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| 00:25.28 | thebigdog | wps you get an answer to your question? |
| 00:25.37 | wps | no |
| 00:25.39 | timinator | gotta run... later guys |
| 00:25.48 | thebigdog | use find and xargs with chmod |
| 00:25.59 | wps | what about files added afterwards? |
| 00:25.59 | thebigdog | find . -type d -name 'dirname*' | xargs chmod 775 |
| 00:26.16 | thebigdog | find . -type f -name '*.pdf' | xargs chmod 664 |
| 00:26.33 | thebigdog | that is how i do it |
| 00:26.57 | thebigdog | use can use regex and other things with find |
| 00:27.19 | thebigdog | find . -type f -name '*.pdf' -o -name '*.ps' | xargs chmod 664 |
| 00:27.53 | thebigdog | for new files you need to check out umask |
| 00:28.01 | thebigdog | and new directories created |
| 00:28.09 | thebigdog | umask will assign the default perms |
| 00:28.16 | wps | No manual entry for unmask |
| 00:28.30 | wps | ah… typo |
| 00:29.12 | thebigdog | so at the cli type umask and see what yours is |
| 00:29.24 | wps | 0022 |
| 00:29.33 | thebigdog | in apache you will need to setup the env with umask probably |
| 00:29.52 | thebigdog | you can test that by creating a file |
| 00:29.56 | thebigdog | touch test.txt |
| 00:30.21 | thebigdog | should have perms 0644 |
| 00:30.38 | wps | -rw-r--r-- |
| 00:30.44 | thebigdog | yep |
| 00:31.01 | thebigdog | that is correct for the umask |
| 00:31.16 | thebigdog | gotta run |
| 00:31.26 | thebigdog | call me if you have other questions and no one can help |
| 00:31.32 | wps | thanks |
| 00:31.33 | thebigdog | but i think there are some here that can |
| 00:31.46 | jsmith | wps: I'll be around for another few minutes if you need more help w/ it |
| 00:32.08 | wps | I have files that are rsync'd from one server to another |
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| 00:32.31 | jsmith | wps: And they're not preserving their permissions? |
| 00:32.38 | wps | wait… scratch that |
| 00:33.04 | wps | I check files out of SVN onto a staging server want to ensure that they are not executable |
| 00:33.24 | jsmith | OK... |
| 00:33.37 | jsmith | And I'm assuming you're doing an "svn export" so that the .svn directories don't stay around |
| 00:33.39 | wps | (checked out right into web root) |
| 00:33.44 | jsmith | Doh! |
| 00:33.49 | jsmith | "svn export" is safer |
| 00:34.12 | wps | when I rsync to production, I exclude the .svn dirs |
| 00:34.20 | wps | so they are on staging, but not on production |
| 00:34.25 | wps | (which I'm fine with) |
| 00:35.09 | jsmith | That works... but now you know about "svn export" |
| 00:35.25 | wps | yeah |
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| 00:36.21 | wps | does SVN preserve permissions? if I can guarantee what the permissions of the file are when the file is created, will it be the same when I check it back out? |
| 00:41.53 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 00:42.58 | wps | nope, SVN doesn't preserve permissions |
| 00:44.28 | jsmith | wps: I think you have to set the svn:executable setting on any files you want to have as executable |
| 00:45.06 | wps | my test was that I chmod'd a file to 777, checked it in, and then checked it back out |
| 00:45.33 | wps | it came back out as 755 |
| 00:45.39 | wps | so that's user and group executable |
| 00:46.31 | wps | I want it _not_ to be executable by anyone (well, at least not be user, which is httpd) |
| 00:51.21 | macnewbold | if you put it in as 644 it probably won't come out any higher than 644 (ie non-executable) |
| 00:51.57 | beandog | svn preserves permissions |
| 00:52.03 | beandog | it preserves theo riginal ones you checked a file in as. |
| 00:52.18 | wps | didn't for the test I just ran |
| 00:52.24 | wps | I checked it in as 777 and it came back out as 755 |
| 00:52.25 | beandog | which is annoying. |
| 00:53.10 | jsmith | wps: do "svn proplist file_I_care_about" |
| 00:53.19 | jsmith | wps: Does it have the "svn:executable" property? |
| 00:53.43 | wps | svn proplist file.txt returned nothing |
| 00:53.47 | mgeary | later folks |
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| 00:57.57 | jsmith | wps: This is on the checked-out file? |
| 00:58.01 | jsmith | wps: That's totally weird |
| 00:58.25 | wps | yeah |
| 00:59.00 | jsmith | It's probably something with the umask then |
| 00:59.14 | jsmith | What's your umask set to? |
| 00:59.15 | wps | I'll submit a NOC ticket :) |
| 00:59.20 | jsmith | wps: AWESOME! |
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| 01:51.21 | wps | k… so I thought I had this all figured out but then noticed that none of these files are executable |
| 01:51.50 | wps | I thought that a script file (such as one containing PHP code) had to be executable in order to be served up |
| 01:53.20 | wps | does the executable permission only apply to executing things from the command line and not what Apache can and cannot server? |
| 01:53.26 | wps | s/server/serve/ |
| 01:58.23 | influx^^ | /w/w 7 |
| 02:01.52 | wps | what's that? |
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| 02:05.36 | influx^^ | i was trying to change windows in irssi |
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| 06:01.13 | olds | from #php on efnet .... 21:56 < Scott0> how do you turn a negative number into a positive one? |
| 06:08.31 | olds | what's the talk on this month? |
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| 16:23.46 | mindjuju | sup timinator |
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| 16:24.18 | timinator | sup mindjuju |
| 16:54.02 | influx^^ | 177 trillion? |
| 16:54.05 | influx^^ | Wow! |
| 16:54.09 | mindjuju | 1.77 |
| 16:54.14 | influx^^ | err, yeah. |
| 16:54.16 | mindjuju | but that is still a lot |
| 16:54.19 | influx^^ | wrotten period |
| 16:54.23 | influx^^ | decimal |
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| 17:08.43 | thebigdog | wps you get your command worked out? |
| 17:08.55 | wps | yeah |
| 17:08.56 | wps | thanks |
| 17:09.21 | thebigdog | np |
| 17:09.34 | thebigdog | what a tragic song |
| 17:10.16 | timinator | I'm not really motivated today |
| 17:10.26 | timinator | just want to go play in the snow |
| 17:10.31 | timinator | :( |
| 17:10.51 | mindjuju | i heard it snowed a ton in ogden |
| 17:11.03 | timinator | 2 feet in my driveway |
| 17:11.07 | thebigdog | tons in layton |
| 17:11.10 | mindjuju | yipes |
| 17:11.23 | timinator | and that's w/o the junk they dumped on me from the road itself |
| 17:11.41 | timinator | the end of my driveway was terrible |
| 17:12.03 | timinator | I cleared it in stages |
| 17:12.06 | mindjuju | timinator - buddy of mine sent me this link, it'll put a smile back on your face |
| 17:12.42 | mindjuju | THOUGH! you have to first look at the picture, and try to figure out what is being said, when you finally give up, read the text above it. but try to figure it out from the picture - http://community.livejournal.com/wtf_inc/4894446.html |
| 17:13.28 | timinator | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 17:13.47 | timinator | I didn't even have to read the text |
| 17:13.49 | timinator | LOL |
| 17:13.58 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 17:14.02 | timinator | too funny |
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| 17:15.10 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 17:32.41 | beandog | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Could-You-Explain-Programming-Please.aspx |
| 17:33.40 | mindjuju | now that is funny |
| 17:37.34 | thebigdog | that last comment is great |
| 17:38.51 | mindjuju | mgeary, you don't like authorize.net? |
| 17:38.57 | mgeary | i do |
| 17:39.02 | mindjuju | have only worked with them twice, but was pleasant |
| 17:39.06 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:39.34 | mgeary | but i'm finding that their Automated Recurring Billing system, which seemed like *exactly* what we wanted, isn't what we want |
| 17:39.48 | mgeary | it doesn't have a way to automatically collect transaction results |
| 17:39.51 | mindjuju | oh |
| 17:39.57 | mgeary | which kind of defeats the purpose |
| 17:40.03 | mgeary | you have to use their merchant interface |
| 17:40.05 | mgeary | which kind of defeats the purpose |
| 17:40.21 | mgeary | beandog: that's a great link |
| 17:41.50 | mgeary | so we'll use their CIM instead |
| 17:41.54 | mindjuju | ~APB macnewbold |
| 17:41.54 | jbot | ACTION hires Leland to stake out macnewbold |
| 17:44.53 | mgeary | brasto: so, meeting tonight, right? |
| 17:45.32 | beandog | Usually when someone starts the conversation with "are you good with computers?", I expect it to go downhill. |
| 17:45.37 | mgeary | heh |
| 17:45.41 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:45.52 | pelaofeliz | is anybody very familiar with PHP SOAP (a la SoapServer)? |
| 17:45.55 | mgeary | that's one of the great things about being a Mac fanboy. I can just say, "oh, i don't know anything about Windows" |
| 17:46.13 | beandog | or a linux nerd. |
| 17:46.15 | mgeary | pelaofeliz: i've done some Soap requests before, but it's been a while |
| 17:46.18 | beandog | its great |
| 17:46.22 | beandog | I can honestly say I have no idea how to use Word |
| 17:49.43 | pelaofeliz | I'm trying to figure out a way to prevent lots of code duplication in my SOAP code -- I can't see a way to prevent having to do the same stuff in each SOAP function... |
| 17:49.47 | wps | what language is spoken in Singapore? |
| 17:49.51 | mgeary | wps: english |
| 17:50.00 | wps | thanks |
| 17:50.59 | mgeary | and Malay and Tamil |
| 17:51.09 | mgeary | probably some Chinese as well (Mandarin?) |
| 17:51.24 | mgeary | but the official language is English |
| 17:51.31 | mgeary | heh. like India |
| 17:51.57 | pelaofeliz | https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sn.html is always useful for stuff like that |
| 17:55.05 | pelaofeliz | ...looks like Mandarin has 35%, English 23%, then various other Chinese dialects after that. |
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| 18:31.04 | SunSparc | http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b776c00c54 |
| 18:35.49 | brasto | mgeary, yes, first udbug meeting tonight |
| 18:44.35 | brasto | I have a few rsvps for the meeting. Anyone planning to come that has not already let me know? |
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| 19:53.54 | mgeary | brasto: i'm not yet sure whether i can come |
| 19:57.57 | timinator | brasto: can you stream the meeting? or make an audio recording available for download? |
| 20:01.03 | brasto | I'm not sure if I'll have that capability yet. Probably not for the first meeting, but I'm looking into it. I'll create a web-viewable presentation though. |
| 20:02.29 | brasto | above answer was for timinator |
| 20:03.20 | timinator | TY |
| 20:03.47 | brasto | ~give mgeary some free time and super-speedy transportation |
| 20:03.48 | jbot | ACTION gives some free time and super-speedy transportation to mgeary |
| 20:03.55 | brasto | there, now mgeary can come |
| 20:04.14 | mgeary | whew |
| 20:04.14 | brasto | if only things were that easy |
| 20:04.25 | brasto | jbot, pay my medical bills |
| 20:04.26 | jbot | ACTION forks over medical bills. Here you go, my. It's been a pleasure doing business with you. |
| 20:04.27 | timinator | seriously |
| 20:04.38 | timinator | ~give timinator a clone |
| 20:04.39 | jbot | ACTION gives a clone to timinator |
| 20:04.47 | timinator | thank you jbot |
| 20:04.48 | brasto | doh! that's the opposite of what I wanted, jbot. |
| 20:05.06 | brasto | ~give timinator a copy of multiplicity, the movie. |
| 20:05.06 | jbot | ACTION gives a copy of multiplicity, the movie. to timinator |
| 20:05.24 | timinator | ya, that was a funny flik |
| 20:05.51 | brasto | it's been a while since I've seen it, but it was funny. |
| 20:07.28 | timinator | same here |
| 20:12.01 | mindjuju | ~APB timinator |
| 20:12.02 | jbot | ACTION summons Tim to find timinator |
| 20:12.18 | timinator | back |
| 20:12.20 | timinator | PM |
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| 20:12.42 | mindjuju | did you get my PM back? |
| 20:13.05 | timinator | y |
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| 20:14.03 | timinator | whew, I feel better now that I've got that off of my chest |
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| 20:16.37 | timinator | well, hello kittypee |
| 20:16.58 | kittypee | good morning |
| 20:19.43 | timinator | I send out an HTML newsletter every so often. I'm looking to add something to one of the images that load off my webserver, so that I can record who is loading the email, when, and how frequently. Any ideas on how to do that? |
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| 20:21.16 | mgeary | that's pretty easy |
| 20:21.21 | timinator | ya? |
| 20:21.24 | mgeary | though most email programs allow you to not load images |
| 20:21.29 | timinator | right |
| 20:21.32 | timinator | I realize that |
| 20:21.52 | mgeary | all you need to do is have a PHP script that outputs a 1x1 gif, but accepts as input parameters your tracking info |
| 20:21.56 | timinator | so the numbers will be estimates |
| 20:22.06 | mgeary | and in the email have: |
| 20:22.24 | mgeary | <img src='myserver.com/path/to/tracker_gif.php?source_id=12345'> |
| 20:23.09 | timinator | oh, of course |
| 20:23.11 | timinator | ok |
| 20:23.12 | timinator | cool |
| 20:23.15 | timinator | thanks man |
| 20:23.24 | mgeary | yep |
| 20:23.24 | bradym | along with what mgeary mentioned, in the newsletters we send out we do an issue=date_sent as part of the link to the articles so we can distinguish traffic to newsletters from organic traffic to the newsletters |
| 20:23.39 | fungus | Or just have the request for the real image record the tracking info + send the real image to the client. |
| 20:24.16 | fungus | skip the 1px image. |
| 20:24.17 | bradym | with that we can also track them through our site and analyze if the newsletter is getting enougn traffic to be worth sending |
| 20:24.20 | timinator | fungus: with some apache magic? |
| 20:24.28 | mgeary | yeah, you could use mod_rewrite |
| 20:24.38 | fungus | not necessary |
| 20:24.39 | timinator | gotcha |
| 20:24.54 | timinator | bradym: good idea |
| 20:25.15 | fungus | Just have your PHP file output the correct Mime type and the data of the image you want to output |
| 20:25.23 | bradym | at the end of your script, set image headers then do a readfile(img).. |
| 20:25.29 | bradym | what fungus just said :) |
| 20:25.30 | fungus | exactly |
| 20:26.02 | timinator | that's a bit over my head.... do you have an example you could pass over? |
| 20:26.04 | fungus | You could use some Apache magic to make the URL look pretty. |
| 20:26.22 | bradym | ~pastebin |
| 20:26.23 | jbot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 20:26.43 | timinator | BRB |
| 20:28.45 | fungus | http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.readfile.php#76850 |
| 20:29.12 | bradym | timinator: very simple, just two lines: http://rafb.net/p/JtQcZ650.html |
| 20:29.42 | mgeary | timinator: these suggests just allow you to relay an image, rather than using something like GD to output an image. It's the same theory |
| 20:29.53 | mgeary | which is a better idea |
| 20:30.25 | fungus | Sending a Content-Type header, and using readfile is really simple |
| 20:30.36 | fungus | no GD necessary. |
| 20:30.39 | bradym | yeah, if it's something static and simple might as well use a real image.. personally i'd only ever use gd for an image if that image was based on some calculations or something |
| 20:31.17 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:31.22 | timinator | back |
| 20:31.57 | timinator | bradym: very cool |
| 20:32.14 | timinator | very cool guys |
| 20:32.51 | timinator | right... this already is a static image, so no biggie |
| 20:33.22 | fungus | With some mod_rewrite you could even make the URL pretty and look less like a tracking bug. |
| 20:33.46 | timinator | what do you suggest fungus? |
| 20:34.15 | mgeary | having an image src be "*.php" is a sure giveaway |
| 20:34.17 | fungus | some URL like this http://www.myserver.com/promo/53231/deal.jpg |
| 20:34.29 | mgeary | fungus is talking about masquerading the php file with a different extension |
| 20:34.31 | fungus | The number can be a unique identifier |
| 20:34.35 | fungus | Exactly |
| 20:34.46 | timinator | gotcha |
| 20:35.24 | timinator | how would the mod_rewrite itself look? |
| 20:36.21 | mgeary | timinator: now you're getting into deeper waters.... :) |
| 20:36.37 | mgeary | mod_rewrite has been compared to sendmail |
| 20:36.48 | fungus | http://rafb.net/p/VDj22m25.html |
| 20:36.55 | timinator | yes.... but I've done a couple and they've worked... just not as good at them |
| 20:37.04 | mgeary | yeah, see fungus' post |
| 20:37.08 | fungus | mod_rewrite can be ugly, but it isn't too bad |
| 20:37.13 | timinator | see.... fungus rocks |
| 20:37.16 | timinator | ya |
| 20:37.17 | mgeary | it's easy to screw up, though |
| 20:37.28 | timinator | ya |
| 20:37.37 | bradym | very true |
| 20:38.12 | olds | RewriteRule ^promo/(.*)/deal.jpg image.php?id=$1 |
| 20:38.19 | olds | vaguely like that, although I know that's wrong |
| 20:44.09 | timinator | so, the () become vars automatically? |
| 20:44.18 | timinator | $1 $2 etc |
| 20:44.21 | mgeary | they're backreferences |
| 20:44.33 | timinator | oh, like printf |
| 20:44.36 | timinator | or something |
| 20:44.39 | fungus | yeah, just like preg_replace |
| 20:44.50 | timinator | gotcha |
| 20:45.00 | timinator | using regex inside |
| 20:46.08 | timinator | so, domain.com/promo/1234/jack.jpg would pull file domain.com/track.php?id=1234&image=jack.jpg |
| 20:46.12 | timinator | right? |
| 20:46.12 | fungus | if you want to go crazy with all kinds of other pretty URLs and rewriting, this guide is an absolute must. |
| 20:46.14 | fungus | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html |
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| 20:46.26 | olds | if you set it up that way |
| 20:46.31 | fungus | exactly |
| 20:46.53 | timinator | yes, i've studied that page to make other mod_rewrites |
| 20:47.00 | timinator | just not fluent yet |
| 20:47.01 | mgeary | did much/anything change from Apache 1.3 to Apache 2? |
| 20:47.15 | olds | for mod_rewrite? |
| 20:47.17 | fungus | Not much in mod_rewrite |
| 20:47.27 | olds | I don't know that anything changed |
| 20:47.32 | fungus | but authentication was completely reworked. |
| 20:47.39 | fungus | it is a lot more powerful now |
| 20:47.50 | mgeary | oh yeah? tantalize us? |
| 20:48.00 | timinator | BRB |
| 20:48.04 | mgeary | there's your presentation topic, mindjuju: authentication in Apache 2.x |
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| 21:29.25 | PoeticIntensity | yo, any of you MSSQL gurus out there.... |
| 21:29.38 | PoeticIntensity | any ideas on how to open an MSSQL backup (.bak) file in Linux? |
| 21:29.48 | PoeticIntensity | even asking that question makes me feel dirty... |
| 21:29.48 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:30.40 | thebigdog | mssql is microsoft no |
| 21:30.54 | beandog | You dont open it |
| 21:30.56 | beandog | you just restore it |
| 21:30.58 | beandog | You have to make a new database |
| 21:31.02 | beandog | and then restore from that file |
| 21:31.16 | PoeticIntensity | I don't have MSSQL - nor does anyone in this company. |
| 21:31.34 | thebigdog | then that is the problem |
| 21:31.46 | PoeticIntensity | so.... we're screwed, unless we get the stupid company to give us a text dump, or something. |
| 21:31.51 | beandog | yah |
| 21:31.56 | beandog | but mssql doesnt really let you make SQL dumps. |
| 21:32.07 | thebigdog | or someone like mindjuju to open it up for you |
| 21:32.22 | mindjuju | i wonder if you can get a trial and install it, restore, extract and then blow away |
| 21:32.25 | thebigdog | but you can pull in the data and stuff into excel |
| 21:32.30 | beandog | probably. |
| 21:32.46 | mindjuju | or, i wonder if ms sql express can open an ms sql database |
| 21:32.47 | beandog | excel would drop all the advanced db stuff though |
| 21:32.51 | beandog | but you would get the data. |
| 21:32.56 | beandog | I dunno if express lets you restore databases. |
| 21:33.03 | mindjuju | yeah, not sure |
| 21:33.10 | mindjuju | don't use express since i have enterprise |
| 21:33.28 | beandog | yah |
| 21:33.37 | beandog | mssql doesnt even have an export to SQL functionality |
| 21:33.40 | beandog | kinda dumb. |
| 21:34.19 | thebigdog | you could see if there is a data integration too that can do it for ya |
| 21:35.05 | beandog | third party? |
| 21:35.06 | beandog | yah |
| 21:35.11 | beandog | Im sure theres something. |
| 21:35.13 | beandog | maybe. |
| 21:35.40 | beandog | I guess Im not sure. |
| 21:35.48 | beandog | I remember "backups" in mssql were a royal pain. |
| 21:35.48 | PoeticIntensity | I sure hope so... |
| 21:35.49 | PoeticIntensity | okay... |
| 21:35.57 | beandog | It basically consisted of dumping a .bak file then writing it to a tape drive. |
| 21:35.59 | PoeticIntensity | I asked our helpdesk guy, and I now have in my hands a version of MSSQL 2000 |
| 21:36.15 | beandog | yah, just make sure youre running the same version they are |
| 21:36.20 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 21:36.22 | PoeticIntensity | I have no idea.... *no* idea. |
| 21:36.31 | beandog | wont work otherwise. |
| 21:36.37 | mindjuju | if they did it in ms sql 2k5, you're going to have issues |
| 21:36.38 | beandog | theres 2000 and 2007, I think. |
| 21:36.46 | beandog | oh is it 2005? |
| 21:36.48 | beandog | ok |
| 21:36.51 | mindjuju | nah, 6.5, 7, 2k and 2k5 |
| 21:36.55 | PoeticIntensity | k |
| 21:36.56 | beandog | thats right |
| 21:37.02 | PoeticIntensity | so there's a 1 in 2 chance I've got hte right version. |
| 21:37.10 | PoeticIntensity | (they wouldn't have anything less than 2000) |
| 21:37.24 | beandog | yah |
| 21:37.30 | mindjuju | @ beandog , at least those are the version that i have street cred for! |
| 21:37.32 | PoeticIntensity | man.... I feel just sick that I actually have to install this crap. |
| 21:37.33 | beandog | 2005 is pretty new, I dont think many people have it |
| 21:39.38 | PoeticIntensity | k |
| 21:39.55 | PoeticIntensity | any idea if access might be able to open / handle it? |
| 21:40.04 | PoeticIntensity | Excel won't support that many rows. |
| 21:40.25 | beandog | does smbfs let you use a credentials file or is that only with cifs |
| 21:40.36 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, no you still have to restore it |
| 21:40.56 | beandog | Access can access a running mssql db |
| 21:41.04 | beandog | but the formats are completely different |
| 21:41.06 | PoeticIntensity | beautiful... |
| 21:41.10 | PoeticIntensity | I couldn't care less about formats... |
| 21:41.13 | PoeticIntensity | All I need is the data. |
| 21:41.27 | PoeticIntensity | I'm 99% sure they borked the table structures as well, so I'll be re-creating all of that from scratch. |
| 21:41.36 | PoeticIntensity | all I need is the data. |
| 21:42.12 | PoeticIntensity | crap... |
| 21:42.21 | PoeticIntensity | MSSQL won't allow me to install the server on my laptop.... |
| 21:42.22 | PoeticIntensity | bah. |
| 21:42.47 | PoeticIntensity | only the "client tools", which probably means "stuff that won't restore your crud". |
| 21:42.57 | beandog | right. |
| 21:43.03 | beandog | you need the whole server |
| 21:43.06 | mindjuju | yeah, client tools means Enterprise manager |
| 21:43.10 | beandog | yahp |
| 21:43.12 | mindjuju | and books online and stuff |
| 21:43.15 | beandog | and Query Analyzer |
| 21:43.18 | beandog | or whatever its called. |
| 21:43.21 | mindjuju | yea |
| 21:43.30 | mindjuju | nope, that's it, Query Analyzer |
| 21:43.43 | beandog | its been a while. |
| 21:43.45 | mindjuju | ~APB utah_dave |
| 21:43.45 | jbot | ACTION calls Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at utah_dave |
| 21:43.54 | beandog | I do remember they each had their own different SQL bugs. |
| 21:44.19 | jsmith | ~sing to beandog |
| 21:44.31 | jsmith | ~sing |
| 21:44.31 | jbot | "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" |
| 21:45.02 | mindjuju | sup jsmith |
| 21:45.07 | mindjuju | how's virginia today? |
| 21:45.23 | jsmith | mindjuju: I'm in Alabama, in the middle of a thunderstorm |
| 21:45.40 | jsmith | mindjuju: Might miss my flight this evening due to a tornado watch |
| 21:46.00 | mindjuju | jsmith - have you by chance heard / done business with Progrexion |
| 21:46.17 | jsmith | mindjuju: Yup... |
| 21:46.36 | PoeticIntensity | okay.... |
| 21:46.42 | PoeticIntensity | I now have a "personal edition" of mssql. |
| 21:46.48 | PoeticIntensity | let's see if this will install on my laptop. |
| 21:46.56 | beandog | what version? |
| 21:47.01 | PoeticIntensity | 2000 |
| 21:47.33 | PoeticIntensity | beautiful... it works. |
| 21:50.01 | PoeticIntensity | beandog couldn't take the pressure. |
| 21:50.02 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:50.40 | orsonj | heh |
| 21:50.45 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) |
| 21:50.59 | PoeticIntensity | 82% done. |
| 21:54.26 | timinator | anyone have positive or negative feedback of FlashPoint? |
| 21:54.33 | timinator | it's a Flash house in Park City |
| 22:00.29 | PoeticIntensity | okay.... |
| 22:00.35 | PoeticIntensity | I've now got 2000 installed. (MSSQL) |
| 22:00.43 | PoeticIntensity | any ideas on how to get my .bak file inside the server? |
| 22:02.33 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: what's up? |
| 22:03.11 | mindjuju | utah_dave PM sent |
| 22:05.43 | bradym | odd.. winamp crashed but my cd is still playing somehow |
| 22:14.00 | fungus | playing a cd normally uses the internal audio cable in the computer. |
| 22:14.14 | fungus | winamp just controls the playback, and is not needed to keep it playing |
| 22:14.38 | mindjuju | that reminds me of a funny story |
| 22:15.12 | mindjuju | when i worked at eBay many moons ago, a coworker of mine was trying to listen to music of the CD player. wouldn't work, don't you know. |
| 22:15.42 | mindjuju | so, that person calls IT and IT comes down and cracks open the box, yup, audio CD cable there, checks device manager, yup, drivers there |
| 22:15.51 | mindjuju | tries to update drivers, etc, nope, no audio |
| 22:16.06 | mindjuju | decides sound card bad, goes and replaces |
| 22:16.12 | mindjuju | updates drivers, no audio |
| 22:16.23 | mindjuju | says he's going to have to replace the box, and gets up to leave |
| 22:16.31 | mgeary | volume? |
| 22:16.33 | mindjuju | i yell across, hey, did you make sure audio not muted |
| 22:16.35 | mindjuju | yup, it was |
| 22:16.40 | mgeary | heh |
| 22:16.40 | fungus | rofl |
| 22:18.08 | mindjuju | PI, how is that backup coming |
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| 22:22.37 | mindjuju | well, i'll prolly be around my desk late, so IM if you have questions |
| 22:22.47 | PoeticIntensity | k |
| 22:22.53 | PoeticIntensity | I'm figuring out how to "restore" a db.... |
| 22:22.57 | PoeticIntensity | looks like I finally got it working. |
| 22:22.59 | PoeticIntensity | yup.. |
| 22:23.04 | PoeticIntensity | the progress bar is actually moving. |
| 22:23.18 | PoeticIntensity | my boss says that MSSQL 2000 can export to a CSV... is that right? |
| 22:23.23 | mindjuju | coolio. which version did it wind up to be? |
| 22:23.24 | mindjuju | oh 2k |
| 22:23.27 | PoeticIntensity | yup |
| 22:23.39 | PoeticIntensity | (personal edition), so it would install on my lappy |
| 22:24.07 | mindjuju | yeah, though if i recall the option to get CSV out of ms sql was through Data Transformation Services (DTS) |
| 22:24.23 | mindjuju | been a little while since i used 2k |
| 22:24.25 | PoeticIntensity | ok... |
| 22:24.29 | PoeticIntensity | what version you on? |
| 22:24.33 | PoeticIntensity | 2005? |
| 22:24.40 | mindjuju | yup, 2k5 |
| 22:32.29 | mgeary | "'cause there aint no one for to give you no pain..." |
| 22:41.14 | PoeticIntensity | dems good eenglish. |
| 22:41.40 | mgeary | hey, it was the 70s |
| 22:41.58 | PoeticIntensity | good song, though. |
| 22:43.01 | PoeticIntensity | I've gotta sift through 50 megs worth of tables / data given to me in an MSSQL restore file. |
| 22:43.13 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:43.26 | PoeticIntensity | figure out what's necessary, create a PGSQL table for it, import it, and dump the rest. |
| 22:43.34 | thebigdog | im have to give my boss a 2 week notice |
| 22:43.39 | PoeticIntensity | wha...!?!? |
| 22:43.43 | PoeticIntensity | thebigdog got another gig? |
| 22:43.49 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:43.57 | mindjuju | wow |
| 22:43.57 | PoeticIntensity | thumbs up, thumbs down? |
| 22:44.02 | mgeary | gotta beup |
| 22:44.06 | PoeticIntensity | c'mon, man, spare no details! |
| 22:44.06 | mindjuju | when do you give notice, now or already given? |
| 22:46.09 | thebigdog | i will give it today |
| 22:46.14 | thebigdog | i received my offer |
| 22:46.50 | thebigdog | time to move on i feel |
| 22:46.57 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 22:47.02 | PoeticIntensity | congrats, thebigdog ... |
| 22:47.05 | PoeticIntensity | you stayin' up north? |
| 22:47.15 | mindjuju | yeah for thebigdog! |
| 22:47.24 | thebigdog | yeah i will have to go to bountiful is all |
| 22:47.25 | mindjuju | you getting a little extra green in your pocket? |
| 22:47.27 | thebigdog | and telecommuting |
| 22:47.33 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:47.34 | bradym | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.35 | thebigdog | not much |
| 22:47.52 | mindjuju | rock on! you know the uphpu rules! if you get a raise, you gots to treat us to lunch! |
| 22:47.52 | PoeticIntensity | ~applaud thebigdog |
| 22:47.53 | jbot | ACTION pins thebigdog to the wall with steak knives, then gives thebigdog a hanging ovation |
| 22:47.54 | thebigdog | i have been doing consulting for this company for 5 years |
| 22:48.00 | thebigdog | so they want me to come on full tiem |
| 22:48.16 | PoeticIntensity | nice... |
| 22:48.20 | PoeticIntensity | relatively low risk, I take it... |
| 22:48.27 | thebigdog | i have pretty much set up their entire company and now they want me to come in and really automate their processes |
| 22:49.13 | bradym | cool.. sounds like a good move |
| 22:49.48 | thebigdog | im excited about it |
| 22:50.01 | thebigdog | means more work for me...and i love to keep really busy |
| 22:50.16 | thebigdog | and i know most of the people there' |
| 22:50.20 | thebigdog | management wise |
| 22:50.51 | bradym | yeah, i was gonna say, having done that much consulting you're probably already a pretty integral part of the company anyways so this will make that more "official" :) |
| 22:51.22 | thebigdog | yep |
| 22:51.49 | thebigdog | changing jobs though sucks |
| 22:52.00 | thebigdog | this job has been really good to me...just very slow and boring |
| 22:52.18 | thebigdog | i have learned a lot |
| 22:52.54 | PoeticIntensity | you need to write a book on PGSQL, bud. |
| 22:53.00 | PoeticIntensity | I'd read it. |
| 22:53.08 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:53.16 | thebigdog | jsmith thinks i should too |
| 22:53.16 | mindjuju | i'd use it when i go camping |
| 22:53.21 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:53.23 | thebigdog | ty mindjuju |
| 22:53.34 | mindjuju | dude, you know i know you gots the skillz |
| 22:53.46 | thebigdog | yeah you do |
| 22:54.10 | thebigdog | my fear is that this project will fall apart |
| 22:54.15 | thebigdog | and i dont want that |
| 22:54.51 | thebigdog | there are some peps here that are killing me "softly" though |
| 22:55.29 | bradym | "this project" being what you're doing at your current company? or the new venture? |
| 22:55.39 | thebigdog | current one |
| 22:57.21 | bradym | yeah, i know that feeling.. had the same concerns when i left my last job.. fact that it was definitely a college job made it easier for me |
| 23:04.57 | mindjuju | ugh, talk about a work hazard, yuck! |
| 23:05.06 | mindjuju | i hate Warm Chair Syndrome |
| 23:05.37 | thebigdog | ~hurl |
| 23:05.38 | jbot | methinks hurl is at http://www.xach.com/hurl/ |
| 23:06.41 | timinator | that rocks thebigdog !!! |
| 23:06.46 | timinator | good for you man |
| 23:06.51 | thebigdog | ty |
| 23:07.22 | timinator | we gotta go shooting before you move further south though |
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| 23:08.34 | timinator | how's tomorrow? |
| 23:08.50 | mindjuju | holy crap! - http://media1.funnyjunk.com/pics/baddesign.jpg |
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| 23:09.18 | thebigdog | tomorrow i have lunch with a good friend comin into town |
| 23:09.28 | thebigdog | we will go though |
| 23:10.45 | timinator | hmmm |
| 23:10.47 | timinator | :) |
| 23:10.59 | mindjuju | timinator, you got to see this vid - http://gizmodo.com/343348/confessions-the-meanest-thing-gizmodo-did-at-ces |
| 23:14.15 | timinator | too funny |
| 23:14.16 | SunSparc | Freaks |
| 23:14.34 | timinator | although, I would've killed a guy for messing up my trade show booth |
| 23:14.44 | timinator | it was stressful enough |
| 23:15.38 | SunSparc | Totally |
| 23:15.50 | mgeary | so, did thebigdog tell us what his new gig is? |
| 23:16.03 | SunSparc | He is a cashier at Wendy's |
| 23:16.10 | timinator | LOL |
| 23:17.35 | timinator | we spent >20k on our trade show |
| 23:22.40 | thebigdog | i work the fries now |
| 23:23.08 | _psychic_ | that gizmodo thing crosses the line |
| 23:23.17 | _psychic_ | that's so terrible they screwed up that dudes presentation |
| 23:23.36 | _psychic_ | it woulda been funny just nuking a wall of displays.... |
| 23:24.19 | thebigdog | actually your reading the new line chief at chipotle's |
| 23:25.08 | SunSparc | Cool, we got an in for the next Geek Lunch. |
| 23:25.16 | timinator | ya, very nice |
| 23:25.30 | timinator | ~congrats thebigdog |
| 23:25.38 | timinator | hmmm.... |
| 23:25.47 | timinator | ~congratulate thebigdog |
| 23:25.48 | jbot | ACTION congratulates thebigdog on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 23:25.53 | timinator | there we go |
| 23:27.28 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:27.31 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 23:27.31 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 23:27.48 | timinator | LOL.... there's my big dog |
| 23:28.02 | timinator | ~flip back to thebigdog |
| 23:28.03 | jbot | ACTION gives back to thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 23:28.10 | mindjuju | _psychic_ , i just showed it to our in house counsel, he said he'd be surprised if motorola didn't come out with a suit for damages |
| 23:28.28 | _psychic_ | I'd kick some butt |
| 23:28.37 | _psychic_ | otherwise it was pretty funny |
| 23:28.37 | mindjuju | considering how costly it is to have a booth, the equip, the opportunity |
| 23:28.44 | timinator | thebigdog: clean my monitor!! http://www.roberthein.dk/screenclean.swf |
| 23:28.51 | SunSparc | I would sentence them to paintball firing squad. |
| 23:29.22 | _psychic_ | I wonder if they end up not being able to attend CES |
| 23:29.40 | thebigdog | timinator, ty |
| 23:29.43 | thebigdog | all clean now |
| 23:29.53 | timinator | :) |
| 23:48.29 | mgeary | itunes |
| 23:48.35 | fungus | hehe |
| 23:48.38 | mgeary | :) |
