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| 00:22.48 | PoeticIntensity | man.... I gotta give props to Paul Oakenfold.... |
| 00:22.57 | PoeticIntensity | Dude *knows* how to spin trance.... |
| 00:23.18 | PoeticIntensity | Serious brain food. |
| 00:24.53 | tierra | I like trance, but I don't like Oakenfold... but that could be because of how ridiculously flooded the generic techno and trance genres are... |
| 00:26.03 | tierra | being that I don't like those generic genres... I fall more into the more specialized categories under those... goa/psy trance for example, though there's others |
| 00:26.28 | PoeticIntensity | I can understand that. |
| 00:26.33 | tierra | Oakenfold falls under the generics for me |
| 00:26.43 | PoeticIntensity | I just want something that puts my brain into overdrive. |
| 00:26.47 | PoeticIntensity | but doesn't get in the way. |
| 00:27.01 | PoeticIntensity | Trance is the only music I can concentrate to. |
| 00:27.11 | PoeticIntensity | if it gets too crazy, it becomes a distraction... |
| 00:27.23 | tierra | I can listen to just about anything if it's something I like |
| 00:27.25 | PoeticIntensity | Seems like Oakenfold stays to the basics, doesn't get too crazy, etc... |
| 00:27.33 | PoeticIntensity | so... I'd agree with ya. |
| 00:28.02 | mindjuju | especially older oakenfold |
| 00:28.15 | mindjuju | like voyage into trance |
| 00:29.11 | tierra | that can be explained by a following where everyone copied his style... sadly, I wasn't there for those days, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't "generic |
| 00:29.18 | tierra | "generic" back then |
| 00:29.41 | mindjuju | yeah, it was awesome |
| 00:29.56 | mindjuju | tierra, have you heard voyage into trance? you'd love it |
| 00:30.05 | tierra | I'm not sure I have actually |
| 00:30.23 | mindjuju | have CD, DVD w/ visuals and DVD audio |
| 00:30.38 | mindjuju | oh, and some trippy 3d goggles |
| 00:30.50 | tierra | heh, nice |
| 00:31.24 | tierra | I'll check it out |
| 00:32.07 | mindjuju | what i need though is late 80's - early 90's club music |
| 00:32.12 | mindjuju | i miss that stuff |
| 00:32.26 | mindjuju | i should send what I have to synic and see if he'll mix it for me |
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| 00:41.43 | tierra | mindjuju: much a fan of Prodigy? |
| 00:41.53 | tierra | some of their stuff is that old I think |
| 00:41.57 | tierra | or close enough |
| 00:42.37 | tierra | maybe we should start a Last.fm group |
| 00:42.39 | tierra | http://www.last.fm/user/tierra/ |
| 00:43.26 | mindjuju | not familiar with last.fm |
| 00:43.30 | mindjuju | checking out your link |
| 00:44.07 | tierra | everyone should be on last.fm.... I hate social networking related sites, but last.fm is about the music, not the network |
| 00:44.37 | dataw0lf | tierra, you just made soda go up my nose with that comment |
| 00:44.40 | tierra | they are the same guys that did AudioScrobbler back in the day, and it's built on that same tech |
| 00:44.55 | tierra | dataw0lf: I was trying |
| 00:44.57 | tierra | :) |
| 00:44.59 | dataw0lf | but I gotta go hand out toys at the Ronald McDonald House |
| 00:45.05 | dataw0lf | tierra: ;-) |
| 00:45.08 | dataw0lf | cya! |
| 00:45.17 | mindjuju | cya! |
| 01:00.58 | tierra | http://www.last.fm/group/Utah+PHP+Users+Group |
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| 16:21.21 | dataw0lf | morning |
| 16:21.45 | mindjuju | morning |
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| 16:46.32 | mindjuju | talk about freezing cold outside |
| 16:49.14 | RedHeron | Yeah, my thermometer says 13. |
| 16:49.29 | mindjuju | ugh |
| 16:49.39 | mindjuju | feels like i'm in freakin Siberia |
| 16:50.08 | mindjuju | walking to the car was like walking across tundra |
| 16:55.02 | brasto | undertak1ngyou: I was thinking, if you send an encrypted email, I should be able to test importing the key when the email arrives, shouldn't I? Is it not like importing a signed email? |
| 17:43.47 | mindjuju | speechless - http://www.forbes.com/technology/2007/12/26/apple-patents-iphone-tech-wire-bc_1227appatent.html |
| 17:47.44 | PoeticIntensity | interesting... |
| 18:20.27 | mindjuju | k, i've about had it with this kind of stuff - http://www.local6.com/news/14147512/detail.html |
| 18:20.48 | brasto | how do you get jbot to forget an action? |
| 18:21.03 | mindjuju | freakin' lady in a freakin' wheelchair gets freakin zapped 10 times by a freakin' taser |
| 18:21.24 | mindjuju | freakin' cop needs to get tasered in his frekain' family jewels |
| 18:25.23 | brasto | the command ~forget <actionname> doesn't work, and it doesn't matter if there's a factoid with the same name |
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| 18:31.35 | brasto | the command ~no <actionname> has never worked for me, and ~no <factoid> doesn't work either. |
| 18:32.51 | RedHeron | How about jbot: no, <actionname> |
| 18:32.56 | RedHeron | How about jbot: no, <actionname> is <action> |
| 18:33.26 | brasto | I'll try that, RedHeron, one moment... |
| 18:37.14 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, it's pretty abusrd, isn't it. |
| 18:37.36 | brasto | ~no, motel6 $1 is <action> Leaves the lights on through the night for $1. |
| 18:38.00 | brasto | ~motel6 RedHeron |
| 18:38.01 | jbot | ACTION Leaves the lights on for RedHeron |
| 18:38.01 | PoeticIntensity | unless she had some sort of robotic wheelchair which gave her superhuman mobility.... |
| 18:38.37 | brasto | didn't work, RedHeron |
| 18:38.39 | PoeticIntensity | I cannot think of a single reason why tasers should have even been thought of. |
| 18:39.08 | RedHeron | I can explain that, if you're *really* interested, but it's boring. |
| 18:39.34 | brasto | PoeticIntensity: maybe she stood up and used her wheelchair as a weapon... |
| 18:39.40 | PoeticIntensity | hehe..... |
| 18:39.46 | RedHeron | Essentially, it was a push to take firearms off the streets and push for a "nonlethal" weapon that could be used at a range. |
| 18:39.58 | PoeticIntensity | for cryin' out loud, just put some obstacle in her way, immobilizing her, and wait for her to calm down.... |
| 18:40.30 | RedHeron | Well, it's the mind behind the weapon, not the weapon itself. |
| 18:40.40 | PoeticIntensity | of course! |
| 18:40.50 | PoeticIntensity | that officer used it 9 times! |
| 18:40.54 | PoeticIntensity | shouldn't have used it once! |
| 18:41.04 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> tasers |
| 18:41.14 | RedHeron | It's the argument between what's more dangerous, the firearm or the person using it. |
| 18:41.15 | brasto | part of a policeman's job is to protect a person from harming themselves also. Granted, the policewoman failed there, she actually did the killing... |
| 18:41.16 | PoeticIntensity | I see no reason why in the world the taser was even taken out. |
| 18:41.23 | PoeticIntensity | wha....? |
| 18:41.49 | RedHeron | It's the argument between what's more dangerous, the firearm or the person using it. Firearms don't generally use themselves. |
| 18:42.03 | brasto | PoeticIntensity: I only meant leaving the person to calm down might not work, not that they should use tasers on the wheelchair-bound |
| 18:42.23 | PoeticIntensity | I'm not followin' ya, RedHeron .... |
| 18:42.36 | PoeticIntensity | exactly... |
| 18:42.46 | PoeticIntensity | anyone arguing that a gun in and of itself is dangerous is psychotic. |
| 18:42.57 | PoeticIntensity | the gun is a piece of metal. |
| 18:43.01 | RedHeron | It doesn't matter the weapon, it's the person using it that's the danger. |
| 18:43.14 | RedHeron | Tasers, guns, or even a mini-maglight. |
| 18:43.17 | RedHeron | maglite* |
| 18:43.24 | PoeticIntensity | or a small pebble! |
| 18:43.28 | RedHeron | Right. |
| 18:43.32 | mindjuju | correct, but in this case, i think PI and I were talking the cop needed to be whipped and new procedures in place |
| 18:43.41 | PoeticIntensity | precisely... |
| 18:43.41 | influx^^ | Que pasa? |
| 18:43.42 | mindjuju | don't think PI was saying tasers in and of themselves were bad |
| 18:43.48 | mindjuju | and I certainly wasn't |
| 18:44.01 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, I'm glad someone understands what the issue is... |
| 18:44.06 | RedHeron | Yeah, but... a taser on someone in a WHEELCHAIR? |
| 18:44.14 | wps | I'll throw something out… I've never had a copy draw a gun on me, or a taser |
| 18:44.14 | PoeticIntensity | PRECISELY! |
| 18:44.14 | mindjuju | yeah, my point |
| 18:44.17 | wps | there's a reason for that |
| 18:44.25 | wps | s/copy/cop/ |
| 18:44.28 | RedHeron | PoeticIntensity, I thought you were saying you didn't understand why tasers were ever issued. |
| 18:44.33 | mindjuju | shock the cop in the nuts for being dumb |
| 18:44.38 | mindjuju | set example to other cops |
| 18:44.48 | PoeticIntensity | ah... Nope, RedHeron.... I was saying she never should have even thought about pulling her taser out. |
| 18:44.56 | PoeticIntensity | much less actually using it. |
| 18:45.06 | RedHeron | orsonj, having thought about it, should have decided against it. |
| 18:45.07 | mindjuju | oh, was it a she cop? |
| 18:45.08 | PoeticIntensity | I say, fire the cop. |
| 18:45.14 | PoeticIntensity | (she cop, yes) |
| 18:45.19 | PoeticIntensity | fired the taser 9 times. |
| 18:45.26 | wps | I'm not saying that what happened should have happened, but you'll notice a reoccurring theme regarding those that are shot and taserred |
| 18:45.32 | PoeticIntensity | her partner fired his once. |
| 18:45.50 | influx^^ | Holy guano. |
| 18:46.06 | wps | cops don't shoot/taser people that are rational, peaceful, and obeying the law |
| 18:46.11 | PoeticIntensity | Cops that are that inept at doing their job shouldn't have that job anymore. |
| 18:46.30 | mindjuju | yeah, but there is a fine line there |
| 18:46.42 | mindjuju | citizens shouldn't be treated this poorly |
| 18:46.42 | brasto | mindjuju, the cop that did most of the tasering, 9 of 10 of them, had no nuts... |
| 18:46.58 | RedHeron | wps, cops do shoot people without provocation... think 'don't tase me bro' when they were trying to zap an already-subdued college student. |
| 18:47.30 | mindjuju | we haven't reached the police state,, though with that new law passed a couple of days ago, i'm afraid we're pretty dang close |
| 18:47.31 | PoeticIntensity | It's like people are somehow draining themselves of common-sense. |
| 18:47.53 | wps | people that are yelling and wilding knives and hammers shouldn't be cooed and cried over like they were sneaked up behind innocently |
| 18:47.55 | mindjuju | but cops are pulling tasers out at the slightest level of disagreement |
| 18:48.09 | brasto | mindjuju: here's a quote: "According to a police report, one of the officers used /her/ Taser gun nine times..." |
| 18:48.22 | wps | don't get in a disagreement with a cop |
| 18:48.53 | wps | I would never get into a confrontation with a cop… even if I was innocent |
| 18:49.04 | mindjuju | so... fear the cops |
| 18:49.05 | PoeticIntensity | uhh.... let me get this straight, wps, you think the cop was justified tasering a 56-year-old wheelchair-bound woman? |
| 18:49.13 | RedHeron | When you're schizophrenic, you aren't rational. |
| 18:49.19 | wps | nope, I didn't say that |
| 18:49.23 | wps | I actually said the reverse |
| 18:49.27 | wps | that was completely out of line |
| 18:49.32 | PoeticIntensity | ok... |
| 18:49.34 | brasto | I think you're overlooking the issue mindjuju. You said 'cops'. If you look at the statistics, I'd bet that less than 1% of them have used tasers. |
| 18:49.54 | mindjuju | brasto, i'm replying to wps statement, not to wheelchair lady anymore |
| 18:50.04 | RedHeron | I don't think 10 time with a taser is rational behavior. |
| 18:50.12 | brasto | ok |
| 18:50.14 | PoeticIntensity | not by a long shot, RedHeron . |
| 18:50.31 | RedHeron | The officer was being as irrational as the mental subject. |
| 18:50.40 | PoeticIntensity | "Hear Hear!" |
| 18:50.43 | mindjuju | we need to be careful how much power we the citizens imbue OUR police |
| 18:50.56 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 18:51.07 | mindjuju | this is not their state, not their laws, it is Our laws, our state |
| 18:51.10 | mindjuju | and they work for us |
| 18:51.33 | PoeticIntensity | we pay them. |
| 18:51.44 | RedHeron | As was the "don't tase me bro" incident. |
| 18:52.01 | PoeticIntensity | what incident are you referring to, RedHeron ? |
| 18:52.31 | mindjuju | brb, got to go save coworkers from themselves. back in like 10minutes |
| 18:53.23 | influx^^ | whacked |
| 18:54.29 | PoeticIntensity | totally, thoroughly, and completely whacked. |
| 18:54.46 | PoeticIntensity | I would be suing as well, if it were my grandma they killed. |
| 18:55.05 | PoeticIntensity | even if she was completely out of her freakin' insane mind. |
| 18:55.24 | PoeticIntensity | if she had a gun, it'd be a totally different story, but 2 knives and a hammer? |
| 18:55.30 | dataw0lf | I'd be doing a lot more than suing. |
| 18:55.34 | PoeticIntensity | just keep your distance for a bit.... |
| 18:55.48 | PoeticIntensity | or even risk getting cut by running up and physically immobilizing her. |
| 18:56.04 | PoeticIntensity | tasing her? Totally out of the question. |
| 18:56.08 | dataw0lf | there's no rational explanation for anyone tasing an old woman in a wheelchair. |
| 18:56.08 | RedHeron | PoeticIntensity, search on YouTube for "Don't Taze me Bro" |
| 18:56.12 | dataw0lf | That's bully behavior. |
| 18:56.13 | RedHeron | I no longer have the link. |
| 18:56.20 | PoeticIntensity | k |
| 18:56.23 | dataw0lf | and that's, unfortunately, what a number of police are. |
| 18:56.33 | dataw0lf | Bullies with access to an incredibly power trip. |
| 18:56.45 | RedHeron | dataw0lf, one time I can see, but if it wasn't effective the first time, repetition isn't going to make the situation better. |
| 18:57.05 | dataw0lf | you. don't. tase. an. old. woman. in. a. wheelchair. |
| 18:57.07 | dataw0lf | one time? |
| 18:57.09 | dataw0lf | give me a break |
| 18:57.17 | RedHeron | SHe has weapons. |
| 18:57.30 | dataw0lf | so what? |
| 18:57.32 | RedHeron | If you use the shock to disarm her, that's all that's needed. |
| 18:57.43 | RedHeron | Twice is excessive. |
| 18:57.51 | dataw0lf | you're dealing with a woman that probably has the emotional and mental capacity and rationalisation of a toddler. |
| 18:57.52 | RedHeron | There is no excuse for 10 times whatsoever. |
| 18:58.01 | dataw0lf | if a toddler picks up a gun you don't tase him |
| 18:58.21 | dataw0lf | they're both abnormally physically sensitive to a tase. |
| 18:58.37 | dataw0lf | I consider myself tough, but I've been tased, and I felt like I was dying. And I'm 25 and in great shape. |
| 18:58.46 | RedHeron | I wouldn't call 10 times with no response "lack of sensitivity". |
| 18:58.54 | RedHeron | Fat insulates. |
| 18:59.18 | RedHeron | It hurts, but doesn't really jolt you much. |
| 18:59.34 | RedHeron | And on top of that, pschizophrenic people often believe their lives are in danger. |
| 18:59.36 | dataw0lf | I'm not talking about it hurting. I'm talking about damage and possible fatality. |
| 18:59.53 | RedHeron | As I said... one time I could see if it was going to disarm her. |
| 19:00.10 | dataw0lf | Tasing is supposed to be an ALTERNATIVE to lethal force. |
| 19:00.23 | RedHeron | Right. |
| 19:00.33 | dataw0lf | so if you didn't have a taser you would've shot the old woman |
| 19:00.49 | RedHeron | Tazing once wouldn't really harm most people, though it certainly doesn't feel good. |
| 19:01.00 | RedHeron | Pacemaker patients... different story. |
| 19:01.06 | dataw0lf | "most people" |
| 19:01.12 | dataw0lf | the elderly and children are not "most people" |
| 19:01.25 | dataw0lf | even if you just have a weak heart (or an overburdened heart...) a taser can be fatal. |
| 19:01.32 | RedHeron | Actually, if you want to pull in statistics... |
| 19:01.49 | RedHeron | Let's not go there. |
| 19:01.50 | RedHeron | The police in Florida not acting rationally. |
| 19:01.56 | RedHeron | Period. |
| 19:02.21 | brasto | let's be carefull - one policewoman in Florida didn't act rationally |
| 19:02.21 | dataw0lf | The police officer should be fired. Get him off the street. |
| 19:02.25 | dataw0lf | oh, her. |
| 19:02.36 | RedHeron | This isn't about one officer. It's a trend. |
| 19:02.50 | RedHeron | This makes 4 unnecessary tazer incidents in as many months. |
| 19:02.55 | brasto | I wouldn't call less than 1% of the policeforce using tasers a trend... |
| 19:03.04 | RedHeron | All involving female officers, I might add. |
| 19:03.05 | mindjuju | dataw0lf hit it right on, it is tazer is an alternative to lethal force, not a means to compel |
| 19:03.22 | dataw0lf | police officers have a history of intentionally NOT defusing situations. |
| 19:03.34 | brasto | 4 taser incidents in a population of hundreds of millions? |
| 19:03.35 | dataw0lf | it's because the type of people that the police force attracts. |
| 19:03.40 | RedHeron | That's precisely what I'm trying to drive at, dataw0lf. |
| 19:04.02 | brasto | at least one was not a female officer |
| 19:04.06 | RedHeron | brasto: it's the fact that it wasn't that many in 2 years before that. |
| 19:04.12 | brasto | at least of the ones I saw |
| 19:04.32 | dataw0lf | I'm not saying there aren't any good cops. My dad was in law enforcement for a while, I have cop friends. However, there is a substantial minority of police officers that act precisely as they shouldn't. |
| 19:04.46 | brasto | RedHeron: maybe there wasn't as much publicity about it 2 years ago. youtube didn't exist 2 years ago - and if it did, it wasn't nearly as much used |
| 19:04.47 | brasto | can |
| 19:05.05 | RedHeron | brasto: it's still reported because tasers are coded. |
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| 19:05.18 | brasto | can't say something wasn't as common 2 years ago without actually looking at all the police records for the entire nation for the last couple years. |
| 19:05.29 | brasto | I doubt it's more common, it's just more public |
| 19:05.31 | RedHeron | brasto: I'm *only* talking about Florida. |
| 19:05.48 | RedHeron | brasto: and I *did* see the records. |
| 19:06.05 | brasto | all records for the entire state, which are not all online? |
| 19:06.28 | RedHeron | You don't have to have them online if you're a member of the press. |
| 19:06.41 | dataw0lf | you don't need all records anyways. |
| 19:06.53 | dataw0lf | You can take subsection and draw relatively accurate conclusions. |
| 19:07.10 | RedHeron | Yeah, all I had were the incidents involving weapons, with personally-identifiable information blotted out. |
| 19:07.22 | RedHeron | Over a 3-year period. |
| 19:07.34 | RedHeron | Stack of data about 8 inches tall, printed out. |
| 19:07.34 | brasto | ok, that wins you some credibility then RedHeron |
| 19:08.16 | brasto | paper data though... that's hard to parse... put it in a mysql database and do some queries. |
| 19:08.27 | brasto | cool |
| 19:08.27 | dataw0lf | well there has been a push for taser use by police officers. But the push doesn't seem to emphasize the fact it's an alternative to lethal force. Or the police officers just ignore it because they enjoy tasing people because of the type of people they are to have joined the police force in the first place. |
| 19:08.43 | RedHeron | Wrote a PHP form to drop it in, then a query to parse out the types of incidents. |
| 19:09.01 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PcS-s9WtQ |
| 19:09.05 | PoeticIntensity | "Don't tase me bro". |
| 19:09.09 | brasto | credibility++ RedHeron |
| 19:09.09 | PoeticIntensity | that video is amazing... |
| 19:09.24 | PoeticIntensity | the guy wasn't doing anything but voicing his opinion and asking questions. |
| 19:09.30 | PoeticIntensity | and he got tased for it. |
| 19:09.33 | RedHeron | Yep. |
| 19:09.35 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: exactly. |
| 19:09.37 | PoeticIntensity | simply unbelievable. |
| 19:09.43 | RedHeron | Thanks, brasto. |
| 19:09.52 | PoeticIntensity | the whole time I was watching, I was like..... "This has got to be made up". |
| 19:09.57 | dataw0lf | You can remove a person if they're being disruptive, I can see that, especially at a school function. |
| 19:10.06 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 19:10.07 | dataw0lf | you don't TASE them though |
| 19:10.14 | PoeticIntensity | insane. |
| 19:10.16 | dataw0lf | that's some 1984 crap. |
| 19:10.23 | RedHeron | Yes, but essentially what they were doing was inhibition of First Amendment. |
| 19:12.23 | RedHeron | And even with the PHP form, it still took me the better part of a week for data entry. |
| 19:13.11 | dataw0lf | RedHeron: if they ask him to leave and he doesn't (which they can do), they can legally remove him from the forum for trespassing. |
| 19:13.52 | dataw0lf | so I don't think it has as much to do with first amendment rights as much as some would like to believe. if the school doesn't like a disruptive question, they can certainly ask a participant to leave. |
| 19:14.06 | dataw0lf | whether or not that's "democratically moral" is irrelevant. |
| 19:14.16 | RedHeron | Kerry actually protested it, though. |
| 19:14.47 | RedHeron | Therefore, he was in support of the student's position, though he can't really openly protest. |
| 19:14.48 | dataw0lf | sure, but it's not his decision. He didn't invite the guests; the school did. While they should have probably listened to Kerry, they acted within their rights as well. |
| 19:15.01 | dataw0lf | but tasing a guy, that's ridiculous. |
| 19:15.01 | influx^^ | RedHeron: Was the "don't tase me bro" incident at a public institution? |
| 19:15.09 | RedHeron | College gym. |
| 19:15.17 | influx^^ | public? |
| 19:15.24 | RedHeron | Nope, private property. |
| 19:15.26 | dataw0lf | it's owned by the school. |
| 19:15.40 | influx^^ | Then the 1st amendment wouldn't apply, would it? |
| 19:15.47 | RedHeron | Even so, they were trying to subdue him instead of reasoning with him. |
| 19:15.57 | dataw0lf | RedHeron: Agreed. That was completely out of line. |
| 19:16.02 | influx^^ | I do agree they were being unreasonable in their actions. |
| 19:16.12 | RedHeron | It's the fact that they were using aggressive force against a nonaggressor, that's what makes it a First Amendment issue. |
| 19:16.14 | dataw0lf | here's what I say. Any time a cop has to use a taser, they have to be tased afterwards. Tit for tat. |
| 19:16.19 | dataw0lf | then they won't use it unless they really have to. |
| 19:16.30 | influx^^ | how about tat for tit? |
| 19:16.30 | dataw0lf | if tasing is so safe, I'm sure they can see the justification in this. |
| 19:17.23 | RedHeron | Personally, I think cops should study Kung Fu under a Chinese master for 3 years before entrance to the police academy. |
| 19:17.54 | dataw0lf | and then embark on a quest to rid the world of the drug dealers that murdered their family... |
| 19:17.59 | dataw0lf | I see where you're going with this. I like it. |
| 19:18.12 | RedHeron | Nah, only 3 years, not life-long. |
| 19:18.34 | RedHeron | And it was Triads, not simple drug dealers. |
| 19:18.47 | dataw0lf | are we talking about a specific movie? |
| 19:18.54 | influx^^ | 3 years? |
| 19:18.55 | dataw0lf | I was just coming up with El Generic Plotline |
| 19:19.10 | influx^^ | 3 years is a loooong time. *smirk* |
| 19:19.13 | RedHeron | I was playing off of it. |
| 19:19.19 | dataw0lf | oh right right. |
| 19:19.22 | influx^^ | Might as well be neo. |
| 19:19.31 | RedHeron | 3 years is nothing in Kung Fu. |
| 19:19.33 | dataw0lf | yea, 3 years. |
| 19:19.37 | dataw0lf | they'd learn how to meditate. |
| 19:19.41 | dataw0lf | Tada! |
| 19:19.41 | influx^^ | ^ |
| 19:19.44 | influx^^ | pretty much |
| 19:19.49 | RedHeron | They'd learn how to reason before they use force. |
| 19:19.58 | influx^^ | I've been at it about two, and I can still have my ass handed to me. |
| 19:19.59 | dataw0lf | martial arts are for pansies. |
| 19:20.05 | dataw0lf | see? |
| 19:20.24 | dataw0lf | right it down |
| 19:20.33 | influx^^ | Correction |
| 19:20.34 | RedHeron | Martial arts are for people to gain confidence enough that they don't have to fight. |
| 19:20.36 | dataw0lf | I have 3 months of training in krav maga from the IDF, and it doesn't do squat for me. |
| 19:20.37 | influx^^ | my ass handed to me by my sifu. |
| 19:20.45 | influx^^ | Joe on the street, I might stand a chance. |
| 19:20.53 | RedHeron | 3 months... heh. |
| 19:20.54 | dataw0lf | My martial art is ching ching pow. |
| 19:20.59 | influx^^ | racist |
| 19:21.02 | influx^^ | <3 |
| 19:21.16 | influx^^ | Kidding. Is there really ching ching pow? |
| 19:21.25 | dataw0lf | RedHeron: 3 months of getting your butt handed to you by IDF soldiers. I mean, really handed to you, is a long time. |
| 19:21.56 | influx^^ | oh |
| 19:22.04 | influx^^ | :O |
| 19:22.10 | dataw0lf | I'm a 19D. We don't fight with our hands unless we run out of rounds and we can't scrounge some on the surrounding corpses |
| 19:22.21 | dataw0lf | and if somehow our M4 breaks and we can't rifle butt to the head |
| 19:22.25 | dataw0lf | and we run out of grenades |
| 19:22.35 | dataw0lf | and if we didn't bring our M9 with us |
| 19:22.41 | dataw0lf | so never. |
| 19:22.53 | influx^^ | and the insurgents drop their weapons. |
| 19:23.06 | dataw0lf | especially when gut shot. |
| 19:23.31 | influx^^ | My supervisor was in the Navy, but she was a scrub. |
| 19:24.00 | dataw0lf | the Navy uses mops in close combat. |
| 19:24.12 | dataw0lf | actually shotguns but just trying to make fun. |
| 19:24.34 | influx^^ | Ha. She mentioned that, actually. |
| 19:24.53 | influx^^ | The ammo is kept separate from the shotgun, which is locked away. |
| 19:25.15 | influx^^ | But, yes... tasers = baaad. |
| 19:25.19 | dataw0lf | yea, after about 6 months at sea I'm sure there's a growing number of sailors that want to suck on the business end. |
| 19:25.42 | dataw0lf | I think the suicide rate of sailors is the highest amongst the armed forces. I could be wrong. |
| 19:25.59 | influx^^ | Oh, dataw0lf... let me axe you a question. |
| 19:26.06 | dataw0lf | shoot. |
| 19:26.28 | influx^^ | Was that story about the female soldier (or contractor or whatever) in iraq true? The one where she claimed she was raped? |
| 19:26.43 | influx^^ | I mean, what did you hear aboot it. |
| 19:26.51 | dataw0lf | contractor. and how am I supposed to know? are you accusing me of raping her when I was in Iraq? |
| 19:27.00 | dataw0lf | it sounds true, to me. |
| 19:27.16 | influx^^ | Not at all. |
| 19:27.19 | dataw0lf | I didn't really hear anything about it. All my friends are too busy getting shot at to worry about some chick who is claiming that she got raped. |
| 19:27.52 | dataw0lf | I'm sure soldiers still over there believe it to be true. Contractors get away with crap all the time. |
| 19:28.11 | dataw0lf | Plus we hate them, which helps our belief of their guilt immeasurably, I'm sure. |
| 19:29.40 | dataw0lf | But, yea, I think it happened. Why would they be pushing for a closed hearing if not? They aren't owned by Haliburton anymore so the blowback shouldn't warrant a influenced coverup. |
| 19:30.23 | dataw0lf | of course, they WERE owned by Haliburton at the time supposed time of the incident, I believe. |
| 19:30.28 | dataw0lf | -time |
| 19:31.33 | RedHeron | I think that's correct. |
| 19:31.34 | dataw0lf | but I have no trouble believing contractors would do that. 90% of the ones I met were slimeballs. There were some decent ones in Afghanistan, but that's not where huge amounts of corporate money were funnelled in for rebuilding efforts. |
| 19:31.56 | dataw0lf | (and oil, of course) |
| 19:32.11 | RedHeron | Well, there were lots of people over there who should have undergone a psyche eval or 6 before ever being handed a firearm. |
| 19:32.46 | dataw0lf | Amen to that, plus the feeling of superiority when you're being paid more than everyone but higher officers and get an entourage to guard you doesn't help I'm sure. |
| 19:32.52 | dataw0lf | and no laws to answer to. |
| 19:32.54 | RedHeron | And IMHO a lot of them are regular forces, though I think there's an inordinately high percentage of contractors by comparison. |
| 19:33.15 | dataw0lf | yes but we have a way of handling "regular forces" with the UCMJ. |
| 19:34.09 | dataw0lf | and I agree; there are numerous nutcases in the armed services. However, they generally tend to lose the good-ole-boy-i-want-to-kill-mes-some-camel-jockies mentality after their first firefight. |
| 19:34.27 | RedHeron | The point being, there were no safeguards for the contractors. |
| 19:34.33 | dataw0lf | and no consequences. |
| 19:34.41 | dataw0lf | legally, there really isn't much recourse she can take. |
| 19:34.54 | RedHeron | Well, the consequences are there, but minimalized. |
| 19:35.10 | RedHeron | I'm sure old BushAdmin will sweep it by. |
| 19:35.19 | RedHeron | Just to protect Halliburton. |
| 19:35.30 | dataw0lf | yea. the question isn't what will they cover up; it's what they won't. |
| 19:36.47 | Utah_Dave | man, Call of Duty 4 rocks. |
| 19:36.51 | dataw0lf | more Bush Admin justice, since they're fleeing the administration like rats from a stinking ship so they can't be called upon the testify and incriminate themselves or their boss. |
| 19:36.56 | dataw0lf | Utah_Dave: doesn't it?? :) |
| 19:37.00 | Utah_Dave | I just played some for the first time during lunch |
| 19:37.05 | dataw0lf | Utah_Dave: computer? |
| 19:37.10 | Utah_Dave | yep |
| 19:37.22 | Utah_Dave | I've never played a first person shooter and enjoyed it so much |
| 19:37.34 | dataw0lf | word. I just got the "Airborne" challenge yesterday: get a two kill stream with bullets while in midair. |
| 19:37.40 | dataw0lf | s/stream/streak/ |
| 19:37.53 | dataw0lf | THAT was hard |
| 19:38.35 | dataw0lf | but I flashbanged this rooftop right before penetrated, got both victims down low, then jumped off the roof and killed them before I hit the ground. |
| 19:38.36 | Utah_Dave | sweet |
| 19:38.48 | dataw0lf | the second one was close, I had to shoot through the wall right before I hit the ground. |
| 19:39.06 | dataw0lf | but yea, you should play it more often, it's a great game. |
| 19:39.29 | Utah_Dave | a buddy at work just built an amazing gaming machine |
| 19:39.31 | dataw0lf | the graphics are amazing, multiplayer has intricate and subtle complexities, it's just really well done. |
| 19:39.43 | Utah_Dave | He left it at work for me because he's on vacation for a couple of weeks |
| 19:39.48 | dataw0lf | ah nice :) |
| 19:40.12 | Utah_Dave | yep, he's letting me take it home for the long weekend. I'm going to hook it up to my 52" HD tv |
| 19:40.17 | Utah_Dave | can't wait |
| 19:40.23 | dataw0lf | Niiiiice. |
| 19:40.44 | dataw0lf | my tv has already gotten too small for me. I want 70+ next time. |
| 19:40.49 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 19:40.50 | RedHeron | I don't even *have* a TV right now. |
| 19:40.55 | dataw0lf | RedHeron: ha! |
| 19:40.56 | Utah_Dave | I need a bigger room. |
| 19:41.14 | Utah_Dave | My tv is a bit too big for the living room we have. It's a little too close to the couch |
| 19:41.16 | dataw0lf | yea, I could barely fit my 56" downstairs into the basement, I'm thinking a projector system next go around. |
| 19:41.39 | Utah_Dave | One of my neighbors set up a sweet basement movie room with a projector |
| 19:41.57 | dataw0lf | I'll tell you what - for those of you who don't have an XBox 360: the playability of Mass Effect and Call of Duty 4 necessitate you getting one. |
| 19:42.08 | dataw0lf | Utah_Dave: yea that's what I want. |
| 19:42.46 | mindjuju | i've heard about how good mass effect is |
| 19:42.52 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: Amazing. |
| 19:42.58 | dataw0lf | Ever played KOTOR or KOTOR 2? |
| 19:43.07 | mindjuju | KOTOR, not 2 |
| 19:43.11 | dataw0lf | Bioware blew it's own socks off with Mass Effect |
| 19:43.14 | dataw0lf | they did everything better |
| 19:43.50 | dataw0lf | it's SO easy to control your teammates |
| 19:44.19 | RedHeron | Speaking of gaming... http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/28/eee-pc-hacked-for-internal-3g-hsdpa/ |
| 19:44.42 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: also, it incorporates sorta shooter game style into it |
| 19:45.06 | dataw0lf | you have to actually aim at your enemies, but your weapon attributes and others will widen the box that you really have to hit |
| 19:45.26 | dataw0lf | so if you're really high in Pistols, you don't really need to actually "hit" the person, your reticle will glow red a certain area around them |
| 19:46.07 | dataw0lf | RedHeron: nice |
| 19:46.31 | dataw0lf | Christmas was nice to me, I got one of those (eeepc). |
| 19:46.41 | RedHeron | Yeah, picked up that URL from #utah |
| 19:46.42 | dataw0lf | and I just got a brand spanking new acoustic guitar. |
| 19:47.56 | dataw0lf | yea, you probably do. |
| 19:48.07 | dataw0lf | but those were christmas gifts I mean |
| 19:48.24 | dataw0lf | I got about a thousand bucks worth of gifts but spent well over that on others this year. |
| 19:48.30 | dataw0lf | it all evens out in the end. |
| 19:56.05 | RedHeron | Shopping all year long kills the Christmas budget. |
| 20:01.08 | dataw0lf | yea. I generally will use my bonus or dip into my savings. |
| 20:11.40 | dataw0lf | nothing to do ..... |
| 20:11.49 | dataw0lf | gosh I hate days right after the holidays |
| 20:12.03 | dataw0lf | I have two programmers until Tuesday. |
| 20:13.20 | dataw0lf | and pretty much nothing to do but listlessly look through internal code and remind myself the weekend is right ahead. We'll probably be hit hard during the New Year though. |
| 20:13.30 | dataw0lf | thanks mindjuju! |
| 21:03.42 | PoeticIntensity | I have a 106" projector / screen downstairs... |
| 21:03.49 | PoeticIntensity | I tried playing Enemy Territory on it... |
| 21:03.57 | PoeticIntensity | Didn't work out as I hoped it would. |
| 21:04.32 | PoeticIntensity | when the screen is bigger than your immediate line of sight, peripheral vision just doesn't cut it. |
| 21:04.57 | PoeticIntensity | I couldn't play on a screen that big.... (although watching movies is quite another story) :) |
| 21:15.44 | wps | I can't believe how paranoid some people are about cookies |
| 21:16.34 | wps | and about analytics (tracking usage statistics) |
| 21:31.14 | *** join/#uphpu undertak1ngyou (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 21:41.05 | influx^^ | Why can't you believe it? |
| 21:41.28 | wps | just surprised |
| 21:42.17 | wps | and think it's sad how people believe in alarmists/extremists and don't look into things for themselves |
| 21:42.24 | wps | "Cookies are bad!" |
| 21:42.26 | wps | why? |
| 21:42.27 | influx^^ | Ah. |
| 21:42.31 | wps | "uh… well… I'm not sure" |
| 21:42.37 | influx^^ | Well, because they raise your blood sugar? |
| 21:42.41 | wps | then when do you think they are bad? |
| 21:42.48 | wps | "uh… not sure… someone told me they were" |
| 21:42.55 | wps | so you don't know what they do? |
| 21:43.01 | influx^^ | Of cousre I do... somewhat. |
| 21:43.04 | mindjuju | not only that, but if they think the boogy man lives just on the internet, they'd be surprised how much marketing data is collected elsewhere |
| 21:43.10 | wps | "no. isn't that how spyware and malware get onto my computer?" |
| 21:43.11 | wps | no |
| 21:43.23 | mindjuju | wps, i love that reason |
| 21:43.29 | mindjuju | heard it personally at least a dozen times |
| 21:43.38 | influx^^ | it's true though, isn't it? |
| 21:43.50 | wps | my father-in-law's jaw dropped when I told him my new job was at Omniture |
| 21:43.58 | influx^^ | ha |
| 21:44.05 | wps | "Isn't that that company that puts those pesky cookies on my computer????" |
| 21:44.06 | influx^^ | i just read that article about CS3 phoning home. |
| 21:44.26 | influx^^ | I though to myself... "Oh... no." |
| 21:44.46 | wps | I do have one question about that and emailed my boss to clarify how one could opt out of that, since Photoshop doesn't maintain it's own cookies. |
| 21:44.52 | mindjuju | influx, there is an xml file that you can mod to stop it |
| 21:44.58 | influx^^ | mindjuju: ^_^ |
| 21:45.07 | influx^^ | I will google that later then. |
| 21:45.08 | wps | I was about to post this as a comment to that article but decided to wait until I understood how you can opt out before doing so: |
| 21:45.10 | wps | "How is this invading your privacy? Adobe and Omniture's tracking are clearly stated in their privacy policy and their product EUAs and they provide (by means of Omniture's website) to opt-out. Also, they are not collecting any personal information that isn't already available to any web server/agent via standard internet traffic. How does Adobe knowing how many times you have opened Photoshop make the world more unsafe?" |
| 21:45.41 | influx^^ | aye |
| 21:46.12 | wps | if Omniture collected/harvested truly private data, then I would have a problem with that |
| 21:46.38 | wps | but getting your knickers in a not because they are logging your user agent and screen resolution is rediculous |
| 21:48.05 | wps | they don't know your bank account number, how big your tax return was, or the last time you had a colonoscopy was |
| 21:50.46 | influx^^ | I'm not terribly concerned. |
| 21:51.21 | influx^^ | As long as no one ends up with information like an IP address or registration key or something. |
| 21:51.39 | wps | any website can log your IP though |
| 21:51.42 | PoeticIntensity | wps, just a note because it's becoming a peeve... the word is "Ridiculous". |
| 21:51.49 | influx^^ | wps: Yes, I realize that. |
| 21:51.57 | influx^^ | But why would Adobe need that? |
| 21:52.21 | wps | thanks, PoeticIntensity :) |
| 21:52.28 | PoeticIntensity | no problem.... no offense intended. |
| 21:52.37 | wps | I'm definitely not an accurate typist |
| 21:52.45 | PoeticIntensity | it's all good. |
| 21:52.49 | wps | I'm trying to proof before hitting send more |
| 21:52.50 | PoeticIntensity | just a note, that's all. |
| 21:52.50 | wps | it's embarrasing |
| 21:52.52 | wps | :) |
| 21:53.00 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... embarrassing. |
| 21:53.07 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) |
| 21:53.56 | PoeticIntensity | fun stuff... |
| 21:56.12 | wps | wow, uphpu.org stats are sad |
| 21:56.25 | wps | 56% using internet explorer on microsoft windows |
| 21:56.53 | wps | 76% using windows with any browser |
| 21:56.53 | mindjuju | don't look at me, it's dataw0lf! |
| 21:57.05 | wps | riiiiiiiiiight |
| 21:57.07 | wps | :) |
| 21:58.11 | influx^^ | windowsw0lf |
| 22:03.01 | mindjuju | thou shalt not cheat on thy girlfriend least she throw your laptop to the ground and stomp on it - http://video.aol.com/video/comedy-crazy-ex-girlfriend/1893380 |
| 22:10.40 | influx^^ | serves the bugger right |
| 22:11.20 | influx^^ | or would it be.000001 |
| 22:12.11 | tierra | Safari counts for 3.11% |
| 22:12.37 | PoeticIntensity | ack... |
| 22:12.47 | PoeticIntensity | I get audio, but no video with the crazy girlfriend video. |
| 22:12.50 | tierra | (with 5.73% of visits using Mac OS X) |
| 22:12.52 | PoeticIntensity | sounds funny... :) |
| 22:13.17 | mindjuju | she essentially just yells about being cheated on |
| 22:13.31 | mindjuju | thows laptop to the floor, gives it the ole 1 foot stomp, grabs the HD TV |
| 22:13.32 | PoeticIntensity | oh... so there's no video? |
| 22:13.39 | PoeticIntensity | oh.. hrmph. |
| 22:13.43 | mindjuju | almost throws it, but then has mercy |
| 22:13.47 | mindjuju | no, it should have both |
| 22:13.51 | mindjuju | video / audio |
| 22:14.44 | PoeticIntensity | hrm... |
| 22:14.49 | PoeticIntensity | it's all flash-based, so it should work. |
| 22:14.51 | PoeticIntensity | ah-well. |
| 22:14.56 | PoeticIntensity | it's aol. |
| 22:15.02 | tierra | I only get audio as well |
| 22:15.20 | mindjuju | you need to upgrade flash to get newer video codec |
| 22:15.25 | tierra | at least, on the Mac... Windows works :) |
| 22:16.15 | PoeticIntensity | I've got 9... |
| 22:16.24 | PoeticIntensity | hrm... works when I do "full screen", though. |
| 22:16.26 | PoeticIntensity | weird. |
| 22:16.48 | mindjuju | that is weird |
| 22:18.09 | PoeticIntensity | wow... |
| 22:18.21 | PoeticIntensity | he must have done something .... wrong. |
| 22:18.22 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:27.29 | mindjuju | the one song that makes Macarena sound like Beethoven's Ode to Joy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddgyg_5FF_0 |
| 22:36.48 | influx^^ | If that's the case... no. |
| 22:40.16 | brasto | sweet! |
| 22:40.37 | brasto | was tierra 60% of his own users? |
| 22:41.50 | unum | I have two tables with a one to many relationship. I want to run an update on the first table based off of the value in the second table |
| 22:42.20 | unum | I can figure out the select statement to get the rows I want, but I don't know how to construct a update statement for this case |
| 22:42.56 | mindjuju | UPDATE tbl_myTable |
| 22:43.01 | mindjuju | oops, sorry |
| 22:43.02 | mindjuju | hang on |
| 22:44.43 | brasto | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM |
| 22:44.49 | brasto | gotta love that one. |
| 22:44.52 | mindjuju | UPDATE tbl_myTable |
| 22:44.52 | mindjuju | SET fld_colName = new_value |
| 22:44.52 | mindjuju | WHERE column_name = (subquery) |
| 22:45.03 | mindjuju | unum, that's what i meant to send, i believe that should work |
| 22:46.23 | mindjuju | well, actually you don't have to run as subquery |
| 22:46.43 | mindjuju | what database are you using? |
| 22:48.22 | unum | pgsql |
| 22:48.30 | unum | not sure how to do the subquery |
| 22:50.20 | unum | hmm it doesn't like that my query returns more than one row |
| 22:51.04 | unum | ah |
| 22:51.10 | unum | I just had to relpace = with in |
| 22:51.11 | unum | thanks |
| 22:51.19 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:51.38 | tierra | brasto: if I accounted for 60,000 visits to my own site in a month, I'd be worried about other problems :) |
| 22:51.57 | brasto | lol |
| 22:52.33 | brasto | that's some pretty impressive numbers tierra, and great stats for "The Browser" |
| 22:53.12 | tierra | it's a C++ development related site, so the Firefox numbers are much more than average |
| 22:54.25 | brasto | that explains it. I think a web developer's site would be even more skewed toward firefox and Linux. |
| 22:54.57 | tierra | yeah |
| 22:55.31 | tierra | which explains why wps is sad about the uphpu.org numbers |
| 22:56.08 | tierra | even a C++ development site (which actually does focus a little more on Windows) gets better numbers than uphpu.org, heh |
| 22:57.45 | wps | I only turned on tracking two days ago though so we don't have very good averages |
| 22:57.50 | wps | :) |
| 22:58.01 | wps | we'll have to wait a few weeks to see how the numbers change |
| 23:02.17 | influx^^ | mwahahaha |
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| 23:03.03 | timinator | :) |
| 23:03.11 | mindjuju | sup timinator |
| 23:03.16 | influx^^ | Captain, the Borg... |
| 23:03.17 | timinator | sup mindjuju |
| 23:03.23 | influx^^ | ...they've asked us to a tea party. |
| 23:03.30 | timinator | I'm in your neck of the woods |
| 23:03.35 | timinator | Xmission today |
| 23:03.36 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 23:03.37 | timinator | :) |
| 23:03.53 | timinator | standing in the colo datacenter now |
| 23:04.02 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 23:04.53 | timinator | ya, except that I'm here cause my power supply and motherboard took a nosedive overnight |
| 23:05.02 | mindjuju | oh no! |
| 23:05.04 | timinator | ya |
| 23:05.10 | timinator | sucky sucky |
| 23:05.22 | timinator | everything's back to normal now though |
| 23:05.46 | timinator | except that I've made all my clients REAL nervous about my having their data |
| 23:05.48 | timinator | :( |
| 23:05.52 | timinator | have to work on that one |
| 23:06.08 | mindjuju | sorry to hear that |
| 23:06.22 | timinator | ya |
| 23:09.35 | timinator | so, I'm looking for automated offsite backup solutions, if anyone has a favorite :) |
| 23:15.26 | unum | ok now I got a hard postgresql question for you |
| 23:15.50 | unum | I have a table with an employee_index a start_time and a stop_time |
| 23:16.32 | unum | I want to select all rows where the stop_time IS NULL and there is another row with the same employee_index and a later start time |
| 23:18.07 | unum | ooh maybe I can use another subquery |
| 23:20.00 | unum | hmm can't quite figure out how to make that one work |
| 23:20.41 | influx^^ | i was cryiiiin' when i met you |
| 23:20.49 | influx^^ | now i'm dyiiiiin' to forget you |
| 23:21.36 | unum | SELECT cfmclog03_index,start_time from cfmclog03 WHERE stop_time IS NULL AND start_time!=(SELECT MAX(start_time) FROM cfmclog03 WHERE employee_index=); |
| 23:21.43 | unum | is what I want to do |
| 23:22.24 | mindjuju | you prolly want all violators in a single recordset, huh? |
| 23:22.56 | mindjuju | where violator = a person who didn't clock out at end of shift, but did clock in the next day |
| 23:23.26 | timinator | I'm out guys.... have a great weekend, and a happy New Year!!!!! |
| 23:24.11 | unum | mindjuju: ya |
| 23:24.35 | unum | well it's a little bit more complicated then that I'm afraid though |
| 23:24.54 | unum | if that was my only problem I would just run the program after the end of shift |
| 23:25.31 | unum | the problem is our employees are all logged into a program and sometimes it freezes up |
| 23:26.09 | unum | and their terminal needs to be reset and it doesn't log that they logged out for that session |
| 23:26.45 | unum | I'm trying to calculate some stuff based off of their hours |
| 23:26.52 | mindjuju | k, i have an idea, but's its cooking, hang on |
| 23:27.10 | unum | they might log in or out of the program during their shift(for break and lunch) |
| 23:28.22 | unum | so I do stuff like SUM(COALESCE(cfmclog03.stop_time,NOW())-cfmclog03.start_time) |
| 23:28.35 | unum | in order to calculate stuff while they are on shift |
| 23:30.51 | mindjuju | is the clockIN and clockOut in a datetime data type? |
| 23:31.05 | unum | yes |
| 23:31.32 | unum | I mean they are timestamp |
| 23:33.12 | mindjuju | macnewbold, you around? |
| 23:35.50 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 23:40.35 | unum | guess I'll try some more monday |
| 23:40.38 | unum | thanks for your help |
| 23:40.44 | mindjuju | well, here is where i was |
| 23:40.48 | mindjuju | doing some quick research |
| 23:40.55 | mindjuju | SELECT fld_recordID |
| 23:40.55 | mindjuju | FROM tbl_clockINOUT |
| 23:40.55 | mindjuju | WHERE fld_clockout = NULL |
| 23:40.55 | mindjuju | AND fld_clockIN != |
| 23:41.08 | mindjuju | and then do a subquery where the != is |
| 23:41.12 | mindjuju | i'm just not sure that'll work |
| 23:41.36 | mindjuju | but by having the subquery query the table itself again, it effectively loops |
| 23:41.45 | mindjuju | only on the ones that are clocked in, but not out |
| 23:41.54 | dataw0lf | I'd probably do a subselect on the actual violations (clockin clockout), and select out of that based on employee id |
| 23:42.06 | mindjuju | where the subquery is searching for records that are later than the first unclosed entry |
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| 23:56.10 | herlo | anybody near murray that can help me load a couch into and out of a truck in the next 30 mins? |
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| 23:57.20 | unum | herlo: which part of murray? |
| 23:58.22 | herlo | unum: 5300 s 300 w |
| 23:58.46 | influx^^ | Have any of you taken courses on information structures? |
| 23:58.48 | herlo | u-store-it on commerce and about 5000 |
| 23:58.49 | unum | herlo: ya I can help you |
| 23:59.06 | herlo | unum: do you know where that is? |
| 23:59.17 | unum | herlo: ya |
| 23:59.36 | mindjuju | tierra, you still around? |
| 23:59.37 | unum | I drive right by there on my way home |
| 23:59.41 | unum | did you get my pm? |
| 23:59.45 | herlo | unum: passcode is *2000# and I'm at unit c22 |
| 23:59.51 | herlo | unum: no |