| 00:00.57 | mgeary | hahaha |
| 00:02.28 | timinator | dang, that's a nice mix too |
| 00:03.17 | thebigdog | wps you might want to look at using expect too |
| 00:03.25 | thebigdog | that is nice when dealing with other programs |
| 00:03.46 | wps | expect? what's that? |
| 00:05.23 | thebigdog | part of tk language |
| 00:05.42 | dataw0lf | it's a tk library that facilitates putting dynamic input into input driven programs |
| 00:05.53 | dataw0lf | pyexpect + cisco++ |
| 00:05.57 | thebigdog | http://expect.nist.gov/ |
| 00:06.27 | thebigdog | expect is awesome when automating programs that need user input |
| 00:06.29 | thebigdog | yeah pyexpect rocks |
| 00:06.42 | dataw0lf | Tcl rather, not Tk. |
| 00:07.27 | timinator | gotta roll... later guys |
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| 00:24.16 | thebigdog | wps you dont need to worry about your svn version number either |
| 00:44.57 | mgeary | later all |
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| 01:34.23 | Jacob | Hey guys can you have both Windows and Linux on a PC? |
| 01:35.10 | Jacob | I want to start learning Shell Commands etc. so I can communicate with servers on Unix |
| 01:35.53 | mindjuju | Linux i know you can, not sure about Unix, but i would think you could |
| 01:36.02 | mindjuju | though i understand you get major issues if windows is Vista |
| 01:36.45 | Jacob | I have xp. |
| 01:36.58 | Jacob | so can I learn the shell commands in linux? |
| 01:37.13 | Jacob | I have never used linux and as a developer I think that's a big prob. |
| 01:37.49 | mindjuju | i know there is bash on linux, but as to if it is the same as on unix, i'm not sure |
| 01:37.55 | mindjuju | ~APB thebigdog |
| 01:38.05 | jbot | ACTION calls Leland to find thebigdog |
| 01:38.07 | Jacob | What's the recomended flavor of linux? |
| 01:38.43 | thebigdog | Jacob, what are you wanting to do |
| 01:38.47 | mindjuju | really depends on what you are trying to do. for example, macnewbold recommends FreeBSD for internet facing servers |
| 01:38.56 | mindjuju | on security reasons |
| 01:39.02 | mindjuju | i like ubuntu for ease of use |
| 01:39.08 | Jacob | Well I need to get telnet down so I can cumminicate with my servers at rackspace.. |
| 01:39.27 | mindjuju | well, you don't want to use telnet |
| 01:39.27 | thebigdog | Jacob, are you using telnet now? |
| 01:39.35 | thebigdog | you want ssh |
| 01:39.46 | Jacob | Not sure. |
| 01:39.54 | Jacob | does xchat use telnet? |
| 01:39.59 | thebigdog | no |
| 01:40.01 | Jacob | LOL |
| 01:40.02 | thebigdog | it uses irc |
| 01:40.17 | thebigdog | internet relay chat |
| 01:40.19 | Jacob | Oh yeah that's right.. |
| 01:40.26 | Jacob | someone told me that b4 |
| 01:40.31 | thebigdog | i did |
| 01:40.37 | Jacob | OHHHHH.. |
| 01:40.46 | thebigdog | are you wanting to have a linux and windows box together? |
| 01:40.56 | thebigdog | what are you using now for your os? |
| 01:41.23 | tierra | You could install Cygwin on Windows, but it's just best to jump right in |
| 01:41.26 | Jacob | We have a team that handels all of our hosting stuff but I would like to start getting familiar with that type of stuff I guess the question is where do I start? |
| 01:41.41 | thebigdog | tierra, has a great suggestion |
| 01:41.50 | thebigdog | i have to use windows at my work here |
| 01:41.57 | thebigdog | so i use cygwin all the time |
| 01:42.06 | tierra | ditto |
| 01:42.08 | thebigdog | you could use vmware |
| 01:42.09 | Jacob | cool.. |
| 01:42.17 | thebigdog | and have a full install of linux on your windows box |
| 01:42.19 | tierra | well, Windows/Mac at work, Linux at home |
| 01:42.26 | thebigdog | but that is cumbersome |
| 01:42.27 | Jacob | cool. |
| 01:42.33 | Jacob | i will get vmware |
| 01:43.03 | thebigdog | but i would recommend cygwin if it is a work computer |
| 01:43.09 | thebigdog | vmware is resource hungry |
| 01:43.21 | thebigdog | and can be a beast to configure and run |
| 01:43.41 | Jacob | k, then i will start with cygwin. |
| 01:43.50 | thebigdog | if your servers are running x then you can use cygwin-x to get the graphical from the server |
| 01:43.54 | thebigdog | which is nice |
| 01:44.03 | Jacob | and work on getting my extra comp fully config with linux |
| 01:44.27 | thebigdog | if you are new to linux ubuntu is a great distro to start with |
| 01:44.29 | thebigdog | or fedora |
| 01:44.39 | Jacob | k, thanx |
| 01:44.53 | thebigdog | im a gentoo man...if you really want to learn about linux...gentoo install will get you really started |
| 01:44.59 | thebigdog | but will take you time |
| 01:45.12 | thebigdog | iu learned tons on a stage 1 install |
| 01:45.21 | thebigdog | took me about 2 weeks...but i got it |
| 01:45.24 | thebigdog | ;) |
| 01:45.27 | Jacob | sweet. |
| 01:46.52 | thebigdog | those are just my opinions |
| 01:47.41 | Jacob | i will def. use them :) |
| 01:47.57 | thebigdog | there might be a better distro for ya |
| 03:21.29 | orsonj | well, so far (with <1% of the votes) it looks like a landslide against ref 1. |
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| 04:53.42 | orsonj | ok, now with 40% it looks the same. |
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| 15:47.31 | timinator | morning guys |
| 15:47.38 | Utah_Dave | morning, timinator |
| 15:47.41 | thebigdog | morning timinator |
| 15:48.09 | thebigdog | yesterday was a good day @ work |
| 15:48.14 | thebigdog | i wonder what today will bring |
| 15:48.35 | thebigdog | seeing i only got 3 hours of sleep last night |
| 15:48.41 | herlo | thebigdog: welcome to the club |
| 15:48.57 | thebigdog | bragging a** club |
| 15:49.00 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 15:49.05 | thebigdog | dragging* |
| 15:49.06 | mindjuju | morning gents |
| 15:49.23 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 15:49.50 | thebigdog | i trouble shooted pgsql all yesterday |
| 15:49.54 | thebigdog | that was exciting |
| 15:50.26 | thebigdog | too much wow after work though |
| 15:50.29 | thebigdog | it was great |
| 15:50.30 | mindjuju | man, 4 hrs sleep, that sux for you guys. i went home early to vote and spend a nice evening with my wife so went to bed @ 10:30p woke up about an hour ago |
| 15:51.34 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:51.48 | timinator | 10pm - 7am here |
| 15:51.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:51.54 | thebigdog | i feel like i have a hangover without the drinkin |
| 15:52.00 | mindjuju | ^5 timinator |
| 15:52.09 | timinator | ^5 mindjuju |
| 15:52.32 | mindjuju | usually i'm with you guys and the couple hours of sleep, but meh, had to do my civic duty |
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| 16:15.57 | Utah_Dave | I found a great page discussion sorting arrays of arrays |
| 16:15.59 | Utah_Dave | http://www.the-art-of-web.com/php/sortarray/ |
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| 16:32.12 | mgeary | morning |
| 16:33.30 | orsonj | morning |
| 16:34.38 | mgeary | man. $7 million ended up being spent on the whole Voucher/No Voucher issue. sheesh. |
| 16:35.12 | thebigdog | what a waste of money |
| 16:35.24 | thebigdog | that could have went to the schools |
| 16:35.27 | mgeary | seriously |
| 16:36.06 | mgeary | though i'm keeping some of the mailer propaganda as souvenirs |
| 16:36.29 | fungus | it makes you wonder where that money came from, and what were the real motives of those people. |
| 16:36.41 | mgeary | did you guys see the one about "you can tell a lot about an issue by who supports and opposes it"? Had a list of people/organizaitons that were for and against the vouchers |
| 16:37.05 | mgeary | stopped *just* short of saying that Jesus was for and Hitler was against |
| 16:37.19 | mgeary | was funny |
| 16:37.51 | mgeary | anyway, here we are, November already, and i haven't even thought about Christmas shopping |
| 16:38.40 | unum | most of the anti voucher money came from the nea |
| 16:39.24 | unum | I have had a hard time finding out where the pro-voucher money came from for this part of the campaign |
| 16:39.30 | unum | a lot came from that overstack guy |
| 16:39.41 | unum | some came from an anonymous source |
| 16:40.06 | mgeary | yeah, the Overstock guy gave 80%+ percent of the Pro $$ |
| 16:41.52 | mgeary | apparently he gave $2.7 mil of the overall $3.8 mil in the Pro campaign |
| 16:42.09 | mgeary | NEA gave $3.2 mil for the Anti |
| 16:42.55 | mgeary | so, has anyone here ever done a Home Swap? |
| 16:43.25 | herlo | mgeary: nope |
| 16:43.52 | mgeary | herlo: for investment? why a 2nd home? |
| 16:44.14 | herlo | 2nd home as in I don't currenlty have one |
| 16:44.27 | herlo | but I already bought one before so its *not* my first home |
| 16:44.40 | herlo | mgeary: not sure how else to phrase that |
| 16:44.41 | herlo | sorry |
| 16:44.50 | mgeary | ah |
| 16:45.10 | mgeary | i'm thinking this kind of thing: http://www.homeexchange.com/ |
| 16:45.39 | mgeary | there are a lot of people in the Caribbean, Australia, and Europe who are interested in Ski vacations in Utah |
| 16:45.55 | mgeary | i live 20 minutes from Sundance, and 40 from Park City |
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| 16:46.18 | mgeary | last year we rented an apartment in Germany for 5 weeks |
| 16:46.28 | herlo | mgeary: yeah, I'll live literally 15 minutes from all of the local resorts |
| 16:46.41 | herlo | 25 from park city and about 40 from ogden |
| 16:46.47 | mgeary | it was awesome, but was also ~$1800-- far cheaper than a hotel, but lots more than free... |
| 16:47.10 | mgeary | and looking at the homes of people who want to come to Utah...whew, nice houses |
| 16:55.29 | herlo | mgeary: that sounds pretty cool |
| 16:55.55 | mgeary | yeah, though with the dollar being so $@#$%@ weak, i think we're confined to the US for the next while |
| 16:56.31 | mgeary | yeah, i'd love to buy an apartment in Germany and have an agency manage it, rent it out when i'm not there |
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| 16:57.22 | herlo | mgeary: can you get here - http://tinyurl.com/2rjfyp |
| 16:57.30 | mgeary | yep |
| 16:57.39 | mgeary | that's what you're buying? |
| 16:57.43 | herlo | yup |
| 16:57.49 | herlo | made an offer yesterday |
| 16:57.50 | mgeary | looks great |
| 16:58.02 | herlo | I love it. I'm thinking of getting similar furniture too |
| 16:58.15 | mgeary | you're single, right? your ex and kids are in CA? |
| 16:58.42 | mgeary | looks like a nice place. where is it? |
| 16:58.46 | mgeary | ah |
| 16:58.48 | mgeary | Murray, i see |
| 16:59.18 | mgeary | yeah, you're right off 215, close to the canyons. nice |
| 16:59.39 | mgeary | a lot of home exchanger seem to be looking for places like that |
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| 17:37.54 | herlo | jsmith: ping |
| 17:38.41 | jsmith | herlo: pong |
| 17:39.24 | herlo | jsmith: #utah |
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| 18:10.43 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 18:11.06 | mindjuju | just got into office, what up? |
| 18:14.20 | herlo | mindjuju: wanna do lunch at rodizio? |
| 18:14.39 | mindjuju | yeah i saw |
| 18:14.54 | mindjuju | i don't think i can make it today though |
| 18:15.02 | mgeary | that's not the Rodizio in Orem, is it? |
| 18:15.10 | mindjuju | who all is talkin' about going? |
| 18:19.21 | herlo | so far, a few of us, around 6-8 so far |
| 18:19.36 | herlo | me, Heartsbane, cyclone, thaddeusq, and a few others |
| 18:20.06 | herlo | mgeary: no, there's not Rodizio in Orem. Tucano's is in Provo, maybe that's what you mean |
| 18:20.24 | mgeary | ah, yeah. Rodizio became CPK in Orem |
| 18:20.25 | mindjuju | ah Tucano's |
| 18:20.28 | mgeary | Tucanos++ |
| 18:20.40 | mindjuju | ^5 mgeary |
| 18:20.49 | herlo | mgeary: rodizio rocks |
| 18:20.59 | mgeary | i found the meat too fatty when i went |
| 18:21.14 | herlo | mgeary: I've been to the original in Denver, long before Tucanos came along |
| 18:21.29 | mgeary | and meat came around about half as often as screwy all-vegetable platters |
| 18:21.37 | herlo | the SL one is because the owner, who is my old Bishop's son, is Mormon |
| 18:27.25 | herlo | mindjuju: you gotta come |
| 18:28.31 | mindjuju | this afternoon? We've got our dev team from Florida in office right now. I could *possibly* go tonight, but have to be in office while they are here |
| 18:29.03 | mindjuju | that scheming for Tucano's was wishful thinking for maybe next weekend |
| 18:29.39 | Utah_Dave | herlo: where is the Rodizio's you guys are going to? |
| 18:30.45 | herlo | Utah_Dave: three's only one in Utah |
| 18:30.48 | herlo | trolley square |
| 18:32.04 | Utah_Dave | Dang, I don't think I can make it that far today |
| 18:32.10 | Utah_Dave | sounds like fun, though |
| 18:32.18 | mgeary | hey, does anyone here use abstract classes much? I use inheritance, but i don't generally bother making my generic superclasses abstract. Wondering if there's a compelling reason to... |
| 18:34.42 | synic | I don't see much use for them in a dynamically typed language, except for giving future developers a map to follow |
| 18:35.23 | synic | or yourself a map to follow for later. |
| 18:38.53 | mgeary | yeah |
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| 18:48.28 | josephscott2 | what's the topic for next weeks meeting? |
| 18:49.43 | mindjuju | josephscott2 - Building Rich Internet Applications with PHP, REST, and ExtJs |
| 18:49.50 | mindjuju | thx for reminding me to update the site |
| 18:49.52 | josephscott2 | cool |
| 18:50.04 | mindjuju | i took a sneak peak at ExtJS |
| 18:50.10 | mindjuju | it's actually looking pretty good |
| 18:50.10 | josephscott2 | ExtJs is slick |
| 18:50.19 | wps | who's presenting? |
| 18:50.28 | mindjuju | Alvaro Carrasco |
| 18:50.30 | wps | (I'll update the calendar) |
| 18:50.31 | timinator | that sounds cool mindjuju, are we streaming this meeting again? |
| 18:50.41 | mindjuju | stream yes |
| 18:50.51 | timinator | are there mp3s for the previous meetings? |
| 18:50.53 | mindjuju | i'll see if i can't get the slide deck early |
| 18:51.27 | mindjuju | timinator, there are, i have all edited including last one of tierra, just need to post them |
| 18:51.48 | wps | done: http://uphpu.org/events/ |
| 18:52.25 | mindjuju | i know i'm a strong Dojo advacate, but this ExtJs is hawt enough to make me want to change directions |
| 18:52.44 | mindjuju | documentation from initial glance seems good and the apps, are piping hot fast |
| 18:53.07 | wps | what is it? |
| 18:53.17 | wps | and what is REST? |
| 18:53.21 | mindjuju | it's an AJAX framework |
| 18:53.51 | mindjuju | PHP REST SQL is a class used to open a HTTP REST interface to a MySQL database using PHP and a HTTP server. Using standard HTTP requests, the data in a database can be created, retrieved, modified and deleted. |
| 18:54.08 | mindjuju | oops! sorry hang on was trying to get you an official def |
| 18:55.54 | timinator | mindjuju: you need server space? |
| 18:56.13 | mindjuju | i've only used SOAP so not well informed on REST, but wiki has an article on it WPS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REST |
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| 18:57.37 | wps | thanks |
| 18:58.49 | dataw0lf | REST is NOT an Ajax framework |
| 18:58.50 | dataw0lf | per se |
| 18:59.09 | dataw0lf | REST is a way of using GET, POST, and other HTTP methods as the way they're intended |
| 18:59.16 | dataw0lf | So, if you had a file dosomething.php |
| 18:59.24 | dataw0lf | if you GET'ed it, it would retrieve information |
| 18:59.37 | dataw0lf | if you POSTed, it would create |
| 18:59.39 | dataw0lf | etc |
| 18:59.55 | wps | interesting |
| 18:59.55 | dataw0lf | so instead of having dosomething_retrieve.php |
| 19:00.01 | dataw0lf | and dosomething_create.php |
| 19:00.10 | dataw0lf | you use the same url but rely on HTTP methods to interact with data. |
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| 19:12.40 | dataw0lf | I've actually written a REST handler for Django. REST is pretty interesting, but your code can get decidedly more complex if you try to do complex operations via HTTP, due to REST's strict nature. |
| 19:13.03 | josephscott2 | and hope that your fancy enterprise firewall doesn't block PUT and DELETE verbs |
| 19:13.30 | josephscott2 | the atompub folks are discovering that the hard way |
| 19:13.48 | dataw0lf | josephscott2: Yea, that can be a problem too. |
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| 21:05.05 | timinator | mindjuju: ping |
| 21:05.55 | mindjuju | pong |
| 21:09.35 | synic | macnewbol1: were you saying you were getting 40 million pageviews a day? |
| 21:15.15 | synic | ok, here's what stats.xmission.com says. I don't think it looks like 2/3rds (that's what I heard from my boss) |
| 21:15.16 | macnewbold | I'm not sure it's that high, synic, but lemme check |
| 21:15.19 | synic | (In) 1719.0095 GB 81.86% (Out) 260.1347 GB 12.39% |
| 21:15.26 | synic | for our 4 week average |
| 21:15.27 | macnewbold | what time frame is that for? |
| 21:15.28 | macnewbold | ah |
| 21:15.33 | macnewbold | that's a whole lot |
| 21:15.37 | macnewbold | 1.7TB/month |
| 21:15.58 | synic | brb |
| 21:16.01 | macnewbold | k |
| 21:17.56 | macnewbold | it looks like it was 20 million pages per month, about 800K-1.2M pages on a normal weekday |
| 21:18.16 | macnewbold | that's on one site, we host a bunch more, but that's the biggest one on our hosting at the moment |
| 21:18.42 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 21:18.49 | mindjuju | what kind of server do you have the site on? |
| 21:25.59 | synic | that is pretty awesome |
| 21:26.18 | synic | macnewbold: am I allowed to ask what site it is? |
| 21:26.25 | synic | or was |
| 21:30.26 | josephscott2 | good thing I read through all of that first, when I read 40 million page views per day my curiosity meter went crazy high :-) |
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| 21:36.35 | tierra | hehe |
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| 21:37.33 | mindjuju | so did we find out what site was getting all the hits? I had to reboot box real fast |
| 21:37.38 | mgeary | nope |
| 21:37.44 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 21:38.07 | beandog | one meeeeeelion dollars |
| 21:38.28 | mindjuju | hey beandog! Zip it! |
| 21:38.32 | mindjuju | zzz! |
| 21:38.46 | beandog | I got a whole bag of shh in here just for you |
| 21:38.53 | mindjuju | heh, love that movie |
| 21:40.42 | josephscott2 | so macnewbold what's the site that gets that much traffic? |
| 21:40.51 | josephscott2 | if it is ok to tell |
| 21:41.11 | mindjuju | you can <whisper>something</whisper> if you like |
| 21:42.05 | josephscott2 | if you are into stats we post ours at http://wordpress.com/stats/ |
| 21:43.45 | mgeary | josephscott2: are you affliated with wordpress? |
| 21:43.59 | josephscott2 | mgeary: yes, I work for automattic |
| 21:44.22 | josephscott2 | that's the name of the company that runs wordpress.com |
| 21:44.26 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:44.35 | josephscott2 | http://automattic.com/ |
| 21:45.25 | josephscott2 | nope, we do it all the time :-) |
| 21:45.31 | mgeary | josephscott2: that's not a local company is it? |
| 21:45.52 | josephscott2 | no, officially based out of SF, but everyone works from home |
| 21:46.15 | timinator | </shameless plug> |
| 21:46.29 | mgeary | ....or significant use of objects/consolidated logic |
| 21:46.55 | timinator | ya.... I don't like digging into the code either |
| 21:47.45 | josephscott2 | http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2005/06/06/you-dont-have-to-be-pretty-to-be-successful/ |
| 21:47.56 | mgeary | i also found it very interesting that (at least the multi-user version of) WP takes the approach of creating hundreds (or more) mysql tables. i don't question their doing this, because i know they've got heaps of experience, but i found it unexpected |
| 21:48.01 | josephscott2 | it's a few years old now, but still holds true I think |
| 21:48.20 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc (n=sparky@66.7.114.125) |
| 21:48.59 | josephscott2 | mgeary: I'd have gone with monolithic tables I think, but it was done more for ease and compatibility than for performance I think |
| 21:49.12 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:50.42 | josephscott2 | mgeary: is this you? http://www.geary.com/ |
| 21:50.51 | mgeary | nah, it's my evil namesake |
| 21:51.21 | mgeary | i'm the 4th listing under "New Listings" on that page, though they aren't *new* listings |
| 21:51.26 | orsonj | don't know how to get wireless working, but my spare usb wifi adapter works fine. |
| 21:51.45 | mgeary | man, that's old |
| 21:52.39 | josephscott2 | ah, this one? http://www.geary.com/Michael_Geary_-_Multimedia_Developer |
| 21:52.42 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:53.03 | mgeary | that info is ~8 years old |
| 21:53.33 | dataw0lf | timinator: pfft. |
| 21:53.37 | josephscott2 | haha |
| 21:53.45 | dataw0lf | (http://stderr.ws/) |
| 21:53.56 | dataw0lf | </shameful plug> |
| 21:54.37 | dataw0lf | I just blog about code so I don't forget it habitually. |
| 21:54.51 | timinator | dataw0lf: I like your blog... have it in my Reader.... but you never post!!! |
| 21:54.56 | timinator | :) |
| 21:55.43 | timinator | ???? ....did you make a change recently dataw0lf ? |
| 21:56.10 | timinator | cause my reader hasn't had a new post from you since "functools.partial(), Who knew?" |
| 21:56.26 | timinator | must have an old RSS link |
| 21:56.36 | dataw0lf | timinator: oh. I lost all my posts (or at least most of them) and haven't reimplemented RSS |
| 21:56.46 | dataw0lf | but I probably will tonight. |
| 21:56.46 | timinator | ah |
| 21:57.15 | timinator | I like the new layout |
| 21:57.34 | dataw0lf | Thanks. |
| 21:58.06 | dataw0lf | I didn't know you had a blog. |
| 21:58.14 | timinator | TY |
| 21:58.18 | timinator | :) |
| 21:58.48 | timinator | I just started it because my wife tunes me out after a few seconds of my tech ranting |
| 21:59.20 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 21:59.24 | dataw0lf | your last name is Humphrey, right? |
| 21:59.28 | timinator | yes |
| 21:59.40 | dataw0lf | righto |
| 22:00.14 | synic | wait, where is this blog? |
| 22:00.44 | timinator | http://stderr.ws/ and http://ithinkiknowitall.com/ |
| 22:00.54 | dataw0lf | there we go. |
| 22:01.33 | timinator | this gets crawled by search engines, right? |
| 22:01.34 | timinator | http://stderr.ws/ and http://ithinkiknowitall.com/ |
| 22:01.36 | timinator | http://stderr.ws/ and http://ithinkiknowitall.com/ |
| 22:01.37 | timinator | :) |
| 22:01.57 | dataw0lf | ehl oh ehl |
| 22:02.09 | dataw0lf | I'm not advertising mine as of yet. Haven't finished it all yet. |
| 22:02.26 | timinator | http://stderr.ws/ and http://ithinkiknowitall.com/ |
| 22:02.55 | mgeary | speaking of shameless plugs... |
| 22:03.20 | mgeary | we're having UDFUG early this month-- tomorrow. Anyone interested in interactive 3D in Flash oughta come |
| 22:03.32 | mgeary | http://www.udfug.org/ |
| 22:04.09 | mindjuju | is it in Orem? |
| 22:04.24 | dataw0lf | word, I'll put that right under "hit a thousand lb bear with a baseball bat", and "headline gay pride parade", mgeary. |
| 22:04.27 | mindjuju | or AF |
| 22:04.35 | mgeary | yeah, in Orem |
| 22:04.46 | synic | timinator: ^5 for the big lebowski. |
| 22:04.56 | timinator | ^5 synic |
| 22:05.24 | timinator | You're out of your element Donnie! |
| 22:05.41 | timinator | Look out that window Larry. |
| 22:05.47 | timinator | See what happens!?!? |
| 22:05.54 | mindjuju | mgeary, that looks cool, but don't think i can get down to Orem for it. I've got to stay close to office this week, though i think AF would be ok. Are ya'll recording it? |
| 22:06.08 | dataw0lf | "hey, watch it man, I've got a beverage here..." |
| 22:06.28 | mgeary | mindjuju: don't think so... sorry :/ |
| 22:06.31 | mindjuju | mgeary, that demo is cool |
| 22:06.37 | timinator | LOL dataw0lf |
| 22:06.41 | dataw0lf | "Is this a.... what day is this?" |
| 22:07.15 | timinator | or, El Duderino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing. |
| 22:07.43 | dataw0lf | "Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax..... YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE F***ING PAST!" |
| 22:08.49 | timinator | THIS ISN'T VIETNAM |
| 22:09.16 | timinator | They pee'd on your F***ing rug. |
| 22:09.42 | timinator | that rug really tied the room together |
| 22:09.55 | dataw0lf | What the f*** are you talking about?? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, YOU DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please." |
| 22:10.09 | dataw0lf | "Walter, this isn't a guy who built the f***ing railroads here!" |
| 22:10.21 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:10.26 | mindjuju | sounds like a funny movie |
| 22:10.34 | dataw0lf | it's hilarious. From beginning to end. |
| 22:11.01 | timinator | Ummm.... I'll be right back.... I'm just gonna hit an ATM |
| 22:11.07 | dataw0lf | "NIHILISTS! F*** me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, but at least it's an ethos." |
| 22:11.10 | dataw0lf | timinator: lol |
| 22:11.22 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:11.31 | dataw0lf | "Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain." |
| 22:11.56 | SunSparc | Ah, here it is... |
| 22:12.18 | dataw0lf | did I miss a curse word or something? |
| 22:12.24 | synic | yeah, ya did. |
| 22:12.45 | dataw0lf | "Socialism" ? |
| 22:12.51 | timinator | LMAO |
| 22:12.56 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 22:13.09 | timinator | hahahaha |
| 22:13.31 | timinator | dataw0lf: This is cool: http://stderr.ws/news/detail/4/ |
| 22:13.31 | synic | I'm guessing this isn't the perfect channel to be quoting a movie where every other word is a curse word :P |
| 22:13.49 | timinator | there was a lot of cursing in that movie |
| 22:13.55 | dataw0lf | man was there ever. |
| 22:14.02 | dataw0lf | timinator: thanks. Django really helps with stuff like that. |
| 22:16.34 | dataw0lf | timinator: http://ithinkiknowitall.com/2007/11/unspecified/quote-17/ Nice quote :) |
| 22:16.47 | timinator | TY |
| 22:16.50 | timinator | I like that one |
| 22:19.56 | synic | lol. |
| 22:20.04 | synic | born a poor black child |
| 22:20.14 | synic | lol lol |
| 22:20.35 | mgeary | dataw0lf: did you roll your own blog with django? or are you using a pre-packaged one? |
| 22:23.11 | timinator | LOL synic |
| 22:23.55 | timinator | I was trying to post every day.... that sucks |
| 22:24.29 | timinator | I can't see how one could post daily unless it were their main gig |
| 22:24.42 | timinator | *shrug |
| 22:25.45 | dataw0lf | mgeary: rolled my own. |
| 22:25.51 | mgeary | cool |
| 22:26.05 | dataw0lf | it's still heavily under construction because of ten million other more pressing things I have to write, so don't be too critical ;-) |
| 22:26.12 | mgeary | my own site is on the fritz at the moment. maybe i'll undertake the same, just to get more into django |
| 22:26.23 | mgeary | no, i have no prob with it |
| 22:26.24 | dataw0lf | Word. synic just did, as well. |
| 22:26.35 | dataw0lf | http://vimtips.org <- synic's blog. |
| 22:26.56 | mgeary | nice. |
| 22:27.21 | mgeary | ping mindjuju |
| 22:27.30 | mindjuju | apb mgeary |
| 22:27.42 | mindjuju | i'm here |
| 22:27.55 | mgeary | hey, i've got to configure php on an IIS machine. the default session path is not writeable by the web user |
| 22:28.01 | mgeary | what's a good path to use? |
| 22:28.13 | mgeary | session.save_path |
| 22:32.16 | mgeary | ok. C:\Temp seems to work |
| 22:32.33 | mindjuju | hang on quick sec, over to PM |
| 23:55.13 | mgeary | http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html |
| 23:55.23 | mgeary | ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us,'' says Kring of the love stories starring Claire and Hiro-- yeah, you think? |
| 23:58.45 | beandog | not really |
| 23:58.55 | beandog | I saw one episode, the show looks really dumb. |
| 23:59.03 | beandog | well, shallow. |