IRC log for #uphpu on 20071207

00:01.19Jacob_KerrHAHA I DID IT! Finaly after all this time I can connect to the SQLite db. :)
00:02.18Jacob_Kerrjust had to upgrade my server to PHP 5 and install the PDO_SQLITE drivers after spending a ton of time finding out that's what needs to be done.
00:13.13thebigdoganyone using yui?
00:28.12timinatoras in Yahoo UI?
00:28.24timinatorI get their podcast
00:29.33timinatorI'm out.... later guys
00:44.35Jacob_Kerrwhat's the best way to grab everything in a string that is between 2 sets of strings. For example I have a string that has "|n||n|" in front on the string I want to cut out and put in an array and a ";n" at the end but I have like 10 substrings like that I want to pull out.
00:46.24Jacob_Kerrman I am going to have to save a ton of positions for the start into an array and the end in an array and run a loop on them together to pull all the substrings eh..
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01:06.05SunSparcNight all!
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15:37.37timinatorat ease  :)
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16:17.55mgearyhi folks
16:22.57thebigdogmorning
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16:43.46PoeticIntensitymornin'.
16:43.55Utah_Davemorning!
16:47.10SunSparcGuten mogen alles!
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17:00.20Jacob_KerrHey what's the best way to grab everything in a string that's between "|n|n|" and ";n" :)
17:01.48thebigdogwhat
17:02.06jsmith$count = preg_match('/|n|n|(.*?);n/msi',$subject,$matches);
17:02.11jsmithThen look in $matches[1];
17:02.20Jacob_Kerrnice.
17:02.32Jacob_Kerrthanx man
17:03.43Jacob_KerrLOL I had a while loop that used strpos to grab all pos of first and last and place them both in an array then I was going to loop the arrays and use substr
17:04.41jsmithIt
17:04.50jsmithIt's what regular expressions were invented for, man
17:04.51thebigdogJacob_Kerr, what os you on?
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17:04.56jsmithDon't fight them -- learn to use them!
17:05.10Jacob_KerrCrappy windows vista..
17:05.34thebigdogcheck out kodos for help with regex
17:05.44thebigdogas you start using it
17:05.49thebigdogthat will help you tons
17:05.58thebigdogit is python based app..but you should be good
17:06.17Jacob_Kerryeah regex has always gave me a head ache and I have read about them a million times so I shoud prob. start using them more often..
17:06.18thebigdogyou have cygwin installed?
17:06.27Jacob_Kerrsweet..
17:06.29Jacob_Kerryeah
17:07.12thebigdogthat can help you too with doing regex
17:07.55thebigdogwhat do you write code in Jacob_Kerr?
17:08.05thebigdogide or something else?
17:08.21Jacob_Kerrmy PHP code?
17:08.26thebigdogy
17:08.32thebigdogor any code
17:08.53Jacob_KerrI have been using DW for ages.
17:08.58Jacob_KerrIm sure there's allot beter.
17:09.59Jacob_Kerrbut i can write my code in notepad I do not really care.
17:10.35thebigdogjust curious
17:11.24Jacob_KerrWhat's a good program for writing PHP?
17:11.50PoeticIntensityjedit.
17:11.51PoeticIntensity:)
17:12.08Jacob_KerrSweet I'm going to get it now. thanx.
17:12.10pelaofeliz<PROTECTED>
17:12.22dataw0lfvim
17:12.28SunSparcAnyone here using mIRC?
17:12.49dataw0lfmIRC?  This isn't the mid-nineties!
17:12.59SunSparc:)
17:13.03SunSparcAmen to that.
17:13.06Jacob_Kerrman kodos is cool I'm going to use this thing all the time.
17:13.41SunSparcSomeone I know is using it and cannot find a certain setting and I have not used it since the 90's.
17:13.42SunSparc:)
17:17.07Jacob_Kerrdang /|n|n|(.*?);n/msi   is not working for getting everything between "|n|n|" and ";n" :(
17:17.56thebigdogJacob_Kerr, use kodos to test it out
17:18.08thebigdogthatwill help you become familiar with regex
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17:18.14Jacob_Kerrk.
17:18.17thebigdogi use eclipse for all my development
17:18.26Jacob_Kerrwill it gen a regex for u?
17:18.32thebigdogno
17:18.36thebigdogonly python
17:18.46thebigdogif you use python then yes
17:18.47thebigdogno for php
17:18.50Jacob_Kerrk.
17:18.56Jacob_Kerrthanx.
17:18.57thebigdogbut then again...python is better...hehe
17:23.09Jacob_Kerrso this should grab everything between "|n|n|" and ";n" right  /|n|n|(.*?);n/
17:24.41SunSparcI have a regex plugin for eclipse that is very handy.
17:27.05thebigdogit is really nice
17:32.17thebigdogPoeticIntensity, i'm surprised you use jedit and not eclipse
17:32.25PoeticIntensityyeah...
17:32.31PoeticIntensityI'm kinda weird in that arena...
17:32.43thebigdognot saying jedit is bad or anything...it is actually killer good at
17:32.50PoeticIntensitymost of my development is done on remote boxes.
17:33.14thebigdogjedit has probably the best plugin implementation i have ever seen
17:33.16PoeticIntensityI tried eclipse once and it couldn't do the remote development as well as eclipse.
17:33.26PoeticIntensityso... I did try eclipse...
17:33.39thebigdogyeah i usually dont do too much remote dev
17:33.42PoeticIntensityBut, I rarely develop on the local box.
17:33.56thebigdogbut eclipse does have some new plugins that should be rocking
17:34.01thebigdogwps might know more on it
17:34.08PoeticIntensitynone of the places I've worked have had a good implementation of svn, either.
17:34.19thebigdogreally
17:34.22PoeticIntensityyup.
17:34.27thebigdogare you working for macnewbol now?
17:34.35PoeticIntensityhopefully, in the near (or far) future, I'll be getting svn installed here.
17:34.37PoeticIntensitynope.
17:34.40PoeticIntensityI work for Nature's Way.
17:34.43thebigdogok
17:34.49thebigdogi get everyone confused
17:34.54PoeticIntensityit's all good.
17:34.58wpsI do 99% of my dev on remote boxes via SFTP
17:35.06PoeticIntensitywith Eclipse?
17:35.20PoeticIntensitybecause I do the same.
17:35.22wpsno, with Coda
17:35.25PoeticIntensityah.
17:35.31wpsI did use Zend for a few years though that is basically Eclipse
17:35.51thebigdogi just dont see remote dev working for me
17:36.12wpsme either
17:36.29PoeticIntensityI actually see me using Eclipse quite readily, as soon as I can checkout code and work on it locally.
17:36.53thebigdogwiht the new plugin it should be working now
17:36.57PoeticIntensityit's mostly just habit (because I could just download the codebase locally and work on it without svn)
17:37.16thebigdogsee i love eclipse for the history management
17:37.18PoeticIntensitythebigdog, when you say "new plugin" do you mean something having to do with remote dev?
17:37.25thebigdogyes
17:37.30thebigdogwps told me about it
17:37.30PoeticIntensitycould you elaborate?
17:37.35PoeticIntensityor someone?
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17:37.54thebigdogyeah let me grab link
17:38.16wpsabout what? my workflow?
17:38.27thebigdognope
17:38.42wpsoh, the new plug in?
17:38.52wpswe tried it here but it was buggy
17:39.13wpsand even if it worked, eclipse sucks so much that the guy trying just dumped the whole app
17:39.25wpssorry, thebigdog, but java apps just suck… too clunky
17:39.45thebigdogcuase you guys dont know how to use them in the problem imho
17:39.52Jacob_Kerrdang I have been looking at regular expression rules etc. and |n|n|(.*);n  seems like it should grab everything between "|n|n|" and ";n" but it's not working.
17:39.54wpscould be
17:39.57thebigdogmost of the guys doing eclipse development are on macs
17:40.06thebigdogi dont see how that would be the case
17:40.09wpsinteresting
17:41.02thebigdogthey are macs too right?
17:41.22PoeticIntensityWhen I tried Eclipse (for a day), the app certainly didn't seem clunky, at least to me.
17:41.33PoeticIntensitybut I didn't get too deep into it.
17:42.39thebigdogSunSparc, do you have issues?
17:42.54SunSparcYes, but they are rather personal
17:42.58SunSparc:)
17:43.13SunSparcjsmith: you beat me to it
17:43.42SunSparcthebigdog: well there are quirks and there is a bit of a learning curve, but once you know it it can be quite powerful
17:43.56SunSparcThe community is large and usually helpful also.
17:46.24thebigdogi have not had any issues
17:46.33thebigdogeclipse on linux rocks too
17:46.49thebigdogi know there are some widget issues w/ cocoa
17:47.00thebigdogbut those are only on the widgets and not performance
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17:58.58thebigdogjsmith, you around?
17:59.09jsmiththebigdog: Yup
17:59.39thebigdogsent pm
18:03.12SunSparcHmmm
18:04.37Jacob_Kerrhehe I just need to escape the |
18:07.08jsmithmgeary: What about my tip jar?  Do I get a dollar too?
18:07.22mgearyjsmith doesn't already have a mac?? for shame
18:07.33mgearyi figured you, certainly, would have one
18:07.40mgeary;)
18:07.59jsmithI have an old PowerBook, but it's running Linux
18:08.20jsmith(Of course, I can't guarantee a new MacBook Pro wouldn't be running Linux too)
18:08.36mgearywhat's a mere.... $62,700 among friends
18:12.49Jacob_Kerr$count = preg_match_all('/\|n\|\|n\|(.*?);n/msi',$options_from_db,$matches);    Grabs everything between "|n||n|" and ";n"  but it also grabs "|n||n|" and ";n" anyone know how I can get just what's between those two and not the markers also?
18:17.39timinatorget me an iPod Touch instead  :)
18:17.53jsmithJacob_Kerr: I told you to look at $matches[1], not $matches[0];
18:18.11Jacob_Kerrhmmm...
18:18.12jsmithJacob_Kerr: $matches[1] should only grab the stuff between the first set of parentheses
18:19.01Jacob_Kerroh I c. I did a print_r on that array and did not notice the 2 indexes :)
18:19.03Jacob_KerrThanx man..
18:19.27Jacob_KerrI did not know it was multidimensional.
18:19.54jsmithYup... $matches[0] contains the entire match, $matches[1] contains the first parameterized match, etc.
18:20.18timinatorjsmith: why would you buy a PB for Linux? why wouldn't you buy a cheap dell or something?
18:21.01jsmithtiminator: Because I prefer to dual-boot OS X than Windows ;-)
18:21.07jsmithtiminator: The hardware is sexier
18:21.16jsmithtiminator: People take you more seriously if you show up with Mac hardware
18:21.27timinatorya, fo sho
18:31.09mgearyi'm out early today. later folks
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18:40.28mindjujuugh, what a day
18:42.26jsmithmindjuju: Amen, brother... monday number five
18:45.03mindjujuexactly my sentiment
18:45.31mindjujucourse, i'm thinking of leaving here and getting some chinese food and sitting with a book and taking a time out
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18:57.34Jacob_Kerrhey I have a while loop on a database result while($result = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)) and for some reason the while loop is finishing with 5 - 6 rows. Has anyone had this problem in the past?
19:02.37pelaofelizyou may not want to assign $result to a call on $result...
19:02.41pelaofelizcould that be the problem?
19:10.01Jacob_Kerrthat was a typo
19:12.39bradympastebin your code?
19:27.25mindjujudon't knwo if anybody here does woot, but they're having a woot off
19:31.15jsmith-lunchw00t!
19:31.27jsmithmindjuju: did you see the results from their last photoshop contest?
19:31.34jsmithmindjuju: The baby blanket was spot-on
19:33.44mindjujujsmith - didn't, do you have a link?
19:34.02mindjujui just barely started wooting myself about 3 months ago
19:34.27mindjujupicked up an awesome $130 (ebay low price) mp3 player for $100
19:34.29mindjujuworks perfect
19:35.21jsmithI've bought a ton of stuff off of woot
19:35.35mindjujuwhat i really want to buy is a BOC
19:35.56mindjujuhave you ever bought one?
19:38.37jsmithIt's a Bag of Crap
19:38.54jsmithYou pay money, and they'll send you a bag of crap
19:38.57mindjujuyeah i know, but what does it have inside?
19:39.01jsmithWhat more is there to explain
19:39.10jsmithCould be anything... could be junk
19:39.18jsmithcould be the wrappers from their lunch
19:39.26jsmithCould be anything
19:39.32mindjujuyeah i know, but i want one
19:39.41jsmithSo buy one ;-)
19:39.48jsmithmindjuju: http://s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/wootcontestimages/151-2.jpg
19:40.57mindjujui like the EULA
19:42.38mindjujuthat tokyo h-frequency watch right now on woot is too funny
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21:07.12mindjujuthebigdog, isn't that song like 20 seconds long?
21:07.18mindjujuand mostly talking?
21:07.29thebigdoghehe no
21:07.32thebigdog2:08
21:07.36thebigdogbut talking yes
21:07.41thebigdoghence the voice
21:08.01mindjujuoh, i thought that was the one where she's like, "this is the voice of enigma.... yap yap yap yappity yap"
21:08.12thebigdogit is but it has music too
21:08.15mindjujucan't see much rocking to that
21:08.26thebigdogthat is about techno as i get
21:08.31thebigdogoh wait let me spin this one
21:08.36mindjujujust messin' with yah
21:08.49mindjujui'm tired, don't feel like coding much and have craploads to do
21:09.01mindjujunow there is a fine song
21:09.09thebigdoglets remix a movie
21:09.20thebigdogrelease me...release me
21:09.29thebigdoggotta love will smith
21:09.35mindjujuyeah
21:09.42thebigdoghis new remake movie looks good though
21:09.57mindjujuyeah, was just going to say that
21:10.16thebigdogthe new rambo looks stupid
21:10.33mindjujudid you hear that they caught sly stallone in australia with steroids?
21:10.43mindjujutwas a while ago
21:10.50thebigdogy
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21:13.32mindjujuman, i feel like going home and sleeping for several hours, then waking up and playing a console game, then more sleep
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21:22.39Utah_Dave~sleep mindjuju
21:22.40jbotACTION sends mindjuju to bed without supper
21:22.54mindjujuthx a heap
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21:34.08beandogmm
21:34.10beandogits a webmin day.
21:34.32SunSparcSometimes that is a good thing
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21:37.31timinatorwps: is it true that you partition your laptop HD?
21:39.19Utah_Davetiminator: I have 3 partitions on my laptop.  1 for Ubuntu, 1 for Windows, and 1 for all my data
21:39.32timinatorya?
21:39.33timinatorhuh
21:39.46Black_ChaosI have a / partition and a /home partition and a swap partition on mine :D
21:39.49timinatorI'm upgrading.... and thinking of partitioning
21:39.55Utah_Davethat way I have access to all my files and stuff regardless of the OS
21:40.04timinatorya, that's cool
21:40.18thebigdogi have a floppy partition
21:40.25Utah_DaveAfter I get my windows and ubuntu OS's installed, I take an image of each and put it on my data partition
21:41.07timinatorhow large are each?
21:42.35thebigdogmy floppy is not too big
21:42.46timinatorI've heard  ;)
21:42.55thebigdoghehe
21:43.10mindjujuyou left yourself wide open on that one
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21:43.59thebigdogoh no i took him there
21:44.09thebigdogbut then i realized i didnt want to go there
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21:44.11thebigdogand he went
21:44.22thebigdogtells you the kinda person timinator is :)
21:44.32Utah_Davetiminator: I have 15 gigs each for the OS partitions and 70 gigs for the data
21:44.32timinatorgoing where no man has been before
21:44.49thebigdogoh yes
21:44.59timinatorTY Utah_Dave
21:45.15Utah_Davetiminator: what's nice is that if I hose windows or something, I can reimage it back to a good state and I don't lose any data
21:45.25thebigdogtiminator, do you dual boot?
21:45.28timinatorya... fo sho
21:45.31timinatorno
21:45.35Black_Chaoswhat do you use to image it?
21:45.38timinatorI use a WIndows emulator
21:45.45thebigdogo
21:45.52timinatorbut I've thought of going w/ Boot Camp instead
21:45.55Utah_DaveI even have the same Firefox profile for windows and ubuntu on the data partition so I have the same bookmark, etc
21:46.27timinatorUtah_Dave: how do you route your My Docs folder to the Data Drive?
21:46.28Utah_DaveBlack_Chaos: I use Clonezilla.  it's not as fancy as Ghost, but it's GPL
21:46.46Utah_Daveright click on My Docs
21:46.54Utah_Davechange the  target folder location
21:47.35timinatorcan you do the same w/ the personal Desktop and such?
21:47.51Utah_Davewhat do you mean by personal Desktop?
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21:48.10timinatorwell, that whole User folder has several things in it
21:48.17Utah_Daveoh, right
21:48.20timinatorMy Docs, My Pics, Desktop, etc
21:48.21Utah_DaveUh, I'm not sure
21:48.25timinatorcan that all be routed?
21:48.28timinatorcool
21:48.37Black_Chaosthere shouldn't be anything on the desktop anyway
21:48.37timinatornot a big deal, just curious
21:49.39thebigdogtiminator loves icons
21:49.41Utah_DaveIt doesn't look like you can reroute the desktop, but I don't keep anything on there except for a couple of shortcuts
21:51.48mindjuju~jattack utah_dave
21:51.49jbotACTION mirrors a port on utah_dave 's switch and listens to all the juicy phone calls!
21:52.01Utah_Dave~sleep mindjuju
21:52.02jbotACTION sends mindjuju to bed without supper
21:52.21Utah_Davewell, gotta run off to a meeting
21:52.37mindjujucya
21:58.02timinatoricons are cool
21:58.13timinatorMac icons are very cool
21:58.35eggyknapion3 + a decent terminal are very cool :)
21:58.51timinator128px x 128px
21:59.33mindjujuoh, num 15!  - http://novelconcepts.co.uk/FlashElementTD/scoreboard.asp?name=mindjuju&score=18374
21:59.48mindjujuwho can beat that?
22:25.12brastoherlo, you 'round?
22:26.10brastoanyone part of UOS here?
22:26.20mindjujuyup
22:26.55mindjujuwhat up brasto
22:28.01brastoI'm thinking of emailing this to PLUG and UPHPU, but maybe it'd be better through UOS.  OpenOffice.org is calling for a location for its conference in 2008.
22:28.28brastoI have the announcement ready to forward.  I'd love to see it come to Utah County or Salt Lake County.
22:29.03brastoHow's this for a slogan: We did the Olympics, we can do OOOcon, too!
22:29.44mindjuju:)
22:30.42mindjujui think you should prolly send out to organizations you're directly affiliated with and send it to UTOS to send to everybody else
22:30.51mindjujuthat way you can represent your cause
22:33.51Jacob_Kerrhey I have some data in my database that has some encoded data for some special characters "%u2019" does anyone know how I can decode that?
22:34.22mindjujuin general or through php?
22:34.30Jacob_Kerrthrough php
22:34.42Jacob_KerrI tryed urldecode
22:34.50mindjujuyeah, that's not url encoded
22:34.54mindjujuit's called uuencode
22:35.10Jacob_Kerroh i c
22:35.14Jacob_Kerrunicode_decode
22:36.07Jacob_Kerrdang unicode_decode does not work on my server :(
22:36.29mindjujuyou can use JS to decrypt
22:36.43brastosounds good mindjuju.  I'll send it shortly.  How do I send to UOS?  Send directly to Clint, or use some other UOS email address?
22:36.55Jacob_Kerrk, thanx
22:37.43mindjujubrasto - i think on that, i'd send to clint and let him disseminate -- i know there is a planned channel to release that stuff, but don't know if it has matured to the point of functionality yet
22:39.10mindjujuoh wow, tomtom go510 - $179 on woot
22:39.15mindjujubut looks close to sold out
22:40.10mindjujuthat's $30 under ebay
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23:00.58thebigdogwooo...i just won
23:01.10mindjujuwhat did you win?  the wizard?
23:01.28thebigdog~won
23:02.16thebigdog~flip timinator
23:02.17jbotACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|.
23:02.32mindjujudid we ever find out what you won?
23:02.41thebigdoga pet rock
23:03.57mindjujumy pet rock got ran over when it ran off its leash
23:04.03mindjujuso i don't have pet rocks anymore
23:04.04thebigdogthat is terrible
23:04.12thebigdogyeah
23:13.26beandogpoor rocky
23:13.41beandogI need (another) new computer.
23:18.38mindjujui need a new comp that allows for SATA drives
23:19.59thebigdogok this site rocks - http://www.millerco.com/
23:20.12thebigdogmindjuju, i picked up a 500g sata for really good
23:20.29mindjujuyeah, that's why i need to switch over to SATA
23:20.46mindjujucheaper, faster, better
23:20.55thebigdogi need 2 more 500g drives
23:21.03mindjuju1.5T ?
23:21.11mindjujui'm envious
23:21.24thebigdogearly next year i will
23:21.26mindjujui'm looking for that at home, between 1 T and 2 T
23:27.49thebigdogyea
23:27.51Jacob_Kerrthis is driving me insane but does anyone know why this would not match something in () that has a-zA-z? The string does have a number in it: \(([a-zA-z]*?)\)
23:27.57thebigdogi have tons of pics
23:28.19thebigdogwhat are you trying to match
23:28.31Jacob_KerrAdd Footrest (adds 10 inches to length of table)
23:28.35Jacob_Kerreverything in the ()
23:29.04Jacob_KerrI have done a few other expressions on it that work fine this is the last one that I can not get to work..
23:29.27Jacob_Kerrso if it contains letters at all I want it to match even if it has a number in it
23:29.41thebigdogexcluding the ()
23:29.49Jacob_Kerryeah
23:30.42Jacob_KerrI really need to get better at regular expressions :)
23:31.11mindjujuJacob_Kerr - you may want to check out \w to see if that will work for you
23:31.32Jacob_Kerr\w means all words right
23:31.34mindjuju\w stands for any letter, number or underscore
23:31.40Jacob_Kerrk.
23:31.42SunSparcJacob_Kerr: http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Regular-Expressions-Jeffrey-Friedl/dp/0596528124/
23:31.55Jacob_Kerrthanx  .
23:31.58thebigdogthat is a good book
23:32.05mindjujuconcur
23:32.06SunSparcReally good.
23:32.17mindjujuhaven't had to do regex in years, but that's the book i learned from
23:34.20mindjuju~tunafart thebigdog
23:34.20jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to thebigdog, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
23:36.24Utah_Davethebigdog: I really love the email link on http://www.millerco.com/mainpages/main.shtml   great image!
23:36.34thebigdogoh yeah
23:36.38Jacob_Kerri wonder what the best way is to strip everything including the () if there's any non numerical characters in the ()
23:36.41thebigdogand the email give on the next page
23:39.59Jacob_Kerrshould [^0-9] match a string that has non numerical characters even if there are some numbers in the string?
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23:43.28Jacob_Kerrok [^0-9] works great for matching all non numerical characters but if I use: \(([^0-9])\) it's a no go :(
23:44.21synicyou probably want a + after the []
23:44.42Jacob_Kerrlike so? \(([+0-9])\)
23:44.49Jacob_Kerrwith the 6
23:44.51Jacob_Kerr^
23:44.55synicno
23:45.03synic\(([0-9]+)\)
23:45.10synicer..
23:45.14synic\(([^0-9]+)\)
23:51.23Jacob_Kerr^ means not right so ^0-9 means not 0-9?
23:52.11tierrayes

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