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| 02:57.26 | mgeary | hey |
| 02:57.31 | mgeary | anyone awake? |
| 03:03.05 | orsonj | I guess I am |
| 03:04.35 | mgeary | heya |
| 03:04.54 | mgeary | got any ideas for ssh-ing into a machine with no available processes? |
| 03:05.30 | orsonj | ewwww, no fun |
| 03:05.45 | mgeary | yeah |
| 03:06.06 | orsonj | remind me the exact error |
| 03:06.22 | mgeary | it's just closing the connection: |
| 03:06.28 | mgeary | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 03:07.18 | mgeary | it's on a Verio VPS |
| 03:07.32 | mgeary | they've got some sort of ridiculous process limit that i believe i'm hitting |
| 03:07.39 | mgeary | like 70 processes |
| 03:07.56 | orsonj | what kind of stuff do you have running right now? |
| 03:08.08 | mgeary | well, hard to say for sure, since i can't get in.... |
| 03:08.17 | mgeary | but basically just email, apache & mysql |
| 03:08.35 | mgeary | but that 70 includes all system-necessary processes, which is cheap, methinks |
| 03:09.09 | orsonj | do they have some kind of force reboot thingy? |
| 03:09.31 | mgeary | http://treeline.securesites.net/imanager/ |
| 03:09.32 | mgeary | :/ |
| 03:10.09 | orsonj | wow, the manager runs in your own process space?!? |
| 03:10.16 | mgeary | rude, eh? |
| 03:10.23 | mgeary | i've had it up to here with Verio |
| 03:10.36 | mgeary | but i'm hostage-- over 180 domains pointing to that IP |
| 03:10.44 | mgeary | no way i want to migrate those |
| 03:13.03 | mgeary | i was hoping brasto'd be around, since he's a verio dude |
| 03:13.23 | wps | crud |
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| 03:13.43 | wps | there doesn't appear to be any way to import archives into Google Groups |
| 03:14.27 | wps | and even if I wrote a script that emailed the entire database over, the dates would all be wrong |
| 03:14.32 | wps | :( |
| 03:16.34 | orsonj | so is this tied in any way to treelinegroup.com because it still seems responsive. |
| 03:17.49 | mindjuju | mgeary, do you need brasto email addy? |
| 03:18.04 | mgeary | sure, if you've got it |
| 03:18.11 | mgeary | orsonj: nope |
| 03:18.35 | mgeary | fwiw, the Verio server still serves up static html just fine. it's just php/mysql that is dying |
| 03:18.38 | mindjuju | PM sent to mgeary |
| 03:18.44 | mgeary | danke |
| 03:19.19 | mindjuju | Yur Welkommen ( i think its seomthing like that, isn't it?) |
| 03:20.46 | mgeary | uh |
| 03:20.50 | mgeary | "bitte" ;) |
| 03:21.12 | mgeary | Wilkommen = welcome, as in, "welcome to germany" |
| 03:21.27 | mindjuju | oh, that's what i get for guessing |
| 03:21.54 | mindjuju | Wilkommen - is the spelling of the i'd seen before, but i guessed wrong on its meaning |
| 03:22.49 | orsonj | well, it's possible that you could slip in if a process slot opened, but you'd want to write a script to keep trying for you rather than trying by hand. |
| 03:23.08 | mgeary | indeed |
| 03:23.15 | mgeary | any tips on such a script? |
| 03:23.29 | orsonj | but, yeah, getting ahold of someone from verio might work sooner. |
| 03:23.35 | mgeary | hahahahaha |
| 03:24.53 | orsonj | generaly that technique works better for fork bombs |
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| 03:34.19 | orsonj | interesting, there are a number of dentists on your server. |
| 03:34.43 | mindjuju | i wonder if one of them is steve martin? |
| 03:35.43 | mgeary | haha |
| 03:35.53 | mgeary | yeah, we've got a dental website system |
| 03:36.12 | mindjuju | i should put that movie on for old time sake |
| 03:38.33 | mgeary | only so-so, imho |
| 03:38.40 | orsonj | so even more fun, all 50 or so of the sites (you host?) are down. |
| 03:38.44 | mgeary | yeah |
| 03:38.49 | mgeary | about 180, actually |
| 03:38.51 | mgeary | !!!! |
| 03:39.18 | mgeary | my favorite steve martin movie is, whassit called.... L.A. Story |
| 03:39.22 | mgeary | followed by The Jerk |
| 03:39.36 | mindjuju | all i need is this chair... that's all i need |
| 03:39.37 | mgeary | there we go |
| 03:39.39 | orsonj | well, I'm just going off of myipneighbors.com |
| 03:39.41 | mgeary | server's been rebooted |
| 03:39.43 | mgeary | yeah |
| 03:39.53 | mindjuju | and this hat... that's all i need |
| 03:40.04 | mgeary | I HAVE A SPECIAL PURPOSE!! |
| 03:40.27 | mindjuju | i wonder why they don't make movies like that anymore |
| 03:40.54 | orsonj | hmmm, I'm not sure I like all the smiling people back after all. |
| 03:41.04 | mgeary | hahaaah |
| 03:41.22 | orsonj | toothprints??? |
| 03:41.30 | mgeary | indeed |
| 03:44.21 | mgeary | nite |
| 03:44.23 | beandog | nite |
| 03:45.35 | mgeary | any freebsd users still around? |
| 03:46.16 | orsonj | I browse the web. Does that count? |
| 03:47.15 | mgeary | heh |
| 03:47.23 | mgeary | looking for pkg_* support. not familiar with it |
| 03:49.01 | orsonj | well, I guess that's beyond my experience of seeing a little "powered by *bsd" logo at the bottom of the page. |
| 03:49.07 | mgeary | might be |
| 03:51.44 | orsonj | well, if anyone there knows they might msg you. |
| 03:51.59 | mgeary | thanks. i'll dip over to #freebsd and snoop around |
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| 12:29.57 | justingiboney | Good Morning UPHPU |
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| 14:21.48 | herlo | http://digg.com/tech_news/Comcast_Is_Starting_The_Tiered_Internet_Whether_We_Like_It_or_Not - Digg it. |
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| 15:01.11 | wps | you'll have to manually sign up for the new lists |
| 15:01.11 | wps | sorry |
| 15:01.21 | wps | I didn't want to have to wait the 2-3 days for the batch import to be approved |
| 15:02.17 | mgeary | link? |
| 15:03.18 | wps | http://groups.google.com/group/uphpu |
| 15:03.21 | wps | http://groups.google.com/group/uphpu-announce |
| 15:03.25 | wps | http://groups.google.com/group/uphpu-jobs |
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| 15:05.20 | SunSparc | It looks like I got unsubscribed from the old list. |
| 15:05.35 | wps | correct… everyone did |
| 15:06.56 | SunSparc | Ah |
| 15:07.04 | SunSparc | Ok, I just joined the Google Group |
| 15:07.10 | wps | sorry for the confusion and hassle |
| 15:07.14 | wps | I thought it was going to go smooth |
| 15:07.40 | wps | but when I tried to batch import 200 people it said that it would have to be approved, so I backed out… since I had already switched the DNS |
| 15:08.10 | SunSparc | Makes sense. |
| 15:11.28 | mgeary | just curious, what DNS needed to be switched? |
| 15:12.31 | wps | I moved all MX over to google |
| 15:12.45 | wps | using Google Apps for "admin@uphpu.org", etc |
| 15:13.08 | mgeary | ah |
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| 15:34.03 | SunSparc | The new list is up to 5 members. |
| 15:35.09 | beandog | new list? |
| 15:35.46 | wps | yes, we switched from Mailman to GG this morning |
| 15:36.14 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Be sure to sign up for the new mailing lists. Meeting thursday, 23 Aug: Sheri Bigelow on SEO |
| 15:36.48 | SunSparc | Good call, I was just about to suggest a change of topic |
| 15:37.45 | beandog | Hmm |
| 15:37.49 | beandog | I wonder if its gonna still work with gmane |
| 15:38.26 | wps | I wouldn't see why not. Doesn't GMane just subscribe to the list like a user would? |
| 15:40.07 | beandog | hmm yah |
| 15:40.15 | beandog | but it also asks what mail list provider you're using on setup. |
| 15:40.35 | beandog | you might have to make it re-subscribe |
| 15:40.37 | beandog | I dunnos. |
| 15:40.37 | SunSparc | Group info - Members: 5, Activity: Low activity |
| 15:40.40 | beandog | who knows. |
| 15:41.01 | beandog | we dont have to sign into our acct to subscribe do we |
| 15:41.35 | beandog | ah suck. |
| 15:41.37 | beandog | now thats crappy. |
| 15:41.44 | wps | no |
| 15:41.56 | wps | just send an email to uphpu-subscribe@googlegroups.com |
| 15:42.31 | beandog | You cannot post messages because only members can post, and you are not currently a member. |
| 15:42.45 | beandog | am I on the wrong page? |
| 15:43.30 | wps | did you subscribe before you tried posting? |
| 15:43.41 | beandog | Im looking at the webpage |
| 15:44.07 | beandog | which doesnt mention anything about signing up that way |
| 15:44.16 | beandog | meh. |
| 15:44.20 | orsonj | how about: |
| 15:44.22 | orsonj | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.39 | beandog | ooh, they do rss feeds? Now that is nice. |
| 15:45.43 | beandog | wps: not trying to be cranky about it, I just hate the idea of google knowing freaking everything. |
| 15:45.54 | wps | they don't give it everything |
| 15:45.57 | beandog | go with what works |
| 15:45.58 | wps | you don't have to create an account |
| 15:46.03 | beandog | Im just overly paranoid. |
| 15:46.04 | beandog | :) |
| 15:46.14 | wps | all you have to do to subscribe is send an email to uphpu-subscribe@googlegroups.com |
| 15:46.27 | beandog | yah, I cant even access my email right now. -_- |
| 15:46.52 | wps | then not being subscribed isn't going to be much of an issue, no? :) |
| 15:47.06 | orsonj | just get a gmail account, google is all about accessing your email ;) |
| 15:47.28 | beandog | wps: Im more worried about gmane, myself |
| 15:47.32 | beandog | since thats how I read the list |
| 15:47.35 | beandog | and post |
| 15:48.48 | wps | sorry for the trouble |
| 15:50.50 | SunSparc | Troublemaker |
| 15:51.01 | SunSparc | ~lart wps |
| 15:51.01 | jbot | whacks wps upside the head |
| 15:51.05 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:51.56 | SunSparc | Thanks for all your hard work wps!! |
| 15:52.10 | wps | you're welcome |
| 15:52.17 | wps | thanks for being patient |
| 15:52.51 | SunSparc | jbot: Patience is a Godly attribute |
| 15:52.52 | jbot | okay, SunSparc |
| 15:53.04 | SunSparc | Patience++ |
| 15:53.12 | SunSparc | ~karma Patience |
| 15:53.12 | jbot | patience has neutral karma |
| 15:53.34 | SunSparc | wps++ |
| 15:53.39 | SunSparc | ~karma wps |
| 15:53.39 | jbot | wps has karma of 11 |
| 15:53.43 | SunSparc | Wow! |
| 15:54.23 | mgeary | if you want to add to someone's karma, you need to add a tilde before their name |
| 15:54.26 | mgeary | ~SunSparc++ |
| 15:54.30 | mgeary | ~karma SunSparc |
| 15:54.30 | jbot | sunsparc has karma of 1 |
| 15:54.42 | SunSparc | Thanks for the tip |
| 15:54.50 | SunSparc | ~mgeary++ |
| 15:54.54 | SunSparc | ~wps++ |
| 15:54.59 | SunSparc | ~Patience++ |
| 15:58.02 | mgeary | ~karma Patience |
| 15:58.02 | jbot | patience has karma of 1 |
| 15:58.42 | SunSparc | ~Patience |
| 15:58.43 | jbot | i guess patience is a Godly attribute |
| 15:59.03 | SunSparc | jbot, I think you are correct. |
| 15:59.03 | jbot | You think you are correct.? |
| 15:59.18 | SunSparc | Yes |
| 16:00.19 | mgeary | jbot: take a bath, you stink |
| 16:00.28 | mgeary | hrm |
| 16:00.31 | mgeary | jbot, take a bath |
| 16:00.32 | jbot | ACTION Scrubs himself underhis ears and in his bellybotton like his mommy told him to do, then falls down into to mud and gets yelled at |
| 16:00.35 | mgeary | there we go |
| 16:01.07 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:01.12 | mgeary | jbot, eat a cheeseburger |
| 16:01.13 | jbot | ACTION eats a cheeseburger and falls over dead |
| 16:01.30 | SunSparc | He must have been supersized. |
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| 16:14.26 | justingiboney | Where do I sign up for the new mailing list? |
| 16:15.55 | SunSparc | uphpu-subscribe@googlegroups.com |
| 16:16.06 | SunSparc | http://groups.google.com/group/uphpu |
| 16:16.17 | SunSparc | http://groups.google.com/group/uphpu-announce |
| 16:16.18 | SunSparc | http://groups.google.com/group/uphpu-jobs |
| 16:16.42 | orsonj | mgeary: did you get your bsd pkg_* question resolved? |
| 16:17.07 | mgeary | nope |
| 16:17.23 | mgeary | but i did find out that we can upgrade our VPS, so that's probably my first step |
| 16:17.31 | mgeary | that may well come with an updated MySQL |
| 16:17.33 | mgeary | which could solve my probs |
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| 16:51.45 | beandog | mgeary: who you hosting with |
| 16:55.13 | influx^^ | who you roll with?! |
| 16:56.17 | mgeary | the server in question is a Verio virtual server |
| 16:56.42 | SunSparc | mgeary: I use those. What was your issue? |
| 16:57.17 | mgeary | i have way too many mysql processes. only server i've ever seen that appears to create new mysql (unix) processes as load increases |
| 16:57.30 | mgeary | and they don't seem to clean out when load goes down |
| 16:57.37 | beandog | yah |
| 16:57.39 | mgeary | i can't find any mysql config that influences that |
| 16:57.41 | beandog | I had that on my box, I cleaned it up yesterday |
| 16:57.45 | beandog | mgeary: /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 16:58.04 | beandog | look in the mysql tarball for my-small.cnf and my-medium.cnf and tweak as desired |
| 16:58.33 | SunSparc | Oh, I remember you talking about this problem. |
| 17:09.10 | wps | not good, but better news about the Google Video store |
| 17:09.39 | wps | instead of just giving Google Checkout credits as reimbursement, they will be double-refunding user's purchases |
| 17:15.13 | macnewbold | what was going on with google video purchases? I hadn't heard a thing about it |
| 17:15.27 | wps | Google closed it's video store |
| 17:15.30 | macnewbold | double refunding with cash or with credit? |
| 17:16.03 | wps | it was just going to be Google Checkout credit, but that's rediculous and the public outcry showed that |
| 17:16.14 | wps | the videos were DRM'd, so after the store closes they won't play anymore |
| 17:16.35 | wps | Google was just going to give the credit, but has now come around and will be giving double cash refund |
| 17:16.46 | beandog | macnewbold: thats the real question |
| 17:17.09 | wps | good PR decision |
| 17:17.28 | wps | I would be fine with just a cash refund, but double is good for PR |
| 17:17.56 | beandog | yah |
| 17:18.03 | beandog | too bad they didnt offer that 1st time around. |
| 17:18.10 | beandog | but at least they are coming around |
| 17:18.11 | beandog | good for them |
| 17:18.16 | wps | indeed |
| 17:18.28 | beandog | its always nice (and rare) when a company admits a mistake, much less makes it right |
| 17:19.37 | SunSparc | They probably did it that way to get more publicity. There is no such thing as |
| 17:19.40 | SunSparc | "bad press" |
| 17:21.07 | mgeary | anyone know of any open http proxies? |
| 17:21.28 | mgeary | my nameserver isn't resolving a certain domain, but the domain is up for the client... |
| 17:21.52 | wps | http://www.opendns.com/ |
| 17:22.19 | macnewbold | mgeary: there are some anonymizer things that do stuff like that - I think tor or onion something might be one |
| 17:25.41 | mgeary | my name server isn't giving me an ip for this domain: richlifeclub.com |
| 17:27.04 | mgeary | i've made a manual entry in my /etc/hosts file |
| 17:27.13 | mgeary | do i need to reload anything for that to take effect |
| 17:27.14 | mgeary | ? |
| 17:27.28 | wps | you're on a Mac, right? |
| 17:27.31 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:27.49 | wps | you don't _have_ to do anything yes, but yes, if you're on a Mac, I would recommend running… |
| 17:28.06 | wps | lookup -flushcache |
| 17:28.12 | wps | …after editing your hosts file |
| 17:28.17 | wps | oops |
| 17:28.19 | wps | that's… |
| 17:28.22 | wps | lookupd -flushcache |
| 17:29.43 | mgeary | hrm |
| 17:29.44 | mgeary | doesn't work |
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| 17:44.35 | unum | can't I just create member variables in javascript by assigning them, like: |
| 17:44.39 | unum | var mine |
| 17:44.46 | unum | mine.name='this' |
| 17:45.19 | mgeary | to be safe, i'd do: |
| 17:45.27 | mgeary | var mine = new Object; |
| 17:45.33 | mgeary | mine.name = 'whatever'; |
| 17:46.28 | unum | thanks that's what I was missing |
| 17:46.50 | unum | actually I was going to write javascript site that was similiar to php.net |
| 17:50.45 | thebigdog | that xmission has a lot of racks in their datacenter |
| 17:51.02 | thebigdog | and i just added a new cab down there too |
| 17:51.08 | thebigdog | hurray for ray!!!! |
| 17:51.39 | wps | I would back you a cake umum |
| 17:51.43 | thebigdog | javascriptkit.com |
| 17:51.44 | wps | s/back/bake/ |
| 17:56.42 | unum | ya that sites's pretty good. I just found it recently. I use the mozilla site a lot too |
| 17:56.49 | unum | and their dom reference |
| 18:00.42 | thebigdog | wps so where we at on the new list? what do i need to do? |
| 18:01.09 | wps | just sign up for the new ones |
| 18:01.09 | wps | http://uphpu.org/2007/08/21/new-mailing-lists/ |
| 18:01.24 | thebigdog | kk |
| 18:01.39 | wps | you can just send emails to <list>-subscribe@ for each |
| 18:01.47 | wps | …or use the web forms here: http://uphpu.org/mailing-lists/ |
| 18:01.56 | wps | …or log into the google interface and click "join" |
| 18:02.01 | wps | many, many options |
| 18:04.33 | thebigdog | i think i got it...now i need to see if i can send mail...yesterday it did not allow me |
| 18:04.55 | wps | cool |
| 18:04.58 | wps | thanks for your patience |
| 18:06.23 | thebigdog | nope not working for me |
| 18:06.48 | wps | what isn't workign? |
| 18:07.05 | thebigdog | i get a permission denied when posting to the list |
| 18:07.14 | thebigdog | tells me i need to join |
| 18:07.25 | wps | what email are you subscribed with? |
| 18:07.40 | thebigdog | my old one |
| 18:32.17 | unum | hmm when I push an my object on to the array it seems to get turned into a string and I lose the members |
| 18:32.40 | unum | I guess I should just use a two dimensional array |
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| 19:37.14 | mgeary | @#$@%@@# Verio VPS' |
| 19:37.19 | thebigdog | i think im done with the mailing list |
| 19:37.37 | mindjuju | mgeary, where you able to get ahold of brasto? |
| 19:37.41 | mgeary | no |
| 19:37.45 | mgeary | but get this-- |
| 19:37.59 | mgeary | apparently i have to change IPs if i upgrade the version of VPS |
| 19:38.11 | wps | have you tried it from a different email address to try and isolate the problem, thebigdog? |
| 19:38.22 | thebigdog | yeah i tried both |
| 19:38.30 | thebigdog | but i need it on my main list one |
| 19:38.36 | mindjuju | mgeary, that's the suckiest thing i've heard all week |
| 19:38.37 | mgeary | and the mysql thing--turns out that on the VPS system, mysql is non-threaded, but uses processes instead |
| 19:38.58 | mgeary | though that doesn't explain why they don't clean up after themselves |
| 19:39.09 | thebigdog | mgeary verio sucks imho |
| 19:39.20 | mindjuju | so your going to have to change the IP of 180 domains to the new one? |
| 19:39.34 | mgeary | yes |
| 19:40.03 | mindjuju | ~lart verio |
| 19:40.03 | jbot | beats verio to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 19:41.15 | mindjuju | i just jumped 15 websites to a new IP range, boy was that a hassle . each had A records, mx records, everything |
| 19:41.33 | mindjuju | can't imagine 180 |
| 19:42.06 | thebigdog | i just did 7 servers and it was a pain |
| 19:46.24 | mindjuju | ~wiki damageplan |
| 19:47.14 | thebigdog | if your a pantera fan you will like damageplan |
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| 20:21.17 | mgeary | ~SunSparc++ |
| 20:21.23 | mgeary | thanks for your verio insights |
| 20:22.06 | SunSparc | mgeary: You are very welcome. |
| 20:22.12 | SunSparc | I hope it helps. |
| 20:22.20 | mgeary | i'll let you know tonight/tomorrow |
| 20:22.23 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:28.27 | thebigdog | ~lart googlegroups |
| 20:28.27 | jbot | turns googlegroups into a lifesized tux doll |
| 20:33.15 | mgeary | jbot, i thought we'd killed you |
| 20:33.16 | jbot | You thought we'd killed you? |
| 20:33.22 | mgeary | no, *you* |
| 20:33.36 | mgeary | jbot, eat a radioactive sea turtle |
| 20:33.36 | jbot | ACTION eats a radioactive sea turtle and falls over dead |
| 20:33.43 | mgeary | now STAY! |
| 20:34.32 | mindjuju | curious |
| 20:34.38 | mindjuju | jbot, eat a twinkie |
| 20:34.38 | jbot | ACTION eats a twinkie and falls over dead |
| 20:34.47 | mindjuju | jbot, eat a sandwich |
| 20:34.48 | jbot | ACTION eats a sandwich and falls over dead |
| 20:34.49 | mgeary | oh sure, just PULL back the curtain |
| 20:35.09 | mindjuju | oh, was wondering if he always died, or if it was something that detected he was suppose to die |
| 20:35.12 | mgeary | jbot, shine my boots |
| 20:35.29 | mgeary | jbot, fetch my pipe |
| 20:35.35 | mgeary | jbot, kiss mindjuju |
| 20:35.36 | jbot | ACTION forces mindjuju to give ChanServ a big kiss on the lips |
| 20:35.44 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 20:35.50 | mindjuju | ~monkeypoo mgeary |
| 20:36.01 | mindjuju | ~poo mgeary |
| 20:36.01 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at mgeary |
| 20:36.04 | mgeary | whew |
| 20:36.06 | mgeary | just made it |
| 20:36.11 | mindjuju | ~monkey mgeary |
| 20:36.11 | jbot | ACTION flings poo at mgeary |
| 20:36.38 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 20:48.10 | fungus | mgeary: If your original reason to upgrade your Verio VPS was to replace mysql, why don't you just skip upgrading the whole system, and replace mysql? Don't you have root? |
| 20:48.35 | mgeary | i do, but i'm under the impression that won't work |
| 20:48.49 | mgeary | the key would be to replace mysql with a threaded version |
| 20:48.59 | mgeary | and verio has business($) reasons to not allow that |
| 20:49.14 | mgeary | since i'm constrained by the # of simultaneous procs |
| 20:52.21 | mgeary | whew. never underestimate the grief that can arise from cloning your arrays by reference instead of by value |
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| 21:04.04 | unum | I like to deep copy |
| 21:04.08 | unum | that sounded really dirty |
| 21:06.16 | fungus | deep can always be interpreted as a dirty word. |
| 21:12.41 | orsonj | Ladies... |
| 21:20.01 | thebigdog | oh yeah psych furs rock |
| 21:20.15 | mgeary | indeed |
| 21:40.17 | SunSparc | The UPHPU Google Group membership is up to 13. |
| 21:50.41 | fungus | herlo: you can just subscribe any address you want and watch the list the same way you always do. |
| 21:50.58 | fungus | You don't have to use your Google account. |
| 22:01.53 | herlo | fungus: I know |
| 22:02.14 | herlo | fungus: I just am not a big fan of Google Groups. I don't see what the big headache is of managing mailman |
| 22:03.53 | fungus | I agree with many of Wade's points, but I think the risk of losing lots of people during the switch could be too detrimental. |
| 22:04.55 | beandog | mgeary: what do you mean (re cloning) |
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| 22:06.47 | timinator | ahhhh.... thought it was quiet today |
| 22:13.04 | SunSparc | It has not been quiet in here. :) |
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| 22:50.39 | herlo | fungus: I think you are right, plus wade seems to think its better and that managing mailman is hard or something. I don't see how hard it is. I manage a few of my own |
| 22:50.45 | herlo | but hey, its his list |
| 22:51.44 | fungus | I agree that managing mailman is less easy than google groups, and google groups offers more features, but the risk involved isn't worth it. |
| 22:51.47 | fungus | IMHO |
| 22:52.44 | fungus | If we could mass subscribe everyone, then the risk would be minimal. |
| 22:53.20 | _psychic_ | risk? |
| 22:54.01 | fungus | risk of people not re-subscribing to the new list, hence lost members. |
| 22:58.24 | mgeary | #$%#^$!@ |
| 22:58.47 | beandog | mgeary: whats wrong |
| 23:00.06 | _psychic_ | caps lock on the numbers row, looks like |
| 23:01.02 | mgeary | i'm getting really fed up with these companies that buss inner-city ex-felons in here and have them go door-to-door with sob stories and high-pressure arguments to pressure well-meaning housewives into spending $150 for a $%#$% magazine subscription |
| 23:02.08 | fungus | Is there really an "inner-city" in Salt Lake? |
| 23:02.19 | beandog | not really. |
| 23:02.23 | mgeary | chicago |
| 23:03.14 | fungus | mgeary: I agree, those damn magazine salespeople are really annoying. Good thing I am not "well-meaning" |
| 23:03.48 | beandog | Thats why I hide in the oven anytime the doorbell rings. |
| 23:04.18 | fungus | um, aren't there better places than the oven?? |
| 23:04.43 | beandog | isnt the oven the last place you would look for someone? |
| 23:09.11 | fungus | um... yeah. :/ |
| 23:19.07 | timinator | the last mag salesman that came by my place, I turned down. The following weekend, my car was egged. |
| 23:19.11 | timinator | :( |
| 23:19.32 | timinator | coincidence? I think not! |
| 23:20.06 | timinator | anyway.... I'm out... later guys |
| 23:26.20 | mgeary | dang, that bites what timinator just wrote |
| 23:26.30 | mgeary | i called my bank and put a stop payment on the check |
| 23:26.43 | mgeary | we'll see what happens, i guess |
| 23:27.45 | mgeary | i wouldn't be quite so ticked-off if someone *else* from the same company hadn't come by two weeks ago |
| 23:33.40 | beandog | wtg mgeary |
| 23:33.41 | beandog | :) |
| 23:33.57 | mgeary | here's what really burns me-- |
| 23:34.48 | mgeary | they (it was two women) harassed my wife up and down to give them food!! she made them a sandwich, and they reply, "don't you have any meat?" She gave them some crackers, they reply, "don't you have any cheese for these crackers" |
| 23:35.10 | beandog | buh |
| 23:35.13 | mgeary | i am happy to be charitable, but i see this as something a bit different |
| 23:35.31 | beandog | that sucks. |
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