IRC log for #uphpu on 20070906

00:29.20bradymugh.. firefox is really starting to get on my nerves.. i've got 4 tabs open and it is using 3x more ram than eclipse... even when it's minimized it just keeps racking up the memory... wtf?
00:41.30mindjuju~flip firefox
00:41.31jbotACTION gives firefox the .|.. ..|.
00:45.59bradymif not for the extensions, i would have ditched firefox for opera long ago
00:46.15mindjuju~lart firefox
00:46.15jbotexecutes killall -KILL firefox
00:46.43bradymnice :)
01:09.24mindjujuman, what i wouldn't give for some Dallas Funk Factory
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02:14.28mindjujuwow, i remember when salt lake city help wanted.com was free, now its $238!
02:14.32mindjujuwhat the heck!
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04:47.16influx^^?
04:47.29influx^^url?
04:48.47mindjujuurl?
04:52.14influx^^nothing nothing
04:56.30influx^^i was wondering what the url to salt lake city help wanted was, but then I re-read the line
04:57.15mindjujusorry bout that -- http://www.saltlakecityhelpwanted.com/
04:57.25influx^^no worries
04:57.29mindjujuit was free for a couple of years, then pow, the start charging
04:58.08mindjujucan't imagine paying $268 just to post a job
04:58.29mindjujucourse, monster upped their rates, it's 3 ads for 1k
04:59.24influx^^eee
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06:00.46herloIt is now conference day!
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14:56.27SunSparc~morning Everyone!
14:56.28jbotACTION bends space and time, trapping Everyone! in a universe of eternal monday mornings
14:56.50SunSparcjbot, that was not very nice of you.
14:57.22influx^^~apb jbot
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15:07.00orsonjhmmmmm, jbot, playing hide and seek?
15:12.54SunSparcMaybe jbot is actually trying to get some work done today.
15:13.01SunSparcjbot, are we bothering you?
15:13.50SunSparcRobotic snob!
15:16.16thebigdogSunSparc, you ever create a toon on bloodscalp yet?
15:16.23SunSparcYep
15:16.33thebigdogyou play it?
15:16.36SunSparcSame name as my nick
15:17.02SunSparcI played it for a day, got it to level 5 I think.  Then went back to my pally on Trollbane.
15:17.13thebigdogoh man
15:17.15SunSparchehe
15:17.25thebigdogwhat toon did you create?
15:18.02thebigdoghorde right?
15:18.04thebigdogundead?
15:18.13SunSparcHorde, yes.
15:18.24SunSparcBE iirc
15:18.43thebigdogk im going to add it to my list
15:18.46SunSparcEither a priest or a paladin
15:19.02thebigdogif you get on i will play with ya
15:19.05SunSparcThose are my preferred classes
15:19.24thebigdogi have a be hunter and pally
15:19.29thebigdogi can do another one too
15:19.36SunSparcOk, tell me your nicks on Bloodscalp again so I can watch for you.
15:19.42thebigdogklytie
15:19.47thebigdogthat is my main
15:19.53thebigdogi am on that one alot now
15:20.08thebigdogso if you get on i will create another toon to run with ya
15:20.20SunSparcNice.
15:20.26thebigdogor run with my pally
15:20.32thebigdogor my hunter
15:20.38thebigdogmy hunter is my 29 twink
15:21.37thebigdogmy main is for pvp so im just grinding pvp and getting rep with factions
15:21.47SunSparcAh, I learned what a twink was the other day.  Funny appellation.
15:22.02thebigdogyeah...someday klytie will be a twink
15:22.10thebigdogit will take me about 6 months
15:22.26SunSparcWow, that is a long time.
15:22.45thebigdogyeah it takes time cause it costs so much money
15:22.59SunSparcYeah
15:23.07thebigdogim grinding mats for this http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23546
15:23.28SunSparcMy brother says he sees low level twinks in scenarios that are unbeatable.
15:24.00SunSparcWow!  Nice hammer.
15:24.14SunSparc108.5 dps
15:24.20thebigdogyeah that is wild
15:24.30thebigdogit will cost me about 1000g - 1500g
15:25.02SunSparcDo you find that having a single handed weapon and a shield is better or worse than having a really nice two handed weapon?
15:25.03thebigdogthe mats are so expensive...i farm them...but that is why it takes forever
15:25.16thebigdogSunSparc, depends on what i am doing
15:25.25SunSparc"mats"?
15:25.32thebigdogmats = materials
15:25.40SunSparcAh.
15:25.44thebigdogor in this case reagents
15:26.02thebigdogitems used to create things
15:26.11SunSparc1000g is an astronomical number for me, only having a character up to 28.
15:26.29thebigdogoh yeah...my flying mount was 900g
15:26.36thebigdogepic is 5000g
15:26.36SunSparcYeah, so are you a metalsmith then?
15:26.44thebigdognope
15:26.57SunSparcAlchemist?
15:26.59thebigdogi have a friend that is a blacksmith that can create it
15:27.04SunSparcAh cool
15:27.08thebigdogi am a miner and echanter
15:27.11SunSparcI am an alchemist
15:27.28thebigdogyeah that is nice one you get to 70
15:27.34SunSparcI have a friend who does some enchanting.  Pretty cool what you can do with that.
15:27.40thebigdognotice in the materials for that hammer
15:27.44thebigdogprimal might
15:27.56thebigdogalchemist do a transmute and they make a killing on that
15:28.32thebigdogi'll pay some alchemist a crap load of gold for those transmutes
15:28.39SunSparcSo I hear.  Should be fun when I get there.
15:28.48thebigdogoh yeha
15:28.53thebigdogwhen do you play?
15:28.58SunSparcThat maul only sells for 13g.  Sheesh
15:29.06SunSparcHighway robbery.
15:29.37thebigdoghaha...that is the vendor price "if" a vendor sold it
15:29.44thebigdognotice buyout price
15:30.06SunSparcI usually play in the evenings after 8 or 9 for an hour or so.  Then I try to hop on Saturday mornings.  I limit myself to 4 hours a week, that way I still keep my life and my marriage in tact.  ;)
15:30.07thebigdogthat is an average across servers if someone sells it
15:30.20thebigdoggood man
15:30.27SunSparcAh, I see.
15:30.31SunSparcYeah, I try.  :)
15:30.36thebigdogim usually on around that time too
15:30.59SunSparcCool, I will try to jump on there and see if you are on.
15:31.21SunSparcMy problem is that I know so many different people that all want to play but they are all on different realms.
15:31.22SunSparchehe
15:32.02SunSparcMakes it hard to play with everyone I want to.
15:32.19SunSparcSo much WoW so little time!!!
15:32.40SunSparcIf only I could make a decent living by playing WoW....
15:32.46thebigdogthat ok you can just move to bloodscalp and all is good
15:33.01SunSparclol
15:33.04SunSparcthat is what they all say
15:33.05SunSparc:)
15:35.16thebigdogno doubt i got toons on a couple servers
15:42.00Utah_Daveherlo: you around?
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16:28.46herloUtah_Dave: yes, whats up
16:32.10Utah_Daveherlo: I haven't been to a conference like this before. Is the dress casual?  Should I bring my laptop?
16:39.09Utah_Dave~tunafart mgeary
16:39.09jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mgeary, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
16:39.14herloUtah_Dave: dress casual, bring laptop
16:39.18Utah_Davepreemptive strike!
16:39.18herlo~beat mgeary
16:39.19jbotACTION beats mgeary with a very wet, sticky noodle
16:41.26Utah_Davethanks, herlo.
16:41.38Utah_DaveI didn't want to show up as the Geek among Geeks
16:41.58mgearyheh. speaking of which, did you guys read about that woman reporter at DefCon?
16:42.06mgearywho was "under cover"?
16:42.22mgearyshe got outed very publicly
16:44.32Utah_Daveyeah, that was funny
16:49.14mgearyi've got 2 servers on the same subnet, and i need to mount a volume on server B to server A
16:49.17mgearynever done that before
16:49.41mgearyany tips?
16:50.25thebigdogsamba or nfs?
16:50.48PelaoFelizI'd recommend samba over NFS
16:51.12PelaoFelizthough iscsi and its ilk are really nice
16:51.18mgearyhrm
16:51.29mgearyturns out that Server B isn't Linux, it's Windows 2003
16:51.35mgearyso samba, i presume
16:51.36thebigdogsamba then
16:53.40thebigdogsamba is really good overall too..i agree with PelaoFeliz...i have had major issues with nfs
16:59.05mgearycan you give me some starters? This is what i've tried:
16:59.24mgearymount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator,password=foobar //192.168.10.17 /shared_drive
16:59.31mgearyreturns "Could not resolve mount point /shared_drive"
17:06.35thebigdogmake sure you have that directory created
17:06.45thebigdogand make sure you are root when you mount that on linux
17:07.43thebigdogare you referencing the shared drive
17:08.00thebigdoglike this
17:08.34thebigdogmount -t smbfs -o username=<name>,password=<pass> //192.168.10.17/<share> /<mount>
17:09.04mgearyah, righto
17:09.22mgearynow /<mount> -- is that an existing directory on the local machine?
17:09.30thebigdogyes
17:09.34thebigdogyou need to create that
17:09.44thebigdogso i like to do this
17:09.49mgearybut it's just a normal directory, right? don't have to do any local smb config
17:09.52thebigdog/mnt/smb/<share>
17:10.04thebigdogso i will create smb dir under /mnt
17:10.12thebigdogthen put all my samba shares there
17:10.22thebigdogyep normal dir
17:10.44mgearyk, so, i guess one important thing to know would be the name of the sharepoint on the remote server, eh?
17:10.51thebigdogyes
17:10.55mgeary/x.x.x.x/sharepoint_name
17:10.57thebigdogyou can get that from smb command
17:11.24mgearycan you give me an example of that?
17:11.34thebigdogyou might have smbclient
17:11.39mgearyi do
17:12.05thebigdogsmbclient -L <host>
17:12.35mgearysmbclient -L user@<host> ?
17:12.51mgearysmbclient -L <host> prompted me for a pw, but it didn't like the password i gave it
17:13.04jsmith(or, sometimes you have to do smbclient -I <ip_address_of_host> -U <username> -L <host>
17:13.09thebigdog-U <username>
17:13.24mgearynice
17:13.43thebigdoghttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
17:14.28mgearywoot. that works
17:14.31mgeary~thebigdog++
17:14.35mgearymerci
17:14.36thebigdognp
17:14.59thebigdogsamba rocks
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17:18.15mgearyhow do users & groups & permissions work on samba volumes? i don't seem to be able to change the owner of a given (created) directory on the shared volume
17:22.48thebigdognot following you?
17:23.06mgearyi've made a new directory in the mounted volume
17:23.10mgearyand now i want to chown it
17:23.17thebigdogto what?
17:23.18mgeary"not permitted", though i'm root
17:23.21mgearyto apache
17:23.29mgeary(need to be able to move uploaded files there)
17:23.55thebigdogk what exactly does the share do?
17:24.10thebigdogyou have options on mount to specify users and groups
17:24.37thebigdog-o username=<name>,password=<pass>,gid=<gid>,uid=<uid>
17:24.59thebigdoglike this
17:25.05mgearybut then won't *all* files in the share be tagged with that gid/uid?
17:25.12thebigdog-o username=<name>,password=<pass>,gid=apache,uid=rhunter
17:25.28mgearyi mean, i suppose that's alright in this case, but it seems a bit coarse
17:25.30thebigdogyou have 2 sides
17:25.32thebigdoglinux and windows
17:25.53thebigdogyou can also do file perm masks too
17:26.04thebigdogfmask=664,dmask=775
17:27.05mgearyok
17:27.39thebigdogbut it depends on what you are trying to accomplish
17:27.56thebigdogi personally would not allow apache to access a samba share
17:28.07thebigdogto many issues to deal with
17:28.20mgearywell, can i mount just a directory of a share? kind of chroot it?
17:28.22thebigdogif you need to copy files then i would do a cron or something that can do that
17:28.34thebigdogyou should be able to
17:28.40thebigdog/<ip>/share/dir
17:28.46thebigdog\//<ip>/share/dir
17:28.56thebigdogirc strips stuff
17:29.04mgearyheh
17:29.04mgearyyeah
17:29.18mgearyokay, so i want to re-mount. how do i unmount it?
17:29.32mgearyumount /local/directory ?
17:29.56thebigdogyep
17:31.57thebigdogyou can also add that command to your fstab file
17:32.01thebigdogto mount on boot
17:32.10mgearyok
17:33.45mgearywell, the gid,uid works, but mounting a subdir doesn't. "You specified an invalid share name"
17:34.08thebigdogthen create another share on the box
17:34.12mgearyyeah
17:34.15thebigdogwindows box for that dir
17:38.23thebigdogexplorer window
17:38.27thebigdoggo to the dir
17:38.36thebigdogright click -> properties
17:38.47thebigdogsharing
17:38.50mgearygot it
17:38.55mgearyvielen dank
17:39.07thebigdogyou can also add users to the list and perms there on windows
17:39.23thebigdogi tend to create new users under windows for samba access so that i can set up login too
17:39.30thebigdogjust my way of doing it
17:39.56mgearyawesome, working now
17:40.02mgeary~thebigdog++
17:40.09mgeary~karma thebigdog
17:40.09jbotthebigdog has karma of 5
17:40.25mgeary~karma mindjuju
17:40.25jbotmindjuju has karma of 4
17:40.32mgearywell, there's that, at least ;)
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17:52.56mgearyis there a way i can test my fstab entry?
17:56.11mgearyah, got it
17:56.19beandogmount -a ?
17:56.39mgearyi just did "mount //x.x.x./myshare" without the options and it worked
17:56.47mgearypulled them from fstab
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18:27.39thebigdogyeah
18:35.52mgearyhmm
18:36.43mgearyso, i'm trying to get apache to modify this sharepoint directory. i get permission denied errors. i've tried "touch test.txt" as root and with sudo -u apache
18:37.45mgeary"ls" tells me that the owner of the directory is apache
18:39.13mgearyah
18:39.14mgearynevermind
18:39.25mgearytweaked the perms in Windows. fixed it
18:40.38thebigdoghaha
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19:18.23thebigdogi need a ups
19:30.08SunSparchauntingly sad song
19:31.32thebigdogi love when an arch goes together flawlessly
19:33.13thebigdognot alot of peps in here today
19:34.10SunSparcWhat you mean compared to the 29 we usually have?  Yeah, I guess we are missing 5.  :)
19:35.53mgearywe haven't heard much from PoeticIntensity lately
19:36.00mgearywonder if he's on vacation
19:36.36thebigdogi think work doesnt allow him to connet
19:36.49mgeary?? it used to
19:37.33mgearythat mount smb issue alone would have taken me 5x-10x the time if i didn't have my pals in #uphpu
19:38.36thebigdoggood to hear you got the help you needed
19:38.49mgearyyep, it's working great.
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20:03.39mindjujuyo!  what color is Gentoo?  is that purple or violet?
20:03.55mindjujuanybody?
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20:11.53thebigdogpurple
20:12.31mindjujuawesome, thx
20:16.57mindjujucurious, DI is playing a techno Eye of the Tiger
20:17.10mindjujuon DI - Breaks
20:17.19mindjujuwell, it's not the whole song, just the guitar into
20:29.08mgearyappropriate anthem for the end of summer
20:30.18mindjujuhey mgeary, is it true that the german equivalent to pigdog is a bad word?  swinehundt i think it is
20:30.59orsonjre: PoeticIntensity http://ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3217&user=1
20:31.06orsonjTitle: 2007 Monterey Trip - Day 6
20:31.58mgearymindjuju: yeah, though it's not a super offensive word these days
20:32.00mgearyschweinhund
20:32.28mgearybut it's certainly not appropriate for civil discourse
20:33.01mindjujuorsonj - you're a better man than I -- I would have dyed my hair blue with neon green
20:33.09mindjujuand let her be the peacemaker
20:33.54mindjujucourse, my mother in law was really Mrs. Empathy and non judgementalness
20:35.51mgearywell, birthDAY, anyway
20:36.00orsonjThat was PoeticIntensity not me
20:37.10mindjujuPoeticIntensity - you're a better man than I -- I would have dyed my hair blue with neon green -- and let her be the peacemaker
20:37.37mindjujuorsonj, you were at the meet time before last, weren't you?
20:37.58orsonjI haven't been to a uphpu event :(
20:38.11orsonjwell, here is my outline: http://picasaweb.google.com/orsonj/Other/photo#5087069662877464962
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20:40.16orsonjhmmm, nothing convenient
20:47.34orsonjhttp://picasaweb.google.com/orsonj/Other/photo#5107195406034299282
20:52.26wps_http://anavidesign.com/temp/orson.jpg
20:52.56mgeary;)
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20:57.02thebigdog~flip timinator
20:57.02jbotACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|.
20:57.10timinatorLOL
20:57.19thebigdog~better
20:57.19jbotmethinks better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better".
20:57.28timinator~flip back at thebigdog
20:57.28jbotACTION gives back at thebigdog the .|.. ..|.
20:57.47timinatoroops
20:57.54timinator~flip back to thebigdog
20:57.55jbotACTION gives back to thebigdog the .|.. ..|.
21:03.07mindjujumgeary , wps stretched the nose a bit
21:03.21mgearyyeah. was jibing orsonj
21:03.28mgearyears too
21:03.47thebigdog:)
21:03.56orsonjhttp://picasaweb.google.com/orsonj/Other/photo#5107199623692183970
21:04.08timinatorLOL
21:04.16wpsnice
21:04.57timinatoris that you orsonj?
21:05.09orsonjwith some additions, yes.
21:05.56timinatorLOL
21:07.01timinatorhere's me:  http://ithinkiknowitall.com/images/timothy.jpg
21:07.05timinatorfrom last year
21:07.24wpshow do the women keep their hands off you?!?!
21:07.36timinatorIt's difficult
21:07.44mgearyhere's me:
21:07.45mgearyhttp://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/27/97/23379727.jpg
21:07.56wpsexactly how I pictured you
21:07.57wpscrazy
21:08.03timinatorLOL
21:08.18wpsit is kind of weird to see pictures of people that you interact with each day… but only textually
21:08.18mgearythe funniest part is that there are 425,000 hits on google images for "dog with glasses"
21:08.34timinatorhuh
21:08.36timinatorcrazy
21:09.01wpsI've tried a Google Image search for "Justin Giboney" several times with no results
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21:09.59wpsha ha
21:10.04wpsthis is the one that came up for me: http://shearerfam.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/paisley_pool_3.jpg
21:10.11wpsimage googling "wade shearer"
21:12.02bradymbetter than the first result for my name...
21:12.03bradymhttp://www.esva.net/ghotes/virtualcems/cape/images/cp00665.jpg
21:12.14wpsnice
21:12.24wpswell, that was the first result that was actually me
21:12.42wpsthis was the first: http://www.filmreference.com/images/sjff_01_img0384.jpg
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21:13.27bradymnice
21:15.10timinatorhere's the first for me: http://blog.timothyhumphrey.name/photos/tim/images/2563/original.aspx
21:15.12timinatorLOL
21:15.26bradymlol - nice
21:15.30bradymi like the horns
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21:17.23timinatorthis came up before an actual photo of me: http://www.cleveland.com/images/hp/332/helicopter0811humphrey.jpg
21:19.03timinatoroh, I take that back.... this was a couple shots ahead:  http://timothyhumphrey.com/images/splash.jpg
21:27.43mgearyi don't suppose anyone here has ever tried to call a mysql stored procedure via ODBC...?
22:35.37cole_joplinI have, just not with php
22:36.17cole_joplinwhat's the issue Mike?
22:36.55mgearygot it fixed
22:37.02mgearygood ol' #mysql
22:37.03mgeary:)
22:37.26cole_joplindo you know of anyone who has done extensive AS2 to AS3 conversion?
22:39.45wpsall of the local "experts" are still using AS2
22:39.47wpsor even AS1
22:39.52SunSparc~wikipedia AS2
22:39.56cole_joplingranted, this proably the wrong room
22:40.08cole_joplinno actionscript
22:40.09wpsaction script
22:43.44cole_joplinthanks anyway, Wade
22:44.44cole_joplinbtw, I did find this: http://www.actionscriptcheatsheet.com/downloads/as3cs_migration.pdf
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22:58.36timinatorI'm out... later guys
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