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00:41.50beandogis anyone else stuck in a blizzared
00:41.53beandogblizzard
00:46.01herlobeandog: we just got out of one...
00:46.07beandogherlo, where you at
00:46.30herlomurray
00:46.39herlostuck at heartsbane's house for now
00:47.13beandogthat bad huh
00:50.49herloyup
00:53.41macnewboldmindjuju: do you know anyone planning to come to the "Ruby on Rails for PHP programmers" Lunch-n-Learn tomorrow?
01:03.33mgearylater folks
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02:35.47macnewbold~ping mindjuju
02:35.48jbotpong mindjuju
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03:27.59influx^^http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinmoreno
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04:32.57squidlyhello everone hows it going?
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15:39.23timinatorat ease, soldier.
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16:20.31Lone_WandererWhere's Mac when you need him?
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16:29.32SunSparcDoes that help?
16:33.37Lone_WandererI'm on a Mac at the moment.
16:34.00Lone_WandererDo you know anything about character mapping files?  Including what, exactly, they are?
16:42.07mgearywhat is it you're after, Lone_Wanderer?
16:50.16Lone_WandererLooks like I found it.
16:51.03Lone_Wandererftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/ISO8859/8859-1.TXT
16:51.07Lone_Wandererin case anyone's curious
17:01.42herloanyone drive in SL County today?  I'm heading out for work in a few and wanted to know how the roads were...
17:01.50mgearyLone_Wanderer, i'm curious what you needed that for
17:02.01SunSparcSorry, I made my comment and then left.
17:03.42Lone_Wanderera program called antiword
17:03.53Lone_Wandererit takes word documents and puts them into plain text, pdf, or ps format
17:04.08Lone_Wandererto make a pdf or ps document it requires a character mapping file
17:04.23Lone_Wanderernot me herlo, sorry
17:04.32Lone_WandererI had the pleasure of walking to work today.
17:04.44herloLone_Wanderer: ooooh, that doesn't sound fun
17:04.52Lone_WandererIt's not very far
17:05.00Lone_Wandererbut I was still annoyed with my lazy family
17:05.48Lone_Wandererand now I'm annoyed with antiword for not managing images correctly
17:07.20brastoI drove to the very first exit in sl county - all was good that far ;)
17:07.33brastocan't say anything for any further than the prison exit though.
17:08.30herlobrasto: that's a good bit of info though...point of the mountain is always hairy
17:08.50dataw0lfyay half day
17:09.06brastotrue
17:23.32PoeticIntensityis the beer good at work today, dataw0lf ?
17:30.14Lone_Wandereroh, speaking of beer
17:30.29Lone_WandererI need to find out where to get some of the seasonal brews I've been reading about
17:30.34Lone_Wandererutahbeer.blogspot.com
17:32.37dataw0lfPoeticIntensity: I'm not drinking AT work, but at the lunch party
17:32.47PoeticIntensityah....
17:32.54dataw0lfbut I'm sure it'll be awesome.  
17:32.56dataw0lffat tire++
17:33.01PoeticIntensityheh.... that'd be quite entertaining.....
17:33.06PoeticIntensityeveryone walking around drunk while working... :)
17:33.23Lone_WandererHey... *hic*... could you shend me that...
17:33.29PoeticIntensityLOL
17:33.31PoeticIntensityexactly...
17:33.33PoeticIntensityhehehe...
17:33.47dataw0lfPYTHON ROOLZ PHP DROOLZ
17:35.19Lone_Wandererdw, do you follow xkcd?
17:36.37Lone_Wandererhttp://www.xkcd.com/353/ <- dataw0lf
17:38.04mgeary~ping fungus
17:38.05jbotpong fungus
17:38.15fungusI feel dirty.  I just used the <blink> tag
17:38.22mgearyeww
17:38.37fungusI was told to by management on our internal webmail.
17:39.50Lone_WandererWhen management tells you to use the blink tag, it's time to tell management to... (insert witty response which uses the word "blink" here)
17:40.12mgearysuuuure, Lone_Wanderer, i'm sure you told your DS off all the time
17:40.35Lone_WandererNo, but I swore at the PG all the time.
17:40.46mgearyPG?
17:41.16Lone_Wanderer"Crookston, go help Cannon with the chow hall detail."  "*@#* your (!@*# @#$*#@$ !*@#@#*$# @#!  And !@*# your @!#$ing mother, too!"
17:41.38Lone_Wanderer(As I went to the chowhall to help with the detail...)
17:41.45Lone_WandererPlatoon Guide.  Student leadership position.
17:42.27timinatorupdating.... BRB
17:44.13mindjuju~APB macnewbold
17:44.14jbotACTION calls Tim to rough up macnewbold
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18:00.18mindjujusup timinator
18:01.12timinatortrying to update some software, and so far, it's not going perfectly
18:01.14timinatorBRB
18:17.19mgeary~headache
18:17.20jbotnot tonight mgeary, I've got a modem.
18:18.44Lone_Wanderer~headache
18:18.45jbotnot tonight lone_wanderer, I've got a modem.
18:21.39Lone_Wanderer-help headache
18:21.52Lone_Wanderer~lart sneaky bugs
18:21.52jbotturns sneaky bugs into a lifesized tux doll
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18:30.41timinatorI'm back
18:30.45timinatorback in black
18:30.47timinator:)
18:32.21mgearyfungus: do you remember what the older equivalent of rndc is (for my OS X 10.2. machine?)
18:32.41funguscheck for ndc
18:32.49mgearyyes
18:32.54mgearyhave it
18:33.00mgearysame command, but with ndc?
18:33.02fungusThat is the old Bind 8 tool
18:33.09funguspretty much.
18:33.23fungusit is lacking many features, but the important ones are there.
18:33.58mgearygot it
18:34.00mgearythanks
18:37.43Lone_WandererYay!
18:37.50Lone_WandererFixed the slippery bug.
18:38.51mgearyalways is
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18:53.38Lone_Wanderer3,000,000 bytes is (very roughly) 3... megs, right?
18:55.27SunSparcYes
18:55.30herloin si unites, ues
18:55.32herloyes
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18:57.28Lone_Wandererkk
18:57.35Lone_Wandererthat should be plenty big for anyone's resume :p
18:59.10dataw0lfLone_Wanderer: what about those of us who include spectral analysis of our brain in our resumes?!?!  HMMM?!?!
18:59.26Lone_WandererI've got that base covered as well.
18:59.48Lone_WandererIn my "bug" report, rather than put the actual file size limit, I put that it should allow for "virtually any" resume.
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19:02.26dataw0lflinkedin has absorbed my soul.  I really like the UI.
19:02.38Lone_WandererWhat's linkedin?
19:03.25dataw0lfprofessional networking site
19:03.29dataw0lfhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasimpson
19:06.28Lone_WandererAhh, I see.
19:08.13Lone_Wandererdataw0lf: What's the farthest you've ever low crawled?
19:08.42dataw0lfLone_Wanderer: I dunno.  Maybe 1/2-3/4 of a mile.
19:09.28Lone_Wandererk
19:09.35dataw0lfwhy?
19:09.48Lone_WandererWe had to low crawl about that distance on our FTX.
19:10.05Lone_WandererBecause our PG and squad leaders screwed up when reacting to contacat.
19:10.08Lone_Wanderercontact, too
19:10.14dataw0lfyea.  I low crawled all over Afghanistan, but I really couldn't tell you how far
19:10.38Lone_Wandererahh, gotcha
19:12.01SunSparcdataw0lf: Would you recommend low crawling in Afghanistan to anyone?
19:12.01Lone_WandererIf he was low crawling he was probably under fire or trying to avoid being seen.
19:12.01Lone_WandererWhich is not, from what I understand, fun.
19:12.02dataw0lfwhen a squad two miles from you gets hit with indirect fire and you're pretty sure that the spotter is on a hill 3 miles to the north within visibility?  Yea.
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19:13.00SunSparcdataw0lf: Sounds like an adventure.
19:13.22SunSparcThank you for doing it for us.
19:14.28dataw0lfan adventure? heh.
19:14.39dataw0lfyea, I levelled up to 15th on that mission.
19:14.45dataw0lfGot the "Chain Lightning" spell.
19:14.58SunSparcSWEET!
19:15.07Lone_WandererDoes that require the mk19 to cast?
19:15.27Lone_Wandererby the way, what's the M mean?  Everything's M this or M that.
19:15.41SunSparcmilitary
19:16.04SunSparcmunitions
19:16.15dataw0lfLone_Wanderer: munitions, mostly.  it's a qualifier.
19:16.20jsmithMunitions Ready to Eat?
19:16.26dataw0lfbut, nah, we didn't use a mk19 on that guy
19:16.34dataw0lftwo of us flanked him and used an m203 ;-)
19:16.47Lone_WandererI just meant that the mk19 might help you cast chain lightning.
19:16.51dataw0lftried mortaring at first but he was dug in and we couldn't get a fix.
19:17.21dataw0lfmk19 is like "Stream of Fireballs"
19:17.34Lone_Wanderermk19 is like "omgsosexy"
19:17.44Lone_WandererSo, in a situation like that
19:18.04SunSparchttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk19
19:18.07Lone_Wandererdid you go up and search him and the area after you killed him?
19:18.29dataw0lfyea
19:18.42dataw0lfaggressive small unit recon baby
19:18.59Lone_WandererWe spent a lot of time practicing sweeping an objective and doing EPW searches.
19:19.24Lone_Wanderer(Including a lot of time having "Kill them the first time through because after that you're not allowed to any more" emphasized)
19:19.43dataw0lfit's true.  EPWs will just slow you down.
19:19.53Lone_WandererJa.
19:19.57dataw0lfespecially in Afghanistan, once you get an EPW you're way more likely of getting hit.
19:20.20Lone_Wanderer'Cause you can't move fast or because they make a big fuss and attract attention?  Or both?
19:20.23dataw0lftoward the end though we were monitoring all their radio chatter, so we were usually the surpriser
19:20.34dataw0lfactually they don't usually make a fuss.
19:20.47dataw0lfmostly because the way they set up outlook posts
19:21.09dataw0lfthey're usually within eye sight of each other so if you take down one you gotta move out of the area really quick or you'll be converged upon
19:21.22Lone_Wandererahh
19:21.49dataw0lfand EPWs just slow things down.  You have to throw them in restraints which makes them slower.  Plus the fact that they're not in the mindset of running fullspeed after being captured.
19:21.50Lone_WandererSmart buggers.  It's like they're in a war or something.
19:22.39dataw0lflot of SF guys will just rifle butt them to the head and throw them over their shoulders, but most soldiers don't have that CIA umbrella of protection for their actions.
19:23.43Lone_WandererYeah, I've heard that SF guys can get away with just about anything.
19:24.00Lone_WandererIncluding telling officers to go !#$% themselves.
19:25.51Lone_WandererNow I'm going to lunch for real.
19:35.19mgearywe should set up a high scores group for DTD
19:35.51mindjujuPoeticIntensity did, but i lost the link to the page
19:35.58mindjujuthere is a uphpu group
19:36.05PoeticIntensityuhhh....?
19:36.06mindjujuwas thinking we should challenge plug group
19:36.15PoeticIntensityer....?
19:36.17mindjujuDTD poeticintensity
19:36.17PoeticIntensityin what?
19:36.24PoeticIntensityAH!
19:36.25mindjujuDesktop Tower Defense
19:36.28PoeticIntensitywww.handdrawngames.com
19:37.02PoeticIntensityyeah....  just put "uphpu" in for the group, and you'll be "hip".
19:37.10PoeticIntensityonly orsonj and me have posted scores.
19:37.22PoeticIntensityI'd dig the challenge!
19:38.19mindjujuhave i got a story for you guys
19:39.20mindjujua coworker comes in early to work because of the snow, and the management is running a little late (because of the snow), so this coworker opens the door -- looks at the alarm and without deactivating it, goes to her desk and sits down
19:39.28mindjujudoesn't call a soul
19:39.54tierrahaha
19:41.05mindjujutalk about crazy
19:41.21PoeticIntensityso did the Fuzz come?
19:41.25mindjujuyup
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19:41.40PoeticIntensitydid this "coworker" know the code to deactivate?
19:42.06mindjujuno, but if you look at the front plate, it has phone numbers to call if it is going off
19:42.31mindjujuand it is cell phone and home numbers of about 5 people (coworkers) who could have handled the situation in their PJs
19:42.31tierrayeah, but the number isn't much good without the code
19:42.46tierrathose would be more helpful
19:45.30fungusw00t!  I just got this delivered.
19:45.31fungushttp://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/
19:47.40mindjuju12 - 48T in 4Us?
19:47.49fungusYup.
19:47.58fungusMine has 12-1TB drives
19:49.41fungusYeah, price is really high, but it is relatively cheap compared to other options of similar caliber.
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19:51.46mindjujufungus, after you get it into place, you have to write a review
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19:52.16fungusYeah, I totally will.
19:52.25mindjujunobody has reviewed it yet, so yours will be the absolute top
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19:54.39fungusI probably won't have time to get it in the rack and powered on until next week though.
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19:56.07Lone_WandererI haven't even played DTD yet and I'm already getting addicted.
19:57.09PoeticIntensityhehe....
19:57.15PoeticIntensityc'mon Lone_Wanderer... It's Christmas!
19:57.21PoeticIntensitytime for a little DTD.
19:57.24Lone_WandererI'm still at work though.
19:59.07Lone_Wandererdataw0lf: I forgot what I was going to... oh yes.  Does your state's NG have helicopters?
19:59.37dataw0lfyes.
19:59.43Lone_Wandererk
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19:59.46Lone_Wandererwhat kind?
19:59.52brastolol, a co-worker found this:
20:00.01brasto~stupid bot
20:00.03jbotStupid human.
20:00.12dataw0lfKiowas and Black Hawks for sure.
20:00.19brasto~dumb bot
20:00.19jbotstupid human
20:01.46Lone_Wandererk
20:02.23Lone_WandererWhat do Kiowas do?
20:03.50dataw0lfobservation, clean up, sometimes drop tiny squads off
20:04.46Lone_Wandererk
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20:33.22mindjujudarn, i stink
20:33.34Lone_WandererYeah you do.
20:33.40Lone_WandererI didn't want to mention it, but since you brought it up...
20:33.44mindjujuheh
20:33.58Lone_WandererIt's called Speedstick.  It's not expensive.
20:33.58mindjujui mean at DTD, my first game and i only cleared 1127
20:34.01Lone_Wanderer;)
20:34.18mindjujubut now i'm going to take on PI's score!
20:34.25PoeticIntensityhehe.....
20:34.40PoeticIntensityI'm totally and utterly and in all other ways completely addicted to DTD.
20:40.03brastomindjuju? PoeticIntensity? dtd?  Document Type Definition?
20:40.07brastojk
20:41.24timinatorLovin' it  :)
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20:54.52Lone_WandererDoes anyone know what the Firefox plugin is that lets you examine the CSS on elements within any page?
20:56.44mgearyfirebug?
20:57.25Lone_WandererThat sounds familiar.
20:58.09Lone_WandererI believe this is the one.
20:58.26dataw0lffirebug++
20:58.31dataw0lflet's you do pretty much everything.
20:59.01Lone_WandererYes!  I love firebug.
20:59.43Lone_WandererI don't love Chatzilla.
20:59.45Lone_Wandererbeb
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21:46.54mgeary~yow
21:49.28Lone_Wanderer~wiki polyvinyl chloride
21:49.41Lone_Wandererahh, yes
21:58.30orsonjodd, our hosting service didn't seem to deploy an update to all the servers. I randomly get either an old page, or the new one.
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22:51.19PoeticIntensityhey mindjuju ..... you made it on the DTD scoreboard!
22:52.10mindjujuyeah, but didn't do very well
22:52.22mindjuju:(
22:53.10PoeticIntensityneither did I, after playing for only a week.
22:53.10PoeticIntensity:)
22:53.18PoeticIntensitytime, buddy, time...
22:53.25mindjuju:)
22:53.41mindjujuthen i started playing the fun level, then got drafted back to work on some small touch ups
22:53.49mindjujuthat "fun" levle is pretty cool
22:55.25PoeticIntensityyeah...
22:55.28PoeticIntensitywhich "fun" one?
22:55.30PoeticIntensitythe 10K?
22:55.41mindjujuyeah
22:55.45PoeticIntensityaw yeah...
22:56.08mindjujuit was pretty easy with 10k, so i'd click to start the new waves, like 15 in a row
22:56.25PoeticIntensityright.... but I'll bet ya didn't make it the whole way through... :)
22:56.41mindjujulevel 72 i think?  
22:56.48PoeticIntensityyup... there's 100 on that one.
22:56.56PoeticIntensityI've never made it through.
22:56.58mindjujuyeah, the strategy changes
22:57.05PoeticIntensityyup.
22:57.13PoeticIntensitythere's a technique called 'bouncing'...
22:57.19mindjujuyou have to do maximum group damage instead of max individual
22:57.24PoeticIntensityand for the 10K one, it's impossible to make it all the way without bouncing.
22:57.38mindjujunot sure what bouncing is
22:57.38PoeticIntensity(or so I've heard)
22:57.41PoeticIntensityhold on...
22:58.10Lone_WandererIs there a way to convert postscript to html?
22:58.52orsonjprobably, google can do it. (doesn't mean it is easy)
22:58.53mgearyLone_Wanderer: not easily
22:59.19PoeticIntensityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFubqrza9k
22:59.24PoeticIntensitytake a look at that, mindjuju
22:59.26PoeticIntensityhe bounces.
23:01.08mindjujuis that what you did to get to 8k?
23:02.02PoeticIntensitynope...
23:02.03PoeticIntensityI've never done it.
23:02.09PoeticIntensitytried once, but it's freakin' hard.
23:03.14mindjujuwell, watching this video makes me feel better, my strategy is almost identical
23:03.22PoeticIntensityright now I'm just trying to figure out a way to get past the "hard" level without any getting by.
23:03.22mindjujujust need to tweak a little
23:08.29mgearythat's just gross
23:09.30orsonjoh, I didn't realize you could use multiple hospitals on the same tower
23:10.19mindjujumultiple hospitals?
23:12.10orsonjon the hard level they boost the dammage that touching towers do
23:12.19orsonjI just say hospital because of the cross on them
23:12.25mindjujuoh
23:13.15mgearyanyone know of a HTML technique to group text & images together and prevent them from wrapping? sort of a <nowrap>asdf asdfasdfasdf<img asdfasd>asfa</nowrap>
23:14.48mindjujuwrap / layout in a div
23:15.10mindjujusurrounding HTML will treat contents of the DIV as a whole
23:16.39mgearycan't
23:16.49mgearyit's inline
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