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| 00:30.26 | mindjuju | how funny, russians remake Married, with children http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/world/europe/10sitcom.html?ex=1347076800&en=5422e8763bca4ea3&ei=5124&partner=digg&exprod=digg |
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| 01:10.38 | mindjuju | you around herlo? |
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| 01:11.56 | mindjuju | curious, a visitor from TOR |
| 01:12.37 | mindjuju | nAmir , you using tor to do IRC? |
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| 02:21.34 | mindjuju | anybody have 2 sticks of 256mb pc100 SDRAM (SODIMM) ? |
| 02:21.37 | mindjuju | for sale |
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| 04:44.01 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm here now |
| 04:44.30 | Utah_Dave | me too! |
| 04:44.37 | mindjuju | hey, was just responding to a ping you left me last night, but never found out what it was for |
| 04:44.52 | mindjuju | sup utah_dave |
| 04:45.04 | Utah_Dave | just chilling in Philly |
| 04:45.31 | mindjuju | marriott resident inn? |
| 04:45.32 | herlo | mindjuju: I think you pinged me actually, ... |
| 04:45.43 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm in Hampton Inn in OC |
| 04:46.06 | mindjuju | yeah, this morn, but all i ever got was jokes |
| 04:46.18 | Utah_Dave | No, Holiday Inn. It's actually a pretty nice one. |
| 04:47.13 | mindjuju | that's cool too both. Utah_Dave - was wondering cause you'd mentioned your last place in cali was a stinker |
| 04:47.22 | mindjuju | and something about a friend who hooked ya'll up with a marriott |
| 04:47.47 | Utah_Dave | yes, Extended Stay America in Arcadia, CA is a crap hole. |
| 04:48.03 | Utah_Dave | Residence Inn in Arcadia, CA is wonderful |
| 04:48.55 | mindjuju | haven't been in a holiday inn for a while, haven't traveld for a while |
| 04:49.26 | mindjuju | hampton inn i know from virginia, pretty nice |
| 04:50.34 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 04:57.09 | mindjuju | ugh, this goofy lady here that somehow got put on as a project manager (who doesn't program in even 1 language) is REALLY chapping my hide |
| 04:57.32 | Utah_Dave | ~thsuck manager's who don't have a clue |
| 04:57.41 | Utah_Dave | ~thesuck managers who don't have a clue |
| 04:57.42 | jbot | ACTION (managers who don't have a clue is teh suck!) |
| 04:58.06 | mindjuju | :) - brain of a foozball, this one |
| 04:59.20 | mindjuju | she's saying the product she's responsible for is on track for launch, except... |
| 04:59.25 | mindjuju | it launches next week |
| 04:59.31 | mindjuju | requires a whole team to support |
| 04:59.36 | mindjuju | requires documentation |
| 04:59.40 | mindjuju | oh, and one other thing |
| 04:59.43 | mindjuju | it's still in dev |
| 04:59.50 | mindjuju | WHERE THE HECK IS THE BRAINS!!! |
| 05:00.16 | mindjuju | i mean, surely she realizes its going to take time to train people to support, right? |
| 05:00.20 | mindjuju | makes sense to me |
| 05:01.15 | mindjuju | for the company's sake, i hope the project doesn't fail, for my sake, I hope it fails enough that she gets pushed out of the way and a programming project manager gets hired |
| 05:02.15 | mindjuju | i hate having to dumbify things down to the point a 4 year old could understand |
| 05:03.34 | mindjuju | most of the time when you dumbify that low, the concept you were trying to convey are so abstracted, they no longer make sense in the big picture and all you have is a person who barely understands a concept that isn't accurate to the project as a whole |
| 05:22.56 | Utah_Dave | yuck |
| 05:23.23 | mindjuju | i'll stop ranting |
| 05:23.54 | mindjuju | anything good happen today utah_dave? |
| 05:24.32 | Utah_Dave | I had a pretty good flight to Philly, my hotel is pretty nice and it's across from a quaint historic Quaker church. |
| 05:24.39 | Utah_Dave | so that's all pretty good |
| 05:24.53 | mindjuju | what kind of rental car? |
| 05:25.00 | Utah_Dave | I signed a whole bunch of gpg keys today |
| 05:25.18 | Utah_Dave | no rental car this time. There's no parking downtown and I'm right next to the office |
| 05:26.12 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 05:28.06 | Utah_Dave | it just means I'll have to stay close to downtown |
| 05:28.32 | Utah_Dave | I guess there's a ton of stuff to see nearby. I think the Liberty bell is just around the corner |
| 05:29.11 | mindjuju | well, while you're there, see if you can find that one brick that hides Ben Franklin's hip psychotropic '60's glasses |
| 05:29.30 | mindjuju | hope you've seen National Treasure to get the movie reference |
| 05:37.45 | Utah_Dave | I saw the movie quite a while ago. |
| 05:38.08 | Utah_Dave | maybe I should rent it to brush up on my Philly history and historic landmarks! |
| 05:39.03 | mindjuju | :) |
| 05:40.42 | mindjuju | k, i'm going home now so i can get a bite to eat and watch a movie while i finish this project out |
| 05:40.47 | mindjuju | c ya'll |
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| 14:36.42 | orsonj | speaking of gpg keys, anyone know how to update the expiration date on one? |
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| 14:42.13 | SunSparc | orsonj: recreate it with a new date? |
| 14:42.48 | SunSparc | That is what you have to do with certificates. Are gpg keys similar? |
| 14:50.04 | orsonj | I read somewhere that you could update the expiration, but I can't find it anymore. |
| 14:50.43 | orsonj | I think it was so you didn't have to rebuild your web of trust every year or two. |
| 14:51.53 | thebigdog | orsonj, you can update it with the expire command |
| 14:51.55 | thebigdog | http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN329 |
| 14:52.21 | thebigdog | you remove the self-signature and add a new one onto the key |
| 14:54.48 | orsonj | thanks, I knew it was in there somewhere. |
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| 16:01.36 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:05.58 | orsonj | mmmmmm... pizza |
| 16:10.04 | mgeary | too early for pizza |
| 16:10.19 | cycokilr | what? blasphemy.. |
| 16:10.37 | timinator | mgeary-- |
| 16:18.30 | timinator | but then again |
| 16:18.44 | wps | weird |
| 16:18.49 | timinator | :) |
| 16:19.35 | wps | you guys hear that Super Dell is at it again? |
| 16:19.39 | cycokilr | yikes |
| 16:19.45 | wps | that guy is the biggest idiot that I have every heard of |
| 16:19.47 | SunSparc | What now? |
| 16:19.47 | mgeary | what's he doing now? |
| 16:20.08 | wps | he was buzzing some boats in the Salt Lake with his light weight aircraft |
| 16:20.32 | wps | I think it's one of those chairs with a big fan under a parachute things |
| 16:20.53 | wps | he was buzzing around and around like a buzzard and then dipping down and buzzing within ten feet of the boats |
| 16:20.55 | SunSparc | That guy is either going to kill himself or get himself thrown in jail. |
| 16:21.07 | wps | I hope he does kill himself |
| 16:21.35 | wps | I tired of hearing about him on the news and tired of our public resources being wasted on arresting him |
| 16:21.41 | wps | I feel bad for his wife and children |
| 16:21.52 | wps | I wonder how he provides a living for his family |
| 16:22.08 | wps | I can't imagine anyone taking him seriously in any business transaction or employment |
| 16:22.25 | wps | he should be committed |
| 16:22.26 | cycokilr | here's his rig: http://bp1.blogger.com/_6dl8dOiq_0E/RuaT5XuY0SI/AAAAAAAAAAY/X8U_LV7zJTg/s1600-h/DSCN5407.JPG |
| 16:23.06 | SunSparc | Cool |
| 16:23.08 | cycokilr | he's got the whole story (his side of it anyway ;)) on his blog.. http://dellschanze.blogspot.com/ |
| 16:23.46 | wps | he calls himself a "SUPERHERO icon & celebrity" on his own blog? |
| 16:24.05 | cycokilr | yeah, i got a kick out of that one.. |
| 16:24.26 | cycokilr | "says Utah Governor Candidate Dell Schanze." |
| 16:24.29 | cycokilr | nice |
| 16:26.30 | SunSparc | Wow, he is pretty good on that glider of his. |
| 16:27.20 | timinator | “It’s too bad that all of the media in Utah are liars and murderers,” he said. |
| 16:27.34 | timinator | ..."please pray for all the news people.” |
| 16:27.45 | timinator | Reference: http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_063134438.html |
| 16:27.47 | timinator | LOL |
| 16:28.12 | influx^^ | Blastetd Dell. |
| 16:28.20 | influx^^ | Blasted* |
| 16:31.28 | PelaoFeliz | “Vote for me and I will stand up for the people of Utah and lead the fight against the terrorist factions and complainers among us to help ensure truth, justice and the American way for all!! A few complainers should never destroy the freedom of the masses and the enjoyment of the majority!!!” |
| 16:31.40 | PelaoFeliz | It seems almost satirical |
| 16:32.06 | wps | SUPER DELL! |
| 16:34.09 | wps | anyone know how old his children are? |
| 16:34.17 | wps | they've got to get a lot of crap at school |
| 16:34.37 | thebigdog | they are home schooled |
| 16:34.45 | wps | why am I not surprised |
| 16:35.32 | influx^^ | Because you expected that? |
| 16:35.42 | influx^^ | ;] |
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| 16:36.49 | mindjuju | anybody want to provide some? |
| 16:36.53 | wps | sure |
| 16:36.56 | wps | I love giving advice |
| 16:37.28 | influx^^ | I'm (not) qualififed, but sure. |
| 16:37.34 | mindjuju | k, so here is the situation. this guy i manage is giving me HUGE problems. Blames everybody else when his projects go bad |
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| 16:37.45 | mindjuju | padded his resume and said he was a sound engineer |
| 16:37.55 | mindjuju | but leaves bleeps and other noises in our audio recordingw |
| 16:38.21 | mindjuju | is confrontational with upper management and blames them when thigns go bad between them and him |
| 16:38.46 | mindjuju | I want to can his butt, but one of the managers suggested i put him on probation first |
| 16:39.07 | wps | have you talked to him about it at all yet? |
| 16:39.08 | SunSparc | Make his probation 2 days long. |
| 16:39.37 | mindjuju | so the question is, if you have an employee who you've talked too on n occasions where n = some number close to infinity |
| 16:39.51 | mindjuju | suggested, encouraged, etc |
| 16:40.06 | wps | if you have only suggested and encouraged, then I wouldn't can him yet |
| 16:40.09 | mindjuju | yeah, talked to him about gravity of the situation many a time |
| 16:40.18 | wps | …unless he completely lied with his qualificates |
| 16:40.46 | wps | otherwise, I would have a frank-and-open sit down and explain the situation to him |
| 16:40.50 | wps | be sure to document it all |
| 16:40.56 | mindjuju | well, he's doing multimedia and he never mentioned he was colorblind until the problem was so glaringly obvious that it couldn't be hid |
| 16:41.13 | influx^^ | ... |
| 16:41.36 | wps | I would present it all to him in writing and have him sign it |
| 16:41.53 | wps | tell him that he has a week to be stellar or he is canned |
| 16:42.54 | influx^^ | i second this |
| 16:42.59 | wps | but, if you feel that you have already given him sufficient notice and time to improve, then I would just can him |
| 16:43.10 | wps | I would just make sure that it was official |
| 16:43.13 | influx^^ | Last chance in writing might be better. |
| 16:43.15 | SunSparc | Or just cut his brake lines and send him on a errand to Heber. |
| 16:43.15 | wps | (the notice) |
| 16:43.17 | influx^^ | yes |
| 16:43.41 | mindjuju | we'll i've given him a lot of warnings, but paper would be nice |
| 16:43.44 | wps | to make sure you (and your company), don't get in trouble, you'll want to make sure it's official and in writing |
| 16:43.50 | wps | paper is critical |
| 16:44.00 | wps | and don't beat around the bush |
| 16:44.59 | wps | sit him down and have a very frank conversation… "we feel like you exaggerated on your resume, you are confrontational, you are underperforming, and your quality is sub-par… we are about to let you go… if you want your job you will have to meet the following criteria within the next week" |
| 16:46.34 | mindjuju | that's sounding pretty good |
| 16:47.08 | wps | have your review and your requirements already written down before the meeting |
| 16:47.09 | wps | have a copy for him |
| 16:47.25 | wps | have him sign a copy |
| 16:47.50 | wps | (stating not that he necessarily agrees with the review, but that it took place and that he understands) |
| 16:48.17 | wps | you'll want to cover your butt on this especially if he has a disability |
| 16:48.36 | influx^^ | and if he ups and quits on the spot, good for you. |
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| 16:49.11 | mindjuju | true that |
| 16:49.14 | wps | you can't fire him for having a disability just because he has one… but you can if there is no way he can do his job (ie: working with color and is color blind and doesn't have any tricks up his sleeve to get around it) |
| 16:49.28 | mindjuju | i've got plenty of emails to document problems |
| 16:49.33 | wps | good |
| 16:49.56 | wps | how long has he been there? |
| 16:50.20 | mindjuju | just past a year |
| 16:50.37 | mindjuju | but previous department he worked in had issues with him too |
| 17:07.34 | macnewbold | http://digg.com/software/Software_for_Starving_Students_2007_09_release_now_available |
| 17:07.36 | macnewbold | title says it all |
| 17:08.37 | mindjuju | diggity dug! |
| 17:08.46 | mindjuju | SfSS is way cool |
| 17:10.02 | wps | someone needs to create CfSS |
| 17:10.14 | mgeary | Cookies for Starving Students? |
| 17:10.18 | wps | computers |
| 17:10.21 | mindjuju | Chererios for starving students? |
| 17:10.24 | wps | what are you going to run your software on? |
| 17:10.30 | mindjuju | oh, true that |
| 17:10.57 | mindjuju | i've got some boxes i'm trying to push out of my office, they need RAM and hdd, but other than that, they are pretty good |
| 17:15.31 | wps | I wish you could comment out a line in a style sheet with "//" |
| 17:15.47 | influx^^ | I think \ does it. |
| 17:15.57 | influx^^ | Maybe that's just in IE. |
| 17:15.59 | influx^^ | I don't remember. |
| 17:16.02 | mgeary | don't think so |
| 17:16.06 | wps | the only think that works for comments in style sheets is "/* */" |
| 17:16.12 | mgeary | i believe it's just /* */ |
| 17:16.38 | mindjuju | yup, but i think wps is saying for universally, right? |
| 17:18.36 | wps | yes |
| 17:20.31 | cycokilr | use REM.. |
| 17:21.22 | wps | rapid eye movement? |
| 17:21.24 | wps | ~rem |
| 17:21.25 | jbot | hmm... rem is a sort of relaxing band, who's famous song Imitation of Live was recently famous. |
| 17:21.33 | cycokilr | lame |
| 17:21.42 | wps | ~lame |
| 17:21.42 | jbot | lame is probably an LGPL MP3 encoder, #mp3encoder http://lame.sourceforge.net/ see http://www.apt-get.org/ apt-get sites |
| 17:21.42 | cycokilr | that's the worst possible def of rem.. |
| 17:21.55 | wps | ~sites |
| 17:22.04 | cycokilr | no, like this: 10 REM This program is cool |
| 17:22.15 | mindjuju | oh yeah! |
| 17:22.21 | mindjuju | rem = remark |
| 17:22.25 | wps | jbot, sites is a stage location within a well of a multiwell plate. |
| 17:22.26 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 17:22.26 | cycokilr | for REM(ark) |
| 17:22.33 | cycokilr | yeah, you got it. |
| 17:22.34 | wps | ~sites |
| 17:22.34 | jbot | from memory, sites is a stage location within a well of a multiwell plate. |
| 17:22.52 | wps | ~plate |
| 17:28.15 | mindjuju | jbot, dance |
| 17:28.16 | jbot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 17:28.26 | wps | nice |
| 17:28.37 | mindjuju | laughing too hard to type |
| 17:29.06 | wps | jbot, a plate is a type of dishware, being a broad, concave but mainly flat vessel on which food is served. Plates are commonly made from porcelain, plastic, or glass; occasionally, wood or carved stone is used. Some porcelain plates are decorative in nature and are meant to be displayed rather than to be eaten from. |
| 17:29.06 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 17:29.12 | wps | ~from |
| 17:29.12 | jbot | it has been said that from is Peru |
| 17:29.19 | wps | ~peru |
| 17:30.11 | wps | jbot, peru is a republic in western South America; achieved independence from Spain in 1821; was the heart of the Inca empire from the 12th to 16th centuries |
| 17:30.12 | jbot | okay, wps |
| 17:30.19 | wps | jbot, dance |
| 17:30.20 | jbot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 17:30.33 | wps | that's great |
| 17:32.31 | influx^^ | ~kanye |
| 17:32.34 | influx^^ | hmm |
| 17:32.52 | mindjuju | kanye like kayne west? |
| 17:33.01 | wps | ~west |
| 17:33.08 | influx^^ | yes |
| 17:33.17 | influx^^ | the one who thinks no one cares about black people |
| 17:38.57 | herlo | mindjuju: HIlarious! |
| 17:40.29 | mindjuju | http://www.billgood.com/vvilla/geordi.jpg |
| 17:41.03 | cycokilr | weird.. |
| 17:43.22 | mindjuju | hey cycokilr , you know dataw0lf, right? Where is he? |
| 17:44.44 | tierra | he's active today surprisingly in another channel... I hadn't heard from him in maybe a month until just yesterday |
| 17:45.02 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 17:45.05 | jbot | dataw0lf <i=dataw0lf@stderr.ws> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 32d 17h 57m 13s ago, saying: 'fungus: argh, you got to it first ;)'. |
| 17:46.12 | mindjuju | hmmm... not in #utah , is he on #2600 ? |
| 17:48.47 | cycokilr | sweet.. http://www.tekgallery.net/pinto911.jpg |
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| 18:04.42 | herlo | Software for Starving Students has just been released - http://digg.com/software/Software_for_Starving_Students_2007_09_release_now_available |
| 18:07.00 | wps | mindjuju: after you can the guy, you can use the UGAF job announcement list to find his replacement |
| 18:09.24 | cycokilr | wow, is that still the byu uug releasing that? |
| 18:11.31 | wps | ~slim |
| 18:11.33 | cycokilr | or i guess i should say, is that the same one? |
| 18:12.13 | mindjuju | cycokilr , from the FAQ on the site, it mentions them spinning off from byu uug |
| 18:13.47 | cycokilr | ahh, didn't see that part.. i must be getting old.. losing my sight man.. thanks.. |
| 18:14.44 | mindjuju | cycokilr -- you missed it cause you need to move your headphone down into Geordi position |
| 18:15.15 | cycokilr | sadly, my headphone batteries went dead yesterday and i forgot to bring replacements.. ;( |
| 18:15.21 | cycokilr | i fear they would not help.. |
| 18:15.31 | wps | ~ Geordi |
| 18:15.34 | wps | ~Geordi |
| 18:15.52 | mindjuju | dude, i think i'd call in sick before going to work without tunes |
| 18:16.00 | synic | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordi_La_Forge |
| 18:16.15 | cycokilr | syn/ack to the rescue!! |
| 18:16.22 | wps | ah! |
| 18:16.24 | synic | aaah yeah |
| 18:16.40 | tierra | I'd just go take 5 minutes to go buy some batteries personally |
| 18:16.50 | wps | jbot, Geordi is a regular character in the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation, played by LeVar Burton. He served as helmsman of the USS Enterprise-D in the first season, then occupied the role of the chief engineer for the rest of the series and in the TNG-era films. The character was named after George La Forge, a fan of the original Star Trek series who died from muscular dystrophy in 1975. |
| 18:16.51 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 18:17.00 | tierra | or better yet, go buy a pair of headphones that don't require batteries |
| 18:17.11 | cycokilr | but then they're not wireless.. |
| 18:17.27 | cycokilr | my wireless ones reach all the way to the other side of the office.. |
| 18:17.31 | tierra | in that case, you need a pair that have rechargable batteries |
| 18:17.39 | cycokilr | this could work.. hmm.. |
| 18:17.59 | tierra | at least, assuming you use your headphones as much as I do at work |
| 18:18.24 | tierra | they're on my head and playing something probably 80% of the time or more |
| 18:18.34 | tierra | 6+ hours a day |
| 18:18.39 | mindjuju | cycokilr - are your headphones just wireless or do they have noise canceling too? |
| 18:18.49 | synic | are they ever on your head not playing anything, but you just don't want your coworkers harassing you? |
| 18:18.55 | influx^^ | Just get a pair of headphones that get their juice from a mini nuclear battery. |
| 18:19.00 | synic | and if so, do you ever pretend you can't hear someone talking to you? |
| 18:19.02 | tierra | synic: haha, yes actually |
| 18:19.09 | cycokilr | i've done that too.. |
| 18:19.27 | synic | :D |
| 18:19.38 | cycokilr | i'm moving into my own office here soon then i won't need them much.. |
| 18:20.01 | tierra | nice |
| 18:20.05 | cycokilr | and me and the other guy in my current office just alternate days really.. so i don't use the headphones much anymore now.. |
| 18:20.15 | cycokilr | i was just feeling kinda left out.. |
| 18:20.19 | tierra | get a really nice set of speakers, and blast them in your office... hehe |
| 18:20.37 | cycokilr | mindjuju: they're just cheapo wireless ones.. well, not real cheapo.. but not fancy noise canclers.. |
| 18:20.53 | mindjuju | just wondering, was about to get jealous |
| 18:20.55 | cycokilr | i do have pretty decent speakers now.. |
| 18:21.00 | cycokilr | some logitech.. |
| 18:21.16 | synic | bump them and punch anyone who complains. |
| 18:21.38 | mindjuju | from the DI |
| 18:21.40 | cycokilr | i have and the institutional accounts department calls to ask what going on.. it's pretty funny.. |
| 18:21.46 | cycokilr | nice |
| 18:22.22 | tierra | that would be an excellent system for work ;) |
| 18:22.33 | mindjuju | with a subwoof! |
| 18:22.38 | tierra | oh yeah |
| 18:22.43 | mindjuju | i'm jealous |
| 18:22.45 | cycokilr | that it would.. |
| 18:22.52 | mindjuju | i don't have a decent subwoof |
| 18:22.54 | wps | logictech has one of the worst logos of all time |
| 18:22.59 | cycokilr | i only have the Z-4 sadly.. |
| 18:23.46 | mindjuju | wow, that speaker set would be freakin' awesome |
| 18:24.18 | tierra | doesn't actually have that at work |
| 18:24.20 | mindjuju | i was thinking of getting some nice speakers, then i figured, i'd keep my disco ones, and get a projector to display winamp visualizations on the wall |
| 18:24.24 | tierra | but it is an awesome system for home |
| 18:24.41 | mindjuju | then during work hours, it could display server stats, etc |
| 18:24.48 | tierra | I got that set for something like $120-$140 on newegg I think |
| 18:25.15 | mindjuju | hey, speaking of newegg, anybody know where i can get some pc100 SODIMMs ? |
| 18:25.24 | tierra | newegg? |
| 18:25.25 | tierra | hehe |
| 18:25.43 | mindjuju | looking for several sticks of 256mb, well, it's for an old laptop, so i'm looking for bargin basement cheap |
| 18:25.46 | tierra | are you talking about some old ram? |
| 18:25.47 | tierra | ah |
| 18:25.49 | tierra | I see |
| 18:25.59 | tierra | yeah, not really sure |
| 18:26.11 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm a cheap bastard, not looking to spend more than $10 a stick |
| 18:26.44 | tierra | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121121 <- $130 Retail, $110 OEM |
| 18:26.45 | mindjuju | my office was about to pitch 4 crappy laptops, so i combined them into 1 decent lap and gave it to my son |
| 18:27.17 | tierra | oh, wait a minute |
| 18:27.26 | tierra | $40 rebate... |
| 18:27.50 | tierra | $90... that's a nice deal |
| 18:28.39 | tierra | I probably bought that set maybe 6-8 months ago |
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| 18:45.32 | wps | I love shell aliases |
| 18:45.44 | mgeary | you mean like "carapace" ? |
| 18:45.55 | wps | carapace? |
| 18:46.04 | mgeary | ~define carapace |
| 18:46.04 | jbot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 18:46.09 | mgeary | ~dict carapace |
| 18:46.12 | wps | especially aliases + ssh keys |
| 18:46.22 | wps | HA HA HA |
| 18:46.28 | mgeary | thank you, thank you |
| 18:46.32 | mgeary | i'll be here all week |
| 19:04.49 | mindjuju | A guy walks into a psychiatrist's office wearing only Saran Wrap. The guy asks the doctor, ''What do you think is wrong with me?'' |
| 19:04.57 | mindjuju | The doctor replied,''I can clearly see you're nuts.'' |
| 19:08.24 | SunSparc | That was bad |
| 19:08.40 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:09.11 | influx^^ | heh |
| 19:09.58 | mgeary | what does "standalone" determine in an xml declaration? |
| 19:11.05 | mindjuju | The XML standalone element defines the existence of an externally-defined DTD. It is a value element and stores the data corresponding to the value of the standalone string in the declaration. It is always a child of the XmlDecl element. Valid values for the standalone element are yes and no. |
| 19:11.24 | mindjuju | from http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v6r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/ad06330_.htm |
| 19:11.28 | mindjuju | example on that page |
| 19:11.42 | mgeary | that's what i suspected. thanks |
| 19:12.15 | mindjuju | best seeker around! |
| 19:12.30 | cycokilr | oh man, you didn't.. |
| 19:12.41 | mindjuju | didn't... |
| 19:13.16 | mindjuju | ? |
| 19:14.44 | cycokilr | then let's keep it that way.. ;) |
| 19:17.43 | timinator | question for the group: |
| 19:18.13 | timinator | how does everyone format floating numbers into representations of money? |
| 19:18.31 | timinator | let me rephrase |
| 19:18.46 | timinator | if I have this: 123456789.123456789 |
| 19:19.07 | timinator | what is the best way to get this: 123,456,789.12 |
| 19:19.18 | cycokilr | with sprintf mebbe? |
| 19:19.24 | timinator | with "normal" rounding |
| 19:19.37 | mgeary | number_format |
| 19:19.43 | cycokilr | ahh, yes.. |
| 19:19.52 | timinator | nope.... number_format will remove the decimals |
| 19:19.55 | mgeary | no |
| 19:20.04 | mgeary | you can add a param to give # of decimals |
| 19:20.07 | cycokilr | not if you tell it not to.. |
| 19:20.09 | timinator | ah |
| 19:20.10 | cycokilr | yeah |
| 19:20.14 | mgeary | cha-ching |
| 19:20.24 | timinator | what if you want to ditch the decimals if they're 0 |
| 19:20.37 | timinator | so, 1234.00 would show as 1,234 |
| 19:20.44 | timinator | :) |
| 19:20.54 | timinator | I've got to make it all sorts of confusing |
| 19:21.43 | SunSparc | after you sprintf, check for 00 at the end and preg_replace it off. Or substr it. |
| 19:22.30 | mgeary | $decimals_to_show = (1234.00 == floor(1234.00)) ? 0 : 2 |
| 19:22.33 | mgeary | maybe? |
| 19:22.49 | timinator | is that more or less efficient than: |
| 19:23.09 | timinator | $a = explode(".", $float); |
| 19:23.10 | timinator | then |
| 19:23.21 | cycokilr | oh, interesting.. $num = "12345678900"; |
| 19:23.21 | cycokilr | print number_format( $num, 2); |
| 19:23.28 | cycokilr | that doesn't print what i would have thought.. |
| 19:23.32 | cycokilr | 12,345,678,900.00 |
| 19:24.11 | timinator | echo number_format($a[0]).($a[1]>0?rtrim($a[1], "0"):""); |
| 19:24.43 | timinator | cause that's what I'm doing now |
| 19:24.48 | timinator | and it's working fine |
| 19:25.07 | timinator | just a bit involved if there was some sprintf setting I didn't know about |
| 19:26.00 | timinator | oh, I missed the echo'd decimal point in the if statement |
| 19:26.02 | timinator | oops |
| 19:26.43 | mindjuju | ~holyhandgrenade |
| 19:27.19 | SunSparc | ~killerrabbitwithhugefangs |
| 19:27.40 | mindjuju | ~timtheshrubber |
| 19:27.48 | mindjuju | oh wait, i think that's |
| 19:27.52 | mindjuju | ~rogertheshrubber |
| 19:28.02 | SunSparc | ~bravebravesirrobin |
| 19:28.49 | mindjuju | ~theknightswhoformerlysaidNi! |
| 19:30.22 | SunSparc | ~theknightswhosayEkkeEkkeEkkeF'tangF'tangOléBiscuitbarrel |
| 19:30.52 | mgeary | and here i always thought it was *P'tang* |
| 19:31.34 | mindjuju | ~aGoodSpankingFromtheWomeninCastleAnthrax mgeary |
| 19:32.06 | timinator | ~thishasgonealittletoofar |
| 19:32.12 | timinator | :) |
| 19:33.16 | mindjuju | :( |
| 19:55.21 | timinator | who here uses Konfabulator? and who here uses a Mac Dashboard? |
| 19:55.32 | SunSparc | Dashboard |
| 19:55.59 | mindjuju | ~lart timinator |
| 19:55.59 | jbot | makes a balloon animal out of timinator |
| 19:57.10 | timinator | I'm thinking of making a widget that would appear to be a lava lamp or something, but it would actually connect to a server and check if the computer has been stolen. If so, it'd report the IP and stuff |
| 19:57.34 | timinator | if it's got a camera, perhaps I could get a few pics of the thief too |
| 19:57.42 | mindjuju | that's a cool idea |
| 19:57.47 | timinator | I think so.... |
| 19:58.07 | timinator | it wouldn't be in the BIOS, so it'd be gone if they wiped it |
| 19:58.20 | timinator | but it'd be cheap to operate |
| 19:58.21 | SunSparc | How would the lavalamp know the computer had been stolen? |
| 19:58.30 | mindjuju | except that when you know that rock key safes exists, then it kinda nulls it, doesn't it? |
| 19:58.47 | fungus | I am not sure about Konfabulator, but your idea won't work too well. |
| 19:59.00 | fungus | widgets should stop running when dashboard isn't activated |
| 19:59.02 | timinator | SunSparc: cause it's checking w/ a webserver.... if you lost your puter, you'd report it on that site |
| 19:59.35 | fungus | And if it doesn't stop running, it is eating up resources. |
| 19:59.37 | timinator | ya, but most people have Dashboard running by default |
| 19:59.57 | fungus | I was talking about activated (aka displayed) |
| 20:00.02 | timinator | ah |
| 20:00.03 | mindjuju | oh |
| 20:00.13 | timinator | ok.... there goes another million dollar idea |
| 20:00.20 | timinator | thx fungus |
| 20:00.28 | fungus | No your idea is good, just the implementation isn't too good |
| 20:00.40 | mindjuju | concur |
| 20:00.43 | fungus | Probably better to write a very lightweight daemon |
| 20:00.45 | SunSparc | Yeah, I still want a Lava lamp widget |
| 20:01.25 | fungus | I like the idea of having a stolen laptop phone home with details. |
| 20:02.42 | timinator | ya, they have that though fungus.... I was just thinking of something lightweight that could be a double protection.... and quicker to deploy/test/run-in-time-of-need |
| 20:03.18 | SunSparc | http://islayer.com/index.php?op=item&id=20 |
| 20:03.22 | timinator | I have one on my bios that'll take pics of the thief and record IPs |
| 20:04.21 | timinator | then it'll dim the screen till it's black (fake a hardware failure), until a tech plugs in, then it'll display a message that it's a stolen comp |
| 20:04.30 | timinator | and a phone # to call |
| 20:04.37 | timinator | for a reward |
| 20:04.39 | timinator | :) |
| 20:04.46 | timinator | perdy cool |
| 20:05.14 | timinator | so, my idea isn't original.... just thought I could create my own since I know JS and PHP |
| 20:06.10 | mindjuju | instead of fade to black, you should have it flash seizure inducing random color flashing. and then have a expansion PCMCIA card that has a stink bomb rigged |
| 20:06.23 | timinator | ya |
| 20:06.24 | mindjuju | so that when comp realizes it's stolen it activates the stink bomb |
| 20:07.41 | SunSparc | Gross |
| 20:09.11 | timinator | here's another lava lamp (in Apples top 50 widgets): http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/justforfun/plasmatubemotionlightwidget.html |
| 20:10.16 | SunSparc | Cool |
| 20:18.44 | thebigdog | dashboards are stupid imho |
| 20:18.57 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 20:18.58 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 20:19.23 | timinator | ~flip back to thebigdog |
| 20:19.23 | jbot | ACTION gives back to thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 20:19.57 | timinator | dang, it's not even 3 pm yet, and thebigdog is already flipping people off |
| 20:20.05 | unum | I'm glad I don't have many meetings |
| 20:20.10 | unum | though I do have one today |
| 20:20.20 | thebigdog | i flip off some people in the meeting today |
| 20:20.35 | timinator | who was the meeting with? |
| 20:20.42 | unum | our it manager does that |
| 20:22.52 | thebigdog | coo and marketing and sells |
| 20:23.14 | thebigdog | we where talking about what to put in certain data cells when there is an issues |
| 20:23.29 | thebigdog | so i told them i can put in .|.. ..|. in those cells |
| 20:23.36 | thebigdog | its was too funny |
| 20:23.40 | mindjuju | hilarious! |
| 20:46.43 | thebigdog | i love fixing peoples crap |
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| 21:49.25 | mgeary | later folks. off to parent-teacher conference |
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| 21:51.04 | brasto | anyone want to have the next uphpu mtg at Linux Networx again? |
| 21:51.23 | brasto | If so, I can make it so... |
| 21:51.43 | mindjuju | is there something wrong with where we have it now? |
| 21:51.55 | brasto | nope |
| 21:52.20 | PoeticIntensity | Linux Networx is closer to me! |
| 21:52.20 | brasto | I just remembered we had them here before, and now I work here, so I can be the rep that goes to the mtg... |
| 21:52.31 | wps | Linux Networx is easier for me to make it too, but I think that mindjuju's crib is more central |
| 21:53.27 | brasto | central to SLC, but not necessarily to all UPHPU members, unless you count the ones in Davis County... |
| 21:53.49 | brasto | but it's right off the freeway |
| 21:54.01 | wps | well, we have members from Spanish Fork to Ogden, so middle 123 is pretty central |
| 21:54.23 | wps | s/middle 123/123rd/ |
| 21:54.25 | brasto | timinator only needs to read back one line |
| 21:54.43 | timinator | I'm in Weber |
| 21:55.02 | timinator | perdy far north |
| 21:55.11 | brasto | and... all i have to do to make it to the meeting if it's at Linux Networx is... stay late at work... |
| 21:57.08 | brasto | using the word "perdy" brought back a random memory of an episode of the Beverly Hillbilly's when the young man in the family was nearly got caught by the police for something. He said: "whew! pert near got fatched!". |
| 22:02.17 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Geek Lunch Friday @1p in Bountiful (chipotle) Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 22:02.36 | mindjuju | SYN timinator |
| 22:02.55 | timinator | wassup? |
| 22:03.06 | mindjuju | hey, do you think you still might to make it out on Friday? |
| 22:03.14 | mindjuju | please please please! |
| 22:04.26 | timinator | unless something changes |
| 22:04.32 | mindjuju | Sweet! |
| 22:04.43 | timinator | but I'm golden otherwise |
| 22:04.50 | timinator | ya, fo sho |
| 22:05.02 | timinator | I'm stoked |
| 22:05.09 | timinator | who all has commited? |
| 22:05.37 | mindjuju | tierra, thebigdog, swb, you, me, i think fungus |
| 22:06.03 | mindjuju | last time we had it in bountiful, we had like 12 people, remember at that Italian restaurant? |
| 22:06.10 | mindjuju | gibba_ was there |
| 22:06.24 | gibba_ | <---- this guy |
| 22:06.42 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:06.48 | timinator | ya, the italian was great |
| 22:06.49 | gibba_ | Robintino's ... that place is horrible |
| 22:07.00 | mindjuju | gibba_ are you going to chipotle ? |
| 22:07.09 | gibba_ | maybe ... friday? |
| 22:07.13 | mindjuju | yup, this friday |
| 22:07.18 | mindjuju | 1p |
| 22:07.22 | gibba_ | i could prolly swing that |
| 22:07.26 | timinator | the food seemed good when we were there |
| 22:07.38 | timinator | the company was stellar though :) |
| 22:07.52 | gibba_ | i'm really snooty when it comes to italian |
| 22:07.55 | mindjuju | awesome! i called up chip and asked if they had wifi, and he goes, well, we don't but our neighbors do, and you can mooch from our place |
| 22:08.19 | mindjuju | their neighbor is Paradise Sandwich or something |
| 22:08.49 | thebigdog | ill be there |
| 22:08.58 | thebigdog | i am taking the afternoon off |
| 22:09.03 | mindjuju | dude, this is going to be a kick A good time! |
| 22:13.16 | wps | mindjuju: Geek Lunch on calendar and website |
| 22:13.32 | mindjuju | awesome -- thx! |
| 22:13.36 | wps | yup |
| 22:18.26 | thebigdog | finally i get to listen to some music |
| 22:18.30 | thebigdog | and start working |
| 22:19.03 | mindjuju | some LP would be nice right about now |
| 22:27.03 | mindjuju | hey brasto |
| 22:27.07 | mindjuju | why not go to #botpark |
| 22:27.09 | mindjuju | and show there |
| 22:27.23 | brasto | ~brasotack brian |
| 22:27.35 | brasto | oops... |
| 22:27.40 | brasto | brastotack brian |
| 22:27.44 | brasto | oops |
| 22:27.45 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:27.51 | brasto | ~brastotack brian |
| 22:27.52 | jbot | ACTION lectures brian on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until brian can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 22:28.16 | brasto | what are some other good ones? |
| 22:28.20 | brasto | ~yellow |
| 22:28.21 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, yellow is the color of your pee |
| 22:28.29 | brasto | ~brown |
| 22:28.30 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, brown is red + orange + blue + green + yellow |
| 22:29.22 | brasto | jbot, brian77 is ... well... he's weird... |
| 22:29.23 | jbot | brasto: okay |
| 22:29.30 | brasto | ~brian77 |
| 22:29.30 | jbot | well, brian77 is ... well... he's weird... |
| 22:29.50 | brasto | ~welcome brian |
| 22:29.51 | jbot | brian, Sup yo? |
| 22:30.29 | thebigdog | ~slap bradym |
| 22:30.29 | jbot | ACTION slaps bradym, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:30.34 | thebigdog | ~slap brasto |
| 22:30.34 | jbot | ACTION slaps brasto, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:30.38 | thebigdog | ~whaleslap brasto |
| 22:30.39 | jbot | ACTION beats brasto upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:30.42 | thebigdog | ~flip brasto |
| 22:30.43 | jbot | ACTION gives brasto the .|.. ..|. |
| 22:30.49 | thebigdog | ~melvin brasto |
| 22:30.49 | jbot | ACTION pulls brasto underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 22:30.53 | bradym | ~timattack thebigdog |
| 22:30.53 | jbot | ACTION grabs an axe and starts to cut thebigdog down to size! |
| 22:31.01 | thebigdog | ~lart brasto |
| 22:31.01 | jbot | shoves a crumpet down brasto's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 22:31.18 | *** part/#uphpu PelaoFeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 22:31.18 | thebigdog | ~whaleblock thebigdog |
| 22:31.19 | jbot | ACTION shields thebigdog with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 22:32.26 | brasto | ~annoy someone |
| 22:32.27 | jbot | ACTION dances around someone, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy someone to the maximum amount |
| 22:32.27 | thebigdog | ~lart brasto |
| 22:32.27 | jbot | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down brasto's throat until brasto puts on 150lbs |
| 22:32.53 | thebigdog | ~whip brasto |
| 22:32.54 | jbot | ACTION takes brasto outside to be thoroughly whipped by thebigdog |
| 22:33.04 | thebigdog | ~tunafart brasto |
| 22:33.04 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to brasto, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 22:33.06 | mindjuju | i wish Apple and Google would throw in together for the slice of the spectrum -- http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2007/tc20070910_014733.htm?campaign_id=rss_topStories |
| 22:33.07 | brasto | ~dic lart |
| 22:33.43 | brasto | what's the way to get a dictionary definition? |
| 22:33.46 | cycokilr | dict |
| 22:33.50 | brasto | ah... |
| 22:33.57 | brasto | ~dict lart |
| 22:35.21 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow.... I'm an id10t. |
| 22:35.44 | PoeticIntensity | Don't ya just hate those moments when you really get a vivid representation of just how stupid you can be? |
| 22:35.50 | PoeticIntensity | I not only hate that..... |
| 22:35.55 | PoeticIntensity | but I hate how often it happens to me. |
| 22:35.56 | PoeticIntensity | *sigh* |
| 22:38.42 | PoeticIntensity | thank you. |
| 22:38.48 | thebigdog | np |
| 22:38.54 | thebigdog | ~give PoeticIntensity a smile |
| 22:38.55 | jbot | ACTION gives a smile to PoeticIntensity |
| 22:39.06 | mindjuju | poor PI |
| 22:39.33 | thebigdog | ~give PoeticIntensity a cleveland steamer |
| 22:39.33 | jbot | ACTION gives a cleveland steamer to PoeticIntensity |
| 22:39.52 | mindjuju | jbot, dance for PoeticIntensity |
| 22:39.53 | jbot | for PoeticIntensity, dance with me! Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' Elive, stayin' Elive |
| 22:39.58 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... |
| 22:40.01 | PoeticIntensity | I've been thinking this whole time that the FCKeditor had some weird javascript in it that made it submit no matter what if a button was pressed (which I thought was a type=button).... |
| 22:40.18 | PoeticIntensity | turns out.... the button was type=submit the whole time. |
| 22:40.24 | PoeticIntensity | I've thought this now for at least 3 weeks. |
| 22:41.03 | PoeticIntensity | so..... of course it would submit, regardless of javascript verification.... |
| 22:43.37 | timinator | mindjuju: that's a very interesting article |
| 22:44.35 | PoeticIntensity | probably something similar... |
| 22:44.47 | thebigdog | oh how wrong |
| 22:45.22 | thebigdog | ~wiki cleveland steamer |
| 22:46.45 | thebigdog | i heard it once on family guy |
| 22:47.02 | PoeticIntensity | holy freaking cow. |
| 22:47.19 | thebigdog | back in like 2001 |
| 22:47.21 | PoeticIntensity | I feel...... filthy. |
| 22:47.28 | thebigdog | i think it is on the wiki there the episode |
| 22:48.24 | thebigdog | i guess i will not mention teabaggin then |
| 22:49.54 | brasto | topic change in order... anyone know how to make konsole open with several sessions at once automatically when launched - each session in a tab? |
| 22:50.09 | PoeticIntensity | can anyone possibly fathom how wonderful life would be if spam just.... simply... did *not* exist? |
| 22:50.16 | PoeticIntensity | how much easier programming would be.... |
| 22:50.29 | PoeticIntensity | sheesh... |
| 22:50.45 | PoeticIntensity | the bad intent of greedy people knows no bounds. |
| 22:53.54 | brasto | ~lol |
| 22:53.55 | jbot | rumour has it, lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 22:54.48 | brasto | but, technically, that's grammatically incorrect as well, unless one means "laughs out loud" instead... |
| 22:55.08 | mindjuju | timinator, about apple? |
| 22:55.21 | mindjuju | man, i hope they team up with somebody else and buy the spectrum |
| 22:55.44 | timinator | ya, it's great |
| 22:55.57 | brasto | jbot lol is also "Laughs Out Loud". |
| 22:55.57 | jbot | cannot alter locked factoids, brasto |
| 22:56.13 | brasto | ~thank jbot |
| 22:56.13 | jbot | sure thing, brasto |
| 22:56.58 | timinator | I'm out guys.... later |
| 22:57.02 | mindjuju | resolve to do work slipping, finding it hard to focus! |
| 22:57.05 | mindjuju | cya timinator! |
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| 23:42.33 | influx^^ | question: If I want to organize pulled entries by the entry's day, month, year, or two out of the three, would it be better to have each thing in a separate column in the table? |
| 23:43.28 | influx^^ | Or would I be fine manipulating date strings that are in a single column? |
| 23:43.48 | influx^^ | I imagine it would be easier to work with separate columns. |
| 23:50.20 | thebigdog | i usually never split date/datetime strings |
| 23:50.25 | thebigdog | easier to work with |
| 23:52.18 | orsonj | here is an example of what I use for my upcoming birthday php app. |
| 23:52.19 | orsonj | http://pastebin.ca/692872 |
| 23:53.44 | thebigdog | u can also use the date functions from the database too |
| 23:54.22 | thebigdog | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/date-and-time-functions.html |
| 23:54.25 | thebigdog | for mysql |
| 23:54.56 | thebigdog | pgsql - http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/functions-datetime.html |
| 23:55.23 | thebigdog | pgsql has an overlaps function that rocks my world |
| 23:56.40 | thebigdog | influx^^, however imho i would not break the date column into pieces |
| 23:57.43 | influx^^ | I can still sort by month, day or year then. |
| 23:58.50 | thebigdog | you can sort on the date |
| 23:59.49 | influx^^ | Right. |
