| 00:02.45 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity, was it you that put the blog on CP80 ? |
| 00:02.58 | PoeticIntensity | no... |
| 00:03.02 | PoeticIntensity | I think that was Utah_Dave |
| 00:03.06 | mindjuju | oh was it? |
| 00:03.13 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I was pretty interested in it as well. |
| 00:03.14 | mindjuju | no, i think it was _psychic_ |
| 00:03.15 | _psychic_ | It was me |
| 00:03.16 | wps | can I delete an array of IDs with one SQL statement? |
| 00:03.20 | _psychic_ | why? |
| 00:03.21 | PoeticIntensity | it was _psychic_ |
| 00:03.22 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 00:03.25 | wps | anyone mind helping me with that syntax? |
| 00:03.29 | mindjuju | because of this - http://le.utah.gov/~2008/bills/hbillint/hb0139.htm |
| 00:03.37 | mindjuju | was introduced into the legislature |
| 00:03.44 | PoeticIntensity | delete from table where id in(1,2,3,4) |
| 00:03.50 | wps | in! |
| 00:03.50 | wps | thanks |
| 00:03.54 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 00:03.54 | wps | that's exactly what I needed |
| 00:04.34 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: gonna have to look at that |
| 00:04.37 | mindjuju | well not straight up cp80 |
| 00:04.39 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: thanks for the heads up |
| 00:04.44 | mindjuju | yeah for sure |
| 00:04.45 | _psychic_ | "Harmful to Minors" |
| 00:05.00 | mindjuju | yeah, scary |
| 00:05.04 | _psychic_ | dammit |
| 00:05.06 | _psychic_ | ok |
| 00:05.07 | _psychic_ | gotta go |
| 00:05.09 | mindjuju | i REALLY liked your words on it last time |
| 00:15.38 | mgeary | when last i informed myself at all about cp80, i found it incredibly naive and simplistic |
| 00:16.02 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 00:18.49 | mgeary | i don't have a problem with trying to regulate non-kid-friendly content, though i'm sure it's going to be impossible to find a solution everyone likes |
| 00:20.13 | fungus | Since the Internet is global, any laws passed will be very difficult to enforce, unless we go the route of china. |
| 00:20.29 | mgeary | yep |
| 00:20.59 | mgeary | however, there is an opportunity for someone who could "certify" a website to meet certain standards |
| 00:21.05 | mindjuju | well, on this bill that was introduced above, it's declaring filration at wireless access points |
| 00:21.14 | mgeary | they could publish a whitelist (or make a service available) |
| 00:21.15 | mindjuju | so not quite CP80 |
| 00:21.21 | mindjuju | similar |
| 00:21.53 | fungus | Legal guidelines for a whitelist could work. |
| 00:22.29 | mgeary | and penalties for breaking those guidelines once, you've been added to the list |
| 00:22.35 | mindjuju | except that not everything i think is bad is marked as bad, nor vice versa |
| 00:22.41 | mgeary | no |
| 00:22.43 | mgeary | there would be set standards |
| 00:22.54 | mgeary | not value statements |
| 00:23.08 | mgeary | dunno |
| 00:23.30 | mindjuju | was working at an employer who thought the classics, like the Venice de milo was pr0n |
| 00:23.31 | mgeary | but again, it's not content filtering, it's whitelisting of domains that have agreed to meet certain criteria |
| 00:23.37 | fungus | Even whitelisting could be defeated by rogue porn producers from other countries. |
| 00:23.53 | mgeary | how so? they'd have to certify with a US entity |
| 00:24.13 | fungus | Unless there is some crypto signature, it could be forged. |
| 00:24.19 | mgeary | ah |
| 00:24.29 | wps | shOOP, shOOPy-dOOP, shOOPy-dOOPy-dOOPy-dOOP |
| 00:25.04 | fungus | And those outside our country have not legal imperative to follow our law |
| 00:25.06 | wps | I'm not sure how it's going to benefit me yet, but I'm giving it a try :) |
| 00:25.20 | wps | bigdog would be so proud |
| 00:25.27 | wps | too bad he's not here to share in the moment |
| 00:29.34 | fungus | Perhaps our govt could use the same technology as EV SSL certs to certify known-good sites. |
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| 06:30.40 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 06:32.46 | wps | I |
| 06:33.19 | mindjuju | hey, i've got a problem with a file uploader, it's crazy |
| 06:33.31 | mindjuju | i've got the whole script commented out and some debug script in |
| 06:33.47 | mindjuju | all the debug is print_r($_FILES); |
| 06:33.57 | mindjuju | so essentially, i'm posting to just that |
| 06:34.02 | mindjuju | so here is the prob |
| 06:34.09 | mindjuju | i upload one zip, and works fine, i see data there |
| 06:34.14 | mindjuju | i upload another zip, nothing |
| 06:34.20 | mindjuju | no errors, just nothing |
| 06:34.26 | mindjuju | any ideas? |
| 06:35.17 | wps | so your upload form posts to a file… and in that file the only thing you are doing is the print_r? |
| 06:36.00 | mindjuju | yeah, i've commented out EVERYTHING trying to find out why one zip works and another won't |
| 06:36.12 | mindjuju | i've tried several zip, prolly 2 out of 5 currently working |
| 06:36.28 | wps | I guess I can kind of see that not working |
| 06:36.29 | mindjuju | that is to say 2 uploads are completing, the other 3 fail |
| 06:36.40 | mindjuju | not sure i follow? |
| 06:36.44 | wps | do you have to specify a path to a location where the file gets copied to after it's uploaded? |
| 06:36.58 | wps | s/do/don't/ |
| 06:37.05 | mindjuju | nope, it'll save to a temp folder |
| 06:37.12 | mindjuju | that's specified in php.ini |
| 06:37.21 | wps | and if you didn't, wouldn't they just be saved to a temp place and then be overrighting each other? |
| 06:37.36 | mindjuju | they are given unique names |
| 06:37.39 | wps | overwriting |
| 06:37.57 | wps | hmm… I'm not sure then |
| 06:37.57 | mindjuju | and even if overwriting, that file array should return with data |
| 06:38.20 | wps | I've always hated file upload |
| 06:38.29 | wps | I like file servers :) |
| 06:38.32 | wps | FTP! |
| 06:39.14 | mindjuju | this is nuts, i've deactivate virus scan, firewall |
| 06:39.26 | mindjuju | its not a public box yet, so i'm ok |
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| 15:37.44 | timinator | mawnin' guys |
| 15:40.02 | jsmith | G'morning |
| 15:43.56 | mindjuju | morning gents |
| 15:44.47 | mindjuju | feel like freakin' dr. zhivago |
| 15:46.53 | RedHeron | Oh? |
| 15:47.14 | mindjuju | yeah, living in the frozen tundra |
| 15:47.19 | mindjuju | huge piles of snow everywhere |
| 15:47.24 | mindjuju | sub freezing temps |
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| 15:48.58 | RedHeron | And some weird chick singing? |
| 15:49.18 | mindjuju | don't remember that part of the movie, been years since i saw it |
| 15:49.23 | mindjuju | just remember the piles of snow |
| 15:49.44 | jsmith | Mmmmn... snow.... |
| 15:49.47 | RedHeron | Oh, so you're the one singing as you travel on the train? |
| 15:49.51 | jsmith | I sure wish you guys would send some my direction |
| 15:50.19 | RedHeron | . |
| 15:50.38 | SunSparc | Hello? |
| 15:50.41 | jsmith | Darn firewall blocks your DCC... can you send that via Fedex instead? |
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| 15:51.14 | SunSparc | Ah, that's better |
| 15:52.55 | mindjuju | so guys, if i have a file upload script, and IS working. picks up the file and dumps it exactly where i want it. limits on file types that I specify and file size, everything is just perfect |
| 15:53.01 | mindjuju | EXCEPT! |
| 15:53.16 | mindjuju | it likes this zip file, but not that one |
| 15:53.31 | mindjuju | this bigger jpg, not that smaller one |
| 15:53.48 | mindjuju | what do you make of that? |
| 15:54.38 | mindjuju | and the craziest part of it all... |
| 15:54.53 | RedHeron | I'm wondering if there isn't some kind of math error that's inverting the compressed file sizes. |
| 15:54.57 | jsmith | size matters? |
| 15:55.08 | mindjuju | when i put this in to the page that handles the upload, and comment out everything, it comes back as blank - print_r($_FILES); |
| 15:55.52 | mindjuju | size doesn't matter |
| 15:56.17 | RedHeron | Erhm... |
| 15:57.06 | jsmith | RedHeron: I poured concrete a few summers in high school... I prefer a 12-lb sledge |
| 15:57.28 | RedHeron | jsmith: See? Size matters. |
| 15:57.55 | jsmith | RedHeron: I was being facetious |
| 15:58.00 | jsmith | (or however you spell that) |
| 15:58.13 | mindjuju | guess its too early to ask this question |
| 15:58.29 | RedHeron | http://us2.php.net/print_r |
| 15:58.49 | RedHeron | Do you a ; after it? |
| 15:59.11 | mindjuju | yes |
| 15:59.14 | RedHeron | ok |
| 15:59.22 | RedHeron | Is it being recorded? |
| 15:59.48 | jsmith | mindjuju: What if you replace your print_r with a call to phpinfo()? See anything useful in there? |
| 16:00.00 | mindjuju | on the ones that work, it does, and on the ones that don't work, it comes back as blank |
| 16:00.13 | mindjuju | have checked phpinfo() |
| 16:00.18 | RedHeron | mindjuju: try a var_dump() too |
| 16:00.31 | mindjuju | file upload on, file size set to 150mb |
| 16:00.50 | RedHeron | 150mb ... (!) |
| 16:01.11 | RedHeron | Might actually be too big. |
| 16:01.33 | mindjuju | yeah, way too small for my needs |
| 16:01.41 | RedHeron | Hrmmm... |
| 16:01.43 | mindjuju | i'll be receiving files around 100mb |
| 16:01.47 | mindjuju | i doubt that is it though |
| 16:01.51 | mindjuju | cause its working |
| 16:01.51 | RedHeron | ok |
| 16:01.55 | RedHeron | Oh, right. |
| 16:02.01 | RedHeron | The upload's fine, right. |
| 16:02.14 | RedHeron | Variable the $_FILES call. |
| 16:02.34 | RedHeron | Like "$a = $_FILES;" or something |
| 16:02.43 | RedHeron | Then try it. |
| 16:02.50 | mindjuju | well, i'm dumping everything in $_files with the print_r |
| 16:02.54 | RedHeron | I know. |
| 16:03.10 | RedHeron | But try seeing if it'll pass into a variable and var_dump() it. |
| 16:07.21 | mindjuju | redheron - says essentially the same thing - array(0) { } |
| 16:07.49 | mindjuju | if the $_FILES contains no data for the print_r, it won't contain data to assign to a var to then be dumped |
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| 16:08.45 | RedHeron | mindjuju: I know, but if it passed, then it would be an actual bug. |
| 16:09.58 | RedHeron | Okay, can you PM me the script? |
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| 16:11.57 | mindjuju | my problem isn't in the script, i can tell it because even when i comment out everything and just put this |
| 16:11.58 | mindjuju | <?php |
| 16:11.58 | mindjuju | print_r($_FILES); |
| 16:11.58 | mindjuju | ?> |
| 16:12.07 | mindjuju | i still have intermittency on file upload |
| 16:12.25 | mindjuju | that line of code is sooo baseline that I should have data on all file uploads |
| 16:12.32 | mindjuju | but i'm not |
| 16:13.40 | mindjuju | so on the page handling the file upload, that is literally the only thing |
| 16:15.28 | mgeary | what's the prob, mindjuju? |
| 16:15.34 | mindjuju | hi mgeary |
| 16:15.37 | mgeary | morning |
| 16:15.46 | mindjuju | i'm having problems with a file upload script |
| 16:15.57 | mindjuju | on the one side, standard HTML form |
| 16:15.59 | mgeary | what's it doing? |
| 16:16.13 | mindjuju | <form action="uploader.php" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data" name="form1"> |
| 16:16.35 | mindjuju | on the other <?php print_r($_FILES);?> |
| 16:16.47 | mindjuju | not all files are completing the upload |
| 16:16.54 | mindjuju | some zips yes, some zips no |
| 16:16.55 | mgeary | *some* are? |
| 16:17.00 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:17.01 | mgeary | how many file inputs do you have? |
| 16:17.07 | mindjuju | 1 |
| 16:17.15 | mgeary | ah, so a given submit may or may not wrk |
| 16:17.17 | mgeary | work |
| 16:17.21 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:17.25 | mindjuju | the same files always fail |
| 16:17.27 | mgeary | are you developing on localhost, perchance? |
| 16:17.33 | mindjuju | nope |
| 16:17.49 | mindjuju | and virus scan off |
| 16:17.53 | mgeary | and you've checked the max filesize/max upload/max post config values? |
| 16:18.05 | mindjuju | using phpinfo() |
| 16:18.38 | mgeary | have you eliminated the possibility that the hit/miss behavior correlates to upload file size? |
| 16:18.54 | mgeary | e.g. uploaded a smaller failing file, or a larger successful file |
| 16:19.14 | mindjuju | yeah, max file size set to 150mb, that seems to be inconsistant, honestly |
| 16:19.22 | mindjuju | smaller jpgs yes, bigger zips yes |
| 16:19.23 | mgeary | that's an awful limit |
| 16:19.39 | mgeary | who'd want to upload that big a file via http? but anyway... |
| 16:19.40 | mindjuju | some larger jpg no |
| 16:19.52 | mindjuju | yeah, not only that, but it's https |
| 16:19.56 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:20.03 | mindjuju | but that part isn't even on yet |
| 16:20.05 | mgeary | does the apache log register the POST on a failed file? |
| 16:20.41 | mindjuju | well, mgeary, you're headed just the way i was thinking this morning. it's not apache, its IIS 5 |
| 16:20.46 | mgeary | eww |
| 16:20.48 | mgeary | ;) |
| 16:21.06 | mindjuju | i hate to chalk it up to IIS since some files are uploading |
| 16:21.10 | mgeary | next question is, have you tried using a traffic monitor (i like Charles), to see what's happening? |
| 16:21.15 | mindjuju | but what the h3ll else could it be? |
| 16:21.36 | mgeary | well, with IIS, you never can tell, eh? |
| 16:21.44 | mindjuju | hmm, i have analogx traffic monitor, let me see what it says |
| 16:23.12 | mgeary | also, try putting other <input> types in the form, and in your PHP page, output $_POST as well as $_FILES |
| 16:23.23 | mgeary | to see if it's the whole form, or just the file that's dropping |
| 16:23.50 | mindjuju | k, right now i'm uploading a 100mb file |
| 16:24.03 | mindjuju | i can see the incoming at 5.5mb |
| 16:24.20 | mgeary | is that a real use-case? a 100mb file?? |
| 16:24.24 | mgeary | 'cause that's just awful |
| 16:24.37 | mindjuju | and it goes for about 30 seconds, which for a local transfer seems right to me |
| 16:25.00 | mindjuju | yeah, sadly i can expect files anywhere between 50mb - 100, with 110 being v large |
| 16:25.12 | mindjuju | but don't want to cap it too low cause their is always the exception |
| 16:25.16 | mgeary | are you providing some sort of feedback mech so the user can see the upload progress |
| 16:25.17 | mgeary | > |
| 16:25.18 | mgeary | ? |
| 16:25.30 | mindjuju | yeah, but i'll cross that bridge when i get there |
| 16:25.38 | mgeary | k |
| 16:25.40 | mindjuju | just need to first ensure that the file gets there |
| 16:25.43 | mgeary | yep |
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| 16:26.40 | mgeary | ~whaleslap thebigdog |
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| 16:26.48 | mgeary | morning 'dog |
| 16:27.05 | thebigdog | morning |
| 16:27.27 | thebigdog | man im so ready for the weekend |
| 16:27.34 | mindjuju | i've got to keep this box a windows box, but i wonder if apache would handle the file upload better? |
| 16:27.39 | mindjuju | sup thebigdog |
| 16:27.46 | mindjuju | i'm having a crap of a morning |
| 16:28.20 | thebigdog | traffic sucks coming to work |
| 16:28.31 | mindjuju | hey, thebigdog, can you think of anything that would cause one file to upload and another file to not |
| 16:28.44 | mindjuju | where the script is so stripped down that all it has is a print_r ? |
| 16:29.01 | thebigdog | size? |
| 16:29.12 | thebigdog | file type |
| 16:29.13 | mindjuju | some big pass where some smallers don't |
| 16:29.16 | mindjuju | zip |
| 16:29.40 | mindjuju | and the failing zips work on the OS |
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| 16:29.51 | mindjuju | so don't think it is some kind of CRC checksum issue |
| 16:29.54 | thebigdog | how are you uploading the files? |
| 16:30.13 | mindjuju | <form action="uploader.php" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data" name="form1"> |
| 16:30.47 | thebigdog | is php handling the upload? |
| 16:30.48 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:30.48 | thebigdog | are you adding max file size? |
| 16:31.16 | mindjuju | in the php script, it does have provisions for max file size, but i've commented everything out except for print_r($_FILES); |
| 16:31.25 | thebigdog | like <input type="hidden" name="MAX_FILE_SIZE" value="30000" /> |
| 16:31.42 | mindjuju | and in the ensuing dump, on the ones that fail, it displays nothing , and the ones that pass, it dumps the array |
| 16:31.51 | thebigdog | http://us2.php.net/features.file-upload |
| 16:32.24 | thebigdog | php default is 2mb file upload |
| 16:32.28 | thebigdog | have you check that too |
| 16:32.28 | mgeary | mindjuju: have you tried adding the other <inputs> to the form? |
| 16:32.43 | mindjuju | yeah, php.ini has file upload yes, and max filesize 150 |
| 16:32.44 | thebigdog | and your php memory limit too |
| 16:32.53 | thebigdog | 150mb |
| 16:33.01 | mindjuju | php memory, that i haven't changed |
| 16:33.13 | thebigdog | that needs to be able to handle the file upload too |
| 16:33.27 | mgeary | but larger files succeed where smaller files fail |
| 16:33.35 | mgeary | so i'm not inclined to think it's a memory issue |
| 16:33.39 | thebigdog | and your max exec time too |
| 16:33.40 | mindjuju | have files coming between 50mb and 110mb, i capped it extra high for those jus tin case |
| 16:34.18 | thebigdog | and post_max_size too |
| 16:35.16 | mindjuju | k, going through php.ini right now |
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| 16:37.28 | mindjuju | k, i'm going thorugh ini with comb, first line that i see that might need to change is this one |
| 16:37.35 | mindjuju | max_execution_time = 30 |
| 16:37.46 | mgeary | that's awfully short for such a big upload |
| 16:37.54 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 16:38.08 | mindjuju | yeah, especially since some of these guys may be on DSL kicking over 100mb file |
| 16:38.31 | mgeary | but dangit, you really shouldn't be using http for such a big upload |
| 16:38.55 | mindjuju | i know mgeary, but here is the deal |
| 16:39.00 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 16:39.16 | mindjuju | i can't install anything on the client computer and it has to be firewall friendly |
| 16:39.23 | mindjuju | so that knocks out FTP |
| 16:39.54 | mindjuju | the clients are in the financial industries with some CRAZY strict guidelines |
| 16:39.59 | mgeary | what kind of files are these? |
| 16:40.07 | mindjuju | zip |
| 16:40.18 | mgeary | i'd think the 100mb range would make a clientside install justifiable |
| 16:40.26 | mindjuju | i wish |
| 16:40.32 | mgeary | at least using Shockwave or something |
| 16:40.48 | mindjuju | i think about as far as I can go is a java applet |
| 16:41.40 | mgeary | well, someone did a bad job of setting expectations, IMO |
| 16:41.57 | mgeary | even people with high speed connections often have sucky slow upload speeds |
| 16:42.02 | mgeary | but they don't often realize it |
| 16:42.08 | mgeary | until they try to upload 100 megs over http |
| 16:42.30 | mindjuju | well, so saying the slowest is on 512 DSL, the script could run as long as 26 minutes |
| 16:42.36 | mindjuju | for 100mb |
| 16:42.39 | mgeary | in a best case scenario |
| 16:43.38 | mindjuju | well, i can mandate that anything slower than 512 gets fedex |
| 16:44.48 | mindjuju | and i could also declare anything over 120mb gets fedex |
| 16:45.11 | mindjuju | maybe i'll do that, though the zips i was trying weren't nearly that size |
| 16:45.28 | mindjuju | was testing on 10mb files |
| 16:50.04 | mindjuju | k, so here is another line - |
| 16:50.05 | mindjuju | memory_limit = 128M ; Maximum amount of memory a script may consume (128MB) |
| 16:50.47 | mindjuju | if i hard cap the max filesize to 120 mb in the php.ini file, does the max memory need to be changed? |
| 16:51.24 | mgeary | possibly. i'd be interested to find out for *certain* that PHP needs to have the entire file in memory for an upload |
| 16:51.49 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:52.12 | fungus | Careful with large memory limits. The limits are per-request. |
| 16:53.03 | mindjuju | good call fungus |
| 16:53.18 | mindjuju | hey, by the way, i saw you were using IPv6 |
| 16:53.22 | mindjuju | cool |
| 16:53.22 | fungus | As with file uploads, I don't think you need the max memory increased to that point, unless you read the uploaded file into memory afterwards |
| 16:53.35 | mindjuju | don't |
| 16:53.45 | mindjuju | just simple upload and move to certain directory |
| 16:53.47 | fungus | Yup, just a tunnel to a free IPv6 provider. |
| 16:54.20 | mindjuju | you're the first i've seen on freenode, though i'm only on like 5 channels |
| 16:54.48 | mindjuju | so on a file upload, does php store the file in memory then transfer down to the hard drive? |
| 16:55.22 | mgeary | right, that's what i'd like to get a *concrete* (not guesses) answer to |
| 16:55.22 | fungus | IIRC, the file is immediately copied to a temporary spot, the temp spot is available in the $_FILES superglobal |
| 16:55.41 | mgeary | mindjuju: just do "top -u" while uploading a big file |
| 16:56.28 | mindjuju | can i see the same thing using task manager? |
| 16:56.42 | mindjuju | i can see the file come through on a througput level |
| 16:56.48 | mgeary | probably |
| 16:56.55 | mgeary | just see if IIS uses more RAM |
| 16:57.06 | mgeary | i don't believe it does on a big file |
| 16:57.28 | fungus | Or just set the max upload file size to something big, and the memory limit to something low, and try uploading a file, and watch the error that is generated. |
| 16:57.30 | fungus | much simpler |
| 16:57.52 | mindjuju | i wish i got an error from this |
| 16:58.39 | mindjuju | all i get is array() returned from the print_r($_FILES) |
| 16:59.08 | mgeary | have you *tried* adding those other <inputs> yet? |
| 16:59.19 | mgeary | see if $_POST has anything in it? |
| 16:59.40 | mindjuju | i did put in thebigdog's max file size |
| 16:59.46 | mindjuju | haven't checked to see what it posted |
| 16:59.48 | mindjuju | let me check |
| 17:02.33 | mindjuju | k, so that is two print_r back to back, the one on $_FILES, and the one on $_POST |
| 17:02.36 | mindjuju | here is result |
| 17:02.37 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.25 | mgeary | okay |
| 17:11.30 | mgeary | so all the data is failing |
| 17:11.36 | mgeary | have you checked your IIS logs? |
| 17:16.54 | mindjuju | yeah, but they don't really say too much |
| 17:17.01 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:17.11 | mgeary | dunno man. that's weird. i'd blame IIS |
| 17:17.45 | mgeary | not that it does you much good |
| 17:17.55 | mgeary | but i have heard that Apache on windows is better for PHP than IIS |
| 17:18.56 | mindjuju | yeah, i don't think i have any more time to waste searching, i think i HAVE to go apache on windows now for this product to hope to launch on time |
| 17:19.01 | mindjuju | i could be hunting for ever on this |
| 17:20.09 | olds | is it a particularly large form or anything |
| 17:21.57 | olds | I had an issue like that once, but it was because of the max upload size limit |
| 17:23.37 | mgeary | olds: yeah, but i believe if that was the problem, the other post fields would still populate |
| 17:24.17 | olds | true |
| 17:24.33 | olds | you know, IIS might have a max request size or something |
| 17:25.05 | mgeary | yeah, but he's had some larger files succeed where smaller files failed |
| 17:25.23 | mgeary | but IIS *does* have something like that, i believe. It's *also* got an independent timeout setting, i believe |
| 17:26.24 | fungus | In PHP turn your error_reporting up, and verify that errors are being displayed. |
| 17:26.32 | fungus | Just in case the problem is php |
| 17:27.06 | mgeary | good suggestion |
| 17:41.41 | SunSparc | You can do that inline as well. It is often quicker, especially if you are working in a shared environment that is not your dev box |
| 17:41.58 | mgeary | right |
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| 17:44.00 | mindjuju | k, i'm back |
| 17:44.07 | mindjuju | did have error reporting all the way up |
| 17:44.44 | mindjuju | it actually doesn't say anything, except that when a file upload fails, it says array not existant for the print_r($_FILES) |
| 17:46.20 | mindjuju | josephscott_lap - congrats on that money automattic raised - http://gigaom.com/2008/01/22/wordpresscom-creator-raises-29m/ |
| 17:46.31 | josephscott_lap | mindjuju: thanks |
| 17:47.12 | mindjuju | interested to see what new forum looks like |
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| 19:52.44 | wps | is it possible to insert multiple rows at once with phpMyAdmin? |
| 19:54.21 | bradym | yep |
| 19:54.32 | wps | how would that be done? |
| 19:54.42 | bradym | when you click insert it gives you the option to insert multiple items |
| 19:55.06 | bradym | or if you'd rather write the sql yourself, just paste it in the sql box and run it |
| 19:55.09 | wps | it only gives me the option to do two at a time |
| 19:56.39 | bradym | oh, i was thinking it gave more than that.. guess the best you can do is down at the bottom select "insert another row" before clicking go |
| 19:56.54 | wps | lame |
| 20:02.32 | timinator | either that or switch to the SQL part |
| 20:02.39 | timinator | and copy/paste |
| 20:03.26 | thebigdog | wps why not just do the sql for it |
| 20:04.59 | timinator | ya, fo sho |
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| 20:20.41 | PoeticIntensity | wow, mindjuju, I'm just coming into this conversation, but .... I've had that problem as well... |
| 20:20.49 | PoeticIntensity | Everything I tried has been said by others... |
| 20:21.02 | PoeticIntensity | I've never tried to do 100+M files, though... |
| 20:21.44 | mindjuju | well, i had 2 particular zips i that always worked and one that always failed. timinator was kind enough to recreate my exact code on his site and i tried uploading the files and they worked their |
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| 20:22.04 | mindjuju | even the one that chronically failed on mine passed on his |
| 20:22.16 | mindjuju | so, it has to be IIS |
| 20:22.19 | timinator | I'm on apache |
| 20:22.43 | timinator | gotta help a brotha out, ya know |
| 20:22.50 | mindjuju | :) , thx bro! |
| 20:23.00 | mindjuju | so, i'm actually in the process of setting up WAMP |
| 20:23.29 | PoeticIntensity | you rock, timinator |
| 20:23.38 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.... WAMP. |
| 20:23.41 | timinator | :) TY |
| 20:24.07 | PoeticIntensity | I'm having a *very* weird issue with IE.... |
| 20:24.16 | PoeticIntensity | I'm in the process of pushing this site to a place where ya'll can see it... |
| 20:24.20 | PoeticIntensity | hopefully someone can help. |
| 20:33.27 | PoeticIntensity | okay... |
| 20:33.42 | PoeticIntensity | can someone tell me if the following URL works? |
| 20:33.44 | PoeticIntensity | http://12.110.29.184/main_site/?pid=15159 |
| 20:33.58 | mindjuju | works in FF 2 |
| 20:34.02 | PoeticIntensity | ok... |
| 20:34.08 | PoeticIntensity | click on the "ingredients" tab... |
| 20:34.25 | mindjuju | k |
| 20:34.28 | PoeticIntensity | see the "ingredients" image that is like 1000 pixels long..? |
| 20:34.44 | mindjuju | says drug facts |
| 20:34.47 | PoeticIntensity | yes |
| 20:34.54 | PoeticIntensity | try it in IE now. |
| 20:34.58 | mindjuju | k, more data can see in FF 2, XP |
| 20:35.01 | PoeticIntensity | (if you would be so kind..) |
| 20:35.06 | mindjuju | Failure on IE 7, XP |
| 20:35.12 | PoeticIntensity | right... |
| 20:35.15 | PoeticIntensity | the image disappears... right? |
| 20:35.22 | mindjuju | yup |
| 20:35.30 | PoeticIntensity | however...... it's not really *gone*. |
| 20:35.36 | PoeticIntensity | roll over where the image is supposed to be... |
| 20:35.40 | PoeticIntensity | and text will appear... |
| 20:35.45 | PoeticIntensity | that text is the alt-text for the image. |
| 20:36.00 | PoeticIntensity | the code in the browser says it should be there... |
| 20:36.02 | PoeticIntensity | yet.... it's not. |
| 20:36.54 | PoeticIntensity | very strange... |
| 20:37.02 | mindjuju | IE 6 shows the same thing, failure (XP) |
| 20:37.10 | PoeticIntensity | I don't believe I've encountered this bug before. |
| 20:37.19 | PoeticIntensity | (thanks for checking in IE6. |
| 20:37.19 | PoeticIntensity | ) |
| 20:37.33 | PoeticIntensity | it also fails in Vista IE7. |
| 20:38.28 | PoeticIntensity | It has something to do with making the layer hidden, then bringing it back upon tab-clickage... |
| 20:38.30 | thebigdog | mindjuju, they worked on timinator's site cause i set that all up |
| 20:38.31 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 20:38.46 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:38.48 | PoeticIntensity | if I make all the layers visible, the image displays... |
| 20:38.51 | timinator | props to thebigdog |
| 20:39.01 | PoeticIntensity | that's cuz you da BIGDOG. |
| 20:40.21 | thebigdog | oh yea |
| 20:42.43 | mgeary | fits! |
| 20:42.51 | mindjuju | so PoeticIntensity |
| 20:43.10 | mindjuju | have you tried putting the image as the background of the div that it is in? |
| 20:43.12 | PoeticIntensity | yo.... |
| 20:43.17 | PoeticIntensity | I haven't... |
| 20:43.27 | mindjuju | here is you some code |
| 20:43.36 | mindjuju | background: url(/globals/images/somepic.jpg) repeat-y top left; |
| 20:43.42 | PoeticIntensity | gortcha. |
| 20:46.12 | PoeticIntensity | I don't think the background image will make the box stretch, though.. |
| 20:46.23 | PoeticIntensity | more often than not, the image is the longest portion of the page. |
| 20:46.53 | PoeticIntensity | I'm still tryin' it though. |
| 20:48.04 | mindjuju | it won't stretch, but was wondering if similarly affected |
| 20:48.23 | mindjuju | it's just this tag that'll get the background - <div style="float: right; padding-left: 5px;"> |
| 20:48.31 | PoeticIntensity | ok... |
| 20:48.33 | PoeticIntensity | almost there. |
| 20:49.23 | PoeticIntensity | ok... |
| 20:49.29 | PoeticIntensity | the background image is displaying as it should. |
| 20:49.32 | PoeticIntensity | (on the dev box) |
| 20:49.41 | PoeticIntensity | should be live now |
| 20:51.36 | PoeticIntensity | so..... hrm, hrm, hrm..... |
| 20:51.40 | mindjuju | hmm, didn't see that the image was making the text into a column |
| 20:51.49 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... it's floated right. |
| 20:51.56 | mindjuju | i do now though that the text is going rogue over the whole column |
| 20:52.04 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.. yup. |
| 20:52.40 | mindjuju | so, PI, remember how you had it before where the image was just in this div - <div style="float: right; padding-left: 5px;"> |
| 20:52.48 | mindjuju | <div style="float: right; padding-left: 5px;"><img src.... |
| 20:53.08 | mindjuju | can you put that holding div back in and put the background on that div that was holding the image? |
| 20:53.15 | mindjuju | does that make sense? |
| 20:53.26 | PoeticIntensity | yes... and yes. |
| 20:54.07 | PoeticIntensity | I see where you're going with this.... and I like it... :) |
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| 20:56.33 | PoeticIntensity | *hrmph*.... didn't work. |
| 20:56.45 | PoeticIntensity | in FF, it shows a bit of the background, though. |
| 20:56.55 | PoeticIntensity | bah... |
| 20:58.07 | PoeticIntensity | woah... |
| 20:58.11 | PoeticIntensity | that's weird.. |
| 20:58.19 | PoeticIntensity | check it now. |
| 20:58.35 | mindjuju | cool, almost there |
| 20:58.43 | PoeticIntensity | gettin' closer... |
| 21:00.11 | PoeticIntensity | got it. |
| 21:00.26 | PoeticIntensity | the parent <div> had a background-color = white... |
| 21:00.27 | mindjuju | rock on! |
| 21:00.32 | PoeticIntensity | that was blocking the image in the child. |
| 21:00.36 | PoeticIntensity | (for some weird reason) |
| 21:00.59 | mindjuju | along with that good news, here's more - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_co/economy_stimulus_glance |
| 21:01.24 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for your help, mindjuju |
| 21:01.30 | mgeary | did you guys see how Apple started the year at $200/share, and it's now at $130? |
| 21:02.00 | mindjuju | ~quot APPL |
| 21:02.08 | mindjuju | ~quote APPL |
| 21:02.14 | mgeary | woot |
| 21:02.54 | mindjuju | ~quote AAPL |
| 21:03.02 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:03.03 | mindjuju | mgeary, there it goes |
| 21:03.04 | mgeary | there it is |
| 21:03.13 | mindjuju | ~quote goog |
| 21:03.19 | mgeary | jeeze |
| 21:03.33 | mindjuju | wow! up $14 |
| 21:03.39 | mindjuju | from when it opened today |
| 21:20.55 | mgeary | ~quote juju |
| 21:23.49 | SunSparc | LOL!!! |
| 21:24.26 | mgeary | nah, i'm sure we're due for the WalMart discussion again. it's been, what, at least a month now |
| 21:24.40 | mindjuju | longer than a month on the walmart topic |
| 21:25.21 | mindjuju | though i do have a new year's reso to not be so argumentative on the channel |
| 21:25.25 | mindjuju | been good so far |
| 21:25.34 | mindjuju | though its a long way to next january |
| 21:26.50 | SunSparc | No you have not! |
| 21:27.28 | mindjuju | have we had an argument on here lately? |
| 21:27.40 | mindjuju | i mentioned CP80 the other day, but didn't say much |
| 21:27.41 | SunSparc | Yes! |
| 21:27.44 | mindjuju | we did? |
| 21:27.47 | mindjuju | what topic? |
| 21:27.52 | SunSparc | Every topic! |
| 21:28.23 | SunSparc | Just trying to get you to argue with me. |
| 21:28.30 | SunSparc | Apparently not working |
| 21:28.45 | mindjuju | was going to say, i'm solid on my reso, and didn't think we'd argued about much |
| 21:28.55 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:29.01 | SunSparc | Good on ya |
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| 21:44.27 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 21:44.57 | PoeticIntensity | man... the more one dives into CSS design, the more one realizes how the little incompatibilities between IE and FF can drive one completely insane... |
| 21:45.30 | mindjuju | that's for sure |
| 21:45.36 | PoeticIntensity | yup... |
| 21:46.25 | PoeticIntensity | the flip-side of that, however, is.... The more one gains knowledge of how CSS works in both browsers, the more one is able to find work-arounds quickly... |
| 21:49.07 | mindjuju | so you have more things to be irritated at, but the irritation last less and less time |
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| 21:56.18 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: http://peteashdown.org/journal/2008/01/24/the-end-of-free-xmission-wireless/ |
| 21:59.12 | mindjuju | oh no |
| 21:59.27 | _psychic_ | what did you expect |
| 22:00.52 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 22:01.29 | mindjuju | it's funny, i read an article a couple months ago about powers conspiring against iProvo and Utopia |
| 22:01.47 | mindjuju | hadn't heard anything about it sense until this blog |
| 22:08.06 | bradym | ~lart firefox memory usage "feature" |
| 22:08.06 | jbot | explains, ever so gently, that if firefox memory usage "feature" doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 22:11.39 | _psychic_ | ~lart Rep. Daws |
| 22:11.39 | jbot | shoots Rep. Daws in his sleep |
| 22:11.44 | _psychic_ | yikes |
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| 22:13.07 | _psychic_ | ~lart bradym |
| 22:13.08 | jbot | turns bradym into a lifesized tux doll |
| 22:13.22 | bradym | lol |
| 22:13.33 | _psychic_ | there are worse fates |
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| 22:24.39 | timinator | is there an easy to change a positive number to a negative? |
| 22:24.49 | timinator | $u = 130; |
| 22:25.04 | timinator | but I need to swap the +/- value of $u |
| 22:25.05 | mgeary | $u = -1 * $u; |
| 22:25.49 | timinator | hmmm.... that'll only work one way |
| 22:25.54 | timinator | + to a - |
| 22:25.55 | mgeary | not so |
| 22:26.00 | timinator | but I ..... no |
| 22:26.00 | mgeary | -1 * -3 = 3 |
| 22:26.16 | timinator | dangit |
| 22:26.40 | timinator | sheesh |
| 22:26.44 | mgeary | however, that's actually advanced for 2nd grade |
| 22:27.05 | timinator | ah.... I know why it wasn't working for me.... |
| 22:27.24 | timinator | when I'd hit - for the second number in my calc, it'd change the * to - |
| 22:27.28 | timinator | DUH!!! |
| 22:33.21 | bradym | ~tunafart windows |
| 22:33.22 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to windows, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 22:35.32 | bradym | no the OTHER windows... the windows that drove me to get a mac.. |
| 22:35.35 | bradym | ;) |
| 23:33.24 | mindjuju | hey, anybody know a good winders based spider? |
| 23:33.38 | thebigdog | what? |
| 23:33.44 | mindjuju | i know, good and winders in the same sentence |
| 23:34.06 | mindjuju | i need to make an offline copy of a website |
| 23:34.12 | bradym | httrack.com |
| 23:34.31 | Black_Chaos | httrack |
| 23:34.43 | Black_Chaos | or just plain ol wget :D |
| 23:35.16 | bradym | but httrack has a nice pretty wizard interface for the lazy among us (namely me!) :) |
| 23:35.44 | thebigdog | i think wget can spider too |
| 23:35.48 | bradym | it can |
| 23:36.20 | bradym | wget --html-extension --convert-links --mirror http://www.exampledomain.com |
| 23:36.47 | bradym | this was just discussed on thelist yesterday ;) |
| 23:37.14 | bradym | (evolt, not uphpu) |
| 23:37.18 | thebigdog | oh |
| 23:37.26 | thebigdog | i just use wget myself |
| 23:37.43 | wps | I love wget |
| 23:41.03 | bradym | I discovered httrack before I knew that wget could do that, and I haven't needed to do that since, so I haven't tried the wget method yet |
| 23:46.12 | wps | can you prepopulate a file field? |
| 23:48.34 | orsonj | doesn't look like it |
| 23:50.28 | wps | dang security conscious rule makers |
| 23:53.28 | orsonj | I can't get a value in there using html or javascript. |
| 23:53.46 | wps | yeah, I just read that it's not possible for security reasons |
| 23:53.47 | orsonj | probably a good thing though |
| 23:53.50 | wps | yeah |
| 23:54.16 | orsonj | don't want a file field prefilled, then hidden/disguised using fancy css. |
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