| 00:18.20 | PoeticIntensity | wow... it's already almost 6:30! |
| 00:18.32 | mindjuju | yup |
| 00:18.37 | mindjuju | what you doing around so late? |
| 00:18.49 | PoeticIntensity | yo... anyone who is in Utah (or near a PCClub), and in need of a *great* hard drive.... |
| 00:18.59 | PoeticIntensity | they're selling a WD 500 G drive for $108.00 |
| 00:19.01 | mindjuju | how big is great? |
| 00:19.19 | mindjuju | man, that's a smoking deal |
| 00:19.35 | mindjuju | alas, i'd prolly had to invoke a loanski from my inlaws to get it |
| 00:19.54 | PoeticIntensity | If I didn't have more than 10 HDs already in my house, I would probably have to jump on this deal. |
| 00:20.08 | mindjuju | between child in school, fiscal solvency and paying down debt, i don't get much allowance money |
| 00:20.22 | PoeticIntensity | good onya, bro. |
| 00:24.48 | PoeticIntensity | I'm just here workin...... Writing a blog post, actually. |
| 00:24.59 | PoeticIntensity | you work this late usually, don't ya mindjuju ? |
| 00:25.10 | mindjuju | yup |
| 00:25.19 | PoeticIntensity | slave labor? |
| 00:25.25 | PoeticIntensity | hourly w/ overtime? |
| 00:25.27 | mindjuju | i switched my schedule around so i get in office now at 8:30a |
| 00:25.38 | PoeticIntensity | and work till.....midnight? |
| 00:25.49 | mindjuju | nah, not anymore |
| 00:25.58 | mindjuju | but 14hr days were norm for a while |
| 00:26.19 | mindjuju | a couple of overnighters coding or rolling out some project |
| 00:26.32 | PoeticIntensity | so.... 8:30am with 1hr lunch, means... leaving at 5:30pm would entail an 8-hour day. |
| 00:26.41 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, that's crazy. |
| 00:26.42 | mindjuju | heh, 1 hr lunch, i wish |
| 00:27.03 | mindjuju | like 2 - 15 minute breaks, which i use to browse the internet |
| 00:27.12 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow, man. |
| 00:27.15 | mindjuju | well, it's my choice, i'm career building right now |
| 00:27.19 | PoeticIntensity | you must really love your job. |
| 00:27.27 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 00:27.27 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 00:27.41 | mindjuju | i've taken my company from streaming mp3s on a real server to full multimedia streaming |
| 00:27.53 | PoeticIntensity | hrm.... |
| 00:28.01 | PoeticIntensity | so "career building" within the same company? |
| 00:28.07 | PoeticIntensity | or within the development sector? |
| 00:28.21 | mindjuju | within the same company, but over several technical areas |
| 00:28.32 | PoeticIntensity | because... I've always considered you to be quite educated... |
| 00:28.39 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... I see. |
| 00:28.55 | mindjuju | so i can do the whole process -- storyboard, video production, compression/fileformat, streaming |
| 00:29.00 | mindjuju | client side player, etc |
| 00:29.09 | PoeticIntensity | sweet! |
| 00:29.21 | mindjuju | yup, hard work, but worth it |
| 00:29.28 | PoeticIntensity | good company? |
| 00:29.33 | mindjuju | yup |
| 00:29.44 | PoeticIntensity | ~cheers mindjuju |
| 00:29.54 | mindjuju | :), thx! |
| 00:29.58 | mindjuju | how bout yourself? |
| 00:30.16 | PoeticIntensity | oh... |
| 00:30.25 | PoeticIntensity | I've been taking the past couple of days off early... |
| 00:30.27 | PoeticIntensity | so I'm working late today. |
| 00:30.41 | PoeticIntensity | but I have a very different idea about "career building" than some... |
| 00:30.50 | PoeticIntensity | I change jobs on average - once per year. |
| 00:30.55 | PoeticIntensity | of my own volition. |
| 00:31.29 | PoeticIntensity | I've found that job switching can yield higher pay than trying to climb the ladder of any given company. |
| 00:31.48 | PoeticIntensity | but... that's just me, and it has inherent risks.... |
| 00:31.58 | PoeticIntensity | but, I've lived by a philosophy which kinda works for me. |
| 00:32.04 | mindjuju | that's cool |
| 00:32.28 | PoeticIntensity | which is.... "If you get up in the morning and you don't want to go to work for more than two weeks, quit. Life is too short." |
| 00:32.34 | mindjuju | must be fun to be at new office, new set of challenges every year |
| 00:32.48 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... It just sorta has worked out that way. |
| 00:33.08 | PoeticIntensity | When I feel shortchanged or anything, it's hard for me to work hard for that company. |
| 00:33.17 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 00:33.18 | PoeticIntensity | or... when another opportunity comes that just feels right, I usually take it. |
| 00:33.25 | PoeticIntensity | however.... |
| 00:33.41 | PoeticIntensity | I believe I've come to a career-plateau. |
| 00:33.51 | mindjuju | how so? |
| 00:34.01 | PoeticIntensity | I doubt very much that I could find anywhere better to work in Utah than where I am currently working. |
| 00:34.14 | PoeticIntensity | started here 3 months ago. |
| 00:34.15 | mindjuju | paywise, enviroment or both? |
| 00:34.21 | PoeticIntensity | both, and more. |
| 00:34.30 | PoeticIntensity | more pay, better environment, boss is amazing... |
| 00:34.35 | PoeticIntensity | potential for growth. |
| 00:34.43 | mindjuju | where do you work at? |
| 00:34.45 | PoeticIntensity | it's kind of surreal... |
| 00:34.49 | PoeticIntensity | Nature's Way in Springville. |
| 00:34.54 | mindjuju | oh yeah |
| 00:35.02 | PoeticIntensity | I've talked about it here before. |
| 00:35.12 | mindjuju | "drop that IIS stuff" guy |
| 00:35.18 | PoeticIntensity | hard work, but very lenient hours.... |
| 00:35.19 | mindjuju | converted all to php |
| 00:35.22 | PoeticIntensity | (yep... precisely) |
| 00:35.39 | PoeticIntensity | almost done with the first web app, in fact, which will be stage 1 in the conversion. |
| 00:35.40 | mindjuju | too cool |
| 00:36.01 | PoeticIntensity | agreed. |
| 00:36.27 | PoeticIntensity | I saw my boss ... uhh... furious today, though. |
| 00:36.34 | PoeticIntensity | ironically enough, it was at the company I'm replacing... |
| 00:36.35 | mindjuju | really? at you? |
| 00:36.44 | mindjuju | ah |
| 00:36.44 | PoeticIntensity | I don't wanna make him mad.... :) |
| 00:36.57 | PoeticIntensity | and so far, he has been nothing but thrilled with the work I'm doing. |
| 00:37.18 | mindjuju | cool that |
| 00:37.55 | PoeticIntensity | yeah.... |
| 00:37.59 | mindjuju | NS would be cool place to work, and way close to my in laws |
| 00:38.10 | PoeticIntensity | who is "NS"? |
| 00:38.21 | mindjuju | oops, i mean NW |
| 00:38.29 | mindjuju | Nature's Way |
| 00:38.29 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... heh... "Nature's Sunshine"... |
| 00:38.37 | mindjuju | is ther a nature sunshine? |
| 00:38.42 | PoeticIntensity | yeah..... (yes)... |
| 00:38.53 | PoeticIntensity | for now, I'm the only guy in the "web development" dept. |
| 00:38.55 | mindjuju | i mean for location, your location would be awesome for my wife |
| 00:39.02 | PoeticIntensity | I hear ya. |
| 00:39.14 | PoeticIntensity | I live in Springville, so... it works out to a point where it's almost "too good to be true". |
| 00:39.15 | mindjuju | her fam is in Mapleton, not far from springville |
| 00:39.20 | PoeticIntensity | oh... I love that place. |
| 00:39.27 | PoeticIntensity | Hopefully someday I can own a home there. |
| 00:39.38 | mindjuju | yeah, that's how it is for me right now. I live on one side of the point, and my work is just on the other side |
| 00:39.50 | PoeticIntensity | not too shabby. |
| 00:40.17 | mindjuju | i figure about another year or a year and a half here, and i'll start looking |
| 00:40.42 | mindjuju | just want to get a solid 3 years managerial w/employee and managerial /major projects |
| 00:41.09 | PoeticIntensity | so you want to be in management? |
| 00:41.23 | mindjuju | you know who i think would be a cool place / person to work for is mac |
| 00:41.37 | PoeticIntensity | I personally know someone who has... |
| 00:41.38 | mindjuju | in management now, but need it to be longer |
| 00:41.41 | PoeticIntensity | and he tells me the same thing. |
| 00:42.16 | mindjuju | full control of colo servers, software, etc |
| 00:42.57 | mindjuju | the funny thing is that i've got a couple of the servers i manage right behind my desk, so that makes my office hot as an oven! |
| 00:43.11 | PoeticIntensity | LOL... I feel ya there. |
| 00:43.21 | PoeticIntensity | I've seen your webcam posts... |
| 00:43.28 | mindjuju | heh |
| 00:43.31 | PoeticIntensity | looks like a tech place, for sure. |
| 00:43.53 | mindjuju | needs a little more geek stuff, then i'll be happy |
| 00:45.27 | herlo | mindjuju: http://collective.utos.org - whatdya think? In early stages, but raring to go..! |
| 00:46.32 | mindjuju | looking really cool |
| 00:46.43 | mindjuju | is MoinMoin pretty good? |
| 00:47.19 | herlo | mindjuju: so far... |
| 00:47.51 | mindjuju | looks cool |
| 00:47.52 | herlo | mindjuju: took me a while to get it working, has a very nice GUI editing piece which I think is what drives people away from other wikis... |
| 00:53.35 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3240&user=1 |
| 00:53.42 | PoeticIntensity | there's my blog-o-the-day |
| 00:53.59 | PoeticIntensity | thought I'd impart some stuff I use to help me build my own computers.... |
| 00:54.03 | PoeticIntensity | stuff = tools |
| 00:54.15 | PoeticIntensity | anywho... I'm outta here. |
| 00:54.24 | PoeticIntensity | chat atch all tomorrow! |
| 00:54.56 | mindjuju | cya! |
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| 03:34.57 | mindjuju | 27minutes.27seconds if you're going max speed the whole time |
| 03:45.47 | mindjuju | wow, 1 petabyte over 56k would take 5,100 years, assuming max speed and no problems |
| 04:19.38 | mindjuju | sup tierra |
| 04:21.51 | Black_Chaos | mindjuju: What time would I be able to get into the building for tomorrows meeting? (I might be there a little early) |
| 04:21.59 | Black_Chaos | like 6 or so |
| 04:22.50 | mindjuju | hmm... will still have clients in the building at that time, but if you want you could prolly hid out in my office or the adjacent office |
| 04:23.22 | mindjuju | i don't usually start to setup until like 6:20 or so |
| 04:23.52 | Black_Chaos | ok maybe I'll just sit out in my car and see if I can find a wireless signal till then :) |
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| 14:19.09 | timinator | you guys see this: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/business/20nbc-web.html?ei=5090&en=929d4d7c27817dfe&ex=1347854400&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1190297227-AcU0sRiSO2gSIWIVJu+iKQ |
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| 14:38.47 | Utah_Dave | timinator: Gosh, I've been saying they should do that for a long time |
| 14:39.02 | timinator | fo sho |
| 14:39.11 | Utah_Dave | Just leave the stupid commercials in the video. I think it's crappy that you can't skip the commercials, though |
| 14:43.03 | jsmith | Utah_Dave: And that the shows automatically expire... |
| 14:43.11 | jsmith | Utah_Dave: ... and that you can't watch them on Mac or Linux |
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| 14:49.38 | mindjuju | i think they are responding to the fiasco of leaving iTunes |
| 14:49.46 | mindjuju | and apparently are using some homebrew app |
| 14:50.42 | Utah_Dave | jsmith: so true |
| 14:51.00 | Utah_Dave | They're competing against getting the videos free from my coworker or downloading them |
| 14:51.22 | mindjuju | i sure don't feel like downloading yet another video player to watch their shows |
| 14:51.26 | Utah_Dave | they should just make non-drm'ed avi's with the commercials left in |
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| 14:51.37 | mindjuju | yeah, totally agree utah_dave |
| 14:51.44 | Utah_Dave | some of the commercials will get watched and some will get skipped. |
| 14:51.58 | Utah_Dave | just like in real TV |
| 14:53.02 | orsonj | It took just over an hour actually (my 11M download) |
| 14:53.25 | mindjuju | oh, for that download? |
| 14:53.27 | orsonj | so, a petabyte would probably take 10,000 years |
| 14:53.45 | mindjuju | yeah, nobody really ever connects at 56k, |
| 14:53.59 | mindjuju | i think the highest i ever got was 48 on a 56 modem |
| 14:54.04 | mindjuju | and that was connect speed |
| 14:54.08 | mindjuju | not data transfer |
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| 14:59.09 | mgeary | morgen |
| 14:59.19 | mindjuju | sup |
| 15:00.04 | mgeary | not enough time, too much to do. the usual |
| 15:00.26 | mindjuju | yup, know the feeling |
| 15:10.29 | mgeary | i like Heroes |
| 15:10.36 | mgeary | but i watched them via iTunes last year |
| 15:10.43 | mgeary | made it much easier to schedule in |
| 15:11.27 | mindjuju | what's it about? |
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| 15:12.01 | thebigdog | oh yeah...chilli cookoff today |
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| 15:13.33 | mindjuju | dynamite = non drained fresh pinto beans? |
| 15:15.26 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 15:19.41 | mindjuju | don't know if this is real, but its real funny -- http://www.gilaizen.com/images/kmart.gif |
| 15:19.51 | mindjuju | k, that's enough foolin' around, got to get some work done |
| 15:23.49 | unum | so I'm interested in how you all do security on your databases |
| 15:24.26 | thebigdog | unum, what questions you have? |
| 15:24.35 | unum | do you allow local trust |
| 15:24.40 | thebigdog | no |
| 15:24.48 | unum | how do you do backups? |
| 15:25.00 | unum | I guess I could just allow one user to be trusted |
| 15:25.03 | jsmith | new database group? |
| 15:25.19 | unum | jsmith: it was mentioned on the list a few days ago |
| 15:25.51 | unum | so do set each host that needs access to use password |
| 15:25.54 | unum | or md5 |
| 15:25.59 | unum | or something else |
| 15:26.47 | unum | I meant ident sameuser not trust |
| 15:26.49 | unum | oops |
| 15:27.06 | unum | I had no idea I had left the database so wide open |
| 15:28.55 | unum | I guess I wasn't being very careful since it was a development server |
| 15:29.15 | mgeary | unum: so you allowed access to the DB from localhost with no password? or what? |
| 15:29.34 | unum | mgeary: apparantly |
| 15:29.40 | mgeary | ah |
| 15:29.50 | jsmith | unum: I setup md5 authentication for the backup user |
| 15:29.55 | unum | I'm setting up the production server now, I'm going to be a little bit more careful |
| 15:30.04 | unum | jsmith: how does that work? |
| 15:30.20 | jsmith | unum: Postgres? |
| 15:30.36 | unum | jsmith: yes |
| 15:31.28 | orsonj | (re: kmart) http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/spree.asp |
| 15:31.32 | jsmith | unum: OK, go into pg_hba.conf (/var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf on most systems) |
| 15:31.37 | jsmith | unum: And do something like this: |
| 15:31.40 | unum | there |
| 15:32.25 | jsmith | host all backup 127.0.0.1/32 md5 |
| 15:33.05 | jsmith | That's saying that if people connect over a TCP connection from localhost, that the user named "backup" is forced to authenticate via MD5, and that he can login to all the databases |
| 15:33.46 | unum | but then what do you do in your script |
| 15:34.07 | unum | do you have the password there but then have the script set to readonly by root |
| 15:36.27 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 15:36.50 | unum | and when I set up a database who should the owner be |
| 15:37.13 | unum | should I create a new user to be the owner and one to run the scripts as |
| 15:37.28 | unum | or is ok for my user to be the owner |
| 15:38.04 | unum | I have no idea what best practices are when it comes to databases |
| 15:38.42 | unum | or should the postgres user be the owner? |
| 15:38.50 | unum | that one doesn't seem right |
| 15:41.04 | thebigdog | i usually create a couple users |
| 15:41.06 | thebigdog | i have the owner |
| 15:41.12 | thebigdog | then i will create accessing users |
| 15:41.22 | thebigdog | depends on the database and what i am using it for |
| 15:41.28 | thebigdog | but i will have a readonly user |
| 15:41.36 | thebigdog | and a user that can do crud |
| 15:42.16 | thebigdog | i also change the passwords on a regular basis |
| 15:42.36 | thebigdog | and i set a password for postgres user |
| 15:42.51 | thebigdog | i dont allow postgres access other than local |
| 15:43.17 | thebigdog | and i limit the remote access to ip addresses and users |
| 15:43.46 | unum | I hadn't thought about setting a password for postgres, is that common to do |
| 15:43.54 | unum | I could see why you would want to |
| 15:44.01 | thebigdog | not sure about that...i dont think many do though |
| 15:44.29 | thebigdog | postgres has access to everything...he is the root of the db |
| 15:44.31 | unum | eventually ssn's will be stored in this database, so I'm trying to be careful |
| 15:44.53 | unum | I need to make sure selinux is turned on... |
| 15:45.02 | unum | slug had a good meeting on that last night |
| 15:46.06 | thebigdog | if you turn it on...make sure you use it |
| 15:50.05 | thebigdog | anyone ever heard of ozomatli? |
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| 15:51.21 | mindjuju | of course |
| 15:51.26 | mindjuju | do you have some over there? |
| 15:51.31 | thebigdog | i do know |
| 15:51.34 | thebigdog | now |
| 15:51.48 | mindjuju | have you heard cumbia de la muerte? |
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| 15:54.10 | mindjuju | oops, that's Cumbia De Los Muertos |
| 15:54.23 | mindjuju | i've always had a prob keeping my genders right |
| 15:55.23 | PoeticIntensity | umm... I believe cumbia is feminine. |
| 15:55.26 | PoeticIntensity | la cumbia. |
| 15:55.59 | PoeticIntensity | and isn't that a dance originating from the coasts of Colombia? |
| 15:56.00 | mindjuju | was meaning muerte though |
| 15:56.14 | PoeticIntensity | le muerte was also correct. |
| 15:56.21 | PoeticIntensity | er... la muerte. |
| 15:56.34 | mindjuju | was it? |
| 15:56.40 | PoeticIntensity | because as morbid as it may be, muerte is also feminine. |
| 15:56.51 | Utah_Dave | that's my main beef with Spanish. You have to remember the gender of every stinking object in the whole world |
| 15:57.00 | Utah_Dave | and some can be both genders |
| 15:57.06 | PoeticIntensity | really? |
| 15:57.10 | mindjuju | yeah, like what the heck is bread? |
| 15:57.12 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't know some can be both... |
| 15:57.13 | Utah_Dave | and some have different meanings or inflections depending on the gender |
| 15:57.15 | mindjuju | La Pan or El Pan ? |
| 15:57.18 | Utah_Dave | El Pan |
| 15:57.24 | Utah_Dave | bread is male |
| 15:57.28 | Utah_Dave | pancito |
| 15:57.32 | Utah_Dave | little male bread |
| 15:57.34 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 15:57.45 | mindjuju | bread is masculine? who knew? |
| 15:57.59 | PoeticIntensity | If I were to be learning English from Spanish, I'm pretty sure I'd have more beefs with English... |
| 15:58.10 | mindjuju | La computadora |
| 15:58.17 | PoeticIntensity | or.... |
| 15:58.21 | PoeticIntensity | El Ordenador. |
| 15:58.25 | PoeticIntensity | (computer also) |
| 15:58.42 | thebigdog | cause men made the computer |
| 15:58.53 | mindjuju | yeah, but women make bread |
| 15:58.56 | mindjuju | so La Pan |
| 15:59.02 | PoeticIntensity | El Pan. |
| 15:59.02 | thebigdog | no |
| 15:59.51 | Utah_Dave | but then you can have el mar or la mar |
| 15:59.56 | Utah_Dave | either one works |
| 16:00.03 | PoeticIntensity | weird. |
| 16:00.04 | unum | men wear ties, they are femnine women wear dresses they are masculine |
| 16:00.07 | thebigdog | el mar |
| 16:00.25 | mindjuju | oh yeah, tie is femine |
| 16:00.49 | Utah_Dave | I remember when I realized I was going to have to memorize the gender of every freaking object in the world |
| 16:00.51 | mindjuju | la vistida : el vistida |
| 16:00.52 | Utah_Dave | I was so ticked |
| 16:00.59 | Utah_Dave | el vestido |
| 16:01.54 | mindjuju | curious |
| 16:02.13 | mindjuju | i wonder if everything is genderified, or if there are some things without genders yet |
| 16:02.20 | mindjuju | like La AOL |
| 16:02.22 | thebigdog | there is a rule somewhere for it |
| 16:02.25 | mindjuju | or EL Comcast |
| 16:03.24 | Utah_Dave | yeah, I think there is some rule. But nobody knows what it is |
| 16:03.39 | mindjuju | La AOL sux! |
| 16:03.43 | Utah_Dave | they just "know" what the genders are because the grew up with it |
| 16:04.37 | mindjuju | yeah, but who determines? is it a committee under the UN? |
| 16:04.54 | mindjuju | is it automated or do they have a dart board? |
| 16:05.18 | thebigdog | rule is the ending of the noun in question |
| 16:05.48 | mindjuju | so in the case of AOL, since no vowel must be... |
| 16:05.51 | mindjuju | La AOL |
| 16:05.53 | thebigdog | Nouns ending in -dad, -tad, -tud, -umbre, -ción and -sión are generally feminine |
| 16:06.04 | thebigdog | Masculine nouns that end in a consonant often have a corresponding feminine |
| 16:06.17 | thebigdog | Four of the nouns ending in -a are masculine and must be memorized |
| 16:06.41 | thebigdog | A few nouns ending in -o are feminine |
| 16:07.04 | mindjuju | hmm... i think i like chinese best |
| 16:07.21 | mindjuju | the spoken is really simple |
| 16:07.42 | mindjuju | writing has a lot of rules and is hard |
| 16:07.53 | wps | what's the best way to compare dates? |
| 16:08.45 | thebigdog | with a calendar |
| 16:09.03 | thebigdog | el problema always got me |
| 16:09.14 | thebigdog | and el programa |
| 16:09.43 | mindjuju | i wonder why they want those to be masculine? |
| 16:09.48 | wps | should I convert something that looks like '2007-09-10' into a unix time stamp using strtotime() before comparing two values? |
| 16:09.57 | thebigdog | mindjuju, just the way it is |
| 16:09.58 | wps | if($date_1 < $date_2) |
| 16:10.02 | thebigdog | that is the last rule i learned |
| 16:10.10 | thebigdog | jtwis |
| 16:10.51 | PoeticIntensity | wps, sure. |
| 16:11.12 | PoeticIntensity | comparing timestamps is a good way to go, if you want *extreme* detail in your date.... (up to the millisecond) |
| 16:11.47 | PoeticIntensity | I guess it depends on how detailed ya wanna go. |
| 16:11.56 | wps | I don't need that level of detail |
| 16:12.02 | mindjuju | but the comparison is only there if he originally stored it as a unix timestamp |
| 16:12.13 | wps | right |
| 16:12.20 | wps | I'm just trying to figure out why it's not recognizing a as being less than b |
| 16:13.03 | wps | should I remove the dashes and compare then as numbers instead of strings? |
| 16:17.31 | PoeticIntensity | what are the two dates you're comparing?\ |
| 16:21.21 | mindjuju | wps, you're right on going to Unix on that |
| 16:21.33 | mindjuju | here is article on comparing dates |
| 16:21.37 | mindjuju | http://www.highlystructured.com/comparing_dates_php.html |
| 16:21.45 | wps | compare '2007-09-01' and '2007-09-02' |
| 16:22.34 | thebigdog | wps you might want to get a compare function for dates |
| 16:23.06 | mindjuju | well, check out the article first |
| 16:23.29 | mindjuju | he goes in a cool direction and answers the direction i was giong to say about exploding on the hypen and comparing |
| 16:23.30 | wps | k |
| 16:24.08 | PoeticIntensity | I say just get rid of the hypens and compare the numbers... :) |
| 16:24.28 | PoeticIntensity | or convert to timestamp. |
| 16:34.06 | jsmith | Why 10:00? |
| 16:35.17 | mindjuju | because 42:42:42 isn't available ? |
| 16:35.24 | wps | what are you doing there, timinator ? |
| 16:35.41 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Ouch... stop that! |
| 16:35.51 | timinator | 1 sec |
| 16:38.18 | timinator | k, I'm free |
| 16:38.33 | timinator | so, about the 10 oclock |
| 16:39.42 | timinator | I, personally, use that so that I can compare days w/o worring about daylight savings times, or timezone differences or anything..... also, it's easy to type.... 1, then 0s and colons |
| 16:40.28 | Utah_Dave | wps: always convert to unix timestamps if the dates are always going to be after the Unix Epoch |
| 16:40.35 | timinator | but, all of my software that use that is used in the states |
| 16:41.06 | timinator | like he said earlier, it depends on how detailed you want to get |
| 16:41.35 | Utah_Dave | a regular unix timestamp only goes down to the second |
| 16:41.56 | timinator | right |
| 16:42.26 | timinator | and if you want to get more detailed on the timezones, use mktime, like we talked about yesterday |
| 16:43.02 | timinator | I just like my system cause it's quick and dirty |
| 16:47.00 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: you're presenting tonight, right? |
| 16:48.46 | Utah_Dave | I've got two co-workers coming |
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| 16:54.12 | thebigdog | wps in our old code i have some examples of multi sorting |
| 16:55.48 | wps | k |
| 17:18.20 | wps | what is the name for "titles" that people put before their names? |
| 17:18.23 | wps | Dr. |
| 17:18.28 | wps | Mr. |
| 17:18.31 | wps | Mrs. |
| 17:18.34 | wps | etc |
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| 17:21.29 | timinator | surnames |
| 17:21.56 | wps | thanks |
| 17:24.17 | timinator | hmmm... I guess that's incorrect |
| 17:24.20 | timinator | sorry wps |
| 17:27.26 | timinator | ~wiki English Honorific |
| 17:29.35 | timinator | after several wikipedia searches, they refer to it as a title or abbreviation |
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| 17:30.32 | Utah_Dave | wps: title |
| 17:31.19 | fungus | surname = last name |
| 17:31.21 | wps | that sounds right |
| 17:31.37 | fungus | given or christian name is the first name |
| 17:31.42 | timinator | I learned it incorrectly, sorry |
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| 18:32.56 | wps | how large of a number can you store inside of a tinyint? |
| 18:33.02 | wps | 127? |
| 18:33.50 | beandog | thats signed |
| 18:33.54 | beandog | if its unsigned, 255 |
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| 18:41.00 | mindjuju | so thebigdog , have you heard Cumbia De Los Muertos ? - ozomatli |
| 18:47.04 | thebigdog | nope |
| 18:47.08 | thebigdog | i have the new album |
| 18:50.36 | *** topic/#UPHPU by theblingking -> TONIGHT ONLY - Mac Newbold - SQL and PHP | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | theblingking is the chili cookoff champion |
| 18:56.59 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: delayed answer: yes, I am - hopefully it will be worth while |
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| 19:03.48 | theblingking | its all about the chili and bling |
| 19:03.56 | theblingking | drip where's my pic |
| 19:05.03 | drip | I'll get it to you. |
| 19:05.08 | drip | a moment please. |
| 19:05.08 | theblingking | k |
| 19:05.18 | theblingking | un momento si |
| 19:09.53 | beandog | chili and bling? |
| 19:14.34 | theblingking | beandog, when you are the champ it is both |
| 19:14.47 | beandog | I'm the champ? |
| 19:14.54 | theblingking | i am |
| 19:14.57 | beandog | oh |
| 19:14.59 | beandog | says who |
| 19:15.10 | theblingking | say my crown |
| 19:16.02 | beandog | ~crown theblingking |
| 19:16.03 | jbot | ACTION takes the crown and claim Hoorays to the new Queen theblingking! |
| 19:16.13 | theblingking | ~hail theblingking |
| 19:16.14 | jbot | ACTION bows down to theblingking and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:20.44 | theblingking | http://thebigdog.biz/theblingking.jpg |
| 19:21.00 | theblingking | ~hail theblingking |
| 19:21.01 | jbot | ACTION bows down to theblingking and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:21.08 | beandog | now thats inspiring |
| 19:21.22 | mgeary | what's that you're holding? A Snickerdoodle? |
| 19:21.22 | theblingking | thats the bling my good friend beandog |
| 19:21.30 | theblingking | mgeary, why yes |
| 19:21.34 | mgeary | nailed ya |
| 19:22.14 | drip | ha ha ha |
| 19:22.33 | theblingking | oh yeah |
| 19:22.42 | beandog | mm, snickerdoodles |
| 19:22.44 | beandog | I wants one |
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| 19:23.54 | theblingking | they are good |
| 19:24.04 | timinator | LOL bigdog |
| 19:24.24 | theblingking | i love to "chunk the duece" as they say in houston |
| 19:24.59 | theblingking | i brought the texas chili goodness |
| 19:26.12 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... so that's theblingking, eh'? |
| 19:26.30 | theblingking | :) |
| 19:27.00 | PoeticIntensity | nice goatee, BTW. |
| 19:27.20 | beandog | I have to wonder where you found the crown |
| 19:28.02 | theblingking | HR |
| 19:28.04 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, you can't has snickerdoodles. |
| 19:29.03 | beandog | :C |
| 19:39.44 | theblingking | ouch |
| 19:42.34 | theblingking | mindjuju would have loved my texas chili |
| 19:42.45 | theblingking | ~serve mindjuju a bowl of chilli |
| 19:42.45 | jbot | ACTION cooks up a 6 course meal, made from the very best ingredients and containing all the favorite foods of mindjuju a bowl of chilli, and then serves it to mindjuju a bowl of chilli on the best china & using the best crystal and silver |
| 19:48.50 | theblingking | ~wake mindjuju |
| 19:48.50 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mindjuju and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 19:50.04 | decriptor | I feel so weird in here :P |
| 19:50.18 | cole_joplin | Must be the chili |
| 19:50.39 | theblingking | aye |
| 19:51.02 | orsonj | ~cookie decriptor |
| 19:51.41 | orsonj | hmmm. I forget the cookie one |
| 19:51.43 | cole_joplin | I wasn't on the channel much yesterday, but did anyone talk like a pirate? |
| 19:52.00 | theblingking | cole_joplin, i did for a while |
| 19:52.34 | decriptor | mindjuju: pin |
| 19:52.35 | cole_joplin | cool, some of us at work were doing that in our meetings |
| 19:52.35 | decriptor | g |
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| 19:53.52 | decriptor | Chembro783: hey, what's up |
| 19:54.01 | Chembro783 | Hey D |
| 19:54.02 | mindjuju | i'm here theblingking , had to step into a meeting |
| 19:54.09 | theblingking | oh |
| 19:54.12 | mindjuju | ~APB decriptor |
| 19:54.13 | jbot | ACTION hires Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at decriptor |
| 19:54.15 | theblingking | mindjuju pm |
| 19:54.19 | decriptor | mindjuju: sure just ignore me :P |
| 19:54.28 | mindjuju | i just put apb out for ya |
| 19:54.36 | decriptor | oh |
| 19:54.40 | decriptor | sorry missed that |
| 19:55.20 | mindjuju | @ decriptor - sup bro! |
| 19:55.32 | decriptor | mindjuju: not much |
| 19:55.40 | decriptor | just bring a friend in here to get some help |
| 19:55.49 | decriptor | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.06 | decriptor | mindjuju: he's one of those php guys :P |
| 19:56.20 | Chembro783 | I'm trying to see if I can get on with my iPhone |
| 19:56.28 | mindjuju | welcome Chembro783 |
| 19:56.33 | Chembro783 | Thanks. |
| 19:57.10 | decriptor | anyways I should get out of here before I cause too much trouble |
| 19:57.18 | decriptor | mindjuju: I'll catch you later |
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| 20:06.01 | theblingking | can anyone hit w3schools |
| 20:06.14 | wps | sheesh |
| 20:06.20 | mindjuju | nope |
| 20:06.22 | wps | I always forget the breaks when I build a switch |
| 20:12.06 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity - just catch the broadcast |
| 20:12.18 | PoeticIntensity | I won't be near my computer.... |
| 20:12.22 | PoeticIntensity | unless I put one in my car. |
| 20:12.22 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 20:12.26 | mindjuju | oh |
| 20:12.28 | mindjuju | got me there |
| 20:13.19 | PoeticIntensity | me and a friend are going driving... |
| 20:13.29 | PoeticIntensity | I wasn't thinking when I said "This Thursday will work". |
| 20:13.37 | PoeticIntensity | if he cancels, I'll be at the meetin'. |
| 20:14.32 | PoeticIntensity | He has a 2007 Porsche..... |
| 20:14.38 | PoeticIntensity | He wants to teach me how to corner better... |
| 20:14.45 | PoeticIntensity | I couldn't say no to that. |
| 20:14.58 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 20:15.07 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 20:15.08 | macnewbold | is that Richard (was that his name?) |
| 20:15.12 | PoeticIntensity | you got it. |
| 20:15.59 | PoeticIntensity | did you know that he ended up going to the flats that day? |
| 20:15.59 | PoeticIntensity | he arrived about 20 minutes after we did... |
| 20:15.59 | PoeticIntensity | and since there was that much water, he thought we all had left. |
| 20:15.59 | PoeticIntensity | I wanted to kill myself.... |
| 20:15.59 | PoeticIntensity | man.. that would have been awesome. |
| 20:16.07 | macnewbold | no way |
| 20:16.09 | macnewbold | that's too bad |
| 20:16.12 | PoeticIntensity | tell me about it... |
| 20:16.14 | PoeticIntensity | he was mad. |
| 20:16.16 | macnewbold | I bet |
| 20:16.18 | macnewbold | doh |
| 20:16.26 | PoeticIntensity | he spent an hour just driving that roadway right before the flats... |
| 20:16.29 | PoeticIntensity | said he got going 150 on it. |
| 20:16.33 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 20:16.38 | PoeticIntensity | if he'd only arrived like.. 10 minutes earlier. |
| 20:16.44 | PoeticIntensity | he would have seen us driving out on the water. |
| 20:16.55 | PoeticIntensity | craziness. |
| 20:16.58 | macnewbold | one of our new guys here has a mitsubishi spider convertible, I might try and convince him to come out there one time with us |
| 20:17.06 | macnewbold | I might be able to beat him in the hybrid... ;) |
| 20:17.25 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.... heck yeah! |
| 20:17.31 | PoeticIntensity | and you just might... |
| 20:17.37 | PoeticIntensity | that thing was amazingly quick. |
| 20:17.43 | macnewbold | well, better get my slides finished up... crazy crazy times |
| 20:17.48 | macnewbold | yeah, I have a ton of fun with it |
| 20:17.52 | macnewbold | offroading and stuff even |
| 20:18.00 | PoeticIntensity | a'ight.... good luck tonight, if I don't end up making it. |
| 20:18.50 | macnewbold | thanks man |
| 20:19.25 | macnewbold | if you do end up making it, we at Code Greene are sponsoring pizza, drinks, and cookies, along with a fun presentation to invite job applicants |
| 20:19.50 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 20:19.58 | PoeticIntensity | starts at 6:30? |
| 20:20.05 | macnewbold | 7 |
| 20:20.08 | beandog | cookies? |
| 20:20.15 | macnewbold | that part will be 8 or 8:30 probably\ |
| 20:20.17 | PoeticIntensity | k.... |
| 20:20.20 | PoeticIntensity | here's to hopin'! |
| 20:20.31 | macnewbold | yep, not snickerdoodles, but frosted sugar cookies |
| 20:20.40 | mindjuju | frosted? |
| 20:20.41 | beandog | buh |
| 20:20.46 | beandog | frosting is good for the soul. |
| 20:20.51 | mindjuju | true that |
| 20:20.55 | beandog | and the arteries. |
| 20:20.59 | macnewbold | yep, frosted with a big green "CG" on the front |
| 20:21.16 | macnewbold | cause on the back side of the cookie it would be quite messy |
| 20:21.48 | macnewbold | we've got a Dave-Letterman-Style top 10 list about why people should come work here |
| 20:21.50 | mindjuju | you know, i was thinking about Black_Chaos's request of coming early, i think i'll open the doors 30 min early and play the second half of Pink Floyd Pulse concert |
| 20:21.55 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 20:22.03 | macnewbold | the pizza guy will be coming a few minutes early too |
| 20:22.05 | theblingking | man i wish firefox's editor would allow for element editing |
| 20:22.41 | macnewbold | try emacs , it can do that |
| 20:22.48 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 20:23.05 | theblingking | i dont think they have emacs for the web |
| 20:23.41 | macnewbold | well, they've got the web in emacs: w3 |
| 20:24.21 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 20:24.57 | wps | can anyone tell me what's wrong with this SQL? |
| 20:24.57 | wps | http://pastebin.ca/705095 |
| 20:26.14 | fungus | Your ORDER BY references a table not in the FROM clause |
| 20:26.46 | PoeticIntensity | good call, fungus . |
| 20:27.02 | wps | indeed |
| 20:27.11 | wps | I removed that and it still doesn't work |
| 20:27.12 | fungus | and it looks like you have "sote_date" for your db in the SELECT clause. |
| 20:27.27 | fungus | sote_data instead of site_data |
| 20:27.43 | wps | new: http://pastebin.ca/705099 |
| 20:29.03 | fungus | Shouldn't the first conditional be the join condition. I am not really sure if it matters though. |
| 20:29.35 | wps | meaning reverse lines 14 and 13? |
| 20:29.38 | fungus | Oh duh. I see it. |
| 20:29.45 | fungus | your quotes are messed up |
| 20:29.52 | fungus | err not |
| 20:30.16 | fungus | yeah, reverse 13 and 14 try that. |
| 20:30.35 | theblingking | that should not matter |
| 20:30.48 | theblingking | why are you accessing the schema? |
| 20:30.57 | wps | why am I what? |
| 20:31.09 | theblingking | site_data is the schema name |
| 20:31.17 | theblingking | what db you on and what is your error |
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| 20:31.37 | wps | site_data is the database name |
| 20:31.55 | theblingking | what db you on? mysql |
| 20:32.06 | wps | ah, yes, MySQL |
| 20:32.29 | theblingking | just use the connection for the db setting |
| 20:32.35 | theblingking | i personally would not put it in the query |
| 20:32.55 | wps | I'd like to, but this is part of a CMS that I didn't write and I have to use a function that does all of the connecting |
| 20:32.58 | theblingking | what is the error yo uare getting |
| 20:34.01 | wps | well, that's the hard part too… I'm not getting any error outputted to the screen and I can't run it in MySQL monitor to test the SQL because this is executed inside of a loop and is dependent on earlier database query results |
| 20:34.41 | wps | :( |
| 20:34.48 | wps | I know… gives you little to work with |
| 20:34.48 | wps | sorry |
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| 20:36.39 | theblingking | if your not getting an error then not sure there is much we can help with |
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| 20:49.21 | theblingking | ~whaleslap mindjuju for his insubordination |
| 20:49.21 | jbot | ACTION beats mindjuju for his insubordination upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:49.36 | mindjuju | hey, what did i do? |
| 20:49.43 | thebigdog | ~rlart |
| 20:49.43 | jbot | whacks jsmith with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:50.20 | theblingking | hehe |
| 20:50.31 | mindjuju | and thus ended the reign of the faux thebigdog |
| 20:50.41 | beandog | and the villagers rejoiced |
| 20:50.44 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.52 | theblingking | ~hail theblingking |
| 20:50.52 | jbot | ACTION bows down to theblingking and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 20:51.01 | jsmith | ~bling theblingking |
| 20:51.26 | mindjuju | boy, i love this box, it's just plug in and go |
| 20:51.33 | jsmith | jbot: bling $bob is <action> flashes his bling at $bob, much to the chagrin of $who |
| 20:51.34 | jbot | jsmith: okay |
| 20:51.37 | jsmith | ~bling theblingking |
| 20:51.38 | jbot | ACTION flashes his bling at theblingking, much to the chagrin of jsmith |
| 20:51.46 | beandog | ~bling mindjuju |
| 20:51.47 | jbot | ACTION flashes his bling at mindjuju, much to the chagrin of beandog |
| 20:51.54 | beandog | er |
| 20:51.57 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 20:51.59 | beandog | jbot is blinging? |
| 20:52.09 | mindjuju | ~bling mindjuju |
| 20:52.09 | jbot | ACTION flashes his bling at mindjuju, much to the chagrin of mindjuju |
| 20:52.29 | mindjuju | ~bling black_chaos |
| 20:52.30 | jbot | ACTION flashes his bling at black_chaos, much to the chagrin of mindjuju |
| 20:53.13 | chembro783 | All bling aside here's a question: What's the easiest way to reorder a column in a mysql table? I've done it with PHP for loops before, but that seems kinda intensive. |
| 20:53.33 | beandog | reorder a column? |
| 20:53.53 | mindjuju | like order by a particular column? |
| 20:54.08 | chembro783 | Yessir. it's for an image gallery. If someone wants to re-order how the images are displayed. There is a column for the ordinal |
| 20:54.47 | chembro783 | So say I want to move an image from the end, to the middle. Everything after that moved image would be order + 1 |
| 20:55.03 | beandog | offset? |
| 20:55.27 | jsmith | UPDATE table SET order = order + 1 WHERE order > 42; |
| 20:55.38 | chembro783 | Hey that's smart :-) |
| 20:55.43 | jsmith | Something like that would work... but you usually don't have an explicit order column |
| 20:56.00 | jsmith | Usually, you just do an "ORDER BY" in your SELECT statement |
| 20:56.13 | wps | nice, I just learned that the CMS has a debug mode |
| 20:56.15 | wps | got my error |
| 20:56.22 | chembro783 | Thnx jsmith. |
| 20:56.36 | jsmith | chembro783: No problem |
| 20:56.39 | jsmith | wps: Which CMS? |
| 20:56.46 | wps | custom in-house |
| 20:58.09 | jsmith | wps: Ah, I don't want it then |
| 20:58.15 | wps | :) |
| 20:58.44 | jsmith | I want something easy to maintain, so that I can set it up for this website and ignore it for the next two years |
| 21:00.26 | orsonj | easy to maintain? just use blogger ;) |
| 21:10.09 | mindjuju | today's 80's moment brought to you by Jello Jigglers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8vV43xBs4 |
| 21:11.11 | Utah_Dave | wps: did you get that query working? |
| 21:11.16 | wps | I did |
| 21:11.18 | Utah_Dave | I was just looking at your last pastebin |
| 21:11.22 | wps | turns out the SQL was all good |
| 21:11.33 | wps | I had a variable name wrong |
| 21:12.19 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 21:14.06 | orsonj | I hate when I do that |
| 21:14.18 | mgeary | well stop doing it |
| 21:19.04 | wps | alright, I have another question about sorting an array |
| 21:19.27 | wps | what's the easiest way to move an element in an array to the first position in the array if it matches a certain criteria? |
| 21:19.40 | wps | use a loop and rebuild the array? or is there a prebuilt function that I can do that with? |
| 21:21.51 | mgeary | is it a linear array, or an assoc. array? |
| 21:23.21 | mgeary | are the keys serialized numbers starting with zero, or are the keys something else? |
| 21:23.22 | theblingking | # vs name |
| 21:24.09 | fungus | $array = array_unshift($array, array_splice($array, $key, 1)); |
| 21:24.23 | wps | they are just 0,1,2, etc |
| 21:24.33 | fungus | array_splice removes the element specified by key and returns it. |
| 21:24.48 | fungus | array_unshift sticks the value at the beginning. |
| 21:25.07 | wps | oo… perfect |
| 21:25.10 | wps | I will try that, fungus |
| 21:25.11 | wps | thanks |
| 21:27.08 | fungus | oh array_splice returns an array of the results. array_unshift won't work here. |
| 21:27.18 | fungus | use array_merge instead |
| 21:27.40 | fungus | $array = array_merge(array_splice($array, $key, 1), $array); |
| 21:37.22 | herlo | you guys had better go defend php in #utah, they seem to think its sucks or something |
| 21:39.48 | theblingking | haha |
| 21:39.55 | theblingking | they just love the perl crap |
| 21:41.18 | theblingking | what are they saying? |
| 21:41.43 | fungus | <Jayce^> php, training wheels without the bike |
| 21:41.50 | theblingking | hehe |
| 21:42.39 | theblingking | sounds like a bunch of windows admins complaining |
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| 21:47.32 | wps | that worked awesome |
| 21:47.34 | wps | thanks, fungus |
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| 21:47.50 | el_gaucho | fungus is good for something! |
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| 21:47.56 | el_gaucho | fungus++ |
| 21:48.09 | fungus | w00t |
| 21:48.10 | el_gaucho | ~karma fungus |
| 21:48.10 | jbot | fungus has karma of 5 |
| 21:48.14 | el_gaucho | aye! |
| 21:48.20 | el_gaucho | ~karma el_gaucho |
| 21:48.20 | jbot | el_gaucho has neutral karma |
| 21:48.30 | el_gaucho | :( |
| 21:48.33 | mindjuju | el_gaucho -- |
| 21:48.43 | el_gaucho | ~karma el_gaucho |
| 21:48.43 | jbot | el_gaucho has neutral karma |
| 21:48.55 | el_gaucho | mindjuju++ |
| 21:49.00 | el_gaucho | ~karma mindjuju |
| 21:49.00 | jbot | mindjuju has karma of 5 |
| 21:49.06 | el_gaucho | mindjuju-- |
| 21:49.15 | el_gaucho | ~karma mindjuju |
| 21:49.15 | jbot | mindjuju has karma of 5 |
| 21:49.28 | mindjuju | ~el_gaucho |
| 21:49.29 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, bigdog_ut is a html and javascript guru!!! |
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| 21:59.03 | beandog | despite all the anti-php arguments |
| 21:59.13 | beandog | it still seems to me like its the most popular web scripting language out there. |
| 21:59.24 | beandog | but, thats from my own anecdotal non-empiricial evidence. |
| 21:59.38 | beandog | I *rarely* see websites powered by perl. |
| 21:59.43 | beandog | its usually php, asp, or asp.x |
| 21:59.49 | beandog | so |
| 21:59.49 | influx^^ | .x? |
| 21:59.50 | beandog | whatever |
| 21:59.51 | fungus | Agreed. |
| 21:59.56 | beandog | dot net |
| 22:00.03 | beandog | I meant aspx |
| 22:00.10 | influx^^ | oh |
| 22:00.29 | beandog | besides, who really cares which language you work with |
| 22:00.53 | beandog | its not like one is going to magically make you write better code, if your goal is the same. |
| 22:01.01 | beandog | anyway |
| 22:09.34 | wps | can you put brackets inside of brackets, like this… |
| 22:09.35 | wps | $webinar['authors'][$webinar['primary_author']]['mug'] |
| 22:09.37 | wps | …? |
| 22:10.28 | fungus | of course you can. it's wonderful stuff |
| 22:10.37 | wps | awesome |
| 22:24.23 | mindjuju | hey, play one of our submarines |
| 22:24.36 | mgeary | huh? |
| 22:24.50 | mindjuju | that's a song on that album, i think |
| 22:25.01 | mindjuju | One of our submarines, or some song about submarines |
| 22:25.04 | mgeary | ah. :/ i only have that song from that album |
| 22:25.43 | mindjuju | ~wiki One_of_our_submarines |
| 22:26.26 | mindjuju | ~wiki One_of_our_Submarines |
| 22:29.05 | mgeary | nice |
| 22:29.16 | mgeary | gotta get that one |
| 22:30.59 | mgeary | ~itunes++ |
| 22:31.16 | mindjuju | i REALLY like that one |
| 22:34.38 | cole_joplin | ping mgeary |
| 22:36.49 | mindjuju | wow, 4:35 this day is almost over |
| 22:38.41 | cole_joplin | ping mgeary |
| 22:41.37 | mgeary | pong |
| 22:41.39 | mgeary | cole_joplin: pong |
| 22:42.09 | mgeary | cole_joplin: which way do your loyalties lie tonight? :) |
| 22:57.32 | mgeary | mindjuju: that song is pretty good |
| 22:57.43 | mgeary | but i prefer Pirate Twins |
| 22:58.11 | mindjuju | havent' heard the thompson twin version |
| 23:03.39 | el_gaucho | beandog, you around? |
| 23:03.57 | beandog | sup |
| 23:04.13 | el_gaucho | you have any ebuilds for handbrake? |
| 23:04.34 | beandog | nope |
| 23:04.37 | beandog | Ive seen em around though |
| 23:04.46 | el_gaucho | k...i have to search for one |
| 23:05.13 | el_gaucho | surprises me that there is not one |
| 23:05.21 | beandog | thats the dvd ripper, right? |
| 23:05.24 | mgeary | this one's for you thebig.. i mean, el_gaucho: |
| 23:05.25 | el_gaucho | y |
| 23:05.39 | el_gaucho | oh yeah |
| 23:05.40 | beandog | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89432 |
| 23:05.43 | beandog | wow thats an old bug |
| 23:06.12 | thebigdog | gratz cycokilr |
| 23:06.25 | cycokilr | thanks.. |
| 23:06.25 | thebigdog | beandog, perhaps you could help me write one i could submit |
| 23:06.32 | mgeary | cycokilr: woot! |
| 23:06.42 | thebigdog | cycokilr, first one? |
| 23:06.44 | cycokilr | i gotta tell you though, those sonogram pics of the spine are freaky looking.. |
| 23:06.56 | cycokilr | this will be my fourth, my wife's first.. |
| 23:06.57 | beandog | thebigdog, yah, bug doesnt look like theres any real reason its not in there |
| 23:06.58 | thebigdog | the 3d ones are crazy |
| 23:07.08 | thebigdog | beandog, yeah |
| 23:07.10 | beandog | thebigdog, lemme know if you find anything recent |
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| 23:07.18 | thebigdog | beandog, will do |
| 23:07.28 | thebigdog | beandog, i will probably check this weekend |
| 23:07.39 | thebigdog | im testing the windows version |
| 23:09.48 | beandog | ah, uses a different make system |
| 23:09.49 | beandog | that could do it. |
| 23:09.58 | thebigdog | what do they use? |
| 23:10.11 | beandog | jam |
| 23:10.45 | thebigdog | i hate perforce |
| 23:10.48 | beandog | oh, ugh |
| 23:10.58 | beandog | this is downloading tarballs and compiling them itself. |
| 23:16.19 | cycokilr | hey, this cigar tastes like bubble gum.. |
| 23:18.05 | timinator | I'm out... later guys |
| 23:18.13 | mindjuju | cya |
| 23:27.57 | mindjuju | i was wondering who'd be savvy enough to speak further on this |
| 23:29.21 | beandog | I want my $2! |
| 23:29.58 | herlo | better of dead! |
| 23:30.22 | herlo | aren't we playing IRC charades? |
| 23:34.06 | mgeary | "i know you don't like all the fat that comes from frying bacon...." |
| 23:34.11 | mgeary | "...so i boiled it" |
| 23:35.10 | beandog | heh |
| 23:35.11 | beandog | thats right |
| 23:35.12 | beandog | I love that mom |
| 23:35.16 | beandog | and her cooking |
| 23:35.20 | beandog | with the jello that crawls off |
| 23:35.27 | mgeary | "french toast"... |
| 23:35.32 | mgeary | "french fries"... |
| 23:35.44 | mgeary | "and to drink, Peru!" |
| 23:36.06 | beandog | heh |
| 23:36.48 | mgeary | "Ricky can't keep his testicles off me", "his what?!?", "you know, an octopus, testicles ...", "Oh, TENTACLES" |
| 23:37.04 | mgeary | John Cusak is awesome |
| 23:38.15 | beandog | heh |
| 23:38.20 | beandog | what kinda car was that anyway |
| 23:38.49 | mgeary | now on THAT you've got me |
| 23:39.22 | beandog | I think it was a Firebird |
| 23:39.36 | mgeary | "consider this: two chinese brothers. One of whom never learned any english. the other one learned english only from listening to Howard Cosell" |
| 23:39.51 | cycokilr | it was a camaro.. |
| 23:39.59 | cycokilr | a 1967 to be exact.. |
| 23:40.31 | cycokilr | http://www.betteroffdeadcamaro.com/ |
| 23:41.10 | beandog | oh man |
| 23:42.01 | beandog | holy crap that looks nice |
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| 23:48.58 | blipX | I hear tell someone in here does Asterisk installs etc in Utah? Salt Lake City area... |
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