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00:04.34wpsthebigdog knows Mango
02:01.34influx^^Mango?
02:03.53influx^^ah
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04:38.24beandogey mindjuju
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14:34.32timinatorsup mindjuju
14:57.34timinator*yawn
14:57.48mindjujusup
14:58.30mindjujuhow was your weekend timinator
14:58.38timinatorgood
14:58.41timinatorworked hard
14:58.43timinatoron code
14:58.47timinatorwhat about you?
14:59.32mindjujutook the weekend off, usually work, but this one i spent family time and then worked a couple hours this morn
15:01.01mindjujubrb
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15:33.39timinatoranyone see this:  http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080113231632.1q3rt654&show_article=1
15:34.35timinatoryou can't name a teddy bear "Mohammed" but you can make a movie about an Islamic Jesus
15:34.42timinatorit's BS
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15:52.05timinatorthebigdog is in the house!!!
15:52.12timinator(he pays me to say that)
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16:09.16mindjujufor all you Napoleon Dynamite fans - meet the liger - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cowCS_OoDSY
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16:11.57mgearymorning
16:12.08mgearynice topic, mindjuju. looks good
16:12.13jsmithG'morning, all
16:12.25mindjujumorning mgeary
16:12.34mindjujuactually, it stemmed from you
16:12.39mgearyyeah, i guessed that
16:13.03mgearyi'll have to make it to that one, if only to razz the presenter about the deficiencies of Auth.net's Automated Recurring Billing system
16:13.13mindjujuheh
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16:21.29timinatorI'm stumped on a simple SQL subquery
16:21.43timinatorgot 2 tables, images and comments
16:22.01timinatorwant to pull 10 images w/ the most comments
16:23.04timinatorso, I'm doing a subquery.... but I can't remember how to use a field from the original query in the subquery
16:23.42jsmithtiminator: Do you want a subquery, or a join?
16:24.27timinatorSELECT id, name, (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM comments WHERE id=images.id) as count FROM images ORDER BY count LIMIT 10
16:24.32timinatorsomething like that
16:25.15timinatorbut I need to replace images.id w/ something that pulls the id from the images table
16:25.44timinatorno, not a join.... I would prefer to do a subquery
16:26.14timinatorif I do a join, I'll get a response for each comment.... would rather get a list of 10 images
16:26.53pelaofeliztiminator: would something like this work? SELECT id, name, count(comments.*) as comment_count FROM images inner join comments on comments.id = images.id GROUP BY images.id ORDER BY comment_count DESC LIMIT 1
16:27.01pelaofeliz...I think that's what jsmith is getting at...
16:27.14pelaofeliz...except limit 10 instead of limit 1
16:27.26timinatorI'll try it out
16:27.28jsmithExactly what I was getting at
16:27.50jsmithSee, this is why open source is so cool -- All I have to do is suggest a good idea, and someone else will do all the dirty work ;-)
16:35.31timinatorLOL
16:44.12pelaofeliztiminator: did that sql work out?
16:45.30timinatoractually, I'm helping someone else.... so he's still working on it
16:45.32timinator:)
16:45.56timinatorSee, this is why open source is so cool -- All I have to do is RELAY a good idea, and someone else will do all the dirty work ;-)
16:47.15timinatoryes, it worked perfectly
16:47.21timinatorThank you jsmith
16:48.51jsmithtiminator: Any time
16:49.14jsmithtiminator: Databases make me happy... now if I could just replace some things on my plate with some database work...
16:49.29timinatora further question.... can we get an if/else statement in there, so if there are not 10 images that include comments, it runs another query pulling more image entries?
16:50.02timinatoror would that be better served as a PHP function w/ another standard query?
16:50.47jsmithtiminator: Give us the whole story... do you want just the 10 ten images that include comments?  Or do you want the top ten images, but at least X of them need to have comments?
16:51.19timinatornope, neither
16:51.51timinator10 images w/ the most comments, if there's not 10, then pull images w/o comments to fill in the 10 spots
16:52.14pelaofelizthat query should already do it, I think
16:52.20pelaofelizoh
16:52.22pelaofelizI lie
16:52.24timinators/10 spots/remaining 10 spots/
16:52.27mgearyyou could do a limit with a union, perhaps
16:52.34pelaofelizchange the inner join to left outer, and it should work
16:52.57timinatorhmmm.... trying pelaofeliz
16:56.40timinatorworked perfectly pelaofeliz
16:56.43timinatorthank you guys
16:57.38timinatorreally appreciate you guys
16:57.59pelaofeliznae problemo
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17:18.17timinatorwhat's the name of that SQL table structure, where you have two primary keys that define the entry hierarchy  ..... best used for multi-dementional arrays
17:20.04jsmithtiminator: Huh?
17:21.01timinatorhmmm... I'll have to find an example, it's kind of confusing until you see it
17:23.00SunSparctiminator:  Are you talking about crossover table?  A table used to defined relationships between two other tables?
17:25.02timinatornope
17:25.15timinatorI'll give you a link once I remember the dang name of it
17:25.57SunSparc~nickometer
17:26.10SunSparc~nickometer _
17:26.22mindjuju^5 sunsparc
17:26.28mindjuju~nickometer mindjuju
17:26.29SunSparchehe
17:26.38mindjujuyup
17:26.50SunSparc~nickometer SunSparc
17:26.55SunSparcCool
17:27.26SunSparc~nickometer influx^^
17:27.38SunSparcSorry influx^^
17:27.41mindjujuyipes!
17:28.10SunSparc~piglatin It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
17:28.49SunSparclol
17:28.54timinatorlol
17:30.43timinatorahh... brasto comes through, that smart little terd:   http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/hierarchical-data.html
17:30.48timinatorluv ya brasto
17:30.55brastolol
17:31.20brastoI referenced that article in the udbug meeting last Thursday
17:31.43brastodidn't go over it much though, I only touched on it
17:31.48brastoit's a whole meeting by itself
17:32.24timinatorya, fo sho
17:32.27timinatorlook down at the section about Nested Set Modeling
17:32.33timinatorthat's what I was talking about
17:32.56timinatorthanks brasto
17:33.04brastoyw
17:33.52SunSparc~piglatin Nested Set Model
17:59.21wpscan a function return more than one thing?
17:59.25wpsI have two vars I need
17:59.33wpsdo I need to put them in an array? or can I return both?
17:59.34wpsexample:
17:59.38wpscan I do this?
17:59.46wpsfunction something() {
17:59.51wpsreturn $a;
17:59.53wpsreturn $b;
17:59.55wps}
18:00.02wpsor do I have to do:
18:00.15wps$var = array($a, $b);
18:00.18wpsreturn $var
18:00.18wps?
18:00.38SunSparcNo
18:00.49wpsno to which?
18:00.49SunSparcyou can only return 1
18:00.51wpsk
18:00.52wpsthanks
18:01.02jsmithwps: Unless you pass by reference
18:01.35wpswhat do you mean, jsmith?
18:01.35SunSparcOf course, you can have the function change values of global variables.
18:01.51jsmithwps: See http://us3.php.net/references and http://www.adp-gmbh.ch/php/pass_by_reference.html
18:02.08jsmithwps: In a nutshell, you pas your function the *address* of your array, and your function modifies the array
18:03.44SunSparcNot really the same as returning though.  But depending on your needs, you may not need to have anything returned aside from boolean values.
18:05.50jsmithYeah, I'm just throwing out another idea that may or may not fit what wps is trying to accomplish
18:07.46SunSparcusing reference can be really handy
18:09.35jsmithMmmmn... pointers and references.... just like grandma used to code
18:10.09SunSparcIf my grandma used to code, she would be even cooler than she already is.
18:15.09SunSparc~grandma
18:15.10jbotmethinks grandma is your mothers mother, or my grandma can code better than your grandma
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18:27.57PoeticIntensityLOL
18:28.03PoeticIntensitygrandma...
18:28.15PoeticIntensitycrap... Looks like I missed the first UDBUG meeting...
18:28.39PoeticIntensitysome reason, I missed the flyer...
18:29.12mindjujuare you coming this Thursday?
18:30.14PoeticIntensityI certainly hope so.
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18:34.26timinatorLOL
18:39.29timinatordo I have an odd sense of humor?!?!
18:39.53timinatormy sister was just talking about how she helps out at a home for unwed mothers
18:39.54brastoif you do, then I do to
18:40.07timinatorand I responded
18:40.10timinator*starts humming, "I need a man"*
18:40.30timinatorI thought it was funny
18:40.38timinator20 min later, she still doesn't get it
18:40.55timinator:)
18:40.59mindjujudon't think i know that song
18:41.03timinatorLOL
18:41.07mindjuju:)
18:41.12timinator:)
18:41.18timinator^5 mindjuju
18:41.23mindjuju^5
18:41.51timinatorsheesh
18:42.01josephscottmindjuju: you want to know something funny?
18:42.06timinatoryep
18:42.11mindjujuwhat up josephscott?
18:42.28josephscottI'm not leaving town until next week :-)
18:42.50mindjujuheh
18:43.31mindjujujosephscott -- PM sent
18:43.50josephscottyeah, do my responses get through?
18:44.11mindjujuoh yeah, i don't seem to
18:44.20josephscotttry me on skype
18:44.41mindjujuk, hang on
18:46.50josephscottit's the same as my nick here
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18:52.24SunSparcwps: you run a print shop?
18:52.58wpsno, but I design/produce/deliver
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18:53.08wps(have printers I use)
18:53.12SunSparcAh
18:53.23SunSparcYeah, I have seen your site before but forgot.
18:53.46macnewboldg'day, all
18:53.54wpshowdy, howdy, howdy
19:05.43timinatormornin' macnewbold
19:05.49mgearyany qmail users here?
19:05.54macnewboldhowdy, timinator
19:07.04thebigdoganyone know how the first db meeting went?
19:07.10thebigdogbrasto?
19:07.25thebigdogmgeary, only postfix bro
19:07.32thebigdogi have used qmail in the past?
19:08.08mgearyi'm a postfix user meself, but i need to debug a 554 error that i'm getting from a qmail receivingn server
19:08.58brastothebigdog: it was small, but it went fairly well.  I'm took some time out of the planned presentation to discuss where some would like to see udbug go, and to discuss my plans for the group.
19:09.14thebigdogmgeary, what you need help with
19:09.33thebigdogbrasto, what ideas you bouncing around?
19:09.34mgearythis is the qmail response:
19:09.43mgearyRemote host said: 554 sorry, invalid message content  (#5.3.2)
19:10.03mgearywhich translates to, "a badmimetype or badloadertype filter condition is met"
19:10.09mgearywhich doesn't really help me
19:11.01mgearyit appears i may need to add some headers to my outbound email
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19:30.09thebigdogmgeary, how did you set that up
19:30.30mgearysec
19:32.45mgearysorry
19:32.47mgearyhad kids on my lap
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19:33.41mgearyso, i'm sending a multipart email via Swift, a PHP email class
19:33.55mgearythat email is getting bounced in this particular case
19:37.53thebigdogmgeary, have you tested it with another email server?
19:38.05thebigdoghave you isolated it to a problem with qmail
19:38.22mgearyyeah, it works fine with other servers. possibly other qmail servers also
19:38.31mgearyit's this particular server, it seems
19:57.02PoeticIntensitysimple question which seemingly is very difficult to find via. google:
19:57.12PoeticIntensityWhat is the default window manager for XFCE4?
19:57.17PoeticIntensitydoes it use metacity?
19:57.34thebigdogxfce4 is a windows manager like metacity
19:57.40thebigdogmgeary, that is weird
19:58.01fungusPoeticIntensity: It has it's own.. xfwm4
19:58.07thebigdogmgeary, i would start with having it log everythign and then moving forward
19:58.10PoeticIntensitythanks, guys.... precisely what I was lookin' for.
19:58.28thebigdogPoeticIntensity, it is a really great windows manager
19:58.31thebigdogi use and abuse it
19:58.45mgearythebigdog: well, the qmail server isn't under my control. However, i've given up. I've told the client they should have that server admin contact me
19:58.53PoeticIntensityI'm using it too...
19:58.59thebigdogmgeary, yeah
19:59.00PoeticIntensityhowever, I'm running into a problem which shouldn't be a problem.
19:59.16PoeticIntensityI'm using dual monitors... and I'm trying to get each monitor to act on its own.
19:59.17thebigdogmgeary, if it works on other email servers you should be golden
19:59.25mgearyyeah
19:59.29PoeticIntensityI'm looking for xinerama, but the use flag isn't there.
19:59.30thebigdogPoeticIntensity, like what you mean?
19:59.42PoeticIntensityI don't want everything stretched...
19:59.43mgearythough there could be a well-formed aspect that i may be violating. Some servers may be more forgiving than others
19:59.45thebigdogPoeticIntensity, it should be there
19:59.55PoeticIntensityI want one X server, but two monitors... (if that makes sense.
19:59.56PoeticIntensity)
20:00.09PoeticIntensitythebigdog, yeah.. I've seen it, and I (for the life of me) can't find the option.
20:00.16thebigdogyeah and you want xinerama to strech it
20:00.30thebigdogwith xfce?
20:00.39PoeticIntensityyup.... but I did equery hasuse xinerama, and nothing in XFCE had it.
20:00.49PoeticIntensitywell... I *don't* want xinerama-like-effects.
20:00.59PoeticIntensityI want two separate (yet one X) monitors.
20:01.12PoeticIntensityas of now, it's acting like it has xinerama on.
20:01.13thebigdogoh then add another monitor to your x11 config
20:02.24PoeticIntensityI think I found it...
20:02.28PoeticIntensity"option xinerama on"
20:02.29PoeticIntensity:)
20:03.04thebigdogwhy would you not want dual stretch monitors?
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20:03.50PoeticIntensitybingo... that did it.
20:03.53PoeticIntensityThanks, thebigdog.
20:03.59thebigdognp
20:04.01PoeticIntensity(for getting me to look in xorg.conf)
20:08.23thebigdogits cool when you have 2 video cards and 2 monitors and then you do dual with them
20:08.33thebigdogthat has a great geek factor
20:08.53mgearyit's a lot less geek when you don't use Linux ;)
20:09.01mgearyit's kind of....normal
20:09.20mindjujuyeah, but what if you have two dual head?
20:09.35mgearywhat, 4 monitors?
20:09.40mindjujufor an ace-kickin' hawt 4 monitors
20:09.41mindjujuyeah
20:09.43mgearywoot
20:10.00mindjujudo i still get the non-linux penalty?
20:10.28fungusare all 4 monitors on 1 computer?
20:10.33mindjujuyeah
20:10.46thebigdogthat is very doable
20:10.49fungusOk you get 80% cred on that since it wasn't done in X
20:11.06fungus:)
20:11.10mindjuju:)
20:11.30mgearyspeaking of geek factor, my wife is at this very moment replacing the motor on our clothes dryer.
20:11.49funguswow, that's cool.
20:11.59mgearyyeah, we'll see if it works when she's done :)
20:12.02mindjujuspouse that knows tools... +3 mgeary
20:12.15timinatormgeary wife++
20:12.17mgearyif not, well then i guess we needed a new dryer, anyway, eh? :)
20:13.23timinatorjust that she's attempting it gives her some street creds
20:13.27mgearyexactly
20:13.37mgearyi wouldn't have even tried. i'd have called a repair person
20:13.47thebigdogi bought new ones
20:13.49thebigdoghehe
20:13.59mindjujuthe only thing better is a wife that is either: EE, mud wrestler, dresses as Bev Crusher or plays xbox
20:14.03thebigdogmotor when out on the washer
20:14.31mgearythebigdog: how old was it?
20:15.21thebigdogatleast 6yrs old
20:15.24thebigdogor 7
20:15.31thebigdogso i bought the new LG ones
20:15.33mgearyheh. that's exactly how old our dryer is
20:15.46thebigdogman they are expensive
20:15.51mgearyWhirlpool. i'd have expected a longer life
20:16.07thebigdogthe new ones are awesome
20:16.09mgearybut hey, maybe with a new $80 motor, we'll be set
20:16.16thebigdogyeah
20:16.23thebigdogdryers are easier...washers suck
20:16.29mgearyi'll bet
20:16.47thebigdogbut when it comes to that stuff the wife gets the best so i dont have to hear any complaints
20:17.06mgearyhence the "break the bank" Honda you recently bought ;)
20:17.20thebigdogyeah
20:17.29thebigdog$2700 for them both
20:17.29synicomg, macworld tomorrow
20:17.47timinatorLOL
20:17.53timinatorbuy apple stock then
20:18.16mgearyeeh. i'm not thinking they'll roll out anything shockingly new
20:18.20mgearybut hey, what do i know
20:18.31timinatorand it's already gone up 5.25
20:19.05synicI'm hoping for some new features on the iphone.
20:19.14mgearybah. iPhone
20:19.17thebigdogim waiting for prices to go down
20:19.58mgearywaaaaaay down
20:20.16thebigdogtell me about it
20:21.04fungusBut it's already at a comparable price to equivalent smart phones
20:21.16thebigdognot the iphone
20:21.30thebigdogmacbooks
20:21.41mgearyoh, i was talking about the iphone
20:21.55mgearymacbooks are a decent value
20:21.58mgearyimo
20:22.09fungusI just got one of these phones, but I don't really like it.
20:22.10thebigdogthey are too expensive still
20:22.11fungushttp://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/8525/
20:22.16thebigdogway to expensive
20:22.52synicmy office is getting me a bb curve.  I'm not sure what I'll do with the iphone... heh.
20:23.06synicI do like the ipod feature a lot, but the curve is pretty sweet.
20:23.32synichah
20:23.35thebigdogzume is nice...just dont like the ms background
20:23.44fungusI can't get my company to splurge for an iPhone until they come out with some "enterprise" email sync.
20:25.43mindjujufungus, that looks cool
20:25.54mindjujuwhat's the data plan run?
20:26.03fungusdon't know.  I don't pay for it.
20:26.40fungusIt's feature list is impressive, but Windows Mobile is ugly and painful.
20:43.03timinatorit's still on AT&T though.... yuck
20:46.56SunSparcIs that the email that that Captain Kirk uses?
20:56.33tierraand I love it
21:01.15SunSparcIt is cool looking.
21:01.29SunSparcDoes it fold open also?
21:01.34unumI think enterprise email = exchange
21:02.27SunSparcunum: Hmmm, definitely not Captain Kirk's ship.
21:03.32mgearyenterprise == "not free"
21:04.56tierraSunSparc: it's a bar phone, I can't stand flip phones, and I'm not too fond of sliders either really
21:05.28SunSparcmgeary:  That makes sense.
21:05.51SunSparctierra:  I am not a flip phone fan either.  Tried to talk my wife out of one but she digs them.
21:06.20tierraI probably wouldn't mind a slider too much, but I still like bar phones better
21:06.53timinatorever since the Motorola StarTac
21:07.04timinatorloved that phone
21:07.18timinatorhave a v360 now
21:07.44timinatorit's discontinued, but I like it better than anything I've seen in that same category
21:07.52SunSparcThis is the only "flip" phone I liked:  http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/nokia/6800/photo-1.html
21:07.54timinator** in the same category **
21:08.05SunSparcI had that before the iPhone
21:08.12SunSparcLoved it
21:08.15tierraweird
21:08.23timinatorthat's cool
21:08.49timinatorI'd love an iPhone, and could justify the expense, but I HATE AT&T with a passion
21:09.26timinator:0
21:09.28timinator:)
21:09.30timinatoroops
21:10.04mgearyi hate having a phone who's screen cracks because you're wearing it in a holster on your hip and you roll over on the ground while playing with your kids
21:10.13mgearythat was my first & last foray into the realm of smartphone
21:10.18SunSparcThere are some things about AT&T plans that I would like to change (like having free texting) but I have never had issues with their service.
21:10.20mgeary~americanexpress++
21:10.57timinatorI had an AT&T/Cingular phone for 2yrs.... had multiple probs w/ service
21:11.07timinator:(
21:11.17SunSparcSorry to hear that.
21:12.07tierraI was annoyed by the fact that AT&T supposedly allows you to sign up on a new contract with an existing phone (i.e. my purchase of an unlocked phone) without signing any contract, but they still forced me to sign onto a new 2-year to get an upgraded sim card so I could get 3G working on it
21:13.06SunSparcYeah, they aren't perfect by any means.
21:13.14SunSparcHas every seen these commercials:  http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/movies.html#h3jl0
21:13.21tierraI'm not sure I want to know how much my K850i goes for with a 2-year contract when AT&T finally releases it sometime in March/April
21:14.05tierraI bought it before AT&T had any announcement about supporting that phone, thinking that they were never going to support it
21:16.15SunSparc:)  Sound like the technology blues.
21:16.58tierraI was in desperate need of a new phone though, and waiting until March wasn't really an option anyway
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21:37.15PoeticIntensityI found this article on "how to recognize a good programmer"
21:37.19PoeticIntensitya pretty good read
21:37.21PoeticIntensityhttp://www.inter-sections.net/2007/11/13/how-to-recognise-a-good-programmer/
21:37.24PoeticIntensitylemme know what ya'll think.
21:48.41orsonjyes, I came across that the other day. Well, seeing as how I fit most of the points. I think it is pretty good.
22:16.26SunSparcGood article
22:19.08SunSparcI think I will add it to my blog
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22:35.19timinator.... reading PoeticIntensity's link
22:36.01timinatorcheck, check, double check, check, check
22:36.09PoeticIntensityokay.... I'm having a brainstump and I'm about to kill someone... :)
22:36.11timinator:)
22:36.23PoeticIntensityI'm getting the following error in PSQL:
22:36.31PoeticIntensityERROR:  column "categoryname" of relation "temp_products_2" does not exist
22:36.31PoeticIntensityLINE 1: INSERT INTO temp_products_2 (categoryname) VALUES ('Hello')
22:36.34herloPoeticIntensity: BrainFart, is the correct term
22:36.38PoeticIntensityLOL
22:36.46PoeticIntensityyes... yes... thank you herlo .
22:36.51herloPoeticIntensity: np
22:36.54herlo:)
22:37.12PoeticIntensitydoes that error mean "The column "categoryname" doesn't exist?
22:37.13timinatorDUCK herlo: he's got a piece
22:37.27PoeticIntensitybecause I've verified like a dozen times (through the console) that it indeed DOES!
22:37.47herlotiminator: A piece of what?
22:38.18PoeticIntensityany insight to help a poor programmer at his wits' end?
22:38.23SunSparcPoeticIntensity: That SQL statement looks fine to me.
22:38.25timinatorhe's armed..... never mind, sheesh
22:38.39PoeticIntensityI've only done SQL like that a friggin' million times.
22:39.01SunSparcIs there a possibility of a typo?
22:39.19pelaofelizPoeticIntensity: are you using a different database, or have a temporary table?
22:39.38PoeticIntensityno temp table, and it's in one db.
22:39.48PoeticIntensityI've tried it through phppgadmin and the console with the same results.
22:40.07PoeticIntensityevidently, it thinks the column doesn't exist, when both media verify that it does.
22:40.19mindjujutiminator - PM sent
22:40.28timinatorty mindjuju
22:40.33mindjuju:)
22:40.56PoeticIntensitygotta do it:
22:41.01PoeticIntensityAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
22:41.35herlotiminator: nice
22:42.02timinatorIt's too late now... the moment is gone
22:42.08timinator:)
22:44.28PoeticIntensityokay, get this:
22:44.38PoeticIntensitythe original name of the column was "CategoryName"...
22:44.50PoeticIntensityI dropped that column, and added another one named "category_name"
22:44.53PoeticIntensityand that fixed it...
22:44.57mindjuju~brainfart
22:45.05PoeticIntensityam I going mad?  Did I just find a bug?
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22:47.50pelaofelizPoeticIntensity: is it case sensitive for some reason?  Did you try it with matching cases?
22:48.17PoeticIntensityI tried it multiple times with matching cases.
22:48.21PoeticIntensityand non-matching cases.
22:49.50PoeticIntensitywait a second....
22:49.55SunSparcI think you are just going mad, in all senses of the word.
22:49.57PoeticIntensitythe error comes out with the text all lower-cased.
22:49.57SunSparc:)
22:50.15SunSparchehe
22:50.31PoeticIntensityit wouldn't be magically making the query lower-cased, would it?
22:50.46PoeticIntensityin both the console (psql) and via phppgadmin...
22:51.07mindjuju"am i going mad or did the word "think" come out of your mouth??  You were not hired for your brains!"
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22:51.34mindjujucome on mgeary, back me up here
22:51.44PoeticIntensityduh....
22:51.47PoeticIntensityPrincess Bride.
22:51.50mindjujuk
22:51.57mindjuju^5 PI
22:51.58PoeticIntensityok...
22:52.19mgearyAnybody want a peanut?
22:52.20PoeticIntensityIf I put double-quotes around the column name, it works.
22:52.35PoeticIntensityI guess pgsql auto-lower-cases everything.... which is slightly disturbing.
22:54.01pelaofelizmindjuju: you left off the best part: "...you hippopotamic land mass!"
22:54.26mindjujui'm going to have to watch that movie again pelaofeliz, my memory is going to pot
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22:54.53SunSparcmindjuju: you should lay off the weed.
22:55.08SunSparcOr, did you mean a different pot?
22:55.12herloSunSparc: mindjuju doesn't drink weed
22:55.33SunSparchehe
22:55.49mindjujui still remember though, the name of the guy that wesley inherited the pirate ship from
22:56.15mindjujuer, actually, it was the name of the guy who gave it to the guy who gave it to wesley
22:56.21herlomaybe
22:56.43mindjujuyeah, no drink weed
22:56.51herloit could have been the name of the guy who gave it to the guy who gave it to the guy who gave it to the guy... (ad nauseum)
22:57.16mindjujuwell, i don't know that far, i just know Wesley <-- Ryan <-- Cummerbund
22:57.59SunSparcThe real Dread Pirate Roberts is retired and living like a king in Patagonia.
22:58.42mindjuju^5 SunSparc
22:59.02mgearymindjuju: what, no creds for my peanut line??
22:59.12mgeary"Stop that rhyming now, i mean it!"
22:59.13mindjujudid you say the peanut line?
22:59.18mgeary"Anybody want a peanut?"
22:59.24mindjujurock on, bro!
22:59.27mgearysheesh
22:59.28mindjuju^5 mgeary
22:59.36mgearyokay, "find" question for yall
22:59.48mgearycheck out this listing:
22:59.54mgearyhttp://dpaste.com/31062/
23:00.19mgearynow, can anyone tell me why "find -mtime -40" doesn't list "products.xml" ??
23:00.32mgearyoh
23:00.33mgearydang
23:00.39mgearysorry. -mtime -50
23:00.42mgearyboy, time passes on
23:00.46mgearynevermind
23:01.56timinatormgeary: I got it... just wasn't reading till now
23:03.34timinatorlove that movie
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23:24.50orsonjsounds a lot more interesting, but not as relaxing.
23:24.50macnewboldfirst, you have to kill them
23:24.58macnewboldthen a nice slice down the belly, and you start peeling
23:25.13macnewbolda slice down each leg is probably required too
23:25.27macnewboldwhich can be a real pain if you've got a 7 -legged flex app
23:25.35SunSparcmacnewbold: Thanks for the tips.  :)  lol
23:25.44macnewboldhehe
23:32.27synicok, I've got ssl set up on a domain and the certificate is about to expire.  I just got a new cert in the mail from our provider, do I need to do anything other than just paste the cert into the cert file?
23:34.52SunSparcNo
23:35.00SunSparcWell...
23:35.28SunSparcYou need to decrypt it with the security key.
23:35.36SunSparcDepending on how you are using it.
23:35.53SunSparcBut you should not need to do anything with Apache
23:41.50syniccrap, all the docs out there are on "how to create your own self signed certificate"
23:45.19SunSparcsynic:  http://www.viaverio.com/index.cfm?page_id=589
23:46.33fungusThe cert the CA sends you is not encrypted, it is a public key essentially.
23:46.54fungusYour private key is in the same place and never gets transmitted anywhere else... evar!
23:47.55synicright, I have the private key... do I need to do something with it for this renewed cert?
23:50.30synicheh, nevermind.  I guess I just needed to paste it into the file.
23:50.51fungusright.  Just replace old cert with new cert.

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