| 00:00.37 | Utah_Dave | me neither |
| 00:04.30 | Utah_Dave | later, guys |
| 00:04.37 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: don't stay up too late! |
| 00:06.27 | mindjuju | laterz |
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| 01:04.22 | macnewbold | ~seen mindjuju |
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| 01:04.52 | mindjuju | i'm here |
| 01:05.38 | macnewbold | I've got a guy who wants to present to UPHPU |
| 01:05.47 | macnewbold | he's actually been to our meetings at least once |
| 01:05.57 | macnewbold | he's the head of Agency Fusion |
| 01:06.13 | macnewbold | today I met with them and they wanted to get my feedback on their CMS, Tweak |
| 01:06.29 | macnewbold | I was expecting yet another CMS, but it really surprised me, and I left very impressed |
| 01:07.30 | mindjuju | really? |
| 01:08.15 | mindjuju | what is the license for Tweak? |
| 01:08.37 | macnewbold | it's a different model than most CMSs use, they have a free or paying service that does the management of all the stuff, |
| 01:09.14 | macnewbold | and then you use a publish thing to send it to your server as flat files |
| 01:12.16 | mindjuju | nearly done reading the website, uno momento mas por favor |
| 01:12.20 | macnewbold | sure |
| 01:12.21 | mindjuju | oh, and replied to PM |
| 01:12.23 | macnewbold | k |
| 01:15.51 | mindjuju | k, so let me see if i'm understanding. So i'm Mr. Consultant, and I get Ms Client A. Client A and I talk and we agree on a design. Then I pass to agencyfusion and they press the design into a CMS and then I manage from there? |
| 01:16.05 | mindjuju | does that include all the stuff in the background like the database connects, etc? |
| 01:18.36 | macnewbold | you can do that, and they're happy to provide that service (ball park of $1K-5K to implement a design into the CMS and everything) |
| 01:18.49 | macnewbold | or you can use Tweak yourself, put in your html/css template and use it |
| 01:19.12 | macnewbold | it's free for 15 pages or less, and they'll probably be coming out with more options between that and their current lowest plan of $30/month |
| 01:19.35 | macnewbold | the template requires someone with html/css skills (at least basic level), but the rest is all pretty easily done by a typical user |
| 01:28.16 | mindjuju | wow, ephox looks cool |
| 01:28.19 | mindjuju | but pricey |
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| 01:30.04 | mindjuju | macnewbold, did you look at ephox? |
| 01:30.56 | macnewbold | haven't heard of it. |
| 01:31.20 | mindjuju | oh, well, that page you sent over, has a tweak demo |
| 01:31.29 | mindjuju | the tweak demo has a test login to try |
| 01:31.43 | mindjuju | when you go to the cms to test out, it loads a java applet called ephox |
| 01:31.51 | mindjuju | ephox was made by a co in Australia |
| 01:31.54 | macnewbold | ah |
| 01:31.59 | macnewbold | intersting |
| 01:32.01 | mindjuju | and is selling the interface for the CMS |
| 01:32.06 | mindjuju | http://www.ephox.com/products/editlive/features/forms.html |
| 01:32.16 | macnewbold | one of the sites they did with it is the young electric sign company (yesco.com I think) |
| 01:32.29 | macnewbold | they had some really sweet YUI effects on the navigation that they did through the CMS |
| 01:32.39 | mindjuju | it's like an awesome IDE but looks pretty intuitive |
| 01:32.56 | macnewbold | it is very full featured I think, and auto-generates your navigation from a template, yet still lets you embed raw php wherever you need to |
| 01:33.32 | mindjuju | about Tweak, i wouldn't mind if they presented, but maybe we could get them to split the time into part about their product, part about PHP |
| 01:33.45 | mindjuju | the reason i say that is we had a previous speaker who came in selling wares, and that's all he did |
| 01:33.57 | mindjuju | it left some people with a bad test |
| 01:34.08 | mindjuju | oops, not test, taste |
| 01:35.15 | mindjuju | or maybe have a copresenter speak on another topic |
| 01:35.21 | mindjuju | OR! i've got it! |
| 01:35.52 | mindjuju | We could talk about being a consultant in Utah, they present their thing on Tweak, and then we could have a form exchange, etc |
| 01:35.59 | macnewbold | right, that makes sense |
| 01:36.05 | macnewbold | they were conscious of that too |
| 01:36.17 | macnewbold | i'm sure there are some php topics other than just their own CMS that they could speak about |
| 01:36.34 | mindjuju | that could work, i think |
| 01:36.35 | macnewbold | tips and tricks for doing quick and easy html/css buildouts perhaps, since they do really well with that |
| 01:37.02 | macnewbold | anyway, if this might work, you could get in touch with him. you can probably get them to sponsor food and drink too :) |
| 01:37.07 | macnewbold | that should avoid any bad tastes |
| 01:37.20 | mindjuju | yeah, true that, was just thinking about swag or treats |
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| 03:05.18 | Utah_Dave | how's it going, mindjuju? Still in your cave? |
| 03:08.24 | mindjuju | yup |
| 03:08.52 | mindjuju | just finishing on some work projects, going to swing around and update a document i'm going to need for tomorrow |
| 03:08.55 | mindjuju | what up with you? |
| 03:15.59 | mindjuju | finally! Di.fm is playing something with a decent bass line and that sounds good |
| 03:16.23 | mindjuju | i mean, isn't that what ya'll 'd expect out of a breaks channel? |
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| 03:26.10 | macnewbold | so how many of us are working late? |
| 03:26.35 | mindjuju | me |
| 03:26.36 | macnewbold | I've been averaging 11+ hours per weekday all month... |
| 03:26.43 | Utah_Dav1 | dang |
| 03:26.49 | mindjuju | long days |
| 03:27.00 | macnewbold | wow, actually for the last 6 weeks. |
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| 03:27.38 | Utah_Dave | and mindjuju never leaves work |
| 03:27.39 | macnewbold | I can't wait to get some of our new hires in here... I am getting really worn out doing this day after day |
| 03:27.59 | Utah_Dave | of course, I might not either if I had such a super-deluxe work chair |
| 03:28.07 | mindjuju | heh |
| 03:28.13 | mindjuju | yeah, chair makes a MIGHTY difference |
| 03:28.20 | macnewbold | this morning my wife was telling me something hilarious (and sad at the same time) about my sons missing me and stuff |
| 03:28.30 | mindjuju | :( |
| 03:28.45 | macnewbold | our almost-5-year-old David was talking with her about why he comes up to our room in the middle of the night to sleep on the floor |
| 03:29.03 | macnewbold | he told her "I like the noises dad makes" (meaning the quiet snoring/sleep noises) |
| 03:29.23 | Utah_Dave | ahh |
| 03:29.24 | macnewbold | when she asked about it he went on to say that he didn't like the noises that his 6-year-old brother Oliver makes (with whom he shares a room) |
| 03:29.44 | mindjuju | it's stuff like that, that make you wish you could capture it in a vid |
| 03:29.48 | macnewbold | yeah, totally |
| 03:29.49 | mindjuju | so you could hear it when you need to |
| 03:29.49 | Utah_Dave | are you trying to guilt me into sending you an application! |
| 03:29.53 | macnewbold | at least now I've got it in an IRC log |
| 03:30.10 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: if you're feeling guilty, there must be a reason... |
| 03:30.11 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 03:30.18 | macnewbold | no, no jedi mind tricks here |
| 03:30.25 | macnewbold | we're actually doing surprisingly well |
| 03:30.59 | macnewbold | there are 4 of us full time right now, but only one besides me is a developer, and his time is booked solid on a big project |
| 03:31.11 | macnewbold | we've got another dev starting monday (10/1), |
| 03:31.27 | macnewbold | then a graphic designer/html/css guru the next week (10/8), |
| 03:31.37 | macnewbold | another developer starting on 10/22, |
| 03:31.46 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 03:31.59 | macnewbold | and an offer out to another developer (someone at the UPHPU meeting last week) who we're waiting to hear from, |
| 03:32.26 | macnewbold | and 2-3 other people we're interviewing, at least two of which I really hope to get on board |
| 03:32.44 | macnewbold | and a lead on another graphics/front-end guy we'd try to get in here for November or December probably |
| 03:32.50 | macnewbold | it's been insane |
| 03:33.20 | macnewbold | 10/22 will be two months since we went from 6 people to 1 person, and in that two months we'll be back up to 7 people, as big as CG ever had been before |
| 03:33.29 | macnewbold | s/CG/Code Greene/ |
| 03:33.36 | Utah_Dave | awesome |
| 03:33.49 | Utah_Dave | It sounds like a lot of fun working there. |
| 03:34.11 | macnewbold | one of the best parts though is that we've raised our hiring standards, getting proven people rather than entry level guys we train in the way we want them to do it, and we're finding great talent |
| 03:34.21 | Utah_Dave | I've been dreaming of working somewhere you can get paid bonuses for working hard and smart. |
| 03:34.31 | Utah_Dave | and play pool on my breaks |
| 03:34.32 | macnewbold | I really think it will get to be even more fun as time goes on |
| 03:34.34 | macnewbold | exactly :) |
| 03:36.09 | Utah_Dave | working for the government has it's pluses, but bonuses and perks like game rooms are not in the cards |
| 03:36.24 | macnewbold | that's the nice thing about going into business, is that you can break most of the "rules" about business, and set up your dream job |
| 03:36.40 | mindjuju | utah_dave , do you get to shop the commissary ? |
| 03:36.42 | macnewbold | it's even cooler to throw out a job posting and see who else agrees with you about what a dream job should be :) |
| 03:37.11 | macnewbold | well, Utah_Dave, you'll still be invited to come play in our game room any time you want |
| 03:37.27 | macnewbold | but the bonuses probably won't happen unless you come work with us or something |
| 03:37.33 | Utah_Dave | sweet! I'll definitely take you up on that! |
| 03:37.39 | macnewbold | I totally mean it |
| 03:38.00 | macnewbold | we want to have at least monthly geek nights where it's open for whoever wants to come play and eat pizza with us until the wee hours |
| 03:38.21 | mindjuju | LAN party? |
| 03:38.24 | macnewbold | sure |
| 03:38.33 | macnewbold | we'll have a lan and 30Mbps internet |
| 03:38.47 | mindjuju | i haven't LAN'd in more than a year |
| 03:39.04 | macnewbold | and after work hours, some work stations (probably not many with windows though) that would be available |
| 03:39.20 | macnewbold | we'll have at least a couple in the game room though, for playing games |
| 03:39.34 | macnewbold | and for my kids to go visit pbskids.org and stuff when they come to the office to visit |
| 03:39.54 | macnewbold | it's funny, but my 4 and 6 year olds are happy as clams when you get them sat down in front of the internet |
| 03:40.01 | macnewbold | oliver has more favorite web sites than I do |
| 03:40.38 | Utah_Dave | that's awesome |
| 03:42.52 | macnewbold | they learn a ton if you get them to the right sites... |
| 03:43.03 | macnewbold | it's pretty amazing the content they have out there for kids these days |
| 03:44.15 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 03:45.41 | Utah_Dave | well, guys, my wife is making me shutdown. |
| 03:45.47 | macnewbold | k, good night |
| 03:45.54 | Utah_Dave | later! |
| 03:45.56 | macnewbold | I probably ought to go see my wife soon too |
| 05:01.38 | macnewbold | well, finally headed home |
| 05:01.49 | macnewbold | g'night all, see you in 8-9 hours |
| 05:02.58 | macnewbold | (in my book, it's never a good thing when you're spending more time at work than away from it. I don't think people should even have to spend the majority of their waking hours at their job, unless they are awake less than 16 hours per day) |
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| 14:49.58 | timinator | ~morning all |
| 14:49.59 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping all in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 14:50.07 | timinator | feels like a Friday :) |
| 14:54.50 | macnewbold | ~celebrate |
| 14:54.51 | jbot | ACTION dances around firing six-shooters in the air |
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| 15:09.23 | mgeary | ~moo |
| 15:09.23 | jbot | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 15:09.55 | mgeary | those are awful links |
| 15:10.01 | mgeary | jbot, forget moo |
| 15:10.01 | jbot | i forgot moo, mgeary |
| 15:10.10 | mgeary | ~moo |
| 15:10.14 | mgeary | whew |
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| 15:14.28 | fungus | jbot, moo is mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 15:14.29 | jbot | ACTION moos at is mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 15:14.43 | fungus | ~moo |
| 15:14.57 | mgeary | jbot: moo is <action> mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my a** |
| 15:14.58 | jbot | ACTION moos at is <action> mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my a** |
| 15:15.19 | fungus | ~moo |
| 15:15.22 | fungus | ~moos |
| 15:15.28 | mgeary | weird |
| 15:16.50 | orsonj | ~moo fungus |
| 15:16.50 | jbot | ACTION moos at fungus |
| 15:17.04 | mgeary | jbot, forget moo |
| 15:17.04 | jbot | i didn't have anything called 'moo' to forget, mgeary |
| 15:17.29 | orsonj | do a jbot, no moo is ... |
| 15:18.07 | mgeary | jbot, no, moo is a sound a cow makes |
| 15:18.07 | jbot | mgeary: okay |
| 15:18.10 | mgeary | ~moo |
| 15:18.12 | jbot | moo is probably a sound a cow makes |
| 15:18.27 | mgeary | jbot, no, moo is <action> mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my a** |
| 15:18.28 | jbot | okay, mgeary |
| 15:18.30 | mgeary | ~moo |
| 15:18.31 | jbot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my a** |
| 15:18.39 | fungus | aha! |
| 15:18.42 | fungus | congrats |
| 15:18.46 | mgeary | shees |
| 15:18.48 | mgeary | h |
| 15:19.09 | mgeary | i'd like to see the cow that only weighs twice as much as me |
| 15:19.14 | mgeary | ~babycow |
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| 16:00.54 | mindjuju | ~APB macnewbold |
| 16:00.54 | jbot | ACTION hires Beth to stake out macnewbold |
| 16:00.59 | mindjuju | macnewbold - check PM |
| 16:03.45 | brasto | ~rlart |
| 16:03.46 | jbot | does a little 'dpkg -P orsonj' action |
| 16:04.26 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 16:04.27 | jbot | teaches influx^^ that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 16:28.31 | unum | PHP 5.1.6 (cli) (built: May 8 2007 19:51:21) |
| 16:28.43 | unum | but it can't find the DateTime class |
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| 16:28.56 | unum | do I have to install another package or turn it on somewhere? |
| 16:38.39 | fungus | from http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.date-create.php |
| 16:38.45 | fungus | date_create and other DateTime related functions are included by default only in PHP versions equal and greater than 5.2. |
| 16:38.45 | fungus | In PHP 5.1.2 this functionality is marked to be experimental and has to be enabled at compile time. |
| 16:40.04 | mgeary | apparently it's messy |
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| 17:07.57 | wps | oo… I'd love for my wife to make a pie with those |
| 17:08.53 | mgeary | Apple Crisp++ |
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| 17:31.18 | mgeary | that's a good one |
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| 18:07.23 | Utah_Dave | man, I'm so sick of this |
| 18:07.35 | Utah_Dave | I've been fighting AD all morning |
| 18:08.09 | Utah_Dave | a coworker made a couple of changes to AD policies right before he went home last night. And didn't test anything because he was in a hurry |
| 18:08.20 | Utah_Dave | pain in the behind |
| 18:08.25 | Utah_Dave | ~lart active directory |
| 18:08.25 | jbot | lowers active directory's priority |
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| 18:08.39 | mgeary | some of those rlart's are just too mild |
| 18:09.20 | beandog | buenas |
| 18:10.03 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: yeah. kill -9 Active Directory |
| 18:55.44 | cole_joplin | The best way to fight AD is just to open it up to everyone, and work your way back after a few months. |
| 19:06.24 | mgeary | ~cornnuts synic |
| 19:06.25 | jbot | ACTION sends synic out for CornNuts™ for everyone. "Mmm, extra crunchy!" |
| 19:31.12 | timinator | ~lart the quiet |
| 19:31.12 | jbot | hereby declares the quiet a troll |
| 19:32.09 | timinator | jbot, I was looking for something a bit more dramatic |
| 19:32.10 | jbot | You was looking for something a bit more dramatic? |
| 19:32.14 | timinator | yes |
| 19:32.19 | timinator | ~lart the quiet |
| 19:32.19 | jbot | whacks the quiet with the cluebat |
| 19:32.23 | fungus | jbot, yes |
| 19:32.23 | jbot | You don't say! |
| 19:32.31 | fungus | jbot, I do say |
| 19:32.32 | jbot | You do say? |
| 19:32.38 | timinator | LOL |
| 19:32.45 | fungus | jbot, oh really? |
| 19:32.45 | jbot | REALLY! |
| 19:37.19 | mgeary | jbot, you're full of beans |
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| 19:40.36 | fungus | ~lart jbot |
| 19:40.36 | jbot | teaches fungus that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 19:41.08 | fungus | jbot, Why are you so annoying? |
| 19:41.10 | jbot | fungus: what are you talking about? |
| 19:41.23 | mgeary | jbot, give fungus a smooch |
| 19:41.23 | jbot | ACTION gives a smooch to fungus |
| 19:41.55 | timinator | I'm creating a drop-down of times throughout the day..... starting at 12am and going through 11 |
| 19:41.58 | timinator | oops |
| 19:42.10 | timinator | *through 11:30pm |
| 19:42.25 | timinator | anyone have an idea of how that for loop should look? |
| 19:42.45 | mgeary | with 30-minute increments? |
| 19:42.48 | timinator | it should be easier than I'm making it out to be |
| 19:42.49 | timinator | yes |
| 19:42.53 | mgeary | use strtotime() |
| 19:42.53 | timinator | every 30 min |
| 19:43.49 | mgeary | $next_time = strtotime($formatted_time . " +30 minutes"); |
| 19:43.55 | mgeary | something like that |
| 19:44.02 | mgeary | then: |
| 19:44.22 | mgeary | $formatted_time = date("H:m:s",$next_time); |
| 19:44.26 | mgeary | and on with your loop |
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| 19:46.18 | dataw0lf | do it on the client side; why do it in PHP? |
| 19:48.12 | fungus | Because JS might not be enabled. |
| 19:48.42 | dataw0lf | pfft. |
| 19:49.07 | timinator | thx guys |
| 20:00.32 | timinator | how would you do it in JS? |
| 20:00.41 | herlo | http://xkcd.com/322/ |
| 20:01.45 | timinator | (I don't plan on using JS for it, but I'm curious) |
| 20:32.53 | wps | I'm trying to insert japanese characters into a MySQL DB. They inserted fine, but appear jacked up when viewed. I am sure that it's because I am not specifying an encoding (UTF 8). How do I do that as part of the insert? |
| 20:39.28 | beandog | you have to set to collation on the table |
| 20:39.31 | beandog | or the column. |
| 20:39.36 | beandog | use pma. :) |
| 20:39.38 | beandog | I dunno the sql |
| 20:44.50 | wps | ah… found something |
| 20:44.57 | wps | I have to run: |
| 20:45.02 | wps | set names 'utf8'; |
| 20:45.18 | wps | before doing my insert(s) |
| 20:45.25 | wps | it puts me in that "mode" |
| 20:49.26 | beandog | rawk |
| 20:50.17 | wps | rawk? |
| 20:53.20 | beandog | rock |
| 20:53.27 | wps | ah :) |
| 20:56.03 | wps | man I hate websites that have audio/video that starts playing automatically |
| 20:56.18 | Utah_Dave | I agree. It's so frustrating |
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| 21:06.47 | mgeary | wps: worse than that-- i went to a site the other day that had a banner ad that played music |
| 21:06.50 | mgeary | without me touching |
| 21:06.51 | mgeary | it |
| 21:06.56 | mgeary | OBnoxious!! |
| 21:28.37 | orsonj | but then, I usualy brows with flash disabled anyway |
| 21:32.17 | beandog | flashblock++ |
| 21:32.24 | beandog | privoxy++ |
| 21:32.25 | orsonj | noscript++ |
| 21:32.50 | mindjuju | you gots to have some JS |
| 21:32.57 | mindjuju | just not obnoxious js |
| 21:33.12 | Black_Chaos | adblockplus++ |
| 21:35.05 | orsonj | yep, that's why I use noscript. allow the stuff I need, block all else. |
| 21:35.33 | orsonj | then I use cookiesafe also |
| 21:35.47 | orsonj | It's like noscript for cookies |
| 21:38.44 | Black_Chaos | does cookiesafe allow you to set sites that cookies won't be erased for when you clear cookies? |
| 21:40.22 | orsonj | I never use clear cookies. I just set some sites to temporarily allow. That erases their cookies when you close the browser. |
| 21:41.09 | orsonj | some sites I set allow for session. it always accepts the cookies, but deletes them when you close the browser |
| 21:41.46 | orsonj | a couple I set always allow (sites I like to be permanently logged into) |
| 21:44.37 | orsonj | right now I have cookies from 6 domains and I have been online all day |
| 21:44.50 | orsonj | when I close, about half of them will survive |
| 21:46.13 | mindjuju | xmission is so cool. i'm sitting in this freezing colo and guess who walks in, but Pete Ashdown followed by a couple of techs |
| 21:49.05 | beandog | well, doesnt he work there? |
| 21:49.14 | beandog | er, own the place |
| 21:49.15 | beandog | or something |
| 21:49.17 | beandog | anyway |
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| 21:54.28 | beandog | now_playing[01.The_Tale_of_Icewind_Dale_Movie_1.mp3] length[0:20/stream] |
| 21:54.31 | beandog | sweet |
| 21:54.32 | beandog | worked |
| 21:54.32 | beandog | :D |
| 21:55.04 | orsonj | come on, how often does the guy who actually owns the place walk in to do the same kind of thing you are doing. |
| 21:56.31 | beandog | um |
| 21:56.45 | beandog | well, when you work at a small business, about 85 times a day |
| 21:56.48 | beandog | ;) |
| 21:57.10 | orsonj | ok, in a place that employs 50+ people |
| 21:57.26 | orsonj | (or 1+ for that matter) |
| 21:57.30 | orsonj | sorry, 5+ |
| 21:57.31 | herlo | orsonj: XMission has more than 50 employees I would think... |
| 21:57.49 | timinator | they should hire fungus at the higher rate |
| 21:58.20 | timinator | tell Ashdown, mindjuju |
| 21:58.47 | orsonj | I guess I was trying to say that the people who have 50+ people under them don't usually do some of the same things as those 50+ people |
| 21:59.31 | orsonj | they "Administrate" and other things ending in ...ate |
| 22:00.00 | orsonj | although, I'm sure Pete does his fair share of business administration |
| 22:00.16 | beandog | hmm |
| 22:00.22 | beandog | this track sounds like it was in Neverwinter Nights |
| 22:00.38 | timinator | "Mr. Ashdown. There's a fine young man that's received a job offer from your fine establishment here. You need to call him personally, and offer him another 20k. You won't regret it, sir." |
| 22:00.47 | timinator | his name is fungus |
| 22:00.48 | beandog | its worth a try |
| 22:02.25 | timinator | mindjuju: if you'd like, I can call your cell and you can pass the phone over |
| 22:02.27 | timinator | :) |
| 22:02.33 | timinator | I'll do the negotiating |
| 22:02.35 | timinator | :) |
| 22:09.57 | mindjuju | sorry, i'm back |
| 22:10.02 | mindjuju | had to put quarters in the meter |
| 22:10.46 | mindjuju | so fungus, want me to say that Lonnie Olson has crazy mad skillz to pay the billz |
| 22:11.08 | fungus | lol, sure. |
| 22:11.16 | mindjuju | and obviously, if you knew what his current employer knows, who just raised his wage x dollars, you'd pay x +20k to get him |
| 22:12.06 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 22:12.25 | mindjuju | hi herlo, i'm here and just reading your email as we speak |
| 22:12.31 | mindjuju | oh, and freezing my bum too |
| 22:12.48 | herlo | hehe, why are you doing that? |
| 22:12.54 | mindjuju | there is a reason the wifi here is called cold aire |
| 22:12.55 | herlo | mindjuju: just thought I'd follow up |
| 22:12.58 | mindjuju | at xmission colo |
| 22:13.06 | herlo | mindjuju: oh right |
| 22:13.07 | herlo | :) |
| 22:13.33 | mindjuju | <whisper>I don't do patch Tuesday on Tuesday, but Friday</whisper> |
| 22:14.02 | mindjuju | i've been hit too many times by Patch tuesday where they rushed the patch to fix a 0day only to leave something else wide open |
| 22:14.05 | mindjuju | or fubar |
| 22:14.21 | herlo | mindjuju: sounds about right |
| 22:14.28 | fungus | Can't you do patches remotely? |
| 22:14.44 | mindjuju | so, too risky to patch on Tuesday, i usually wait til Thursday cause you'd have heard about it by then |
| 22:14.57 | mindjuju | you can do patches remotely, but my tape backup was giving me crap |
| 22:15.05 | mindjuju | so, had to come down here for that |
| 22:15.12 | fungus | ahh, makes sense. |
| 22:15.32 | mindjuju | fungus, did you decide on which opp you were going to take? |
| 22:15.51 | fungus | XM is trying to get me more money, and will get back to me. |
| 22:15.59 | mindjuju | rock on! |
| 22:17.04 | mindjuju | even if they don't, at least they didn't say "our offer stands"... and that means something |
| 22:17.35 | fungus | True. |
| 22:19.16 | beandog | http://tinyurl.com/2r6qdn |
| 22:19.17 | beandog | cake! |
| 22:19.29 | mindjuju | i heard techs at xmission make a pretty penny flipping tapes or swapping DVDs for those who live a ways away and can't make it down here so often to do back up |
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| 22:20.27 | fungus | good idea. I'd pay to have tapes swapped if I lived really far away too. |
| 22:22.42 | beandog | wont let me set bool type, default of 0, when bool is really tinyint(1) |
| 22:27.14 | Utah_Dave | later, everyone |
| 22:27.19 | Utah_Dave | have a great weekend |
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| 23:09.20 | timinator | later guys |
| 23:09.24 | wps | this is the syntax, right? |
| 23:09.37 | wps | if true ? this : else this |
| 23:09.38 | wps | …? |
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| 23:12.02 | mgeary | right |
| 23:12.25 | mgeary | a=b ? echo "true" : echo "false"; |
| 23:12.33 | wps | thanks |
| 23:12.44 | wps | perhaps that will be natural to me someday |
| 23:12.48 | mgeary | eeh |
| 23:13.11 | mgeary | i only use where it really seems to want it |
| 23:13.19 | wps | I don't ever use it |
| 23:13.26 | wps | but my coworker does and I have to read his code |
| 23:13.47 | wps | I'd rather waste two lines and write out an if |
| 23:13.58 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:13.58 | jsmith | If A = B and B = C then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law |
| 23:14.32 | fungus | wps: Its very useful in conditionally assigning a value to a variable. |
| 23:14.48 | wps | yeah, that's what he's doing here actually |
| 23:15.06 | wps | I'm out |
| 23:15.09 | wps | have a great weekend |
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