| 00:14.19 | timinator | I'm out... see ya'll |
| 00:16.17 | PoeticIntensity | quick question for any db experts out there. |
| 00:16.39 | PoeticIntensity | anyone have experience using "union" commands in PGSQL? |
| 00:17.09 | pelaofeliz | a bit... |
| 00:17.18 | PoeticIntensity | I'm reading up right now... |
| 00:17.25 | PoeticIntensity | if I have any questions, I'll ping ya. |
| 00:17.25 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 00:17.34 | PoeticIntensity | seems fairly straightforward. |
| 00:17.40 | pelaofeliz | yeah, should be... |
| 00:18.00 | pelaofeliz | I'm off in a few, though... |
| 00:24.57 | JacobKerr | Im getting an error when trying to include a class inside of another class via include.. |
| 00:25.02 | mgeary_ | what error |
| 00:25.09 | mgeary_ | are you using include_once() ? |
| 00:25.19 | mgeary_ | or better yet, require_once() |
| 00:26.15 | JacobKerr | Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_INCLUDE, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /var/www/vhosts/escoimports.com/httpdocs/custom-upgrade-scripts/includes/class.sunshop-conversion.php on line 5 |
| 00:26.24 | JacobKerr | just include() |
| 00:26.43 | mgeary_ | a parse error is a syntax error |
| 00:27.11 | mgeary_ | your include() is in an invalid place |
| 00:27.16 | JacobKerr | just include("class.mysql-db.php"); |
| 00:27.23 | mgeary_ | make sure it's *outside* the class{} declaration |
| 00:28.03 | mgeary_ | require_once("Some_Class.php"); |
| 00:28.04 | mgeary_ | class New_Class{.....} |
| 00:28.06 | JacobKerr | then i get a parse erro T_NEW for: // MAKE AN INSTANCE OF MY MYSQL DB CLASS |
| 00:28.06 | JacobKerr | var $mysql_db = new mysql_db(); |
| 00:28.42 | mgeary_ | pastebin your code |
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| 00:29.09 | JacobKerr | k. |
| 00:30.21 | PoeticIntensity | ugh. |
| 00:31.00 | JacobKerr | http://pastebin.com/dcc905ff |
| 00:31.06 | PoeticIntensity | this query is making my brain hurt. |
| 00:31.14 | PoeticIntensity | hasn't happened in a long time... :) |
| 00:40.44 | mgeary_ | JacobKerr: is that all one php file? |
| 00:40.56 | JacobKerr | no they are all seperate |
| 00:40.59 | mgeary_ | ah |
| 00:41.10 | JacobKerr | the last one is the one with the error |
| 00:41.44 | mgeary_ | class 2? |
| 00:42.12 | JacobKerr | it's on it's own (sunshop_conversion class) |
| 00:42.40 | mgeary_ | ahh |
| 00:42.56 | mgeary_ | yeah, you can't instantiate an object in the "empty" space of a class |
| 00:43.12 | mgeary_ | here's what you'd do instead: |
| 00:44.00 | mgeary_ | http://pastebin.com/m310eb0cb |
| 00:44.23 | mgeary_ | in php4 a function with the same name as the class is a "constructor" |
| 00:44.23 | JacobKerr | 2 =s ? |
| 00:44.32 | mgeary_ | it will be automatically called on instantiation |
| 00:44.52 | JacobKerr | oh nice set it in the constructor.. |
| 00:45.00 | mgeary_ | so, what we're doing is declaring a class variable "mysql_db", and then we populate that variable in the constructor |
| 00:45.21 | mgeary_ | you cannot set class variables to non-scalar values in the "header" of a class definition |
| 00:45.29 | bradym | sorry JacobKerr, I lead you astray... good thing mgeary_ is here :) |
| 00:46.23 | JacobKerr | no you were right I just did my include wrong.. |
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| 00:46.41 | JacobKerr | so I should keep the 2 =s> |
| 00:47.11 | bradym | no, that's a typo |
| 00:47.21 | bradym | should be just one = there |
| 00:47.35 | bradym | any oracle users around? |
| 00:48.02 | JacobKerr | k. |
| 00:48.33 | JacobKerr | so an I include a file with some set variable inside my class or should that be doen outside of my class? |
| 00:49.55 | bradym | i think you can do that in the constructor... could be wrong though |
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| 00:52.11 | bradym | if i was doing this, i'd include the file outside of the class, then in the constructor i'd set the default values from the config file... never tried to do it though, so it's just a guess |
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| 01:06.58 | jimmydean | hey i need some helpers |
| 01:07.07 | jimmydean | and some advice |
| 01:08.29 | mindjuju | hmm... some advice, well, don't take any wooden nickels, and a helper, change your password every six months. other than that, i'll be off and on my comp so if yo upost a question, i'll prolly see it |
| 01:08.40 | jimmydean | lol thanks |
| 01:08.44 | jimmydean | what's the best way to get a list of local php developers and their rates and portfolios |
| 01:08.59 | jimmydean | i mean that's what i'd need if i want to subcontract |
| 01:09.08 | jimmydean | maybe i should post an ad in the paper for help wanted |
| 01:09.33 | mindjuju | well, we have a job posting area / mailing list that you can post a job to |
| 01:09.48 | jimmydean | i have and will have several, so i need a few guys i know and can trust |
| 01:10.51 | mindjuju | hmm... in that case you may want to contact macnewbold - he owns codegreene |
| 01:10.51 | mindjuju | mighty fine php programmers there |
| 01:14.10 | mindjuju | jimmydean, did you want info on how to post to mailing list or how to contact codegreene? |
| 01:14.50 | jimmydean | i found their site |
| 01:14.51 | jimmydean | thanks |
| 01:17.55 | macnewbold | howdy jimmydean |
| 01:18.01 | macnewbold | if you're looking for me, I'm still around today |
| 01:18.05 | jimmydean | hi macnewbold |
| 01:19.12 | macnewbold | we've got a great team of people, current going rate is $100/hour. We take on a wide variety of projects, from about $5000 to $30,000+, as well as helping with stuff on an hourly basis |
| 01:19.32 | jimmydean | wow what type of projects are $30k |
| 01:20.06 | jimmydean | my budget is only $3-7k :( |
| 01:20.30 | macnewbold | we've had sites whose owners have spent $100K+/year on them |
| 01:20.38 | macnewbold | highly custom stuff usually |
| 01:21.01 | jimmydean | :o i am interested in links to those if you don't mind. just out of curiosity |
| 01:21.02 | macnewbold | what kind of project is it? What do you need done? |
| 01:21.14 | macnewbold | the best poster child is probably www.3-form.com |
| 01:21.45 | macnewbold | that doesn't include the money they paid their internal design team for work on the web site |
| 01:22.00 | macnewbold | we did all the php/mysql/html/css stuff, plus the integration with their internal MS SQL server. |
| 01:22.28 | macnewbold | the coolest part is that they actually got a bigger return on their investment than they put into it |
| 01:22.46 | macnewbold | one set of changes we made eliminated the need for 2-3 full-time people |
| 01:22.51 | jimmydean | wow |
| 01:23.48 | macnewbold | with a bit of streamlining and adding some efficiency, you can really save people a lot of money with a bit of web programming :) |
| 01:27.07 | jimmydean | :) |
| 01:44.35 | macnewbold | well, I'm heading out soon, jimmydean - let me know if there's anything we can do for you or if you want to discuss your project more. I'm available here usually, or email always works - mac@codegreene.com |
| 02:59.04 | mindjuju | finally, everybody gone from the office! |
| 02:59.22 | burnin | mindjuju, time to crank the tunes? |
| 02:59.35 | burnin | AC/DC - Night Prowler |
| 02:59.35 | mindjuju | oh yeah |
| 03:00.10 | mindjuju | good times |
| 03:14.59 | orsonj | burnin: I like how you've done the comment nesting. looks clean and sharp |
| 03:15.17 | burnin | orsonj, did you see with the border line removed? |
| 03:15.57 | burnin | orsonj, I wanted to avoid indentations, but your idea to collapse them saves a lot of space. |
| 03:15.59 | orsonj | yep, just looked at it again. I think it works fine without the lines since you've got it color coded |
| 03:30.06 | orsonj | you know, if you ditched the indentation and arrows. it would still work. (that's probably where you started) But I think its current form is easier to grasp for people who haven't seen it before. |
| 03:31.17 | burnin | orsonj, yeah, with explanation it could be read, but that's why I asked for some opinions. :) would someone be confused by the lack of indents and just walk away. |
| 03:34.43 | orsonj | They might. You could have a per user option to enable/disable indentation/arrows so average people would have enough there to follow it, but those who have gotten accustomed could have the clean style. |
| 03:35.59 | orsonj | If you wern't familiar with it, someone might confuse the colors for some type of comment rating system, etc. |
| 03:44.22 | orsonj | The most recent talk posted to ted.com is pretty cool. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/175 |
| 03:45.06 | orsonj | This guy put a computer in third world countries and let kids curiosity get the best of them. |
| 03:45.49 | orsonj | Kids who never saw a computer in their life figured out how to use a computer/internet in under ten minutes. |
| 03:46.41 | orsonj | And that was without instruction, just a computer sticking out of a side of a building not unlike an atm. |
| 03:48.48 | mindjuju | burnin you around |
| 03:48.54 | burnin | mindjuju, yes |
| 03:49.08 | burnin | orsonj, I saw some video of that experiment a few years back |
| 03:49.15 | mindjuju | PM sent |
| 03:49.54 | burnin | orsonj, very cool, their was no keyboard and the kids figured out things they could do with the mouse that the guy who installed the computer didn't know about. |
| 03:49.55 | burnin | lol |
| 03:50.14 | burnin | brb... |
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| 03:50.29 | mindjuju | nice |
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| 04:00.34 | influx^^ | Jaaaaaa jaaaaa jaaaaaa. |
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| 04:18.36 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 04:18.41 | macnewbold | boring |
| 04:18.55 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 04:19.05 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 04:20.28 | mindjuju | macnewbold, i want a whopper if that guy buy's ya'lls service |
| 04:20.49 | mindjuju | double whopper if it's a big deal, even! |
| 04:21.02 | mindjuju | j/k |
| 04:23.00 | orsonj | mmmmm... my grandpa was the whopper king. He'd always go get a dozen or so whoppers, bring them back and say eat up! |
| 04:23.14 | mindjuju | love whopper king |
| 04:23.26 | mindjuju | there are none within a 10 mile radius of me though |
| 04:26.00 | beandog | Intel's suck, that is all. |
| 04:26.11 | orsonj | He also got me hooked on horseradish. Occasionaly he would get arbys roast beef sandwiches and he just put it on my sandwiches. said: you'll like horsey sauce, eat up! |
| 04:26.36 | mindjuju | too funny |
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| 04:41.16 | mindjuju | not sure of question, are you asking who or what is whopper king? |
| 04:42.58 | mindjuju | here is who - http://img.jobing.com/company/images/burgerking_profilepic1.gif |
| 04:42.58 | mindjuju | here is what - http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=whopper+king+orem,+utah&ie=UTF8&z=9&om=1 |
| 04:44.22 | mindjuju | what do they make besides whoppers? |
| 04:44.33 | burnin | lol |
| 04:44.36 | mindjuju | well, and whopper jr |
| 04:44.43 | mindjuju | and Texas Whopper |
| 04:45.11 | mindjuju | even the sodas they server have a whopper at the bottom so you get the meaty taste |
| 04:45.47 | burnin | hmm, char-broiled burger flavored soda? no thanks. |
| 04:45.55 | mindjuju | heh |
| 04:46.09 | mindjuju | k, that's a complete fabrication |
| 04:46.15 | burnin | hehe |
| 04:46.26 | herlo | mindjuju: they make the italian sandwich, fries, drinks, and shakes |
| 04:46.39 | herlo | oh, and cini-minis |
| 04:46.53 | mindjuju | who knew? still though, the joint's called Whopper King |
| 04:47.30 | herlo | mindjuju: I think you are up in the night, but since I don't care all that much, I'll let it slide |
| 04:47.35 | mindjuju | best hamburgers this side of the Florida Keys |
| 04:47.45 | herlo | ~lart mindjuju |
| 04:47.45 | jbot | strangles mindjuju with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 04:48.01 | herlo | you forget about in n out burger my friend |
| 04:48.18 | mindjuju | never had one, but really can't imagine it being better |
| 04:48.48 | herlo | mindjuju: oh, but they are, the double-double is the bomb |
| 04:48.48 | mindjuju | how does a person +1 perfection ? |
| 04:48.59 | mindjuju | not possible |
| 04:49.43 | mindjuju | k, i'll be rational and honest for a minute though, there is one thing better than a whopper |
| 04:49.48 | mindjuju | a double whopper! |
| 04:49.50 | herlo | mindjuju: trust me, whoppers aren't perfection |
| 04:50.14 | herlo | whoppers in fact are far from perfection, they are great some places, but suck majorly others... |
| 04:50.59 | mindjuju | i've traveled my fair share, have sampled burgers from around |
| 04:51.06 | mindjuju | whopper king takes them all |
| 04:51.23 | herlo | again, you've not had the double-double, and until you have, you can't claim it king. |
| 04:51.25 | mindjuju | like i say, this side of the Florida Keys, Whopper king tops |
| 04:51.54 | mindjuju | as long as we hit every whopper king between here and there |
| 04:52.15 | mindjuju | and I get to pick up a bucket of Popeye's Fried Chicken for the trip home - Popeyes Chicken is FREAKIN' AWESOME! |
| 04:53.38 | herlo | Popeyes doesn't exist west of Texas except in Vegas and LA |
| 04:53.48 | herlo | but you are right, Popeyes rocks! |
| 04:54.28 | mindjuju | there is one in colorado |
| 04:54.54 | mindjuju | and actually, there should be a couple in NC and SC cause we hit them on the way home from a tourney |
| 04:55.39 | herlo | oh yeah, you're right Denver does have one... |
| 04:55.54 | herlo | NC and SC are east of TX |
| 04:56.00 | herlo | at least last I checked they were |
| 04:56.03 | herlo | :) |
| 04:56.57 | mindjuju | i wonder who i have to talk to, to get a freakin' popeyes up here |
| 04:57.12 | mindjuju | better than KFC, fo sho |
| 05:03.13 | mindjuju | k, but here is the question, if you had a bucket of KFC and a box of popeyes, which would you choose to start snacking on? |
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| 05:05.38 | herlo | snacking, popeyes. Dinner, KFC |
| 05:05.43 | herlo | or Picnic, KFC |
| 05:05.50 | herlo | but |
| 05:06.06 | herlo | friends would be Popeyes, family would be KFC |
| 05:12.47 | influx^^ | Friends > Family?! |
| 05:12.50 | influx^^ | The truth comes out. |
| 05:12.54 | mindjuju | man, talk about a day, tons of coding followed by a break where i shredded documents like i was at enron and then back to coding when i got tired |
| 05:13.44 | mindjuju | man, now i'm hungry for Popeyes |
| 05:13.58 | mindjuju | i wish i knew sombody who could FedEx me some |
| 05:17.28 | herlo | ~fedex mindjuju Popeye's Chicken |
| 05:17.38 | herlo | ~buy mindjuju Popeye's Chicken |
| 05:17.38 | jbot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen Popeye's Chickens for mindjuju |
| 05:17.48 | mindjuju | nice |
| 05:18.02 | mindjuju | the worst part about it is that Comcast always plays popeyes chicken commercials |
| 05:18.04 | mindjuju | makes me mad |
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| 14:52.10 | beandog | ~wake ze channel |
| 14:52.11 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ze channel and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 14:58.49 | timinator | ~morning |
| 14:58.50 | jbot | Good morning! |
| 15:00.42 | beandog | I think Im going to have pumpkin cookies for breakfast. |
| 15:00.47 | beandog | and lunch. |
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| 15:36.05 | orsonj | looks like the pumpkin cookies didn't work out too well. |
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| 15:46.18 | timinator | installing upgrades..... BRB |
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| 15:54.36 | Utah_Dave | geez. I learned the hard way to run sanity checks on ALL data. |
| 15:55.01 | Utah_Dave | Somebody created a new OU in our Novell server and didn't bother to tell anyone. |
| 15:55.32 | Utah_Dave | caused some data loss when a couple new people in that OU tried to authenticate to my app |
| 15:55.47 | Utah_Dave | and that OU wasn't set up in my app |
| 15:56.17 | Utah_Dave | Luckily, I learned the hard way a long time ago to make sure to have REALLY good backups of all data |
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| 16:11.51 | timinator | back.... upgraded :) |
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| 16:15.46 | orsonj | anyone have any idea why a password protected excel file would look like a Microsoft Installer |
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| 16:21.50 | mgeary | morning all |
| 16:22.05 | Utah_Dave | morning |
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| 16:28.40 | mgeary | "kkubasik" ? |
| 16:33.08 | mindjuju | orsonj - not sure, but i used to rename files from myDiary.doc winsys.dll just to hide it |
| 16:33.16 | mindjuju | i wonder if it is the same thing? |
| 16:33.26 | orsonj | qbasic pronounced strangely, transcribed, then kdeified? |
| 16:33.43 | orsonj | I used the linux 'file' utility |
| 16:33.55 | orsonj | however openoffice opened it just fine (after typing the password) |
| 16:37.50 | JacobKerr | What's the name for the variables set as "var variablename" at the top of a class? |
| 16:38.24 | JacobKerr | I just call them global variables... |
| 16:39.33 | pelaofeliz | member variables or properties... |
| 16:40.17 | JacobKerr | k, thanx |
| 16:52.14 | mgeary | they are class variables |
| 16:52.19 | mgeary | or properties |
| 16:52.38 | mgeary | ^5 pelaofeliz |
| 16:54.29 | timinator | orsonj: I misname a few files myself to disguise their true purpose |
| 16:54.32 | timinator | :) |
| 16:56.44 | JacobKerr | Thanx fro your help yest. mgeary I learned allot and everything is working great now ;) |
| 16:56.54 | mgeary | cool |
| 17:05.51 | orsonj | I think my magic may just be old. |
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| 17:26.36 | timinator | linux question, if you don't mind: |
| 17:27.09 | timinator | what's the syntax to find all files of a certain type, then copy them to another directory? |
| 17:28.44 | timinator | find . -name "*.mp3" | cp /home/timothy/mp3s/ |
| 17:29.04 | timinator | I know I'm close on that... but missing something |
| 17:29.09 | timinator | right? |
| 17:29.31 | mgeary | rsync :) |
| 17:29.35 | mgeary | or scp -R |
| 17:29.36 | pelaofeliz | try this: find . -name *.mp3 | xargs -i cp '{}' /home/timothy/mp3s/ |
| 17:30.19 | mgeary | rsync -av --include="*.mp3" /path/to/top/dir /home/timothy/mp3s/ |
| 17:31.45 | timinator | cool |
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| 17:34.50 | timinator | thanks guys.... both solutions taught me something new |
| 17:35.38 | pelaofeliz | the nice thing about the find+xargs method is you can use mv, too... |
| 17:35.48 | timinator | right |
| 17:35.56 | timinator | how'd you know to use '{}'? |
| 17:36.58 | pelaofeliz | Google :) |
| 17:37.31 | timinator | :) |
| 17:37.41 | pelaofeliz | I find I need to do something with find+xargs every couple of weeks -- it's a great tool |
| 17:37.51 | timinator | what did we ever do before Google?!?! |
| 17:37.54 | timinator | ya, fo sho |
| 17:39.21 | PoeticIntensity | yo, orsonj, could you give me the link again to the computer ted talk? |
| 17:39.30 | PoeticIntensity | and beandog, why does Intel suck? |
| 17:40.16 | pelaofeliz | PI: did you get your UNION stuff figured out? |
| 17:40.26 | PoeticIntensity | nope... |
| 17:40.32 | PoeticIntensity | it was the wrong solution... |
| 17:40.37 | PoeticIntensity | the more I tried it, the more it didn't work... :) |
| 17:40.45 | PoeticIntensity | I got the syntax right, but it wasn't what I needed. |
| 17:40.53 | pelaofeliz | ah |
| 17:41.01 | PoeticIntensity | instead, I just made two queries instead of one, and joined them into an array. |
| 17:41.24 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for askin', though! |
| 17:41.35 | PoeticIntensity | where you from, pelaofeliz ? |
| 17:45.12 | JacobKerr | Does anyone know what's wrong with this query (MySQL) " SELECT * FROM `items` WHERE categories LIKE '%|5->%' or LIKE '5->%' AND viewable = 'yes' " |
| 17:45.38 | PoeticIntensity | what's the pipe for? |
| 17:45.44 | PoeticIntensity | '%|5->%' |
| 17:45.51 | PoeticIntensity | after the first percent. |
| 17:45.53 | JacobKerr | I want to find that.. it's saved in the db |
| 17:46.03 | PoeticIntensity | that might be a special char... |
| 17:46.07 | JacobKerr | dang.. |
| 17:46.13 | PoeticIntensity | not sure, though. |
| 17:46.18 | PoeticIntensity | what error is it throwing? |
| 17:46.38 | JacobKerr | #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'LIKE '5->%' AND viewable = 'yes' |
| 17:46.39 | JacobKerr | LIMIT 0, 30' at line 1 |
| 17:46.55 | fungus | You need to type "categories" again |
| 17:47.10 | PoeticIntensity | ah... fungus is right. |
| 17:47.18 | PoeticIntensity | OR categories LIKE '5..... |
| 17:47.36 | JacobKerr | nice thanx man! |
| 17:48.06 | JacobKerr | Yeah! It worked.. |
| 17:49.35 | fungus | Sweet, Dark Side of the Rainbow playing at the Tower Friday and Saturday at Midnight. |
| 17:50.47 | mgeary | sounds like a Pink Floyd album title |
| 17:50.57 | fungus | It is. |
| 17:51.02 | mgeary | score |
| 17:51.04 | fungus | http://www.google.com/ig |
| 17:51.06 | fungus | doh |
| 17:51.18 | fungus | Wizard of Oz synched with Dark Side of the Moon |
| 17:51.28 | mgeary | that's just wrong |
| 17:52.16 | fungus | no, it's just cool |
| 17:52.53 | pelaofeliz | PoeticIntensity: I'm from Provo. You? |
| 17:53.08 | PoeticIntensity | I'm in Springville... |
| 17:54.51 | fungus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Rainbow |
| 17:58.08 | JacobKerr | macnewbold: are you getting my PMs? |
| 18:00.33 | JacobKerr | ok how do I log on? |
| 18:00.48 | JacobKerr | I registered but PM is not working maybe I did not log on right |
| 18:02.26 | macnewbold | JacobKerr: try /msg NickServ identify mypassword |
| 18:02.31 | macnewbold | replace mypassword with your password |
| 18:02.38 | macnewbold | then type it in here so we can make sure it is right |
| 18:02.47 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, Im just having problems, I think I got it worked out now. |
| 18:02.56 | PoeticIntensity | ah. |
| 18:03.01 | PoeticIntensity | just curious.. :) |
| 18:03.01 | beandog | nvidia driver has been causing havoc, which I shouldnt be using anyway |
| 18:03.29 | beandog | I finally bought a Sound Blaster card too |
| 18:03.36 | beandog | sounds nice. |
| 18:03.41 | JacobKerr | saying my password is wrong.. |
| 18:03.41 | PoeticIntensity | cool. |
| 18:03.43 | beandog | I'm really ticked I had to spend $$$ though. |
| 18:03.43 | JacobKerr | hmm |
| 18:03.47 | beandog | Ill never live that down. |
| 18:03.55 | PoeticIntensity | yes you will :) |
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| 18:09.48 | JacobKerr | this is not working keeps saying I have the wrong password and I am almost positive this is what I set as my pass :( : /msg NickServ identify joeslim |
| 18:10.05 | JacobKerr | hehe you all know my password now.. NO! |
| 18:10.23 | macnewbold | and it's archived permanently on the internet publicly now too ;) |
| 18:10.31 | JacobKerr | LOL.. |
| 18:10.34 | JacobKerr | oh well. |
| 18:10.39 | macnewbold | does your IRC client keep logs for you? |
| 18:10.40 | mindjuju | better change it |
| 18:11.12 | mindjuju | that reminds me |
| 18:11.17 | JacobKerr | not sure. |
| 18:11.19 | JacobKerr | Xchat. |
| 18:11.23 | mindjuju | ~seen _psychic_ |
| 18:11.26 | jbot | _psychic_ <n=_psychic@66.7.114.125> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 28d 20h 34m 49s ago, saying: 'ugh with static commit log messages'. |
| 18:12.28 | macnewbold | JacobKerr: see my last /msg |
| 18:12.54 | JacobKerr | k. |
| 18:15.01 | mindjuju | hey, when converting hours into decimal notation, all we have to do is carry the hours over, no processing and (decimal)(60), right? so 4.5 hours is (.5)(60) |
| 18:15.15 | mindjuju | it just seems too simple, like i'm missing something |
| 18:19.35 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/img/itagony.gif |
| 18:26.53 | Utah_Dave | beandog: that's sweet |
| 18:27.33 | timinator | beandog: very nice |
| 18:36.21 | PoeticIntensity | beandog: simply awesome. |
| 18:38.49 | cycokilr | gross man.. |
| 18:42.36 | timinator | did someone here work at Omniture? |
| 18:44.18 | wps | jsmith used to |
| 18:44.20 | wps | I do currently |
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| 18:55.35 | timinator | ah |
| 18:56.01 | timinator | cool |
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| 19:20.25 | orsonj | work at omniture or carbonate milk |
| 19:20.39 | orsonj | ;) |
| 19:27.46 | JacobKerr | how would one go about doing a foreach loop on a multidimensional array like http://www.escoimports.com/custom-upgrade-scripts/urls.php |
| 19:28.22 | JacobKerr | or maybe a while loop is beter? Hmmm.. |
| 19:29.32 | JacobKerr | I c I would need to put foreach loops within foreach loops.. What a pain :) |
| 19:33.24 | timinator | no, 1 loop would suffice |
| 19:33.36 | timinator | foreach($array as $a=>$b) { } |
| 19:33.46 | timinator | then $a is the number |
| 19:33.51 | timinator | and $b is an array |
| 19:33.56 | timinator | so, you could do this |
| 19:34.21 | timinator | foreach($array as $a=>$b) { echo $b["category_title"]; } |
| 19:34.51 | JacobKerr | yeah that would work perfect I think.. |
| 19:35.22 | JacobKerr | Thanx man. Sometime the simple things can blow your mind if it's new to you ;) |
| 19:37.54 | timinator | :) np |
| 19:51.55 | orsonj | PoeticIntensity: I can't find the TED video now. I wonder if they took it down. |
| 19:56.24 | timinator | what ted video? |
| 19:56.38 | timinator | ted nugent? |
| 19:57.04 | timinator | that was my video I shared, and it's still online |
| 19:57.33 | orsonj | http://www.lift06.org/sugata-mitra-ted-talks |
| 19:57.36 | orsonj | found it |
| 19:58.13 | timinator | oop... nope, that's not mine |
| 19:59.14 | orsonj | if you missed out, ted talks are at ted.com amazing talks by smart people that help you regain your hope in humanity. |
| 20:01.25 | orsonj | http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 (this is one of the best. "Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?") |
| 20:10.27 | SunSparc | That is an interesting video and an interesting site. Thanks for the link. |
| 20:22.08 | JacobKerr | why would this query pull up information from the database that has viewable as no? "SELECT * FROM items WHERE categories LIKE '%|2->%' OR categories LIKE '2->%' AND viewable = 'Yes'" |
| 20:22.40 | burnin | put () around the two AND items |
| 20:22.50 | burnin | err, or |
| 20:23.00 | JacobKerr | k, thanx man |
| 20:23.14 | timinator | are you storing arrays in a text field in the DB? |
| 20:23.53 | JacobKerr | looks like the cat is an array |
| 20:24.05 | JacobKerr | I used this query and still get no.. Dang: SELECT * FROM items WHERE (categories LIKE '%|2->%' ) OR (categories LIKE '2->%') AND viewable = 'Yes' |
| 20:25.26 | timinator | it'd be better to break that into another table |
| 20:25.57 | JacobKerr | Well I can not change the structure of the DB, I am just setting up a export feature |
| 20:26.01 | fungus | SELECT * FROM items WHERE (categories LIKE '%|2->%' OR categories LIKE '2->%') AND viewable = 'Yes' |
| 20:26.10 | timinator | k |
| 20:26.13 | JacobKerr | oh i c.. thanx man |
| 20:26.52 | JacobKerr | Thanx a bunch that worked well.. |
| 20:28.07 | fungus | The viewable clause is meant to apply to both categories clauses. Without the parens it will only apply to the last categories clause. |
| 20:30.04 | fungus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_logic |
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| 21:07.10 | mindjuju | ~stressed |
| 21:07.11 | jbot | Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking! |
| 21:17.29 | JacobKerr | LOL.. |
| 21:29.23 | beandog | heh |
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| 21:38.10 | SunSparc | Any amfphp gurus in here? |
| 21:38.18 | SunSparc | Or at least someone who knows how to specify data types coming from amf into Flash/Flex? |
| 21:38.18 | PoeticIntensity | ~hark mgeary |
| 21:38.29 | mgeary | forsooth |
| 21:38.53 | SunSparc | Art thou the guru? |
| 21:39.41 | mgeary | hmm... i'm afraid i don't have an answer for that on the top o' my head. I haven't had the opportunity to work with AMFPHP for several months now... :9 |
| 21:39.58 | SunSparc | :( |
| 22:20.15 | PoeticIntensity | alright... I've got a question for all you framework zealots out there... |
| 22:20.51 | PoeticIntensity | I have pretty good experience with a framework I got exposed to by two brilliant developers and have been using it ever since. |
| 22:21.00 | PoeticIntensity | they created this framework. |
| 22:21.10 | PoeticIntensity | it's not anything great, but it works... |
| 22:21.11 | PoeticIntensity | now... |
| 22:21.27 | PoeticIntensity | I'm posed with a situation for which this framework just won't work. |
| 22:21.40 | PoeticIntensity | hold on... lemme get a screenshot. |
| 22:24.06 | PoeticIntensity | http://poeticintensity.com/deleteme_grid.jpg |
| 22:24.08 | PoeticIntensity | okay... |
| 22:24.12 | PoeticIntensity | take a look at that image... |
| 22:24.22 | mgeary | how long? |
| 22:24.31 | mgeary | ;) |
| 22:24.37 | PoeticIntensity | and tell me if anyone's framework (at least 3 hours) can handle its creation.... |
| 22:24.44 | PoeticIntensity | *all* information on that grid is dynamic... |
| 22:24.50 | PoeticIntensity | meaning, it may - or may not - be there at all. |
| 22:24.59 | PoeticIntensity | the whole "NS" column may disappear. |
| 22:25.13 | PoeticIntensity | the numbers at the top may or may not be there... |
| 22:25.27 | PoeticIntensity | there could be hundreds of numbers at the top (above hte NS, NF stuff) |
| 22:25.35 | mgeary | i don't see this as being a framework issue |
| 22:25.39 | mgeary | i see it as a template issue |
| 22:25.45 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah... definitely. |
| 22:25.59 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... you're right, mgeary ... |
| 22:26.21 | PoeticIntensity | my framework has templates.... but the templates I'm using can't be *this* dynamic. |
| 22:26.31 | PoeticIntensity | My question is: |
| 22:26.58 | PoeticIntensity | Does something this dynamic warrant just a "let's go back to the basics and jam HTML inside PHP and echo the result"... ? |
| 22:27.35 | PoeticIntensity | quite honestly, I've never had to create a table at this level of... dynamicicity...? (sp?) |
| 22:27.42 | PoeticIntensity | and I'm wondering what you'd all do. |
| 22:27.47 | PoeticIntensity | getting the data is not an issue... |
| 22:28.05 | PoeticIntensity | the data is gathered by two queries which are then joined into an array, by which this table is created. |
| 22:28.34 | mgeary | so what does your array look like? |
| 22:28.48 | PoeticIntensity | it's a two-level multi-dim array. |
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| 22:29.32 | PoeticIntensity | with the 1-st level key being the date, the 2nd level being the customer_ID (number at the top), which then houses an array with the keys being data-identifiers and the values being the actual data displayed. |
| 22:29.40 | mgeary | ok |
| 22:30.00 | mgeary | and so you expose that array to your template system |
| 22:30.11 | PoeticIntensity | is that a question? |
| 22:30.14 | mgeary | no |
| 22:30.18 | PoeticIntensity | ah ok.... |
| 22:30.21 | mgeary | sec |
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| 22:30.50 | mgeary | well, one problem is that your data array doesn't really match the layout requirement you've got in your template |
| 22:30.52 | PoeticIntensity | gone so long, beandog ? |
| 22:31.08 | PoeticIntensity | well..... mgeary ... that's the whole proble. |
| 22:31.10 | PoeticIntensity | m |
| 22:31.14 | fungus | Morton's bouffant phallus |
| 22:31.15 | beandog | dhcp issues. |
| 22:31.28 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: is restructuring the data array an option? |
| 22:31.30 | PoeticIntensity | the data is so friggin' dynamic, try to create a template is like....... |
| 22:31.36 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, absolutely. |
| 22:31.39 | fungus | Saddle Thermometer Dung Balloon Star Highway Map |
| 22:31.40 | PoeticIntensity | I have complete control. |
| 22:32.40 | PoeticIntensity | I've just never had to create a template that had to take such dynamic content into consideration. |
| 22:32.49 | PoeticIntensity | it might be 1 column with 10000 rows... |
| 22:32.54 | PoeticIntensity | it might be 10000 columns with 1 row. |
| 22:32.54 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:32.59 | mgeary | ugh |
| 22:33.12 | PoeticIntensity | and each row has a "colspan" in it, which might be 1,2, or 3. |
| 22:33.23 | PoeticIntensity | or quite possibly, nothing at all. |
| 22:33.48 | PoeticIntensity | they might want to just see the "NS" within the customer group, or all three. |
| 22:34.01 | PoeticIntensity | for 10 years on one customer.... |
| 22:34.07 | PoeticIntensity | or one month for 10000 customers. |
| 22:34.44 | PoeticIntensity | the fact that I've been able to generate an array on the requirements makes me feel like I've actually learned something this week. |
| 22:34.51 | mgeary | heh |
| 22:34.52 | PoeticIntensity | and.... |
| 22:35.06 | PoeticIntensity | the table you see is actually generating based on the dynamic content... |
| 22:35.08 | PoeticIntensity | BUT |
| 22:35.25 | PoeticIntensity | the HTML-generating code looks like it was written by a freshman. |
| 22:35.59 | PoeticIntensity | foreach loops with $table .= "<tr><td colspan='$g'>$blahblah['blah']</td></tr>"; |
| 22:36.02 | mgeary | well, one thing i'd consider would be to nest a table. that way you could iterate through all data for one client at once |
| 22:36.19 | PoeticIntensity | well... yeah.... |
| 22:36.29 | PoeticIntensity | that'd bork my whole data-gathering schema... |
| 22:36.40 | mgeary | how so? |
| 22:36.44 | PoeticIntensity | however.... that approach is totally viable. |
| 22:36.50 | PoeticIntensity | (just the way I'm doing it now) |
| 22:37.10 | PoeticIntensity | personally, I'd rather not nest and have crappy PHP / HTML code than nest and make my code look pretty. |
| 22:37.24 | PoeticIntensity | my main question has been answered.... |
| 22:37.26 | mgeary | a valid position, i suppose |
| 22:37.37 | PoeticIntensity | I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something simple. |
| 22:37.52 | PoeticIntensity | for it to warrant an "ugh" from mgeary tells me a bunch. ;-) |
| 22:37.55 | mgeary | hahahaha |
| 22:38.18 | PoeticIntensity | it's by far the most hairy table I've ever had to generate. |
| 22:38.24 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... |
| 22:38.30 | PoeticIntensity | I'm replacing this: |
| 22:38.39 | bradym | Have you considered using XML & XSLT? Might be worth looking into.. |
| 22:39.20 | PoeticIntensity | bradym, I would - if I had to do this every day. |
| 22:39.50 | PoeticIntensity | this is by far the exception. |
| 22:39.50 | bradym | yeah, little overboard for one exception |
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| 22:41.41 | PoeticIntensity | http://poeticintensity.com/deleteme_grid2.jpg |
| 22:41.46 | PoeticIntensity | that is what I'm re-creating.... |
| 22:41.58 | PoeticIntensity | (done in ASP, and I don't know jack about ASP, so I'm re-doing it all in PHP) |
| 22:42.12 | PoeticIntensity | (the account names have been erased) |
| 22:43.03 | PoeticIntensity | anywho.... |
| 22:43.13 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for humoring me, mgeary and bradym |
| 22:44.02 | mgeary | enjoy, amigo |
| 22:46.36 | PoeticIntensity | for those interested..... |
| 22:46.45 | PoeticIntensity | here is the code I've got so far (just the display code) |
| 22:46.58 | PoeticIntensity | http://rafb.net/p/a06pSl72.html |
| 22:52.38 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 22:52.45 | jbot | dataw0lf is currently on #utah (12d 3h 40m 35s). Has said a total of 280 messages. Is idling for 54m 52s, last said: 'yea, my girlfriend has a video card of similar quality, and she runs Earth fine.'. |
| 22:53.14 | mgeary | ~ping dataw0lf|h |
| 22:53.14 | jbot | pong dataw0lf|h |
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| 23:03.43 | orsonj | ~rejoice |
| 23:03.43 | jbot | No, damit!!! |
| 23:11.51 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 23:13.19 | beandog | Okay |
| 23:13.22 | beandog | now this is disgusting |
| 23:13.26 | beandog | I went and got some wheat thins |
| 23:13.34 | beandog | and put them in my sweatshirt pocket and was eating em out of there |
| 23:13.35 | PoeticIntensity | I just saw the results of a pitbull vs. porcupine.. |
| 23:13.38 | beandog | I just ate the last one |
| 23:13.41 | beandog | didn't taste quite right ... |
| 23:13.43 | beandog | yum |
| 23:13.47 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 23:14.00 | PoeticIntensity | the pitbull had 1,347 quills in him... |
| 23:14.10 | PoeticIntensity | 95% of which were in his face, mouth, etc... |
| 23:14.13 | PoeticIntensity | in-sane. |
| 23:15.00 | PoeticIntensity | http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_pit_bull_vs_porcupine.htm |
| 23:15.08 | mindjuju | beandog - i don't get it, what was on the last wheat thin? |
| 23:15.20 | unum | I don't think he knows |
| 23:15.24 | beandog | thats the question of the hour |
| 23:16.02 | mindjuju | oh, i see |
| 23:16.12 | mindjuju | well, was the wheat thin "gushy" |
| 23:16.23 | beandog | actually it tasted like salsa |
| 23:16.27 | beandog | which makes things even more interesting. |
| 23:16.34 | unum | dogs are so stupid |
| 23:17.00 | beandog | seriously |
| 23:32.08 | beandog | or wheat things. |
| 23:50.13 | timinator | gotta run... later guys |
