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| 01:43.34 | Utah_Dave | funny comment in #ubuntu-utah: |
| 01:43.36 | Utah_Dave | (07:14:25 PM) peno: gentoo nerds do it 1% faster. |
| 02:04.12 | herlo | Utah_Dave: you crack me up |
| 02:05.26 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart herlo |
| 02:05.26 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to herlo, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 02:08.26 | herlo | ~beat Utah_Dave |
| 02:08.27 | jbot | ACTION beats Utah_Dave with a very wet, sticky noodle |
| 02:08.56 | Utah_Dave | ~wedgie herlo |
| 02:08.56 | jbot | ACTION hangs herlo from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 02:09.29 | Utah_Dave | herlo: I walked by Benjamin Franklin's grave on the way to and from work today |
| 02:09.49 | herlo | Utah_Dave: where are you? |
| 02:09.56 | herlo | Philly? |
| 02:09.57 | Utah_Dave | Philladelphia |
| 02:10.05 | Utah_Dave | yep |
| 02:10.13 | herlo | ahh, I've been there before, only once though |
| 02:10.37 | Utah_Dave | pretty cool place. The last time I was here I was like 12 or something |
| 02:13.23 | bradym | i love it when you copy/paste sample code and it doesn't work.... |
| 02:13.42 | bradym | even though it works fine in the sample file you downloaded |
| 02:13.57 | herlo | ~whallop Utah_Dave |
| 02:13.58 | jbot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop Utah_Dave until Utah_Dave whimpers like a little girl! |
| 02:14.26 | Utah_Dave | jbot, are you a girl? |
| 02:16.13 | herlo | Utah_Dave: jbot has always been a girl |
| 02:16.30 | Utah_Dave | didn't realize that. |
| 02:17.03 | influx^^ | jbot, who is influx^^ ? |
| 02:17.05 | jbot | influx^^: I think you lost me on that one |
| 02:17.08 | influx^^ | hmm |
| 02:17.12 | influx^^ | ~influx^^ |
| 02:17.13 | jbot | [influx^^] people |
| 02:17.24 | influx^^ | ~utah_dave |
| 02:17.29 | influx^^ | hurm |
| 02:17.36 | bradym | Utah_Dave: haven't you noticed how violent jbot is? she could only be a girl... |
| 02:17.38 | bradym | :P |
| 02:17.42 | Utah_Dave | hehe |
| 02:17.48 | Utah_Dave | and vindictive! |
| 02:17.52 | bradym | yeah |
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| 03:25.11 | mindjuju | ~lart utah_dave |
| 03:25.11 | jbot | installs PocketPC on utah_dave's PDA |
| 03:25.27 | Utah_Dave | Aaagh! not PocketPC? |
| 03:25.34 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 03:25.35 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
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| 03:28.12 | jnbek | 5:: <HomerSimpson>MMmmMMmmMmmmMmmmm, Chocolate....D'oh!!</HomerSimpson> Huh Oh yea: /mp3/music/Orphaned Land/Orphaned Land - Mabool - 03 - The Kiss Of Babylon (The Sins).mp3 [Current Posistion: 03:37 of 07:23] |
| 03:28.20 | jnbek | :-P |
| 03:28.39 | jnbek | i'm used to it, so bring it on |
| 03:28.47 | mindjuju | heh |
| 03:28.54 | mindjuju | what you up to jnbek? |
| 03:29.14 | jnbek | btw, sorry about the SPAM, i hit the wrong button, lol |
| 03:29.39 | jnbek | oh not much, mindjuju listening to tunes, working on my own music, stuff like that |
| 03:29.59 | jnbek | i'm building a FreeBSD PF router for a friend in Texas, right now actually |
| 03:30.16 | jnbek | he's traded me an ATI Raedon and a 200W PC Sound system to do it |
| 03:30.32 | mindjuju | nice! |
| 03:30.42 | jnbek | yea :) |
| 03:31.10 | jnbek | well the deal was for the sound system, but i saw the ATI and this is supposed to be a headless system, and he told me i could keep the card |
| 03:31.26 | jnbek | so yea, lol, woeks for me |
| 03:33.40 | mindjuju | man, i can't find sticks of pc100 256mb SoDIMM laptop memory for less than $25 |
| 03:33.49 | mindjuju | they know this stuff is old, right? |
| 03:34.15 | jnbek | heh |
| 03:34.26 | jnbek | i have a 133 stick |
| 03:34.47 | mindjuju | i heard in laptops it does make a difference? |
| 03:34.48 | jnbek | and i 64 Laptop stick from an ancient IBM Thinkpad 380D |
| 03:34.56 | jnbek | 64MB* |
| 03:35.19 | mindjuju | oh, still have 1 free 64mb stick, but i want to kick the laptop up to 512 (2x256mb) |
| 03:35.23 | jnbek | well some laptops use their own ram, the thinkpad sticks are half the size of regualr ram |
| 03:36.28 | mindjuju | true that. the lap is actually for my son, but i have to install all the software and it runs SO slow |
| 03:37.40 | jnbek | what is it? |
| 03:37.47 | jnbek | (the lappy) |
| 03:39.00 | mindjuju | p3 600mhz with 192mb (1x128 & 1x64) w/ 10g hdd |
| 03:39.17 | mindjuju | it's not my fault, though |
| 03:39.28 | mindjuju | i'm on dual core and it's warped my mind and expectations |
| 03:39.47 | mindjuju | i find i get frustrated when the comp isn't snappy while it has 20 big beefy progs open |
| 03:40.54 | jnbek | heh |
| 03:41.09 | jnbek | i can't blame you for your computers, this one is a 633 celeron |
| 03:41.36 | jnbek | after using those 3200 AMD64's at bluehost |
| 03:41.49 | jnbek | these feel like molasses in January |
| 03:41.54 | mindjuju | where is bluehost at? |
| 03:42.01 | mindjuju | in utah, right? |
| 03:43.20 | jnbek | yea |
| 03:43.29 | jnbek | NE Orem, in Canyon Park |
| 03:43.47 | jnbek | i'm a tech there |
| 03:44.27 | mindjuju | ah, the fun days of working at an ISP |
| 03:44.42 | Utah_Dave | jbot: I'm a happy Bluehost customer! |
| 03:44.58 | Utah_Dave | s/jbot:/jnbek/ |
| 03:44.58 | mindjuju | i used to work for Big Planet Tech Support |
| 03:45.27 | jnbek | sweet, Utah_Dave |
| 03:46.00 | jnbek | in a few months i'll prolly get level 3, i qualify, so i'm gonna go for it |
| 03:46.04 | jnbek | get me off the phones, lol |
| 03:46.10 | Utah_Dave | the only thing that bugged me was having to send in a copy of my driver's license to get shell access |
| 03:47.40 | jnbek | yea, that bugs.. |
| 03:47.51 | mindjuju | bad credit! Darn it! can't get a card with utah_dave's info! |
| 03:47.57 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I know! |
| 03:48.25 | jnbek | lol |
| 03:48.41 | Utah_Dave | i was pretty impressed when the day after I signed up, a tech from bluehost called my house to check and make sure I was all set up to my satisfaction |
| 03:48.57 | mindjuju | that cool! |
| 03:49.23 | mindjuju | we were never that proactive at Big Planet |
| 03:49.35 | mindjuju | in fact, we were, what you may call, disgruntled and reactive |
| 03:55.01 | jnbek | hehe :) |
| 03:55.48 | mindjuju | yeah, the best way to make a video collection is |
| 03:55.51 | mindjuju | buy from second hand store |
| 03:56.17 | mindjuju | you can buy several for the price of 1 DVD at walmart |
| 03:56.32 | jnbek | yep |
| 03:56.33 | jnbek | DI++ |
| 03:56.36 | mindjuju | there were several good places in houston, not so many here, though the DI has the occasional find |
| 03:56.37 | mindjuju | yup |
| 03:56.54 | mindjuju | orem DI is biggest / best i know of |
| 03:57.20 | jnbek | yea, that one rawks, the on in AF is ok, but Provo's is much better |
| 03:57.36 | Utah_Dave | Once I was in Walmart and they had this HUGE bin full of crappy dvd's for $1.00. A buddy's birthday was in a couple of days and I was really tempted to buy 100 of these crappy dvd's for his birthday |
| 03:58.27 | mindjuju | that would be funny |
| 03:58.48 | Utah_Dave | my wife didn't want me to spen $100 bucks on his b-day though :( |
| 03:59.25 | mindjuju | yeah, $100 is a lot |
| 03:59.53 | Utah_Dave | still, could you imagine dragging in a huge box. Where would he put them all? |
| 04:00.14 | jnbek | lol, that's the fun part :) |
| 04:00.57 | mindjuju | man, ever year, i get the same thing from my sister in law, and every year i have the same problem |
| 04:01.04 | mindjuju | for bday, that is |
| 04:01.11 | mindjuju | gift card to Best Buy |
| 04:01.39 | jnbek | lol |
| 04:01.50 | jnbek | buy Grand Theft Auto games !! |
| 04:02.15 | mindjuju | BB is so pricey, you can usually find the same thing for half price on the internet |
| 04:02.34 | mindjuju | so you can't buy anything cause you feel like you got ripped off |
| 04:03.21 | jnbek | yea, i forget where, right off, but i ended up with two BB gift cards |
| 04:03.42 | jnbek | i went and bought ps2 games, and they were actually reasonably priced |
| 04:03.47 | jnbek | 19.99 and lower |
| 04:03.54 | mindjuju | really? |
| 04:03.56 | jnbek | and they were relatively recent titles too |
| 04:04.09 | jnbek | yea, i was surprised |
| 04:04.35 | mindjuju | the only thing i've found that were actually reasonably priced at BB are high end stereo headphones |
| 04:04.59 | mindjuju | where internet price is within $15 and by the time you factor shipping and time waiting, you might as well buy today |
| 04:05.13 | Utah_Dave | Especially his wife's reaction. She would have freaked out. |
| 04:05.13 | Utah_Dave | she gets you 100 crappy dvd's? |
| 04:12.45 | jnbek | i need some killer headphones |
| 04:12.56 | jnbek | my good ones got eaten by my dog a few months ago |
| 04:13.11 | jnbek | and i need good phones so i can mix my music right, lol |
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| 04:57.00 | beandog | buenas |
| 04:57.17 | beandog | anyone played with LFS |
| 04:58.49 | mindjuju | nope |
| 04:58.57 | beandog | mindjuju: you ever seen |
| 04:58.59 | beandog | agh |
| 04:59.04 | beandog | the day the earth stood still |
| 05:00.40 | mindjuju | Gort! Klaatu barada nikto |
| 05:00.46 | beandog | is that a yes? |
| 05:00.49 | beandog | ive never seen it |
| 05:00.55 | beandog | I got it in my netflix queue tonight |
| 05:00.57 | mindjuju | oh, then yeah, i've seen it |
| 05:01.32 | Utah_Dave | beandog: Gentoo not satisfying your need to compile everything? :) |
| 05:01.43 | beandog | Utah_Dave: im researching it for work |
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| 10:04.37 | influx^^ | yo? |
| 10:05.27 | influx^^ | If there's anyone that is going through SLC on their way to the lunch in bountiful and can hook a brother up with a ride, please msg me. |
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| 14:10.05 | timinator | mornin' |
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| 14:20.13 | macnewbold | g'day |
| 14:24.00 | herlo | ~welcome macnewbold |
| 14:24.00 | jbot | Welcome to the party, macnewbold! |
| 14:24.12 | macnewbold | howdy, herlo |
| 14:24.37 | herlo | :) |
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| 14:43.32 | cole_joplin | dang, Bountiful |
| 14:45.33 | thebigdog | whatz wrong with that cole? |
| 14:47.46 | cole_joplin | too far for me to drive to make it |
| 14:47.58 | cole_joplin | i've only made one of the lunches |
| 14:48.24 | cole_joplin | oh well, have fun guys |
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| 14:55.24 | herlo | cole_joplin: you are a wuss! I'm driving all the way from LA just to attend ! :) |
| 14:55.44 | herlo | okay, not really! |
| 14:56.30 | cole_joplin | I used to work in Ogden, which would have been ok to drive |
| 15:04.41 | herlo | ha! |
| 15:05.44 | herlo | people in Utah have it so *easy* and they complain when they have to drive more than 30 minutes anywhere. I understand this is an *optional* event, but be thankful you live in Utah and only have that 10-20 minute commute! |
| 15:05.52 | herlo | :) |
| 15:10.42 | influx^^ | So, what usually goes on at the lunches? |
| 15:11.32 | timinator | food |
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| 15:12.26 | timinator | it's similar to the IRC conversation, except you can see everyone, and there's good food |
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| 15:13.25 | influx^^ | kk |
| 15:15.45 | beandog | and we dont really give melvins |
| 15:15.48 | beandog | ~melvin mindjuju |
| 15:15.49 | jbot | ACTION pulls mindjuju underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 15:19.39 | herlo | ~wedgie beandog |
| 15:19.40 | jbot | ACTION hangs beandog from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 15:22.18 | wps | where is the standard place to mount server shares in Linux? |
| 15:22.42 | wps | in Mac OS, it's /Volumes/ |
| 15:24.55 | Black_Chaos | wps: /mnt |
| 15:25.00 | wps | thanks |
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| 15:32.16 | PoeticIntensity | *yawn* |
| 15:32.19 | PoeticIntensity | ~yawn |
| 15:32.20 | jbot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
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| 15:43.25 | influx^^ | herro? |
| 15:43.47 | PoeticIntensity | hawwo. |
| 15:43.57 | influx^^ | :D |
| 15:44.38 | influx^^ | So, I'd really like to make it to the lunch today, but I only have a ride to the lunch. |
| 15:44.45 | influx^^ | restaurante* |
| 15:44.49 | mindjuju | where do you work? |
| 15:45.05 | influx^^ | 2100 S and 54 W, but I have the day off, so I'm downtown on 200 s and 300 w |
| 15:45.34 | PoeticIntensity | it'd take me an hour just to get there. |
| 15:45.38 | influx^^ | :o |
| 15:47.59 | mindjuju | influx^^ how far is that from I-15 ? |
| 15:48.13 | influx^^ | ummmmm |
| 15:48.17 | influx^^ | un momento, por favor |
| 15:49.36 | influx^^ | aboot a mile |
| 15:50.07 | influx^^ | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=i-15&daddr=274+w+200+s+salt+lake+city&sll=40.765018,-111.898982&sspn=0.008077,0.020084&ie=UTF8&ll=40.764486,-111.901331&spn=0.016155,0.040169&z=15&om=1 |
| 15:53.02 | mindjuju | so, that'd be like an exit 600s, go up 300w to 200s and then is there an access back to the freeway that's easy? |
| 15:56.16 | herlo | influx^^: ever heard of tinyurl? |
| 15:56.41 | influx^^ | herlo: yes, and it didn't occur to me until after i pasted the url. |
| 15:56.42 | mindjuju | yeah, but by the time he goes to the URL, puts it in, creates the URL, grabs it, pastes it in here... |
| 15:56.58 | mindjuju | meh, might as well have just posted here |
| 15:57.25 | mindjuju | influx^^ , did you see question above after your URL ? |
| 15:57.49 | influx^^ | yes |
| 15:57.55 | influx^^ | using my eagle eye |
| 15:58.06 | influx^^ | *waves around* |
| 15:58.28 | influx^^ | Looks like there's an onramp on, I think, 500 S or 400 S. |
| 15:58.52 | influx^^ | 500s |
| 15:59.09 | mindjuju | so go to 200s, then back up to 500s, then onward to bountifiul? |
| 15:59.36 | mindjuju | i think i can do that |
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| 16:00.40 | herlo | influx^^: hehe |
| 16:00.59 | herlo | mindjuju: there'es a lovely firefox plugin for it |
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| 16:02.25 | influx^^ | so |
| 16:02.31 | mgeary | ~razz herlo |
| 16:02.35 | herlo | ~beat mgeary |
| 16:02.36 | jbot | ACTION beats mgeary with a very wet, sticky noodle |
| 16:02.37 | influx^^ | open up fire fox, plug in the url, hit enter, copy, paste |
| 16:02.45 | herlo | ~whallop SunSparc |
| 16:02.45 | jbot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop SunSparc until SunSparc whimpers like a little girl! |
| 16:02.58 | mgeary | ~stinky herlo |
| 16:02.59 | jbot | ACTION throws herlo into the shower and scrubs vigorously with Liquid Plumber and a wire brush. "Ewww, i am NOT cleaning the hair from the drain" |
| 16:03.03 | herlo | ~poo mgeary |
| 16:03.03 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at mgeary |
| 16:03.14 | mgeary | ~orca herlo |
| 16:03.16 | mgeary | aww |
| 16:03.26 | herlo | ~whalepoop mgeary |
| 16:03.26 | jbot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at mgeary |
| 16:03.35 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:03.40 | mindjuju | wait, jbot is female? |
| 16:03.45 | mgeary | nawww |
| 16:03.53 | SunSparc | Figures |
| 16:04.17 | mindjuju | jbot is a dude, and he was dating the Austin Powers fembots |
| 16:04.19 | mindjuju | ~jbot |
| 16:04.20 | jbot | jbot is, like, a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool |
| 16:04.30 | mindjuju | well, it used to say it |
| 16:04.45 | mindjuju | jbot, jbot is also dating the fembots |
| 16:04.46 | jbot | okay, mindjuju |
| 16:04.50 | mindjuju | ~jbot |
| 16:04.51 | jbot | rumour has it, jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots |
| 16:05.29 | orsonj | wait, wasn't jbot a fembot? |
| 16:05.41 | mindjuju | influx^^ , do you want a ride to bountiful? |
| 16:05.44 | orsonj | maybe it's different with bots |
| 16:06.05 | mindjuju | hmm... |
| 16:06.20 | herlo | mindjuju: orsonj, mgeary, SunSparc: for sure, jbot *is* a girl. Ask TimRiker |
| 16:07.11 | SunSparc | Weird, that means we have one more php girl in our midst. |
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| 16:07.20 | mindjuju | yeah, not sure how i feel about that |
| 16:07.30 | wps | that's interesting to know |
| 16:07.35 | wps | because jbot has a girfrield |
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| 16:10.36 | influx^^ | mindjuju: Hmm. |
| 16:10.53 | mindjuju | your call, no pressure |
| 16:11.02 | influx^^ | Would it be easier for you to give me a ride there or back? |
| 16:11.05 | mindjuju | i do tend to be one of the last ones to leave |
| 16:11.22 | mindjuju | prolly back, because then i can stop by and see my servers |
| 16:11.28 | mindjuju | @ xmission colo |
| 16:11.29 | influx^^ | ok, back it is |
| 16:11.37 | influx^^ | tierra is giving me a ride there |
| 16:11.43 | mindjuju | coolio! |
| 16:11.52 | wps | jbot, do you have a girlfriend? |
| 16:11.53 | jbot | yes, I have a girlfriend. |
| 16:11.58 | wps | see |
| 16:11.59 | influx^^ | jbot, will you be my girlfriend? |
| 16:12.01 | mindjuju | ~APB timinator |
| 16:12.02 | jbot | ACTION calls Tim to rough up timinator |
| 16:12.17 | influx^^ | aww shucks. snubbed. |
| 16:13.02 | SunSparc | jbot, are you a girl? |
| 16:13.43 | timinator | I'm here |
| 16:13.47 | timinator | wassup? |
| 16:13.57 | mindjuju | hey, i'm going by xmission colo today |
| 16:14.03 | mindjuju | want me to trade out a DVD? |
| 16:14.11 | timinator | nope, not yet |
| 16:14.21 | timinator | probably not for a few months |
| 16:14.30 | mindjuju | k, just wondering |
| 16:14.40 | timinator | ya, thx though |
| 16:15.15 | timinator | you guys seeing this stuff about the housing market? |
| 16:15.20 | timinator | here's another one: http://drudgereport.com/flash1.htm |
| 16:16.20 | timinator | and another one that's more about the general economy because of the housing market: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/14/maineconomy/index.html |
| 16:18.06 | timinator | I heard yesterday that Vegas is seeing an average of 400 foreclosures per day |
| 16:18.23 | timinator | be careful guys |
| 16:18.26 | PoeticIntensity | well, duh... |
| 16:18.29 | PoeticIntensity | man.... |
| 16:18.47 | PoeticIntensity | when I bought my house in 2003, variable rates were all the rage. |
| 16:18.49 | mindjuju | hmmm... i think that may have been a catch 22 situation. After 9-11 and the small stock market crash, and things starting to stagnate, they had to lower the interest rate so that people would borrow (encourage spending) |
| 16:18.51 | influx^^ | it's a good thing I don't owe much at all. |
| 16:19.13 | mindjuju | well, AFAIK variable is always risky |
| 16:19.15 | PoeticIntensity | good thing I had enough foresight to get a fixed rate. |
| 16:19.20 | influx^^ | I don't spend very much at all either. |
| 16:19.28 | influx^^ | gogo PoeticIntensity |
| 16:19.32 | mindjuju | yeah, fixed is what my Momma preaches |
| 16:19.35 | PoeticIntensity | w005 |
| 16:19.38 | PoeticIntensity | w00t |
| 16:19.44 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 16:20.00 | PoeticIntensity | yup.... the housing market is gonna burn. |
| 16:20.09 | PoeticIntensity | it was freaking INSANE for a long time.... |
| 16:20.23 | influx^^ | So, what does this mean for the prices of homes? |
| 16:20.27 | mgeary | i've got a buddy who's a builder. he told me yesterday that 10 builders he knows filed for bankruptcy last month |
| 16:20.40 | PoeticIntensity | the prices of homes will go down. |
| 16:20.49 | PoeticIntensity | because there will be a huge supply... and little demand. |
| 16:21.06 | mindjuju | yeah, have ya'll heard the stats for high end homes in utah? |
| 16:21.08 | PoeticIntensity | so... if you want to buy a house, wait a bit. |
| 16:21.15 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, no.. |
| 16:21.20 | influx^^ | aye |
| 16:21.25 | PoeticIntensity | I thought the Utah real estate market was still pretty strong. |
| 16:21.42 | mindjuju | it was something like around 100 homes priced over $500k sell a month. there are 2300 such homes |
| 16:21.47 | mindjuju | major market saturation |
| 16:22.01 | mindjuju | i'll see if i can find the article again |
| 16:22.01 | timinator | It also means that anybody that would've qualified for a subprime will probably not get any loan |
| 16:22.08 | mgeary | "2300 such homes currently on the market" |
| 16:22.08 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, thanks. |
| 16:22.38 | PoeticIntensity | wow! |
| 16:22.41 | PoeticIntensity | congrats, mgeary |
| 16:22.43 | PoeticIntensity | that's freakin' hight. |
| 16:22.43 | PoeticIntensity | high. |
| 16:22.55 | mgeary | :D |
| 16:23.01 | PoeticIntensity | I just need the market to stay at least bearable until March 2008 |
| 16:23.26 | PoeticIntensity | ugh. |
| 16:23.30 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: a spec home? |
| 16:23.38 | PoeticIntensity | not sure what ya mean, mgeary . |
| 16:23.55 | mgeary | you & a builder are building a home to sell |
| 16:23.58 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 16:24.10 | PoeticIntensity | that's precisely what we're doing. |
| 16:24.10 | mgeary | generally called a spec home |
| 16:24.22 | PoeticIntensity | and man, it's gonna be beautiful. |
| 16:24.33 | PoeticIntensity | I'm trying hard not to wanna just keep it... :) |
| 16:24.36 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:24.42 | PoeticIntensity | it's in Springville, too... |
| 16:24.45 | PoeticIntensity | so we wouldn't have to move far. |
| 16:25.08 | mgeary | yeah, what you don't want is to get to the point where you have to put that home AND your own home up for sale and hope that one sells before you lose both. that's the worst-case scenario |
| 16:25.25 | mgeary | but i'm sure that won't happen to you, PoeticIntensity |
| 16:25.30 | mgeary | we like you too much for such awful things to happen to you |
| 16:25.30 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I'm not too worried now. |
| 16:25.35 | PoeticIntensity | awww... |
| 16:25.43 | mgeary | ~warmfuzzies PoeticIntensity |
| 16:25.50 | PoeticIntensity | we're in a pretty good position, with a pretty good building company.. |
| 16:26.07 | PoeticIntensity | and the location is still selling homes. |
| 16:26.14 | mgeary | who's the builder? |
| 16:26.17 | PoeticIntensity | within the next month, the house will be for sale. |
| 16:26.27 | PoeticIntensity | StoneCastle Homes |
| 16:26.48 | mgeary | don't know 'em, which isn't saying much. One of our bigger clients is a heavy spec-home builder |
| 16:27.00 | mgeary | we've seen a pretty steep drop-off in business from them |
| 16:27.07 | PoeticIntensity | yup.... |
| 16:27.10 | PoeticIntensity | no doubt, it's going downhill. |
| 16:27.23 | PoeticIntensity | I'm just glad the Utah market isn't crashing too hard... |
| 16:27.24 | PoeticIntensity | yet. |
| 16:27.34 | PoeticIntensity | Thankfully, Utah is still a great place to live. |
| 16:27.54 | PoeticIntensity | at least, that's what all the Californians think. ;-) |
| 16:29.39 | drip | I have two homes for sale right now and the market blows. |
| 16:29.56 | PoeticIntensity | where you at, drip ? |
| 16:30.02 | drip | davis county |
| 16:30.07 | drip | one in syracuse |
| 16:30.10 | drip | other in clinton. |
| 16:30.55 | drip | when we put one of the homes up for sale there were about 50 in the same price range in davis county.. |
| 16:30.58 | drip | now there are 130 |
| 16:31.10 | drip | in a couple of months. |
| 16:31.29 | drip | we had a contract on that one.. but it fell through. |
| 16:31.30 | PoeticIntensity | I better start prayin'.... :) |
| 16:31.45 | mindjuju | @ PoeticIntensity - my wife and I are looking for homes, so i've been scanning the news very heavily |
| 16:31.48 | mindjuju | here is article |
| 16:31.48 | mindjuju | http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_6636084 |
| 16:31.58 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, mindjuju |
| 16:32.19 | SunSparc | Good article I found: http://digg.com/design/Design_Arrogance_and_Humility/ |
| 16:32.36 | influx^^ | danke sun |
| 16:32.57 | drip | yeah.. we've had a lot more action on our lesser priced home. |
| 16:33.14 | SunSparc | bitte, influx^^ |
| 16:34.37 | mindjuju | hmm... strongly disagree with design arrogance article |
| 16:34.49 | mindjuju | and know several several people who would too |
| 16:35.02 | mindjuju | that's why there are color coordinators for high end business |
| 16:35.03 | SunSparc | Why is that? |
| 16:35.14 | mindjuju | because half of the pop of men are colorblind |
| 16:35.20 | mindjuju | and simply care too little on design |
| 16:35.27 | mindjuju | so we should... put them in charge? |
| 16:35.39 | SunSparc | You are missing the Arrogance part of the article |
| 16:35.49 | SunSparc | He is advocating both |
| 16:36.41 | influx^^ | temperance |
| 16:36.43 | influx^^ | the middle path |
| 16:36.46 | SunSparc | Yes |
| 16:36.50 | influx^^ | the tao |
| 16:36.58 | influx^^ | ;D |
| 16:37.01 | SunSparc | Meekness = Power, tempered. |
| 16:37.05 | SunSparc | Yes, the tao. |
| 16:37.06 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:37.16 | mindjuju | hmm... |
| 16:37.19 | mindjuju | i don't know |
| 16:37.25 | SunSparc | Why? |
| 16:37.43 | PoeticIntensity | drip, mind if I ask your home prices? |
| 16:37.47 | mindjuju | there is a perfect example i know from art history, just can't think of the guy's name, maybe wps will know |
| 16:37.56 | influx^^ | !summon wps |
| 16:38.01 | mindjuju | but the dude designed a cathedral and it was beautiful, everybody loved |
| 16:38.01 | drip | 229k and 289k |
| 16:38.17 | wps | who are you trying to think of the name for? |
| 16:38.21 | mindjuju | and there on the door in, is his face wrough of gold |
| 16:38.27 | mindjuju | berticulli or something like that |
| 16:39.14 | drip | PoeticIntensity: thing is we haven't seen anything that's as good a value as the 289k home for the same price. |
| 16:42.21 | drip | but the market has just dropped out. |
| 16:42.58 | drip | so now having to look at lease-to-own options on the syracuse home. |
| 16:43.57 | SunSparc | mindjuju: I still do not understand why you disagree with the article? |
| 16:46.12 | mindjuju | SunSparc , can't find it now, i'll have to pull out my art history text and give name then, but with comments like this, i strongly disagree. |
| 16:46.45 | mindjuju | Neither product is better in any absolute way; |
| 16:47.09 | mindjuju | ipod v myspace |
| 16:47.36 | mindjuju | ipod is the culmination of several state of the art tech |
| 16:47.40 | mindjuju | myspace got lucky |
| 16:48.04 | mindjuju | there is a reason the ipod took off and it can be calculated |
| 16:48.15 | wps | ~myspace |
| 16:48.15 | jbot | myspace is, like, the cesspool of the internet |
| 16:48.34 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:48.57 | PoeticIntensity | niiice. |
| 16:49.34 | SunSparc | Thank goodness for a cesspool to take care of our refuse. |
| 16:55.33 | mindjuju | @ sunsparc , maybe its just me, but i think author is really wrong on this on several levels. |
| 16:56.00 | SunSparc | Could be. |
| 16:56.22 | mgeary | looks like there's a PHP+GD2 bug when you try to resample a PNG with transparency. :/ |
| 16:56.27 | SunSparc | Perhaps I did not think about it deeply enough. |
| 16:56.36 | mgeary | apparently you have to go through each pixel and restore the transparency |
| 16:56.38 | mgeary | ugh |
| 16:56.55 | cole_joplin | ping mindjuju |
| 16:58.00 | mindjuju | hi cole, i'm here |
| 16:58.15 | orsonj | ~lart asp |
| 16:58.15 | jbot | executes killall -TERM asp |
| 16:58.18 | mindjuju | sunsparc, didn't want to suggest that you hadn't thought enough about it |
| 16:58.25 | mindjuju | did you write the article? |
| 16:58.28 | SunSparc | jbot, give orsonj some PHP |
| 16:58.28 | jbot | ACTION gives some PHP to orsonj |
| 16:58.31 | cole_joplin | tried to call your cell |
| 16:58.46 | orsonj | ~lart vb |
| 16:58.46 | jbot | hits vb with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 16:58.55 | SunSparc | mindjuju: No offense taken. :) Nope, just read it on someone's blog. |
| 16:58.56 | wps | that want to build "the next big thing" but aren't willing to pay for it or put the time in |
| 16:59.11 | orsonj | hey, me too! |
| 16:59.16 | mgeary | ah, found a better fix |
| 16:59.59 | mgeary | wps: ahhh |
| 17:00.08 | mgeary | wps: but you don't understand, they're the IDEA guys |
| 17:00.13 | mgeary | that idea is worth millions |
| 17:00.22 | mgeary | your work to *build* it, well that's not worth muc |
| 17:00.24 | mgeary | much |
| 17:00.28 | mgeary | especially by comparison |
| 17:00.53 | cole_joplin | I've had so many IDEA men want me to build their dreams.... |
| 17:01.01 | mgeary | but maybe, if you're lucky, they'll give you ownership instead of paying you to build their cool idea. Maybe as much as, say, 8%.... |
| 17:01.04 | cole_joplin | at a discount, or free |
| 17:01.12 | cole_joplin | or some some minor percentage |
| 17:01.24 | wps | oh yeah |
| 17:01.27 | mindjuju | @ sunsparc , pm |
| 17:01.30 | wps | what a privilege |
| 17:02.07 | cole_joplin | when I turn the tables and ask them what financial commitments they are ready to make, it all changes |
| 17:02.26 | orsonj | now, if it was your idea, and you build it, they might double the percentage. |
| 17:02.36 | cole_joplin | ha |
| 17:02.39 | cole_joplin | good one |
| 17:03.46 | orsonj | my neighbor got an offer from someone to pay someone, part time, for a year, in exchange for 40% |
| 17:03.58 | cole_joplin | when someone claims to be an idea man, you need to instantly turn into an expensive consultant |
| 17:04.28 | timinator | I'm out... see ya'all at Chipotle! |
| 17:30.16 | mgeary | ~lart hayfever |
| 17:30.16 | jbot | farts in hayfever's general direction |
| 17:31.06 | mindjuju | yeah, i don't know about you guys, but if jbot was a girl, and farting, it just doesn't seem the same as if jbot was a guy and farting |
| 17:31.19 | mindjuju | maybe its just me |
| 17:33.15 | mgeary | so, in #uphpu, jbot is patently male, while in #php-women, jbot would be unavoidably female |
| 17:34.37 | mindjuju | mmmm.... nah |
| 17:34.48 | mindjuju | i say ask jbot and let jbot self determine |
| 17:35.14 | mgeary | ~envy jbot |
| 17:35.25 | mgeary | ~envy mindjuju |
| 17:35.29 | mgeary | hmm. that used to work |
| 17:35.56 | mindjuju | jbot, do you have a girlfriend |
| 17:35.57 | jbot | yes, I have a girlfriend. |
| 17:36.08 | mgeary | jbot, do you have a boyfriend? |
| 17:36.09 | jbot | yes, I have a boyfriend. |
| 17:36.15 | mindjuju | touche! |
| 17:36.21 | mindjuju | dag, didn't know that was there |
| 17:36.31 | thebigdog | ~date jbot |
| 17:36.32 | jbot | you date jbot |
| 17:36.39 | mindjuju | cunning and clever mgeary |
| 17:37.33 | mgeary | .... and just melts away |
| 17:38.17 | mgeary | gotta reboot |
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| 17:40.49 | thebigdog | anyone see smith at all |
| 17:41.02 | mindjuju | last i heard he was in vancouver this week |
| 17:42.02 | thebigdog | k |
| 17:42.05 | herlo | mindjuju: montreal |
| 17:42.11 | herlo | other side of the country |
| 17:42.23 | herlo | :) |
| 17:42.34 | mindjuju | ah cool |
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| 17:46.55 | thebigdog | man this voip stuff is chapping me hard |
| 17:47.47 | mindjuju | ~seen jsmith |
| 17:47.50 | jbot | jsmith <n=jsmith@atelka.info> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk-doc, 18h 59m 30s ago, saying: 'itconversations.com'. |
| 17:48.11 | mindjuju | thebigdog is the asterisk channel any good? |
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| 17:50.42 | thebigdog | not sure |
| 17:50.48 | thebigdog | im going to head out though |
| 17:50.56 | mindjuju | k |
| 17:51.22 | thebigdog | ill see you guys in a few |
| 17:51.33 | mindjuju | k |
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| 18:02.24 | tierra | wait, doesn't bigdog live/work closer to Bountiful? That's quite the drive if he had to leave 70 minutes before the lunch is scheduled... heh |
| 18:05.31 | influx^^ | mmm |
| 18:05.38 | influx^^ | bop |
| 18:07.21 | herlo | tierra: I bet he has stops to make :) |
| 18:08.11 | tierra | ah, yeah, makes sense |
| 18:08.56 | mindjuju | we'll prolly kick it there a while |
| 18:09.49 | herlo | tierra: yeah, 3 hours lunches are the norm :) j/k |
| 18:10.26 | mindjuju | well, not too far off from truth. applebees after uphpu meet goes from 9:30p - 1a last time |
| 18:10.41 | mindjuju | at least, i bailed leaving others behind @ 1:30a |
| 18:11.01 | tierra | well, I like kicking it with you guys when I don't have stuff I need to do, so yeah, that can easily happen |
| 18:11.55 | herlo | mindjuju: nice. When is UPHPU again? Next thursday? |
| 18:12.26 | mindjuju | yup, macnewbold SQL and PHP |
| 18:12.39 | influx^^ | I'm STARVING. |
| 18:13.19 | mindjuju | k, i'm headed up so i'm there a few minutes early |
| 18:13.24 | mindjuju | c ya'll there! |
| 18:13.49 | tierra | oh yeah, I should probably take off now |
| 18:13.54 | influx^^ | heh |
| 18:13.59 | tierra | influx^^: headed out now |
| 18:14.00 | influx^^ | good idea |
| 18:14.01 | influx^^ | k |
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| 21:11.27 | beandog | mindjuju, was a good movie |
| 21:11.38 | beandog | today I get "Mom and Dad Save the World" |
| 21:11.44 | beandog | another classic flick that shouldn't be missed :D |
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| 21:28.47 | dataw0lf | Hi gents. |
| 21:29.26 | mgeary | well look who's here |
| 21:29.32 | dataw0lf | sup bro |
| 21:30.42 | mgeary | where ya been? |
| 21:31.02 | wps | hey, dataw0lf, good to see you |
| 21:31.05 | dataw0lf | recovering from appendicitis, working a lot. |
| 21:31.11 | wps | yikes |
| 21:31.15 | wps | my wife had that while pregnant |
| 21:31.23 | mgeary | aah |
| 21:31.27 | dataw0lf | really? dang, that doesn't sound good, wps. |
| 21:31.33 | mgeary | dataw0lf: did it burst? |
| 21:31.42 | dataw0lf | mgeary: nah, thank goodness. |
| 21:31.42 | wps | no… they have to wait until after the baby comes out to remove it |
| 21:31.48 | mgeary | mine did. while camping, no less |
| 21:31.54 | wps | wow |
| 21:31.57 | mgeary | wasn't fun |
| 21:32.06 | dataw0lf | dang |
| 21:32.08 | mgeary | dataw0lf: well, welcome back to the living |
| 21:32.12 | dataw0lf | thanks :) |
| 21:32.22 | dataw0lf | I think I may have found a bug in jquery during lunch |
| 21:33.25 | dataw0lf | when using nested eachs on a jquery object, and you use attr() to search on attribute values, if the attributes contain a space, they'll only match the first words of each attribute |
| 21:33.35 | cycokilr | yikes! dataw0lf dude! long time no see buddy.. |
| 21:33.36 | dataw0lf | XML doesn't specify no spaces in attributes in it's standard, does it? |
| 21:33.40 | dataw0lf | sup cycokilr |
| 21:33.51 | cycokilr | not much man.. how are things with you? |
| 21:34.08 | dataw0lf | working application security now |
| 21:34.23 | cycokilr | nice.. same geo location? |
| 21:34.42 | dataw0lf | yar, Tahoe. |
| 21:34.52 | cycokilr | ahh, the good life man.. |
| 21:35.28 | dataw0lf | pretty nice, but they found out how well I knew C so they pulled me off web app security and now I have to sit and look at stack traces all day... |
| 21:35.49 | cycokilr | oh man.. that's gotta be fun.. |
| 21:36.31 | wps | ~lart hunting js errors in MSIE |
| 21:36.31 | jbot | calls hunting js errors in MSIE on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 21:36.37 | wps | weak |
| 21:36.49 | wps | ~lart hunting js errors in MSIE |
| 21:36.49 | jbot | chops hunting js errors in MSIE in half with a free AOL CD |
| 21:36.56 | wps | there we go |
| 21:37.12 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: perhaps compared to a root canal... |
| 21:37.25 | beandog | actually a root canal isnt *that* bad |
| 21:37.35 | dataw0lf | point taken |
| 21:38.10 | cycokilr | what about debugging sco unix kernel core dump files? |
| 21:38.29 | cycokilr | that was a blast when i did that for a couple weeks.. |
| 21:39.27 | wps | ~wedgie SCO |
| 21:39.27 | jbot | ACTION hangs SCO from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 21:39.31 | dataw0lf | I have fun when writing the shellcode/egg as PoC, but actually finding the exploit is tedious |
| 21:42.34 | dataw0lf | next week though, I get to write a web app fuzzer in python, which'll be fun. |
| 21:49.05 | herlo | ~melvin SCO |
| 21:49.06 | jbot | ACTION pulls SCO underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 21:50.24 | dataw0lf | sup herlo |
| 21:51.01 | herlo | dataw0lf: w00t |
| 21:51.04 | herlo | ~w00t! |
| 21:51.05 | jbot | There it is! |
| 21:51.10 | herlo | dataw0lf: how's things? |
| 21:51.30 | herlo | dataw0lf: missed you at UTOSC... |
| 21:54.18 | PoeticIntensity | oh... that reminds me, herlo - I've got funding and time-off already for next year's UTOSC. |
| 21:54.22 | PoeticIntensity | I just found out about it too late this year. |
| 21:54.38 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: cool. |
| 21:54.47 | herlo | beandog: you were there? |
| 21:54.54 | PoeticIntensity | I know the answer to that one. |
| 21:54.56 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) |
| 21:54.58 | beandog | nope, I didnt make it :C |
| 21:55.03 | beandog | fail |
| 21:56.02 | dataw0lf | herlo: yea, I was way too busy, sorry :\ |
| 21:56.06 | dataw0lf | I missed DefCon this year too |
| 21:56.18 | dataw0lf | how many people showed up to UTOSC? |
| 21:56.37 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, did I tell you about my car |
| 21:56.57 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 21:56.59 | herlo | dataw0lf: 201, no excuse next year though |
| 21:57.53 | PoeticIntensity | what's with your car, beandog ? |
| 21:57.54 | dataw0lf | herlo: That's a pretty good turn out |
| 21:58.01 | dataw0lf | herlo: yea, I'll definitely be there next year. |
| 21:58.18 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, oh |
| 21:58.21 | beandog | new transmission #2 |
| 21:58.22 | herlo | dataw0lf: cool. Now we have to figure out how to give back to the community |
| 21:58.24 | beandog | \o/ |
| 21:58.31 | beandog | or is this #3 |
| 21:58.37 | PoeticIntensity | wha....? |
| 21:58.46 | PoeticIntensity | you're on a new clutch already? |
| 21:58.47 | herlo | we're in the process of working out the numbers right now so we can determine what we'll do with the proceeds |
| 21:59.00 | PoeticIntensity | (this would be number 3, if you got it replaced) |
| 21:59.09 | dataw0lf | herlo: that's cool |
| 21:59.24 | herlo | dataw0lf: :) |
| 22:00.01 | influx^^ | y0 |
| 22:00.21 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, I dunno if its a new clutch, he just said hes gotta replace the transmission. I took it in cuz something was making noises in the engine |
| 22:00.27 | beandog | at least its under warranty |
| 22:00.28 | beandog | woots |
| 22:00.59 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 22:01.06 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... transmissions are.... kinda expensive. |
| 22:01.07 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:01.14 | beandog | si |
| 22:03.55 | PoeticIntensity | got a postgresql question... |
| 22:04.16 | beandog | use mysql. |
| 22:04.22 | beandog | don't quote me on that. |
| 22:04.41 | beandog | sco filed for bankruptcy? |
| 22:04.47 | PoeticIntensity | how does one select a non-aggregated row......... hrmm.... |
| 22:04.53 | beandog | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070914-sco-files-for-chapter-11.html |
| 22:04.54 | PoeticIntensity | I think I may have answered my own question. |
| 22:04.57 | PoeticIntensity | (Yes, they did) |
| 22:07.24 | herlo | ~lart beandog for sneaking in that he didn't go to UTOSC either |
| 22:07.24 | jbot | strangles beandog with a 9-pole serial cable for sneaking in that he didn't go to UTOSC either |
| 22:08.04 | herlo | beandog: I'll pay you on Tuesday |
| 22:08.10 | beandog | heh |
| 22:08.19 | beandog | wimp. |
| 22:08.26 | herlo | beandog: admit it, you thought it was funny |
| 22:08.37 | beandog | :) |
| 22:09.52 | beandog | I did |
| 22:09.56 | beandog | ~herlo++ |
| 22:10.38 | herlo | ~karma herlo |
| 22:10.38 | jbot | herlo has karma of 3 |
| 22:10.42 | herlo | w00t! |
| 22:12.39 | dataw0lf | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 22:12.39 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of 6 |
| 22:14.50 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 22:14.50 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 5 |
| 22:15.33 | mgeary | anyone else here use T-mobile? |
| 22:15.37 | beandog | yah |
| 22:15.47 | mgeary | what phone do you use? |
| 22:15.50 | beandog | razr |
| 22:15.55 | mgeary | how's the battery life? |
| 22:15.59 | beandog | which I just dropped on the ground |
| 22:16.13 | beandog | really good |
| 22:16.20 | beandog | I can go about 3 days on one charge I think |
| 22:16.30 | beandog | I bought a new battery not too long ago for $15 |
| 22:16.34 | beandog | just for the heck of it |
| 22:16.37 | mgeary | i'm using an old Sharp something-or-other, and i get about 4 conversations in before it starts beeping me "low battery" |
| 22:16.44 | beandog | oops I missed a call. |
| 22:16.45 | herlo | ~dataw0lf-- |
| 22:16.52 | herlo | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 22:16.52 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of 5 |
| 22:16.55 | herlo | :) |
| 22:16.56 | mgeary | oohhhhhh |
| 22:17.01 | dataw0lf | ~herlo-- |
| 22:17.08 | herlo | ~herlo++ |
| 22:17.20 | beandog | mgeary, if Im chatting on there a lot, it'll last me a day or two before I charge it up, but I charge mine every night anyway |
| 22:17.29 | herlo | ~dataw0lf++ |
| 22:17.33 | beandog | I like my phone cuz of the screen. great for cel phone games |
| 22:17.55 | dataw0lf | ~herlo++ |
| 22:18.00 | herlo | ~karma herlo |
| 22:18.00 | jbot | herlo has karma of 3 |
| 22:18.03 | herlo | yay! |
| 22:18.27 | mindjuju | sup dataw0lf |
| 22:18.36 | dataw0lf | sup mindjuju |
| 22:18.57 | mindjuju | dude, we had kick butt geek lunch |
| 22:19.09 | herlo | mindjuju: I wish I could have come! |
| 22:19.16 | herlo | :( |
| 22:19.30 | dataw0lf | :| |
| 22:19.32 | mindjuju | influx^^ , thebigdog, timinator, fungus, swb, tierra and i |
| 22:19.34 | dataw0lf | me and herlo are always left out |
| 22:19.34 | mindjuju | good times |
| 22:19.51 | herlo | dataw0lf: we'll have to have ourselves a geek lunch without everyone else... |
| 22:19.57 | dataw0lf | a geek PARTAY |
| 22:20.01 | herlo | :) |
| 22:20.01 | dataw0lf | with booze and strippers |
| 22:20.05 | herlo | beer |
| 22:20.43 | dataw0lf | you should come and drink with me in Reno, this microbrewery here has this blackberry ale that's unbelievable. |
| 22:22.14 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, ping |
| 22:26.24 | PoeticIntensity | yo |
| 22:26.38 | mindjuju | sup PI |
| 22:26.48 | PoeticIntensity | just pongin' beandog |
| 22:27.10 | PoeticIntensity | and what's the freaking big deal about dividing by zero?? |
| 22:27.27 | PoeticIntensity | I mean c'mon... it's just arithmetic . |
| 22:27.28 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:27.38 | mindjuju | yeah, it's a free country, right? |
| 22:27.44 | PoeticIntensity | buyah, baby! |
| 22:27.49 | mindjuju | you have the RIGHT to divide by zero if you want |
| 22:27.52 | tierra | rol |
| 22:27.55 | PoeticIntensity | I'll divide by zero as much as I FREAKING WANT! |
| 22:28.14 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, which system logger are you using |
| 22:28.17 | mindjuju | dude, we should start a revolution |
| 22:28.19 | PoeticIntensity | SQL seems to differ in opinoin, however. |
| 22:28.25 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, metalog |
| 22:28.51 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, for no reason whatsoever.... can't even remember why I switched from syslognd (orwhateveritscalled) |
| 22:28.58 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, does that dump to terminal 12 |
| 22:29.09 | PoeticIntensity | I have *no* idea. |
| 22:29.12 | beandog | hmm |
| 22:29.16 | beandog | -_- |
| 22:30.14 | PoeticIntensity | sheesh. |
| 22:34.30 | macnewbol1 | haha |
| 22:34.34 | macnewbol1 | ouch |
| 22:34.34 | macnewbol1 | not fun |
| 22:35.04 | PoeticIntensity | macnewbol1, correct.... however I just verified that it works! |
| 22:35.36 | macnewbold | works is good |
| 22:35.38 | PoeticIntensity | hey macnewbold, how advanced is the php / sql presentation tonight gonna be? |
| 22:35.58 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 22:36.00 | macnewbold | next week, not tonight |
| 22:36.04 | PoeticIntensity | er.... is that not tonight? |
| 22:36.04 | mindjuju | PI - yeah next week |
| 22:36.08 | PoeticIntensity | the meeting? |
| 22:36.08 | macnewbold | next thursday |
| 22:36.10 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 22:36.16 | macnewbold | today was the geek lunch |
| 22:36.17 | mindjuju | yeah, geek lunch was today |
| 22:36.21 | macnewbold | jinx |
| 22:36.39 | macnewbold | I'm not entirely sure yet how advanced it will be |
| 22:36.47 | PoeticIntensity | so.... how advanced is the presentation...?... oh... okay. |
| 22:36.51 | macnewbold | last time we did normalization and stuff, and some examples, and it went pretty long |
| 22:37.05 | macnewbold | if people have stuff they'd like to talk about, I'd be happy to do it |
| 22:37.07 | mindjuju | yeah, but very goot |
| 22:37.07 | PoeticIntensity | I'd like to go, but .... yeah... I went to that one, and it was interesting, but it was all stuff I already knew. |
| 22:37.14 | macnewbold | hm |
| 22:37.18 | macnewbold | what's stuff you'd like to know then? |
| 22:37.32 | PoeticIntensity | concerning php / sql... |
| 22:37.50 | macnewbold | it would be good to do something more advanced than last time probably, or at least different |
| 22:38.03 | PoeticIntensity | I've been working in those two technologies for the past five years or so.... |
| 22:38.10 | macnewbold | if you think of anything, let me know, I'm finally getting out of the door before 7pm for once |
| 22:38.16 | PoeticIntensity | ok |
| 22:38.27 | mindjuju | how bout datamining strategies |
| 22:38.39 | PoeticIntensity | AH! |
| 22:38.52 | PoeticIntensity | query optimization for tables larger than 10 million rows. |
| 22:39.03 | macnewbold | wow, yeah, that would be cool |
| 22:39.16 | PoeticIntensity | optimizing joins.... |
| 22:39.24 | PoeticIntensity | proper indexing practices. |
| 22:39.37 | timinator | Love those Geek Lunches |
| 22:39.47 | mindjuju | sup timinator -- that was fun, huh? |
| 22:39.55 | timinator | fo sho |
| 22:40.16 | PoeticIntensity | anyway.... those would be interesting for me.... |
| 22:40.35 | PoeticIntensity | however, I would guess that all those topics are highly dependent upon the engine used (mysql / pgsql)... |
| 22:40.44 | PoeticIntensity | and I'd be mostly interested in pgsql... |
| 22:40.56 | PoeticIntensity | but, I'd still go to learn about it, even if it was mysql. |
| 22:43.27 | mindjuju | for those of you with nothing better to do, a friend of mine just sent this to me http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ee_1189701632&p=1 |
| 22:43.35 | mindjuju | a huge RC airplane |
| 22:43.51 | mindjuju | thing looks like 10 wingspan |
| 22:43.58 | mindjuju | maybe longer? |
| 23:04.56 | SunSparc | Probably not the worlds largest. The military has some big ones. |
| 23:09.41 | mindjuju | true that |
| 23:13.42 | cole_joplin | ping mindjuju |
| 23:24.56 | *** part/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=cjoplin@gw.helius.com) |
| 23:52.56 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |