| 00:00.05 | thebigdog | i need to upload some cool actions of me rocking it |
| 00:02.18 | mindjuju | so that link you sent over soundx pretty cool |
| 00:02.31 | thebigdog | macnewbold probably would be down for some mate in a picture |
| 00:02.38 | thebigdog | which link? |
| 00:02.49 | mindjuju | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds.html |
| 00:04.16 | thebigdog | yeah it is pretty fun |
| 00:04.27 | thebigdog | i thought soundx was some app or something |
| 00:04.51 | mindjuju | too bad they can't have an FPS mmorpg |
| 00:05.04 | thebigdog | ;( |
| 00:05.31 | brasto | ~give everyone in #uphpu some kudo bars |
| 00:05.31 | jbot | ACTION gives in #uphpu some kudo bars to everyone |
| 00:05.57 | mindjuju | where like you have real objectives, and if your group takes over that one buidling, then it really is yours until they take it back |
| 00:06.22 | thebigdog | they do have that |
| 00:06.27 | mindjuju | where? |
| 00:06.31 | mindjuju | eve online? |
| 00:06.42 | thebigdog | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/halaa/halaa.xml |
| 00:07.14 | thebigdog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA3lm05JKhc |
| 00:07.17 | mindjuju | what's up with that page, i'm seeing pants, and leggings |
| 00:07.22 | thebigdog | not sure the quality of that |
| 00:07.28 | thebigdog | watch the video |
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| 00:08.07 | thebigdog | it is a little city you fight for control |
| 00:08.16 | thebigdog | there are other things like that too |
| 00:08.21 | mindjuju | yeah, but weren't you saying a battleground is something where everybod goes to a certain place duke it out and somebody comes out a winner and others come out loosers |
| 00:08.23 | thebigdog | where you take over towers and such |
| 00:08.30 | thebigdog | yes |
| 00:08.40 | thebigdog | these are places in the game that you go and fight over |
| 00:08.43 | thebigdog | called world pvp |
| 00:09.00 | mindjuju | so could you take over an alliance village and make it horde? |
| 00:09.11 | mindjuju | and everybody ont he server would now see a horde village? |
| 00:09.12 | thebigdog | yes if they have control |
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| 00:09.27 | thebigdog | the villiage is open for control |
| 00:09.34 | thebigdog | you fight for control |
| 00:09.55 | thebigdog | here is where you bomb the guards of the city http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDTLCQ9ijcI&feature=related |
| 00:09.56 | mindjuju | and the village is part of the normal world of warcraft, not like an isolated place only used to fight? |
| 00:10.03 | thebigdog | correct |
| 00:10.06 | thebigdog | it is world pvp |
| 00:10.18 | mindjuju | oh, well, that's cool |
| 00:10.21 | thebigdog | so when you have control you can go and purchase those items that i showed you |
| 00:10.23 | mindjuju | that's what i'm looking for |
| 00:10.26 | thebigdog | there are other places too |
| 00:11.09 | thebigdog | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/outdoorpvp.xml |
| 00:11.10 | mindjuju | so say, 1000s of alliance could log in at 2am, and go and sweep a horde village when most horde people are sleeping? |
| 00:11.23 | jsmith | wps: Finally getting around to checking it out now |
| 00:11.27 | thebigdog | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/worldpvp/index.xml |
| 00:11.39 | thebigdog | yes they can |
| 00:11.47 | mindjuju | dat cool |
| 00:11.51 | thebigdog | you can raid major cities and kill the leaders |
| 00:11.56 | thebigdog | and they drop the fattest loot |
| 00:12.37 | thebigdog | like alli have raided http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=1497 |
| 00:12.39 | thebigdog | undercity |
| 00:13.10 | thebigdog | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=1497#npcs:0-2+1 |
| 00:13.19 | thebigdog | the top 2 npcs are hard as can be |
| 00:13.31 | thebigdog | lady sylvanas and varimathras |
| 00:13.35 | mindjuju | so when you log out, does your dude just stand around in that city or is he disappear from the game entirely? |
| 00:13.50 | mindjuju | and if in the city, when city attacked, could your dude be killed when you're not around? |
| 00:14.04 | thebigdog | disappears |
| 00:14.10 | mindjuju | oh |
| 00:14.20 | thebigdog | video of assault on undercity - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2156731709954982641 |
| 00:14.23 | mindjuju | that's pretty cool |
| 00:14.50 | thebigdog | the big wind demon guy |
| 00:15.10 | thebigdog | you have to have man power for that |
| 00:16.08 | mindjuju | cool song playing for the video |
| 00:16.32 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 00:17.08 | thebigdog | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2473637700323666445 |
| 00:17.10 | mindjuju | waht's that green laser stuff comeing from thoses dudes |
| 00:17.54 | thebigdog | spells |
| 00:18.00 | thebigdog | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3285597576476975355 |
| 00:20.10 | thebigdog | back when players only got to lvl 60 it was harder on the raids...no it is easier |
| 00:20.29 | mindjuju | how long does it take to get to 60? |
| 00:22.25 | fungus | months |
| 00:22.55 | mgeary | later folks |
| 00:22.55 | fungus | depending on how often you play, and if you have a good group of friends to help. |
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| 00:25.10 | thebigdog | it depends on the player |
| 00:25.18 | thebigdog | it could take days, weeks, or months |
| 00:25.33 | thebigdog | i have seen people knock it out in a matter of 6 days or so |
| 00:25.41 | thebigdog | but those are long days |
| 00:25.48 | thebigdog | 16-18 hours of play |
| 00:25.52 | mindjuju | on that last vid you sent over, something about a warlock in a city, all i'm seeing is people incant |
| 00:25.56 | thebigdog | and they know exactly how to do it |
| 00:25.57 | mindjuju | not seeing much action? |
| 00:26.17 | thebigdog | yeah they just got into the city is all |
| 00:30.30 | PoeticIntensity | and oldie, but definitely a goodie... |
| 00:30.34 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3334&user=1 |
| 00:32.03 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 00:32.08 | thebigdog | that is a classic |
| 00:32.19 | PoeticIntensity | not only classic, but *SO* *TRUE* |
| 00:32.37 | PoeticIntensity | at least with many of the businesses with which I've worked. |
| 00:36.16 | bradym | ugh... the mysql migration toolkit is sooo slow.... |
| 00:37.12 | bradym | i'm just copying like 5 tables, but scans the indexes of all 1900 tables in the scema anyways.. |
| 00:39.18 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 00:39.27 | thebigdog | why not just use the mysqldump |
| 00:40.10 | bradym | oracle to mysql |
| 00:40.35 | bradym | using the migration toolkit means i don't have to translate the sql |
| 00:47.32 | thebigdog | oh |
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| 02:20.02 | mindjuju | ~APB macnewbold |
| 02:20.03 | jbot | ACTION summons Tim to stake out macnewbold |
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| 02:25.47 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 02:25.54 | beandog | heya mindjuju |
| 02:25.58 | beandog | just ripping my Christmas DVDs |
| 02:25.59 | beandog | :D |
| 02:26.15 | mindjuju | that cool! |
| 02:26.15 | beandog | watchoo diong |
| 02:26.17 | beandog | doing |
| 02:26.26 | mindjuju | honestly? |
| 02:26.32 | mindjuju | just waiting for a backup to finish |
| 02:26.35 | beandog | no, lie to me |
| 02:26.36 | beandog | :) |
| 02:26.44 | mindjuju | and playing flash element TD |
| 02:26.54 | mindjuju | it's got like 15 more minutes then i can go back to coding again |
| 02:26.56 | beandog | flash element td? |
| 02:27.01 | mindjuju | so, got loud music and playing game |
| 02:27.02 | beandog | whats that |
| 02:27.04 | mindjuju | yeah, hang on quick sec |
| 02:27.15 | mindjuju | v addictive flash game - http://www.novelconcepts.co.uk/FlashElementTD/play.asp |
| 02:27.23 | mindjuju | let me know when you have link loaded up |
| 02:27.58 | mindjuju | i usually play when i have a pocket of like 20 min downtime |
| 02:27.59 | beandog | lets see if firefox feels like working today |
| 02:28.00 | mindjuju | and nothing to do |
| 02:28.37 | beandog | wtc is this |
| 02:28.47 | mindjuju | k, you start with a certain amount of money |
| 02:29.07 | mindjuju | with that money you can buy either a tower that shoots arrows, a cannon or a tower that shoots arrows in the sky |
| 02:29.27 | mindjuju | to start, you only need cannon and red tower to shoot towards ground |
| 02:29.38 | beandog | hmm |
| 02:29.43 | beandog | this would be a great cell phone game |
| 02:29.43 | mindjuju | so, you click on cannon and place somwhere on the map that you think will be good |
| 02:30.04 | mindjuju | then when you've placed your tower, look towards the bottom and you see the button that says next level or start level |
| 02:30.20 | mindjuju | click on that, and bad dudes walk through the map and in the way of your cannon which fires on them |
| 02:30.30 | mindjuju | you don't want bad dudes to make it all the way through the map |
| 02:30.44 | mindjuju | so the trick is to make it all the way without running out of money or lives |
| 02:30.57 | mindjuju | you loose both money and lives for a bad guy making it through the map |
| 02:31.21 | mindjuju | one last thing, if you click on the cannon or tower you placed, it will let you upgrade or sell |
| 02:31.31 | beandog | nice |
| 02:31.32 | beandog | :D |
| 02:31.34 | beandog | Im rawking here. |
| 02:31.38 | mindjuju | :) |
| 02:31.39 | beandog | Okay I gotta go to the airport, laters. |
| 02:31.43 | mindjuju | laterz |
| 02:31.50 | beandog | thanks mindjuju |
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| 15:39.10 | mindjuju | morning gents |
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| 15:39.31 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Geek Lunch Today @ Shanghai Cafe @ 12:30p - see website for details | Utah PHP Users | uphpu.org |
| 15:40.27 | herlo | mindjuju: jerk! |
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| 15:42.52 | mindjuju | jerk? moi? |
| 15:48.37 | herlo | mindjuju: just for reminding me :) |
| 15:48.54 | mindjuju | i'll save you some tofu |
| 15:49.04 | herlo | ew! |
| 15:49.37 | mindjuju | yeah, that's a good way to have it, but there are others |
| 15:51.41 | herlo | not many |
| 15:52.37 | mindjuju | where you at right now |
| 15:53.05 | herlo | NYC |
| 15:53.09 | herlo | be home tonight even |
| 15:53.16 | herlo | and the entirety of next week |
| 15:53.21 | mindjuju | oh, you got good food on tap there |
| 15:53.23 | herlo | but hey, I'm only one guy... |
| 15:53.51 | herlo | right, but its not always about the food, the company is important |
| 15:54.02 | mindjuju | that is true |
| 15:55.34 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 15:55.53 | mindjuju | maybe we should throw a quick lunch next week and see who can go |
| 15:58.39 | herlo | ah, its okay. I can just invite you and a couple other friends to lunch next week, in fact, maybe I will do that... |
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| 15:59.04 | herlo | mindjuju: what days could you do a long lunch next week? |
| 16:02.46 | mindjuju | any day but tuesday |
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| 16:06.05 | mindjuju | didn't we have a talk about FF2 passing acid2 and benig w3c compliant? |
| 16:07.44 | herlo | mindjuju: k, tx |
| 16:07.48 | mindjuju | i ask because here they imply that none of the browsers are compliant - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071213-opera-tries-to-force-ie-into-w3c-compliance-with-eu-complaint-firefoxs-success-may-work-against-it.html |
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| 16:13.57 | herlo | mindjuju: its true, all browsers are not completely compliant |
| 16:14.09 | herlo | mindjuju: I believe ff and opera are the *most* compliant |
| 16:14.26 | herlo | and IIRC ff and opera also have very little that is non-compliant, if any |
| 16:15.15 | mgeary | herlo: not so |
| 16:15.33 | mgeary | Safari is *most* compliant: it's the only acid-compliant browser out there, to the best of my knowledge |
| 16:16.06 | mgeary | or am i joining a conversation mid-stream without knowing what's going on? :) |
| 16:17.25 | mindjuju | mgeary, here is what i said to start conversation - (9:04:03 AM) mindjuju: didn't we have a talk about FF2 passing acid2 and benig w3c compliant? |
| 16:17.32 | mindjuju | (9:05:46 AM) mindjuju: i ask because here they imply that none of the browsers are compliant - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071213-opera-tries-to-force-ie-into-w3c-compliance-with-eu-complaint-firefoxs-success-may-work-against-it.html |
| 16:18.28 | mindjuju | cats are deadly! - http://sawse.com/2007/11/28/20-photographs-taken-at-the-exact-right-angle/ |
| 16:18.29 | brasto | I keep forgetting what that stands for... |
| 16:18.31 | brasto | ~iirc |
| 16:18.54 | jbot | iirc is, like, "if I recall correctly" |
| 16:20.11 | herlo | mgeary: safari is based upon khtml which is absolutely not standards compliant |
| 16:20.57 | mgeary | so how does "standards compliant" reconcile with "acid compliant" ? |
| 16:21.26 | herlo | mgeary: unknown, I'm referring to w3c html v4 compliance |
| 16:22.04 | mindjuju | acid2 test is suppose to be a visual example of w3c compliance AFAIK |
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| 16:22.27 | brasto | herlo I wouldn't aim to be html v4 compliant, that's an ancient, archaic standard. I'd aim to be xhtml compliant - for 1.x and 2.x |
| 16:22.30 | herlo | mindjuju: nice to know, I don't have any knowledge of acid2 complience... |
| 16:22.38 | herlo | brasto: okay, sure |
| 16:22.50 | herlo | xhtml is a nice standard, that is true |
| 16:22.59 | herlo | brasto: what about html v5? |
| 16:23.09 | brasto | there's an html 5? |
| 16:23.10 | herlo | or is it xhtml v5? |
| 16:23.20 | mindjuju | no, i think its HTML 5 |
| 16:23.25 | brasto | xhtml took over for html 5, I thought |
| 16:23.29 | herlo | brasto: its all the rage right now, the w3c ist trying to approve it now |
| 16:23.30 | brasto | iirc |
| 16:23.49 | herlo | brasto: and apple and a couple other groups are trying to stick proprietary codecs in as part of the standard |
| 16:23.52 | brasto | ~wiki html 5 |
| 16:23.56 | herlo | mp3/aac vs ogg |
| 16:23.59 | mindjuju | yeah, Nokia is trying to knock Ogg (sound codec) out of the wtandard |
| 16:24.17 | brasto | ~kick mp3 |
| 16:24.17 | jbot | ACTION kicks mp3 |
| 16:24.22 | herlo | mindjuju: I guess we were both right about html/xhtml 5 |
| 16:24.26 | brasto | jbot, wake up |
| 16:24.26 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 16:24.42 | mindjuju | wait wait - nothing wrong with mp3, per se -- just that ogg is open |
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| 16:24.52 | herlo | mindjuju: right, they can still use mp3 |
| 16:25.07 | herlo | mindjuju: but it won't be defined as *built-in* as a standard anymore.. |
| 16:25.20 | herlo | instead that'll be ogg's role |
| 16:25.32 | orsonj | they can also use sccwbos too if they want. |
| 16:25.53 | orsonj | (Super Cool Codec We Build OurSelves) |
| 16:26.16 | orsonj | but a free common default is a good thing. |
| 16:27.05 | mindjuju | orsonj - concur |
| 16:27.35 | mindjuju | like HTML -- however, i wouldn't imagine widespread adoption anytime soon |
| 16:27.51 | mindjuju | CSS has been around a LONG time, but only recently sexy |
| 16:28.11 | mindjuju | err, i said that wrong, but ya'll know what i mean |
| 16:28.40 | brasto | the guys that started the mp3 standard started charging software vendors who make mp3 files with their software after their standard became so popular, because it was originally free |
| 16:28.51 | brasto | thus, I no longer encode anything mp3 |
| 16:29.20 | brasto | thus, linux no longer installs mp3 by default, you have to download it separate after a fresh install of any distro I've tested |
| 16:29.31 | brasto | ~lart the mp3 dudes |
| 16:29.31 | jbot | crushes the mp3 dudes with a full height scsi disk |
| 16:29.34 | brasto | ~chuckfact |
| 16:29.35 | jbot | There is no chin under Chuck Norris Beard. There is only another fist |
| 16:30.42 | mindjuju | brasto, that's not quite that simple. there were a lot of guys who pitched in to mp3, not all the companies involved are suing |
| 16:31.25 | mindjuju | and lawsuits against patent violators were won, but are now being overturned |
| 16:31.58 | mindjuju | specifically people using the Fraunhofer codec "were in violation" |
| 16:36.08 | brasto | ok, maybe it's this simple then: |
| 16:36.14 | brasto | ~lart sue happy people |
| 16:36.14 | jbot | takes out sue happy people with the trash |
| 16:36.29 | mindjuju | concur, or sue patent trolls |
| 16:36.55 | brasto | I've had a couple times in my life when I might have been able to sue someone. I chose to not worry about it in the interest of peace. |
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| 16:37.31 | mindjuju | yeah, but in this case, i think a strong argument can be made that patent trolls are detrimental to the advancement of technology |
| 16:37.40 | brasto | agreed |
| 16:37.52 | brasto | ~agree with mindjuju |
| 16:37.53 | jbot | ACTION forces with mindjuju to agree with brasto. "Its no matter, brasto is always right with mindjuju" |
| 16:38.00 | brasto | lol |
| 16:38.19 | mindjuju | on the other hand, some suggested that AAC and other formats came about when mp3 patent suits came out |
| 16:38.52 | mindjuju | still, makes me mad to hear some of the patents issued 20 years ago come out and hit big companies |
| 16:38.52 | brasto | that's true. ogg may have come out before all of that, I'm not sure, but even if it did, it got much bigger afterward |
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| 16:42.21 | brasto | wps - have you done much work with html 5? |
| 16:42.36 | mindjuju | standard not out yet |
| 16:42.46 | brasto | is it as content-separate-from-layout-driven as xhtml? |
| 16:42.53 | wps | it's still an idea |
| 16:42.59 | mindjuju | not sure any browsers that implement |
| 16:43.15 | mindjuju | course that said, isn't CSS3 approved, but not implemented either? |
| 16:43.22 | wps | none of the browsers support it much (Safari's nightly build does the most) and it's still not completely agreed upon |
| 16:43.28 | wps | yup |
| 16:44.00 | mindjuju | yeah, but sure sounds hawt. didn't it have dynamic flow in columns? |
| 16:44.17 | wps | yes |
| 16:44.23 | mindjuju | too savory |
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| 16:45.15 | brasto | another wps question: css files don't have a dtd, so how can the browser know what css standard you are using? |
| 16:45.20 | wps | just that would be such an improvement |
| 16:45.28 | wps | they don't |
| 16:45.35 | wps | and they don't care |
| 16:45.52 | wps | it's just if the browser supports what you're trying to do or not |
| 16:46.11 | brasto | yes, I'd love to see the column method in general, too. |
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| 17:21.45 | herlo | I'd like to be able to think a thought and it automagically be formatted how I thought it and show up on the web already published by me :) |
| 17:21.48 | orsonj | yes, columns are so ubiquitous that there needs to be an easy to handle them. |
| 17:42.26 | orsonj | It also would be nice to be able to do the equivalent of <table> <tc><td>1</td><td>3</td></tc> <tc><td>2</td><td>4</td></tc> </table> |
| 17:42.31 | orsonj | where tc is table column |
| 17:43.02 | fungus | ick. that isn't a table then. |
| 17:43.09 | fungus | Not very semantic |
| 17:43.17 | orsonj | yes it is, it is just defined in columns instead of rows |
| 17:43.48 | fungus | but that isn't a table. |
| 17:44.01 | fungus | tables are rows with fields |
| 17:44.16 | orsonj | yes it is, it is just displayed vertically instead of horizontally |
| 17:44.28 | herlo | tables have four legs and you can put stuff on them... |
| 17:44.36 | fungus | so you want a table rotated 90degrees |
| 17:44.42 | fungus | :) |
| 17:44.44 | orsonj | yep |
| 17:44.58 | fungus | I disagree that we need new syntax for that. |
| 17:45.12 | fungus | but real columns as in newspaper like columns makes sense. |
| 17:45.12 | orsonj | that's why I used the word equivalent |
| 17:45.26 | orsonj | I just made up new syntax to explain it. |
| 17:46.00 | fungus | <column style="width: 150px">blah blah blah</column> |
| 17:47.03 | fungus | HTML 5 has some very interesting and compelling new syntax, but is quite a divergence from XHTML |
| 17:51.38 | orsonj | Building this page caused me to decide that a sideways defined table would be more semantic in some cases. http://www.bookstore.usu.edu/outerweb/computer/ipod.asp |
| 17:52.33 | mindjuju | almost time for geek lunch! |
| 17:55.25 | PoeticIntensity | and mindjuju ... I took a look at that game you were talking with beandog about... |
| 17:55.36 | PoeticIntensity | Flash Element TD... |
| 17:55.44 | PoeticIntensity | have you ever played Desktop Tower Defense? |
| 17:58.28 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: I know your pain |
| 17:59.59 | PoeticIntensity | herlo, ...... *sigh* |
| 18:01.42 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: uh-huh! |
| 18:02.30 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity - i haven't |
| 18:02.30 | mindjuju | is it similar? |
| 18:02.30 | PoeticIntensity | got a few minutes? |
| 18:02.50 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/game.asp |
| 18:03.24 | PoeticIntensity | It has everything TD has, but it takes away the static route the enemy travels. |
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| 18:03.32 | PoeticIntensity | mornin', dataw0lf. |
| 18:03.47 | dataw0lf | Morning, sir. |
| 18:04.10 | PoeticIntensity | and makes the towers you place into the path the "creeps" (as they call them) travel. |
| 18:04.16 | dataw0lf | http://stderr.ws/media/img/aldus.jpg |
| 18:04.32 | PoeticIntensity | aww... cute ferret. |
| 18:04.49 | PoeticIntensity | is it biting her fingers? |
| 18:05.47 | dataw0lf | Nah |
| 18:05.49 | dataw0lf | he doesn't bite. |
| 18:05.54 | dataw0lf | not even playfully |
| 18:05.56 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 18:05.59 | dataw0lf | although Guido, the smaller one, does |
| 18:07.22 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, .... we've even got a UPHPU group started on the Desktop Tower Defense webpage. |
| 18:07.27 | PoeticIntensity | (scoreboard) |
| 18:07.33 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/GroupScoreboard.asp |
| 18:07.42 | PoeticIntensity | (and type "uphpu" into the search field) |
| 18:07.48 | mindjuju | hey cool! |
| 18:07.53 | PoeticIntensity | heh.. yeah. |
| 18:08.18 | mindjuju | we should get some killer high scores then go into #utah and taunt everybody |
| 18:08.24 | PoeticIntensity | no doubt. |
| 18:09.02 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: you need to get an Xbox 360 so I can pwn you in Call of Duty 4 |
| 18:09.37 | mindjuju | haven't played that yet, but i'm confident i could whoop ya with 2 broken fingers and a hand tied around my back |
| 18:09.57 | mindjuju | oh, and a patch on my eye |
| 18:10.34 | dataw0lf | I dunno, I'm pretty good.... |
| 18:10.45 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:11.01 | dataw0lf | K:D ratio of 1.54 now. Extremely high for CoD 4 |
| 18:11.16 | PoeticIntensity | dataw0lf, you into computer games, or only console? |
| 18:11.32 | dataw0lf | I'd pull out my gold desert eagle and pistol whip ya with it. Do yooou have a golden desert eagle?? |
| 18:11.51 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: I pretty much retired from computer based games with the advent of CounterStrike 1.6 and Steam. |
| 18:11.56 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 18:12.11 | PoeticIntensity | Enemy Territory : Quake Wars is brilliant. |
| 18:12.14 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, i don't have said pistol, but i don't need one cause my whole body is a lethal weapon |
| 18:12.39 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: *chuckles* maybe if you tripped from two stories and fell on my neck |
| 18:12.52 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: yea, I played ET for a while |
| 18:13.00 | PoeticIntensity | the new one? |
| 18:13.06 | dataw0lf | Nah, the old one. |
| 18:13.19 | PoeticIntensity | I played the old one for years.... |
| 18:13.21 | PoeticIntensity | loved it. |
| 18:13.29 | dataw0lf | but it's nice to be able to separate my two hobbies so distinctly. Computer is for hackery, Xbox 360 / Wii / PS3 for games. |
| 18:13.37 | PoeticIntensity | the new one is fun in all the old ways, and SO much better. |
| 18:13.43 | dataw0lf | that's what I hear |
| 18:13.50 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 18:13.50 | dataw0lf | you should check out CoD 4: MW |
| 18:13.54 | dataw0lf | You'd probably love it |
| 18:14.03 | PoeticIntensity | I'm throwin' a LAN party down tonight playing the new ET. |
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| 18:14.10 | thebigdog | some peeps have too much free time |
| 18:14.11 | dataw0lf | (it's available for computers too) |
| 18:14.17 | PoeticIntensity | ah. |
| 18:14.30 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: CoD 4 has a lot of RPG elements, sort of like ET |
| 18:14.43 | dataw0lf | you gain levels and unlock new weapons, weapon skins, perks |
| 18:14.44 | PoeticIntensity | I love FPS strategy.... |
| 18:14.48 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 18:14.50 | dataw0lf | yea, you'd love CoD 4 too |
| 18:15.01 | dataw0lf | you have three "Perk" slots, and can create your own customizable classes |
| 18:15.05 | PoeticIntensity | shoot-em-ups are fun, but.... not for long. |
| 18:15.11 | PoeticIntensity | strategy keeps it fresh. |
| 18:15.28 | dataw0lf | M16A4 + red dot sight + +3 frag grenades + stopping power + deep impact ftw! |
| 18:15.37 | dataw0lf | I consistently get accused of cheating now. |
| 18:15.39 | dataw0lf | on the xbox 360 |
| 18:16.07 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.... |
| 18:16.10 | PoeticIntensity | gotta love that. |
| 18:16.19 | dataw0lf | yea, it boosts the ego ;-) |
| 18:17.11 | dataw0lf | or ak74 + red dot sight + +3 frag grenades + juggernaut + steady aim (my new class I've been owning with, called "Slasher") |
| 18:17.36 | dataw0lf | but yea, I like tactical / action hybrids |
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| 18:17.47 | dataw0lf | not as fast paced as Halo or Unreal Tournament |
| 18:17.52 | dataw0lf | but not as tactical as Ghost Recon |
| 18:17.56 | PoeticIntensity | I see.... |
| 18:18.18 | PoeticIntensity | played Ghost Recon (Rainbox Six) for quite awhile... |
| 18:18.19 | PoeticIntensity | a bit too slow. |
| 18:18.25 | PoeticIntensity | UT2004 has been a fav for years. |
| 18:18.25 | dataw0lf | I like Halo and UT too. But my heart lies in CS-like games like CoD 4 |
| 18:18.52 | dataw0lf | I like games that help facilitate good clan tactics / warfare |
| 18:18.59 | PoeticIntensity | yup |
| 18:19.18 | dataw0lf | there are perks in CoD 4 that wouldn't help at all in a non clan / team based game. |
| 18:19.47 | dataw0lf | Like Eavesdrop, where can listen into the enemies chatter. It wouldn't be really useful in pickup games because nobody wants to give up kills to help out their stranger teammates |
| 18:19.54 | dataw0lf | but in actual teams it's gold |
| 18:20.07 | timinator | afternoon guys |
| 18:20.16 | PoeticIntensity | I'd probably love it. |
| 18:20.22 | dataw0lf | yea, check it out. |
| 18:20.29 | dataw0lf | definitely the most photorealistic game around. |
| 18:20.32 | dataw0lf | too* |
| 18:22.07 | dataw0lf | it's awesome when people get flashbanged because their characters will throw their hands up to their eyes and look dazed. Like, you can actually see the dazedness in their body movement. It's ridiculous. |
| 18:26.32 | PoeticIntensity | amazing.... |
| 18:33.34 | dataw0lf | yea, single player + HD tv == breathtaking, every step of the way. |
| 18:38.53 | PoeticIntensity | I gotta ask, though.... |
| 18:38.57 | PoeticIntensity | Don't you miss the keyboard / mouse combo? |
| 18:39.11 | PoeticIntensity | Everytime I get a gamepad in my hands, I...... just am ineffective. |
| 18:39.20 | PoeticIntensity | turning around is horrendous. |
| 18:39.25 | PoeticIntensity | ....ly slow. |
| 18:41.30 | dataw0lf | y'know, I did miss the keyboard / mouse combo. |
| 18:41.44 | dataw0lf | But once you get the feel of the controller, it's not too bad at all |
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| 18:58.43 | thebigdog | gaming + hd = amazing |
| 18:59.53 | dataw0lf | yup |
| 19:00.13 | dataw0lf | I get people whining "How the heck did you see my elbow sticking out from over 400 yards away?!?! Cheater!!!" |
| 19:00.21 | dataw0lf | naah, just a huge HD tv, bub |
| 19:06.05 | thebigdog | i have a buddy that plays counter strike like that and he always gets people complaining like that |
| 19:06.18 | thebigdog | not too mention 7yrs of play makes you awesome |
| 19:09.29 | mindjuju | fungus, you still around? |
| 19:13.41 | timinator | I've got a buddy w/ an HD projection TV |
| 19:14.20 | timinator | it's huge |
| 19:14.32 | timinator | (the screen, not the projector) |
| 19:14.38 | herlo | what about your buddy? |
| 19:15.07 | timinator | he's got an HD Projector that he hooks up to his Xbox |
| 19:15.21 | herlo | timinator: no, is your buddy huge too? |
| 19:15.27 | timinator | no |
| 19:15.28 | herlo | tehe |
| 19:15.36 | timinator | he's a normal size |
| 19:15.38 | timinator | :) |
| 19:15.43 | herlo | I'm huge |
| 19:15.48 | herlo | huge like a fox |
| 19:15.55 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 19:16.01 | herlo | not that that makes any sense to anyone but me |
| 19:17.05 | herlo | yeah, don't hurt your brain |
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| 19:20.24 | thebigdog | anyone ever done anything with google gears? |
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| 19:22.22 | macnewbold | w00t! lunch! |
| 19:23.12 | herlo | damn! |
| 19:23.28 | PoeticIntensity | same sentiments, herlo |
| 19:23.42 | PoeticIntensity | can anyone here effectively stop time? |
| 19:23.44 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: whatcha doing next Thursday? say around noon? |
| 19:23.50 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: only Hiro! |
| 19:23.57 | PoeticIntensity | sitting in my office.... |
| 19:24.01 | PoeticIntensity | not wanting to work... :) |
| 19:24.03 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: lunch? |
| 19:24.06 | PoeticIntensity | totally. |
| 19:24.07 | PoeticIntensity | where? |
| 19:24.23 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: dunno yet, have a few people lined up already, including mindjuju |
| 19:24.35 | PoeticIntensity | the farther south, the more likely I'll attend. |
| 19:24.40 | PoeticIntensity | like... Draper. |
| 19:24.41 | herlo | probably somewhere in SL County |
| 19:24.47 | PoeticIntensity | yeah |
| 19:24.49 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: where do you work? |
| 19:25.21 | PoeticIntensity | Springville. |
| 19:25.35 | herlo | oh, I used to live there. Nice place. Did we have this conversation before? |
| 19:25.39 | PoeticIntensity | yes |
| 19:25.44 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 19:25.45 | herlo | and I used to work there too |
| 19:25.49 | PoeticIntensity | yup... |
| 19:25.51 | PoeticIntensity | knew that too.. ;-) |
| 19:25.53 | herlo | which company, nature's way? |
| 19:25.57 | PoeticIntensity | bingo |
| 19:26.02 | herlo | ah, I remember things now |
| 19:26.13 | herlo | Draper's a stretch I see |
| 19:26.29 | PoeticIntensity | nah... I do Draper all the time. |
| 19:26.34 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: /win 3 |
| 19:26.40 | dataw0lf | wth |
| 19:26.43 | PoeticIntensity | much further north and I'll be stretching. |
| 19:26.55 | herlo | mainly because I'll be coming from Bountiful, Will - SLC, Heartsbane too, and of course mindjuju is in Draper... |
| 19:27.42 | herlo | so Draper seems reasonable, I'll have to check with those other guys and see if we can't carpool or something :) |
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| 19:41.07 | beandog | sheesh |
| 19:41.13 | beandog | the lunch is literally 2 blocks from my house. |
| 19:41.23 | beandog | ah well |
| 19:41.24 | PoeticIntensity | and..... the question of the hour is......?!?! |
| 19:41.27 | beandog | thats what I get for waking up at 12:30 |
| 19:41.38 | PoeticIntensity | what's what you get? |
| 19:41.44 | PoeticIntensity | to go to lunch? |
| 19:41.45 | beandog | whot? |
| 19:41.58 | beandog | you going? |
| 19:42.17 | PoeticIntensity | nope. :-\ |
| 19:42.18 | PoeticIntensity | too far. |
| 19:42.20 | beandog | slacker |
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| 19:57.07 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, you going? |
| 19:57.18 | beandog | nah |
| 19:57.45 | beandog | doesnt sound like my kinda food |
| 19:58.00 | herlo | slacker |
| 20:00.17 | beandog | :) |
| 20:00.20 | beandog | herlo's not there either |
| 20:00.29 | beandog | so now I know theres no point. |
| 20:00.39 | herlo | beandog: because I'm in NYC |
| 20:00.48 | beandog | oh. |
| 20:01.27 | beandog | well, whose fault is that? |
| 20:04.39 | herlo | beandog: its my job, so I guess mine |
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| 20:21.01 | beandog | what do you call those little mouse buttons on laptops |
| 20:21.07 | beandog | the one in the middle of the keyboard |
| 20:21.13 | beandog | I need to disable mine somehow |
| 20:21.28 | mgeary | a nipple |
| 20:27.57 | beandog | what? really? |
| 20:30.31 | mgeary | sure. just call IBM tech support and tell them you want to disable it. i'm sure they won't laugh |
| 20:32.32 | dataw0lf | http://xkcd.com/243/ |
| 20:35.26 | brasto | beandog: you can sometimes disable the touchpad in bios, and sometimes with fn +t |
| 20:35.46 | brasto | I'm not sure if that effects the buttons next to the touchpad |
| 20:40.39 | brasto | lol: |
| 20:40.42 | brasto | ~vista |
| 20:40.43 | jbot | You're not serious, are you? |
| 20:41.55 | beandog | mgeary: mines a Dell |
| 20:41.56 | beandog | :T |
| 20:42.14 | beandog | They register as mouse0 and mouse1, but of course good ol udev assigns them randomly. |
| 20:42.31 | beandog | not to mention sometimes the touchpad switches between two device names |
| 20:57.07 | timinator | what's the best way to send an anonymous text message to someone? |
| 20:57.37 | timinator | (to someone's cell? |
| 20:57.40 | timinator | ) |
| 20:57.48 | synic | echo 'yousux' | mail -s 'srs, you sucks' 8012342334@teleflip.com |
| 20:57.56 | synic | from your friends webserver. |
| 20:58.38 | brasto | timinator: use a different nick and send via irc, or use telnet or sendmail to send an email and spoof another email address. |
| 20:59.03 | brasto | oh... to a cell... nevermind timinator |
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| 21:05.28 | timinator | I like my friends too much :) |
| 21:05.37 | timinator | synic, can I borrow yours? |
| 21:05.39 | timinator | :P |
| 21:06.07 | synic | would you like me to send a text? |
| 21:06.16 | timinator | no... LOL |
| 21:06.20 | timinator | nm |
| 21:06.25 | synic | it'll be all anonymous and etc. |
| 21:06.31 | synic | I totally won't read what I'm typing in |
| 21:24.59 | brasto | lol |
| 21:33.29 | dataw0lf | don't believe him! he told me that once, and suddenly everyone knew about my.... "problem" |
| 21:33.37 | timinator | LOL |
| 21:33.55 | dataw0lf | ;D |
| 21:58.46 | brasto | that's annoying... I upgraded pidgin, and went to help, about. it gives a whole bunch of info about developers, retired developers, crazy developers, and languages, but nothing about the version of pidgin - the one thing most people expect in help, about - for any program. |
| 22:00.06 | brasto | brb |
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| 22:02.44 | PoeticIntensity | anyone know off the top of their head what the "lsof" command switches are to see what is hogging my sound card? |
| 22:03.10 | fungus | lsof | grep /dev/dsp ?? |
| 22:03.17 | PoeticIntensity | erg.. .tried that. |
| 22:03.52 | brasto | ok, having restarted pidgin, it looks like there's a version number in help, about - glad that's something they decided to fix that... |
| 22:04.17 | brasto | ~erg |
| 22:04.18 | jbot | erg is, like, a dyne-centimeter |
| 22:04.37 | brasto | ah... so PoeticIntensity tried a dyne-centimeter... |
| 22:04.42 | brasto | :) |
| 22:05.53 | PoeticIntensity | hrmph..... |
| 22:06.36 | PoeticIntensity | brb |
| 22:08.42 | orsonj | ~hrmph |
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| 22:28.43 | PoeticIntensity | yo, mindjuju, if (when) you play Desktop Tower Defense, be sure to put your score into the uphpu group. (not sure if I told ya that or not) |
| 22:29.22 | PoeticIntensity | it'll ask your name, and then the group's name. |
| 22:30.00 | thebigdog | what is the url for that game? |
| 22:30.10 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/game.asp |
| 22:30.14 | PoeticIntensity | careful, it's addictive. |
| 22:30.33 | PoeticIntensity | if ya play in the easy mode, you can't submit your score no matter how good you are. |
| 22:30.45 | PoeticIntensity | medium / hard - yes. |
| 22:30.56 | PoeticIntensity | man... I better go have lunch... :) |
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| 22:40.34 | wps | mindjuju: here is what the site look like before: http://anavidesign.com/temp/home_cur.png |
| 22:40.56 | wps | and this is the new: http://anavidesign.com/temp/omniture_home.png |
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| 22:57.26 | PoeticIntensity | wow, wps, that went from great to fantastic! |
| 22:57.40 | PoeticIntensity | I really like the new one. |
| 22:57.45 | wps | thanks |
| 22:57.53 | PoeticIntensity | is that your work? |
| 22:57.57 | PoeticIntensity | like... 100% of it? |
| 22:58.04 | wps | yes, 100% |
| 22:58.10 | PoeticIntensity | I dig. |
| 22:58.12 | wps | design, code, implement |
| 22:58.14 | PoeticIntensity | do you do contract work? |
| 22:58.17 | wps | yes |
| 22:58.19 | wps | anavidesign.com |
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| 22:59.13 | PoeticIntensity | wps, you give me hope in subtle gradients. :) |
| 22:59.18 | davidgarcia | I need a programmer |
| 22:59.27 | PoeticIntensity | for what? |
| 22:59.34 | davidgarcia | website |
| 22:59.39 | PoeticIntensity | any more details? |
| 23:00.03 | wps | have you tried here? http://uphpu.org/employment/ |
| 23:00.34 | davidgarcia | it is subscription base coupon website |
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| 23:07.15 | bradym | davidgarcia: you'll definitely get a better response if you post a job description at the site wps mentioned |
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| 23:27.41 | davidgarcia | :) |
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| 23:42.51 | timinator | I'm out ladies... have a great weekend..... I'll be out of town Mon-Wed, see ya'll Thursday |
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