| 00:38.30 | burnin | http://burnin.chaogenus.org/basicblog/ |
| 00:38.43 | burnin | still needs tons of work if thats what I go with |
| 00:39.12 | burnin | added some fake discussion threads to see if the flow works |
| 01:13.40 | orsonj | I think that could work. The algorithm would be more complex than a standard one though. |
| 01:16.36 | burnin | yeah, I'd need to work on the link graphics a bit and try to do some intelligent sorting of the messages. |
| 01:16.38 | orsonj | I guess if a node has no siblings then you can backdent it. (new term courtsey of Orson) |
| 01:16.47 | burnin | :) |
| 01:16.51 | burnin | outdent |
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| 02:14.29 | orsonj | burnin: http://tetratech.info/orson/thread.html (I'd probably indent them like this) |
| 02:15.19 | orsonj | I like how yours looks, but it needs lines (you probably know that) and I'd indent them like in my link |
| 02:15.48 | burnin | yeah, I was thinking about the lines, or some other method of tracking up to the parent post. |
| 02:16.04 | burnin | I like the idea of placing the reply link above instead of to the side |
| 02:16.21 | burnin | leaves more room on the side for the parent links |
| 02:24.40 | burnin | curious, what does the syntax div.node div.wrap, div.compactnod div.wrap { do? |
| 02:24.47 | burnin | I see the wrap has the color for the background |
| 02:24.59 | burnin | does that syntax create some type of inheritance? |
| 02:29.30 | burnin | nm, got it |
| 03:52.06 | burnin | orsonj, http://burnin.chaogenus.org/basicblog/ |
| 03:58.31 | burnin | probably look better if I figure out a way to not have those lines extending down where their is no comment. |
| 06:28.19 | duranged | IF ANYONE WANTS TO DO A SMALL SIDE PROJECT WITH THEIR PHP KNOWLEDGE PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO RYAN@WHITEGAUGES.NET, PAY IS ALLWAYS VERY WELL.... |
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| 08:26.30 | tierra | http://picasaweb.google.com/ibaku.gallery/UPHPUNovember2007Meeting |
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| 15:48.08 | mindjuju | morning gents |
| 15:48.20 | synic | morning |
| 15:48.21 | synic | I mean... |
| 15:48.23 | synic | ~lart mindjuju |
| 15:48.23 | jbot | blasts mindjuju with a huge firehose then strangles mindjuju with it |
| 15:49.10 | mindjuju | ~nosepick synic |
| 15:49.10 | jbot | ACTION plucks synic out of the nose of humanity and flicks him out the window! |
| 15:50.26 | timinator | I'll stick w/ good morning |
| 15:52.50 | synic | wuss |
| 15:54.03 | mindjuju | anybody got something good their listing to? |
| 15:54.21 | mindjuju | DI - Breaks just isn't doing it this morn |
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| 16:10.13 | synic | mindjuju: ravetrax is pretty good this morning. |
| 16:11.44 | synic | http://scfire-dll-aa04.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1999 |
| 16:12.50 | mindjuju | it's barely 9:15a and I already want to give like 3 coworkers the bird, this can't be a good sign for how well the day is going to go |
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| 16:19.00 | synic | mindjuju: dunno if this type of music is your bag, but I totally love it. Ravetrax is my new favorite radio stream. |
| 16:19.54 | mindjuju | ravetrax is totally awesome and it's what is keeping me on this side of sanity right now |
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| 16:20.30 | synic | mindjuju: sounds like you need to set up some covert spitwad ops. Maybe purchase one of those spitwad shooting robots from thinkgeek |
| 16:20.32 | mindjuju | my FREAKIN' padawan keeps putting FREAKIN' symbols in his FREAKIN filenames and it FREAKIN' takes forever to update everywhere and yank the FREAKIN symbols out |
| 16:21.46 | mindjuju | does mac throw an error if you try to put a symbol in a filename? |
| 16:22.18 | SunSparc | Depends on the symbol, but from what I have found, they are more forgiving than windows. |
| 16:23.43 | mindjuju | yeah, windows allows every symbol on the keyboard except a handful -- i'm trying to get to where our filenames are universally acceptable with all OS |
| 16:24.22 | mindjuju | ravetrax is sounding pretty good |
| 16:25.40 | mindjuju | DI is decent, but after a couple of weeks, the music gets stale as they play in cycles, then they switch and the techno is fresh again |
| 16:28.15 | synic | wow, this track is pretty awesome, heh |
| 16:28.24 | synic | I like 'em 'cause it's not just one style (breaks, trance, whatever) |
| 16:28.30 | SunSparc | Yeah, cool stuff |
| 16:28.31 | synic | they just play whatever mixes are good, any style |
| 16:29.07 | SunSparc | Thanks for the link |
| 16:45.11 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
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| 16:47.35 | fungus | ~macnewbold |
| 16:47.36 | jbot | rumour has it, macnewbold is unavailable |
| 16:47.55 | fungus | jbot, macnewbold is also cookie monster |
| 16:47.56 | jbot | ACTION wallops is also cookie monster with a flip-flop |
| 16:50.45 | macnewbold | ~brownie |
| 16:50.46 | jbot | ACTION gives macnewbold a double-chocolate-chip brownie. A corner piece, 'cause the crust is the best part! mmmmm. |
| 16:50.54 | macnewbold | ~cake |
| 16:50.55 | jbot | the cake is a lie! |
| 16:50.58 | mindjuju | fungus, they changed jbot so he doesn't program the same way |
| 16:51.02 | mindjuju | ~macnewbold |
| 16:51.03 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, macnewbold is unavailable |
| 16:51.06 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:51.21 | timinator | LOL |
| 16:51.27 | timinator | that one's funny |
| 16:51.29 | mindjuju | jbot: macnewbold is also the cookie monster |
| 16:51.30 | jbot | ACTION wallops is also the cookie monster with a flip-flop |
| 16:51.40 | mindjuju | jbot macnewbold is also the cookie monster |
| 16:51.41 | jbot | ACTION wallops is also the cookie monster with a flip-flop |
| 16:51.53 | mindjuju | i forget how the syntax is now |
| 16:52.03 | mindjuju | macnewbold is also the cookie monster, jbot |
| 16:52.10 | fungus | ~literal macnewbold |
| 16:52.11 | jbot | "macnewbold" is "unavailable" |
| 16:52.35 | mindjuju | jbot, no macnewbold is the cookie monster |
| 16:52.35 | jbot | mindjuju: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 16:52.42 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 16:52.45 | mindjuju | hehe |
| 16:52.58 | mindjuju | ~mindjuju |
| 16:52.59 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness |
| 16:53.49 | timinator | I'll take sweat sexy hawtness for $200, Alex |
| 16:54.53 | mindjuju | too funny |
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| 16:58.10 | PoeticIntensity | mornin'. |
| 16:59.40 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: ping |
| 17:00.03 | PoeticIntensity | ~monday herlo |
| 17:00.16 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: morning |
| 17:01.11 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: thought I'd catch you this morning and point you to the intro music we're currently doing, but we can't use... |
| 17:01.39 | herlo | http://stream.utosf.org:81/utosf/2007/python-20071108.ogg |
| 17:01.48 | herlo | just listen to the first 1:00 or so... |
| 17:02.09 | PoeticIntensity | k |
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| 17:11.36 | beandog | Ive got a headache. |
| 17:12.05 | beandog | I think Ive got the flu |
| 17:13.14 | PoeticIntensity | huh....? wha....? |
| 17:13.39 | PoeticIntensity | although I've been playing *waaaay* too much Enemy Territory : Quake Wars lately. |
| 17:16.23 | beandog | are you starting to see the game when you close your eyes? |
| 17:16.28 | beandog | thats how I know when Ive been playing a game too much |
| 17:20.51 | unum | I've had that with civ and simcity |
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| 17:48.54 | fungus | http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2007/11/12/exclusive-quinto-as-young-spock/ |
| 17:49.55 | mgeary | hah |
| 17:50.03 | mgeary | hey fungus, pm-ing you... |
| 17:58.43 | PoeticIntensity | herlo, just listened to the music.... |
| 17:59.03 | PoeticIntensity | I could probably come up with something equivalent. |
| 18:03.55 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: its underworld |
| 18:04.02 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: and thank you |
| 18:10.33 | mindjuju | synic, this ravetrax is still good, i'm liking this a lot |
| 18:15.57 | mgeary | hey folks, can you help me triangulate a client-reported issue? Can you go to: http://pwr.net/_PWRCharityFoundation/CharityFoundation.aspx?page=3 and click on the big blue image? |
| 18:16.31 | mgeary | ...then click on a few of the "pods" and tell me if the video loads/plays at all |
| 18:16.36 | PoeticIntensity | opens a new window for me. |
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| 18:17.03 | mgeary | ah, i think i may have found the issue. On that landing page, they're loading a 23 meg video file. The videos in the popup are competing with that bandwidth |
| 18:17.06 | PoeticIntensity | I get audio, but not video |
| 18:17.39 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 18:17.43 | PoeticIntensity | video works fine in another one. |
| 18:17.52 | PoeticIntensity | (Vogelvang Family) |
| 18:18.01 | cycokilr | both i've tried worked fine for me.. |
| 18:18.27 | PoeticIntensity | me too. |
| 18:19.56 | mgeary | yeah, i got no video on the first one i tried, but then it worked later |
| 18:20.02 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: which one gave you no video? |
| 18:20.18 | PoeticIntensity | ergh..... just closed the window. |
| 18:20.24 | mgeary | no prob. |
| 18:20.26 | PoeticIntensity | two of em' worked... |
| 18:20.41 | PoeticIntensity | one of em' gave audio with just a white space in the video portion of the page. |
| 18:20.49 | mgeary | i'm betting dollars to donuts it's a bandwidth issue. |
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| 18:21.06 | mgeary | if they take out that 23 meg video on the home page, i'll bet it'll work as expected |
| 18:21.10 | mgeary | that's going to be my recommendation |
| 18:22.38 | cycokilr | wow, why on earth is is 23 megs? |
| 18:22.44 | cycokilr | is it like 3 hours long? |
| 18:23.28 | mindjuju | 23mb for vid? right now we are keeping to ~1.5mb / minute video |
| 18:23.28 | mgeary | no idea. we didn't handle that |
| 18:23.47 | mindjuju | it's hard though to balance everything quality / filesize |
| 18:24.13 | mindjuju | course, i'm getting ready to mandate flash 9 |
| 18:24.23 | mindjuju | get some of that h.264 compression goodness |
| 18:25.15 | orsonj | go for it. |
| 18:25.30 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:25.55 | mindjuju | i love it when i give out edicts ... Thus sayeth Mindjuju! Flash 9 or no videos for you! |
| 18:26.06 | cycokilr | yeah, so i didn't have any issues because of my flash blocker.. it wasn't trying to load the 23 meg one in the background.. makes sense.. |
| 18:26.30 | orsonj | later |
| 18:26.42 | mindjuju | good luck orsonj |
| 18:27.36 | mgeary | ...but now can't remember hardly a bit of it |
| 18:31.59 | mindjuju | mgeary, doesn't flash stream at 10fps or something? |
| 18:32.38 | mgeary | what do you mean by that? |
| 18:32.49 | mgeary | FLVs download as fast as your pipe and the serving machine allow |
| 18:33.03 | mgeary | and they playback fps tries to be whatever the FLV is set to |
| 18:33.13 | mgeary | and it will drop frames if i it needs to |
| 18:33.20 | mindjuju | sorry, i worded that poorly. I meant that it seems like there was a cap on the frames per second that flv liked |
| 18:35.14 | mgeary | hmm. i'm not aware of any magic fps that makes FLVs work better, though it may well exist. I try to use 15fps for computer-generated web video, and ~20-24 fps for "real" video |
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| 19:28.31 | wps | any The Features fans? |
| 19:28.34 | wps | this song rocks |
| 19:29.07 | mgeary | ??!! |
| 19:29.12 | mgeary | he's awesome |
| 19:29.14 | mgeary | Ultravox? |
| 19:29.24 | mindjuju | yeah, who is midge? |
| 19:29.41 | mindjuju | mgeary, does midge scratch or mix |
| 19:29.48 | mgeary | uh, no |
| 19:29.54 | mgeary | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midge_Ure |
| 19:30.06 | mindjuju | i wonder if ole' midge does a decent breakbeats set |
| 19:30.08 | mgeary | he's on of the pioneers of New Wave |
| 19:30.15 | mgeary | uh, scratch that "on" |
| 19:30.21 | mgeary | s/on/one |
| 19:30.46 | wps | hmm… :) |
| 19:30.48 | mgeary | if you like Peter Gabriel, you'll probably like Midge Ure |
| 19:30.49 | wps | not my kind of music |
| 19:30.53 | mgeary | possibly so |
| 19:31.04 | wps | good to hear something new though |
| 19:31.10 | wps | this is where it's at: |
| 19:31.18 | mgeary | heh |
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| 19:34.31 | timinator | anyone here know anything about a company called FlashPoint? |
| 19:36.30 | mindjuju | sounds awful familiar, something to do with online video content if i recall |
| 19:36.38 | mindjuju | i think i heard a podcast by a guy from there |
| 19:39.56 | timinator | right on |
| 19:43.53 | mgeary | hey, isn't Xmission a Utopia provider? |
| 19:44.23 | burnin | mgeary, yes |
| 19:44.42 | mgeary | so, if the Utopia infrastructure has now reached our office, we can contact them... |
| 19:45.10 | burnin | nice |
| 19:45.20 | mgeary | but our IP addys are already with Xmission, so i'd just as soon not change providers... |
| 19:45.26 | mindjuju | lucky dog |
| 19:45.33 | burnin | mgeary, I think your set |
| 19:45.43 | mgeary | i don't think the fiber is really here yet |
| 19:46.13 | burnin | http://xmission.com/utopia/index.html |
| 19:47.38 | timinator | <chant> fiber fiber fiber fiber </chant> |
| 19:48.13 | burnin | and we ain't talkin' Kellogs bran flakes. |
| 19:50.01 | timinator | LOL nope.... |
| 19:50.43 | mgeary | ugh. Veracity |
| 19:55.15 | unum | we have fiber through xmission |
| 19:55.19 | unum | it's nice |
| 19:55.32 | unum | I wish I could get it to my condo |
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| 21:06.00 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 21:06.49 | bradym | ~jquery++ |
| 21:12.08 | JacobKerr | Hey I have a connection class that I would like to use another class I am building, is there a beter way to use that class with out having to use extends? |
| 21:12.25 | JacobKerr | use in another class* |
| 21:18.56 | JacobKerr | Can I make one file that holds all of my classes and allows each and every one of them to talk to each other without having to use extends etc? |
| 21:18.57 | mgeary | JacobKerr: not sure what you mean... |
| 21:19.18 | mgeary | extends is only for if you want to override/append to existing functionality |
| 21:19.21 | bradym | JacobKerr: create a variable in class b that is an instance of class a |
| 21:19.30 | mgeary | if you want to reuse a class, just include it and instantiate it |
| 21:19.30 | bradym | var $connection = New Connection(); |
| 21:19.42 | mgeary | however, i am a strong supporter of the "one class per file" model |
| 21:19.55 | JacobKerr | ok so I can include another class in my class sweet! |
| 21:19.57 | JacobKerr | perfect. |
| 21:20.22 | JacobKerr | yeah so am I..\ |
| 21:20.33 | JacobKerr | I like to keep it organized but I am not sure how to tie them together |
| 21:21.57 | mindjuju | chuck norris supports a presidential candidate? ad has awesome chuck facts! |
| 21:21.58 | JacobKerr | just to keep it even more oragnized is there one file I can include all of the classes I need for my application and make an object for each one that my classes can access... |
| 21:21.59 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYv2YW6azE |
| 21:23.58 | mindjuju | ~quote goog |
| 21:25.55 | mindjuju | wow, that's a 100pt drop in 6days |
| 21:27.33 | bradym | JacobKerr: that sounds more confusing than organized to me.. i must not be following you ;) |
| 21:33.54 | JacobKerr | Yeah you're prob right. |
| 21:36.34 | JacobKerr | so I can just do: include("class.mysql-db.php"); var $mysql_db = new mysql_db(); at the top of my class np.. |
| 21:36.44 | mgeary | __autoload |
| 21:40.25 | bradym | yeah, definitely use autoload: http://us.php.net/__autoload |
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| 21:41.16 | JacobKerr | Yeah but I am not runnig 5 :(\ |
| 21:42.31 | bradym | then yeah, you'll have to include each file manually |
| 21:43.23 | mgeary | ooch |
| 21:43.31 | mgeary | Classes + PHP4 == paaaaiiiiinful |
| 21:43.39 | mgeary | at least, as compared to PHP5 |
| 21:43.55 | JacobKerr | Yeah, but no pain no gain right? LOL I will learn allot the hard way hopefully.. |
| 21:44.01 | mgeary | or a substantial fee is charged |
| 21:44.19 | mgeary | JacobKerr: not really, since you'll be learning stuff that you wouldn't have had to learn with PHP5 |
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| 22:05.22 | timinator | anyone use Joomla? |
| 22:05.42 | bradym | i used mambo at my last job.. |
| 22:05.42 | timinator | present or past tense? |
| 22:06.07 | timinator | s/tense?/tense./ |
| 22:06.30 | bradym | we ended up moving to a university wide CMS instead of upgrading to joomla |
| 22:24.31 | JacobKerr | Hey guys if I want to set my connection ID in one class and access the conID that's saved in that class in another class how would I go about doing that? |
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| 22:29.29 | JacobKerr | I am just going to include all of my classes on one page and make an instance of each one and see if I can access those instances in each class. |
| 22:37.32 | bradym | JacobKerr: just build a function in your connection class to get the connection id... then from your other class call that function using the local object you've already setup |
| 22:37.48 | bradym | to *return* the function class.. not just get.. |
| 22:37.55 | JacobKerr | and return the id |
| 22:38.03 | bradym | yeah |
| 22:38.22 | bradym | that's what i meant |
| 22:38.31 | JacobKerr | K.. |
| 22:39.15 | JacobKerr | I was wanting to open one connection and access that connection at anytime from any of my classes, is that possible? |
| 22:39.57 | bradym | sure, create it in a file that is included in every class definition. what are you connecting to? |
| 22:40.14 | JacobKerr | mySQL database |
| 22:40.58 | bradym | is there a compelling reason you need to reuse the same connection every time? |
| 22:41.17 | JacobKerr | so if I inlcude it will it still be holding that saved data? The conID etc so I just have to set it once.. |
| 22:42.31 | JacobKerr | No not realy, I would just like to know how to do it. |
| 22:43.00 | bradym | http://us3.php.net/mysql_pconnect |
| 22:43.30 | JacobKerr | Yeah a persistent connect.. |
| 22:43.34 | bradym | be sure to read this too: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/features.persistent-connections.php |
| 22:44.39 | bradym | basically, unless you have a specific reason for using persistent connections and understand the caveats/risks it's better to use regular connections |
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| 22:58.59 | timinator | Anyone use heavy Flash/PHP connectivity? What do you use to pass data back and forth... XML? |
| 23:00.06 | mgeary | timinator: AMFPHP is pretty cool |
| 23:00.08 | wps | gas |
| 23:00.23 | wps | I'll be here all week |
| 23:00.29 | timinator | ty mgeary |
| 23:00.30 | mgeary | with your gas? |
| 23:00.41 | wps | with the comedic relief |
| 23:00.45 | wps | try the veal |
| 23:00.56 | timinator | wps: you having flatulence issues? |
| 23:00.58 | wps | sorry… I'll go back to work |
| 23:02.13 | mindjuju | wps, wasn't that Mike Myers from Shrek? "try the veal" |
| 23:02.18 | wps | yeah |
| 23:02.25 | wps | and "i'll be here all week" |
| 23:02.30 | mindjuju | :) sorry wasn't there to back ya up on that movie quote |
| 23:05.55 | orsonj | so, is burnin an evening guy? |
| 23:08.26 | JacobKerr | One more question: Say i make and instance of class A and class B on my page can I access the instance of Class A from Class B? So can I set a var in Class A and access that var from Class B since I made an instance of both on my page? |
| 23:14.45 | JacobKerr | LOL, haha what I have been wanting to do is so simple I just save the conID to the class and access it from the class only and that's how I keep my connection open and only have to set it once.. Thank you guys for your help, I can not believe I was stuck on that simple thing for so long. I think I just have a bad case of the Mondays.. |
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| 23:29.25 | mindjuju | man, if there was ever a time to own a bike, it is now |
| 23:29.54 | mgeary_ | you mean with gas being 3.18 a gallon? |
| 23:30.26 | mindjuju | yeah, was just reading an article saying it's going to be $3.50 for sure, maybe 4, then it shows the price to fill up some of the bigger cars |
| 23:30.46 | mgeary_ | well yeah, if it's over $3 in November, just guess what it's going to be by next Spring Break |
| 23:31.22 | mindjuju | article says that the F250 super duty cotst $133 to fill up right now |
| 23:31.32 | mindjuju | mine is $50 |
| 23:31.42 | mindjuju | i need to get a smaller car |
| 23:32.14 | JacobKerr | if I make an instance of a class on a page is that page then the parent of that class, so could I access any other instances via parent::anotherinstance->var or something :) |
| 23:32.49 | mgeary_ | no |
| 23:32.57 | JacobKerr | dang. |
| 23:34.40 | mgeary_ | what do you want to do? |
| 23:36.37 | JacobKerr | I would love to be able to make 3 instances of 3 dif. classes and access those instances from within each class. |
| 23:38.57 | JacobKerr | in this cart I work on there's a var name $DB_site and it's accessed in almost all of the classes and is set as global on each function it's used in but in each class there was never an instance made as if they are accessing an instance outside of the class how they do it I do not know and it's drving me nutz.. |
| 23:39.01 | JacobKerr | it's php 4 to.. |
| 23:39.20 | JacobKerr | but the var holds an object... |
| 23:39.22 | bradym | i wish gas was $3.18 here.. |
| 23:39.55 | bradym | $3.35 is the cheapest i can find, avg is $3.50 or so |
| 23:40.06 | JacobKerr | so $DB_site->query etc. etc. |
| 23:40.51 | bradym | JacobKerr: just create an object in each class that represents the others... |
| 23:41.04 | JacobKerr | k. |
| 23:44.35 | bradym | JacobKerr: http://pastebin.com/d64a8884e |
| 23:45.55 | JacobKerr | Thanx. |
| 23:46.25 | JacobKerr | I was wanting to put all of my classes in their own file though. |
| 23:46.34 | bradym | yeah, you can |
| 23:46.43 | bradym | i just put them together like that to show what i was talking about |
| 23:46.51 | bradym | you'll just have to add include statements |
| 23:48.01 | JacobKerr | k. |
| 23:49.24 | bradym | http://pastebin.com/d4aa344ac |
| 23:49.24 | JacobKerr | each time I make an instance or include then it's a new object so the object would not hold any data right? |
| 23:50.23 | bradym | yep |
| 23:50.27 | JacobKerr | I should just make a config file :) |
| 23:50.29 | JacobKerr | LOL.. |
| 23:50.38 | bradym | yep, that's what i was about to say :) |