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| 00:02.06 | thinbegin | hey. does anyone know a mysql query that can be run that will return what database is actively being used [like in a "use database_name;" way]? |
| 00:02.30 | thinbegin | or, better yet, what server the mysql box is being run on? |
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| 00:08.01 | thinbegin | hmmm. thnx neway |
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| 00:22.33 | bradym | lol - http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/96/Vistaohlord.png |
| 00:23.39 | bradym | so if the mouse is dangerous to use, and you can't use dangerous devices till you click Allow..... think of the tech support calls "my computer says my mouse is dangerous, what now?" |
| 00:23.48 | macnewbold | nice |
| 00:23.50 | macnewbold | that's great |
| 00:24.17 | macnewbold | I know, nobody uses keyboards anymore for anything - I hope tab still works in vista like in xp? |
| 00:24.49 | bradym | yeah, i hope so.. |
| 00:25.16 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 00:25.30 | mindjuju | hey macnewbold, you going to be around bountiful on Friday? |
| 00:25.49 | macnewbold | I wish I could come, but I've got a lunch meeting downtown that day |
| 00:25.53 | macnewbold | SLC that is |
| 00:26.12 | macnewbold | as much as double lunch sounds really appealing, it doesn't usually work out that well for me in practice |
| 00:26.29 | mindjuju | cool! we could totally relocate to where you're having the business meet! |
| 00:26.36 | mindjuju | jk |
| 00:26.42 | bradym | haha |
| 00:27.08 | bradym | i'm sure that would go over well with his client :) |
| 00:27.15 | mindjuju | wouldn't that be funny? |
| 00:27.56 | bradym | "no pressure, but here's all my geek friends who are here to help me convince you to buy my services" |
| 00:28.00 | bradym | :) |
| 00:28.38 | mindjuju | and to mooch some grubbage |
| 00:30.06 | bradym | huh... someone got way too bored.... http://www.geostationarybananaovertexas.com/en.html |
| 00:31.11 | Utah_Dave | hey all you bloggers. Should I use WordPress for a blog? Or use Google's Blogger? |
| 00:32.50 | mindjuju | did google launch the blog thing they bought? |
| 00:32.56 | mindjuju | i thought that was still in the hopper? |
| 00:33.18 | bradym | they bought blogger awhile ago.. you're thinking of something else |
| 00:33.30 | bradym | whose name i can't remember at the moment... |
| 00:33.38 | mindjuju | jotspot ? |
| 00:33.42 | bradym | that one |
| 00:33.50 | mindjuju | i thoguht jotspot was a blog? |
| 00:34.24 | bradym | i think it is, but google also owns blogger |
| 00:35.10 | mindjuju | well, i was going to setup something on WP or moveable type, but haven't gotten around to it yet |
| 00:35.33 | bradym | MT is a pain in the rear... go with WP |
| 00:36.18 | bradym | Utah_Dave: I guess it depends on how much control you need in terms of adding new functionality, customization, etc.. if you want to be able to install mods, go with WP, otherwise blogger should work.. |
| 00:36.33 | bradym | though i'm not a blogger myself.. i've installed stuff for others |
| 00:40.09 | bradym | ~lart mindjuju |
| 00:40.09 | jbot | takes a big bite out of mindjuju's jugular vein |
| 00:40.28 | mindjuju | dude, you got to see this |
| 00:41.24 | Utah_Dave | post a pic, mindjuju |
| 00:42.11 | mindjuju | k, hang on |
| 00:42.12 | bradym | "This is a PHP class that provides (partially) complete access" -- partially complete access? wouldn't that be partial access? |
| 00:42.34 | Utah_Dave | ok, I'm probably going to run my blog on WordPress to begin with. |
| 00:43.15 | Utah_Dave | I just hope my 133t webhost can handle all the hitz I'm going to get this week |
| 00:43.20 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 00:45.10 | mindjuju | k, here it is |
| 00:45.10 | mindjuju | http://www.billgood.com/vvilla/4screen.png |
| 00:45.22 | bradym | cause you know you're gonna get like a million hits the first day it's up right Utah_Dave? |
| 00:45.34 | mindjuju | so the one on the far left needs to be on a riser and i'm going to need a pci vga card |
| 00:45.44 | mindjuju | which by the way, does anybody in here have one they are selling? |
| 00:46.20 | Utah_Dave | bradym: I'm expecting at least a million hits by lunch tomorrow :) |
| 00:46.26 | orsonj | I think I have a couple laying around |
| 00:46.36 | mindjuju | really orsonj ? |
| 00:46.36 | bradym | oooh, wow.. go Utah_Dave go! :P |
| 00:46.49 | mindjuju | how much memory onboard? |
| 00:47.11 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I have a couple agp cards. |
| 00:47.22 | orsonj | probably not much. they are older ones. 1024x768 probably |
| 00:47.28 | mindjuju | nope, agp slot taken |
| 00:47.58 | mindjuju | hey, i've got to split, but will be back later tonight |
| 00:47.59 | mindjuju | thx all |
| 00:48.18 | orsonj | I'll look a bit more thouroughly later |
| 00:48.19 | mindjuju | orsonj and everybody else, let me konw if you have vidcard |
| 00:51.38 | orsonj | The top of the pile reveals a pci video card with trident and winbond markings on the chips |
| 00:52.21 | orsonj | the next one seems to be a diamond stealth 64 with a chip marked S3 Vision 968 |
| 00:52.56 | orsonj | There may be some more in other machines marked for recycling. |
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| 02:45.05 | orsonj | ~lart sports |
| 02:45.05 | jbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up sports |
| 02:45.50 | orsonj | ~lart competitive physical activity |
| 02:45.50 | jbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at competitive physical activity |
| 02:46.21 | orsonj | ~lart competitive physical activities |
| 02:46.21 | jbot | overclocks competitive physical activities until competitive physical activities burns out |
| 02:46.53 | orsonj | hey, good description of pro^H^H^Hall sports |
| 02:47.11 | orsonj | ~lart sports |
| 02:47.11 | jbot | whacks sports with the cluebat |
| 02:51.15 | orsonj | ~lart sports |
| 02:51.15 | jbot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on sports |
| 02:51.24 | orsonj | better |
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| 03:58.48 | orsonj | cpu utilization would probably stay at least 50% |
| 03:59.32 | orsonj | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz |
| 04:00.09 | wps | if I want to make sure that PHP could write to a directory, but lock it down otherwise |
| 04:00.15 | orsonj | cpu MHz: 731.063 |
| 04:00.29 | wps | would I set the user and group to apache? or is there a PHP user? |
| 04:00.41 | orsonj | I think it is apache |
| 04:01.20 | orsonj | try <?php echo `whoam` ." ". groups; ?> |
| 04:01.28 | orsonj | try <?php echo `whoam` ." ". `groups`; ?> |
| 04:03.31 | wps | that returned what I needed, but would does that code do? |
| 04:03.51 | orsonj | sorry, s/whoam/whoami/ |
| 04:04.14 | orsonj | it runs the unix command whoami which tells you the user you are running as |
| 04:04.17 | wps | are those just special built-in variables? |
| 04:04.45 | orsonj | groups returns a list of groups that you are a member of, the first, I believe, is the default group. |
| 04:04.46 | wps | oh, yes, I recognize those as unix commands |
| 04:05.00 | wps | when you do echo `asdf`, that executes it as a unix command? |
| 04:05.05 | wps | that's just a shortcut |
| 04:05.08 | wps | ? |
| 04:05.44 | orsonj | $output = `unixcommand -with -or -without paramters`; |
| 04:05.56 | wps | interesting |
| 04:06.23 | wps | I have never seen that syntax before |
| 04:06.23 | orsonj | It is similar to system("..."); |
| 04:06.23 | orsonj | or something like that |
| 04:06.29 | orsonj | the quotes are easier to remember than the command. |
| 04:06.39 | wps | yeah |
| 04:06.45 | wps | all I was aware of was exec() |
| 04:06.53 | orsonj | that's probably it |
| 04:06.53 | wps | thanks |
| 04:07.02 | wps | I think system works too |
| 04:08.00 | orsonj | some variations of the command return the output as a string, and others print the output. |
| 04:08.45 | orsonj | php.net shows several variations of "run another program" with different nuances. |
| 04:09.12 | orsonj | I mainly use the backtick operators |
| 04:53.02 | wps | if I create a hard link to a file |
| 04:53.16 | wps | and that file is update |
| 04:53.35 | wps | my link file should reflect the change, rigght? |
| 04:54.09 | wps | my understanding is that a hard link _is_ the file |
| 05:01.42 | herlo | wps: correct |
| 05:02.00 | herlo | a hard link is just another name that points to the inode and data blocks |
| 05:02.10 | wps | weird… it wasn't showing the change |
| 05:02.31 | herlo | wps: yeah, that is strance, hard links should also have the same inode number |
| 05:02.39 | herlo | try ls -li for both linked files |
| 05:02.50 | herlo | the inode number on the left should match |
| 05:03.13 | wps | well, I got it to work with a soft link, so I'm good for now |
| 05:03.33 | wps | (originally didn't think a soft would work) |
| 05:03.34 | herlo | well good |
| 05:03.57 | wps | I'd prefer a software link anyway since I only want the link to be able to "read" the file and not edit it |
| 05:04.11 | wps | s/software/soft/ |
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| 14:36.32 | timinator | morning ladies |
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| 15:07.37 | timinator | now that everyone's decided to show up... |
| 15:07.43 | timinator | morning ladies |
| 15:07.47 | timinator | :) |
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| 15:11.48 | mgeary | mawnin' |
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| 15:27.59 | josephscott__lap | wps: more spam at http://uphpu.org/2007/08/08/defcon-15-report/ |
| 15:28.32 | wps | thanks |
| 15:28.33 | wps | gone |
| 15:32.46 | thebigdog | man im good |
| 15:33.39 | mgeary | ~praise thebigdog |
| 15:33.40 | jbot | All hail thebigdog! |
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| 15:57.24 | brasto | anyone know why my opensuse 10.2 install at work mounts my usb device as read only, but the install at home mounts it as read/write? |
| 15:57.52 | brasto | Plug's not been super helpfull with this question on #uphpu... |
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| 16:02.27 | brasto | /s/#uphpu/#utah |
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| 16:04.57 | fungus | s/#uphpu/#utah/ |
| 16:05.11 | fungus | Just like sed |
| 16:05.38 | brasto | s/#uphpu/#utah/ |
| 16:05.59 | brasto | does it need to be the thing I just said most recently? |
| 16:06.09 | wps | yes |
| 16:06.50 | brasto | s/just said most recently/most recently said/ |
| 16:07.03 | brasto | coo! |
| 16:07.22 | brasto | testing a definition I might use a lot: |
| 16:07.30 | brasto | ~brastolook |
| 16:07.31 | jbot | i guess brastolook is /$1 looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:07.39 | brasto | doh! |
| 16:11.14 | timinator | brasto.... it should be something like this |
| 16:12.25 | timinator | jbot: brastolook $1 is <action> $1 looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:12.26 | jbot | timinator: okay |
| 16:12.37 | timinator | ~brastolook brasto |
| 16:12.38 | jbot | ACTION brasto looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:13.07 | timinator | hmmm |
| 16:13.25 | timinator | jbot: forget brastolook |
| 16:13.25 | jbot | timinator: i forgot brastolook |
| 16:13.30 | timinator | ~brastolook |
| 16:14.01 | timinator | jbot: brastolook $1 is $1 looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:14.02 | jbot | ACTION $1 is $1 looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:14.22 | timinator | ~brastolook brasto |
| 16:14.23 | jbot | ACTION brasto looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:14.33 | wps | did anyone get my email about the exploit? it showed up in the archives, but I never received a copy myself |
| 16:14.41 | timinator | checking |
| 16:15.07 | brasto | thanks timinator! |
| 16:15.18 | brasto | I got it wps |
| 16:15.27 | wps | k. thanks. |
| 16:15.31 | timinator | sure... not sure how to get rid of the initial "jbot" on that statement |
| 16:15.34 | timinator | ask mindjuju |
| 16:16.20 | timinator | wps: I got the email |
| 16:16.24 | wps | thanks |
| 16:16.30 | timinator | anytime |
| 16:18.35 | brasto | testing how to get rid of initial "jbot"... |
| 16:18.50 | brasto | ~brastotack mgeary |
| 16:18.50 | jbot | ACTION lectures mgeary on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until mgeary can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 16:19.00 | mgeary | ~preachtothechoir |
| 16:19.01 | jbot | ACTION intones solemnly, "databases should be normalized! You should never mix biz logic with display logic! Consolidate your logic into Classes!"... jbot looks at his audience. "oh, oops. wrong crowd." jbot turns around... |
| 16:22.31 | brasto | jbot, forget brastolook |
| 16:22.31 | jbot | brasto: i didn't have anything called 'brastolook' to forget |
| 16:24.20 | brasto | jbot: brastolook $1 is looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows the answer to $1's question... |
| 16:24.21 | jbot | ACTION $1 is looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows the answer to $1's question... looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:24.55 | wps | brasto… quit pinging me |
| 16:25.07 | brasto | sorry wps |
| 16:25.11 | wps | :) |
| 16:26.07 | brasto | ~brastolook brasto |
| 16:26.08 | jbot | ACTION brasto looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:26.30 | brasto | hmmm... that didn't change it... |
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| 16:41.26 | orsonj | jbot: brastolook $1 is <action> looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows the answer to $1's question... |
| 16:41.27 | jbot | ACTION $1 is <action> looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows the answer to $1's question... looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows... |
| 16:41.44 | orsonj | jbot: no brastolook $1 is <action> looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows the answer to $1's question... |
| 16:41.45 | jbot | okay, orsonj |
| 16:41.48 | wps | STOP! |
| 16:41.58 | orsonj | I think it's good now |
| 16:42.50 | orsonj | by pinging you do you mean having your nick in the line somewhere? |
| 16:43.02 | wps | yes |
| 16:43.04 | brasto | then brasto does this one last time... |
| 16:43.13 | brasto | ~brastolook |
| 16:43.29 | wps | each time my nick is typed, my client plays a sound and displays a growl message |
| 16:43.37 | wps | which generally is nice so that it gets my attention |
| 16:43.44 | brasto | ~brastolook brasto |
| 16:43.45 | jbot | ACTION looks at wps, thebigdog, mindjuju, macnewbold, and fungus, thinking surely one of them knows the answer to brasto's question... |
| 16:44.01 | brasto | k, no more pinging wps from me for a while... |
| 16:44.46 | orsonj | I was thinking pinging was when people did "ping: nick" |
| 16:45.05 | brasto | thank you to orsonj and timinator for making future, not-so-frequent pings of doubleyou-pee-ess . |
| 16:45.28 | orsonj | heh |
| 16:45.46 | thebigdog | i wish mine would growl |
| 16:45.53 | wps | :) |
| 16:47.11 | brasto | cool... it growls... you have brasto's envy as well... |
| 16:48.32 | brasto | brb, moving work computer... |
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| 16:50.41 | orsonj | how about : ... looks at W P S, the big dog, mind ju ju, mac newbold, and fun gus, ... |
| 16:51.10 | orsonj | the last one doesn't split well |
| 16:54.21 | timinator | mine growls :) |
| 16:54.33 | timinator | thebigdog needs a mac |
| 16:54.47 | thebigdog | yes, working on management to get me on |
| 16:54.49 | thebigdog | one |
| 16:55.17 | orsonj | or a pair of speakers |
| 16:55.31 | PoeticIntensity | the site I'm going to be working on in a few months for the next year or so will definitely need to be Safari-capable.... |
| 16:55.38 | mgeary | HAH!! |
| 16:55.49 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) - I knew you'd get a kick out of that, mgeary |
| 16:56.02 | PoeticIntensity | I'm about 80% sure my boss will buy me some type of mac. |
| 16:56.40 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 16:56.51 | cole_joplin | I just bought my wife a MacBookPro |
| 16:57.06 | PoeticIntensity | It all depends on how compatible they want the site to be.... |
| 16:57.58 | PoeticIntensity | Safari has what..... like.... 3% browser-share? |
| 16:57.58 | mgeary | sounds about right |
| 16:57.58 | mgeary | just like Ferarri |
| 16:58.06 | PoeticIntensity | my awstats says 4% |
| 16:58.27 | PoeticIntensity | hey now, mgeary, don't be so quick to give! I might not get it..... |
| 16:58.51 | mgeary | hah |
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| 17:04.11 | timinator | running OS X |
| 17:08.27 | mgeary | that's awesome |
| 17:11.28 | orsonj | there is enough there for the other 97%, the chmod 700 is the whipped topping for those of us who know what it means. |
| 17:11.56 | mgeary | i suppose so |
| 17:13.11 | wps | that is pretty funny |
| 17:17.10 | timinator | I agree... very funny |
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| 17:18.06 | timinator | so.... I'm tempted, for the first time in my career, to store an array in a DB table, rather than make another table for the info |
| 17:18.13 | timinator | any thoughts on that |
| 17:18.22 | timinator | example: |
| 17:18.26 | mgeary | sure, i've done that |
| 17:18.52 | timinator | storing "1,5,8" in a TEXT field rather than making another table with 3 entries |
| 17:18.53 | mgeary | the biggest drawback, of course, is that you can't really *ever* search or sort on that data |
| 17:18.53 | brasto | timinator, remember that heirarchical data structured table I did for your rss feeds? |
| 17:19.04 | timinator | yes |
| 17:19.10 | brasto | infinite levels deep, properly normalized, easy to use, all one table |
| 17:19.15 | timinator | s/yes/brasto: yes/ |
| 17:20.50 | timinator | ya, but this is a table that's already built.... I just want to add "Special Instructions" for each entry, and would rather number them to a corresponding array in the script, since it's not that big of a deal |
| 17:20.54 | brasto | maybe it's not exactly what you are looking for timinator, since i jumped into the middle, but i'll see if i can find the link. |
| 17:21.10 | brasto | ah, i see |
| 17:21.15 | timinator | mgeary: no need to search... I think it'll be a good fit |
| 17:21.35 | timinator | thanks guys |
| 17:40.17 | mgeary | ah, but because volume gets squared every time surface area gets doubled, it'd take a disproportionate size increase in salt crystals to offset the increased volume |
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| 17:41.50 | PoeticIntensity | all you math junkies give me a headache. :) |
| 17:53.55 | wps | rotate as in animate? |
| 17:54.04 | mgeary | no |
| 17:54.10 | mgeary | run text at a 90-degree angle |
| 17:54.14 | wps | ah |
| 17:56.21 | mgeary | for tables with column headers wider than the column data |
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| 18:08.54 | macnewbold | mgeary: you can do it with image magick or GD if you want, though it will turn the text to images to do so |
| 18:09.17 | mgeary | yeah, i know |
| 18:09.19 | mgeary | done that before |
| 18:09.28 | mgeary | but it's not as graceful |
| 18:12.58 | macnewbold | no, not really. It can still be dynamic, and it is more flexible, but not nearly as elegant as a pure css solution could be if it supported that. |
| 18:57.16 | mgeary | relaying a question here from someone running (shudder) Apache on Windows-- |
| 18:58.03 | mgeary | has anyone here seen a situation where the REMOTE_USER environment variable isn't set when a request is made by IE? |
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| 19:16.25 | timinator | mgeary: never |
| 19:17.12 | timinator | anyone on a PC? what IRC client do you use? |
| 19:18.00 | thebigdog | timinator, xchat |
| 19:19.55 | timinator | cool, thx |
| 19:20.08 | thebigdog | there are some command line ones |
| 19:20.10 | thebigdog | mirc is ok |
| 19:20.39 | thebigdog | i bought xchat for windows years ago...so i have that going going for m |
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| 19:23.40 | burnin | no jsmith around? |
| 19:23.49 | burnin | is jsmith still heavy into the voip stuff? |
| 19:23.54 | mgeary | oh yeah |
| 19:24.07 | burnin | does he have a website? |
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| 19:25.28 | Utah_Dave | Ahh! I'm about to go crazy |
| 19:25.47 | burnin | Utah_Dave, you doing voip stuff? |
| 19:26.09 | mgeary | ~stevejobsify Utah_Dave |
| 19:26.09 | jbot | ACTION drags Utah_Dave by the scruff of the neck and plants him in front row center of the Moscone Center at the peak of Steve Jobs' keynote address until Utah_Daves eyes glaze over and he calms down |
| 19:26.57 | Utah_Dave | not right now. I'm babysitting a trainer. He's training these guys that are only going to be resetting passwords |
| 19:27.16 | Utah_Dave | And he's going through each server and telling them how much ram and hard drive space they have |
| 19:27.34 | Utah_Dave | and what services are running and all this detailed crap that they'll never need to know. |
| 19:27.47 | burnin | Utah_Dave, but weren't you starting up some voip business using asterisk? |
| 19:27.47 | Utah_Dave | I'm not sure I've ever been this bored before |
| 19:27.56 | Utah_Dave | burnin: yep! I did |
| 19:28.12 | burnin | Utah_Dave, cool, you doing consulting and what not as well? I may have a lead. |
| 19:28.43 | Utah_Dave | I do a bit of consulting. That's what I'm doing right now |
| 19:31.40 | burnin | Utah_Dave, do you have a website or something with experience, credentials, services, or something like that? |
| 19:32.12 | Utah_Dave | not yet. I've been planning on putting something up, but I've been too busy. |
| 19:32.22 | Utah_Dave | most of my consulting is from customer who already know me |
| 19:32.27 | burnin | Utah_Dave, a local company my bro works for just had their phone system crap out on them and they are trying to setup an asterisk server. |
| 19:32.48 | Utah_Dave | cool. How's it going so far? |
| 19:33.09 | burnin | dunno, they are working on it as we write. |
| 19:34.03 | Utah_Dave | fun. Asterisk under stress! |
| 19:35.13 | burnin | Utah_Dave, well, I'll tell him to drop in here if they reach a point where they want to call somebody in. He was asking about jsmith, he used to be my next door neighbor, but afaik Jared is out of town most of the time now. |
| 19:35.26 | Utah_Dave | Jared lives back East now |
| 19:35.49 | burnin | oh wow, I thought he was on the west coast, don't know why. |
| 19:36.02 | burnin | anyhow, gotta go, work and all... |
| 19:36.13 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 19:36.38 | Utah_Dave | I'm going to be in and out of the channel. Tell your brother he can email me if I'm not in here |
| 19:37.00 | burnin | ok, addy? |
| 19:43.01 | wps | slow day on the mailing list |
| 19:50.28 | SunSparc | http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Incredible_MMORPG_called_Outside_PIC |
| 20:09.56 | timinator | too funny |
| 20:10.06 | timinator | some of the digg comments are VERY funny |
| 20:10.31 | SunSparc | Yeah :) |
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| 22:19.41 | wps | unfortunately, all good things must come to an end |
| 22:21.10 | thebigdog | oh man i had a great lunch today |
| 22:21.30 | thebigdog | beef & chicken empanada and some gnocchis |
| 22:24.18 | mgeary_ | mexican + italian?? |
| 22:25.03 | PelaoFeliz | argentinan? |
| 22:25.15 | thebigdog | yep |
| 22:25.25 | thebigdog | it was so delicious |
| 22:25.39 | thebigdog | and i had a fantoche triple to finish it off |
| 22:26.56 | tierra | wps: did you do the Guy page design? that's some pretty sweet work... simple, and effective, and a bit a show-off factor |
| 22:27.02 | thebigdog | http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/amigofoods_1966_3585986 |
| 22:27.18 | wps | those will kill you, thebigdog |
| 22:27.23 | wps | I did, tierra. Thanks |
| 22:27.28 | thebigdog | they are killer good |
| 22:27.57 | influx^^ | guy page? |
| 22:27.59 | mgeary_ | that looks an awful lot like a Ding Dong |
| 22:28.06 | wps | isn't it a Ding Dong? |
| 22:28.07 | thebigdog | oh it does |
| 22:28.15 | wps | that's what I thought it was |
| 22:28.16 | thebigdog | alfajore |
| 22:28.22 | wps | ~alfajore |
| 22:28.23 | thebigdog | http://store.amigofoods.com/terma.html |
| 22:28.36 | tierra | influx^^: http://www.doba.com/guy/ |
| 22:28.59 | wps | I think it's so funny when websites display "hacker-safe" badges |
| 22:29.03 | wps | why would you want to tempt them? |
| 22:29.41 | influx^^ | Maybe making less knowledgeable customers feel safe > tempting haxors. |
| 22:29.43 | influx^^ | ?? |
| 22:29.51 | influx^^ | helping* |
| 22:30.30 | tierra | I've seen actual numbers proving that displaying that has boosted sales by a good percentage |
| 22:30.35 | tierra | enough to pay for itself |
| 22:30.35 | PelaoFeliz | the PCI (payment card industry) requirements state that a third-party security entity must validate your site starting next year... so everyone PCI certified will have that done, even if they don't advertise it... |
| 22:30.46 | tierra | not sure if it's enough if you actually were hacked |
| 22:31.45 | tierra | execs love stupid stuff like the "SSL Certified" crap |
| 22:33.28 | timinator | I heard there's nothing to their technology, just a bunch of BS |
| 22:34.08 | timinator | rather, it's just the logo |
| 22:34.12 | timinator | :) |
| 22:34.30 | tierra | it is ;) |
| 22:34.38 | wps | you know what hell is like? |
| 22:35.00 | wps | building web banner ads for eternity |
| 22:36.01 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:36.51 | timinator | so, are you saying that Satan is an Art Director? |
| 22:40.41 | influx^^ | He's the client. |
| 22:44.13 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:45.20 | influx^^ | "Can you make this pop more?" |
| 22:46.58 | influx^^ | Oh, before I go... |
| 22:47.06 | influx^^ | do you guys ever have your lunches in slc? |
| 22:47.09 | influx^^ | downtown even |
| 22:47.40 | herlo | influx^^: is Bountiful too far? |
| 22:48.13 | influx^^ | Kind of. I don't have a car, and I work on 2100 S and 54 W |
| 22:48.32 | influx^^ | Maybe I can work from home that day. |
| 22:52.51 | timinator | I'm out... later guys |
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