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| 05:41.04 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 05:50.53 | mgeary | herlo: go to bed, you! |
| 05:51.07 | mgeary | :) |
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| 06:03.17 | herlo | ~lart mgeary |
| 06:03.17 | jbot | holds mgeary to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 06:03.27 | herlo | mgeary: why aren't you in bed? huh, huh! |
| 06:03.55 | mgeary | dealing with dedicated server issues |
| 06:04.05 | mgeary | :/ |
| 06:08.59 | herlo | mgeary: dealing with idiots here... |
| 06:09.10 | mgeary | must be contagious |
| 06:09.18 | mgeary | 'cause i've got them here too |
| 06:09.29 | herlo | yeah, probably :( |
| 06:11.50 | mgeary | hey, anyone here know how to get "dig" to reset it's DNS timer? |
| 06:12.20 | mgeary | or is that coming from my nameserver? |
| 06:12.46 | mgeary | i want to try to force a DNS update to go through more quickly, at least for me |
| 06:19.40 | herlo | mgeary: its coming from the dns server |
| 06:19.58 | mgeary | ok, and i can't force it to refresh, can i? |
| 06:20.09 | herlo | mgeary: when you do a dig sitename you see that number (86400) in the record you are looking at? |
| 06:20.18 | herlo | that's the timeout |
| 06:20.21 | mgeary | yeah |
| 06:20.24 | herlo | which is in seconds |
| 06:20.32 | herlo | 86400 seconds = 1 day |
| 06:20.34 | mgeary | can i request that that get reset? |
| 06:20.48 | mgeary | prolly, not, im assuming |
| 06:20.50 | herlo | not usually. Is this for your site? |
| 06:20.58 | mgeary | one i manage |
| 06:21.07 | herlo | do you manage the dns? Or know who does? |
| 06:21.10 | mgeary | gotta test it, but it's a vhost, so i can't til the dns updates |
| 06:21.16 | herlo | sure you can |
| 06:21.21 | herlo | use your hosts |
| 06:21.30 | herlo | are you on windows or *nix? |
| 06:21.37 | mgeary | OS X |
| 06:21.40 | herlo | oh |
| 06:21.50 | mgeary | gonna suggest /etc/hosts? |
| 06:21.55 | herlo | I don't know where the stub resolver is in OSX but in linux its called /etc/hosts |
| 06:21.58 | mgeary | yeah |
| 06:22.00 | herlo | yes, why? |
| 06:22.05 | mgeary | working on that now |
| 06:22.08 | herlo | ahh |
| 06:22.11 | herlo | indeed |
| 06:22.12 | mgeary | i did the OS X equivalent for www.domain.com |
| 06:22.21 | mgeary | but it didn't take |
| 06:22.23 | mgeary | gonna now add domain.com |
| 06:22.32 | herlo | well, are you using FF to test? |
| 06:22.43 | mgeary | can do, why? |
| 06:22.47 | herlo | no, are you? |
| 06:22.58 | mgeary | huh? |
| 06:23.21 | herlo | I don't want to know if you *can* use FF to test it, but rather if you *are* using FF to test your site |
| 06:23.31 | mgeary | safari |
| 06:23.53 | herlo | the reason I ask is that FF has this horrible desire to cache sites. Not sure if safari does |
| 06:23.59 | mgeary | ah |
| 06:24.05 | herlo | and so it might not just be your dns |
| 06:24.09 | mgeary | well, i'm not hitting the site just yet |
| 06:24.15 | mgeary | just using dig to lookup |
| 06:24.29 | mgeary | no point in using a browser til dig returns the correct ip |
| 06:26.11 | herlo | dig doesn't read hosts |
| 06:26.14 | herlo | ping does |
| 06:26.29 | herlo | dig and host only read dns |
| 06:27.54 | mgeary | huh. changed the NetInfo manager, and i'm *still* getting the old IP :/ |
| 06:28.22 | mgeary | via ping & host |
| 06:29.09 | herlo | okay, so dig and host both ignore the /etc/hosts file and only look at /etc/resolv.conf |
| 06:29.35 | herlo | if you are still getting the same ip from ping, then maybe the osx version of ping doesnt read /etc/hosts either |
| 06:32.51 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.54 | mgeary | 2 lines |
| 06:33.03 | mgeary | neither of which are the domain in question :/ |
| 06:54.42 | herlo | right, one says search the other says nameserver |
| 06:55.01 | herlo | mgeary: those are where dig and host look to search for domain names |
| 06:55.11 | mgeary | ah |
| 06:55.13 | herlo | and what server to use to search, respectively |
| 07:21.31 | herlo | the dns countdown! (to the tune of the final countdown!) |
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| 14:47.36 | timinator | ~morning all |
| 14:47.37 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping all in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
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| 15:03.30 | cole_joplin | Is timinator using DW CS3? |
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| 15:04.54 | timinator | nope..... DW MX 2004 Pro |
| 15:05.14 | timinator | as part of the Studio |
| 15:05.25 | timinator | why do you ask? |
| 15:05.35 | cole_joplin | (The from Bevelry hillbillies ringing in my head) |
| 15:06.01 | cole_joplin | I'm having a weird Monday |
| 15:07.21 | mindjuju | people in fast cars should not drive under the speed limit |
| 15:07.41 | mindjuju | ~APB Herlo |
| 15:07.42 | jbot | ACTION summons Tim to rough up Herlo |
| 15:07.56 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm here |
| 15:07.57 | cole_joplin | unless they have only a few points left on their license |
| 15:08.14 | mindjuju | herlo , returning ping from last night |
| 15:08.30 | brasto | who's Tim? |
| 15:08.30 | herlo | k, hang on |
| 15:08.32 | brasto | ~Tim |
| 15:08.33 | jbot | methinks timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 15:08.49 | brasto | ah... that Tim... |
| 15:09.02 | brasto | ~dict apb |
| 15:09.11 | mindjuju | no not that tim |
| 15:09.26 | brasto | timinator then? |
| 15:09.29 | mindjuju | that tim you ~tim 'd about is Tim Riker |
| 15:09.40 | brasto | right |
| 15:09.41 | mindjuju | the tim that roughed up Herlo was Tim from Dog the bounty hunger |
| 15:09.50 | mindjuju | hunter |
| 15:09.51 | mindjuju | i mean |
| 15:09.57 | brasto | ah... |
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| 15:13.02 | mgeary | mornin' |
| 15:13.08 | mgeary | nice fall day out there |
| 15:13.14 | mindjuju | morning mgeary |
| 15:16.37 | herlo | mindjuju: back |
| 15:16.49 | herlo | mindjuju: got icecast working with ices last night, pretty easy |
| 15:17.12 | herlo | mindjuju: when you set up your icecast server system, I'm guessing it was a public IP that BGM has? |
| 15:17.42 | herlo | and the other question I have is, do you use two separate machines, one to record and the other to stream, or is all on one? |
| 15:20.22 | mindjuju | yes |
| 15:20.38 | mindjuju | two separate |
| 15:23.04 | mindjuju | kill -9! kill -9! |
| 15:26.07 | herlo | mindjuju: okay |
| 15:26.16 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm planning on testing that today... |
| 15:26.25 | jsmith | Anybody wanna take a stab at this for me? |
| 15:26.27 | herlo | jsmith: the ll css not to be stupid |
| 15:26.31 | herlo | ~stab css |
| 15:26.32 | jbot | ACTION runs at css with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 15:26.39 | mindjuju | yeah, what you got jsmith |
| 15:26.42 | jsmith | herlo: It's not CSS being stupid... it's me. |
| 15:26.47 | herlo | jsmith: oh... |
| 15:26.52 | jsmith | mindjuju: Go to http://www.asteriskdocs.org/html/ |
| 15:26.52 | herlo | jsmith: okay... |
| 15:27.04 | jsmith | mindjuju: It's not using my stylesheet, and I have no clue why. |
| 15:27.59 | jsmith | If I manually do something like: |
| 15:28.07 | jsmith | <style> |
| 15:28.12 | orsonj | jsmith: s/href/src/ |
| 15:28.41 | orsonj | nm, sorry you have it right |
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| 15:29.07 | orsonj | type="test/css" |
| 15:29.12 | orsonj | s/test/text/ ?? |
| 15:29.25 | jsmith | Ah! |
| 15:29.49 | mindjuju | oh, how funny |
| 15:29.53 | mindjuju | yup, that fixes it |
| 15:30.55 | orsonj | just another argument for "code spellcheck" |
| 15:31.09 | brasto | herlo 's going to the division of motor vehicles? |
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| 15:36.22 | PoeticIntensity | mornin' all. |
| 15:36.32 | PoeticIntensity | trying to wake up, jsmith ? |
| 15:36.57 | mindjuju | heya PI |
| 15:36.59 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Nope... I've been up since 5:00am PST |
| 15:37.19 | PoeticIntensity | ~wave mindjuju |
| 15:37.20 | jbot | Bye, mindjuju |
| 15:37.20 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: You came in late... I had a silly typo that was causing my CSS not to work |
| 15:37.20 | mindjuju | he's hitting himself because he made a small mistake in CSS and orsonj helped him find it |
| 15:37.29 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... |
| 15:37.31 | mindjuju | yup |
| 15:37.36 | PoeticIntensity | ~greet mindjuju |
| 15:37.37 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on mindjuju |
| 15:37.40 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 15:37.47 | mindjuju | thx a heap! |
| 15:37.48 | PoeticIntensity | so much for the nice salutations... |
| 15:42.04 | mindjuju | uhhh, hmmm... i thought boi (pronounced boy) had alternative lifestyle connotations |
| 15:42.47 | mindjuju | not that there couldn't be bois that love rails on our mailing list |
| 15:45.51 | mindjuju | curious, the prefix "fan" ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboi )seems to be negating the sexual preference connotations of the word boi ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boi ) |
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| 16:05.06 | mgeary | i'm using wget to batch-download a bunch of video files. Do i need to worry that it's apparently using a mime type of text/plain? is there a way to force wget into binary mode? |
| 16:05.23 | mgeary | don't see anything in the docs for that |
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| 16:20.35 | SunSparc | wget should just be like a browser and take what the server gives. It is not an FTP client. It is an HTTP client. With HTTP it usually depends on the server to tell the client the content type, unless you force the client. |
| 16:20.51 | _psychic_ | mgeary: sounds like an apache config issue rather than a wget thing |
| 16:34.13 | _psychic_ | condolences. |
| 16:35.05 | wps | boy, the temperature sure dropped off |
| 16:35.09 | wps | its nippy outside |
| 16:35.55 | _psychic_ | I got hail this morning |
| 16:36.15 | mindjuju | who gave you hail, besides Roberto on the mailing list? |
| 16:36.24 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 16:36.26 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 16:36.29 | _psychic_ | That wasn't ice |
| 16:36.31 | _psychic_ | that was flame |
| 16:36.35 | wps | how come everyone is saying "roberto"? |
| 16:36.52 | wps | wasn't it John Taber? |
| 16:36.54 | _psychic_ | that's how his name appears on his messages... ? |
| 16:36.55 | mindjuju | oh, thought that was his name, maybe looked to fast? |
| 16:36.57 | _psychic_ | it was Roberto. |
| 16:37.04 | _psychic_ | John Taber was fine. |
| 16:37.11 | mindjuju | well, it was John Taber question, but Roberto came out with the bat |
| 16:37.31 | wps | I didn't receive any emails in that thread from a "roberto" |
| 16:37.36 | _psychic_ | Taber and I differ in that he thinks PHP is the same as PHP framework |
| 16:37.48 | wps | taber is an alarmist |
| 16:38.09 | wps | I hate to say that but every time he posts it's with his arms in the air screaming armageddon |
| 16:38.19 | wps | he needs to breath in and out a few times before posting |
| 16:39.18 | wps | he is dead wrong in his lumping framworks and languages into the same bucket |
| 16:39.37 | wps | that's stupid |
| 16:40.11 | tierra | http://svnlogbrowser.org/development.htm <- heading for 1.0 target, I'm done with #1, #2, and about 70% done with #4... |
| 16:40.23 | wps | ah, that's why I don't see the message |
| 16:40.32 | wps | Roberto broke the thread… twice |
| 16:40.35 | wps | lart, roberto |
| 16:40.41 | wps | ~art, roberto |
| 16:40.45 | wps | ~lart, roberto |
| 16:41.55 | tierra | on this note, mindjuju want's me to put together a presentation for UPHPU, but I'm still not entirely sure what the main subject of that presentation should be... I have a few ideas, and just want to toss them out, and see what you guys think |
| 16:42.17 | wps | ready to be tossed at |
| 16:42.42 | tierra | mindjuju was thinking something along the lines of svnLogBrowser, which does have a PHP side to it, but it's not really anything impressive I don't think |
| 16:43.03 | wps | hmm… I might be interested in that actually |
| 16:43.23 | wps | I am going to be building a custom deployment tool in October that will be integrated with SVN |
| 16:43.27 | tierra | it uses some basic form processing, some MySQL interaction, but nothing out of the ordinary, other than a pretty crazy GET variable management that I don't think I've seen anywhere else |
| 16:44.03 | tierra | now if people are fine with me just presenting on the project itself, how to set it up, etc... I have no problems with that |
| 16:45.01 | tierra | but I'm hesitant about giving a presentation just plugging my own project, unless people really want to see it |
| 16:48.03 | tierra | some other ideas though... This is the second Open Source project I've founded, and I'm a developer on a third major Open Source project (wxWidgets), so I now have quite a bit of experience with what's involved with setting up, running, and maintaining an Open Source project. I could orient the presentation in that direction, giving examples with all 3 projects |
| 16:49.02 | tierra | not the the 2 projects I've founded have really taken off yet (I haven't even officially announced either one yet, there's still some outstanding issues left on both projects before announcements) |
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| 16:50.08 | tierra | s/the/that |
| 16:51.34 | tierra | since there's a chance that I'll be speaking on svnLogBrowser though, I've gotten back to finishing up preparations for release and announcements, and it's really close to ready now, maybe within the next week or 2 |
| 16:53.24 | mindjuju | tierra, i like the idea of speaking about being an active member of the Open Source community. Maybe your presentation could include some of that |
| 16:53.52 | tierra | now my other project, MediaWiki Publisher, does make use of some more advanced, object-oriented PHP design, and advanced text parsing, and I could present on that instead as well... |
| 16:54.17 | mindjuju | yeah, i remember you talking about Mediawiki at Beto's that one time we ate over there after uphpu meet |
| 16:54.26 | tierra | so there's really 3 options here: svnLogBrowser, Starting an Open Source Project, or MediaWiki Publisher |
| 16:54.49 | mindjuju | i was personally thinking MediaWiki but didn't want to contrain it too tight and give you flexibility |
| 16:55.12 | tierra | or maybe a split presentation where I can cover both svnLogBrowser and open source project management at the same time |
| 16:55.18 | tierra | might be enough time for it |
| 16:55.36 | wps | ~lart my employers IT department's love affair with MS |
| 16:55.36 | jbot | strangles my employers IT department's love affair with MS with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 16:55.42 | tierra | svnLogBrowser is really easy to setup now thanks to my recent work over the last couple days |
| 16:56.01 | thebigdog | have we decided what city we want to do the bbq in? |
| 16:58.20 | beandog | SLC |
| 16:58.21 | beandog | :D |
| 16:58.30 | wps | that's where we had it before |
| 16:58.52 | beandog | really? buh |
| 16:58.57 | wps | at a park… neal macnewbold |
| 16:59.01 | wps | near |
| 16:59.02 | beandog | ~grill thebigdog |
| 16:59.16 | wps | it was near… uh… |
| 16:59.20 | beandog | fairmont park? |
| 16:59.26 | beandog | liberty park? |
| 16:59.28 | beandog | pioneer park? |
| 16:59.36 | tierra | we held it at Fairmont Park last time |
| 16:59.42 | beandog | fairmont park++ |
| 16:59.43 | wps | fairmont sounds irght |
| 16:59.45 | beandog | great skate park |
| 16:59.55 | wps | what's that area called when you're headed East on I-80 and you get off near 1300 |
| 16:59.56 | wps | ? |
| 17:00.02 | beandog | sugarhouse |
| 17:00.05 | wps | yes, sugarhouse |
| 17:00.08 | wps | the park was near there |
| 17:00.13 | beandog | thats fairmont |
| 17:00.21 | wps | Josh was there |
| 17:00.22 | beandog | thats like 5 blocks from my house |
| 17:00.25 | beandog | woo woo |
| 17:00.58 | wps | and it seems like someone's kid threw up |
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| 17:20.13 | wps | ~nAmir |
| 17:31.01 | mindjuju | k, just tested again and the app appears to be working, so i think we are in the clear on this one. |
| 17:31.19 | mindjuju | wrong IM window |
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| 17:40.09 | mindjuju | wow, is ogden that bad? |
| 17:40.56 | wps | ogden is the compton of Utah |
| 17:41.12 | wps | :) |
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| 17:41.51 | orsonj | It may depend on which part of ogden you are in, but there are parts where I would not go after/near dark. |
| 17:42.17 | mindjuju | wow |
| 17:42.19 | orsonj | I have had relatives living in those parts, and they only let us visit during daylight |
| 17:42.54 | SunSparc | Ogden city is trying to clean that up though, from what I hear. |
| 17:42.55 | orsonj | once they got better paying jobs, they left |
| 17:43.07 | orsonj | As I said, it may be only in parts though. |
| 17:47.51 | cole_joplin | Anyone interested in full-time or part-time PHP work? |
| 17:47.58 | cole_joplin | I have a guy chatting with me now |
| 17:48.03 | cole_joplin | I don't have the time |
| 17:48.36 | cole_joplin | Any takers? |
| 17:48.57 | mindjuju | cole_joplin -- can you post information wps |
| 17:52.15 | wps | I might be, cole_joplin |
| 17:52.32 | cole_joplin | Ok |
| 17:52.43 | cole_joplin | I'll post an email in the mailing list |
| 17:52.46 | wps | k |
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| 17:53.25 | cole_joplin | great, he's looking for PHP backend, and some AJAX/CSS front-end |
| 17:58.30 | cole_joplin | OK, just posted it to the list |
| 17:58.46 | macnewbold | ~greet everyone |
| 17:58.47 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on everyone |
| 17:59.35 | wps | TMI |
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| 18:16.05 | timinator | ~wiki TMI |
| 18:20.50 | tierra | heh, one of my sites that sees ~800 visits/month, ~200 abs unique visits (this site has high loyalty marks) returns with 77.25% being Firefox, and 7.90% being IE |
| 18:21.10 | tierra | I love seeing numbers like that |
| 18:23.26 | tierra | I should probably qualify that with: 62.6% are on Windows, 26.3% on Linux, 10.6% on Mac |
| 18:23.47 | tierra | but yeah, still great Firefox numbers for 62% Windows users |
| 18:28.25 | tierra | unfortunately, I run another site with ~400 unique visits/mo with 90% Windows that is the opposite, 75% IE users, 16.6% Firefox |
| 18:28.52 | mindjuju | tierra, what's the purpose of the other site? |
| 18:29.42 | mindjuju | by that i was wondering if the main theme of the website is encouraging more IE people |
| 18:29.54 | tierra | it's wx.ibaku.net (my personal wxWidgets work that hasn't made it onto the official pages, though it's linked on official pages) |
| 18:30.09 | tierra | mostly http://wx.ibaku.net/logo/ and http://wx.ibaku.net/changelog/ |
| 18:30.22 | tierra | and moreso the latter |
| 18:30.26 | tierra | so mostly developers |
| 18:31.47 | mindjuju | curious |
| 18:33.31 | brasto | wps, someone may have said something about this already, but it was not "Roberto", it was "Robert" |
| 18:33.46 | tierra | the official wxWidgets site doesn't get the same numbers though... it's at 60% Firefox, 24.5% IE |
| 18:33.59 | mgeary | mysql question for ya-- |
| 18:34.14 | wps | his email says "roberto" |
| 18:34.21 | wps | http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2007-September/008060.html |
| 18:34.25 | mgeary | i'm on a client's server. don't know much about it. i'm in as root (sudo su), and when i type "mysql" i get right in, with full privs |
| 18:34.29 | wps | and his email address is roberto.mello@ |
| 18:34.38 | mgeary | yet when i show the users, root should have a PW |
| 18:34.44 | mgeary | anyone seen anything like this? |
| 18:34.49 | tierra | but that's 120,000+ visits/month, 72,000+ abs unique visits/month, so that's still impressive I guess |
| 18:36.39 | gruntcoder | mgeary, look for root@localhost to not have password required |
| 18:36.44 | mgeary | i am |
| 18:36.54 | mgeary | Password: *15A968252CD7A4538CC0318DE9EDEFF9CD9DEE3B |
| 18:37.01 | mgeary | i assume it would be blank.... |
| 18:37.04 | mgeary | weird |
| 18:37.18 | gruntcoder | I have seen root need password while root@localhost not - could that be it? |
| 18:38.07 | mgeary | dunno. it's weird |
| 18:38.18 | mgeary | but ultimately, it's not my problem :) |
| 18:38.57 | burnin | anyone here use subversion? |
| 18:39.07 | wps | I do |
| 18:39.07 | tierra | mindjuju: oh sorry, I thought you were asking about the site with more Firefox users |
| 18:39.11 | brasto | so, I'm glad to see that people agree with me that he was... ahem... "not tactfull"... meaning Roberto... |
| 18:39.23 | tierra | the other one is the company I work for http://www.phoenixcpm.com/ |
| 18:39.24 | burnin | I'm curious if a full rewrite of an app should be a branch or if I should just import as a new project. |
| 18:39.52 | brasto | anyone like my comment at the bottom of my post where I said: |
| 18:40.06 | tierra | Windows project scheduling software... target audience is expected to be your typical non-tech Windows user |
| 18:40.23 | brasto | I almost said Mr. Not-So-Mellow instead of Mr. Mello... |
| 18:41.34 | burnin | more of a best practices question than a subversion technical question |
| 18:42.22 | fungus | mgeary: Some admins, put the mysql root password in /etc/my.cnf or /root/.my.cnf to allow for this kind of auto-login |
| 18:42.43 | mgeary | really?? |
| 18:42.50 | mgeary | huh |
| 18:43.14 | mgeary | sure enough |
| 18:43.15 | mgeary | hah |
| 18:43.20 | mgeary | thanks, fungus |
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| 18:43.50 | fungus | Personally I would never put the root password in there, but a special backup, or maintenance user. |
| 18:47.51 | influx^^ | quick hardware question for you folks |
| 18:48.13 | influx^^ | which hard drives are better: seagate or western digital? |
| 18:49.07 | fungus | IMHO, either is ok. As long as they are not Maxtor. |
| 18:49.13 | influx^^ | cool. |
| 18:49.22 | fungus | Both have good warranties. |
| 18:49.28 | wps | see… and I think that that is funny because I think that there isn't one good hard drive |
| 18:49.36 | wps | because you get a different answer from everyone you ask |
| 18:49.48 | influx^^ | ... |
| 18:49.48 | wps | all of my HDs are Maxtor and I haven't ever had one fail on me |
| 18:49.50 | fungus | Exactly, I didn't say "good" I said ok. |
| 18:50.03 | wps | :) |
| 18:51.13 | fungus | I've never used Maxtor in a server environment, but at home (albeit not the best env conditions) I had 2 die in 6 months. |
| 18:52.06 | fungus | They did have pretty good warranties, and great service. Super fast pre-return replacement. |
| 18:52.48 | mgeary | HD warranties are a funny thin |
| 18:52.49 | mgeary | thing |
| 18:53.03 | mgeary | because the cost to replace a drive is so little of the cost of drive failure |
| 18:53.16 | mgeary | even if you have good backups |
| 18:53.31 | fungus | That is so true. |
| 18:54.02 | cycokilr | fujitsu man.. they're the fast ones.. |
| 18:55.51 | fungus | I had a WD die in my laptop... but it was my fault. Playing with super strong rare-earth magnets around hard drives will pull the arm right off the plates. |
| 19:00.34 | brasto | fungus: lol |
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| 19:06.39 | unum | is there a way to round a number in your select statement with postgresql |
| 19:17.13 | unum | ah it's called round.... |
| 19:17.37 | cycokilr | http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/database_guides/Practical_PostgreSQL_database/PostgreSQL_x8973_002.htm |
| 19:17.38 | unum | that was way easeir to find then I had anticipated |
| 19:17.52 | cycokilr | that's a good ref page.. |
| 19:18.43 | wps | some dude in Longon just got busted for doing 175 on a public road |
| 19:19.01 | wps | he works at a luxury car rental place |
| 19:19.11 | cycokilr | where's longon? |
| 19:19.15 | wps | took the porche without permission and is not in jail for two and a half months |
| 19:19.20 | wps | london |
| 19:19.23 | cycokilr | oh.. gotcha.. |
| 19:19.43 | mgeary | 175 Km/H? or 175 MPH? |
| 19:19.43 | thebigdog | burnin i would do a new project in subversion |
| 19:20.34 | _psychic_ | svnadmin create |
| 19:20.48 | wps | not sure, mgeary |
| 19:24.16 | unum | wps: do you use dvorak? |
| 19:24.22 | wps | no |
| 19:39.32 | _psychic_ | what's the colloquy command for doing that? |
| 19:39.40 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.51 | _psychic_ | no dice |
| 19:39.54 | mgeary | but if you're on the latest colloquy you need to install the script manually |
| 19:39.56 | mgeary | one sec |
| 19:40.37 | mindjuju | <evil laugh>Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys</evil laugh> |
| 19:40.49 | mindjuju | just kidding _psychic_ |
| 19:41.10 | _psychic_ | I think I got it |
| 19:41.12 | mgeary | http://colloquy.info/project/browser/trunk/Plug-Ins/iTunes/iTunes.scpt |
| 19:41.22 | mgeary | into: |
| 19:41.25 | mgeary | Library/Application Support/colloquy/plugins |
| 19:41.35 | mgeary | then do: |
| 19:41.36 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.38 | mindjuju | does zapping the pram even still work? |
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| 19:42.06 | mgeary | you didn't have to relaunch |
| 19:42.11 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.15 | mgeary | but oh well :) |
| 19:42.25 | mgeary | workie? |
| 19:42.30 | _psychic_ | now you tell me |
| 19:42.41 | mgeary | ooooh |
| 19:42.41 | mindjuju | good song |
| 19:42.52 | _psychic_ | favorite one we played in pep band |
| 19:43.12 | mgeary | ah. _psychic_ i would have guessed a horn |
| 19:43.22 | mgeary | you strike me as a trumpet/trombone kind of guy |
| 19:43.24 | _psychic_ | I also played clarinet |
| 19:43.28 | _psychic_ | a white one :) |
| 19:43.34 | _psychic_ | and guitar sometimes |
| 19:45.06 | mindjuju | i learned from here http://www.mirrorimage.com/air/ |
| 19:46.08 | _psychic_ | dude - best guitar site evar: www.guitarshredshow.com |
| 19:46.52 | thebigdog | oh yes |
| 19:50.31 | wps | that site is hilarious |
| 19:50.36 | wps | horrible navigation, but hilarious |
| 19:54.04 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 19:54.04 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 19:54.39 | timinator | ~flip back to thebigdog |
| 19:54.39 | jbot | ACTION gives back to thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 19:54.56 | *** part/#uphpu gruntcoder (n=steve@host-114.pl102928.fiber.net) |
| 19:59.16 | brasto | is there a command to get a list of all the terms defined for jbot? |
| 20:00.47 | thebigdog | nope |
| 20:00.53 | thebigdog | for mindjuju |
| 20:15.03 | cole_joplin | ping Black Chaos |
| 20:53.23 | mgeary | can you do a function in a mysql "group by" statement? |
| 20:57.01 | brasto | anyone here use drupal with Organic Groups? |
| 20:57.47 | wps | I created a LinkedIn group for UPHPU. I'll let everyone know when it's approved, so that you can add it to your profile. |
| 20:58.36 | timinator | cool |
| 20:59.15 | brasto | I found an annoying bug... Organic Groups allows people to subscribe to certain groups and get emails when posts are made and associated with those groups. In addition, I have it set so that anyone can make a comment, but anonymous users must wait for me to approve. Today, someone posted a lesbian add on my site, and it was blocked. However, the email notification still got sent with the contents of that post... |
| 20:59.41 | brasto | so, lots of people who know me just got spammed with lesbian links... from me... |
| 21:00.32 | brasto | ~lart drupal code |
| 21:00.32 | jbot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that drupal code is stuck to the floor |
| 21:00.40 | brasto | lol |
| 21:02.19 | beandog | mgeary, should be able to |
| 21:02.30 | brasto | another annoying drupal Organic Groups bug... if you are subscribed to more than one group, and an article belongs to more than one of those groups, you get a copy of the email for every group you belong to that the article also belongs to... |
| 21:02.37 | mgeary | beandog: yeah, but it doesn't use any index :/ |
| 21:02.48 | beandog | poopy. |
| 21:02.52 | beandog | time to use Access. |
| 21:04.49 | mindjuju | In case ya'll don't remember - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaeNelsAOGo |
| 21:05.19 | mgeary | and here i was thinking that was Salt n' Peppa |
| 21:06.09 | tierra | now that a few more people are here now, I'm taking votes on presentation material for the next UPHPU meeting: svnLogBrowser <http://svnlogbrowser.org/>, Starting/Running an Open Source Project, or MediaWiki Publisher <http://mwpublisher.org/> ? |
| 21:06.24 | tierra | a talk on MediaWiki Publisher wouldn't be relevant to many people I don't think |
| 21:06.47 | beandog | #2 |
| 21:07.16 | mindjuju | mediawiki for me |
| 21:08.14 | tierra | I'd probably give #2 with examples from svnLogBrowser |
| 21:12.40 | mindjuju | today's 80's moment is brought to you by Teddy Ruxbin - demented bears that scare the crap out of kids -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktNZpUTMoQ |
| 21:17.03 | brasto | A dude on PLUG just told everyone to properly dispose of a monitor you should break it with a crowbar... |
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| 21:17.45 | brasto | I replied: Alternatively: Put on an all-black outfit, and cover your face with soot. Go outside at night like this, carrying the monitor in a box - painted black. Drop off black box in a random dumpster. Go home and take a shower to wash soot off face. |
| 21:17.53 | brasto | No need to pay for disposal this way. No need to risk touching a plunger in a monitor with potential 10,000 - 20,000 volts ready to rock through your body without prejudice. |
| 21:18.06 | brasto | Seriously, DON'T break your monitor or TV unless you are really trained. In addition, don't dispose of it yourself, there are other toxins than just the voltage, such as Mercury. |
| 21:19.10 | brasto | but, I do like the all-black outfit method... |
| 21:27.35 | orsonj | I wouldn't break a monitor with a crowbar. Now, a rifle, That I could do. |
| 21:27.48 | brasto | lol |
| 21:27.51 | orsonj | (distance from monitor being the key factor) |
| 21:28.05 | brasto | compound bow might be fun... |
| 21:29.09 | orsonj | yep, but only if you haven't been sitting in front of a keyboard so long, your arms can't do it. ;) |
| 21:38.32 | wps | I'm so sick of receiving corporate email with image attachments (from the HTML signature) |
| 21:39.21 | beandog | HTML email should die. |
| 21:39.32 | beandog | Along with those copyright footers that are laughably incorrect. |
| 21:39.58 | mgeary | at the very least, the images should be linked-to |
| 21:39.59 | beandog | This message was for the intended recipient only. If that's not you, please shoot yourself in the face. |
| 21:40.00 | wps | I just received an email from a coworker and there there were nine attachments (making up his signature)… none of which were the two attachments I really wanted |
| 21:40.01 | mgeary | not attached |
| 21:40.29 | wps | my client doesn't not display HTML email, so it all appears as attachments |
| 21:40.48 | thebigdog | ~email wps you are a sezy human |
| 21:40.48 | jbot | okay, thebigdog |
| 21:41.50 | beandog | lol |
| 21:44.27 | mgeary | ~email michael don't forget the pork chops |
| 21:44.34 | mgeary | ~email mgeary don't forget the pork chops |
| 21:44.35 | mgeary | :) |
| 21:46.22 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:46.29 | thebigdog | perhaps we should have bbq @ sundance |
| 21:46.32 | mindjuju | both |
| 21:46.42 | thebigdog | mindjuju is so good |
| 21:47.23 | mindjuju | do you think it'll be cold up there? |
| 21:47.30 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 21:47.32 | thebigdog | hella cold |
| 21:47.36 | thebigdog | perhaps snow |
| 21:47.43 | mindjuju | and you WANT to go up there? |
| 21:47.51 | thebigdog | hehe i love the snow and cold |
| 21:47.53 | mgeary | Timp had snow this morning |
| 21:48.05 | mindjuju | curious |
| 21:48.18 | mindjuju | cold schmold, that's what i say |
| 21:48.43 | mindjuju | is there sledding at sundance ? |
| 21:49.18 | thebigdog | not sure |
| 21:49.23 | mgeary | doubt it |
| 21:49.35 | beandog | theres nowhere to sled |
| 21:49.35 | mgeary | for a long time they didn't allow snowboarding. don't know if they do even now |
| 21:49.38 | beandog | its all trees. |
| 21:49.48 | mgeary | they're pretty stuffy @ Sundance :) |
| 21:50.31 | thebigdog | mgeary is pretty stuffy too |
| 21:50.38 | mgeary | amen to that |
| 21:51.07 | mindjuju | stuffy like snooty or like they bloated? |
| 21:51.32 | thebigdog | snooty and haughty |
| 21:51.52 | mgeary | like, "oh, you mean you actually EAT animals? How barbaric." |
| 21:52.29 | mindjuju | in hawt b/w video goodness |
| 22:04.08 | mindjuju | Chevelle ? Isn't that a car? |
| 22:04.17 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 22:04.29 | thebigdog | that is off the steven king album |
| 22:05.12 | thebigdog | hehe this is better |
| 22:05.28 | mindjuju | psh |
| 22:08.31 | thebigdog | bam...bam |
| 22:09.56 | mindjuju | oops, can't believe i misspelled that |
| 22:09.58 | mindjuju | Megadeth |
| 22:10.03 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:10.40 | mindjuju | can beat megadeth, unless you go something like Helloween or something |
| 22:10.46 | mindjuju | maybe judas priest if you get the right one |
| 22:10.50 | thebigdog | one sec |
| 22:15.38 | mindjuju | ooh, that was a mistake, should have played Everybody needs somebody to love, but didn't see it fast enough |
| 22:16.22 | mindjuju | i love that SNL |
| 22:16.23 | thebigdog | more cowbell |
| 22:17.45 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:24.33 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:25.15 | mindjuju | hehe |
| 22:26.41 | mindjuju | yup that's the one |
| 22:29.30 | thebigdog | they suck |
| 22:29.39 | mindjuju | psh - scorps rock |
| 22:35.41 | mindjuju | you win, i'm outta time, got to finish this conversion from CF to PHP |
| 22:36.25 | thebigdog | hahahahahahaahaha |
| 22:36.37 | thebigdog | ^5 mindjuju |
| 22:37.00 | mindjuju | ^5 |
| 22:39.29 | mindjuju | Whoa! put those back on! |
| 22:40.00 | beandog | are they wonder woman underoos? |
| 22:40.05 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:40.08 | mindjuju | superman |
| 22:40.40 | beandog | http://www.culttelly.co.uk/lyrics/ww.html |
| 22:40.46 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.46 | beandog | Fighting for your rights |
| 22:40.46 | beandog | And the old Red, White and Blue. |
| 22:41.56 | mgeary | great song |
| 22:42.13 | mgeary | "Superman never made any money/Saving the world from Solomon Grundy" |
| 22:42.36 | _psychic_ | you gotta install the plugin |
| 22:42.55 | wps | really? I've never done that in the past and it used to work |
| 22:42.56 | fungus | It used to come installed by default, but not anymore |
| 22:43.02 | wps | ah |
| 22:43.03 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 22:43.04 | _psychic_ | wps: http://colloquy.info/project/ticket/1073 |
| 22:43.21 | wps | I wonder why it was moved to a plug in |
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| 22:46.24 | wps | better |
| 22:46.54 | thebigdog | hehe...usher sucks |
| 22:49.55 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:50.02 | mindjuju | hilarious! |
| 22:50.53 | timinator | for thebigdog: |
| 22:51.03 | timinator | ~pimpslap thebigdog |
| 22:51.03 | jbot | timinator pimpslaps thebigdog. ouch! |
| 22:51.13 | thebigdog | ~tunafart timinator |
| 22:51.14 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to timinator, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 22:51.28 | timinator | ~monkey thebigdog |
| 22:51.29 | jbot | ACTION flings poo at thebigdog |
| 22:52.10 | wps | awesome… I love the paste plugin |
| 22:52.19 | wps | http://colloquy.info/extras/details.php?file=53 |
| 22:52.45 | wps | it automatically puts whatever you have on the clipboard up on a pastebin site and then inserts the URL to it here |
| 22:53.04 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/Xb8Cn717.html (5 lines of PHP) |
| 22:53.07 | timinator | nice |
| 22:53.30 | wps | and it's even a nice pastebin site… something I have been looking for… one without ads and crap |
| 22:53.31 | timinator | THAT ROCKS!!! |
| 22:53.35 | wps | pastebin.ca sucks |
| 22:54.50 | wps | the band Gratitude sucks |
| 22:57.46 | timinator | http://rafb.net/p/jz8Ji840.html (18 lines) |
| 22:57.57 | timinator | NICE |
| 22:58.00 | timinator | that rocks |
| 23:02.41 | brasto | c y'all tomorrow! |
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| 23:04.19 | beandog | slacker! |
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| 23:06.41 | jbot | beats everyone over the head with a microkernel, courtesy of thebigdog |
| 23:06.52 | mgeary | oh ho |
| 23:06.57 | jbot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that mindjuju is stuck to the floor, courtesy of thebigdog |
| 23:07.27 | mindjuju | ~flip thebigdog |
| 23:07.27 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 23:07.41 | jbot | chops mindjuju in half with a free AOL CD, courtesy of thebigdog |
| 23:18.54 | wps | whoa |
| 23:18.55 | timinator | I'm out guys.... later |
| 23:18.58 | wps | Mozy just got bought out |
| 23:19.05 | wps | hot dog |
| 23:19.10 | timinator | Mozy?!?! |
| 23:19.12 | mindjuju | later timinator |
| 23:19.16 | mgeary | oh yeah?? |
| 23:19.25 | wps | good for Josh |
| 23:19.28 | wps | that's awsome |
| 23:19.39 | thebigdog | what is mozy? |
| 23:19.51 | wps | one of the most successful local start ups |
| 23:19.53 | wps | http://mozy.com/ |
| 23:20.03 | unum | they did the programming contests a while back |
| 23:20.04 | wps | OJ simpson in stock photography on the home page :) |
| 23:20.29 | mgeary | hah |
| 23:23.35 | wps | $76 million |
| 23:23.45 | mgeary | that's awesome |
| 23:23.50 | mgeary | by whom? |
| 23:23.57 | mgeary | where're you getting this? |
| 23:23.59 | wps | http://www.emc.com/ |
| 23:24.07 | wps | story: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/23/breaking-online-backup-startup-mozy-acquired-by-emc-for-76-million/ |
| 23:24.42 | thebigdog | not some bad cash |
| 23:24.53 | mgeary | totally |
| 23:25.00 | wps | and they only raised just $1.9 million in capital |
| 23:25.07 | wps | "That’s quite an exit for Mozy - $76 million on just $1.9 million raised" |
| 23:29.17 | fungus | And it seemed only like yesterday when Josh was telling us all about his ideas. |
| 23:29.25 | wps | yeah |
| 23:29.27 | wps | crazy |
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