| 00:13.48 | herlo | mindjuju: untrue! |
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| 03:13.18 | justingiboney | Good Evening UPHPU |
| 03:17.39 | mindjuju | night |
| 03:17.44 | mindjuju | well, not night, but welcom |
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| 03:25.34 | justingiboney | have you ever used google checkout to sell product? |
| 03:27.37 | mindjuju | haven't sorry |
| 03:27.52 | justingiboney | no need to be sorry |
| 03:28.03 | mindjuju | i think they've exposed some APIs for it, but not sure. I've used Authorize.net |
| 03:28.13 | mindjuju | it works wells, though youhave to go through a reseller |
| 03:28.17 | justingiboney | I am just looking for a quick way to sell product without having to do a lot of work |
| 03:29.03 | mindjuju | how many and how much? not to be nosy, but you'll want to check out the cost of doing business the Google way and the cost of doing business with just an online credit card processor like authorize |
| 03:29.23 | mindjuju | oh, and that question was rhetorical |
| 03:29.54 | mindjuju | so don't answer, but you know what i mean, if it is you who is doing the selling, see what google charges for their checkout service and compare to what authorize.net charges through a reseller |
| 03:30.10 | mindjuju | they may be similar enough, or they may be vastly different |
| 03:30.18 | justingiboney | honestly, I haven't checked prices. |
| 03:32.27 | justingiboney | google checkout is 2% + $0.20 |
| 03:33.14 | justingiboney | but if you use adwords you get breaksfor howmuch you spend |
| 03:33.19 | mindjuju | hmm... that's pretty good, if you do online credit card processing, you'll find out it is about that much, plus merchant account fees |
| 03:33.46 | justingiboney | https://checkout.google.com/seller/fees.html |
| 03:33.57 | justingiboney | and that doesn't starttill january. It is free until then |
| 03:36.00 | mindjuju | wow, that's hard to believe, but you're right, that's what it says |
| 03:36.31 | justingiboney | i was looking at checkout because I love their free analytics |
| 03:44.32 | justingiboney | the one thing don't like about these places is that they take the customer off the site for every item thy purchase |
| 03:45.31 | justingiboney | purchase = click on an item |
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| 04:01.29 | mindjuju | 10p, time to start the last phase |
| 04:01.37 | justingiboney | sweet |
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| 13:54.11 | Utah_Dave | hola, PelaoFeliz |
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| 14:26.31 | Utah_Dave | hey, jsmith. How's it going? |
| 14:27.00 | jsmith | Just stumbling back from my vacation |
| 14:27.07 | jsmith | So I'm overwhelmed with email, etc. :-) |
| 14:27.49 | Utah_Dave | joy. I just got back from a 3 week business trip. So I've been catching up for days now |
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| 14:46.48 | herlo | jsmith: where'd you go? |
| 14:47.37 | jsmith | herlo: Ireland, (missed Spain due to flight problems), France, Italy, Turkey, and Greece |
| 14:48.15 | herlo | jsmith: nice. I've been to Ireland (Cork) and to Croatia, but I'd love to see more of continental Europe. You and your wife? |
| 14:48.38 | jsmith | Yeah... ten year anniversary trip |
| 14:49.04 | herlo | jsmith: nice |
| 14:51.03 | herlo | jsmith: got lots of pics you'll be putting up on zooomr? |
| 14:52.25 | jsmith | herlo: Yeah, eventually.... gotta get caught up on work stuff first |
| 14:53.51 | herlo | jsmith: work? what's work? |
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| 15:03.51 | PelaoFeliz | Utah_Dave: Hola |
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| 15:11.33 | mgeary | morning |
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| 15:26.47 | PoeticIntensity | ugh...... |
| 15:26.55 | PoeticIntensity | don't go to any swimming pools this summer. |
| 15:27.09 | jsmith | Why not? |
| 15:27.28 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=personal_entry&eid=3183&user=1 |
| 15:27.30 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 15:33.07 | PoeticIntensity | *not* fun... |
| 15:34.08 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: i read about that |
| 15:34.20 | PoeticIntensity | nasty stuff. |
| 15:34.22 | herlo | apparently, you get bad diarrhea |
| 15:34.41 | PoeticIntensity | yup.... to me it is *quite* apparent... |
| 15:34.49 | PoeticIntensity | worst diarrhea I've ever head. |
| 15:34.59 | PoeticIntensity | ever. |
| 15:35.09 | PoeticIntensity | head = had. |
| 15:35.25 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: this article is from you? |
| 15:35.28 | PoeticIntensity | it is. |
| 15:35.39 | PoeticIntensity | that's my lil' ol' blog. |
| 15:35.58 | herlo | nice |
| 15:36.04 | herlo | sorry to hear that though |
| 15:36.20 | PoeticIntensity | I'm just glad it's over. |
| 15:36.42 | unum | so I'm talking to someone who want a webbased interface for uploading and storing files |
| 15:36.53 | unum | would you use postgresql for that |
| 15:36.56 | PoeticIntensity | <input type="file"> |
| 15:36.57 | PoeticIntensity | done. |
| 15:37.00 | unum | or store them in directories |
| 15:37.01 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 15:37.12 | unum | it's multiuser :) |
| 15:37.16 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) |
| 15:37.22 | unum | otherwise... |
| 15:37.41 | PoeticIntensity | I've always stored files in a directory and linked meta information through a db. |
| 15:37.48 | mgeary | me too |
| 15:37.53 | bradym | same here |
| 15:37.54 | unum | I once found the code to upload files ajax style |
| 15:37.58 | unum | I won't do that again |
| 15:38.05 | mgeary | oh yeah? |
| 15:38.07 | PoeticIntensity | o9h? |
| 15:38.08 | PoeticIntensity | oh? |
| 15:38.15 | PoeticIntensity | why not? |
| 15:38.35 | unum | mostly because it's not useful since the user has to disable a security setting in firefox |
| 15:38.40 | unum | maybe for an inhouse app |
| 15:38.45 | mgeary | ah |
| 15:38.50 | unum | I wrote that one for a girlfriend |
| 15:39.05 | PoeticIntensity | hmm... |
| 15:39.08 | PoeticIntensity | interesting. |
| 15:40.20 | unum | how would you make it so your script could acces the directory but people can't browse to it via apache |
| 15:40.38 | PoeticIntensity | put it in a directory that isn't in the web root. |
| 15:40.49 | unum | oh ya dud |
| 15:40.52 | unum | duh |
| 15:40.55 | unum | I knew that |
| 15:40.58 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) |
| 15:41.05 | PoeticIntensity | it gets the best of us. |
| 15:41.14 | unum | I've loaded files from tmp into a database before |
| 15:41.29 | mgeary | of course, the downside of that (i believe), is that you have to load the file into RAM to pipe it to the user |
| 15:41.35 | mgeary | via passthru or such |
| 15:41.35 | unum | so I knew I had access outside of web root |
| 15:42.14 | bradym | I haven't used it myself but http://swfupload.mammon.se/ looks like an easy way to have a nice interface for uploading files.. long as you're ok with using a little flash for it |
| 15:42.29 | mgeary | yeah, we use a home-rolled solution like that |
| 15:43.38 | unum | I could just send that to the client... |
| 15:44.25 | unum | this is just a side project that my brother found for me |
| 15:44.48 | unum | they said it would be cheaper for them to host if it was cgi/perl instead |
| 15:44.53 | unum | I thought that was odd |
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| 15:46.56 | bradym | that is very odd |
| 15:48.35 | unum | I said most places that offer perl should offer php |
| 15:48.47 | unum | now if you are using ms tech you'll pay more for hosting |
| 15:49.10 | PoeticIntensity | because ms tech is, ahem, of course, superior. |
| 15:49.25 | unum | I'm so mad, xmission offers free hosting to the democratic party so they bought a server install windows and are colocating their |
| 15:49.33 | unum | instead of using the free linux servers |
| 15:49.42 | unum | so I'm not helping with their major project... |
| 15:49.56 | unum | s/their/there |
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| 16:45.04 | PoeticIntensity | might be old news, but..... |
| 16:45.07 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13077 |
| 16:45.17 | PoeticIntensity | someone is finally taking the RIAA out to lunch... :) |
| 16:50.44 | unum | I love groklaw: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070625162738896 |
| 16:50.55 | unum | I think it's the same story |
| 16:53.24 | mgeary | ping SunSparc |
| 16:59.03 | SunSparc | pong mgeary |
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| 18:06.29 | bradym | ~deceptive file names-- |
| 18:06.49 | SunSparc | readme.txt.exe |
| 18:07.22 | PoeticIntensity | alrighty guys..... |
| 18:07.49 | PoeticIntensity | anyone know any comprehensive (or even sorta) lists of linux expos / conferences around the net? |
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| 18:18.07 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity just got some budget for some training/conferences, eh? :) |
| 18:19.05 | PoeticIntensity | bingo |
| 18:19.16 | PoeticIntensity | gotta tell em' how much to budget for. |
| 18:19.36 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/ |
| 18:19.39 | PoeticIntensity | that one looks good.. :) |
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| 18:32.23 | squitoey | Anyone familiar with CakePHP? |
| 18:34.01 | thebigdog | i thinik someone here is |
| 18:34.08 | thebigdog | ~wake #uphpu |
| 18:34.08 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on #uphpu and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 18:34.48 | Utah_Dave | _psychic_: is a dev with CakePHP |
| 18:35.15 | squitoey | I am having difficulty setting up some model associations. I have three tables: users, videos, and companies |
| 18:35.25 | squitoey | videos have a user_id |
| 18:35.33 | squitoey | users have a company_id |
| 18:35.37 | _psychic_ | Video belongsTo User, then, right? |
| 18:35.50 | squitoey | I need to make an association to Company from the videos model |
| 18:36.01 | _psychic_ | and User belongsTo Company |
| 18:36.02 | squitoey | I can't find anything about how to do this properly. Any thoughts? |
| 18:36.12 | _psychic_ | have you set up the assocs like I've outlined above? |
| 18:36.47 | _psychic_ | if you've got that setup |
| 18:36.51 | squitoey | Yeah. I have so I can get to companies from $this->Video->User->Company |
| 18:37.10 | _psychic_ | so how do you want the data? |
| 18:37.11 | squitoey | But I am trying to set up some pagination so that I can sort by the company_name |
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| 18:40.05 | _psychic_ | if you increase the value of the recursive var on the Model, it'll grab more data for you |
| 18:40.22 | _psychic_ | and you can use unbind- and bindModel() to play with sorting options in relationships on the fly |
| 18:40.54 | squitoey | Ah.. So I have been looking at doing the wrong thing. Ok, Thanks, I'll play with that a little |
| 18:46.42 | thebigdog | ~seen timinator |
| 18:46.44 | jbot | timinator <n=timinato@c-67-171-118-199.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 20h 8m 24s ago, saying: 'I'm out guys.... late'. |
| 18:59.27 | macnewbold | sup everyone? |
| 18:59.39 | macnewbold | anyone in here looking for work, or open to a change? |
| 19:02.31 | jsmith-away | Not I! |
| 19:05.31 | squitoey | Ok _psychic_, I have tried doing that, but how do I use bindModel to properly fetch the other table? It keeps trying to LEFT JOIN `companies` AS `Company` ON (`Video`.`company_id` = `Company`.`id`) I would like it to joing on (`User`.`company_id` = `Company`.`id`) |
| 19:05.58 | squitoey | I set the recursive level to 3 so it is associating Company to Users. |
| 19:06.07 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: what kind of work? |
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| 19:07.27 | Utah_Dave | contract? fulltime? |
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| 19:08.26 | timinator | *sniff |
| 19:18.29 | macnewbold | sorry, got pulled away. Yesterday my partner at Code Greene resigned, after 8 months of trying to figure out whether I would leave or he would leave or I'd stay and go part time. |
| 19:19.05 | macnewbold | anyway, he was putting off hiring and wouldn't let me hire anyone either (we were 50/50 partners, so couldn't do it without the other), but we really need some help |
| 19:19.26 | Utah_Dave | ooh. 50/50 partners is a bad idea |
| 19:19.31 | macnewbold | I've replaced him, new CEO/CFO starts tomorrow, and I've got the necessary support personnel in place, |
| 19:19.36 | macnewbold | but need more programming power |
| 19:20.16 | macnewbold | so we're taking resumes, and offering up to $500 bonus for someone who can start within a week |
| 19:20.33 | mgeary | wow, macnewbold, exciting/turbulent times |
| 19:20.35 | macnewbold | the job is totally fun, and we pay market or above market prices, with full health insurance benefits |
| 19:20.41 | macnewbold | yeah, completely |
| 19:21.24 | macnewbold | it's php/mysql work in a LAMP environment (with FreeBSD servers, plus osx for most desktops) with a lot of html/css work |
| 19:21.40 | macnewbold | we don't do flash in house, nor graphic design, though if you've got the skills we could keep it in house |
| 19:22.18 | macnewbold | we're looking for full time, on-site people, but part time moving to full time is better than nothing if you're the right person for the job |
| 19:22.28 | macnewbold | I can confidently say we've got at least 2 openings, potentially more |
| 19:23.44 | Utah_Dave | where's your office located? |
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| 19:24.36 | macnewbold | currently in foothill village, east side of SLC by I-215 and I-80 |
| 19:24.57 | macnewbold | within the year probably moving to murray, somewhere near an I-15 or I-215 exit, where they have utopia |
| 19:28.31 | macnewbold | one of our people commutes from utah valley daily, and another from west valley, out past bangerter hwy, but since we're close to the freeway, it's not terrible they tell me |
| 19:28.50 | macnewbold | when we're in murray it should cut another 15 minutes off the commute from down south |
| 19:29.07 | macnewbold | so anyone in here interested in chatting about the possibility? |
| 19:29.32 | macnewbold | I'll leave this open after I leave, in case someone reads this later |
| 19:31.25 | timinator | I wish ya the best on your search mac |
| 19:38.03 | macnewbold | thanks, timinator |
| 19:52.11 | orsonj | sounds like something I'd enjoy, but I don't think my skill set is quite up to par. (not to mention having to move) |
| 19:53.50 | macnewbold | yeah, if you like Logan a lot, a job in SLC might not work too well |
| 19:54.15 | macnewbold | once the first position or two are filled, we're open to hire entry-level people as demand dictates |
| 19:57.46 | orsonj | not so much that I like logan a lot, but I'd like to finish school before I move. |
| 19:59.05 | orsonj | but by the time I'm done with school, I'll have 6ish years (part time) experience doing this kind of work. |
| 20:04.36 | macnewbold | cool. finishing school is definitely well worth the time and effort, especially once you're already through the first year or two. |
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| 20:21.59 | thebigdog | haha...that is my age |
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| 20:24.16 | thebigdog | beandog you around? |
| 20:44.12 | timinator | thebigdog: remember this: |
| 20:44.31 | cycokilr | SWEET! |
| 20:44.37 | cycokilr | i have that CD man.. |
| 20:44.50 | timinator | NICE |
| 20:44.52 | thebigdog | no timinator i hate glam rock |
| 20:44.57 | cycokilr | lame |
| 20:45.04 | cycokilr | glam rock, rocks |
| 20:45.24 | thebigdog | i hate it |
| 20:45.39 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:45.42 | mgeary | only "Sister" band i've got |
| 20:46.32 | mgeary | bonus points for anyone who knows who deathtongüe was |
| 20:46.34 | timinator | this dates me.... I never owned Twisted Sister on CD, because I had cassette tapes then |
| 20:46.44 | mgeary | no googling allowed |
| 20:46.54 | thebigdog | ~wiki deathtongüe |
| 20:46.58 | mgeary | cheater |
| 20:47.02 | cycokilr | yeah, i have stay hungry on cassette still.. |
| 20:47.10 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:47.12 | mgeary | no takers on Deathtongüe? |
| 20:47.12 | cycokilr | i just got the cd cause it's easier to get decent sound off.. |
| 20:48.02 | mgeary | http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/ten_best_bands_that_never_existed.html |
| 20:48.09 | mgeary | look at the notes for #6 |
| 20:48.17 | mgeary | anyone remember the Bloom County cartoon strip? |
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| 21:07.58 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Meeting Thursday at 7. Sheri Bigelow presents on SEO and PHP. |
| 21:08.08 | mindjuju | thebigdog , sup |
| 21:08.20 | thebigdog | not much...you? |
| 21:08.27 | mindjuju | kickin' it, keeping it real |
| 21:08.33 | mindjuju | hey, i was wondering if i could have a favor |
| 21:09.17 | mindjuju | wondering if i could use that soundbyte you sent over a little while ago, that i was going to mix into a techno song, could i use that as test audio to the streaming server until just prior to meeting start? |
| 21:09.56 | mindjuju | don't want to get hit for copyright infringement, and that's the only thing i can think of that is prolly safe to use |
| 21:11.28 | thebigdog | haha...sure as long as i get that coool credit |
| 21:11.38 | thebigdog | i worked hard on that...my 15s of time |
| 21:14.18 | orsonj | there are always the bsd songs |
| 21:14.52 | mindjuju | bsd songs? |
| 21:15.05 | thebigdog | no use mine |
| 21:15.07 | thebigdog | :) |
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| 21:17.54 | mgeary | awesome song |
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| 21:26.37 | mindjuju | thebigdog, do you think the IRC for today's meet should be in this channel or should it be in something like #uphpu-meet ? |
| 21:26.50 | thebigdog | this channel |
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| 21:27.08 | thebigdog | you could switch it to moderated |
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| 21:29.44 | monkeyman | ~flip thebigdog |
| 21:29.45 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:30.02 | thebigdog | mindjuju, why do that |
| 21:30.03 | monkeyman | this is too cool, i love cgi:irc |
| 21:30.21 | mindjuju | k, anybody feel like doing some beta testing for me |
| 21:30.32 | mindjuju | hit 65.121.75.205 and jump into cgi:irc |
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| 21:31.28 | monkeyman | i wonder if freenode will limit us on an IP? |
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| 21:31.34 | toobig | they might |
| 21:31.41 | toobig | not sure |
| 21:31.44 | orson_cgiirc | nifty |
| 21:31.48 | monkeyman | i've seen other cgi:irc on freenode, but don't know the limit |
| 21:31.50 | toobig | i dont like these web ones |
| 21:32.02 | monkeyman | yeah, but this is for those who don't have irc installed |
| 21:32.07 | monkeyman | or don't want to go through the trouble |
| 21:32.21 | monkeyman | just trying to put up as many bridges so that we have as many people active in meets as possible |
| 21:32.30 | toobig | then they should install it |
| 21:32.46 | monkeyman | yeah, true that, but this is quick and dirty way to try to reach them |
| 21:32.48 | toobig | installing an irc client is not that involved |
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| 21:34.04 | AllYourBase | You have no chance to survive!!!! |
| 21:34.07 | AllYourBase | Make your time!!! |
| 21:34.10 | AllYourBase | HAHAHA!!! |
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| 21:34.51 | mgeary_cgi | well whee |
| 21:35.28 | mgeary | mindjuju: so, will this audio stream also be recorded? |
| 21:35.39 | AllYourBase | Better than nothing. Better even than some others. Not as good as Colloquy. |
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| 21:41.16 | mindjuju | k, gents, one last test, if you please |
| 21:41.20 | orson_cgiirc | not bad really. I have seen it once before |
| 21:41.23 | mindjuju | please go to this URL and tell me what you hear |
| 21:41.23 | mindjuju | http://65.121.75.205:8000/ |
| 21:41.35 | mindjuju | if all goes well, you're going to hear thebigdog |
| 21:41.42 | mgeary | aaaaaaahhhhhhh! my ears!!!! |
| 21:41.52 | SunSparc | I hear nothing when I go to that page |
| 21:41.54 | orson_cgiirc | I go there and hear nothing. |
| 21:42.10 | mindjuju | there should be a link on there to click to listen |
| 21:42.11 | mindjuju | nothing happens? |
| 21:42.11 | mgeary | hrm. |
| 21:42.14 | mgeary | iTunes doesn't like it |
| 21:42.19 | mgeary | that, or it's broken |
| 21:42.21 | thebigdog | oh that is great |
| 21:42.28 | orson_cgiirc | chicki chicki ba bow |
| 21:42.35 | mindjuju | it's an ogg feed, maybe need to switch it over to mp3? |
| 21:42.36 | SunSparc | I click to listen and get a download for: stream.ogg.m2u |
| 21:42.48 | mindjuju | orson_cgiirc - you can hear? |
| 21:42.48 | thebigdog | there is a great story behind that ogg file |
| 21:42.53 | mgeary | player recommendations for us Mac slaves? |
| 21:43.01 | orson_cgiirc | sadly, yes |
| 21:43.11 | orson_cgiirc | I am using vlc |
| 21:43.11 | mindjuju | mgeary, there is, let me see if i can find something |
| 21:43.14 | thebigdog | mgeary, vlc |
| 21:43.19 | mindjuju | ah, cool |
| 21:43.37 | mindjuju | so do ya'll think it should remain ogg or should we switch to mp3 for max compatibiltiy? |
| 21:43.40 | mgeary | AAAAHHHHH |
| 21:44.13 | thebigdog | no matter for me |
| 21:44.15 | mgeary | anyway, i ask again, mindjuju, will this be recorded? |
| 21:44.18 | thebigdog | i love ogg though |
| 21:44.23 | mindjuju | yeah, will be recorded |
| 21:44.30 | mgeary | k, i can't be online at 7 |
| 21:44.36 | orson_cgiirc | you need to change the stream Genre. Educational doesn't fit what's playing |
| 21:44.40 | timinator | mp3 for me... I'll be tied up at 6:30 |
| 21:44.51 | SunSparc | mp3 please |
| 21:44.59 | timinator | but I'd love to hear it at 5am on my way to work |
| 21:45.21 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 21:45.22 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:45.39 | timinator | ty |
| 21:45.40 | mindjuju | hang on quick sec gents |
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| 21:47.02 | mydarb | It's nice to see a web interface to IRC that doesn't require java |
| 21:47.32 | orsonj | ~lart the annoying loop |
| 21:47.32 | jbot | puts the annoying loop through a wood chipper |
| 21:49.10 | mindjuju | k gents, it's now streaming in mp3 |
| 21:49.16 | mindjuju | can i get you guys to test one more time for me? |
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| 21:49.38 | CGI328 | Hello? |
| 21:49.45 | mindjuju | helo cgi328 |
| 21:49.56 | CGI328 | (This is PoeticIntensity on CGI) |
| 21:49.59 | CGI328 | hehe.... |
| 21:50.04 | mindjuju | sup! |
| 21:50.07 | CGI328 | never done IRC through the web before. |
| 21:50.14 | timinator | oh, mindjuju.... I just meant that I need an mp3 that I can download and throw on my iPod |
| 21:50.25 | mindjuju | oh, thought you meant stream in mp3 |
| 21:50.34 | orson_cgiirc | mp3 stream works for me (windows xp, vlc portable, school's fast internet) |
| 21:50.34 | timinator | mp3 wasn't the important part, downloadable file was the important part |
| 21:50.34 | mindjuju | yeah, it'll produce an mp3 and we can post somewherez |
| 21:50.42 | timinator | coolio |
| 21:50.54 | timinator | I'll donate server space for the download |
| 21:50.57 | mindjuju | k, i think we have things in place for tonight, let's hope it all works together |
| 21:51.39 | thebigdog | oh man |
| 21:51.45 | thebigdog | that was the best |
| 21:52.01 | mindjuju | yeah, i just need to mix it in to something and i have the perfect video for it too |
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| 21:52.15 | bradym | great idea for the meetings mindjuju, i'm looking forward to being able to participate in meetings even though i'm in cali now :) |
| 21:52.28 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 21:53.42 | mindjuju | sug cgi374 |
| 21:53.49 | mindjuju | oops, meant to say sup |
| 21:53.58 | CGI374 | mindjuju: its herlo |
| 21:54.02 | mindjuju | yo |
| 21:54.14 | CGI374 | I'm a bit confused... |
| 21:54.20 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:54.22 | CGI374 | hold on |
| 21:54.35 | PoeticIntensity | bah.... |
| 21:54.39 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't get to hear thebigdog .... |
| 21:54.47 | thebigdog | it was great |
| 21:54.53 | thebigdog | the story is even better |
| 21:55.01 | PoeticIntensity | I missed it by seconds, I'm sure... |
| 21:55.06 | PoeticIntensity | first click, I got a silent stream... |
| 21:55.09 | mindjuju | oh, and FYI - we have Pizza for tonights meeting courtesy of Tek Sytems |
| 21:55.13 | PoeticIntensity | next one, "stream could not be found" |
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| 21:57.19 | timinator | well, hello web_timinator |
| 21:57.30 | web_timinator | ~flip timinator |
| 21:57.31 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:57.46 | timinator | geez, just trying to be nice |
| 21:57.54 | timinator | ~lart web_timinator |
| 21:57.54 | jbot | frags web_timinator with his BFG9000 |
| 21:58.04 | mindjuju | heh, too funny |
| 21:58.55 | timinator | what's Tek Systems? |
| 21:59.01 | timinator | do you have a URL? |
| 21:59.15 | mindjuju | tek systems is a recruiter |
| 21:59.19 | mindjuju | web is teksystems.com |
| 22:01.02 | CGI374 | mindjuju: so I am curious how this will work for the meet tonight. |
| 22:02.07 | herlo_web | orson_cgiirc: nice |
| 22:02.10 | mindjuju | well, we just tested the audio feed and it worked, so people will be able to hear sheri as she talks |
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| 22:02.25 | herlo_web | mindjuju, where did you test it? |
| 22:02.25 | mindjuju | then if they want to pose questions, they feed it into the IRC where we can see it and ask her |
| 22:02.34 | mindjuju | here, just like 10 minutes ago |
| 22:02.37 | mindjuju | both ogg and mp3 |
| 22:02.51 | mindjuju | if you scroll up you'll see people enjoyed thebigdog .wav file |
| 22:02.54 | mindjuju | it was on repeat! |
| 22:03.06 | mindjuju | minutes upon minutes of thebigdog |
| 22:03.10 | orson_cgiirc | I was wondering how it would work joining in the middle of something. every time I started the stream, it started at the begining of the loop. |
| 22:03.30 | mindjuju | that's cause the loop is only 3 seconds |
| 22:03.41 | herlo_web | yeah, that's what I was getting at. How do you make it stream? |
| 22:03.52 | mindjuju | when it streams, its streams realtime so you won't hear the beginning if you join late |
| 22:03.54 | orson_cgiirc | well, It made me wonder. |
| 22:04.08 | herlo | so we just click something and we're good? |
| 22:04.09 | mindjuju | you catch it from the realtime moment |
| 22:04.29 | herlo | where's the file we use? |
| 22:04.29 | mindjuju | it'll be recorded though, for people to download |
| 22:04.45 | herlo | mindjuju: this is very nice. How are you actually doing this? With Red5? |
| 22:04.52 | mindjuju | nope, icecast |
| 22:05.05 | mindjuju | icecast to stream and cgi:irc to handle IRC |
| 22:05.24 | mindjuju | and an ubuntu install i started about 3 in the am this morn |
| 22:05.49 | herlo | I got the irc part, and I have set up icecast, but how did you make it live. /me needs to go buy a microphone and play with it tonight... |
| 22:06.42 | mindjuju | not sure i follow question. do you mean how do you stream to icecast server? |
| 22:07.03 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm doing it with Fedora but yeah. How do you get the live audio to the icecast ? |
| 22:07.34 | mindjuju | herlo, look at this page |
| 22:07.35 | mindjuju | http://www.icecast.org/3rdparty.php |
| 22:07.36 | herlo | this part continually confuses me... |
| 22:07.45 | mindjuju | source client is what feeds icecast server |
| 22:07.52 | mindjuju | media players is what pulls from icecast server |
| 22:08.01 | mindjuju | i'm using the oddcast plugin into winamp 5 |
| 22:08.06 | mindjuju | that'll be the system we are using tonight |
| 22:08.08 | herlo | right, okay. I've been to that page like 100 times |
| 22:09.19 | herlo | and how are you getting her voice to the winamp plugin? microphone? |
| 22:09.25 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:09.43 | herlo | nice. Now to do it with video. |
| 22:10.30 | mindjuju | well, jayce is right, vlc does stream, and i didn't think about it having a capture feature, but it does |
| 22:10.38 | mindjuju | i've used it to stream video point to point |
| 22:10.46 | mindjuju | one install as server the other as receiver |
| 22:10.50 | mindjuju | played music vids that way |
| 22:11.00 | mindjuju | on a closed network, you won't have any probs |
| 22:11.52 | mindjuju | heck, it even does multicast if you want to hit several receivers at once |
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| 22:12.18 | mindjuju | (though, i've never done that before, the theory isn't much harder than 1 on 1) |
| 22:12.41 | herlo | mindjuju: we're doing this on Saturday btw |
| 22:13.00 | herlo | I've just got to get a dv video camera now, either rent or borrow one. |
| 22:13.01 | mindjuju | yeah, the real technological break through will be pushing pizza through tcp/ip to share on the eats |
| 22:13.06 | herlo | nice |
| 22:13.10 | mindjuju | performance audio will rent |
| 22:13.22 | mindjuju | we have contract with them and get all high end equip there |
| 22:13.23 | herlo | mindjuju: nice. Where are they? |
| 22:13.40 | mindjuju | practically downtown, i'll see if i can get you an address |
| 22:13.54 | herlo | mindjuju: I can go there on Sat afternoon then and see what I can do... |
| 22:14.52 | mindjuju | k, now i'm going to be honest, they may be a smidge more, aka you could possibly find cheaper, but on this stuff, we dont' take any chances |
| 22:14.53 | mindjuju | http://www.performanceaudio.com/ |
| 22:15.41 | mindjuju | here is rental page, with mics and everything |
| 22:15.42 | mindjuju | http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/rental.cgi |
| 22:16.37 | herlo | mindjuju: this is going to be awesome! |
| 22:16.42 | herlo | mindjuju: tx |
| 22:16.46 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:17.16 | SunSparc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.17 | SunSparc | Just record the audio, post the file on the web and send us a link. Or if you want to get fancy, make an XML file and list it in iTunes as the "UPHPU Monthly PodCast". |
| 22:18.36 | herlo | mindjuju: they don't seem to have video equipment like you said. Can you point me at the video cameras? |
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| 22:22.27 | timinator | I think that an iTunes podcast would make the UPHPU membership explode |
| 22:23.18 | SunSparc_ | It might give us a little more of an air of legitimacy. |
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| 22:26.56 | wps | I am so scamming someone's nick! |
| 22:28.33 | SunSparc | I can setup a podcasting account on one of my web servers. I have tools that make it as easy as uploading the audio file and clicking a button to automagically create the XML file that iTunes looks for. |
| 22:31.53 | bradym | mindjuju: not sure if you'd want to consider a voice chat option, but setting up a teamspeak server is pretty quick and painless.. http://goteamspeak.com - just as an fyi |
| 22:42.47 | mgeary | anyone have an Authorize.net contact they like working with? |
| 22:43.12 | mgeary | or do i take the luck of the switchboard? |
| 22:43.13 | herlo | Bob Mendoza |
| 22:43.49 | herlo | lol |
| 22:44.29 | herlo | mgeary: sorry, been a tense week, letting off some steam now |
| 22:46.45 | mgeary | anyone here have any experience doing reasonably large batches of transactions through auth.net? |
| 22:47.05 | bradym | mgeary: i'm pretty sure that macnewbold works with authorize.net quite a bit |
| 22:47.17 | mgeary | i'm thinking there has to be a better way than one-off-ing 5000 transactions at once |
| 22:47.44 | tierra | and that's a "no" on batch transactions |
| 22:48.34 | tierra | optikal would probably know about mass batch transation processing if he were in here... |
| 22:48.47 | tierra | oh yeah, is there a meeting today on SEO btw? |
| 22:49.07 | SunSparc | mgeary: I am an Authorize.net reseller. |
| 22:49.40 | mgeary | SunSparc: why am i not surprised...? ;) |
| 22:49.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:51.02 | SunSparc | I do not have a favorite support staff member at Authorize.net though. I usually just take the luck of the draw. |
| 22:51.54 | mgeary | SunSparc: it's been a long time since i've dealt with this stuff. How easy is it to issue a credit using auth.net? is it much different than doing a charge? |
| 22:54.22 | SunSparc | mgeary: yes, that easy |
| 22:54.29 | SunSparc | Just another option |
| 22:54.53 | SunSparc | You can log into the virtual terminal and select "Refund a Credit Card". |
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| 22:56.28 | mgeary | SunSparc: okay, so how about batching charges to 5000 different cards at once? |
| 22:57.22 | herlo | mindjuju: they don't seem to have video equipment like you said. Can you point me at the video cameras? |
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| 22:59.09 | timinator | I'm out... later guys... wish swb luck for me |
| 23:04.58 | thebigdog | fyi vlc does network streams too |
| 23:05.03 | thebigdog | i stream movies here with it |
| 23:09.46 | SunSparc | mgeary: As I understand it each transaction is separate. You could setup a script to process that many, one after another (foreach loop) until they are all done. That is something you can do on your own server. However, there is also an "Upload Transactions" feature that can be enabled in the Authorize.net backroom. |
| 23:09.51 | SunSparc | "The Upload Transaction Files feature allows you to upload a file containing multiple transactions to the Payment Gateway." |
| 23:10.08 | mgeary | how does that work as far as reporting failed transactions? |
| 23:10.40 | SunSparc | I am not sure, I have not used it, but they suggest keeping the max number of transactions at 1000, lest it timeout. |
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| 23:16.41 | mgeary | i assume that wouldn't apply for a CLI script that looped through 5000 transactions |
| 23:17.07 | SunSparc | No, because you could build in whatever error checking you want. |
| 23:17.44 | mgeary | well, yeah, and the timeout doesn't apply in a CLI environment |
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| 23:17.55 | mgeary | unless there's a timeout possibility on the other end |
| 23:18.01 | SunSparc | Right |
| 23:18.51 | SunSparc | There is always a possibility of timeout. :) Just the nature of the net. |
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| 23:24.18 | SunSparc_ | mgeary: Do you have access to an Authorize.net Backroom account? |
| 23:24.39 | mgeary | not currently |
| 23:25.20 | SunSparc_ | Then, I can send you the users guide, if you want. |
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| 23:33.32 | mgeary | sure |