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01:00.47mindjuju~stressed
01:00.57jbotLooks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
04:17.29wpsmindjuju: I figured out what happened to the pages on the webiste
04:18.41wpspages in WP are actually just blog posts that are flagged differently and somehow when I upgraded to the most recent version, they lost this status
04:19.27herlowps: pages should now have a different status.  What version did you upgrade from/to ?
04:19.48herlos/status/type/g
04:19.53wpsI think it was 2.0.2 to 2.3.1
04:20.00herlowps: yeah, that makes sense
04:20.22herloso as to get all the benefits...
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15:57.47mindjujugreets gents
15:58.00thebigdogwhat a morning
15:58.08mindjujugood or bad?
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16:03.21thebigdogalways bad
16:03.27thebigdogevery monday is crap here
16:03.46mindjujusorry to hear that, i'm flying the Jolly Roger myself
16:04.46mindjujuit's a skull and crossbones printed on a paper that essentially routes everybody away from my office while i finish out this last bit of code due tonight
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16:42.21PoeticIntensitymornin'.
16:42.43mindjujumorning PI
16:44.50PoeticIntensityif anyone wants a good laugh, this link will be sure to provide
16:44.54PoeticIntensityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
16:45.00PoeticIntensity(Ballmer's "Developers")
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16:46.11mindjujupoor guy has a big sweat issue
16:46.18mindjujui think i'd see a doc about that
16:46.24PoeticIntensityLOL
16:46.34mindjujuor put on Sure, even though, you know it's made for women
16:46.43cole_joplinThat is outstanding.....
16:46.49PoeticIntensityisn't it, though?
16:47.04PoeticIntensity"developers developers developers developers"
16:47.21PoeticIntensitymakes me laugh.... good for the Monday mornings...
16:47.40cole_joplinThe Zeig Hail was pretty funny too
16:48.27cole_joplinI love the sweat coming through the shirt
16:49.37mindjujuPoeticIntensity, have you seen Young Frankenstein with Gene Wilder ?
16:49.45PoeticIntensitybring it on, baby.
16:49.48mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rqXHX3O48
16:52.39macnewbold~rlart
16:52.49jbottakes cole_joplin to the vet for a "special" visit
16:52.49mgearymmmmmmmMMMMMMM
16:53.55PoeticIntensitymindjuju, that was brilliant.
16:54.12mindjujui like yours better
16:54.18mindjujui saw that one a long time ago
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17:00.03cole_joplin****splashes vile of urine sample on jbot
17:00.15dataw0lfmindjuju: so I bought an Xbox 360 over the weekend
17:00.16cole_joplinStay away fiend
17:00.20dataw0lfI now own all three new consoles
17:00.26dataw0lfand I'm playing Halo 3 like it's going out of style.
17:00.34mindjujuxbox, xbox360 and which other?
17:00.46dataw0lfno, I have an xbox360, a wii, and a ps3
17:01.06mindjujucool!
17:01.09dataw0lfwell, the wii is my girlfriend's, but, still, they're all in the same place.
17:01.13mindjujui just have 2 xboxes
17:01.37dataw0lf56" hdtv + halo 3 + headset = dw screaming like a madman at midnight
17:02.29dataw0lffungus: yea, my gf is picking it up today
17:02.34dataw0lfI don't play GH though
17:02.39mindjujuheard guitar hero was awesome
17:02.47fungusIt really is soo much fun.
17:02.52dataw0lfmeh, I'd rather kill people and/or play Madden.
17:03.10dataw0lfspeaking of football, I almost cried yesterday
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17:09.18mindjujudataw0lf, what football game made you cry?  don't usually watch football much, but this clip is awesome  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eeEy060qrA
17:10.53dataw0lfmindjuju: patriots versus colts
17:10.57dataw0lf;'(
17:10.59mgearydataw0lf is referring to Navy vs. Notre Dam
17:11.08mgeary... and i don't even watch sports
17:11.10mindjujudataw0lf did you see my clip
17:11.20mindjuju15 laterals to make a TD
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17:13.07mgearydataw0lf: i'm right, yes?
17:13.16dataw0lfmgeary: huh?  Nah.  Pats versus Colts.
17:13.25mgearyahhh
17:13.36dataw0lfI don't watch much college football beyond the big ten
17:13.44mgearyNavy beat N.D. for the first time in 43 years this weekend
17:14.05dataw0lfI need to find this clip from yesterday
17:15.36dataw0lfhttp://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/11/05/video-lions-dt-shaun-rogers-rumbles-66-yards-makes-selvin-youn/
17:15.39dataw0lfgreatest clip ever
17:15.40dataw0lfehl oh ehl
17:17.44dataw0lfI replayed that on tivo about 300 hundreds laughing wildly
17:19.31PoeticIntensitythat's *awesome*
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17:19.51timinatormorning guys
17:20.05mindjujumorning timinator
17:20.28dataw0lfPoeticIntensity: yea.  that 'little' guy?  200+ lb running back
17:20.41PoeticIntensityright....
17:20.42PoeticIntensityinsane.
17:21.04PoeticIntensitytook him down like he was a mosquito.
17:21.05PoeticIntensity:)
17:22.47dataw0lfthat's gotta be humbling.
17:24.08orsonjI love that lateral video
17:24.24mindjujuyeah, that's awesome
17:25.18orsonjOk, this time Everyone touch the ball. Got it. Go!
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17:55.07thebigdogmgeary...that the heck are you listening too
17:57.59mindjujuThe Police - way good stuff
17:58.07mindjujui'd join ya, but i've got some Paul Van Dyk on
18:12.32mgearyping dataw0lf
18:13.01timinatorPaul Van Dyk++
18:13.28timinatorstreaming baby
18:16.10timinatorLOL
18:16.27timinatorit's a'right
18:17.36mindjujuDI - DJMix is usually pretty good, they've got Morlack on right now
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18:18.24timinatorah... this seems nice
18:25.04herloquick, name 4 people you'd like to see at UTOSC 2008
18:26.47mindjujuSean Connery, Jean Luc Picard, Leonard Nimoy and Optimus Prime
18:26.56beandoglol
18:27.11beandogCapt. Janeway, definately.
18:27.23PoeticIntensityyo
18:27.25mindjujucrusher is hawter
18:27.29beandogLMAO
18:27.43mindjujuafter she got her hair straightened, not that curly perm that made her look 50
18:27.51beandogOh, good
18:27.54herlomindjuju: nice
18:27.56beandogfor a second there I thought you were talking about Wesley
18:28.17mindjujuoh, Wesley should have been pushed out the airlock
18:28.28herloin #ubuntu-utah it was mickey mouse, donald duck, Goofy and Tux
18:28.38herlomindjuju: but will wheaton is a great speaker!
18:29.10mindjujunever heard him speak
18:29.18beandogherlo, how about Daniel Robbins :D
18:29.24beandoghe lives in Arizona
18:29.27beandogso hes close by
18:29.28mindjujuor Tim Robbins
18:29.37herlobeandog: tony robbins?
18:29.51beandogtony?
18:29.53mindjujuYipes!  Tony Robbins!
18:29.58mindjujuyeah, he's motiviational speaker
18:30.07mindjujuhe motivates, even
18:30.23mindjujusells his motivational tapes with the guinsu knives
18:30.36mindjujubuy a knife, get 2 tapes free
18:30.53beandoghmm
18:31.03beandogseems like an odd combo.
18:31.23herlobeandog: I don't know who Daniel Robbins is...
18:31.29beandogGentoo founder
18:31.59fungusherlo: I would say Richard Stallman, but I know pigs would fly first.
18:32.09beandogwhy not?  He loves speaking at conferences
18:32.15beandogas long as you pay for his airfare
18:32.18beandogor vw bus.
18:32.21herlofungus: exactly
18:32.23beandog~mean
18:32.24jbotit has been said that mean is I
18:32.25mindjujustallman, the dude that made up GPL?
18:32.28herlobeandog: that'd be no problem...
18:32.32herlomindjuju: yep
18:32.44mindjujuthat could be cool
18:32.44beandogwhere would we be without GNU?
18:32.46fungusOnly if they say "GNU/Linux"  and talk about "Free Software" as opposed to "Open Source".
18:32.48beandognowheres!
18:33.12beandogI think we should have an omelet bar as well.
18:33.20mindjujudon't forget about Jean Luc
18:33.29mindjujuhe goot
18:33.34beandogwell he said 9, he must have him already
18:33.48beandoglets get Lessig out here :D
18:33.49beandogthat would rawk.
18:34.15mindjujuoh and winnie cooper
18:34.17mindjujushe should come
18:34.23beandogwho is that?
18:34.27beandogthat better not be who I think it is.
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18:34.34mindjujusure is, and she's hawt!
18:34.38herlooh, I can't remember the show
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18:34.50mindjujushe's hawt, don't be jealous
18:34.50beandogGrowing Pains?
18:34.53mindjujupsh
18:34.57mindjujuWonder Years
18:35.03beandogshe's about as hawt as thebigdog
18:35.04herloWonder years, thats it!
18:35.07mindjujushe has Ph.D  in math
18:35.15mindjujuthat makes her ub3r hawt
18:35.16thebigdogi am hot
18:35.24mindjujuor Morgan Webb
18:35.31beandogMorgan Webb?
18:35.32mindjujuMorgan could come for game design theory
18:35.34beandogwho are these people??
18:35.45beandoglets get Ed Greenwood while were at it
18:35.48mindjujuMorgan Webb = hawtest gamer ever
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18:36.32mindjujuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Webb
18:37.11beandogI need a wikipedia entry of my own.
18:37.12beandog:C
18:37.25SunSparcShe is kinda scary looking.
18:37.35beandogwow, shes got an "official myspace page"
18:37.37mindjujuin that pic maybe
18:37.45mindjujubut look in the wiki article at the bottom
18:37.46beandogthat's about as hard to get as a pocket of lint
18:37.49mindjujufor media appearances
18:38.07mindjujuShe was voted "Hottest Woman of the Year" in RTD's 2006 Top 10 countdown
18:38.19mindjujuand she really codes
18:38.35tierrabeandog: careful what you wish for... might get a nice degrading page for yourself
18:38.40tierra:)
18:38.43beandograwk :D
18:40.06tierrahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho <- this is what beandog's page will look like
18:40.07beandog~melvinoops PoeticIntensity
18:40.07jbotACTION reaches into PoeticIntensity's pants to grab the waistband of PoeticIntensity's Fruit of the Looms, but quickly withdraws it's hand, "ugh, hey everyone PoeticIntensity is going commando today!"
18:40.28beandogbuh
18:40.44beandogI think charlie the unicorn deserves a wikipedia page as well.
18:45.28bradymwow, does it really count as a release if you number it "0.0.0pre"?
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18:50.38mindjujuk, i just realized i left brent spiner off the list, i'm scrubbing Optimus Prime for Brent and Sean Connery for Morgan Webb
18:52.28herlomindjuju: go vote: http://utosf.org
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19:26.07beandogHmm
19:26.09beandogI wonder.
19:26.20beandogcould I make a page send a header type of a playlist
19:26.26beandogand that would get my media player to load that
19:26.31beandogor does it need to read an actual file.
19:27.47bradymyou should be able to do that.. that's stuff like mhive (mhive.org) works, sends a m3u playlist to the client that points at the actual mp3 files
19:28.23mindjujubeandog, AFAIK as long as the file extension (.pls or m3u) is associated with the player and MIME application/unknown, i think it'll do it
19:28.35mindjujufile association on client, that is
19:28.41beandogwell thats the thing
19:28.44beandoghmm
19:28.46beandogyah.
19:28.49beandogshould work, in theory.
19:29.27mindjujuhas anybody here tried to affect the Decision Support Objects using PHP ?
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19:33.57mindjujuBueller..., Bueller..., Bueller...
19:35.56bradymsorry mindjuju, never done anything like that
19:36.37timinatorme either mindjuju
19:37.16mindjujuoh well, thx gents
19:38.00bradymthough i've almost managed to beat Image_Graph into submission..
19:40.16beandoghmm
19:40.23beandogwell that worked, but I cant get firefox to automatically open it
19:40.36beandogit keeps popping up the open file with dialog, even though my selection is already checked
19:41.15bradym~lart firefox
19:41.15jbotteaches firefox the basics, including how to RTM
19:42.59mgearyhey, anyone here know anything about drweb?
19:43.11mgeary...on RedHat?
19:43.19mgearyshould i have ~20 processes of it running?
19:43.37herlomgeary: what version or RH?
19:43.43mindjujui think herlo is redhat guru!
19:43.57mgearyumm. ehhh. ahhh. <coughs> FC4
19:44.09mgearylook, it's not *my* server
19:46.40herlomgeary: FC4 is too old.  Tell them to upgrade
19:46.48mgearyexpected that
19:46.52mgearyi have
19:46.55herlomgeary: I actually don't know what drweb is though
19:47.00mgearyantivirus
19:47.03herlomgeary: nobody supports FC4
19:47.14mgearyyeah, tell that to the losers at Aplus.net
19:47.23mgearyit's one of their dedicated servers
19:47.27herlomgeary: let me point you to an article...
19:47.43mgearysure
19:47.57herlohttp://fedora-tutorials.com/2007/06/25/aplusnet-dont-buy-your-domain-from-them/
19:48.16mgearythe domain isn't with them, but they're hosting it
19:48.24herlomgeary: still
19:48.27mgearyyeah
19:48.31herlo:( sorry man
19:48.50mgearyi'm on a first-name basis now with the VP of operations at Aplus.net
19:48.53herloI'd say though that moving to a more stable platfrom (a la CentOS) would be a better choice.
19:49.02mgearyfor all the grief i've given them for the grief they've given me
19:49.10herlomgeary: really?  Will you point my article out to him?
19:49.40herlomgeary: I think they really stink.  I don't need to be called upon to see how my domain registration is doing.
19:49.51mgearyheh
19:50.01mgearynext time i correspond with him, i'll pass along this ink
19:50.03mgeary*link
19:50.07herlomgeary: anyway, is drweb running with postfix or something?
19:50.14herlomgeary: thx
19:50.22mgearyit's a top-level daemon of some sort
19:50.29mgearynot sure if/how it's integrated with anything else
19:50.37herlosure, but why do you need an antivirus checker?
19:50.46mgearybeats me. was there when i got here
19:50.54herlois it a winders box?
19:50.58mgearyi don't have AV running on any of my *nix machines
19:50.59mgearynope
19:51.20herloyeah, I'd say its not necessary unless the mta uses it
19:51.40herlomgeary: are you delivering mail to others?
19:52.05mgearyyeah, apache sends out a few form-driven emails on the machine using localhost
19:54.59herlomgeary: no, not like that
19:55.12herlomgeary: are you accepting mail and delivering it to users on your domain?
20:00.40bradym~lart Pear
20:00.40jbotbrandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Pear!" and lops off Pear's head
20:01.04mindjujupoor pear
20:03.02bradymPear documentation is a joke
20:03.08bradymat least for Image_Graph
20:03.36herlodo people still use Pear?
20:04.06bradymsadly i can't find anything better for creating graphs... this is my first attempt to use anything from pear
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20:07.20mgearyyou're correct about the quality of docs
20:07.34mgearyherlo: no. the MX records for the domain are elsewhere
20:15.35beandogpear rawks
20:15.39beandogwrite some docs yourself :)
20:15.43beandogthat's what OSS is all about
20:17.28unumI use mdb2 from pear
20:19.40bradymbeandog: that would require understanding what the heck is going on, and obviously I don't :)
20:19.49beandogheh
20:22.11mgearybradym: what kind of chart(s) do you want?
20:22.20mgearyi've got some Image_Graph code, i believe
20:24.28unumdo a I get that varialbe if I assign the function in html
20:24.36unumoops wrong line first
20:24.39unumif I assign a function to an event handler using javascript, I get a variable called "this" when the function gets called
20:24.42unumdo a I get that varialbe if I assign the function in html
20:27.19bradymmgeary:  barcharts (both horizontal and vertical) and piecharts to start.. think im gonna go with plotr instead (http://solutoire.com/plotr/) as none of the php solutions i've come across work so easily and look so good
20:27.33mgearyok
20:27.37bradymthanks though :)
20:27.47mgearymy Image_Graph code is all for radar graphs anyway
20:34.34beandogcool
20:34.44beandogContent-disposition: inline; fixed it
20:34.45beandog:D
20:40.47beandogI dont suppose php has a random sort array functions
20:41.51thebigdogyou can randomly grab values from an array
20:42.26beandogyah
20:42.31beandogthat wont really work.
20:42.36beandogI know what I could do.
20:42.37mindjujuhttp://www.php.net/shuffle
20:42.44mindjujubeandog, that shuffles array randomly
20:42.52beandogbuh
20:42.54beandogthanks mindjuju
20:42.59beandogphp++
20:43.18thebigdognot that sets new keys too
20:43.21thebigdognote
20:44.39beandogbueno
20:44.47beandogperfecto
20:45.22mindjujudag, i thought i had Joseph up here.  Must have it in music library at home
20:45.51mindjujui need to setup winamp remote for just this occasion
20:46.34beandogwinamp remote?
20:46.59mindjujuyeah, winamp remote (winamp 5.5) is suppose to let you share music with friends or from home
20:47.05mindjujulike iTunes
20:47.08beandogshare music???
20:47.08mindjujubut sexier
20:47.24beandogjust use icecast or something
20:47.25mindjujuit's sharing with my music album at home
20:47.27beandoggnump3d :D
20:47.29beandogwoo woo
20:47.51mindjujuyeah, but then i'd have to setup a server, and then send in to icecast what songs i wanted queued up
20:48.05mindjujuseems like a lot of overhead when i could just install winamp remote and share the library
20:48.12mindjujuthen i could pull whatever i wanted from home
20:48.55beandogyah
20:49.00beandogyou want gnump3d, or something similar
20:49.01mindjujuhttps://winamp.orb.com/orb/html/login.html
20:49.02beandogcheck eet out
20:49.05beandogwww.gnump3d.org
20:49.23mindjujua little Ren & Stimpy there beandog ?
20:49.53mindjuju"eet"  Seems like Ren always said that or used that form of word
20:49.59mindjujuStimpy!  you idiot!
20:52.00SunSparcStop it Ren!  You're talking Crazy!!
20:52.09beandogI hate that show
20:52.12beandogbuh
20:52.26mindjuju"I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!"
20:52.32SunSparcWhat about "Courage, the Cowerdly Dog"?
20:52.43mindjujui've seen an episode once, pretty funny
20:52.52mindjujubut cant seem to find when it normally plays
20:52.57SunSparcWhat about, "Johnny Bravo"?
20:53.10SunSparcWhat about, "Two Stupid Dogs"?
20:53.16SunSparcWhat about, "CatDog"?
20:53.27mindjujunope, haven't seen any of those
20:53.34SunSparcThey just do not make them like they used to.
20:53.51mgearyDroopy++
20:53.58mindjujucaptin caveman
20:54.04mindjujucaptain even
20:54.09mgearySpaaaaaaace Ghoooooooost
20:54.22mgearyBattle of the Planets
20:54.31mgeary"Transmute!"
20:54.32mindjujuLand of the Lost
20:54.45mgearytotally
20:55.08influx^^'lo
20:55.21mindjujueverybody needs to look at this!  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6LZzVCpYDY
20:55.51influx^^oh man
20:55.57influx^^that show was awesome!
20:56.09mindjuju:)
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20:56.15mgearyvid quality sucks
20:56.24influx^^Wait. This must have been the original or something.
20:56.33influx^^I only remember a remake.
20:56.43beandogwow that is crappy quality
20:56.44mindjujuyeah, this is the one from the 70's
20:56.46mgearyyeah
20:57.04mgearynow THAT's what *I* grew up with
20:57.11mindjujufo sho
20:57.12mgearythat and Gilligan
20:57.23influx^^the skipper too
20:58.19mindjujuoh wait, they remade it?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjcFXpgbceQ
20:58.32influx^^Yeah.
20:58.55influx^^Man. I need to get a rip of the audio.
20:59.37dataw0lfI didn't know Land of the Lost was a remake.
21:00.56SunSparcSeriously, they just don't make them like they used to.
21:01.56mindjujusunsparc, in some cases that is a good thing
21:02.12mgearyjumpsuits++
21:02.25influx^^<3 Vicki
21:02.30SunSparc:)
21:02.31SunSparcMaybe
21:02.37unumok I got another question.  let's say I want last sunday's date in date object form
21:02.39mindjujuhated that show
21:02.42influx^^I will merge with the coming singularity fo sho.
21:02.44unumhow would you that
21:02.47mgearyunum: strtotime
21:02.52mgearyunum: strtotime("last sunday")
21:02.55mgearybadda bing
21:03.03unumthanks I was hoping I could do that
21:03.03mgearyhow cool is that?
21:03.03influx^^big bada boom
21:03.14unumbut was having a hard time finding it in the docs
21:03.44mindjujuinflux^^ - 5th element rox
21:03.49influx^^:D
21:04.26mindjujudid Cindy Brady go Adult?
21:04.32mgearyoh yeah
21:05.00mindjujuwell, Maureen McCormick said she had a "fun visit" with Eve Plumb or what ever her name was
21:05.00unumthere's Punky Brewster porn!!!!
21:05.02mindjujuJan
21:05.11mgearymindjuju: hmm. at least, i'm pretty sure she did
21:05.18mgearywikipedia doesn't say anything about it
21:05.26mgearyaahhh
21:05.33mindjujuMaureen is publishing a book on it, her and Eve
21:05.39mgeary"An urban legend appeared that Susan had become an adult film star. The story may have resulted from a favor Susan did for a friend - she used her audio equipment and instruments to create science fiction-type sound effects ("it wasn't moaning and groaning") for an adult film set in outer space. There is speculation whether the effects were even used, or simply vanished to the porn cutting-room floor. Some also believe this legend was started in part, due to O
21:05.59mgearyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Olsen (Cindy)
21:07.36mindjujumgeary - sadly, i saw Meredith Baxter sell life insurance just a couple of days ago.  talk about shocking
21:08.11mgearyhmm. looks like i may be *completely* misinformed. Wikipedia mentions nothing about Punky's supposed misdeeds either
21:08.15mgearyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soleil_Moon_Frye
21:08.41mgearythough there is this line, "During her late teens and early adult years, Frye made appearances in several low-budget and independent films"
21:08.51mgearythat may be a euphemism
21:08.58mindjujusounds pretty likely
21:19.39influx^^no
21:19.40mindjujuhuh, what?
21:19.41influx^^it can't be
21:19.55mindjujusorry, was snarfing on some pumpkin' pye
21:20.08herlomm, I made pumpkin pie this weekend
21:20.12herlofrom scratch
21:20.17herlosave the crusts
21:20.27mindjujuoh the tune, mgeary.   that's easy
21:20.33mindjujuhang on, let me open up music library
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21:22.05jsmithherlo: Was she worth it?  I mean, I can't see you being all domestic like that without a good excuse...
21:22.49mindjujuherlo, it has to be compare on the theme, or name of band or the like
21:22.56mindjujuso mgeary starts out with morphine, i hit with cocaine
21:23.07mindjujuhe goes Heorin, I trump with white rabbit
21:23.21herlomindjuju: no it doesn't...
21:23.26thebigdoghehe
21:23.30mindjujuthey what you comparing on?
21:23.35mindjujupsh
21:23.43herlomindjuju: whistling in songs
21:24.06mindjujuyeah, don't have much drug music, oh wait!  i gots something that'll win!
21:24.13herlomindjuju: besides heroin isn't as good as meth
21:24.22mindjujuOakie from Muskogee!  -  Meril Haggard
21:24.41mindjujumgeary, do you know that song?
21:24.48mgearynot offhand
21:25.04mindjujuit's an anti-hippy song
21:25.06mindjujusupper funny
21:25.09mindjujuoops, super
21:25.13mindjujuhang on quick sec
21:25.35mindjujuhttp://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/haggard-merle/okie-from-muskogee-497.html
21:25.44mindjujui love that first part, hilarous!
21:25.59mindjujui'm having a friend mix that in to some techno, it'll be awesome
21:28.27mindjujuk, got to get back to coding
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22:45.20mindjuju~lart bill gates and DSO
22:45.20jbotstuffs bill gates and DSO into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it
22:49.04bradymhmmm.... "Problem at line 44 character 6: Expected '}' and instead saw '}'.
22:49.53bradymthat's odd
22:50.29SunSparcWait, the first } looks a bit different than the second }...
22:50.38SunSparcOh, that is just a spot on my monitor.  Sorry
22:50.47bradymlol
22:50.53SunSparc:)
22:51.05SunSparcWhat does the code look like/
22:51.07SunSparc?
22:51.11bradymgot some JS that's working fine in FF but IE chokes on it..
22:51.13bradymone sec
22:52.22bradymhttp://rafb.net/p/UdUOS897.html
22:53.13bradymtrying to use JSLint to help find the problem, but that gave me the unhelpful error above
22:53.22SunSparcextra comma on like 43
22:53.41mindjujuthebigdog , you around?
22:53.45thebigdogy
22:54.00SunSparcbradym:  left: '100px',
22:54.27mindjujudude, i'm goign crazy here.  I've GOT to find a way to affect the "Decision Support Objects" of about 2k documents on a programmatic level
22:54.28bradymthx
22:54.34SunSparc:)
22:54.39mindjujui can't seem to find anything except for going through .net
22:55.14mindjujuon files on windows, there are some extra attribs that can be set besides hidden, read only
22:55.26mindjujuthese attribs exist on docs like word docs, pdfs, xls, etc
22:55.43mindjujuthese attribs are: title, author, body, description, etc, about 10 fields
22:55.46thebigdogk
22:56.10mindjujuhave you seen these or do you know how to affect them on a mass scale ?
22:56.20bradymSunSparc: thanks, that was it - had too many commas... removed several and now its working
22:57.12mindjujuif you are on or near a windows box, all you have to do is right click on the pdf go properties and choose the last tab - summary
22:57.16mindjujuyou'll see them listed there
22:57.47thebigdogyeah i see them
22:57.53mindjujui freakin' can't believe you can affect them on a DOS level
22:58.06thebigdogi would not think you could with dos
22:58.21mgearyUnderworld? that's not the "Underneath the Radar" Underworld, is it?
22:58.29mindjuju~flip bill gates
22:58.30jbotACTION gives bill gates the .|.. ..|.
22:58.39herloUnderworld, as in the movie
22:58.43mgearyah
22:58.47thebigdogso mindjuju what is your question?
22:58.49herlosoundtrack
22:58.54herlo:)
22:59.03mindjujuif you knew of a way besides .net to affect these
22:59.13mgearyherlo: movie? band?
22:59.15mindjujui need to insert data into those fields for more than 2k documents
22:59.42thebigdogmindjuju, i dont know how to do that
22:59.43herlorather, thebigdog breaks the chain
22:59.50thebigdogim not a .net programmer
22:59.52mindjujumore like Herlo loves Kate Beckinsale
22:59.58herlomindjuju: for sure!
23:00.03mindjujuyeah, was thinking there maybe a Java way to do so
23:00.10thebigdogkate is my desktop background
23:00.16mindjujuwell, no worries thebigdog
23:00.18herlothebigdog: you rock!
23:00.27thebigdogi have her on both sides
23:00.34herlothebigdog: nice
23:00.38thebigdogdual monitors...dual kate
23:00.38unumjate from lost?
23:00.44unums/jate/kate
23:00.54herlothebigdog: the better question is: Does she have you?
23:00.58herlounum: no
23:01.01thebigdogkate beckinsale form underworld
23:01.13thebigdogherlo, yes...yes she does...
23:01.26herlounum: http://tinyurl.com/2sut6a
23:01.42herlounum: she's also in Serendipity
23:01.46bradymmindjuju: have you looked at pdftk?
23:01.51herlothebigdog: nice
23:01.52mindjujushe kind of has that trinity look
23:02.01bradymhttp://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/
23:02.01mindjujubradym, i haven't, i'll look now
23:02.01herlomindjuju: true, but hotter
23:02.23bradymif you're looking to do something to a pdf, you can probably do it with pdftk :)
23:02.34herlounum: she was also in "Click" with Adam Sandler
23:02.50mindjujubradym, this looks pretty cool, even if it doesn't affect what I need, i see several functions that i've always wanted
23:02.53herlohttp://imdb.com/name/nm0000295/
23:03.00mgearymindjuju: what are you trying to do to the PDFs?
23:03.16mindjujuchange the summary data on the file
23:03.27mgearyin a file-specific way? or wholesale?
23:03.56mindjujunot sure i understand, but i need to change the file descriptions on about 2000 files
23:04.13mgearychange them all to the same thing? or make each change file-specific?
23:04.13herlomindjuju: are they all different?
23:04.25mindjujuyeah, all different
23:04.39mgearyso where do you get the new data from?
23:04.48mindjujusql query
23:05.09mindjujui shouldn't have a prob with linking, it's the actual accessing the pdf and inscribing the info
23:06.20mgearymindjuju: hmm. i'd probably write a python or php CLI script and use a CLI tool like pdftk to do it
23:06.40mindjujuif pdftk will is the question
23:07.06thebigdogdoesnt php have .net integration yet
23:07.07mgearyupdate_info
23:07.08thebigdogor is that .com
23:07.52mgearyhrm, well update_info assumes you have a file who's metadata you want toclone
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23:08.40bradymnah, it uses an fdf file.. which is easy to generate.. lemme find the function i use for that
23:08.54brastohey guys, have any of you noticed that snopes.com disables highlighting plain text on their site?
23:09.24mindjujuhaven't been there in a while brasto, but it's prolly a little JS
23:09.45brastoI'm sure it is
23:09.58bradymmindjuju: grab the createFDF function from http://koivi.com/fill-pdf-form-fields/
23:10.16brastobut it's really quite annoying... it's a public web page for goodness sake, why disable text highlighting???
23:12.32thebigdogi recommend openoffice
23:13.07orsonjanyone want to check something for me?
23:13.28bradymmindjuju: it's a very different application, but it might be helpful for seeing createFDF in action -- http://utah4h-sand.agsci.usu.edu/~bradym/article/article.phps
23:14.41orsonjset proxy to 129.123.114.116 port 3128 and browse a couple random pages. It should turn all the images upside down.
23:17.06bradymorsonj: "Could not connect to proxy server. Access denied"
23:18.53orsonjok, wasn't sure if it was accessable to the outside world. thanks.
23:19.26thebigdogherlo, you around still?
23:19.29herlohttp://tinyurl.com/337y4n - this is an awesome article
23:20.28mindjujuugh, i hate registration and I've forgotten what my last FAKE login was
23:20.30thebigdogi want a phone that turns into a car
23:20.38thebigdogand i can drive it around...then put it in my pocket
23:20.44mindjujui've prolly made like 10 and each one has a name like UrMama Stinketh
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23:21.07mindjujui hate registering, they've got to know it's fake and  lame
23:21.24herlothebigdog: yup, got em
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23:24.55PoeticIntensitycan you all imagine Trinity played by Kate Beckinsale?
23:25.24thebigdogi would be in heaven
23:25.43thebigdogtrinity is ok
23:25.44PoeticIntensityI thought The Matrix series couldn't have been any better...
23:25.46thebigdogkate is better
23:25.48PoeticIntensityno doubt.
23:27.18PoeticIntensityWhich is better?
23:27.19PoeticIntensityUnderworld or Underword Evolution?
23:27.36thebigdogfirst imho
23:29.01PoeticIntensityI haven't seen the second...
23:29.06PoeticIntensityloved the first.
23:30.09thebigdogsecond one is ok
23:30.42mindjujui think ya'll are just hooked on her English accent.  I think original Trinity best
23:32.08thebigdogno way
23:33.06PoeticIntensityKate would have made em' 1000% better.
23:33.23mindjujupsh
23:33.30PoeticIntensitysorry, dude....
23:33.37PoeticIntensityjust speaking the truth... ;-)
23:33.51mindjujui mean, don't get me wrong, Kate was hawt in Much ado about nothing
23:34.00mindjujubut...
23:35.49thebigdogkate is always hot
23:35.52herlo[White Album] (Disc 1)
23:45.01bradymany luck with pdftk mindjuju?
23:45.51mindjujui decided to walk away from it for a few minutes and relax, was getting too stressed out
23:46.04mindjujui'll be back on it in about 5, just jumped to a side project really fast
23:48.09bradymgood plan, that can be quite helpful
23:48.36PoeticIntensityok...
23:48.42PoeticIntensityI've got a *great* idea for a presentation...
23:48.52PoeticIntensityAnyone here an expert in PHP Sessions?
23:48.54mindjujuusing PHP in a ford mustang?
23:48.57PoeticIntensitylike.... storing them in a DB?
23:48.58PoeticIntensity(hehe)
23:49.12PoeticIntensityknown security issues....
23:49.13PoeticIntensityetc...
23:49.17PoeticIntensityI'd *love* to learn about that crud.
23:50.01PoeticIntensityI have a basic understanding about how they work under PHP's default settings, but I understand there can be *much* more security added by tweaking them, or storing them in a DB (needed for clustering machines, AFAIK).... etc....
23:50.07mindjujuwell i don't know the particulars, but dataw0lf is going to come up to do PHP and Security here in Dec
23:50.19PoeticIntensityoh yeah... and I'm gonna be there.
23:52.55brasto~give thebigdog a phone that turns into a car
23:53.02jbotACTION gives a phone that turns into a car to thebigdog
23:53.29mindjujuheh
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23:57.52thebigdogPoeticIntensity, whatz your question on sessions?
23:58.12PoeticIntensityno specific questions...
23:58.23PoeticIntensityjust thought that'd be an awesome topic for a meeting.
23:58.39PoeticIntensityI've often wondered how secure the default settings are...
23:58.54PoeticIntensityand have got differing opinions regarding that topic from supposed "experts".

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