| 00:00.11 | influx^^ | I can make a conditional loop that has the result of max as its limit? |
| 00:00.19 | bradym | influx^^: can you pastebin your code so i can see what you're trying to do? |
| 00:00.27 | influx^^ | Eh... sure! |
| 00:00.29 | influx^^ | Heh. |
| 00:03.53 | mgeary | later folks |
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| 00:03.59 | influx^^ | http://pastebin.ca/739254 |
| 00:04.40 | influx^^ | I was having trouble with <<<EOF so I reverted to one echo statement. |
| 00:04.44 | influx^^ | -statement |
| 00:04.49 | influx^^ | err |
| 00:04.54 | influx^^ | blah |
| 00:06.08 | influx^^ | omg |
| 00:06.23 | influx^^ | i went to the ip of this ap and found that the ap is unsecured. |
| 00:06.25 | influx^^ | like, the router |
| 00:11.06 | bradym | influx^^: so you've got a list of images and you want to be able to select and delete multiple files at once using this form.. right? |
| 00:11.30 | influx^^ | yes |
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| 00:15.58 | bradym | influx^^: one small change should do it, change your checkbox code to this: http://pastebin.ca/739264 |
| 00:16.30 | bradym | that will give you an array titled $toDelete which you can then loop through to delete the files from your db and filesystem |
| 00:18.10 | influx^^ | ah |
| 00:18.12 | influx^^ | i see |
| 00:18.16 | influx^^ | thank you much. :D |
| 00:18.36 | bradym | np - the key is having the same name for all of your checkboxes and using [] to designate it as an array |
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| 00:33.40 | novus_aevum | I'm trying to download an email attachment that is a .wav file using imap and from what we can tell the code is spot on. Does anybody have experience with this? |
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| 00:36.31 | mindjuju | what is the error you get novus_aevum ? |
| 00:37.58 | novus_aevum | No error, other than the generated .wav file is unrecognized. The players complain about a bad codec, but it's becuase there is something wrong with what iMap is returning as the attachment. |
| 00:38.37 | novus_aevum | We can pop into the account and download the attachment using mail2web.com and the attachments are in good shape so it's an imap thing... |
| 00:41.08 | novus_aevum | The headers are set correctly so that the browsers presents us with a dialog box to save the .wav file and according to everything we've read if there is only 1 attachment you get part 2 of the message using imap_fetchbody() and then imap_base64 the result and echo. Walla, but it's not working out too well... |
| 00:43.09 | novus_aevum | does anybody know the magic formula? |
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| 01:15.05 | mindjuju | well, looks like we might have SOS lined up for Thursday. It'll be good, i think, to have more businesses come and represent |
| 01:18.18 | mindjuju | sup jsmith |
| 01:18.38 | jsmith | Just working on moving some websites to a new server |
| 01:18.44 | jsmith | Nothing exciting |
| 01:19.51 | jsmith | Beautiful, but dry... 33 days without rain |
| 01:20.09 | jsmith | The leaves are starting to change colors, and it's starting to turn off cool at night |
| 01:20.17 | jsmith | (not like it is in Utah, still warmer than that) |
| 01:20.38 | mindjuju | man, i lived right up in the blue ridge parkway |
| 01:22.48 | jsmith | Jerk! |
| 01:23.00 | jsmith | I had to cancel my vacation to Shenandoah last week |
| 01:23.05 | jsmith | (to fly out to Utah, of all places) |
| 01:23.23 | mindjuju | wait, wait, you went to Utah over Shenandoah? |
| 01:23.32 | mindjuju | even if it was work, i'd have feigned sick |
| 01:23.37 | jsmith | Here's the deal |
| 01:23.46 | jsmith | They scheduled a class the week of my vacation |
| 01:23.48 | jsmith | So I said no |
| 01:24.12 | jsmith | On Saturday night, I get a call saying the other instructor can't make it (and may be getting canned) |
| 01:24.22 | mindjuju | yuck |
| 01:24.44 | jsmith | So I had to hop on a plane on Sunday morning... I didn't have much choice |
| 01:24.54 | jsmith | So my vacation is now next week :-) |
| 01:25.19 | mindjuju | hopefully the weather is better then |
| 01:25.53 | mindjuju | i've lived in several very distinct places in the US: Texas, Arkansas, Arizona, now Utah, and Virginia |
| 01:26.02 | mindjuju | and sure, each has their own beauty |
| 01:26.39 | mindjuju | but <looks2seeifOtherTexansAround>Virgnia was the most beautiful</looks2seeifOtherTexansAround> |
| 01:27.02 | jsmith | :-) |
| 01:27.22 | mindjuju | i just got to get my wife there so she can see it and want to stay |
| 01:27.30 | mindjuju | then con my job into letting me telecommute |
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| 02:24.33 | influx^^ | oh my |
| 02:24.41 | influx^^ | so |
| 02:24.58 | influx^^ | i was racking my brains trying to figure out why I couldn't manipulate the post data a script was submitting. |
| 02:25.04 | influx^^ | Guess why that was? |
| 02:25.15 | influx^^ | ... |
| 02:25.47 | mindjuju | :) |
| 02:28.20 | influx^^ | this took two hours to figure out. |
| 02:28.26 | influx^^ | heh |
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| 14:15.21 | timinator | mawnin' |
| 14:24.54 | Utah_Dave | morning |
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| 14:51.12 | Utah_Dave | did you all see that article on Reddit on how to change the text on HP printer screens? |
| 14:51.51 | Utah_Dave | I changed two of our printers to "Insert coin to play" and nobody has noticed :( |
| 14:54.22 | utahcon | lol |
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| 15:02.28 | brasto | wps - how do you make chanserv automatically +v or +o someone when they re-join the channel? |
| 15:03.23 | wps | what is +v and +o? |
| 15:04.44 | brasto | wps - (2007-10-17 08:56:36) mode (+v brasto ) by ChanServ |
| 15:05.00 | brasto | it's putting me into voice mode whenever I come back to #uphpu |
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| 15:05.11 | brasto | which is great, I'm just wondering how to do it |
| 15:05.25 | wps | although you don't need voice mode in here… everyone can speak |
| 15:05.29 | brasto | there, it just did it for fungus: (2007-10-17 09:05:15) mode (+o fungus ) by ChanServ |
| 15:06.13 | brasto | wps - right, I'd just apply the same principle to another channel for op mode |
| 15:06.25 | wps | I'm not aware of a way to make people auto-voice |
| 15:06.29 | wps | there is an auto-op option |
| 15:06.44 | wps | once set, anyone with op status gets auto-op-ted when joining |
| 15:06.45 | jsmith | You can auto-voice people just like you can auto-op them, I think |
| 15:06.59 | brasto | ah... I think voice is an op level |
| 15:07.21 | fungus | But since this channel isn't moderated, is voice really that important? |
| 15:08.51 | brasto | nope, but it makes me feel powerful |
| 15:09.33 | unum | where is the meeting at |
| 15:09.34 | fungus | explicit voice permission as opposed to implicit voice permission? |
| 15:09.35 | brasto | wps - how do you auto op people? /msg chanserv help op didn't help... |
| 15:09.46 | wps | here, this should help you feel powerful: |
| 15:09.47 | wps | http://www.truffleshuffle.co.uk/store/images/wonder_woman_belt_brown.jpg |
| 15:09.47 | brasto | unum: billgood marketing |
| 15:11.32 | unum | brasto: thanks |
| 15:11.50 | brasto | unum: need an address, or is that enough? |
| 15:12.50 | brasto | mindjuju: are there enough people going to the family event? |
| 15:13.23 | brasto | I'd like to go, but there have been no replies to the list for your rsvp request |
| 15:18.49 | unum | brasto: that's enough |
| 15:21.59 | dataw0lf | brasto: you have to be identified |
| 15:22.15 | brasto | dataw0lf I'm identified |
| 15:22.18 | dataw0lf | brasto: and you just set access levels in the channel |
| 15:22.44 | brasto | I have full op access levels on #cwxtesting, but it does not auto op me |
| 15:23.06 | brasto | I have to /msg chanserv op #cwxtesting manually each time I re-join it. |
| 15:24.54 | dataw0lf | set the auto-op access level lower then |
| 15:25.20 | thebigdog | or set your access lvl above 20 |
| 15:25.32 | brasto | my level is 49 on that channel |
| 15:25.45 | brasto | use /msg chanserv set? |
| 15:25.52 | dataw0lf | autoop is off on your channel brast |
| 15:25.58 | herlo | brasto: you have to enable autoop |
| 15:26.16 | dataw0lf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.18 | dataw0lf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.13 | thebigdog | its all about the guitars, drums and brass |
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| 15:47.22 | mgeary | well final-freaking-ly: http://igdmlgd.blogspot.com/2007/10/amazon-one-click-patent-rejected-by-us.html |
| 16:02.58 | timinator | volume++ |
| 16:03.46 | dataw0lf | http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N16467661.htm |
| 16:04.04 | dataw0lf | "Brown said he had no conflict between his faith and military service until after he graduated from West Point in 2004 and began to study scripture and his belief." ehl oh ehl |
| 16:07.01 | brasto | dataw0lf: I'm getting this message when I /msg chanserv level #cwxtesting set autoop 20: |
| 16:07.03 | brasto | (notice) Contact access is required for [LEVEL] |
| 16:07.06 | timinator | and /me facilitates a bible study on Tuesday nights |
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| 16:08.14 | thebigdog | brasto, you have the contact access set up |
| 16:08.45 | brasto | I thought I did, so why's it giving me that error thebigdog |
| 16:08.47 | brasto | ? |
| 16:09.15 | dataw0lf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.05 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: my beliefs are pretty simple... they involve guns and naked women, mostly. |
| 16:10.09 | dataw0lf | and python. |
| 16:10.09 | brasto | I'm identified to nickserv, but now I'm getting this: (notice) You must IDENTIFY as a contact before resetting the contact nickname |
| 16:10.24 | thebigdog | i just was a drink and too see naked woman |
| 16:10.26 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 16:10.36 | timinator | dataw0lf: do those sometimes mix? |
| 16:10.41 | brasto | and chanserv says I'm the contact |
| 16:11.06 | dataw0lf | timinator: they sure do! |
| 16:11.16 | timinator | nice :) |
| 16:11.19 | timinator | LOL |
| 16:11.50 | thebigdog | brasto /msg chanserv help identify |
| 16:11.54 | thebigdog | check out the comments |
| 16:12.37 | thebigdog | you might need to set the channel password |
| 16:23.16 | brasto | thank you thebigdog and dataw0lf |
| 16:24.31 | thebigdog | sweet |
| 16:24.53 | thebigdog | so now you have the channel all setup |
| 16:24.58 | wps | thebigdog: I have a friend that is trying to use Eclipse |
| 16:25.07 | wps | how do you set up a workspace that uses SFTP |
| 16:25.18 | wps | I don't remember and we aren't seeing it |
| 16:25.20 | thebigdog | you need that plusgin |
| 16:25.34 | thebigdog | but it probably does not work with the new version of eclipse |
| 16:25.40 | wps | any particular one you'd recommend? |
| 16:26.15 | thebigdog | http://www.jcraft.com/eclipse-sftp/index.html |
| 16:26.24 | thebigdog | you need to be on eclipse 3.3 i think |
| 16:28.29 | thebigdog | 3.2 here http://eclipse.jcraft.com/3.2/ |
| 16:28.36 | wps | he's using 3.3 |
| 16:28.41 | wps | k… it's downloaded and installed |
| 16:28.47 | thebigdog | nice |
| 16:28.48 | wps | how do you set up the connection to the server? |
| 16:29.26 | thebigdog | create a new project and use it as the connection method |
| 16:30.44 | timinator | a few of my Saturdays have freed up for side projects.... is anyone needing some help? |
| 16:31.26 | thebigdog | wps let me check real fast |
| 16:33.32 | thebigdog | wps he needs to create a basic project |
| 16:33.40 | thebigdog | general or whatever |
| 16:33.50 | thebigdog | then he needs to import it via sftp |
| 16:34.57 | thebigdog | that is where he will setup the connection |
| 16:35.12 | thebigdog | he then needs to use the team sync to do the sync with the server via sftp |
| 16:39.05 | wps | so with this SFTP plugin… does it copy the files to your local and then syncs them? |
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| 16:42.00 | brasto | jbot plusgin is how thebigdog spells plugin |
| 16:42.01 | jbot | okay, brasto |
| 16:42.06 | brasto | ~plusgin |
| 16:42.07 | jbot | i guess plusgin is how thebigdog spells plugin |
| 16:43.24 | brasto | ~recursion |
| 16:43.24 | jbot | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
| 16:43.31 | brasto | that's helpful... |
| 16:43.32 | utahcon | lol |
| 16:47.36 | thebigdog | wps, it creates a local copy of the files that you select for syncing |
| 16:47.44 | wps | yuck |
| 16:47.52 | wps | isn't that contrary to the point of an SFTP account? |
| 16:48.01 | wps | I thought that the point was editing the files right on the server |
| 16:48.06 | thebigdog | that is not yuck...that is smart cause it acts like svn/cvs |
| 16:48.12 | wps | that's why/how I use it with other editors |
| 16:48.33 | timinator | local copy ++ |
| 16:48.34 | wps | not on a production server |
| 16:48.42 | thebigdog | it does it like svn/cvs |
| 16:48.42 | wps | in a dev environment on a dev server |
| 16:48.57 | thebigdog | so you can have a history of changes locally |
| 16:49.08 | thebigdog | which is sweet |
| 16:49.55 | thebigdog | letting you use all the compare functions that eclipse has too |
| 16:50.54 | thebigdog | it also allows you to import changes via sftp that you select...so you dont have to sync all the changes...another killer feature |
| 16:51.45 | wps | this won't be a good solution for our needs ten |
| 16:51.49 | wps | s/ten/then/ |
| 16:52.23 | wps | I guess the only way he will be able to use Eclipse is by mounting a local mount (SMB) of the server and then pointing his Eclipse workspace directory to that mount |
| 16:52.24 | thebigdog | if you want to edit files directly then i would use an editor and not an ide |
| 16:52.48 | wps | why? he wants the features of an IDE |
| 16:53.12 | wps | the only different between how you and timinator work is that his local copy isn't on his workstation… it's on a dev server in the other room (same LAN) |
| 16:53.14 | thebigdog | i would not edit files directly on a server liek that |
| 16:53.20 | wps | it's not a production server |
| 16:53.38 | wps | it's just not the same box he's typing on |
| 16:53.51 | Utah_Dave | wps: try using sshfs, I use that a lot |
| 16:54.04 | thebigdog | yeah i would mount the drive locally then |
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| 16:54.19 | timinator | ya, I follow.... |
| 16:54.21 | thebigdog | i just have a different view of dev servers |
| 16:54.28 | timinator | but I like having the copy on my laptop.... |
| 16:54.33 | timinator | keep it with me 24/7 |
| 16:54.44 | timinator | connect/edit anywhere |
| 16:54.54 | wps | :) |
| 16:54.55 | timinator | edit in my PJs w/o a net connection |
| 16:55.00 | timinator | :) |
| 16:55.08 | timinator | work on the road |
| 16:55.12 | timinator | work at a diner |
| 16:55.27 | timinator | work at starbucks w/o paying for their net connection |
| 16:55.29 | dataw0lf | timinator: were you talking about working on a side project with someone? |
| 16:55.33 | orsonj | not enough power? |
| 16:55.40 | timinator | I like to work when/where I want |
| 16:55.48 | timinator | yes, side project.... |
| 16:55.52 | timinator | I run my own gig |
| 16:55.57 | orsonj | work without needing to be _at_ work |
| 16:56.16 | timinator | orsonj: exactly |
| 16:56.29 | thebigdog | wps how do you guys manage changes |
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| 16:56.40 | timinator | I can leave the office now, go to a diner, and work there for the next few hours |
| 16:56.41 | orsonj | I carry a dev environment on a thumb drive |
| 16:57.30 | wps | we use subversion |
| 16:57.38 | timinator | smaller screen, but I'm mobiloe |
| 16:57.46 | timinator | s/mobiloe/mobile/ |
| 16:57.47 | orsonj | I might get that asus epc thing |
| 16:58.07 | thebigdog | wps how are you doing that with development on a dev box and sftp? |
| 16:58.18 | dataw0lf | timinator: want to learn Python? :) |
| 17:00.07 | wps | I don't like working locally because it's a pain… you have to set up the entire environment for each project… ensuring that you have the right versions of everything (servers, databases, etc). It so much easier to just set all of that up once on one box and then have each developer work on that box… it ensures that they are all working in the same environment. |
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| 17:00.28 | wps | each developer has a unix user account on the dev server… they check out the projects from SVN into their home dir |
| 17:00.36 | timinator | I'd love to learn Python... but I'd rather do side projects in something that I can kick a** at |
| 17:00.38 | timinator | :) |
| 17:00.40 | timinator | so, PHP |
| 17:00.46 | wps | they edit the files via SFTP and then check the changes into the repository |
| 17:00.50 | timinator | until I learn Python enough to kick a** |
| 17:01.05 | orsonj | "don't doubt yourself, the sql works!!!" |
| 17:01.53 | timinator | if you buy from Amazon, and use that link to start your search, I get a kickback :) |
| 17:01.59 | orsonj | ~kickback timinator |
| 17:02.06 | timinator | TY orsonj |
| 17:02.43 | brasto | timinator - what's a kickback? |
| 17:02.57 | brasto | you mean you get a portion of any sales? |
| 17:03.04 | timinator | a small commission... I set it up for my blog |
| 17:03.20 | wps | my friend is asking what the red x on folders in Eclipse means |
| 17:03.21 | brasto | cool |
| 17:04.22 | timinator | I think it means that Eclipse lost the connection w/ the folder..... I've got a "student" that uses Aptana... and that happens whenever he moves the actual folder outside of Aptana |
| 17:05.45 | thebigdog | what type of project is it wps? |
| 17:05.56 | thebigdog | is it a php project? |
| 17:06.01 | wps | website |
| 17:06.06 | timinator | brasto: I was halfway kidding on the Amazon thing.... but if you seriously use it, I'll buy lunch or something :) |
| 17:06.22 | thebigdog | it means and error |
| 17:06.25 | wps | yes, PHP |
| 17:06.27 | thebigdog | not a connection issue |
| 17:06.37 | thebigdog | it might be 2 things |
| 17:06.51 | thebigdog | php error or html error |
| 17:06.55 | wps | I can understand how local would be much better (if not required) for non-web-based apps (such as java), where you have to compile them |
| 17:07.01 | thebigdog | or a sync error |
| 17:07.22 | wps | for web development hough, I definitely prefer not having to have a database and web server all running locally for the project |
| 17:08.13 | thebigdog | but when you work with 90+ developers having 1 dev server will not cut it |
| 17:08.26 | wps | sure, so got a few more |
| 17:08.29 | thebigdog | or having more than a few developers on a box does not work |
| 17:08.41 | wps | it's still easier then requiring them to all have MySQL and apache running on their own machine |
| 17:09.09 | wps | and it's a lot easier for them to work remote as well… you don't have to give public IPs to each of their workstations |
| 17:09.11 | brasto | timinator: I can't afford a mac yet, but I may buy a video card that supports oblivion soon |
| 17:09.25 | thebigdog | imo it depends, becuase if im doing db changes i can do that and have guys writing code to query the db |
| 17:09.49 | thebigdog | wps, why would you need public ip address for workstations |
| 17:09.53 | wps | I've never worked with a team that large, but I couldn't see why one server couldn't handle thirty developers that are just editing scripts/text files and refreshing web pages |
| 17:10.37 | thebigdog | oh i could see it...cause your stuff might depend on other stuff |
| 17:10.50 | thebigdog | and if someone is changing that then your stuff will not function properly |
| 17:11.08 | wps | I guess you wouldn't need a public IP… scratch that… if the developers have VPN then they could get to their workstations remote |
| 17:11.21 | wps | it's still a pain to have to set up apache and mysql on every workstation |
| 17:11.47 | timinator | see... I work alone... my solution of keeping everything local probably wouldn't work in your case anyway wps |
| 17:11.55 | timinator | *shrug |
| 17:12.09 | wps | "I work alone…" |
| 17:12.13 | wps | :) |
| 17:12.15 | timinator | LOL |
| 17:12.22 | wps | sounds like a bounty hunter or something |
| 17:12.28 | timinator | to the tune of George Thoroughgood's |
| 17:12.34 | timinator | "I drink alone" |
| 17:13.04 | timinator | yes, timinator the bounty hunter |
| 17:13.47 | orsonj | well, if it has what you need, apache friends has a nice easy to use package |
| 17:21.09 | brasto | how do you do comments in xml? is it the same as (x)html? <!-- comment --> ? |
| 17:21.57 | utahcon | yes |
| 17:27.20 | brasto | macnewbold: do mac's use ports like freebsd? |
| 17:27.35 | orsonj | "jpegtran -copy none" removes all non image data from a file |
| 17:28.09 | mgeary | brasto: they can |
| 17:28.20 | mgeary | brasto: fink and macports are the two most popular |
| 17:28.40 | brasto | cool. do you mount them to /ports or something? |
| 17:28.52 | mgeary | macports installs to /opt by default |
| 17:28.58 | mgeary | fink goes to /sw |
| 17:29.15 | mgeary | in both cases, i believe you download a traditional installer |
| 17:29.30 | brasto | traditional means rpm? |
| 17:29.43 | brasto | or self extracting bin? |
| 17:30.01 | herlo | http://ablk.com/if.html |
| 17:32.35 | mgeary | brasto: mac installer |
| 17:32.40 | mgeary | GUI interface |
| 17:32.47 | mgeary | you can also do a CLI install, i believe |
| 17:32.52 | mgeary | it's been a while |
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| 17:36.25 | brasto | coo |
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| 17:37.21 | SunSparc | Any Windoze users here? |
| 17:37.30 | SunSparc | mindjuju |
| 17:37.31 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:37.40 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 17:37.59 | SunSparc | Is mIRC still a good IRC program for windows? |
| 17:38.20 | SunSparc | I have a friend who I am trying to convert to using IRC to get help with his PHP. |
| 17:39.17 | utahcon | mIRC works |
| 17:39.28 | SunSparc | Or is there a better IRC program for windows that is perhaps opensource? |
| 17:39.38 | utahcon | I am sure there is |
| 17:39.46 | utahcon | I use pidgin... not really just for IRC, but it does the job |
| 17:40.00 | SunSparc | I have heard of pidgin |
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| 17:40.15 | SunSparc | It has been a while since I have used IRC on Windows. |
| 17:43.53 | dataw0lf | SunSparc: use x-chat |
| 17:44.07 | dataw0lf | mIRC is terrible, it's never been a good IRC app for windows. ;-) |
| 17:44.07 | _psychic_ | SunSparc: use linux |
| 17:44.17 | dataw0lf | oh god, ignore the evangelists. |
| 17:44.23 | beandog | heh |
| 17:44.26 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 17:44.31 | SunSparc | I will stick with Mac. |
| 17:44.35 | beandog | dataw0lf never evangelizes anything |
| 17:44.37 | _psychic_ | someone missed their nap this morning |
| 17:44.40 | dataw0lf | oh god, OS X sucks |
| 17:44.43 | beandog | he'll just beat you senseless if you dont use python |
| 17:44.48 | beandog | or debian |
| 17:44.49 | beandog | ;) |
| 17:44.50 | dataw0lf | this is true |
| 17:45.01 | dataw0lf | no point in convincing you when I can just make fun of you. |
| 17:45.09 | SunSparc | ~OS X++ |
| 17:45.23 | beandog | lol |
| 17:45.26 | SunSparc | ~karma OS X |
| 17:45.26 | jbot | os x has neutral karma |
| 17:45.29 | beandog | or when convicing isnt going to work anyway |
| 17:45.51 | dataw0lf | you can't give OS X karma, it disappears in the gaping black hole that passes as Jobs's heart |
| 17:45.59 | beandog | heh |
| 17:46.03 | mgeary | ~stevejobsify dataw0lf |
| 17:46.03 | jbot | ACTION drags dataw0lf by the scruff of the neck and plants him in front row center of the Moscone Center at the peak of Steve Jobs' keynote address until dataw0lfs eyes glaze over and he calms down |
| 17:46.05 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:46.15 | SunSparc | ~OS X++ |
| 17:46.34 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Good catch. |
| 17:46.59 | _psychic_ | as dross before flame |
| 17:47.16 | SunSparc | So be it... Jedi!!! |
| 17:47.27 | wps | did you guys hear that Apple completely open-sourced their new calendar server? |
| 17:47.36 | SunSparc | What? Really? |
| 17:47.39 | SunSparc | Good for them! |
| 17:47.41 | SunSparc | And for us! |
| 17:47.41 | wps | awesome |
| 17:47.48 | beandog | lets see, thats apple: 1 good, 98,003 evil. |
| 17:47.50 | beandog | ;) |
| 17:48.02 | SunSparc | ~lart beandog |
| 17:48.02 | jbot | slaps a compatible dib on beandog's head |
| 17:49.02 | wps | it uses the standard/open CalDAV protocols |
| 17:49.17 | wps | and Apple is a member of the CalConnect Consortium |
| 17:49.26 | wps | http://www.calconnect.org/ |
| 17:49.31 | wps | http://www.macosforge.org/ |
| 17:49.38 | wps | take that, MS Exchange |
| 17:50.03 | wps | "iCal Server uses open calendaring protocols for integrating with leading calendar programs, including iCal 3 in Leopard, and popular CalDAV clients from Mozilla, Open Source Application Foundation, and others. These open standard protocols include CalDAV — a set of extensions to WebDAV — and interchange formats such as iCalendar, iMIP, and iTIP." |
| 17:50.07 | wps | http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/ical.html |
| 17:51.26 | SunSparc | FreeBSD server |
| 17:51.43 | SunSparc | Although, it does not work exactly like .Mac |
| 17:51.52 | SunSparc | Never got it completely figured out. |
| 17:52.25 | SunSparc | But it mounts and you can drag and drop stuff to it. I would like to get the Cal stuff working too. |
| 17:52.48 | SunSparc | Right now I use Google Calendars to sync my iCal stuff with my wife |
| 17:54.55 | SunSparc | ~blast beandog |
| 17:54.56 | jbot | ACTION pulls her blaster and uses beandog for target practice |
| 17:55.07 | wps | her? |
| 17:55.09 | wps | jbot is a boy |
| 17:55.11 | SunSparc | ~cry |
| 17:55.12 | jbot | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 17:55.28 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:55.44 | wps | who taught him to say that? |
| 17:55.53 | tierra | http://phpfi.com/269571 ... heh |
| 17:55.54 | SunSparc | brasto pointed that out |
| 17:56.40 | wps | jbot, you are not a girl |
| 17:56.40 | jbot | wps: what are you talking about? |
| 17:56.45 | wps | your gender |
| 17:56.52 | SunSparc | jbot, are you a girl? |
| 17:57.08 | SunSparc | jbot, what is your gender? |
| 17:57.08 | jbot | ACTION is your gender to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 17:57.22 | brasto | ~recursion |
| 17:57.23 | jbot | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
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| 17:58.48 | SunSparc | Wow, 35 is the most members I have ever seen on this channel. |
| 18:03.08 | utahcon | #uphpu? ah damn... I knew I was in the wrong place |
| 18:03.49 | wps | Utah_Dave: please watch your language |
| 18:04.01 | brasto | wps: wrong utah person |
| 18:04.11 | wps | ooops :) |
| 18:04.17 | wps | got to watch that auto-complete |
| 18:04.21 | wps | utahcon |
| 18:04.42 | utahcon | sure |
| 18:04.52 | wps | thanks |
| 18:05.27 | synic | Utah_Dave: I'm sure you've done something! |
| 18:05.28 | dataw0lf | Man, I remember the old days, when there was only like ten of us |
| 18:05.31 | dataw0lf | way less OS X users |
| 18:09.01 | influx^^ | ~lart dataw0lf |
| 18:09.01 | jbot | blasts dataw0lf to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 18:12.52 | mindjuju | ~wiki kamehameha |
| 18:13.32 | mindjuju | so i guess the kamehameha wave is the hand salutations the first king did? |
| 18:14.56 | influx^^ | It might be that and a reference to Dragon Ball Z |
| 18:15.49 | mindjuju | hmmm, dragon ball z, heard it was good, but never got around to watching it |
| 18:20.53 | tierra | it's one of a handful of animes I refuse to watch |
| 18:22.05 | tierra | if you're going to watch it, you'll only get anything from it by watching the entire series (I've seen enough series with the exact same style to know how they all go) |
| 18:24.59 | tierra | the original series is 153 episodes and 4 movies based on it, the sequel, Z, has 291 episodes, and 15 movies based on it... |
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| 18:25.22 | tierra | that's way more than I'm willing to sit through from what I've seen of it |
| 18:25.24 | mindjuju | yeah, i've heard others talk about it at different times. it seems like the green dude with the turban was bad, then he was good then he died |
| 18:25.26 | mindjuju | but not really |
| 18:25.47 | mindjuju | i should wiki it and just catch up on all the episodes and find out how it works |
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| 19:57.13 | mindjuju | Pantera = Stryper |
| 19:58.21 | cycokilr | yikes, what? |
| 19:59.03 | mindjuju | you remember the semi-religious metal band stryper from the 80's ... was saying thebigdog 's pantera was really stryper |
| 19:59.18 | thebigdog | heavens no |
| 19:59.44 | thebigdog | pantera was also one of the best concerts i have seen in my life |
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| 20:02.01 | mindjuju | with the exception of "the rose" i don't have a single bette midler song on my computer |
| 20:02.05 | wps | ouch |
| 20:02.22 | thebigdog | i heard infectous mushrooms does a nice remix of wind beneath my wings |
| 20:02.30 | cycokilr | well, i've heard enough.. i'm going to go watch fried green tomatoes while you guys work this out.. |
| 20:02.39 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 20:02.46 | thebigdog | mindjuju, had a role in that movie too |
| 20:03.14 | mindjuju | i can't think of anything fast enough to counter those hits, dude |
| 20:03.17 | cycokilr | of course by fried green tomatoes i mean taxi driver.. |
| 20:03.57 | dataw0lf | anyone played D&D Minis before? |
| 20:04.33 | _psychic_ | I think I did. |
| 20:05.05 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 20:05.10 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: was it any good? I'm a big fan of skirmish war games, and I want a decent introduction for the girlfriend, the setup for warmachine is a bit much |
| 20:05.48 | _psychic_ | I liked it |
| 20:05.54 | mindjuju | k, i'm back, and ready for a fight! |
| 20:06.50 | mindjuju | nothing wrong going around with a mask of thebigdog, is there? |
| 20:07.12 | mgeary | depends, does it have snickerdoodle crumbs all over it? |
| 20:07.15 | thebigdog | only thebigdog can wear that mask |
| 20:07.18 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: word, I'll buy the starter pack tonight then |
| 20:07.28 | _psychic_ | how much is it? |
| 20:07.29 | mindjuju | here is the pic of the mask -- heoscarsite.com/whoswho6/mask2.jpg |
| 20:07.36 | thebigdog | mgeary only the shirt has the crumbs |
| 20:07.49 | mgeary | mindjuju: check that url |
| 20:08.25 | mindjuju | k, here is another http://www.fraterslibertas.com/mask003.jpeg |
| 20:08.51 | thebigdog | hehe..im glad you got my joke |
| 20:09.04 | mindjuju | thebigdog, why don't you be honest and tell everybody when you say you're listening to GWAR, it's really Cher ! |
| 20:09.46 | thebigdog | hehe...cher rocks...i love the beavis and butt head duet with her |
| 20:09.55 | mindjuju | never saw it |
| 20:10.08 | mindjuju | just watched beavis and butthead do america though last night |
| 20:10.15 | thebigdog | that is funny |
| 20:10.35 | thebigdog | i need to rip that cd |
| 20:13.03 | mgeary | hey, has anyone played around with (really) liteweight ways of transferring arrays & objects from one server to another via http? i'm thinking i'll just serialize() the object and pass the text. |
| 20:13.26 | thebigdog | i have used wddx with php |
| 20:13.46 | mgeary | how'd ya like it? |
| 20:14.24 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: I've found that my wife likes D&D as much as I do - its a very girl-friendly game if done right |
| 20:14.59 | thebigdog | mgeary, it is great...i really like it alot...we used it to save files between servers...i have not used it with standard http requests...but that should be easy enough |
| 20:14.59 | SunSparc | Yeah, but your wife also plays video games. |
| 20:15.02 | thebigdog | it is really fast |
| 20:15.11 | mgeary | thebigdog: cool, thanks |
| 20:15.14 | _psychic_ | SunSparc: s/plays/watches/ |
| 20:15.21 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:15.27 | SunSparc | Almost as good |
| 20:15.35 | thebigdog | mgeary, you could use it with php streams and do some pretty neat stuff |
| 20:15.46 | SunSparc | I can't get my wife to come anywhere NEAR a video game. |
| 20:16.40 | mgeary | ditto |
| 20:16.44 | mgeary | prolly just as wel |
| 20:16.45 | mgeary | well |
| 20:16.58 | mgeary | not sure our family can tolerate TWO people wasting time like that ;) |
| 20:18.06 | _psychic_ | d&d is different though |
| 20:18.09 | _psychic_ | its really social |
| 20:18.11 | _psychic_ | and creative |
| 20:20.25 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: yea, I'm sure my girlfriend would dig it, she's a writer. |
| 20:20.44 | _psychic_ | oh yeah |
| 20:20.52 | _psychic_ | It's all about who you are with |
| 20:21.04 | SunSparc | WoW is just like D&D, but on a computer, right? |
| 20:21.24 | thebigdog | no artard |
| 20:21.30 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 20:21.40 | _psychic_ | WoW is like D&D with no imagination and annoying limits |
| 20:21.51 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:21.55 | _psychic_ | and grinding... lots of ...... grinding |
| 20:21.58 | _psychic_ | and grinding |
| 20:22.03 | thebigdog | and more grinding |
| 20:22.07 | thebigdog | and then rep grinding |
| 20:22.11 | _psychic_ | and then you're at level 2 |
| 20:22.12 | thebigdog | and then more rep grinding |
| 20:22.13 | fungus | If you want to talk about grinding, you have to talk about EverQuest |
| 20:22.25 | _psychic_ | D&D is the anti-grind |
| 20:22.34 | fungus | EQ is way worse on the grinding. |
| 20:22.53 | thebigdog | new wow patch will reduce some grinding |
| 20:22.57 | thebigdog | but not much |
| 20:23.16 | fungus | mindjuju: grinding = repetitive, boring killing of lame monsters. |
| 20:23.41 | thebigdog | think of south park wow episode |
| 20:23.45 | thebigdog | killing boars |
| 20:23.48 | thebigdog | that is grinding |
| 20:24.16 | mindjuju | ah |
| 20:24.38 | thebigdog | oh yeah...time for the death metal |
| 20:25.22 | thebigdog | hehe...mgeary cracks me up |
| 20:25.40 | thebigdog | judas priest is not death metal though |
| 20:25.49 | mgeary | hmm. death metal.... |
| 20:26.22 | thebigdog | now if you played the obituary or morbid angel then you might be one up |
| 20:26.22 | mgeary | got it |
| 20:26.42 | mindjuju | i've got Helloween |
| 20:27.49 | thebigdog | not going to happen |
| 20:28.05 | thebigdog | you need some type o negative |
| 20:29.01 | tierra | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12880 <- Dual Xeon 2.4Ghz to 3.2Ghz, 3GB-8GB ram servers for sale on the cheap |
| 20:29.25 | tierra | (used) |
| 20:29.45 | mindjuju | zoinks! thems good prices though |
| 20:30.10 | tierra | yeah, I'd yank one if I had a use for it |
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| 20:52.14 | orsonj | http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23UPHPU&net=freenode |
| 20:53.02 | mindjuju | that cool |
| 20:53.24 | mindjuju | doesn't ubuntu-utah or ubuntu something have like 1000 though? |
| 20:55.57 | thebigdog | ubuntu-utah has about the same |
| 20:58.08 | mindjuju | oh wow -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC7yVGf4-KI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epongalong%2Ecom%2Fbeerblog%2Findex%2Ephp%2Fbest%2Dqvc%2Dbloopers%2Dyoutube%2Dfriday%2Dfive%2F |
| 21:05.24 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 21:05.30 | _psychic_ | short circuit |
| 21:05.37 | mindjuju | totally |
| 21:06.18 | _psychic_ | my car died when I was on my internship |
| 21:06.24 | _psychic_ | at some city offices |
| 21:06.33 | _psychic_ | and the mayor comes out and helps me with a jump |
| 21:06.41 | _psychic_ | except he's a retard and has the cables on wrong |
| 21:06.50 | mindjuju | oh no! |
| 21:06.53 | _psychic_ | things start to sizzle a bit, and I yank em off just in time |
| 21:06.58 | _psychic_ | he tried to play it cool |
| 21:07.05 | _psychic_ | I laughed right in his face |
| 21:07.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 21:08.07 | thebigdog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZhMfzc9RbU&NR=1 |
| 21:08.14 | thebigdog | that guy is funny |
| 21:08.52 | thebigdog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeLg9cKhrIw&mode=related&search= |
| 21:09.22 | mindjuju | you should never buy a ladder called "flex-o-ladder" little giant is one thing, but, flex-o-ladder? |
| 21:09.41 | thebigdog | he did a face plant |
| 21:10.08 | mindjuju | face plant right into the metal of the ladder, that would hurt like crap |
| 21:12.35 | _psychic_ | ooh I hate to watch the sword one |
| 21:13.11 | mindjuju | _psychic_ , it goes by to fast , i couldn't see where he got hit by the sword |
| 21:13.37 | mindjuju | there is one there about a dell and a caller that calls in to say he loves his dell cause it surfs the pron really good |
| 21:13.53 | mindjuju | it doesn't show anything, but is so funny, cause he talks about pron on live tv |
| 21:14.45 | thebigdog | what is the one where it is the tech channel and he breaks some old audio canister thing cause his hands are shaking so hard |
| 21:20.55 | timinator | LOL |
| 21:22.43 | thebigdog | seether's new song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWfP1RqGXyo |
| 21:22.47 | thebigdog | sounds pretty good |
| 21:35.53 | mgeary | anyone want to talk login table theory? |
| 21:36.05 | thebigdog | sure what you got? |
| 21:36.33 | mgeary | okay, so for larger web apps with different user types i generally create a "logins" table and then one or more detail tables |
| 21:36.43 | mgeary | so i might have a "logins" table, a "customers" table, and a "staff" table |
| 21:36.44 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:36.53 | mgeary | so i only have to auth against one table |
| 21:37.05 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:37.08 | mgeary | in the login table, i'll have a group_id and each customer or staff will belong to a group |
| 21:37.25 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:38.07 | mgeary | and i currently store a login_id in the customer and staff tables |
| 21:38.20 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:39.32 | mgeary | one hassle for this arrangement is that to get a user detail record from a login id, i need to do a "select X from <that_groups_detail_table> where login_id = '$this->id'" |
| 21:39.51 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:39.55 | mgeary | e.g. i'm dependent on other tables |
| 21:40.04 | thebigdog | that is normalization |
| 21:40.06 | thebigdog | that is god |
| 21:40.07 | thebigdog | good |
| 21:40.11 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:40.18 | mgeary | that's why i did it that way |
| 21:40.27 | mgeary | i'm considering revising my schema so everything i need is more in my logins table |
| 21:40.48 | thebigdog | what db you using? |
| 21:40.51 | mgeary | mysql |
| 21:40.56 | thebigdog | 5+? |
| 21:40.59 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:41.05 | thebigdog | why not use views then |
| 21:41.09 | mgeary | hmm |
| 21:41.10 | thebigdog | and then have only 1 query |
| 21:41.15 | mgeary | hmmmmmmm |
| 21:41.18 | thebigdog | or you could use a stored proc |
| 21:41.22 | mgeary | i like that |
| 21:41.27 | thebigdog | i do that alot |
| 21:41.31 | mgeary | never used views, but this seems like a great excuse |
| 21:41.40 | thebigdog | i create views that are very similar to my domain objects |
| 21:41.47 | mgeary | exactly |
| 21:41.53 | mgeary | then use one ActiveRecord object, rather than two |
| 21:41.57 | mgeary | oooohhhhhhh |
| 21:42.01 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 21:42.04 | mgeary | i think i'm sold |
| 21:42.29 | thebigdog | you just need to make sure you tune mysql for your queries and such...it could be taxing if done poorly |
| 21:43.07 | thebigdog | i tie many of my views to the login/role table...so that data is only visible by the right people |
| 21:45.07 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: make sure the columns you join on to create the view are indexed |
| 21:45.11 | mgeary | well yeah |
| 21:45.15 | mgeary | that's a given ;) |
| 21:45.16 | Utah_Dave | and don't do any calculations |
| 21:45.24 | mgeary | shouldn't need to |
| 21:45.28 | Utah_Dave | I made that mistake and the views were really slow |
| 21:48.34 | wps | if I have a working copy (a checkout) of an SVN repository, and the repository changes locations (moved to a different server), can I simply go in somewhere and change a local config file to point at the new server instead of having to delete the repository and recheckout? |
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| 21:50.18 | thebigdog | wps, yes you would have to edit all the svn files |
| 21:50.30 | thebigdog | each directory has one |
| 21:50.37 | wps | that's what I was thinking… I'd have to edit all .svn/entries files |
| 21:50.53 | thebigdog | yeah...however, if you used eclipse it would do it all for ya |
| 21:50.55 | thebigdog | ;) |
| 21:59.55 | thebigdog | wps sorry i was still thinking cvs...svn switch is what you want |
| 22:00.11 | wps | svn switch? |
| 22:00.25 | thebigdog | yep |
| 22:00.53 | wps | awesome |
| 22:00.54 | wps | thanks |
| 22:00.58 | wps | I see it in the help doc |
| 22:01.09 | thebigdog | svn switch --reloate FROM TO [PATH...] |
| 22:01.16 | thebigdog | relocate |
| 22:03.17 | mgeary | awesome |
| 22:03.42 | _psychic_ | does svn switch work across repos? |
| 22:03.44 | mgeary | thebigdog: views are created, and i just have my Customer and Staff ActiveRecord classes inherit from the Login class, and it automatically picks up the extra fields |
| 22:03.51 | mgeary | man that was easy |
| 22:04.00 | mgeary | *and the authentication routines |
| 22:04.10 | thebigdog | _psychic_, it should if the dir struct is the same |
| 22:04.24 | _psychic_ | maybe it works with later versions of SVN |
| 22:04.28 | thebigdog | mgeary, nice |
| 22:05.00 | wps | I remember reading about a way to send messages to users on the same server via terminal once |
| 22:05.04 | wps | anyone know about that? |
| 22:05.09 | _psychic_ | write |
| 22:05.14 | thebigdog | finger |
| 22:06.06 | thebigdog | hehe...i love saying that..actually finger does not send anything to the user |
| 22:06.15 | _psychic_ | I use who + write |
| 22:06.52 | thebigdog | on windows write is mapped to wordpad |
| 22:06.56 | thebigdog | how funny |
| 22:07.02 | _psychic_ | unix write, silly |
| 22:07.20 | thebigdog | yeah i was wondering about cygwin |
| 22:08.01 | mgeary | wall |
| 22:08.32 | thebigdog | the thing i love about the terminal is when they are editing a file or something it spits it out |
| 22:08.37 | thebigdog | some peps get confused |
| 22:09.55 | mgeary | awww |
| 22:11.01 | thebigdog | i use alt+f4 |
| 22:11.30 | thebigdog | wps if you use terminal communication like that you can run a talk server too |
| 22:11.40 | thebigdog | but they are insecure |
| 22:11.51 | thebigdog | they get too emotional |
| 22:15.06 | dataw0lf | women? |
| 22:15.08 | dataw0lf | oh, nevermind |
| 22:16.19 | mgeary | thebigdog: hmm |
| 22:16.29 | mgeary | well for read purposes this view paradigm works great |
| 22:16.37 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:16.40 | mgeary | but not for updates and inserts |
| 22:16.58 | mgeary | error: "Can not modify more than one base table through a join view" |
| 22:17.02 | thebigdog | nope unless you used a real db and had materialized views |
| 22:17.31 | thebigdog | crud needs to go through the physical model not the logical |
| 22:17.36 | dataw0lf | materialized views++ |
| 22:17.36 | orsonj | well, the name "view" implies a one way association |
| 22:17.42 | mgeary | you mean cud |
| 22:17.47 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: you can do updates and insert on a view in MySQL if you form them right |
| 22:17.47 | mgeary | not crud ;) |
| 22:17.54 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: do tell |
| 22:18.11 | orsonj | ~crud |
| 22:18.12 | jbot | i guess crud is Chalk River UnIdentified Deposits |
| 22:18.18 | orsonj | heh |
| 22:18.31 | dataw0lf | orsonj: create read update delete |
| 22:18.35 | orsonj | yep |
| 22:18.37 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:18.44 | dataw0lf | oh, thought you didn't know what it meant. |
| 22:18.51 | thebigdog | i perfer chud myself |
| 22:18.55 | dataw0lf | you would |
| 22:19.19 | orsonj | jbot, crud is also Create Read Update Delete |
| 22:19.20 | jbot | orsonj: okay |
| 22:19.32 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: it appears that you can only update views if they don't join tables |
| 22:20.21 | Utah_Dave | Looking through the docs just now, |
| 22:20.32 | Utah_Dave | It says you can if you use an inner join |
| 22:20.40 | Utah_Dave | and you only are updating fields from one table |
| 22:20.46 | Utah_Dave | in that query |
| 22:20.57 | mgeary | link? |
| 22:20.57 | Utah_Dave | so I guess it's more limited than I thought |
| 22:21.00 | thebigdog | and the moon is full too...and you have to be a taurus |
| 22:21.04 | mgeary | i'm using an inner join |
| 22:21.10 | Utah_Dave | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/create-view.html |
| 22:21.13 | mgeary | but i am trying to update fields in both tables |
| 22:21.26 | thebigdog | just use the standard updates |
| 22:21.30 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: ehl oh ehl |
| 22:21.34 | mgeary | ~cornnuts synic |
| 22:21.34 | jbot | ACTION sends synic out for CornNuts™ for everyone. "Mmm, extra crunchy!" |
| 22:21.35 | Utah_Dave | search for " It is sometimes possible for a multiple-table view to be updatable" |
| 22:21.37 | dataw0lf | (on moon / taurus comment) |
| 22:21.55 | thebigdog | hahah |
| 22:22.17 | thebigdog | mgeary you could also do a stored proc that takes the data you want to update and updates the tables you need |
| 22:22.24 | Utah_Dave | You can insert as well with the same limitations |
| 22:22.33 | mgeary | yeah..... |
| 22:22.44 | thebigdog | i personally would not insert/update on views |
| 22:22.57 | thebigdog | oracle even has issues with it...so i can only imagine mysql |
| 22:23.54 | cole_joplin | It's those crazy night-time users |
| 22:24.35 | thebigdog | ~tunafart in #uphpu |
| 22:24.36 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to in #uphpu, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 22:29.16 | mindjuju | FINALLY! What i've been looking my whole life! - http://raremonoshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=30 |
| 22:32.31 | fungus | lol, censored USB connector... |
| 22:33.17 | thebigdog | lol the funniest part is cher playing in the background |
| 22:34.19 | thebigdog | hehe and watching the humping dog |
| 22:35.15 | bradym | "feet are cold even in air-conditioned room"? am i missing something here? wouldn't that be normal for your feet to be cold in an air-conditioned room? |
| 22:36.05 | mindjuju | how cool! - http://www.drinkstuff.com/products/product.asp?ID=3458&title=USB+Speed+Typing+Mouse |
| 22:58.13 | mindjuju | yuck! |
| 22:58.19 | mindjuju | wipe up afterwards please |
| 22:58.24 | fungus | http://xkcd.com/330/ |
| 22:58.31 | influx^^ | newest one? |
| 22:58.42 | influx^^ | yes |
| 22:58.55 | fungus | I gotta get that book. |
| 23:01.23 | mgeary | (nonlinearly) |
| 23:01.37 | mgeary | á la python ;) |
| 23:03.34 | thebigdog | python++ |
| 23:04.16 | dataw0lf | python++ |
| 23:08.46 | SunSparc | Later peeps |
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| 23:19.06 | timinator | I'm out too.... later guys |
| 23:19.47 | mindjuju | off with the day crew, on with the night |
| 23:25.05 | mgeary | where's those dang CornNuts™?! |
| 23:26.50 | dataw0lf | you just love doing the trademark thing, don't you? |
| 23:27.29 | mgeary | well hey, i don't want anyone to think i'm infringing... ;) |
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| 23:45.55 | mgeary | oh oh |
| 23:46.31 | fungus | lol, awesome. :) |
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