| 00:04.53 | mindjuju | that |
| 00:04.58 | mindjuju | mgeary, that's creepy |
| 00:05.03 | mgeary | yeah |
| 00:05.09 | mindjuju | what part of town do you live? |
| 00:05.16 | mgeary | a pretty nice part of Provo |
| 00:05.21 | mgeary | very north-east corner |
| 00:05.30 | mindjuju | curious. I hope they don't come around where we live |
| 00:06.08 | mindjuju | don't like doing business on the doorstep |
| 00:06.14 | mindjuju | i like offices, storefronts, etc |
| 00:06.17 | mgeary | yeah |
| 00:06.22 | mindjuju | much to easy to be frauded on a doorstep |
| 00:06.52 | mgeary | or to feel intimidated |
| 00:07.08 | mgeary | "i know where you live" |
| 00:07.30 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 00:07.47 | mindjuju | i'm pretty aggressive when it comes to soliciting in our neighborhood |
| 00:08.13 | mindjuju | i call companies that leave door hangers and tell them the neighborhood has a no solicitation sign and that it make them look bad when they violate it |
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| 01:35.53 | mindjuju | good ole' beandog |
| 01:38.54 | beandog | holars |
| 01:38.56 | beandog | working hard |
| 01:39.01 | beandog | hardly working |
| 01:39.02 | beandog | take your pick |
| 01:39.03 | beandog | :) |
| 01:39.19 | beandog | watchoo doing mindjuju |
| 01:39.39 | mindjuju | hardly working right now, just monitoring a database backup and starting Die Hard p1 |
| 01:40.42 | beandog | nice. |
| 01:40.55 | mindjuju | yeah, first one is the best |
| 01:41.03 | beandog | I like that one |
| 01:41.06 | mindjuju | saw the second one, didn't like, afraid to see part 3 and 4 |
| 01:41.06 | beandog | man, its old though |
| 01:41.13 | beandog | which one is the one in theaters |
| 01:41.18 | mindjuju | part 4 |
| 01:41.21 | beandog | ah |
| 01:41.25 | beandog | is 3 the terrorist one? |
| 01:41.28 | beandog | I dont think Ive seen 2. |
| 01:41.54 | mindjuju | 2 was on an airplane or something with an airplane |
| 01:42.01 | beandog | oh yah? |
| 01:42.04 | beandog | definately havent seen that. |
| 01:42.07 | beandog | You gotta see 3. |
| 01:42.09 | beandog | its great. |
| 01:42.23 | wps | weird |
| 01:42.28 | mindjuju | what's it about? |
| 01:42.35 | beandog | terrorists in NY |
| 01:42.39 | beandog | its got Samuel Jackson in it |
| 01:42.41 | beandog | he does a great job |
| 01:42.42 | wps | GG let me bulk add all 230 uphpu-jobs subscribers |
| 01:42.54 | wps | but held the 200 for uphpu for moderation |
| 01:43.03 | wps | s/moderation/approval/ |
| 01:43.08 | mindjuju | cool, Samuel Jackson rox |
| 01:43.13 | mindjuju | wps, that's wierd! |
| 01:45.42 | beandog | weerd. |
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| 03:20.25 | justingiboney | Good Evening UPHPU |
| 03:34.41 | wps | I'm not getting my own posts either, orsonj |
| 03:34.51 | wps | let my try tweaking a setting |
| 03:36.16 | orsonj | It can drive someone nuts. I could see it in my google account, but not the one I was trying to get working the normal way. |
| 03:38.51 | justingiboney | i am guessing you don't see your own messages, becauseI gotboth |
| 03:42.05 | wps | ah-hah! |
| 03:42.11 | wps | it appears to be working much better now |
| 03:42.31 | wps | the messages are posting in an acceptably fast fashion and I am seeing my own posts |
| 03:45.19 | wps | wait… I think that that was just because I replying to both the list and the sender… and the sender ones were just going directly (and bypassing the list) |
| 03:46.19 | orsonj | odd, I haven't gotten any of your new test messages yet. I got the one because it was addressed directly to me. |
| 03:46.47 | wps | I don't know if the speed of GG email is going to be acceptable |
| 03:48.40 | orsonj | funny google ad "Orson Ringtones\nGet Orson Ringtones\nGet them complimentary" |
| 03:49.00 | wps | nice |
| 03:49.42 | orsonj | so, if anyone wants some exclusive Orson ringtones, see: Orson.ToneTunes4u.com |
| 03:54.53 | orsonj | wow, justin@...aol.com that has got to put a damper on your image as a geek. |
| 03:57.34 | orsonj | wps: any luck from your end? |
| 03:57.43 | wps | no… I'm about to turn this off |
| 03:57.45 | wps | this is a joke |
| 03:57.56 | wps | I'm not waiting 10 minutes for mail to be delivered |
| 03:58.01 | wps | … if ever |
| 03:59.32 | orsonj | yep, it seems quite flexible and user friendly. now if we could just get it to work.. |
| 04:04.00 | wps | this is making me mad |
| 04:04.06 | wps | I don't want to have to roll of this back |
| 04:04.28 | wps | s/of/all of/ |
| 04:09.24 | orsonj | I wonder if gg is making new accounts "no email" by default. |
| 04:10.14 | orsonj | If I click on "Edit my membership" using an official google account, there is a "no email" option. |
| 04:11.05 | orsonj | if you subscribe using the email uphpu-subscribe@googlegroups.com you probably can't access that page. |
| 04:15.45 | mindjuju | ugh, i hate trying to explain technical issues to nontechnical people who feign understanding and then ask stupid questions. This lady in this office is going to cause me to go insane |
| 04:21.24 | orsonj | ok, now that I had google bless my account, it seems to work. |
| 04:21.25 | wps | the janitors just arrived |
| 04:21.56 | mindjuju | holy cow! my office janitors turned on the office lights when you said that wps! |
| 04:22.05 | wps | whoa |
| 04:22.07 | wps | creepy |
| 04:22.23 | wps | mindjuju: I'm so mad at this mailing list situation |
| 04:22.29 | wps | everyone is going to hate me |
| 04:22.37 | wps | for jacking everything up and having to roll it all back |
| 04:22.47 | wps | Google-- |
| 04:22.54 | wps | jbot, spank Google |
| 04:22.55 | jbot | ACTION bends Google over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Google's pasty white buttocks. |
| 04:23.16 | mindjuju | sounds like we were between rock and hard spot with mail server having issues and trying tokeep things going |
| 04:23.22 | mindjuju | i think people will be sympathetic |
| 04:25.06 | orsonj | funny, I think I have about 3 google accounts now. |
| 04:44.29 | herlo | wps: we won't hate you if you roll it back |
| 04:44.34 | wps | k |
| 04:44.37 | wps | my butt hurts |
| 04:44.56 | wps | I've been in this chair for 15 hours straight |
| 04:44.58 | wps | :( |
| 04:45.08 | wps | only up for toilet trips |
| 04:45.47 | herlo | wow, sounds liek a fun day |
| 04:45.53 | herlo | :L |
| 04:46.36 | wps | why do people use <p><strong> instead of a header tag? |
| 04:47.26 | wps | (for a header) |
| 04:52.38 | orsonj | or <div class=header><span class=wrap><span style="font-size:150%">... |
| 04:55.35 | wps | my fingers are so tired from typing |
| 04:57.07 | herlo | wps: I've been that way for a couple months now with preparation for UTOSC. I sooo know what you mean. Make sure to take a break soon! :) |
| 05:21.01 | wps | I'm so hungry |
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| 05:22.45 | wps | thanks, mindjuju |
| 05:23.00 | wps | I hate the file server here at work |
| 05:23.02 | wps | it absolutely sucks |
| 05:23.05 | wps | it is SO SO SO slow |
| 05:24.44 | beandog | heh |
| 05:24.47 | beandog | whats it running |
| 05:24.51 | beandog | and why are you at work??? |
| 05:25.07 | mindjuju | yeah, know the feeling. that's why i repo'd everything and said i needed to manage. |
| 05:25.14 | wps | I can absolutely guarantee that it's running some sort of microsoft crap |
| 05:25.30 | wps | IT LOVES microsoft here |
| 05:25.33 | wps | they are best buddies |
| 05:25.40 | wps | they kiss and dance and hold hands |
| 05:26.08 | wps | at work because I have to finish a site for launch in the morning |
| 05:27.03 | beandog | oh |
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| 06:29.06 | herlo | mindjuju: I thought we had lost you! :) |
| 06:29.14 | mindjuju | nope |
| 06:29.25 | herlo | whew! |
| 06:29.39 | mindjuju | i'm having problems with a particular person who happens to suffer from Gran Mal Stupidity of the worse kind |
| 06:29.59 | mindjuju | she kept asking stupid questions, so I gave my war yelp, and quit my messenger until she left the office |
| 06:30.05 | mindjuju | hence i'm back, she's gone |
| 06:30.05 | herlo | is it a particular lady you might have been referring to recently? |
| 06:30.12 | mindjuju | yup |
| 06:30.16 | herlo | hehe |
| 06:30.56 | mindjuju | she's nice and all, but if she wants to handle technical projects, she REALLY needs to pick up some project management skills and learn some kind of programming language |
| 06:32.23 | mindjuju | brb |
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| 06:34.42 | mindjuju | hadn't restarted pidgin in like 2 weeks so didn't get notice that there was an upgrade until now |
| 06:38.44 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 06:38.52 | jbot | dataw0lf is currently on #utah #uphpu, last said: 'fungus: argh, you got to it first ;)'. |
| 06:48.33 | herlo | mindjuju: wow, I don't even restart irssi that often |
| 06:50.30 | herlo | s/ells liek/eels like/g |
| 07:00.08 | mindjuju | groove salad would be good in the daytime, but no where near the cadence i need for working in the middle of the night |
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| 07:25.01 | mindjuju | yup, you need some stronger music |
| 07:25.09 | wps | later |
| 07:25.10 | wps | I'm out |
| 07:25.48 | herlo | mindjuju: no, that's not it |
| 07:30.42 | mindjuju | ugh, i'm doing this major database reorganization, normalization, etc, and out of thousands of entries in this catalog, 2 are missing. I wonder if i should spend the time to write a query to compare the beforeTable and the afterTable or should i just feign ignorance? |
| 07:34.35 | herlo | ignorance gets my vote |
| 07:35.15 | mindjuju | yeah, that's what i'm thinking, i'll look for them when i'm doing my quality sweeps |
| 07:39.25 | herlo | :) |
| 07:40.42 | herlo | I'm really going to bed now... |
| 07:41.06 | herlo | I've got about 1/2 the profiles finished on utosc.org now |
| 07:43.28 | herlo | mindjuju: gnight |
| 07:43.36 | mindjuju | night |
| 08:08.55 | mindjuju | wow, herlo 's digg hit 1297 diggs for front page |
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| 09:12.25 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> meeting thursday @ 7 - Sheri Bigelow presents on SEO |
| 09:17.44 | wps | mindjuju: you still up working? |
| 09:17.55 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 09:17.59 | wps | question for you |
| 09:17.59 | mindjuju | what you doing up? |
| 09:18.18 | wps | finished working for my employer at 1:30 |
| 09:18.19 | wps | drove home |
| 09:18.28 | wps | spent an hour wrapping up something on a side project |
| 09:18.34 | wps | and now I am moving the lists back to Mailman |
| 09:18.36 | wps | :) |
| 09:19.18 | mindjuju | how is that coming? |
| 09:19.35 | wps | oh… nevermind… |
| 09:19.47 | wps | I was going to ask something, but just decided against that option |
| 09:19.58 | mindjuju | :) - well, that was easy! |
| 09:20.10 | wps | I should have this back up in a few minutes (assuming the DNS replicates quick) |
| 09:20.17 | mindjuju | i'll prolly be here another hour or so |
| 09:20.27 | wps | I wish I could be to the meeting Thursday |
| 09:20.36 | wps | I could probably actually make this one |
| 09:20.47 | mindjuju | did you shift the location of the DNS record or just change the IP for the MX record? |
| 09:20.48 | wps | except that I'll be at 13,000 feet somewhere in Wyomin |
| 09:21.03 | mindjuju | That sounds like fun. Flying or climbing? |
| 09:21.08 | wps | climbing |
| 09:21.10 | wps | just changed the IP |
| 09:21.38 | mindjuju | that should go relatively quickly, couple of hours, quicker if you up the TTL |
| 09:22.10 | wps | unfortunately, everydns.net doesn't allow you to pick a TTL |
| 09:22.18 | wps | but I can't complain… it usually updates within minutes |
| 09:22.26 | mindjuju | err, that was said poorly, when i said up, i meant lower to a smaller time to live |
| 09:22.29 | wps | I've never had to wait long |
| 09:22.34 | mindjuju | cool |
| 09:23.22 | wps | my poor little server |
| 09:23.32 | mindjuju | climbing will be fun. I'm taking a couple days off starting sunday and taking Tiffany to Park City to relax |
| 09:23.41 | wps | he has to feel pretty worthless |
| 09:23.52 | mindjuju | the mail server? |
| 09:23.54 | wps | I moved all of the mail accounts off of him this week… and he almost lost his lists too! |
| 09:24.16 | wps | nice… good to take your wife away for some relaxing |
| 09:24.40 | mindjuju | yeah, it'll be nice to take a vacation. Then big family vacation in October, Estes Park, Co |
| 09:24.52 | wps | I haven't heard of Estes |
| 09:24.56 | wps | what's there? |
| 09:25.03 | mindjuju | National Forest |
| 09:25.09 | mindjuju | tons of Aspen trees |
| 09:25.10 | wps | awesome |
| 09:25.17 | wps | sounds like my kind of place |
| 09:26.26 | mindjuju | yeah, Houston still has dense forest. when i was growing up, it wasn't half a mile to a small heavily wooded forest. so, while Utah is nice in all with the mountains, i miss the trees terribly. it was nice to just go and get lost for a while |
| 09:26.32 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Mailing lists back to normal; sorry for the shake up. Everything is back to how it has been the past several years. Don't forget the meeting Thursday at 7. Sheri Bigelow presents on SEO. |
| 09:28.19 | wps | can you try pinging mail.uphpu.org ? |
| 09:28.44 | mindjuju | 216.194.124.132 |
| 09:28.46 | wps | well, of course you can |
| 09:28.48 | mindjuju | works |
| 09:28.49 | wps | would you? |
| 09:29.00 | wps | awesome |
| 09:29.06 | wps | my house isn't seeing it yet |
| 09:29.16 | wps | you mind trying a lost to the list? |
| 09:29.23 | wps | you mind trying a post to the list? |
| 09:30.30 | mindjuju | test sent |
| 09:30.37 | wps | thanks |
| 09:30.58 | wps | sweet… it just hit the archive |
| 09:34.08 | wps | awesome and you message just arrived in my inbox |
| 09:34.14 | wps | your |
| 09:34.30 | wps | and I can ping it now as well |
| 09:34.35 | wps | nice to be back |
| 09:34.40 | mindjuju | 'twas a silly attempt at humor at 3:34a |
| 09:34.47 | wps | :) |
| 09:39.56 | mindjuju | i'm leaving for home here in a minute so i can get a bite to eat and finish up from there. anything else you need a hand with? |
| 09:40.19 | wps | nope… I'm good |
| 09:40.20 | wps | thanks |
| 09:40.22 | wps | have a good morning |
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| 16:28.11 | mgeary | okay, i've got a weird apache thing going ont |
| 16:28.13 | mgeary | *on |
| 16:29.06 | mgeary | aaahhh |
| 16:29.10 | mgeary | i see |
| 16:29.13 | mgeary | so, here's the thing |
| 16:29.23 | mgeary | when i go to "www.mysite.com/directory |
| 16:29.28 | mgeary | apache redirects to: |
| 16:29.35 | mgeary | mysite.com/directory/ |
| 16:29.54 | mgeary | presumably this is because "UseCanonicalName" is on, eh? |
| 16:30.24 | mgeary | yep |
| 16:30.30 | mgeary | whew. thanks guys! :) |
| 16:30.53 | SunSparc | No problem |
| 16:31.14 | mgeary | btw, SunSparc i didn't get a chance to try that verio upgrade last night |
| 16:31.22 | mgeary | 3 kids. bedtime. you know how it goes |
| 16:31.29 | SunSparc | I do, actually. :) |
| 16:32.01 | SunSparc | Although I sometimes throw WoW in there too. Gotta have priorities. |
| 16:33.46 | mgeary | heh. i've managed to stay away from WoW |
| 16:34.26 | SunSparc | Good for you. Don't give in. Or you will turn into a Zombie like some of the rest of us... |
| 16:36.27 | unum | I love that game |
| 16:36.34 | unum | those games and civ |
| 16:37.11 | mgeary | don't care much for civ lately |
| 16:37.19 | mgeary | the last 2-3 versions have been *yawwwwn* |
| 16:37.28 | unum | I really like civ 3 |
| 16:37.29 | mgeary | exact same gameplay, just different animations |
| 16:37.36 | unum | I haven't had a chance to play civ 4 much |
| 16:37.38 | mgeary | don't |
| 16:37.57 | unum | civ 3 has the borders and luxuries which really changes game play |
| 16:38.11 | unum | my computer doesn't have the power to run civ 4 and wine |
| 16:41.10 | SunSparc | StarCraft 2 looks cool |
| 16:41.15 | mgeary | it does |
| 16:42.45 | breec1 | Has anyone tried out BioShock yet? |
| 16:43.19 | SunSparc | Never heard of it. |
| 16:44.16 | SunSparc | I am telling you, once you start WoW you get sucked in and nothing else matter.s |
| 16:44.24 | SunSparc | Including grammar. |
| 16:44.57 | influx^^ | don't do it |
| 16:45.22 | SunSparc | What is BioShock? |
| 16:45.25 | influx^^ | WoW is the devil. |
| 16:46.51 | breec1 | I was hoping someone had played it and could give a review |
| 16:49.04 | SunSparc | http://www.gamespot.com/users/WaylanderFW/video_player?id=cnY2lTP95bgEvTTY |
| 16:50.48 | mgeary | doesn't appear to be by bioware |
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| 17:15.25 | wps | $fanny_packs--; |
| 17:15.37 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 17:16.00 | SunSparc | You have to admit, fanny packs are quite handy. |
| 17:16.12 | wps | I don't care |
| 17:16.16 | wps | they should be banned |
| 17:16.19 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:16.30 | SunSparc | What has brought this on? |
| 17:16.30 | wps | possessing one should be a federal crime |
| 17:16.47 | wps | just saw a photo of a guy wearing one |
| 17:16.50 | wps | burned my retna |
| 17:21.45 | mgeary | was he wearing sandals and socks? |
| 17:22.43 | wps | NO NO NO NO! |
| 17:22.44 | wps | stop \ |
| 17:22.54 | wps | that's an even greater offense! |
| 17:22.57 | mgeary | and a t-shirt tucked into his shorts? |
| 17:22.57 | wps | nasty, nasty |
| 17:23.03 | wps | oh… stop |
| 17:23.11 | mgeary | heheheh |
| 17:23.24 | wps | socks and sandals is so nasty |
| 17:23.39 | mgeary | especially dark socks |
| 17:23.46 | mgeary | sandals + black socks, now there's a classic look |
| 17:24.17 | SunSparc | LOL |
| 17:24.33 | SunSparc | and really short shorts? |
| 17:24.44 | SunSparc | And big sunglasses? |
| 17:33.00 | mgeary | and a scruffy beard |
| 17:34.00 | SunSparc | and a pronounced belly |
| 17:34.08 | wps | dang… worked through the night and I'm still not going to make my goal of launching today |
| 17:34.09 | wps | :( |
| 17:34.38 | SunSparc | That is because your mind is still reeling from the fanny pack incident. |
| 17:34.44 | wps | true |
| 17:44.08 | SunSparc | Here is something beautiful to take your mind off of the recent ugliness: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0708/tarantula_eso_big.jpg |
| 17:45.25 | wps | wow |
| 17:45.40 | mgeary | psht |
| 17:45.51 | mgeary | ;) |
| 17:46.35 | SunSparc | yeah |
| 17:52.31 | wps | I'm noticing an recent increase in people using "cheers" as an email salutation |
| 17:54.11 | wps | I find "cheers" an interesting salutation |
| 17:54.56 | wps | cheers seems more like a greeting or even more so, a verbal "high-five" that you would give in the middle of a conversation |
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| 18:02.41 | SunSparc | I get it from my brother who served his mission in the UK. |
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| 18:52.22 | wps | I just recruited a new member |
| 18:52.25 | wps | do I get a cookie? |
| 18:53.25 | orsonj | ~cookie wps |
| 18:53.44 | orsonj | ok... |
| 18:53.47 | wps | uh… perhaps something with sugar in it? |
| 18:53.56 | orsonj | jbot, give wps a cookie |
| 18:53.57 | jbot | ACTION gives wps a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. |
| 18:54.03 | wps | thanks! |
| 18:54.21 | wps | I'm so tired of executives using buzzword |
| 18:54.28 | wps | buzzwords |
| 18:54.47 | wps | there's a guy that has been calling a product page redesign a "microsite" for a month |
| 18:54.48 | wps | :) |
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| 18:55.06 | wps | it confuses people |
| 18:55.15 | wps | "ooo… we're creating a microsite?!?" |
| 18:55.20 | wps | no, it's just a single page |
| 18:55.24 | wps | :) |
| 18:58.25 | SunSparc | Buzzword happy Execs and other people with big heads are fun to mock. |
| 18:58.51 | wps | it's funny to watch them try to make it sounds sexier then it really is |
| 18:59.10 | wps | as they try to pump and sell it to others in meetings |
| 19:04.59 | wps | can you put that into a vertical pipeline and then pull the trigger on it? |
| 19:06.14 | orsonj | Right Away, Sir! |
| 19:07.38 | SunSparc | Make it so, Number One. |
| 19:08.32 | wps | I amazes me how many PHP programmers are in Utah that have never heard of UPHPU |
| 19:08.38 | wps | s/I/It/ |
| 19:09.20 | wps | oooO! |
| 19:09.24 | wps | I love molasses cookies |
| 19:10.04 | wps | it's funny how molasses smells so bad but taste wonderful backed into things |
| 19:18.47 | SunSparc | So true. |
| 19:40.51 | brasto | This is a test of the UPHPU Mail Server. This is only a test. Had this been a real test or warning, there'd be this loud shrill Mj/v |
| 19:41.03 | brasto | very funny mindjuju |
| 19:41.39 | brasto | my monitor needed cleaning anyway... |
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| 19:54.18 | mindjuju | thx brasto! |
| 19:54.31 | mindjuju | hey brasto, did mgeary get hold of you? |
| 20:07.56 | thebigdog | wps you would not like molasses if you ever smelled a milk + molasses enima |
| 20:08.12 | wps | nasty |
| 20:08.20 | wps | hey, mgeary |
| 20:08.29 | wps | add to that outfit we were building earlier… |
| 20:08.41 | wps | an early 90's breaded belt |
| 20:08.49 | brasto | mindjuju, nope |
| 20:08.56 | brasto | i was trying to reach mgeary just now |
| 20:08.58 | SunSparc | wrapped and hanging down |
| 20:09.06 | wps | exactly |
| 20:09.08 | brasto | i only read that email recently |
| 20:09.08 | mindjuju | he was having problems with verio and processes |
| 20:09.22 | brasto | ah, i can probably help with that |
| 20:09.38 | mindjuju | ~APB mgeary |
| 20:09.38 | jbot | ACTION calls Duane Lee to spray mace at mgeary |
| 20:09.48 | brasto | i sent a private chat his way, but haven't heard back yet |
| 20:09.51 | SunSparc | brasto: I was helping him, but you may have some ideas also. |
| 20:10.20 | brasto | i saw the email he sent me a couple days ago, but thought it was to the list and didn't read it until today |
| 20:10.39 | brasto | sounds good SunSparc, what did you try so far? |
| 20:11.12 | SunSparc | I introduced him to "vinstall" and suggested he upgrade his mysql install. |
| 20:11.20 | brasto | ~brastotack mgeary |
| 20:11.21 | jbot | ACTION lectures mgeary on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until mgeary can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
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| 20:20.34 | fungus | My 11-yr old niece loves MCR... should I be worried? |
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| 20:23.02 | SunSparc | As long as she is not doing drugs, she is probably ok. |
| 20:23.34 | timinator | or has a serious boyfriend |
| 20:23.37 | timinator | :) |
| 20:24.34 | wps | poor girl |
| 20:24.59 | SunSparc | Wow, there goes her childhood. |
| 20:25.06 | wps | she is going to miss out of a lot of youth |
| 20:25.40 | SunSparc | Is she going to put it up for adoption? |
| 20:26.18 | SunSparc | Not that it is any of my business. |
| 20:26.18 | timinator | nope |
| 20:26.39 | wps | wow |
| 20:26.39 | timinator | she's keeping him |
| 20:26.43 | timinator | yep |
| 20:26.44 | wps | well, I hope she does well with it |
| 20:26.52 | wps | will the father be involved? |
| 20:26.54 | timinator | I hope so too |
| 20:26.55 | timinator | nope |
| 20:27.02 | timinator | he's MIA |
| 20:27.02 | SunSparc | <my_opinion>She really should adopt the baby out</my_opinion> |
| 20:27.16 | SunSparc | Better for her and the baby. |
| 20:27.21 | wps | agreed |
| 20:27.22 | timinator | ya |
| 20:27.42 | SunSparc | But she may not realize that until years down the road. |
| 20:27.48 | timinator | lots of good people wanting white babies |
| 20:28.22 | timinator | my wife and I have thought of adopting babies from Russia.... or fostering children |
| 20:30.20 | timinator | what'd you think of it? |
| 20:30.37 | mindjuju | its hard work |
| 20:31.36 | thebigdog | anything with kids is hard work :) |
| 20:31.42 | thebigdog | especially teenagers |
| 20:31.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:32.01 | timinator | how's yours by the way thebigdog? |
| 20:32.25 | thebigdog | they are all good...getting ready for school...2 start tomorrow and they are excited |
| 20:32.42 | thebigdog | my youngest is sad he cannot go |
| 20:32.53 | thebigdog | mindjuju, 4: 3g 1b |
| 20:33.22 | mindjuju | 3g, that'll be fun when they are teenagers |
| 20:33.48 | thebigdog | he is the youngest too |
| 20:35.12 | timinator | congrats drip |
| 20:35.18 | drip | ty =) |
| 20:35.20 | herlo | drip: nice |
| 20:35.32 | drip | ages 5,4,3,2 |
| 20:35.34 | drip | lol |
| 20:35.35 | herlo | drip: she's already pregnant? W00t! |
| 20:35.36 | mindjuju | drip is getting married? |
| 20:35.42 | thebigdog | he just added water and they are like gremlins |
| 20:35.43 | drip | yep |
| 20:35.54 | herlo | drip: so they're due right before you get married? |
| 20:35.55 | mindjuju | cool! let's party! |
| 20:36.13 | drip | ok.. you can all come over and we'll have a sprinkler laying party. |
| 20:36.15 | drip | =P |
| 20:36.20 | drip | or sod |
| 20:36.23 | drip | or moving |
| 20:36.29 | drip | lol |
| 20:36.31 | SunSparc | Wow, 5,4,3,2 are all amazingly hard years with kids. |
| 20:36.44 | herlo | 5 isn't hard |
| 20:36.50 | drip | they actually do very well together. |
| 20:36.52 | herlo | 2&3 are especially hard |
| 20:37.04 | drip | yeah, they are the tough ones of the bunch. |
| 20:37.11 | drip | but even they do quite well. |
| 20:37.23 | drip | but they've all known each other their whole lives. |
| 20:38.18 | thebigdog | ~puck timinator |
| 20:38.38 | timinator | ~lart thebigdog |
| 20:38.38 | jbot | stamps thebigdog on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 20:38.45 | timinator | he he he he |
| 20:38.50 | thebigdog | now that is dataw0lf |
| 20:38.54 | thebigdog | ~lart timinator |
| 20:38.54 | jbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up timinator |
| 20:38.55 | mindjuju | that was beautiful |
| 20:39.03 | thebigdog | now that was better |
| 20:39.28 | mindjuju | i'm just waiting for the flip |
| 20:39.30 | mindjuju | ~flip thebigdog and timinator |
| 20:39.30 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog and timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 20:39.41 | timinator | LOL |
| 20:40.43 | Utah_Dave | timinator: being a foster dad was a rollercoaster ride. |
| 20:40.57 | Utah_Dave | It was worth it, though |
| 20:41.14 | Utah_Dave | we took in 3 siblings at once, so that added a lot |
| 20:41.23 | timinator | geez |
| 20:41.30 | timinator | did you have kids at the time? |
| 20:42.33 | Utah_Dave | nope. Went from 0 kids to 3 kids overnight. |
| 20:42.46 | timinator | what were their ages? |
| 20:42.51 | timinator | what probs did you see? |
| 20:45.12 | mindjuju | yup, utah_dave , good friend of mine in Houston was foster dad for hard to place teens and those that had just become wards of the state |
| 20:45.16 | Utah_Dave | 7, 6, and 4 |
| 20:45.45 | timinator | geez |
| 20:45.53 | Utah_Dave | The oldest had a hard time letting go of being in charge. He had been the "Dad" for a long time |
| 20:46.29 | Utah_Dave | A very common problem with foster kids is peeing and pooping their pants |
| 20:47.10 | Utah_Dave | the 2 boys had a lot of rages, especially at night. |
| 20:47.16 | timinator | that's sad |
| 20:47.21 | Utah_Dave | kicking walls, hitting, etc |
| 20:47.30 | Utah_Dave | basically the things they saw their dad doing |
| 20:47.39 | mindjuju | so he had teens constantly in and out and then had a couple that were more permanent with him. they did it as a job though since there was so many. taking some to court, some to doctor, all day, every day. |
| 20:47.46 | mindjuju | takes a special kind of person to be a foster dad |
| 20:47.49 | drip | herlo: no, my kids are 5 & 3. hers are 4 & 2. |
| 20:48.00 | Utah_Dave | We found a great therapist who helped out a lot. They made a lot of progress. |
| 20:48.06 | Utah_Dave | I wish we could have adopted them |
| 20:48.16 | mindjuju | it's tough work |
| 20:48.19 | timinator | same here |
| 20:48.29 | timinator | I respect the heck out of you both |
| 20:49.21 | timinator | oh.... oops..... I still respect ya mindjuju, even though it was your friend, not you personally |
| 20:49.53 | Utah_Dave | it does take a lot of work. I pretty much stopped doing anything else |
| 20:50.36 | mindjuju | heh, no worries, i'm glad to be in good company with ya timinator. you're a good man |
| 20:51.27 | timinator | you are in good company... this is a great group |
| 20:51.53 | thebigdog | ~hug everyone |
| 20:51.54 | jbot | ACTION hugs everyone |
| 20:54.58 | timinator | we're thinking of waiting till our youngest is 2, then offering to take a baby |
| 20:55.18 | timinator | then he/she would fit in with our family well |
| 20:55.24 | timinator | at least for the first round |
| 20:55.38 | herlo | drip: I got it. Mostly it was a joke. I understand those logistics as I almost married a girl a couple years ago with two and I have one of my own |
| 20:55.58 | Utah_Dave | later, everyone |
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| 20:57.46 | drip | =) |
| 20:58.15 | drip | and we both have custody of our children so we'll have them all the majority of the time. |
| 21:01.11 | timinator | been going on for years |
| 21:01.11 | drip | that sucks. I was pretty lucky. My ex didn't fight me at all for custody of my kids. |
| 21:01.23 | herlo | drip: yeah, I don't get to see my son much right now. He lives in OC and I live in Orem |
| 21:01.27 | drip | which surprised me |
| 21:01.38 | herlo | I see him once a month minimum |
| 21:02.02 | drip | herlo: ouch. |
| 21:02.02 | herlo | and I try to see him for at least 10 days a month, but most of the time that's a pipe dream |
| 21:02.31 | herlo | this month is a 4 day month, but at least its this weekend |
| 21:02.38 | drip | my kids are w/ me 12 out of 14 days per fortnight |
| 21:03.07 | drip | but the ex watches them during the day while I work. |
| 21:03.15 | drip | ...until they go to school. |
| 21:03.22 | drip | then things will change. |
| 21:03.33 | herlo | yeah |
| 21:03.42 | herlo | that's actually how it was until he moved last June |
| 21:03.54 | herlo | I saw him every week at least 3 days a week |
| 21:04.34 | herlo | When he was in kindergarten I went *every* friday and helped his class. It was a good bonding experience for him and I |
| 21:04.43 | herlo | he's starting 2nd grade next month |
| 21:04.56 | drip | I got lucky so I'm the one who chooses where they go to school, etc. |
| 21:05.05 | herlo | drip: I tell him every chance I get that he can't grow up |
| 21:05.24 | drip | lol.. yeah, no kidding. |
| 21:05.40 | herlo | drip: I tried, but my ex thought that I wouldn't care. It actually was one of the most important things to me and I still lost because "she didn't feel right about it" |
| 21:05.59 | timinator | that sucks |
| 21:06.08 | drip | yes it does. |
| 21:06.10 | herlo | kids should stay kids. he reminds me that he "can't stop growing up, even though I try" |
| 21:06.19 | mindjuju | wow, herlo 's digg is 3451. i wonder why it's on page 6 while 2 others on the same topic but less clicks are closer t the top? |
| 21:06.23 | herlo | :) |
| 21:06.35 | mindjuju | http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/21/comcast-is-starting-the-tiered-internet-whether-we-like-it-or-not/ |
| 21:06.36 | herlo | mindjuju: its because it was posted yesterday |
| 21:06.41 | herlo | mindjuju: check the top 10 though |
| 21:06.54 | herlo | mindjuju: right hand side, main page |
| 21:07.07 | herlo | mindjuju: oh, it just left |
| 21:07.23 | mindjuju | yeah, the other dude on the same topic is there |
| 21:08.58 | herlo | http://digg.com/news/popular/24hours |
| 21:09.53 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 21:19.44 | SunSparc | 太陽 |
| 21:20.32 | timinator | ~convert mandrin |
| 21:20.37 | timinator | dangit |
| 21:20.46 | SunSparc | Kanji, actually |
| 21:21.05 | SunSparc | ~translate kanji |
| 21:21.12 | timinator | what's it say? |
| 21:21.18 | SunSparc | Sun |
| 21:21.20 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:21.38 | influx^^ | wtf |
| 21:21.57 | influx^^ | I can see kanji, but not an o with an umlaut? |
| 21:22.38 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 21:22.41 | drip | looks like cave-dwelling markings to me. |
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| 21:22.57 | drip | tent.. |
| 21:23.00 | drip | man with rake |
| 21:23.20 | drip | =P |
| 21:23.37 | SunSparc | Just someone else's version of the alphabet. Our alphabet probably looks like boring stick drawings to others. |
| 21:23.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:24.01 | SunSparc | 星期日 |
| 21:24.05 | SunSparc | That is Mandrin |
| 21:24.22 | timinator | oh, ya.... I see the difference |
| 21:25.53 | mgeary | hrm |
| 21:26.07 | mgeary | i'm back from a meeting. Colloquy says there were some msg's for me, but i don't see 'em |
| 21:26.32 | mgeary | anyone here need anything from me? |
| 21:26.38 | mgeary | besides, you know, pizza and such |
| 21:26.47 | timinator | mgeary: not I |
| 21:27.02 | mgeary | :) |
| 21:30.13 | breec1 | Random question for y'all -- has anyone heard the term "in a coon's age"? |
| 21:31.46 | breec1 | I got a 'what the #@$!?' in response when I said it this morning... |
| 21:32.01 | mgeary | well sure |
| 21:32.09 | mgeary | i haven't seen you in a coon's age |
| 21:32.21 | orsonj | let's see, I see an a with a circle above it, something that looks like a gun target marker in a video game, a superscript a, an e with a forward slash above it, and the fraction 1/2 |
| 21:32.46 | orsonj | as for the mandrin, I see a few ae symbols cramped together followed by a Yen symbol |
| 21:33.15 | orsonj | those tend to look better on my linux box. |
| 21:33.36 | drip | breec1: yep.. heard it many times. especially in the south. |
| 21:36.22 | breec1 | k, thanks. I'm not crazy & rambling imagined phrases. |
| 21:41.31 | SunSparc | orsonj: Your irc interface obviously does not handle those unicode characters correctly. |
| 21:48.16 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 21:48.41 | mgeary | whoa, big spender |
| 21:48.54 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:58.23 | timinator | nothing less than 15" will do |
| 21:59.27 | fungus | Nothing bigger than 13" will do |
| 22:12.41 | timinator | fungus: LOL |
| 22:13.21 | fungus | 12" is the sweet spot for me. |
| 22:14.22 | SunSparc | Good thing they come in varying sizes. |
| 22:19.06 | fungus | Sometimes you feel like a nut... |
| 22:19.18 | orsonj | actually, I don't think it's my irc client. I use irssi and those characters show up properly depending on the computer I am at. I keep irssi running in screen and simply connect using whatever terminal is available. putty doesn't seem to handle unicode characters. (for example, the stars in your music ratings show up correctly some times, and as an odd collection of characters other times.) |
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| 22:33.20 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:35.38 | _psychic_ | Makes me wonder why they don't rip out their own alternators. |
| 22:35.50 | breec1 | Sounds like http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/The-Josh-Workaround.aspx |
| 22:37.22 | timinator | mindjuju: LOL |
| 22:38.20 | timinator | I'm out guys.... late |
| 22:41.53 | mindjuju | breec1 - that's a funny story |
| 22:48.27 | thebigdog | haha...josh is super cool |
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| 22:52.23 | thebigdog | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Good-Thing-we-Tested-It.aspx |
| 22:54.53 | mgeary | hah, that's awesome |
| 22:55.11 | mindjuju | hey mgeary, did you get to brasto before he left? |
| 22:55.29 | mgeary | no, i was in meetings, but i still need to try some stuff that SunSparc showed me |
| 22:55.31 | mgeary | gonna try that tonight |
| 22:55.45 | mindjuju | coolio, just lookin' out for ya bro |
| 22:55.45 | thebigdog | just drop them |
| 22:56.01 | thebigdog | i look out for ya...just drop them |
| 22:56.02 | mgeary | merci |
| 22:56.11 | mindjuju | heh |
| 22:56.14 | thebigdog | i have a client that uses verio and i hate it |
| 22:56.21 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:56.24 | mindjuju | colo is the way to go always |
| 22:56.26 | mgeary | that's the longer term solution |
| 22:56.34 | thebigdog | we just got a colo at xmission |
| 22:56.38 | thebigdog | seems to be working great |
| 22:56.43 | mindjuju | yeah, xmission rox |
| 22:56.44 | mgeary | the frustrating thing is that we already *had* a colo when we got the verio |
| 22:57.00 | mgeary | but the way the resellers represented the verio solution, it seemed like a good idea |
| 22:57.13 | mgeary | (basically they said it had huge scalability) |
| 22:57.15 | SunSparc | Colo is over-rated |
| 22:57.27 | mindjuju | psh |
| 22:57.29 | mgeary | (they forgot to mention that the # of procs was limited) |
| 22:57.43 | thebigdog | virtual is overrated |
| 22:57.43 | mindjuju | how could colo possibly be overrated? |
| 22:57.49 | thebigdog | exactly |
| 22:58.11 | mindjuju | your box + their fat pipe = heaven |
| 22:58.13 | SunSparc | Well, I guess both arguments are relative to your tasks. |
| 22:58.55 | thebigdog | what tasks are you refering too |
| 22:59.09 | fungus | colo = flexibility + maintenance, VPS = software flexibility + software maintenance, Virtual = no flexibility + no maintenance. |
| 22:59.09 | SunSparc | Colo is fun, if you want to maintain your box and have it exactly the way you want it with the parts you want. It is also fun when any of those parts go bad. |
| 22:59.27 | mindjuju | especially xmission colo, there are several great restaurants nearby. So i go in, do my work, eat lunch drive back to office, get gas reimbursed ... |
| 22:59.32 | SunSparc | Fungus = Correct |
| 22:59.35 | mindjuju | and get a break from the office |
| 23:06.42 | mindjuju | k, i admit it. i'm exhausted today, have a double helping crap load of stuff to do, but i'm hooked on worsethanfailure. came across this story that is abosoulety awesome, msspelling and all |
| 23:06.42 | mindjuju | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/The-Cool-Cam.aspx |
| 23:08.32 | mindjuju | i think part of my problem is herlo 's sonmafm.com 's groove salad. it's nice and calming... hardly work music |
| 23:15.53 | SunSparc | Have a great night all. |
| 23:21.50 | thebigdog | i hate trouble shooting network issues with hr over IM |
| 23:22.35 | mgeary | wow. that's almost as bad as troubleshooting email issues over the phone |
| 23:22.50 | mgeary | "can you help me set up my email on <some obscure program that you don't have>?" |
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| 23:25.15 | mindjuju | darn this groove salad |
| 23:25.56 | thebigdog | man this really sucks |
| 23:26.04 | thebigdog | im about ready to call it a dy |
| 23:26.18 | mindjuju | thebigdog , here is how you fix that stuff |
| 23:26.33 | mindjuju | say that the problem , "you think" is with their NIC, and they need to reboot |
| 23:26.46 | mindjuju | that'll kill the IM and you're free to go |
| 23:26.58 | thebigdog | yeah lol |
| 23:27.06 | mindjuju | and if it REALLY IS networking issues, the IM won't come back even if the computer turns back on |
| 23:27.09 | thebigdog | i remember doing tech support for dial up |
| 23:27.23 | mindjuju | yup, same here |
| 23:27.28 | thebigdog | some guy callled me and told me his internet did not work when he called tech support |
| 23:27.30 | mindjuju | we went all the way down to Shiva |
| 23:27.35 | thebigdog | i told him we get that alot |
| 23:27.39 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:29.03 | mgeary | later all |
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| 23:37.52 | herlo | mindjuju: somafm rocks! |
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| 23:54.18 | mindjuju | yeah, sure herlo! clearly a misspelling on their part. it should have been somnus.fm |
