IRC log for #uphpu on 20071227

00:05.15timinatorlater gators
00:16.46*** join/#uphpu jgiboney (i=IceChat7@67.107.197.236.ptr.us.xo.net)
00:17.03jgiboneycan javascript be placed inside an echo statement?
00:18.15pelaofelizjgiboney: yep
00:18.32jgiboneytHANKS
00:18.37jgiboneysorry for the caps
00:22.13pelaofeliznae problemo
00:22.59jgiboneyshould this script work?
00:22.59jgiboneyfunction InsertSampleMovie(var movieFileName)
00:26.40pelaofelizit's an incomplete function declaration...
00:27.07jgiboneyi got it off the apple website, so how can i fix it?
00:28.07pelaofelizhrmm...  what exactly are you trying to do?
00:28.25jgiboneyshow a quicktime movie in ie7, hold on i'll get the link
00:29.07jgiboneyhttp://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/embed.html
00:31.00jgiboneyi am getting a "\" on the top of my page now
00:31.34pelaofelizwhat's your code look like?
00:32.03jgiboney"echo '<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">InsertSampleMovie("' . $row['Trailer_File'] . '");</script>';"
00:32.18jgiboney"<script src="InsertMovie.js" language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"></script>"
00:33.40pelaofelizthat looks fine...
00:33.51pelaofelizthat function matches what's on the apple page?
00:34.06jgiboneywell i had to change it to include the variable
00:34.16jgiboney"function InsertSampleMovie(var movieFileName)
00:34.43jgiboneysorry, i don't know how to have it come out right
00:34.48jgiboneyit is trying to execute it
00:35.03pelaofelizk
00:35.08pelaofelizthat looks fine, then...
00:35.41pelaofelizthis line:   document.write(’<object classid="clsid: 02BF25D5..." ...>\n’);
00:35.55pelaofelizisn't literally like that, is it?
00:36.12jgiboneyno
00:36.20jgiboneylet me post it really quick
00:39.08jgiboneyi forgot where i can post it
00:39.16jgiboneywhere is a good place
00:39.27pelaofelizpastebin.com
00:39.58jgiboneyhttp://pastebin.org/12980
00:42.40pelaofelizk, do you have an <object> tag from somewhere besides that function call?
00:43.01jgiboneyno, this is what I used before
00:43.10pelaofelizthe output of that will start:
00:43.11pelaofeliz<object classid="clsid: 02BF25D5..." ...>
00:43.12jgiboneyecho '<EMBED SRC="manage/trailers/' . $row['Trailer_File'] . '" start="fileopen" pluginspage="http://www.quicktime.apple.com/download/" controller=false loop=false autoplay=true>';
00:43.23pelaofeliz...which is an invalid object element
00:44.03pelaofelizyou'll need a valid object element definition
00:44.21jgiboneyokay, i'll try to find one
00:56.07jgiboneyokay, here is what I have now
00:56.08jgiboneyhttp://pastebin.org/12981
00:56.21jgiboneybut it still doesn't work
01:06.39pelaofelizk... the first thing I'd try is get a static page working
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01:06.53jgiboneysounds good
01:11.14jgiboneythank you pelaofeliz, i got it to work, i didn't need the javascript at all though
01:11.18jgiboneyApple lied
01:12.19pelaofelizcurse you, Apple!
01:12.53jgiboneyi didn't need a width and height before
01:12.58jgiboneywith ie 7 you do
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04:51.02jgiboneyi have an idea about my search results, when I type in "surf's" it uses get, and the resulting page has "searchstring=surf%27s". Is mysql looking for the "%27"? Is that why it isn't working?
04:55.28jgiboneyoh that is interesting if I echo my search string I get "surf\\\'s". I am using mysql_real_escape_string. Should it normally have that many "\"s?
05:20.11pelaofelizno
05:20.19pelaofelizit looks like it's escaping it twice
05:20.56jgiboneyi don't know why
05:21.50jgiboneyi am sure that this has something to do with my search not working
05:23.15undertakingyoujgiboney: how often would you have an " ' " in your searches?
05:23.39jgiboneysurf's up, ocean's eleven
05:23.50jgiboneyit will depend on the user
05:24.32Black_Chaosjgiboney: its double escaped because magic quotes is probably on
05:24.55jgiboneyah, yes,
05:25.05jgiboneyi need to set an .htaccess
05:27.03jgiboneythank you, i am pretty sure that solved it
05:28.09jgiboneysee problems are good things. They help you learn
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15:33.05jgiboneyGood morning, what a wonderful day!
15:41.45jsmithGood morning to you too!
15:52.07wpsanyone want a spindle of Sony DVD-Rs?
15:52.09wps:(
15:53.15jsmithwps: Sure... but I don't wanna pay the shipping ;-)
15:53.19jsmithwps: Why?
15:53.40wpswhy burner won't accept them
15:54.01jsmithSeriously?
15:54.01wpsyup
15:54.01jsmithThat stinks...
15:54.14wpsyup
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16:22.04mindjujugreets all
16:23.01jgiboneyHello mindjuju
16:24.20mindjujusup
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16:32.24timinatormornin' mindjuju
16:33.54mindjuju^5 timinator
16:34.35timinator^5 mindjuju
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16:42.44dataw0lfgood morning!
16:43.12jgiboneyGood morning
16:49.39timinatornot too shabby on that one
16:50.11timinatorroughly 2-3 hrs of trancy goodness
16:53.44mindjujuwait, wait... new source of trance?  me starts to tune in
16:54.46dataw0lfuns uns uns uns uns
16:55.38mindjujusup dataw0lf
16:56.37dataw0lfsup sup
17:11.06PoeticIntensityI just got about 5.5 GB of trance from a friend who was into raves back in the day...
17:11.09PoeticIntensity*great* stuff.
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17:14.56herloPoeticIntensity: stuff you can share?
17:15.03PoeticIntensityyup.
17:15.11herlohook a brother up!
17:15.13PoeticIntensityit's all "live" stuff which isn't copyrighted...
17:15.17PoeticIntensitywell...
17:15.18herlonice
17:15.20PoeticIntensityit's a *lot*
17:15.23PoeticIntensityso....
17:15.36PoeticIntensitygetting from the Internet probably isn't a great solution.
17:15.38herloyou should make a streaming shoutcast server so we all can listen...
17:15.42PoeticIntensityhehe...
17:15.45herloPoeticIntensity: true
17:15.51PoeticIntensityif I only had the bandwidth.....
17:16.18herloPoeticIntensity: bandwidth for what?
17:16.18herlorun it at a lower bitrate
17:16.33PoeticIntensityI probably could...
17:16.36PoeticIntensityhrm....
17:16.46herloPoeticIntensity: have you ever set up a icecast server?
17:16.56PoeticIntensityI can't stand listening to music at a low bitrate.... I assumed nobody else could, either.
17:17.04PoeticIntensityI haven't, but I've seen it done first hand...
17:17.07PoeticIntensitydidn't look too hard.
17:17.16herloPoeticIntensity: to hear whether I like it or not, I would
17:17.48herloif you want, I can create a channel at stream.utosf.org:8080 and you could just stream it there with ices2
17:17.49PoeticIntensityI've got 72 hours of new stuff.
17:17.56PoeticIntensityprobably take ya a bit to form an opinion... :)\
17:18.09herloPoeticIntensity: right, exactly my point
17:18.20PoeticIntensityhrm... hrm....
17:18.36PoeticIntensityI've got a bit of work to do right now, but this afternoon, or even tomorrow, I think I' be up to the challenge.
17:18.50PoeticIntensitywould you be around to help, herlo ?
17:20.19herlotomorrow night maybe
17:20.26PoeticIntensityk
17:20.27herloPoeticIntensity: I'm moving into my new home tonight anyway
17:20.33PoeticIntensityI see!
17:20.35PoeticIntensityCongratulations!
17:20.38herloI got the keys yesterday!
17:20.39herlothanks!
17:20.43PoeticIntensitynice!
17:21.01herloMurray
17:21.19herlodon't everyone rush at once! :)
17:31.57timinatoranyone heard of Rebol?
17:32.07timinatorhttp://www.rebol.com/what-rebol.html
17:41.22herlotiminator: looks interesting
17:45.41PoeticIntensity*whew*
17:46.13PoeticIntensityI finally made it with 20 lives in the hard level in Desktop Tower Defense.
17:46.50herloPoeticIntensity: in?
17:47.22PoeticIntensityhuh?
17:47.37PoeticIntensitywas that bad grammar?
17:47.58PoeticIntensityI guess "on the hard level" would have been better.
17:53.11herloherlo: no
17:53.20herloPoeticIntensity: I mean, what game?
17:53.37PoeticIntensityDesktop Tower Defense
17:53.47herlohmm, never heard of it..
17:53.58PoeticIntensitywww.handdrawngames.com
17:54.15PoeticIntensityclick on "group scores" up top.
17:54.16herloI thought that was some level in a game
17:54.19PoeticIntensitythen type in "uphpu"
17:55.01herlohaha, you crack me up
18:01.04PoeticIntensity:)
18:01.10PoeticIntensitythere used to be more scores in there....
18:01.19PoeticIntensitymgeary, orsonj, and mindjuju were playin', too...
18:01.27PoeticIntensitySometime after Christmas, all scores got erased.
18:01.36herlolame-os!
18:01.43PoeticIntensity:-T yup.
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18:41.44fungusDoh, forgot it was 220V.  Gotta get the building electrician to install new circuits.
18:41.46fungus:(
18:48.31mindjujuthat sux
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18:58.34phpguy2007Hello All!
19:02.58mgeary~welcome phpguy2007
19:02.59jbot[all in unison] Hi, phpguy2007!
19:05.29phpguy2007Every one keeps asking me that.. What do you mean exactly Mg?
19:06.00mgearywell, 2007 is almost over
19:06.09mgearyso one wonders what the significance of 2007 in your handle is.
19:06.32phpguy2007OH... Sorry i am slow.. I get it now
19:06.44phpguy2007hahah I may have to.. LOL
19:07.35phpguy2007<phpguy2008>
19:08.07dataw0lftry /nick
19:09.32phpguy2007<?php
19:09.32phpguy2007if ($year == '2008') {
19:09.32phpguy2007echo "<PHPGUY2008>";
19:09.33phpguy2007}else{
19:09.33phpguy2007echo "it must still be 2007";
19:09.33phpguy2007}
19:09.35phpguy2007?>
19:09.38phpguy2007LOL
19:10.11phpguy2007It tells me insufficient parameters datawolf
19:10.38dataw0lftry /nick phpguy2008
19:10.57phpguy2008cool!
19:11.30phpguy2008LOL
19:11.30dataw0lfalright I need to go feed off the tears of one of my teams, bbiab
19:12.27phpguy2008see ya
19:15.53mgearyso, B. Bhutto was just assassinated
19:16.59dataw0lfyup
19:17.05dataw0lfridiculous
19:18.48dataw0lfonly a matter of time, though.
19:18.50influx^^what the hey
19:20.38mgearyi'm suuuure it was a rogue fanatical, though. Surely wasn't connected to our important and close ally Pervez
19:20.47mgearyi mean, that'd be too obvious
19:22.02dataw0lfyea, not like the previous assassination attempts weren't widely regarded as his work or anything.
19:23.59mgearyexactly
19:25.01dataw0lfand of course real enemies of democracy like Musharraf go widely ignored because they serve our purposes, and Bush continues to push for a war against some ephemeral threat instead of handling these very real threats.
19:25.04mgearyand, i mean really, his coup, his suspension of the constitution, and his loud claims that he supports free and fair elections shouldn't really taint our opinion of him
19:25.25dataw0lfyea, it's not like we're supposedly trying to spread democracy or anything.
19:25.47mgearyno. we're involved in Nation Building. oh, wait...
19:26.05dataw0lfbut, hey, a backwater like Iraq is much more important than a nuclear capable country in our efforts to democratize.
19:27.00mgearyan *unstable* nuclear-capable country with a history of regional armed conflicts
19:27.42dataw0lfthat many intelligence agencies suspect of nuclear proliferation
19:29.05mgearyi want some CornNuts™
19:29.10mgeary~cornnuts phpguy2008
19:29.10jbotACTION sends phpguy2008 out for CornNuts™ for everyone. "Mmm, extra crunchy!"
19:29.11dataw0lfoh well.  99% of Americans don't even know who Bhutto is (was), including Bush, I wager.
19:29.16dataw0lfmmm cornnuts
19:29.24dataw0lfI got cornnuts and beef jerky in my stocking this year :)
19:29.30mgearysweet
19:29.36mgearywhat brand/flavor of BJ?
19:29.53dataw0lfy'know, I can't recall.  It was some local shop though.  Tasted pretty good.
19:29.54mgearybut it's got to be slightly tough. none of this tender stuff
19:30.01dataw0lfawh yea.  I'm a beef jerky conossieur.
19:30.09dataw0lfyea, same here, I like tough jerky.
19:30.21mgearyand not stringy
19:30.23dataw0lfespecially peppered beef jerky mmmm
19:30.26mgearyyeah
19:30.55mgearythough i had some teriyaki beef jerky a while ago that was particularly nice
19:31.03dataw0lfreally?  I don't dig too much on the teriyaki.
19:31.08mgearyi don't usually either
19:31.15mgearybut this was really good. Wish i could remember the brand
19:31.24dataw0lfI had some homemade teriyaki venison jerky one time that was pretty swell.
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19:32.32dataw0lfspeaking of (kinda), I've heard that I can't use my AR-15 for deer hunting in Nevada.  
19:32.42dataw0lfI need to look into this
19:33.01mgeary~greet squidly
19:33.02jbotACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on squidly
19:33.02jsmithdataw0lf: Would it make you jealous if I told you two deer ran across the field I was shooting in this morning?
19:33.19squidlyahh
19:33.22dataw0lfjsmith: yes, yes it would.  I miss the midwest / east with it's huge overabundance of deer.
19:33.23squidlycold oatmeal? eww
19:33.38mindjujuand trees
19:33.56jsmithdataw0lf: I was trying out the new shotgun (shooting clay pigeons) and two deer ran in front of me not more than 115 yards away
19:34.02dataw0lfwe got a lot of trees here.  I prefer conifers to decidious anyway.
19:34.17jsmithdataw0lf: They were white-tails, so they weren't that big...
19:34.25dataw0lfjsmith: did you unconsciously start leading them?
19:34.39jsmithI had about 25 head of deer come through my back yard last week (including a nice 6-point buck)
19:34.41mindjujui'll take any kind of tree over the overgrown brush we have here
19:34.44dataw0lfI did that one time when qualifying on the .50 cal machine gun in Germany, a deer ran out, and I almost tore it to pieces automatically.
19:34.57dataw0lfjsmith: nice
19:35.26dataw0lfit's pretty much your duty to kill em, y'know.  Overpopulation can be bad.
19:35.27dataw0lf;-)
19:35.31mgearyawwww
19:35.50dataw0lfI love em too.  Especially with steak sauce.
19:35.52jsmithmgeary: I love them too... they're very tasty
19:35.52mgearyhahaah
19:36.00jsmithdataw0lf: You beat me again!
19:36.08mindjujubambi chili is way yummy
19:36.10dataw0lf:)
19:36.20jsmithI still prefer bambi jerky
19:36.49herlo<homer>mmm, bambi</homer>
19:37.05squidlylol
19:37.07phpguy2008Hey FYI Bhutto assination in on cnn's site
19:37.13phpguy2008is on
19:45.39mgeary~lazybum mindjuju
19:46.24mindjujuyeah, i strolled into office @ 11a
19:52.04mgeary~yourefired mindjuju
19:52.04mgeary;)
19:52.04mindjujulucky me
19:52.32mindjujunow i'll have time to start that symphony i've always wanted to right
19:54.16mindjujuerrr... write, i mean
19:54.51mgearyhey, anyone here used SimpleXML to generate XML? i've used it to parse, but not generate. looking for some sample code. The docs on php.net aren't giving me what i want
19:56.48mindjujuseems like dataw0lf has
19:57.23timinatordataw0lf has done everything!!
19:58.51dataw0lfmgeary: to generate XML?  Generally I use it to handle existing XML documents grabbed from an external page.
19:59.03mgearyyeah, me too
19:59.04dataw0lfLet me see if I have any specific examples of SimpleXML generation.
19:59.16dataw0lf(btw SimpleXML is probably the best thing about PHP 5)
19:59.33mgearynah, the improved OOP support is, but i'm growing fonder of SXML
20:00.39dataw0lfwell SimpleXML uses all the good OOP stuff PHP added, while ignoring most of the bad stuff.
20:00.57dataw0lfmethod chaining, special method iteration inclusion, etc
20:01.10dataw0lf(that would be the good stuff)
20:09.40phpguy2008How do you guys generate the XML. What application would it be used for?
20:09.51phpguy2008Give me an example
20:13.03dataw0lfmgeary: here's a gutted class from one of our internal applications that I wrote.  it might help (a bit):  http://stderr.ws/media/xmlOBJ.php.txt
20:13.30mgearythanks, i'll take a look
20:14.13mindjujupretty sexy code there dataw0lf
20:14.32dataw0lfmeh, it's ok.
20:14.48mindjujusexy, i say!
20:15.03dataw0lfthanks :)
20:16.11dataw0lf3D/win 5
20:16.13dataw0lfack
20:19.30phpguy2008What is the best way to learn OOP
20:19.59mgearytalk to us
20:20.17dataw0lfdo everything in procedural for a couple years.
20:21.21dataw0lf"Gawrsh I wish my array could have associated functions in it's own namespace"
20:21.22dataw0lfFinit.
20:23.47PoeticIntensitymgeary, I used the DOM in PHP to create XML.
20:23.57PoeticIntensityI didn't know SimpleXML could create XML (use it all the time to parse, though)
20:24.43dataw0lfPoeticIntensity: sure you can.  You can add elements, attributes, values
20:24.54PoeticIntensitycool.
20:25.25PoeticIntensityI've been looking into a good tutorial for learning Python from a "coming from PHP" perspective.
20:25.30PoeticIntensityanything you would recommend, dataw0lf ?
20:27.06herloPoeticIntensity: I'd suggest learning django
20:27.33herlohttp://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/tutorial01/
20:27.45herloI followed that and learned enough to get by in a few hours.  
20:27.54herloattached to it are the constructs you'll need
20:28.09herlodjango is python++
20:28.18herloits a great little framework
20:31.46jsmithPoeticIntensity: Did you try the free "Dive into Python" book?
20:32.51mindjujuhttp://ap.washingtontimes.com/dynamic/stories/O/ODD_RELIGIOUS_LAWSUIT?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-12-21-22-10-40
20:33.16herlo~tinyurl mindjuju
20:33.16jbotACTION installs the firefox tinyurl plugin on mindjuju
20:38.55dataw0lfPoeticIntensity: byteofpython.info / diveintopython.org
20:38.58dataw0lfboth free books
20:39.24dataw0lfLearning Python by O'Reilly is excellent if you decide that Python is a language you'd like to invest a couple bucks in.
20:39.42dataw0lfCore Python Programming is my favorite reference.
20:40.13herloI think I have that book somewhere...
21:03.52mgearyhey, anyone know of a way to inject a field into a DATE_SUB() function like this: DATE_SUB(table1.field1, INTERVAL table1.field2), where table1.field2 contains values like "1 DAY"
21:07.56jsmithSELECT DATE_SUB(table1.field1, INTERVAL table1.field2) FROM table1 WHERE table1.field2 like "%1 DAY%";
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21:26.38Lone_WandererAnyone here ever develop a facebook app?
21:31.37Lone_WandererAny idea how to let a user download a file?
21:35.48dataw0lfhmm, nope.
21:36.13Lone_WandererIt would be kind of sad if I did all that work getting antiword to work and then we couldn't use it.
21:36.35Lone_WandererGood job.  He deserved it.
21:36.54mgearyturns out you CAN pass a field for the duration (1), but not the unit (DAY)
21:37.07mgearyso we've just modified the DB structure to store # of days
21:37.20jsmithmgeary: What was that for?
21:38.14mindjujuOh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being  repressed!
21:39.06influx^^haha
21:46.12Lone_WandererIf you have an iframe on a page, can the iframe send a file download?
21:46.47mindjujuif i understand correctly, the answer is yes
21:47.06mindjujuyou can make the source of an iframe a file location prompting the client with a download dialog
21:47.28mindjujua quick note though on iframes
21:47.29mgearytrying to download a file without changing your location, Lone_Wanderer ?
21:48.00Lone_Wandererno, I'm developing a facebook application
21:48.09mindjujuis the iframe going to be in plain site or are you going to try to hide it?
21:48.11Lone_Wanderereverything's got to be wrapped in the Facebook frame.  EVERYTHING.
21:48.29mindjujui've heard some browsers don't take kindly to iframe with hieght and wideth of 1
21:48.55mindjujunor a display:hidden
21:49.23mindjujunot sure understood question
21:49.56influx^^w/ 2
21:50.18Lone_Wandererwell, in a facebook app, you've got to wrap everything in the facebook "frame", if you will.
21:50.31Lone_WandererJust the HTML that goes around it.
21:50.57Lone_WandererSo you can't send a download directly, 'cause the headers get sent before your content starts to show up.
21:51.00Lone_WandererMake sense?
21:52.16macnewboldLone_Wanderer: you might be in luck, cause the iframe is a separate HTTP request that has its own headers and such
21:53.32macnewboldlemme know what you find
21:56.25mindjujudag nab cyber squatters
21:57.43Lone_WandererI hate how my connection dies if I don't keep it active.
21:58.54mindjujuwps, did you see you got some cybersquatters on uphpu.com and ugaf.com
21:59.14mindjujucybersquatters barely better than the crud that infects the mucus that feeds on pond scum
21:59.28wpswhere?
21:59.52mindjujuhttp://www.uphpu.com/
22:00.15wpsah
22:00.38mgearylegalized extortion
22:00.39wps"cybersquatter" hadn't registered in the brain yet until you posted the link :)
22:00.45wpsI agree
22:00.53wpsI think that that should be illegal
22:01.07Lone_WandererSue them?
22:01.16Lone_WandererIt might be cheaper than buying the domain.
22:01.27Lone_WandererDepending on where the lawsuit would have to take place.
22:01.45mindjujuyeah, could go to ICANN and argue that wade had the brand before anybody else, and he is rightful owner
22:01.52mgearyi'm off for a long weekend. later folks!
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22:01.56mindjujucya mgeary
22:01.57Lone_Wandererthey'd tell you to go away
22:02.03Lone_Wandereryou have to get a court order first
22:02.16mindjujuoh, i thought you could file a complaint with them first
22:02.18Lone_Wandererbut doing that shouldn't be hard, if he could sue them in Utah
22:02.20mindjujudon't know though
22:02.23wpsthis the very reason that I think that TLDs are stupid
22:02.26Lone_Wanderermight could, Iunno
22:02.30wpsI don't understand why in the world they exist
22:02.42Lone_WandererYou just want to register uphpu. ?
22:02.46wpsyup
22:03.05Lone_Wandererand then when we run out of domains...?
22:03.29wpsI can't believe how much money companies have to waste to register their company name in every stupid TLD and country domain
22:03.32wpsit's rediculous
22:03.32mindjujuwe've already run out of domains, hence web 2.0 crazy names like squidoo
22:03.35mindjujuand such
22:03.51Lone_WandererIt's bluediculous too.  And greendiculous.  But definitely rediculous.
22:04.18wpsif I am Nike, I shouldn't have to register nike.com, nike.biz, nike.net and on and on
22:04.29wpsI am Nike and should be able to just be http://nike
22:04.48wpsand country-specific domains are even worse
22:04.56wpsisn't it supposed to be the world-wide web?
22:05.10wpsand .mobi really gets my goat
22:05.18mindjujuyeah, there are like 200 country extensions
22:05.18Lone_Wanderer...
22:05.19wpswhy do you need a TLD for mobile devices?
22:05.20Lone_Wandererthat's retarded
22:05.39Lone_Wandererunless I get to have dan.mobi, which points to my mobile device.
22:05.43wpsany good website should just detect their agent and serve the appropriate content
22:05.49Lone_WandererIndeed.
22:06.00wpssame for language… detect their country and serve your site up in the appropriate language
22:06.04dataw0lfyou guys hear about the San Francisco tiger?
22:06.15wpsyeah, that's nuts, dataw0lf
22:06.31Lone_Wandererthe one that got out?
22:06.32dataw0lftoo bad she didn't get the other two before they killed her.
22:06.35Lone_WandererI heard about it vaguely.
22:06.39dataw0lfDarwin: 1 for 3
22:06.50mindjujui thought she chewed on all 3, but killed the one
22:06.59mindjujuwhy too bad?  
22:06.59dataw0lfyea, she only killed the one, unfortunately.
22:07.19dataw0lfbecause the one that got killed is believed to have been dangling his legs inside the enclosure, they think that's how she got out.
22:07.32dataw0lfshe then tracked the other two down after they fled.
22:07.40Lone_WandererYou know, to keep people from sticking their limbs inside cages, they should put dangerous animals inside them.
22:07.41dataw0lfthey must've really, really pissed her off.
22:07.49mindjujuoh, hadn't heard that.  i heard the possability of taunting, but didn't know it was confirmed
22:08.17dataw0lfit hasn't been confirmed, but they found a shoe inside the cage and prints of the victim on the inner and outer fence.
22:08.20mindjujuwell, she gnawed some zookeepers arm last year
22:08.28mindjujuoh
22:08.29dataw0lfshe's a tiger
22:08.34dataw0lfTIGERS are predators.
22:08.46dataw0lfthey gnaw on lifeforms lower on the food chain.
22:08.49dataw0lfit's what they do.
22:08.54mindjujuyeah, true that
22:09.01mindjujudidn't know about the shoe , i meant
22:09.04dataw0lfah
22:09.48dataw0lfI just don't know why everyone is raising a fuss about her gnawing on some zookeeper's arm.  It happens.  The zookeeper was an idiot and stuck her hand inside the cage.  It's a risky situation.  Tigers don't conform to our safety guidelines.
22:10.49mindjujusounds like you know more about the situation than I do , just heard about the gnaw, don't know what happened
22:11.37dataw0lfI'm just generally pissed that because of some idiots a tiger got killed doing what nature intended for her to do.
22:11.38Lone_WandererTime to go home, bye folks.
22:11.42dataw0lfcya LW
22:11.51mindjujucya LW
22:11.57Lone_WandererYeah.  We've got plenty of idiots, but we're running out of tigers.
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22:20.34timinatorI'm out too... later guys
22:20.44mindjujucya
22:20.49wpsI was never in!
22:20.53timinatorLOL
22:20.53wpsbooyah
22:20.59mindjujuyeah, i'm jealous wps
22:21.09mindjujudid a little work from home, but came in at 11
22:21.21jsmithwps: Enjoy it while you can.
22:29.39dataw0lf:| today was my first day back
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