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| 02:23.14 | mindjuju | undertakingyou, how goes it |
| 02:26.02 | undertakingyou | good, how are you mindjuju? |
| 02:26.21 | mindjuju | re-encoding some vids |
| 02:26.59 | undertakingyou | nice. Have fun at that dinner Saturday? |
| 02:27.12 | mindjuju | yeah, that was a hoot! |
| 02:27.31 | undertakingyou | I sure had fun. |
| 02:27.45 | undertakingyou | So where can I pick up the meeting stream? |
| 02:28.32 | mindjuju | 65.121.75.205, though it doesn't go live until like 3 hours before showtime |
| 02:31.17 | undertakingyou | That is ok. As long as I know where to go. I am really interested in at least listening in for now. |
| 02:31.51 | mindjuju | that's awesome! i'm doing some tweaks to the system to get better performance across the board |
| 02:32.00 | mindjuju | would love to get feedback afterwords, if you don't mind |
| 02:32.16 | undertakingyou | Right on. Happy to help were I can |
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| 14:16.31 | undertakingyou | Morning |
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| 14:30.46 | cole_joplin | undertaking sounds......subversive |
| 14:31.04 | cole_joplin | is that the idea? |
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| 15:15.08 | timinator | mornin' gents |
| 15:15.37 | mindjuju | morning timinator |
| 15:16.20 | timinator | I listened to Paul Van Dyke on my ride to work this morning.... TY mindjuju |
| 15:16.39 | timinator | (I ride a bike.... 4 mi) |
| 15:16.40 | mindjuju | yeah, it's awesome stuff |
| 15:16.44 | timinator | fo sho |
| 15:16.52 | timinator | love it |
| 15:18.05 | _psychic_ | guhmornin uphpu |
| 15:18.22 | timinator | morning _psychic_ |
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| 15:46.51 | thebigdog | what a morning |
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| 15:50.48 | PoeticIntensity | mornin, all. |
| 15:51.24 | thebigdog | morning bro...how was the lunch? |
| 15:51.33 | PoeticIntensity | heh.. it was great! |
| 15:52.25 | PoeticIntensity | darn.... I was gonna say, you could read all about it... |
| 15:52.31 | PoeticIntensity | but my server seems to be down. :-\ |
| 15:53.55 | PoeticIntensity | I'll see what's up with it during lunch. |
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| 15:55.06 | PoeticIntensity | mornin', josephscott |
| 15:55.14 | PoeticIntensity | it was good meetin' ya last Friday.. |
| 15:55.25 | josephscott | hi |
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| 18:13.58 | mgeary | you know, we've got ~200 domains at godaddy, and i have no serious complaints, but i'm really starting to wonder if Bob Parsons is something of a Male Chauvinist Pig... |
| 18:15.40 | cycokilr | nice |
| 18:15.46 | tierra | psh, don't be dissing the marines man! |
| 18:16.45 | tierra | hehe... I wouldn't expect anything less honestly |
| 18:18.02 | tierra | he's in the mass marketing arena now, and that means selling sex |
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| 18:26.10 | Kamehameha | greetings! |
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| 18:27.02 | Kamehameha | got a tricky php question that I don't know is feasible or not.. was hopin' for a little input... |
| 18:28.01 | Kamehameha | I want to write a script that will grab a pdf from a site over which I have no control and email that pdf back to me... |
| 18:28.23 | mgeary | *over which i have no control.... |
| 18:28.29 | mgeary | that's kind of key |
| 18:28.47 | Kamehameha | for example if there was a pdf at cnn.com/new/article.pdf and I want a script that will grab that and attach to email and send to me |
| 18:28.48 | brasto | ~stupify mgeary |
| 18:28.49 | jbot | ACTION borrows Harry Potters wand, waves it in the air, and silently stupifies mgeary. |
| 18:28.57 | wps | do you mind saving the PDF temporarily to the server that the script is running on? |
| 18:29.02 | mgeary | Kamehameha: ahh. that's easy enough |
| 18:29.02 | Kamehameha | not just a link but the actual pdf :) |
| 18:29.19 | Kamehameha | ya that's no problem saving temp wps |
| 18:29.24 | wps | then it's easy |
| 18:29.28 | mgeary | you just need to download the file and mail it |
| 18:29.34 | mgeary | fopen, wget or curl |
| 18:29.38 | wps | wget the PDF to your server and then generate a new email and attach the PDF |
| 18:30.16 | Kamehameha | ah.. so the key then is "wget" eh? |
| 18:30.37 | wps | that or curl |
| 18:30.45 | mgeary | ...or fopen |
| 18:30.47 | mgeary | ;) |
| 18:30.48 | wps | both are utilities for downloading a file via httpd |
| 18:30.52 | wps | s/httpd/http/ |
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| 18:32.37 | timinator | this is cool: "The U.S. military believes it has dealt devastating and perhaps irreversible blows to al-Qaeda in Iraq in recent months, leading some generals to advocate a declaration of victory over the group, which the Bush administration has long described as the most lethal U.S. adversary in Iraq." |
| 18:32.46 | Kamehameha | cool thanks wps, mgeary, jbot... |
| 18:32.46 | timinator | source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/14/AR2007101401245_pf.html |
| 18:33.05 | mgeary | "declare victory and retreat" |
| 18:33.08 | Kamehameha | I'll do a search online for those ... any idea which method will work best? |
| 18:33.22 | wps | for something as simple as this, I'd recommend wget |
| 18:33.23 | mgeary | Kamehameha: wget is the simplest, if you have shell access |
| 18:33.39 | wps | wget http://cnn.com/path/to/file.pdf |
| 18:33.59 | timinator | cnn sucks |
| 18:34.00 | timinator | :) |
| 18:34.30 | PoeticIntensity | Kamehameha, I would recommend wget as well. |
| 18:34.38 | PoeticIntensity | it's probably the simplest of the three. |
| 18:35.03 | Kamehameha | thanks PoeticIntensity, looking for the syntax now... on how to save it locally so I can email it off... |
| 18:35.23 | PoeticIntensity | also... thebigdog .... my server is back up, if you want to take a look at the geek lunch blog post. |
| 18:36.19 | wps | the syntax is (from within the directory that you want it to be downloaded to): |
| 18:36.21 | wps | wget http://cnn.com/path/to/file.pdf |
| 18:36.31 | PoeticIntensity | couldn't be easier. |
| 18:36.32 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 18:36.43 | wps | I love wget |
| 18:36.55 | cycokilr | everyone should |
| 18:37.11 | wps | I use it all the time for videos and things so that I don't have to wait for buffer |
| 18:37.17 | wps | just download it all and then watch it locally |
| 18:37.52 | cycokilr | you use it on winders or just linux wps? |
| 18:40.30 | wps | mac os |
| 18:40.50 | cycokilr | oh yeah, i forgot.. |
| 18:42.13 | Kamehameha | PoeticIntensity, I told Jacob about this chat group and he wants to join too :) |
| 18:44.36 | mgeary | ~wiki Jacob |
| 18:45.06 | dataw0lf | jeepers |
| 18:45.20 | mindjuju | sup dataw0lf |
| 18:45.38 | dataw0lf | morning |
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| 18:51.32 | timinator | sup DW |
| 18:54.14 | dataw0lf | sup |
| 18:57.06 | cycokilr | how you feelin' tough guy? |
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| 18:58.50 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: my hand hurts |
| 18:59.38 | cycokilr | my small knuckle is a little sore.. but barely noticable.. |
| 18:59.48 | cycokilr | that was a pretty square hit too.. |
| 19:00.17 | mgeary | ....? |
| 19:00.40 | brasto | wps - did I answer your MySQL question sufficiently in my email to the list? |
| 19:00.42 | mindjuju | they were prolly playing knuckles |
| 19:00.59 | wps | what wasn't me |
| 19:35.13 | PoeticIntensity | yo, dataw0lf ... did you read my blog post on the geek lunch? |
| 19:35.24 | PoeticIntensity | and Kamehameha .... tell Jacob to get his hiney in here. |
| 19:36.01 | Kamehameha | will do! |
| 19:36.28 | influx^^ | :\ |
| 19:38.00 | Kamehameha | PoeticIntensity, still trying to find the wget stuff... could I just use the php copy function to grab a file and save to my server? |
| 19:38.19 | PoeticIntensity | uhh... the copy function doesn't allow remote URLs, I believe. |
| 19:38.29 | PoeticIntensity | it's only used to copy from within the server itself. |
| 19:42.27 | Kamehameha | makes sense... |
| 19:42.45 | Kamehameha | found some php code online for wget but it just didn't get it :) |
| 19:43.45 | wps | <?php exec('wget http://example.com/file.pdf'); ?> |
| 19:44.58 | unum | I tend to use the curl libraries instead of wget |
| 19:45.43 | unum | speaking of which anyone want a list of utah registerd lobbyist and who they work for? |
| 19:46.10 | dataw0lf | yes plz |
| 19:46.34 | influx^^ | dataw0lf: haaay |
| 19:46.48 | influx^^ | unum: si por favor |
| 19:47.28 | dataw0lf | influx^^: what up |
| 19:47.43 | unum | http://unum5.org/lobbyists.csv |
| 19:47.57 | unum | the formatting is not the best, but if you want I'll share my code |
| 19:48.19 | unum | I need to fix the formatting inorder for it to work for my purposes |
| 19:49.22 | unum | I don't have full addresses for some of them and I haven't checked yet to see if that's an error in my script or if it's missing from the data |
| 19:50.05 | unum | https://secure.utah.gov/lobbyist/lobbysearch <- has much more info |
| 19:57.09 | influx^^ | dataw0lf: not much. How was your stay? |
| 19:58.49 | dataw0lf | influx^^: pretty fun |
| 20:02.39 | PoeticIntensity | how did the LAN party end up? |
| 20:02.44 | PoeticIntensity | and.... I gotta ask... |
| 20:02.46 | PoeticIntensity | who won? ;-) |
| 20:03.12 | influx^^ | Wallhax won. |
| 20:03.25 | mindjuju | i won by default cause dataw0lf didn't show (guess he got scared) |
| 20:05.01 | PoeticIntensity | wha....? |
| 20:05.06 | PoeticIntensity | dataw0lf didn't who? |
| 20:05.07 | PoeticIntensity | show? |
| 20:05.19 | PoeticIntensity | hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............. |
| 20:05.25 | mindjuju | it's ok, he feared me |
| 20:08.35 | dataw0lf | actually, I got really drunk and forgot |
| 20:08.45 | dataw0lf | and played Halo 3 at the place I was drunk at |
| 20:08.55 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:09.00 | PoeticIntensity | awesome! |
| 20:09.27 | mindjuju | that's what i'd say too if i had to meet me in a Halo 2 match |
| 20:09.29 | PoeticIntensity | What did ya think of Halo 3? |
| 20:09.57 | dataw0lf | http://echoradio.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=90652 photo evidence |
| 20:10.03 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: I can't remember. |
| 20:10.17 | PoeticIntensity | .... hehe..... ah, man. |
| 20:10.31 | PoeticIntensity | makes me laugh because I simply can't imagine being drunk. |
| 20:11.09 | PoeticIntensity | must be nice, because lots of people do it.... |
| 20:11.28 | PoeticIntensity | anyway... it was great finally putting a face to the opinions, dataw0lf ... :) |
| 20:13.13 | dataw0lf | yea, 'twas nice to meet you, too. |
| 20:16.12 | beandog | ~monday |
| 20:16.12 | jbot | monday is probably when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 20:16.19 | beandog | hmm |
| 20:16.22 | beandog | today isn't that bad. |
| 20:16.54 | PoeticIntensity | how was your weekend, beandog ? |
| 20:17.52 | beandog | uh |
| 20:17.59 | beandog | I dont remember |
| 20:18.09 | PoeticIntensity | oh |
| 20:18.12 | beandog | pretty good I guess :) |
| 20:18.17 | PoeticIntensity | good. |
| 20:18.20 | beandog | I remember watching a bunch of movies, but I don remember what they were. |
| 20:18.23 | beandog | they must have sucked. |
| 20:18.30 | brasto | wps, didn't you ask this: |
| 20:18.30 | brasto | It appears that you can change a MySQL column's data type with both 'modify' and 'change'. What is the difference between the two? In my notes, I had 'modify' down to use for altering a data type and 'change' for renaming a column. phpMyAdmin used 'change' to change a column's data type though. Are the two synonymous? |
| 20:18.43 | beandog | I finally got vmware + bootp working, woots. |
| 20:18.56 | wps | oh… yes… sorry… I thought you were referring to the MySQL question that come through today |
| 20:18.56 | PoeticIntensity | cool... |
| 20:19.00 | beandog | and its slow as snot. |
| 20:19.07 | PoeticIntensity | not-so-cool... |
| 20:19.10 | brasto | did I answer that question wps? |
| 20:19.29 | wps | I think so |
| 20:19.34 | wps | I haven't had time to digest it all |
| 20:23.58 | brasto | basically, wps, CHANGE can both rename and change column data type. MODIFY is just to change column data type. If you use CHANGE to only change column data type, you must still specify the old and new column name as the same. |
| 20:24.39 | wps | so phpMyAdmin was just be execessive |
| 20:24.53 | brasto | thus CHANGE can be dangerous when manually typing since you might inadvertently change a column name when all you want to do is change the column. |
| 20:25.06 | brasto | phpMyAdmin, it might just be a programming shortcut |
| 20:25.34 | brasto | if they already had code that uses change, they can use the same code and use a variable for both old and new column names |
| 20:25.43 | wps | yeah |
| 20:30.35 | PelaoFeliz | Has anyone used any project management software that they particularly like? |
| 20:31.03 | _psychic_ | we wrote our own |
| 20:31.17 | _psychic_ | project management software is a rather vague term though |
| 20:31.30 | _psychic_ | are you talking gantt and stuff, or estimating, or... ? |
| 20:35.51 | PelaoFeliz | nothing all that fancy -- gantt no necessary, estimating either, really |
| 20:36.19 | PelaoFeliz | just the ability to scope it out, break up a project into tasks, etc. |
| 20:36.47 | PelaoFeliz | like you say -- it's so vague that there are tons of products that approach the problem from all sorts of angles |
| 20:37.21 | PelaoFeliz | I haven't found a good list to do research with, though |
| 20:37.40 | PelaoFeliz | if anyone here has suggestions, I'd look through those first to see if they met our neesd |
| 20:37.43 | PelaoFeliz | needs, even |
| 20:39.36 | brasto | We've had a couple thread discussions on this. Let's see if I can find them. |
| 20:44.41 | mgeary | PelaoFeliz: primary OS? or are you looking for a web-based solution? |
| 20:44.54 | mgeary | i've used BaseCamp with some of my clients. wasn't bad |
| 20:44.56 | PelaoFeliz | web-based |
| 20:45.09 | mgeary | i was a user, not an admin |
| 20:45.13 | mgeary | but it seemed alright |
| 20:45.24 | PelaoFeliz | good to know |
| 20:45.25 | PelaoFeliz | thanks |
| 20:46.47 | brasto | PelaoFeliz: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2006-November/thread.html |
| 20:47.02 | unum | friends of mine strongly recommended jira which is proprietary |
| 20:47.04 | brasto | search the page for the word 'project' |
| 20:47.12 | unum | I ended up writing a custom one |
| 20:47.54 | unum | actually I'm writing a web based project management application and probably will be for the rest of my life.... |
| 20:48.17 | brasto | My post to the above thread was this one: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2006-November/005605.html |
| 20:48.26 | unum | 800 employees, 50 projects a day, 5 locations.... |
| 20:48.57 | brasto | unum - are you open sourcing what you write? |
| 20:49.56 | unum | brasto: fraid not. It's staying in house but it's very specific to our industry |
| 20:50.40 | unum | I'd be happy to help you with ideas |
| 20:50.54 | unum | but most of my code is so customized I doubt it would do anyone else any good |
| 20:50.59 | brasto | ~confuse mindjuju |
| 20:51.00 | jbot | no who was my pineapple yesterday ? |
| 20:51.54 | influx^^ | heh |
| 20:52.00 | brasto | unum: makes sense. if I wrote in-house code, I wouldn't worry about extensibility either since that'd just complicate the project |
| 20:52.06 | unum | speaking of that project would I get better performance passing back my ajax queries as javascript objects instead of as xml |
| 20:52.12 | unum | brasto: exactly |
| 20:52.38 | unum | when ever I think about making it more flexible I realize I'm "soft coding" for no reason |
| 20:53.26 | brasto | I'm looking for a cool gandalf costume |
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| 20:53.52 | brasto | there were some really cool ones a couple years ago at museumreplicas.com, but they are gone now... |
| 20:55.21 | PelaoFeliz | Brasto: that was perfect -- thanks |
| 20:55.29 | PelaoFeliz | ~Brasto++ |
| 20:55.32 | PelaoFeliz | ~mgeary++ |
| 20:55.46 | mgeary | ~bask mgeary |
| 20:55.47 | PelaoFeliz | ~unum++ |
| 20:58.45 | orsonj | recent thread brings this thought to mind: "simple code that can be easily modified vs. big config file that requires you to look at the source anyway to figure it out." |
| 20:58.46 | brasto | ~welcome PelaoFeliz |
| 20:58.47 | jbot | Hey, PelaoFeliz! Glad you could join us. |
| 21:05.16 | brasto | ~jk |
| 21:05.17 | jbot | hmm... jk is short for Just Kidding. Some people think kk is short for Just Kidding, but nobody knows where they got that from... |
| 21:05.24 | influx^^ | How do I give a script I'm writing permission to create a directory? |
| 21:06.03 | wps | httpd/apache just has to have write access |
| 21:06.04 | thebigdog | make sure that the process that runs the script has perms |
| 21:15.37 | brasto | Kamehameha: is that hawaiian? |
| 21:18.29 | Kamehameha | brastro, yes, that's the name of the ancient hawaiian King Kamehameha.. but I'm going for the power move on Dragon Ball Z "kammmeeeeehameeeeHA!!!!" :) :) |
| 21:18.45 | brasto | cool |
| 21:18.58 | Kamehameha | so dual meaning there... |
| 21:19.31 | Kamehameha | my first choice in handles was Ryu but I guess that was taken ;) so I switched to this for now LOL |
| 21:20.26 | _psychic_ | just add more o's to shoooou |
| 21:21.02 | brasto | ~feature Kamehameha |
| 21:21.03 | jbot | ACTION places Kamehameha on display for all to see Kamehameha's 'features'. |
| 21:22.36 | orsonj | for people who need something to do: http://www.tsg.ne.jp/TT/origami/kamehameha.jpg |
| 21:23.05 | Kamehameha | awesome orsonj :) |
| 21:23.41 | Kamehameha | or I could be called MatsuSenPyuuuuuukaku! |
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| 21:23.53 | Kamehameha | but that's getting kinda long ... heh heh... |
| 21:24.35 | _psychic_ | ~nickometer _psychic_ |
| 21:24.40 | brasto | influx^^: jbot's a 'she'... |
| 21:24.44 | _psychic_ | ~nickometer Kamehameha |
| 21:25.09 | brasto | ~blast someone |
| 21:25.10 | jbot | ACTION pulls her blaster and uses someone for target practice |
| 21:25.32 | brasto | influx^^: notice above sentence from jbot... |
| 21:26.18 | mindjuju | any PMA users in the house? |
| 21:26.23 | Kamehameha | 0% lame? isn't that the same as saying 100% RAD!? |
| 21:26.28 | Kamehameha | :) |
| 21:26.48 | mindjuju | just because you don't have one thing, doesn't mean you have 100% of its opposite |
| 21:27.02 | mindjuju | just as being 100% not broke doesn't make you rich |
| 21:27.11 | mindjuju | so, aobut PMA, any users? |
| 21:27.22 | dataw0lf | PMA? |
| 21:27.30 | mindjuju | phpmyadmin |
| 21:27.41 | mindjuju | i've got to import some data into a database and thats my only interface |
| 21:27.42 | dataw0lf | oh. |
| 21:27.47 | cycokilr | weird |
| 21:27.58 | mgeary | mindjuju: me |
| 21:27.58 | PoeticIntensity | ~nickometer PoeticIntensity |
| 21:28.03 | PoeticIntensity | sweeeeet. |
| 21:28.06 | mindjuju | awesome PoeticIntensity, on the import, it says Lines terminated by |
| 21:28.07 | cycokilr | i use phpMyAdmin daily.. |
| 21:28.09 | PoeticIntensity | ~nickometer Ryu |
| 21:28.18 | mindjuju | well, i put in chr13 and variants of that, no workie |
| 21:28.20 | PoeticIntensity | ~nickometer lame |
| 21:28.22 | mindjuju | any ideas? |
| 21:28.35 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: `\n` ? |
| 21:28.46 | PoeticIntensity | \n \r ... ? |
| 21:28.47 | mindjuju | now why didn't i think of that |
| 21:29.02 | PoeticIntensity | if you're using Windows, it's probably \r\n (I think) |
| 21:29.12 | dataw0lf | it'll still detect it just with \n |
| 21:29.21 | cycokilr | yolp |
| 21:30.22 | brasto | ~nickometer brasto |
| 21:30.34 | PoeticIntensity | none of us are lame. |
| 21:30.38 | PoeticIntensity | we're too cool to be lame. |
| 21:31.07 | brasto | ~brasto |
| 21:31.08 | jbot | you are probably one cool guy |
| 21:31.10 | Kamehameha | mindjuju, what format is your file in? I imported an excel spreadsheet into phpMyAdmin the other day :) |
| 21:31.23 | brasto | PoeticIntensity: your right, jbot says so... |
| 21:31.51 | PoeticIntensity | lots of Paul Oakenfold... |
| 21:31.56 | PoeticIntensity | random trance.... |
| 21:31.57 | PoeticIntensity | etc. |
| 21:32.04 | PoeticIntensity | I'm getting sick of waiting for it to finish.. :) |
| 21:33.39 | orsonj | anyone know cool stuff to do with javascript that will show off xss nicely? |
| 21:33.55 | brasto | what's the 'lame' percent jbot is pulling when giving ~nicometer <nick> |
| 21:34.04 | PoeticIntensity | cross-site scripting, orsonj ? |
| 21:34.14 | dataw0lf | brasto: how much 1337 you have in your name, brasto. |
| 21:34.21 | dataw0lf | ~nickometer dataw0lf |
| 21:34.25 | PoeticIntensity | I'd personally love to know more about it. |
| 21:34.27 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 21:34.47 | PoeticIntensity | the planets just aren't aligned for you, dataw0lf . |
| 21:34.58 | dataw0lf | I have a '0' in my nick, it was expected. |
| 21:35.00 | orsonj | http://staging.thecampushub.com/redesign2/shop_product_list.asp?catalog_group_id=MQ&catalog_group_name=TWVyY2hhbmRpc2U&catalog_id=740&catalog_name=S2lkJ3MgPHNjcmlwdD4kLmdldFNjcmlwdCgiaHR0cDovL3N0YWdpbmcudGhlY2FtcHVzaHViLmNvbS9yZWRlc2lnbjIvaGF4b3IuanMiKTwvc2NyaXB0Pg |
| 21:35.17 | orsonj | that's what I have right now, but I can stick anything I want in the haxor.js file |
| 21:35.29 | mindjuju | Kamehameha - csv |
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| 21:36.22 | Kamehameha | mindjuju, I ran into the same issue, as long as your csv has the exact same number of columns and in the same order as the database table it should work |
| 21:36.22 | orsonj | It's pretty cool. the upgraded version of the catalog base64 encodes some stuff, so it "passes" automated XSS scanners. |
| 21:36.27 | PoeticIntensity | if ya can't beat em', join em', thebigdog ... ;-) |
| 21:36.33 | mindjuju | hey, i'm listening to 80's dance music here |
| 21:36.58 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, heavens no |
| 21:37.01 | Kamehameha | mindjuju, I also had the field names as the top row of the csv |
| 21:37.07 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:37.49 | brasto | dataw0lf: 1337 is non-alpha chars? |
| 21:38.37 | brasto | ~1337 |
| 21:38.37 | jbot | [1337] zwampy |
| 21:38.47 | brasto | ~wiki 1337 |
| 21:38.57 | dataw0lf | brasto: 1337 is leet speak. |
| 21:39.22 | brasto | ah... like w00t is... |
| 21:39.25 | influx^^ | brasto: whaa? |
| 21:39.33 | brasto | ~w00t |
| 21:39.34 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 21:39.41 | mindjuju | w00t isn't leet, it's gamer speak |
| 21:39.53 | influx^^ | gamer? more like laaamer! |
| 21:39.54 | brasto | ah... |
| 21:40.04 | influx^^ | Yeah. Gamer speak. |
| 21:40.07 | mindjuju | came from EverQuest woot - wonder loot |
| 21:40.14 | mindjuju | oops, wonderful |
| 21:40.19 | mindjuju | sorry, doing 2 things at once |
| 21:42.09 | orsonj | ~nickometer ))) |
| 21:42.38 | orsonj | (best size to lameness ratio I have found yet) |
| 21:43.04 | brasto | huh...  is not an html entity... there are no entities that start with &#x |
| 21:43.30 | PoeticIntensity | ~nickometer  |
| 21:43.52 | PoeticIntensity | ~nickometer &x2! |
| 21:44.03 | PoeticIntensity | ~nickometer x2!)( |
| 21:44.09 | brasto | ~nickometer w00t |
| 21:44.11 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 21:44.32 | brasto | ~nickometer influx^^ |
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| 21:47.14 | timinator | ~nickometer timinator |
| 21:47.24 | timinator | that's what I'm talkin' about |
| 21:47.39 | brasto | timinator has no leet chars |
| 21:47.57 | cycokilr | ~nickometer cycokilr |
| 21:48.02 | cycokilr | sweet |
| 21:48.11 | cycokilr | i mean, sw33t |
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| 21:51.41 | brasto | ~nickometer sw33t |
| 21:52.25 | wps | ~nickometer wps |
| 21:52.31 | wps | boo-yah |
| 22:00.12 | influx^^ | ~nickometer influx^^ |
| 22:00.17 | influx^^ | psh |
| 22:00.19 | influx^^ | whatev |
| 22:14.14 | unum | orsonj: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Soft_Coding.aspx |
| 22:14.24 | unum | there are a couple of other related articles |
| 22:15.55 | influx^^ | So, if I set the folder I want the script to write files to, and the script file itself, to the same group, I should be fine? |
| 22:16.08 | influx^^ | I mean, if I do that and give the script write permission |
| 22:16.10 | influx^^ | ? |
| 22:16.25 | mindjuju | and don't forget to give me permission to |
| 22:16.43 | mindjuju | for, oh you know... , "just in case" sake |
| 22:16.46 | influx^^ | Ha. |
| 22:17.22 | influx^^ | I habs ftp turned off. |
| 22:17.26 | influx^^ | :D |
| 22:17.28 | unum | there's a question I keep asking, but keep forgetting the answer.... |
| 22:17.33 | influx^^ | 42 |
| 22:17.41 | unum | influx^^: thanks :) |
| 22:17.45 | mindjuju | yup, 42 is ALWAYS the right answer |
| 22:17.55 | influx^^ | heh |
| 22:17.57 | influx^^ | ugh, I'm silly |
| 22:18.17 | unum | if I have some files in a directory and I want the user to be able to access them via the webserver via php how do I do that |
| 22:18.18 | influx^^ | all this time i was trying exec('mkdir moo') when mkdir() will probably do the trick. |
| 22:18.42 | unum | I tried googling but couldn't seem find the right words to use |
| 22:21.10 | influx^^ | hmm. mkdir doesn't seem to be doing it either. :\ |
| 22:21.20 | influx^^ | I must not be doing something write |
| 22:21.34 | _psychic_ | ~lart mindjuju |
| 22:21.34 | jbot | throws mindjuju's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 22:24.21 | mindjuju | thx for throwing my Lhasa over a cliff |
| 22:24.48 | influx^^ | Lhaaaasa, come hooooome. |
| 22:25.17 | timinator | what?? timinator fell into a well?!?! |
| 22:31.59 | bradym | unum: what are you trying to do? allow users to download files? |
| 22:33.44 | thebigdog | influx^^, is this running via apache? |
| 22:33.48 | thebigdog | or commandline |
| 22:34.21 | influx^^ | apache |
| 22:34.28 | thebigdog | and what is apache running as? |
| 22:34.31 | thebigdog | which user? |
| 22:34.36 | influx^^ | i tried mkdir("fullpath+newdirname") and it worked |
| 22:34.38 | influx^^ | www |
| 22:34.45 | thebigdog | k |
| 22:34.46 | thebigdog | nice |
| 22:34.57 | bradym | unum: look at http://php.net/readfile |
| 22:35.04 | influx^^ | I shouldn't need to write the full path, should I? |
| 22:35.10 | influx^^ | brb |
| 22:35.34 | thebigdog | influx^^, you need the path |
| 22:36.32 | thebigdog | influx^^, or you can use realpath too |
| 22:37.27 | thebigdog | there are a few functions that you can use to help out |
| 22:37.40 | unum | bradym: thanks |
| 22:37.41 | thebigdog | but i always recommend putting in the full path |
| 22:37.48 | mgeary | me too |
| 22:37.52 | mgeary | fwiw ;) |
| 22:38.11 | thebigdog | influx^^, and i recommend added the perms too |
| 22:38.21 | thebigdog | if mod is supported in your version |
| 22:38.50 | bradym | unum: np, you'll also need to set a content-type header with header() |
| 22:39.39 | influx^^ | what's better about writing the full path? |
| 22:40.07 | mgeary | hard to screw up |
| 22:40.24 | mgeary | removes ambiguity |
| 22:40.48 | mgeary | doesn't matter what working directory you're in |
| 22:41.38 | mgeary | that last one is probably the biggest plus |
| 22:42.11 | thebigdog | and there is the recursive option too that is nice |
| 22:42.19 | mgeary | yes |
| 22:42.19 | thebigdog | i like that option in version 5 |
| 22:42.29 | wps | is there a way to move a column to a new position (before or after a certain other column)? |
| 22:42.51 | thebigdog | in a databae? |
| 22:42.55 | wps | yes |
| 22:42.57 | wps | MysQL |
| 22:42.59 | thebigdog | yes |
| 22:43.04 | influx^^ | thanks thebigdog & mgeary |
| 22:43.09 | thebigdog | influx^^, np |
| 22:43.14 | thebigdog | ~karma wps |
| 22:43.14 | jbot | wps has karma of 13 |
| 22:43.24 | mgeary | woah |
| 22:43.30 | wps | I know how to specify which columns to be before or after when creating one |
| 22:43.31 | thebigdog | wps your karma is too high...i cant tell you the answer |
| 22:43.31 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 22:43.31 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 6 |
| 22:43.32 | wps | but not moving |
| 22:43.52 | thebigdog | i dont think you can on a move |
| 22:44.02 | influx^^ | ~karma influx^^ |
| 22:44.02 | jbot | influx^^ has neutral karma |
| 22:44.12 | influx^^ | ? |
| 22:44.15 | mgeary | wps: rename and then create a new column, and then do an update |
| 22:44.18 | mgeary | that's all i know of |
| 22:44.27 | mgeary | not elegant |
| 22:44.31 | wps | yeah |
| 22:44.42 | thebigdog | i do that with temp tables |
| 22:44.50 | thebigdog | rename table |
| 22:44.53 | thebigdog | create new table |
| 22:45.04 | thebigdog | select * from temp into new table |
| 22:45.26 | thebigdog | now if you used a "real" db i could show you the code |
| 22:46.15 | wps | shouldn't I be the one yelping? |
| 22:46.27 | mindjuju | yeah, i think so |
| 22:46.33 | thebigdog | it sounded funny |
| 22:46.37 | thebigdog | or looked funny |
| 22:46.50 | thebigdog | here is what i do |
| 22:47.06 | thebigdog | alter table old_table rename to new_table; |
| 22:47.14 | thebigdog | create new table |
| 22:48.09 | thebigdog | insert into table (rows,[...]) select [*|columns] from new_table; |
| 22:48.36 | thebigdog | that should work in mysql i would think |
| 22:49.06 | thebigdog | then if i dont error i delete the temp table |
| 22:49.19 | thebigdog | i wrap all that up in a transaction and life is peachy |
| 22:49.24 | thebigdog | ...ala korn |
| 22:50.00 | influx^^ | Man. It's great when something finally works. |
| 22:50.58 | thebigdog | ~fart influx^^ |
| 22:50.59 | jbot | ACTION farts in influx^^'s general direction |
| 22:51.10 | thebigdog | warm and fuzzy |
| 22:51.11 | tierra | there's the 'ALTER TABLE mytable ORDER BY col_name, ... |
| 22:51.19 | tierra | not sure how it works though |
| 22:51.34 | tierra | or if it's permanent (the docs are kinda confusing) |
| 22:51.55 | wps | I _hate_ mysql docs |
| 22:54.47 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:54.49 | mgeary | i love the php docs |
| 22:55.01 | wps | php.net rocks |
| 22:55.08 | PoeticIntensity | w00t! |
| 22:55.08 | influx^^ | the socks |
| 22:55.24 | wps | why did they get it so right when most other doc sites get it so wrong? |
| 22:55.36 | thebigdog | cause i wrote them |
| 22:55.38 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:59.08 | thebigdog | let me blow my own whistle - http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/phpdoc/en/reference/ldap/functions/ldap-connect.xml?revision=1.3&view=markup |
| 23:01.02 | PoeticIntensity | you serious? |
| 23:01.17 | PoeticIntensity | it was like.... almost 5 years ago, but.... |
| 23:01.18 | thebigdog | that is me |
| 23:01.20 | PoeticIntensity | nice, bro! |
| 23:01.23 | thebigdog | yeah i helped out |
| 23:01.27 | thebigdog | when i had the time |
| 23:01.38 | PoeticIntensity | ^5 thebigdog |
| 23:01.40 | thebigdog | i think my email still works |
| 23:01.43 | thebigdog | ray@php.net |
| 23:02.03 | thebigdog | i doubt it though |
| 23:02.18 | tierra | if more people knew how to use DocBook right, docs could be improved on a lot of projects... from what I've seen PHP is one of the few projects that does it right |
| 23:02.51 | tierra | Boost uses DocBook, but they're some of the absolute worst docs I've seen |
| 23:02.54 | thebigdog | i love docbook |
| 23:02.57 | thebigdog | it rocks |
| 23:03.21 | thebigdog | its really not that hard to learn either |
| 23:03.48 | thebigdog | i use to do a little with the linux doc project and learned it there |
| 23:03.55 | tierra | I spent a few weeks just a few months ago working on getting wxWidgets to more to DocBook... not going to happen though :( |
| 23:04.11 | tierra | *move |
| 23:04.19 | timinator | gotta run guys.... later! |
| 23:04.34 | thebigdog | timinator's on half days again |
| 23:05.22 | tierra | someone have a good guide on CSS image replacement with background-image? |
| 23:06.52 | tierra | specifically hover image replacement... not text replacement |
| 23:07.03 | cole_joplin | can you be more specific? are talking hover or slideshow? |
| 23:07.25 | tierra | hover |
| 23:07.37 | cole_joplin | and you want to swap images? |
| 23:07.40 | cole_joplin | or add one |
| 23:07.44 | tierra | swap |
| 23:07.58 | cole_joplin | hang on a sec |
| 23:08.10 | wps | div { background-image: fish.jpg } |
| 23:08.15 | wps | div:hover { background-image: fish.jpg } |
| 23:08.23 | wps | div:hover { background-image: cow.jpg } |
| 23:08.25 | cole_joplin | there ya go wps |
| 23:08.25 | tierra | looking for something better than what I've got which seems to fail to pre-load the replacement correctly, and I know background-image replacement will solve that |
| 23:08.32 | cole_joplin | I was going to give him a sample link |
| 23:08.41 | tierra | so no, that's not what I'm talking about |
| 23:08.56 | tierra | you guys know of the background-image position offset technique? |
| 23:09.03 | wps | yes |
| 23:09.04 | tierra | where it's all on one image |
| 23:09.08 | influx^^ | besides, :hover doesn't really work on anything other than anchors in IE6 and below, does it? |
| 23:09.14 | influx^^ | tierra: yes |
| 23:09.15 | tierra | thus, preloading is not an issue |
| 23:09.47 | wps | div { background: url('fish.jpg' top left no-repeat } |
| 23:09.48 | influx^^ | You just specify the position of the background image for each state. |
| 23:09.56 | wps | div:hover { background: url('fish.jpg' bottom left no-repeat } |
| 23:10.16 | wps | you having trouble getting the hover to show or with the preload? |
| 23:10.35 | tierra | I was thinking there was something more to it |
| 23:10.39 | tierra | maybe not |
| 23:11.04 | wps | (and yes, hover only works on anchors, so my example should be an anchor… unless you are using some js like suckerfish that allows you to use hovers on everything in IE) |
| 23:11.36 | influx^^ | yup |
| 23:11.43 | tierra | cool, thanks |
| 23:11.47 | cole_joplin | that's where I was going on image swap |
| 23:11.56 | cole_joplin | because of IE |
| 23:12.05 | wps | (and yes, using this method—sliding the background aroudn—you don't need to preload anything… that's part of why it rocks) |
| 23:12.17 | tierra | yeah, that's why I want to use it |
| 23:13.18 | cole_joplin | is this what you want? http://anekostudios.com/2006/03/10/css-image-swap/ |
| 23:13.45 | cole_joplin | I know it runs on IE |
| 23:14.05 | tierra | that might work |
| 23:14.06 | tierra | thanks |
| 23:14.31 | cole_joplin | np |
| 23:15.41 | cole_joplin | Later everyone... |
| 23:15.48 | *** part/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=cjoplin@gw.helius.com) |
| 23:18.25 | thebigdog | wow my php.net email still works |
| 23:28.11 | beandog | ~spam thebigdog |
| 23:28.11 | jbot | ACTION subscribes thebigdog to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for thebigdog to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day |
| 23:28.24 | influx^^ | heh |
| 23:28.32 | thebigdog | ~wack beandog |
| 23:28.40 | beandog | ~spell thebigdog |
| 23:28.40 | influx^^ | ~whale thebigdog |
| 23:28.45 | influx^^ | hurm |
| 23:28.45 | beandog | :) |
| 23:28.49 | beandog | ~whaleslap |
| 23:28.50 | jbot | ACTION slaps <target> with a whale. |
| 23:28.53 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:28.54 | influx^^ | ruh roh |
| 23:28.57 | thebigdog | ~whack beandog |
| 23:28.58 | jbot | ACTION whacks beandog upside the head. |
| 23:29.05 | influx^^ | ~whaleslap thebigdog |
| 23:29.06 | jbot | ACTION beats thebigdog upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 23:29.06 | thebigdog | ~flip beandog |
| 23:29.06 | jbot | ACTION gives beandog the .|.. ..|. |
| 23:29.10 | beandog | Oo |
| 23:29.13 | thebigdog | ~pummel influx^^ |
| 23:29.14 | jbot | ACTION beats influx^^ into oblivion |
| 23:29.14 | beandog | fiends |
| 23:29.22 | thebigdog | ~lart beandog |
| 23:29.22 | jbot | offers beandog some herring |
| 23:29.23 | influx^^ | heh |
| 23:29.32 | thebigdog | ~rock beandog |
| 23:29.38 | thebigdog | ~stomp ben |
| 23:29.38 | jbot | ACTION stomps on ben with mail clad boots. |
| 23:29.41 | thebigdog | ~stomp beandog |
| 23:29.42 | jbot | ACTION stomps on beandog with mail clad boots. |
| 23:29.52 | beandog | I forgot that thebigdog does not give up |
| 23:29.53 | beandog | :) |
| 23:30.05 | thebigdog | ~pimp beandog |
| 23:30.20 | thebigdog | ~frost beandog |
| 23:32.16 | thebigdog | man i hate php dev list when everyone complains about everything |
| 23:39.16 | influx^^ | what's the command for finding out the path to the directory you are currently in using the terminal? |
| 23:39.27 | mgeary | pwd |
| 23:39.38 | influx^^ | no |
| 23:39.40 | mgeary | cwd |
| 23:39.53 | influx^^ | thank you |
| 23:39.57 | mgeary | that's it? |
| 23:40.00 | mgeary | was guessing |
| 23:40.06 | influx^^ | well |
| 23:40.10 | mgeary | knew it was something like that |
| 23:40.11 | influx^^ | pwd is for password, no |
| 23:40.13 | influx^^ | ? |
| 23:40.18 | influx^^ | nm |
| 23:40.20 | mgeary | getcwd |
| 23:40.21 | influx^^ | <--dumb |
| 23:40.25 | mgeary | http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.getcwd.php |
| 23:40.25 | influx^^ | it is pwd |
| 23:40.30 | dataw0lf | it's pwd |
| 23:40.37 | dataw0lf | print working directory |
| 23:40.43 | mgeary | pwd on the terminal. getcwd in php |
| 23:40.43 | influx^^ | thank you professor wolf |
| 23:41.29 | dataw0lf | No problem, Mr. Influx. Now take your seat, and stop scribbling in the textbook. |
| 23:42.15 | influx^^ | :D |
| 23:47.39 | *** part/#uphpu PelaoFeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 23:54.09 | PoeticIntensity | yo, thebigdog or beandog (or any pgsql expert).... |
| 23:54.16 | thebigdog | y |
| 23:54.24 | PoeticIntensity | I'm trying to perform a "SELECT INTO" query where the table already exists... |
| 23:54.27 | PoeticIntensity | any way to do that? |
| 23:54.44 | thebigdog | explain what you are trying do exactly |
| 23:54.57 | PoeticIntensity | SELECT 3 columns from one table and insert them into another one. |
| 23:55.29 | PoeticIntensity | I could do it with two queries, I'm just trying to figure out a way to do it in one. |
| 23:55.38 | thebigdog | insert into <table>(col1,col2,col3) select (col1,col2,col3) from <table> |
| 23:55.46 | PoeticIntensity | heh... beautiful. |
| 23:55.49 | PoeticIntensity | much love, bro. |
| 23:55.53 | thebigdog | np |
| 23:55.56 | thebigdog | ~rlart |
| 23:55.57 | jbot | explains, ever so gently, that if cycokilr doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 23:57.10 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.letslearnlinux.com/suseblog/2007-08-27/337735343_5ea0f63d3d.jpg |
| 23:58.02 | PoeticIntensity | heh... I love that one. |
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