeticIntensity | please post it..... If you don't, I'll be tempted to.... :) |
| 22:15.32 | orsonj | well, I just got a break waiting for a couple things, I'll see if I can post it now. |
| 22:15.49 | orsonj | windows updates are good for some things |
| 22:34.01 | PoeticIntensity | sweet! |
| 22:36.36 | bradym | so for some reason, my flash detection JS is creating a confirm box ,to prompt you to install flash, with the cancel button in german |
| 22:38.10 | bradym | very odd |
| 22:38.22 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:38.23 | PoeticIntensity | serious? |
| 22:38.28 | PoeticIntensity | gotta love computers. |
| 22:38.52 | PoeticIntensity | according to the addage, apparently *you* told it to show you a prompt-box in German... :) |
| 22:39.29 | bradym | lol - except that i didn't actually write the script myself.. so *someone* told it to show in german.. somehow.. without actually putting it in the code... |
| 22:39.30 | bradym | ;) |
| 22:39.41 | PoeticIntensity | tee hee. |
| 22:41.05 | bradym | ahh...ok.. it's actually doing what it should.. the screenshot is from browsershots, and i just noticed that all of the menus are in german.. so apparently browsershots is a german shop |
| 22:42.57 | orsonj | ok, for those who want to see the writeup http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3520&user=30 |
| 22:43.53 | orsonj | As a bonus, I got it up before windows updates finished and the person I'm waiting on, I'm still waiting on. :) |
| 23:06.57 | orsonj | Sometimes working at a retail store can be handy. I was going to buy something online at sams, but a number had rubbed off my card so I couldn't read it. So, just now, I went over to an unused register, scanned the barcode on my card and got the missing digit. |
| 23:08.35 | SunSparc | So handy |
| 23:22.51 | PoeticIntensity | freakin' awesome, orsonj! |
| 23:23.21 | PoeticIntensity | however.... I believe the filename you suggest to change in the article is different from the one you told me to change..... ... ? |
| 23:23.37 | PoeticIntensity | article = userChrome.css |
| 23:23.56 | PoeticIntensity | mine = userContent.css |
| 23:24.09 | PoeticIntensity | will either one work? |
| 23:43.22 | orsonj | my bad, going from memory |
| 23:45.16 | orsonj | just switched the references in the post |
| 23:46.57 | mindjuju | where be beandog ? |
| 23:47.09 | mindjuju | or thebigdog |
| 23:47.21 | thebigdog | im here |
| 23:47.33 | mindjuju | hey, what are you running, myth or sage? |
| 23:47.41 | mindjuju | seems like myth if i recall, right? |
| 23:48.24 | thebigdog | who? |
| 23:48.38 | mindjuju | aren't you using mythtv , thebigdog? |
| 23:48.53 | thebigdog | nope |
| 23:48.59 | thebigdog | i just use mplayer |
| 23:49.13 | herlo | vlc! |
| 23:49.14 | herlo | ftw |
| 23:49.23 | mindjuju | what about TV shows? |
| 23:49.30 | herlo | vlc ftw |
| 23:49.35 | mindjuju | ~wtf ftw |
| 23:49.44 | mindjuju | k, not just me |
| 23:49.45 | thebigdog | i use vlc too |
| 23:49.58 | herlo | mindjuju: you can get just about anything from tv with the right connections |
| 23:50.00 | thebigdog | i dont watch tv on my comp when i have a 52" in my bed room |
| 23:50.11 | herlo | jbot: ftw is for the win |
| 23:50.12 | jbot | ...but ftw is already something else... |
| 23:50.18 | herlo | jbot: ftw is also for the win |
| 23:50.18 | jbot | okay, herlo |
| 23:50.24 | herlo | ~ftw |
| 23:50.24 | jbot | i heard ftw is wtf backwards, or for the win, or for the win |
| 23:50.33 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:51.00 | mindjuju | well, i was looking for a PVR type system to get TV shows that I can then store on the SAN and make available to the TVs |
| 23:51.08 | mindjuju | so what is ftw ? |
| 23:52.44 | thebigdog | hehe for the win |
| 23:52.56 | mindjuju | ~tunafart thebigdog |
| 23:52.57 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to thebigdog, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 23:53.36 | mindjuju | ~wiki ftw |
| 23:53.37 | influx^^_ | uh |
| 23:53.38 | influx^^_ | olds |
| 23:54.24 | mindjuju | oh |
| 23:54.32 | mindjuju | i thought it was a plugin for vlc |
| 23:54.57 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:54.59 | thebigdog | it sure is |
| 23:55.01 | mindjuju | i wonder if you can get tivo to dump its files |
| 23:55.10 | thebigdog | you can hack tivo |
| 23:55.20 | thebigdog | oreilly has a book on it |
| 23:55.35 | thebigdog | http://www.keegan.org/jeff/tivo/hackingtivo.html |
| 23:55.36 | mindjuju | really? |
| 23:56.23 | thebigdog | extractstream is probably what you want with tivo |
| 23:56.31 | mindjuju | yeah, was just reading it |
| 23:56.36 | mindjuju | but that only pipes to a PC |
| 23:56.48 | mindjuju | i need to convert to AVI or some other file format |
| 23:56.52 | mindjuju | so TV can play |
| 23:56.53 | thebigdog | http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-TiVo-Expansion-Enhancement-Development/dp/0764543369 |
| 23:57.19 | thebigdog | i can play from my computer to my tv |
| 23:57.47 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 23:58.05 | mindjuju | i think i'd rather go TIVO --> SAN <-- xbox/tv |
| 23:58.25 | mindjuju | which is why i was orignially thinking mythtv instead of tivo |
| 23:58.35 | thebigdog | myth is nice |
| 23:58.48 | thebigdog | i just dont have another box for it |
| 23:58.57 | mindjuju | tierra, why do you hate it? |
| 23:59.06 | mindjuju | i'm looking to go that way, want to know all before i waste my time |
| 23:59.27 | tierra | it's not developed for users like myself in mind... which is weird, because I would think there would be more users like myself... |
| 23:59.47 | thebigdog | how are you different? |
| 23:59.58 | tierra | as in, I have a massive collection of video, including over network mounts, and the browser sucks |