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| 01:13.01 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 01:13.02 | jbot | takes a big bite out of ChanServ's jugular vein |
| 01:13.20 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow.... |
| 01:13.23 | PoeticIntensity | jbot knows Weird Al! |
| 01:13.32 | mindjuju | he does? |
| 01:13.34 | PoeticIntensity | yes... |
| 01:13.47 | mindjuju | is it because of th e bite? |
| 01:14.00 | PoeticIntensity | that last reference.... "jbot takes a big bite out of ChanServ's jugular vein" is a reference from Weird Al's "Albuquerquerque" |
| 01:14.02 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 01:14.19 | PoeticIntensity | er..."Albuquerque" |
| 01:14.35 | PoeticIntensity | from "Running With Scissors" album. |
| 01:14.39 | PoeticIntensity | 12 minute song. |
| 01:14.48 | mindjuju | not just some passing vampiric remark? |
| 01:14.59 | PoeticIntensity | absolutely hilarious, if you're into the whole "ridiculous" humor. |
| 01:15.05 | PoeticIntensity | eh.... maybe. |
| 01:15.06 | PoeticIntensity | but.... |
| 01:15.11 | PoeticIntensity | that's like... verbatim. |
| 01:15.23 | PoeticIntensity | so... maybe, but probably not. |
| 01:15.24 | mindjuju | i like Weird Al, but don't think i've heard that one |
| 01:15.35 | mindjuju | i know some of the old stuff, and some of the newer old stuff |
| 01:15.36 | PoeticIntensity | one of his best. |
| 01:15.49 | PoeticIntensity | this came out about 6-7 years ago. |
| 01:17.54 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O98nXgvm0M |
| 01:18.09 | mindjuju | oh, i guess it isn't the full song |
| 01:18.30 | PoeticIntensity | nope... |
| 01:18.33 | PoeticIntensity | it's about half-way through. |
| 01:18.52 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPXToQ6R-U |
| 01:20.01 | mindjuju | nope, never heard this song before |
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| 01:23.22 | PoeticIntensity | so... you like? |
| 01:23.50 | mindjuju | i'm at 4:20 where he battles some dude stealing a snorkel |
| 01:23.57 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 01:26.44 | mindjuju | 7:20 he marries the girl he shares minty floss with |
| 01:26.51 | PoeticIntensity | yup! |
| 01:28.47 | herlo | of course, that's only this week. Next week's will be thrice as bad :( |
| 01:29.10 | mindjuju | 9:10 - bite of jugular vein |
| 01:29.14 | PoeticIntensity | buyah |
| 01:30.16 | mindjuju | by the way, i like Sauerkraut on Rueben sandwiches |
| 01:31.28 | herlo | me too |
| 01:32.04 | mindjuju | here is some of the old Weird Al stuff I remember --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4L1_nGqths |
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| 01:33.36 | mindjuju | who sings that song, Get your tongue out of my mouth cause i'm kissing you goodbye? |
| 01:33.53 | PoeticIntensity | not quite sure about that one |
| 01:50.51 | PoeticIntensity | if you're into another Weird Al marathon, give this a try. |
| 01:51.00 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT060JGp9sQ |
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| 02:20.04 | Utah_Dave | I saw something really cool today |
| 02:20.41 | Utah_Dave | In my hotel parking lot I saw an SUV covered in high tech cameras for microsoft's Live street map pictures |
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| 02:35.55 | mindjuju | where you at utah_dave? |
| 02:36.04 | mindjuju | we've got to find out when they hit SLC |
| 02:36.09 | Utah_Dave | LA |
| 02:36.44 | Utah_Dave | It was cool. They had GPS and all kinds of stuff on it |
| 02:36.59 | mindjuju | i wonder how often the cars are going to go roaming? |
| 02:37.11 | mindjuju | roads change, roads added, etc |
| 02:37.20 | Utah_Dave | I don't know |
| 02:37.47 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 02:38.28 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: remember me when you're a Google underlord |
| 02:38.46 | mindjuju | yeah! Google underlord! |
| 02:38.58 | mindjuju | utah_dave are you coming to geek lunch on Friday? |
| 02:39.16 | Utah_Dave | no, I'm going to still be here in L.A. |
| 02:39.21 | Utah_Dave | :( |
| 02:39.31 | mindjuju | bummer! |
| 02:40.02 | Utah_Dave | I know. I like the geek lunches. And I like the Pie |
| 02:40.06 | mindjuju | i'm in the process of making that stuff more organzied so we'll have the dates and locations available months in advance |
| 02:40.31 | mindjuju | well, you do what you got to do. |
| 02:40.31 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 02:40.43 | mindjuju | and hey, you came with us to Applebees this last time |
| 02:40.46 | mindjuju | wasn't that a hoot? |
| 02:41.03 | Utah_Dave | yeah, that was fun |
| 02:41.54 | mindjuju | the only prob is that time passes so quickly |
| 02:42.43 | herlo | mindjuju: don't forget; meeting in #utos 18mins |
| 02:42.58 | herlo | Utah_Dave: what are you doing in LA? |
| 02:43.32 | Utah_Dave | I'm filling in for a System Admin so he can go on vacation |
| 02:43.39 | Utah_Dave | this week and next |
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| 04:23.16 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 04:27.33 | mindjuju | ~APB herlo |
| 04:27.34 | jbot | ACTION calls Tim to spray mace at herlo |
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| 04:32.21 | justingiboney | good evening everyone! |
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| 04:35.47 | justingiboney | i guess I scared him away |
| 05:15.14 | mindjuju | heya justingiboney , what you doing up this late? |
| 05:15.30 | justingiboney | working on my pages |
| 05:15.33 | justingiboney | and you? |
| 05:15.46 | mindjuju | making a sexy video viewer |
| 05:15.53 | mindjuju | well, i mean, it'll have tutorials |
| 05:15.59 | mindjuju | but i want it to look HAWT |
| 05:16.14 | mindjuju | so going for a little web 2.0 AJAX look/feel |
| 05:16.35 | mindjuju | i'm drawing it up right now in photoshop while watching ghost rider |
| 05:16.44 | justingiboney | that's awesome... i have to use other people's designs |
| 05:17.01 | justingiboney | lol |
| 05:17.16 | justingiboney | i wish i had money for a second monitor... |
| 05:17.26 | mindjuju | well, i'm ok on design, but I look at a lot of peoples design for inspiration |
| 05:17.27 | justingiboney | actually this monitor is 800 x 600 |
| 05:17.33 | justingiboney | I wish I had money to replacethis one |
| 05:17.34 | mindjuju | oh, i'm still at work. |
| 05:18.01 | mindjuju | what size monitor is it? |
| 05:18.04 | justingiboney | cool, is this project that you are doing for your job? |
| 05:18.04 | mindjuju | 17? |
| 05:18.09 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 05:18.21 | justingiboney | 15" |
| 05:18.22 | mindjuju | this is why i was hammering on the Flash Media Server all weekend |
| 05:18.30 | mindjuju | now, to build the front end part to it |
| 05:18.52 | justingiboney | and it will be done? |
| 05:19.27 | mindjuju | well, this part of it. we are currently streaming with windows media services, i'm shifting over to FMS, so when this is done, i'll have some smaller projects |
| 05:19.42 | mindjuju | like streaming just audio, not just audio/video |
| 05:20.19 | mindjuju | have you seen ghostrider? |
| 05:20.24 | mindjuju | its a good show |
| 05:20.46 | justingiboney | a little bit... i am probably a little too young for it |
| 05:21.01 | mindjuju | oh, how old are you? |
| 05:21.15 | justingiboney | 25 |
| 05:21.37 | mindjuju | heh, yeah, it's PG - 27, can't go in without your parents |
| 05:22.53 | justingiboney | sorry, for some reason, i was thinking night rider |
| 05:23.19 | justingiboney | or what everthat talking car show was |
| 05:23.36 | mindjuju | oh, knight rider, i think |
| 05:24.05 | justingiboney | ya... but I haven't seen ghost rider either... |
| 05:24.29 | justingiboney | i want to see it sometime though |
| 05:25.06 | mindjuju | its good, though some people didn't like it. |
| 05:26.55 | justingiboney | i wish I could watch movies at work |
| 05:27.33 | mindjuju | oh, don't get me wrong, i don't do it during work hours, only after work hours, 6p and beyond, it's my time |
| 05:28.36 | justingiboney | but your still getting paid? |
| 05:29.13 | mindjuju | i'm salary |
| 05:29.17 | mindjuju | but i get other perks |
| 05:29.55 | justingiboney | like watching movies after hours =) |
| 05:30.32 | mindjuju | yeah, like that, an office, i set my own hours, tons of management exp |
| 05:30.49 | mindjuju | programming training, etc |
| 05:31.18 | justingiboney | i hope to be there someday |
| 05:31.45 | mindjuju | just keep doing what your doing. Not giving up on code, studying like crazy |
| 05:32.42 | justingiboney | ya i am entering the ISYS program at BYU in September |
| 05:33.40 | mindjuju | how do you like BYU? I thought about going to school there |
| 05:35.17 | justingiboney | it is a school. it is also a well known school. and there aren't a bunch of hookers there. There were at the community college I was going to in california. But it is way more expensive |
| 05:35.54 | justingiboney | not the hookers (expensive) |
| 05:40.34 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 05:41.01 | justingiboney | well it could have been taken wrong. |
| 05:41.16 | justingiboney | Where did you go to school? or did you? |
| 05:41.58 | mindjuju | At the time it was called Southern Virginia College, now Southern Virginia University - Poli Sci major |
| 05:42.32 | justingiboney | and your computer skills are self-inflicted? |
| 05:43.18 | mindjuju | yeah, been working on computers since 11 |
| 05:43.25 | mindjuju | started with DOS 3 |
| 05:46.24 | justingiboney | well i started with windows 95 and mac os 2 |
| 05:47.27 | justingiboney | although i didn't really get into programming until high school, where i did a little html |
| 05:51.54 | mindjuju | whew! found it. Here is what I started on |
| 05:52.07 | mindjuju | best friend's dad would bring this home for us on weekends to use --> http://www.vintage-computer.com/images/ibmpcportable.jpg |
| 05:52.27 | mindjuju | wasn't quite this model, our screen was green and the drives were rotated 90 degrees |
| 05:52.43 | mindjuju | weighted like 20lbs |
| 05:53.19 | justingiboney | that's awesome |
| 05:53.43 | justingiboney | looks like an iMac's father |
| 05:54.47 | mindjuju | i got a lot of experience with DOS and hardware working on this and another 8088 comp |
| 05:55.05 | mindjuju | mostly because we were trying to play Zork and other text based games and the comps needed help to run them |
| 06:00.39 | justingiboney | Zork sounds familiar... but i can't think of where |
| 06:01.15 | mindjuju | text based game where you'd type a verb and it'd tell you what happened. had puzzles and stuff |
| 06:01.25 | mindjuju | so,you say wield sword. |
| 06:01.32 | mindjuju | then on the next command, kill dragon |
| 06:01.32 | justingiboney | ohh.. there was a game called beyond zork.. i believe... although I can't remember much about it |
| 06:01.47 | mindjuju | yup, beyond zork was part ot he series |
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| 16:53.34 | *** topic/#uphpu is Geek Lunch | Friday, August 10 - 1p - The Pie Pizzeria - 1320 East 200 South | 801.582.0195 (University of Utah location) | Utah PHP Users Group | uhphu.org |
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| 16:53.38 | thebigdog | i am the liaison with the publishers for uphpu |
| 16:53.46 | mgeary | ah |
| 16:53.55 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, just switch out the mysql for pgsql |
| 16:54.14 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, having the mail in the database rocks with psql |
| 16:54.30 | thebigdog | you can setup triggers and tons of other stuff and do some killer things |
| 16:54.56 | thebigdog | wps and i worked on a site where i did something similar |
| 16:55.22 | PoeticIntensity | wow.... like.. having the actual mail in the db? |
| 16:55.28 | PoeticIntensity | so far, I've just set up virtual-users in there. |
| 16:55.28 | thebigdog | we did jabber as part of a website...i used psql and integrated jabber into our website |
| 16:55.45 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, no mail in the database...just configuration stuff |
| 16:56.03 | thebigdog | but when things are created you can do other things |
| 16:56.10 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 16:56.12 | beandog | the actual mail goes in the database? |
| 16:56.17 | thebigdog | beandog, no |
| 16:56.21 | beandog | oh |
| 16:56.41 | thebigdog | im talking like if a user gets created you can do things in the database |
| 16:56.52 | beandog | like what |
| 16:57.01 | thebigdog | fire a trigger |
| 16:57.09 | thebigdog | update some additional tables |
| 16:57.16 | thebigdog | whatever |
| 16:57.40 | beandog | ok |
| 16:57.40 | thebigdog | lock accounts |
| 16:58.08 | mgeary | ping cole_joplin |
| 16:58.32 | cole_joplin | yes mike |
| 16:58.35 | thebigdog | timinator, didnt we set that up for you too? |
| 16:59.13 | thebigdog | i think i set up timinator with that setup |
| 16:59.23 | thebigdog | there is a frontend too that you can use for managing postfix in mysql |
| 17:01.39 | timinator | reading.... |
| 17:02.10 | timinator | oh ya... email admin via MySQL |
| 17:02.11 | orsonj | speaking of mail servers |
| 17:02.14 | timinator | LOVE IT |
| 17:02.24 | timinator | I've got it on both servers |
| 17:02.24 | thebigdog | timinator, what did we do for you |
| 17:02.31 | thebigdog | postfix + mysql + dovecot right? |
| 17:02.43 | timinator | yep |
| 17:02.48 | timinator | and I love it |
| 17:02.56 | beandog | whats the advantage to bringing a database into the mix? |
| 17:03.25 | thebigdog | virtual users and domains for one |
| 17:03.30 | timinator | I can have my PHP sites do admin stuff on the fly |
| 17:03.35 | timinator | right |
| 17:03.47 | beandog | like what |
| 17:03.53 | mgeary | virtual users in a DB is a *huuuuge* advantage |
| 17:03.54 | thebigdog | easier configuration changes |
| 17:03.55 | beandog | Im totally not seeing the point. |
| 17:04.14 | thebigdog | lol you dont have to edit config files and restart the postfix |
| 17:04.21 | thebigdog | that is my main advantage |
| 17:04.24 | timinator | I have one website that each of my users get an email address when the sign up |
| 17:04.29 | beandog | what kind of config changes are you having to even make? |
| 17:04.38 | thebigdog | adding users |
| 17:04.42 | thebigdog | mod users |
| 17:04.46 | beandog | oh okay |
| 17:04.53 | beandog | vacation responses, forwarding, etc? |
| 17:04.54 | thebigdog | locking accounts |
| 17:04.55 | beandog | stuff like that? |
| 17:05.00 | beandog | quotas |
| 17:05.17 | thebigdog | responses are another app...but yeah that stuff |
| 17:05.27 | beandog | hmm |
| 17:05.28 | beandog | weird. |
| 17:05.59 | thebigdog | beandog, if you just have one domain then it is probably not worth it |
| 17:06.04 | beandog | ok |
| 17:06.11 | thebigdog | and a small set of users |
| 17:06.22 | thebigdog | here at my day job i dont use a db |
| 17:06.26 | thebigdog | just db4 files |
| 17:06.40 | thebigdog | you could hook into sqlite too if you wanted |
| 17:06.46 | thebigdog | or openldap which is nice |
| 17:07.18 | thebigdog | for one setup i have all users in a database...so machine use pam + pgsql for authentication |
| 17:07.27 | thebigdog | postfix + pam + pgsql too |
| 17:07.42 | thebigdog | so 1 account 1 db |
| 17:07.47 | thebigdog | works like a charm |
| 17:08.06 | thebigdog | and openldap uses the db too |
| 17:08.18 | thebigdog | openldap for all the contacts for email |
| 17:08.33 | thebigdog | and application sso |
| 17:09.14 | timinator | thebigdog has killer skilz |
| 17:09.15 | beandog | heh |
| 17:09.34 | thebigdog | ldap is my favorit |
| 17:10.24 | _psychic_ | anything that centralizes user information is a good thing |
| 17:10.30 | _psychic_ | I'm tired of 10 different logs |
| 17:10.32 | _psychic_ | *logins |
| 17:10.37 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:10.41 | _psychic_ | and 10 different ways of storing and maintaining it |
| 17:11.08 | thebigdog | yeah and having ldap store in psql is a huge plus |
| 17:11.19 | _psychic_ | oh nice |
| 17:11.24 | _psychic_ | mptt? |
| 17:11.33 | _psychic_ | how does it maintain the tree structure? |
| 17:12.02 | thebigdog | not sure how it does it |
| 17:12.14 | thebigdog | have not looked at it that much |
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| 17:12.26 | _psychic_ | why do you like it in pgsql? |
| 17:12.39 | thebigdog | cause i rock with pgsql |
| 17:12.57 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 17:13.03 | thebigdog | my big thing is all the advanced features |
| 17:13.07 | thebigdog | that i get out of the box |
| 17:13.22 | thebigdog | triggers, stored procs, relations |
| 17:13.23 | _psychic_ | but LDAP in pg - why do that |
| 17:13.32 | thebigdog | cause i have things that cannot use ldap |
| 17:13.38 | _psychic_ | i c |
| 17:13.46 | thebigdog | so i can still hook into the db for the account stuff |
| 17:14.02 | _psychic_ | we use LDAP for svn, trac, wiki, intranet access |
| 17:14.13 | thebigdog | ldap is killer cool |
| 17:14.14 | _psychic_ | there aren't many things that won't do ldap |
| 17:14.34 | thebigdog | _psychic_, true everything is starting to use it |
| 17:16.14 | beandog | ldap + trac? |
| 17:16.18 | beandog | wow. |
| 17:16.23 | beandog | that is cool. |
| 17:16.49 | beandog | thebigdog: where do you work, anyway |
| 17:16.59 | thebigdog | i work at sabioso now |
| 17:17.22 | thebigdog | i use to work @ northrop grumman where i started doing a lot of this stuff |
| 17:18.10 | _psychic_ | beandog: it's all done using auth through apache's mod_ldap - its the same way we do SVN auth |
| 17:18.17 | beandog | Hmm |
| 17:18.35 | beandog | and ldap can use psql as well, cant it |
| 17:18.43 | thebigdog | it can |
| 17:18.54 | beandog | intresting. |
| 17:18.57 | thebigdog | most people dont do it though |
| 17:18.59 | _psychic_ | beandog: AuthBasicProvider "ldap" in apache2.conf |
| 17:19.04 | _psychic_ | 'snice |
| 17:19.15 | beandog | I thought abuot using it when setting up thin clients |
| 17:19.20 | beandog | I just went with regular user accounts instead. |
| 17:19.46 | beandog | pretty basic setup, didnt need anything fancy |
| 17:19.51 | beandog | I can see where it would be helpful though. |
| 17:20.26 | thebigdog | now whatz really cool is when you start adding radius and ldap together |
| 17:20.31 | thebigdog | that is some sick stuff |
| 17:20.41 | _psychic_ | :) |
| 17:21.16 | beandog | what's radius |
| 17:21.18 | thebigdog | i use to work at enterasys and we had that all setup |
| 17:22.15 | thebigdog | beandog, <_psychic_> beandog: it's all done using auth through apache's mod_ldap - its the same |
| 17:22.20 | thebigdog | damn |
| 17:22.22 | thebigdog | sorry |
| 17:22.54 | thebigdog | ~wiki RADIUS |
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| 17:42.58 | mgeary | dang |
| 17:43.17 | mgeary | if i can't find phpize on a system, am i not going to be able to compile a PECL extension? |
| 17:44.57 | _psychic_ | prolly |
| 17:45.07 | _psychic_ | what kind of system? |
| 17:45.28 | mgeary | Linux domain.com 2.6.17-1.2142_FC4smp #1 SMP Tue Jul 11 22:57:02 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux |
| 17:45.33 | mgeary | FC4 |
| 17:45.56 | _psychic_ | is that in the php-devel package? |
| 17:46.00 | mgeary | looks like i found a yum package |
| 17:46.09 | _psychic_ | yum is yucky |
| 17:46.13 | mgeary | agreed |
| 17:46.19 | _psychic_ | and less is more than more |
| 17:47.11 | mgeary | hrm. well, looks like i'm okay now. i'm installing the json PECL extension. yum only had 1.1.0, and our dev server uses 1.2.1, but it's a start, at least |
| 17:49.11 | beandog | I wants the colors |
| 17:49.12 | beandog | :C |
| 17:49.34 | beandog | mbp? |
| 17:49.38 | mgeary | MacBook Pro |
| 17:49.41 | beandog | ooh man |
| 17:49.43 | mgeary | you know you want one |
| 17:49.44 | beandog | Id drop real money for one of those. |
| 17:50.09 | mgeary | now you're talkin' |
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| 17:53.40 | mgeary | dang. looks like my json PECL extension is too old. anyone here know enough about yum to help me get a later version? I assume it'd be in some sort of "unstable" repo.... |
| 17:56.32 | burnin | mgeary, doesn't the rpm come from the standard or extra repos? |
| 17:57.03 | mgeary | i'm not sure i even know what you're asking. i deal with package managers as little as absolutely possible |
| 17:57.14 | mgeary | but on this server, i have to |
| 17:57.21 | burnin | k |
| 17:57.33 | burnin | first need to determine the package name... |
| 17:57.34 | mgeary | hrm |
| 17:57.39 | mgeary | well, that's php-json |
| 17:57.45 | burnin | k |
| 17:57.50 | burnin | yum update php-json |
| 17:57.50 | mgeary | i installed it, but it's too old |
| 17:58.06 | mgeary | well, that's just going to be the same version, no? |
| 17:58.06 | burnin | oh, you installed from an rpm you d/led? |
| 17:58.10 | mgeary | no |
| 17:58.13 | mgeary | i first did: |
| 17:58.16 | mgeary | yum install php-json |
| 17:58.28 | mgeary | but it's 1.1.0 and i want something later |
| 17:58.47 | mgeary | i'm seeing, however, that i may be able to do yum install php-devel to get phpize |
| 17:58.53 | mgeary | which would put me back on more familiar ground.... |
| 17:59.03 | mgeary | "Could not find update match for php-json" |
| 17:59.13 | burnin | ah, if a later version is in testing you could enable the testing repo and install a later version. |
| 17:59.20 | mgeary | yeah, how do i do that? |
| 17:59.32 | burnin | otherwise you'll need to install from source or from a prepackaged rpm |
| 18:00.34 | burnin | find the /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo enable entry and edit it to be enabled. |
| 18:00.45 | burnin | then I think a yum update php-lson will do it |
| 18:00.54 | burnin | as long as there is a later php-lson in the testing repo |
| 18:01.25 | mgeary | trying that now |
| 18:01.38 | mgeary | it's parsing that new repo... |
| 18:01.40 | mgeary | so that's good at least |
| 18:01.56 | mgeary | dang. still no match |
| 18:02.03 | mgeary | i'll do the php-devel thing and see if i can get phpize |
| 18:02.21 | burnin | which fedora? |
| 18:02.27 | mgeary | FC4 |
| 18:05.32 | burnin | hmm, its in extras, and fc4 is legacy now |
| 18:05.39 | burnin | not sure if extras is supported in legacy |
| 18:05.55 | burnin | probably have to remove the package and then locate a later rpm and install without using yum |
| 18:06.10 | mgeary | the sad irony is that the server was updated about 5 months ago |
| 18:06.21 | thebigdog | i hate rpms |
| 18:06.30 | mgeary | updated to FC4 :/ |
| 18:06.33 | burnin | updated? as in fresh OS install? |
| 18:06.36 | mgeary | yeah |
| 18:06.41 | burnin | yikes |
| 18:07.18 | mgeary | ~lart Aplus.net |
| 18:07.18 | jbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Aplus.net feel it |
| 18:07.24 | mgeary | more~ |
| 18:07.26 | mgeary | ~ |
| 18:07.28 | mgeary | ! |
| 18:07.30 | mgeary | ~lart Aplus.net |
| 18:07.30 | jbot | frags Aplus.net with his BFG9000 |
| 18:07.34 | mgeary | better |
| 18:08.09 | mgeary | hey |
| 18:08.12 | mgeary | i now have phpize |
| 18:08.13 | mgeary | whew |
| 18:08.40 | mgeary | $!!@#$%! |
| 18:09.18 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.38 | thebigdog | you can install that |
| 18:09.58 | mgeary | what is it? |
| 18:10.08 | thebigdog | a development app |
| 18:10.52 | thebigdog | i think it might be in sysconftool rpm |
| 18:11.14 | mgeary | "sysconftool.noarch" ? |
| 18:11.19 | thebigdog | perhaps |
| 18:11.26 | thebigdog | im not a big fc user |
| 18:11.49 | thebigdog | might be in its own rpm too |
| 18:12.13 | mgeary | what would "noarch" mean? |
| 18:12.20 | mgeary | there's also an "automake.noarch" rpm |
| 18:12.28 | mgeary | google indicates that might be a good candidate |
| 18:12.30 | thebigdog | means it is not i386 or i686 |
| 18:13.09 | mgeary | meaning that it's not compatible with those machines? |
| 18:13.42 | thebigdog | just means that u can use it on those ones |
| 18:18.50 | burnin | yum provides *aclocal* | more |
| 18:19.04 | burnin | that will tell you which package to install to get aclocal |
| 18:19.22 | mgeary | ah |
| 18:23.51 | mgeary | what is aclocal? it appears to be a directory, more than a binary |
| 18:26.38 | mgeary | ah |
| 18:26.40 | mgeary | also a binary |
| 18:26.58 | mgeary | hrm, it's in a "base" package. doesn't that suggest that it should already be there? |
| 18:31.53 | mgeary | burnin: what does that base mean? |
| 18:32.22 | burnin | yum info base |
| 18:32.26 | burnin | not sure |
| 18:32.40 | mgeary | sorry, that's not a package name, it's a package status |
| 18:32.51 | mgeary | rather than "installed" or "extras", it says "base" |
| 18:33.05 | mgeary | when i do: "yum install automake" |
| 18:33.08 | mgeary | i get this-- |
| 18:33.16 | burnin | oh, that is just which repo it is in |
| 18:33.18 | mgeary | The GPG keys listed for the "Fedora Core 4 - i386 - Base" repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package. |
| 18:33.18 | mgeary | Check that the correct key URLs are configured for this repository. |
| 18:33.20 | burnin | it is in the base repo |
| 18:33.45 | burnin | oh, that doesn't sound good |
| 18:34.10 | burnin | that means the package you recieved does not appear to be from the Fedora project. |
| 18:34.16 | burnin | the GPG key does not match |
| 18:34.40 | burnin | yum clean all |
| 18:34.44 | burnin | then try to install it again. |
| 18:35.13 | burnin | perhaps something got hosed in the download from the mirror. |
| 18:35.50 | mgeary | what does yum clean all do? |
| 18:36.08 | burnin | it will remove all the packages it has downloaded and clean up the repo data. |
| 18:36.24 | burnin | then when you try the install again it will reload the repo data and download the package again. |
| 18:36.24 | mgeary | won't that mess up things i've already installed via yum? |
| 18:36.35 | burnin | no, your install database is left intact |
| 18:36.48 | burnin | it just erases the repo data it downloaded from the mirror. |
| 18:36.57 | burnin | it will download it again the next time you do an install or update. |
| 18:37.03 | mgeary | ok |
| 18:37.55 | burnin | ugh, looks like all the name-services.com nameservers dropped off the planet. :( |
| 18:42.58 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 18:45.19 | mgeary | burnin: i did "yum clean all" and then did "yum install automake" |
| 18:45.30 | mgeary | it took a while to cache/download/whatever some stuff |
| 18:45.48 | mgeary | then asked me if it was "ok" to install 2 packages |
| 18:45.53 | mgeary | and then i get the same response as above |
| 18:46.26 | mgeary | does that suggest that the repository itself is messed up? |
| 18:46.41 | thebigdog | it could be |
| 18:46.46 | thebigdog | fc4 is pretty old |
| 18:47.07 | thebigdog | another reason i hate fc |
| 18:48.53 | beandog | not that that wasn't ever obvious |
| 18:49.52 | beandog | good luck, man |
| 18:50.38 | mgeary | fixed |
| 18:50.50 | thebigdog | reinstalling os is nice |
| 18:51.12 | mgeary | whew. looks like that's done it... <crosses fingers> |
| 18:51.19 | mgeary | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/58407-yum-install-mythtv-suite-problems.html |
| 18:51.36 | mgeary | that link says to change the gpgkey= value |
| 18:51.39 | mgeary | that did the trick |
| 18:52.41 | mgeary | whew |
| 18:52.44 | mgeary | what a pain |
| 18:55.24 | mgeary | good heavens |
| 18:55.24 | mgeary | now i'm really ticked off |
| 18:55.26 | mgeary | turns out the json version wasn't what was causing the problem |
| 18:55.34 | thebigdog | haha |
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| 19:12.38 | beandog | mgeary: what was it |
| 19:13.05 | mgeary | not sure yet, actually. |
| 19:13.12 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v _psychic_] by ChanServ |
| 19:13.35 | mgeary | basically there's a <select> with an onchange that uses ajax to populate another <select> |
| 19:13.45 | mgeary | json data is being passed to facilitate that |
| 19:14.00 | mgeary | works on dev, not on testing. ah well |
| 19:17.10 | beandog | burnin: Im in the same boat |
| 19:18.22 | burnin | beandog, dns? |
| 19:18.25 | beandog | yah |
| 19:18.30 | burnin | bummer |
| 19:18.41 | burnin | I'm going to deal with it tonight, time to get back to work... |
| 19:19.28 | PoeticIntensity | sweet.... |
| 19:19.37 | PoeticIntensity | dovecot + pgsql + postfix is workin' like a charm. |
| 19:19.44 | PoeticIntensity | woot! |
| 19:19.46 | beandog | heh |
| 19:19.47 | beandog | rock on. |
| 19:21.47 | thebigdog | nice PoeticIntensity |
| 19:23.04 | PoeticIntensity | yeah.... the advise to use dovecot was good advice indeed. |
| 19:23.11 | PoeticIntensity | pretty easy... |
| 19:23.21 | PoeticIntensity | lots of reading, but... *much* better than courier, for sure. |
| 19:23.51 | beandog | whys that |
| 19:24.19 | PoeticIntensity | documentation exists, and is good. |
| 19:24.24 | beandog | ah |
| 19:24.26 | beandog | thats always a bonus. |
| 19:24.27 | PoeticIntensity | whereas for courier, it's sparse and horribly written, at that. |
| 19:24.41 | PoeticIntensity | not only a bonus, but a dealbreaker for courier. |
| 19:24.48 | PoeticIntensity | I can write SQL straight into the config. |
| 19:24.56 | PoeticIntensity | tell it how to expect the password / etc... |
| 19:25.14 | PoeticIntensity | bottom line: I fought with courier for 3 hours. |
| 19:25.16 | PoeticIntensity | never got it to work. |
| 19:25.21 | macnewbold | yikes |
| 19:25.25 | PoeticIntensity | in the same time, I got dovecot to work without a problem. |
| 19:25.49 | PoeticIntensity | actually... an hour and a half for dovecot. |
| 19:25.56 | PoeticIntensity | macnewbold, why "yikes"? |
| 19:26.06 | thebigdog | i love dovecot for its mailbox layout |
| 19:26.28 | thebigdog | dataw0lf turned me onto dovecto |
| 19:27.29 | dataw0lf | dovecot++ |
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| 19:28.06 | PoeticIntensity | so, dataw0lf, are you a pgsql fanboy, like thebigdog ? |
| 19:30.21 | thebigdog | he uses and abuses pgsql and mysql |
| 19:30.35 | thebigdog | i think his love is still with pgsql :) |
| 19:31.23 | thebigdog | in the couple years i have used dovecot i dont think i have run into any issues |
| 19:32.15 | thebigdog | macnewbold, is old school he loves that sendmail crap |
| 19:32.27 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:32.32 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 19:32.33 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 19:32.48 | thebigdog | but i still love him...even if he likes courier + sendmail + mysql |
| 19:32.48 | macnewbold | not that I love it, I just use it because (a) it's already there when I install freebsd, and (b) it's what I'm familiar with |
| 19:32.56 | timinator | backatcha bigdog |
| 19:33.13 | thebigdog | ~kiss timinator |
| 19:33.14 | jbot | ACTION forces timinator to give jnbek a big kiss on the lips |
| 19:33.21 | timinator | aw man |
| 19:33.33 | thebigdog | ~kiss timinator macnewbold |
| 19:33.33 | jbot | ACTION forces timinator macnewbold to give dataw0lf a big kiss on the hand |
| 19:33.48 | timinator | ~lart thebigdog |
| 19:33.48 | jbot | takes out a cattle prod and gives thebigdog a good jolt |
| 19:33.54 | timinator | take that |
| 19:33.56 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart timinator |
| 19:33.56 | jbot | follow's timinator with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 19:34.00 | thebigdog | ~medic man down |
| 19:34.02 | timinator | now sit down and chill out |
| 19:34.25 | thebigdog | where is mindjuju when you need him |
| 19:34.26 | timinator | ~waleslap thebigdog |
| 19:34.34 | thebigdog | ~pimpslap timinator |
| 19:34.34 | jbot | thebigdog pimpslaps timinator. ouch! |
| 19:34.41 | timinator | LOL |
| 19:35.12 | thebigdog | everytime i see that it reminds me of "the rock" when he played that gay mob guy in some movie |
| 19:35.13 | timinator | ~whaleslap thebigdog |
| 19:35.14 | jbot | ACTION beats thebigdog upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 19:38.12 | beandog | sendmail isn't too bad either. |
| 19:39.14 | beandog | man I havent messed with a mail server in *years* |
| 19:42.35 | wps | I hate all of the gunk that builds up under your mouse |
| 19:45.20 | wps | I have an absolutely positioned div that is respecting the top value, but completely ignores left or right |
| 19:45.22 | wps | any ideas? |
| 19:49.42 | herlo | wps: do you still use a ball mouse? |
| 19:50.39 | mgeary | though the OE is a bit lighter than i like my mouse to be |
| 19:52.33 | mgeary | i don't like bluetooth mice. seems silly |
| 19:52.39 | mgeary | i mean, i'm AT the keyboard |
| 19:52.42 | mgeary | not across the room |
| 19:52.45 | mgeary | and i hate changing batteries |
| 20:02.15 | mgeary | dangit |
| 20:02.23 | mgeary | why isn't xdebug tracking my memory usage!? |
| 20:03.02 | wps | no, optica |
| 20:03.04 | wps | optical |
| 20:03.21 | wps | but the little pad that the mouse slides on still picks up dust and lint |
| 20:20.21 | fungus | Anyone have opinions about HTML5 vs XHTML? |
| 20:25.22 | mgeary | is it possible to pipe a .gz file to mysql? so i don't have to unzip it first? i normally do: |
| 20:26.04 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.07 | mgeary | or something like that, anyway |
| 20:26.21 | fungus | gunzip -c | mysql |
| 20:26.31 | fungus | gunzip -c file.sql.gz | mysql |
| 20:26.51 | mgeary | does that work? i didn't think you could pipe stuff to mysql. i thought you had to < |
| 20:26.51 | fungus | or zcat file.sql.gz | mysql |
| 20:27.03 | fungus | Nope, you can pipe stuff to it |
| 20:27.15 | mgeary | cool |
| 20:27.16 | mgeary | thanks |
| 20:27.40 | fungus | Using a pipe and inputting a file that way are the same thing as far as the receiving app is concerned. |
| 20:28.53 | mgeary | ah |
| 20:29.48 | thebigdog | fungus, i look forward to the concept of collections |
| 20:30.22 | fungus | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/?ca=dgr-lnxw01NewHTML |
| 20:30.31 | thebigdog | and canvas |
| 20:30.52 | fungus | That shows off some cool new elements in HTML5, but I don't like the idea of not requiring closing tags anymore, etc. |
| 20:31.33 | fungus | The code will look prettier but parsing it will be more painful |
| 20:32.04 | thebigdog | datagrids are nice too |
| 20:32.12 | thebigdog | fungus, yeah |
| 20:32.23 | fungus | I like tossing a nice xhtml formatted page at my standard xml parsing tools. |
| 20:33.29 | fungus | datagrid sounds amazing. |
| 20:34.18 | thebigdog | most of them are concepts that have been around for a while..not sure why they are taking long to get into the web front |
| 20:35.45 | fungus | Yeah, but straying from the XML strictness frightens me. More years of pain. |
| 20:37.50 | thebigdog | fungus, oh how i agree...im a huge xml fan |
| 20:45.09 | thebigdog | fungus, perhaps if yo uhave time to you could write up something for the site on html5 |
| 20:45.26 | fungus | hmm, not a bad idea. |
| 20:45.33 | fungus | I'll try |
| 20:45.48 | thebigdog | i would love ot hear some opinions on it |
| 21:13.32 | mgeary | fungus: btw, that pipe | mysql works great. thanks muchly |
| 21:14.04 | fungus | np. pipes are wonderful things. |
| 21:14.46 | thebigdog | timinator, ? |
| 21:16.31 | timinator | sup |
| 21:17.08 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 21:17.09 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:17.13 | thebigdog | for you bro |
| 21:17.19 | timinator | thx bro |
| 21:17.24 | mgeary | hrm |
| 21:17.25 | timinator | ~flip thebigdog |
| 21:17.26 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:17.31 | thebigdog | ty |
| 21:17.42 | thebigdog | i love pipes |
| 21:17.47 | mgeary | fungus: any way go get gunzip to feed statements to mysql line-by-line, rather than having to gunzip the entire file first? |
| 21:17.53 | timinator | only the best for mybigdog |
| 21:18.06 | mgeary | it's a biiiiiig file |
| 21:18.16 | mgeary | don't want to hit memory issues or such |
| 21:18.34 | fungus | I don't think it does unzip the entire file first. |
| 21:20.00 | mgeary | aah |
| 21:20.02 | mgeary | i see what it did |
| 21:20.09 | thebigdog | man gunzip |
| 21:20.11 | mgeary | i left of -c ;) |
| 21:20.14 | mgeary | *off |
| 21:20.21 | fungus | ahh, that would do it |
| 21:20.41 | mgeary | it's been a good day |
| 21:21.06 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, has had a good day too |
| 21:21.15 | thebigdog | he is using the force now |
| 21:21.18 | mgeary | yeah, but his really has |
| 21:21.55 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... It took a bit of reading, but - dovecot is definitely the way to go. |
| 21:22.09 | PoeticIntensity | Cryptic documentation gets old fast. |
| 21:22.22 | PoeticIntensity | (which makes me wonder why I use Postfix... :) |
| 21:22.26 | orsonj | this looks fun: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270153768880 |
| 21:22.44 | orsonj | (motor assisted recumbant trike) |
| 21:24.10 | PoeticIntensity | wow.... |
| 21:24.15 | PoeticIntensity | that looks.... pretty neat. |
| 21:26.21 | beandog | http://www.schedulesdirect.org/ |
| 21:26.28 | beandog | cheaper than I thought, thank goodness. |
| 21:28.00 | mindjuju | sorry, took Tiff and Corban to Buca de Beppo. gibba[w] 's nomination for Geek Lunch has had a major effect on my family and in law's family |
| 21:28.08 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 21:28.12 | mindjuju | we go there, prolly once a month, and they go once a month |
| 21:28.26 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 21:28.28 | PoeticIntensity | man..... |
| 21:28.34 | mindjuju | though last month i was there twice |
| 21:28.35 | orsonj | http://www.mpgtrikes.com/ (I have actually ridden the trike shown in the second large picture on this page) |
| 21:28.38 | PoeticIntensity | "thebigdog slaps mindjuju's bad eye" |
| 21:28.40 | PoeticIntensity | that's hilarious. |
| 21:28.49 | gibba[w] | mindjuju: good stuff eh? |
| 21:28.57 | mindjuju | dude, that's an awesome resturant |
| 21:29.05 | gibba[w] | i love the big group/family atmosphere they have |
| 21:29.18 | mindjuju | exactly. everything is laid back and relaxed |
| 21:29.20 | thebigdog | i need to go sometime |
| 21:29.31 | gibba[w] | mindjuju: did you do the kitchen table? |
| 21:29.32 | thebigdog | im just scarred to take mine out in public |
| 21:29.37 | orsonj | ~bucadebeppo++ |
| 21:29.50 | mindjuju | hven't, going to save that for a special date with my wife and I |
| 21:29.57 | mindjuju | thebigdog, you don't have to worry about the kids |
| 21:30.03 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, its funny cause im tired and its about time to go home |
| 21:30.09 | thebigdog | gave me the giggles though |
| 21:30.13 | mindjuju | it's really relaxed, etc |
| 21:30.22 | PoeticIntensity | I just pictured that...... |
| 21:30.33 | PoeticIntensity | kind of like a "3 Stooges-esque" -type thing... |
| 21:30.40 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 21:30.51 | mindjuju | ~nyuk PoeticIntensity |
| 21:30.52 | jbot | ACTION grabs PoeticIntensity nose and hammers it with his other hand! |
| 21:30.52 | thebigdog | it would be hilarious on my part |
| 21:31.17 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, now now.... |
| 21:31.22 | PoeticIntensity | don't get personal. ;-) |
| 21:31.26 | mindjuju | ~nyuk thebigdog |
| 21:31.27 | jbot | ACTION grabs thebigdog nose and hammers it with his other hand! |
| 21:31.45 | PoeticIntensity | ~crackskulls mindjuju |
| 21:31.46 | jbot | ACTION grabs mindjuju and timinator 's heads and slams them together knocking both unconscious. Jbot then turns to poeticintensity to see who else needs a wallop. |
| 21:31.54 | PoeticIntensity | awwwww yeah. |
| 21:32.00 | mindjuju | i love that one |
| 21:32.18 | macnewbold | ~lart mindjuju |
| 21:32.18 | jbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at mindjuju |
| 21:32.25 | PoeticIntensity | boo |
| 21:32.31 | mindjuju | ~dhit macnewbold |
| 21:32.31 | jbot | ACTION appears right behind macnewbold and slaps him in the back of the head |
| 21:32.44 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 21:32.44 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:32.54 | mindjuju | nice |
| 21:33.08 | thebigdog | timinator cracks me up...that is guy is hilarious |
| 21:33.44 | timinator | :) |
| 21:34.53 | timinator | ~flip thebigdog |
| 21:34.53 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:34.58 | thebigdog | ty |
| 21:36.14 | timinator | anytime bro |
| 21:41.34 | timinator | thebigdog: we need to go shooting sometime |
| 21:41.39 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 21:41.44 | thebigdog | i can next weekend |
| 21:41.49 | thebigdog | or week |
| 21:41.58 | timinator | that's cool |
| 21:42.23 | thebigdog | real men go shooting |
| 21:42.33 | timinator | I haven't gone for months, been dying to go |
| 21:42.36 | timinator | fo sho |
| 21:43.55 | mgeary | bambi killers |
| 21:46.36 | fungus | $shooter = in_array($target,$animals) ? 'EVIL' : 'GOOD'; |
| 21:50.08 | timinator | LOL |
| 21:51.17 | _psychic_ | do you mean $shooter == in_array() ? I think what you've got always resolves as true. |
| 21:51.32 | mgeary | no |
| 21:51.35 | mgeary | he's got it right |
| 21:51.55 | mgeary | if (in_array($target,$animals) return 'EVIL' else return 'GOOD' |
| 21:56.44 | timinator | $shooter = in_array($target,$female_pres_canidates) ? 'HERO ' : 'GOOD'; |
| 22:01.28 | timinator | a buddy of mine just got a new Chopper |
| 22:01.46 | timinator | http://files.konecnybros.com/chopper/ |
| 22:02.08 | mgeary | cool. what makes it a "Chopper"? |
| 22:03.20 | orsonj | the fact that it looks like something that could have come off of "West Cost Choppers" |
| 22:03.36 | orsonj | I think it is because of the sound, but I don't know really |
| 22:03.51 | orsonj | I think it is a particular style of bike. |
| 22:04.19 | timinator | ya, but I think it's like any facial tissue being called a kleenex. |
| 22:06.43 | orsonj | ~wiki Chopper (motorcycle) |
| 22:09.49 | mgeary | ~wiki Ghost Rider |
| 22:10.04 | mgeary | ~wiki Johnny Blaze |
| 22:10.09 | PoeticIntensity | hmmm.... I wonder why it doesn't use a chain. |
| 22:10.12 | mgeary | three we go |
| 22:10.28 | PoeticIntensity | looks like it's just using a belt to drive the rear wheel... |
| 22:10.30 | PoeticIntensity | :-? |
| 22:10.30 | timinator | Ghostriders was a great movie |
| 22:10.47 | timinator | yep.... couple of belts |
| 22:10.49 | beandog | you guys are insane. |
| 22:10.53 | timinator | looks killer |
| 22:11.12 | timinator | I dunno |
| 22:11.19 | PoeticIntensity | I would think that is terribly less durable... / stable... |
| 22:11.21 | PoeticIntensity | not sure. |
| 22:11.22 | PoeticIntensity | :-? |
| 22:11.32 | PoeticIntensity | it is pretty freaking cool, though. |
| 22:11.33 | timinator | the thing is fast and powerful though |
| 22:11.40 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... |
| 22:11.46 | PoeticIntensity | my 07 Mustang GT could take it.... |
| 22:12.01 | PoeticIntensity | if I got a 2-year head-start, that is. |
| 22:12.14 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:12.20 | timinator | get a shelby |
| 22:12.24 | timinator | 500 hp |
| 22:12.30 | PoeticIntensity | don't tempt me. |
| 22:12.41 | PoeticIntensity | the only thing keeping me from it, is my word to my wife. |
| 22:12.54 | orsonj | anyone see that electric sports car recently in the online news? |
| 22:12.58 | timinator | the guy that bought this chopper, plans on buying a shelby |
| 22:13.08 | PoeticIntensity | ouch. |
| 22:13.16 | PoeticIntensity | if I get one, it'll probably be in 1.5 years. |
| 22:13.25 | PoeticIntensity | the last year they're selling em' - beginning of the year. |
| 22:13.33 | timinator | fo sho |
| 22:13.53 | PoeticIntensity | hopefully they'll go for only 10K over the MSRP by then.... |
| 22:13.54 | PoeticIntensity | *sigh* |
| 22:16.13 | mgeary | ~wiki shelby |
| 22:16.31 | PoeticIntensity | ah, mgeary.... |
| 22:17.02 | timinator | ~wiki Shelby Mustand |
| 22:17.15 | timinator | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_Mustang |
| 22:19.02 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.dualmonitorbackgrounds.com/albums/vehicles/FordShelbyGT500.jpg |
| 22:20.25 | PoeticIntensity | man, timinator, I was working quite well until you mentioned the Shelby... |
| 22:20.28 | PoeticIntensity | now my day is shot. |
| 22:20.30 | mgeary | i notice there's no miles-per-gallon rating on that wiki page |
| 22:20.31 | PoeticIntensity | thanks a LOT ;-) |
| 22:20.39 | PoeticIntensity | between 17 and 21 |
| 22:20.41 | PoeticIntensity | MPG |
| 22:20.43 | mgeary | really?? |
| 22:20.45 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 22:20.46 | mgeary | that's impressive |
| 22:20.55 | PoeticIntensity | my Mustang GT gets between 19-25 |
| 22:21.16 | PoeticIntensity | I regularly get ~30 when I'm cruising @ 60MPH between SLC and Utah Valley. |
| 22:21.21 | PoeticIntensity | but... |
| 22:21.32 | PoeticIntensity | any faster than that, and the MPG goes down .... uhh... drastically. |
| 22:22.02 | timinator | lol |
| 22:22.11 | timinator | anytime PI |
| 22:22.20 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... thanks tons, bro. |
| 22:22.22 | PoeticIntensity | psh.... |
| 22:23.47 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:25.53 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow.... |
| 22:25.58 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't know about the Supersnake.... |
| 22:26.10 | PoeticIntensity | holy..... 750 HP. |
| 22:27.10 | timinator | WOW |
| 22:27.20 | PoeticIntensity | Now, seriously..... |
| 22:27.21 | timinator | That's crazy |
| 22:27.25 | PoeticIntensity | I mean..... |
| 22:27.40 | PoeticIntensity | with that much HP, you can pretty much kiss your tires goodbye. |
| 22:27.47 | PoeticIntensity | starting from a dig is..... |
| 22:27.51 | PoeticIntensity | ridiculous. |
| 22:28.06 | PoeticIntensity | I mean... with 300HP, I have to be careful to not burn the tires in first. |
| 22:28.09 | PoeticIntensity | but... |
| 22:28.14 | PoeticIntensity | SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY??!?!?! |
| 22:28.30 | timinator | crazy |
| 22:28.36 | PoeticIntensity | going down the road in 4th, you could probably burn the tires at 100 MPH. |
| 22:28.48 | PoeticIntensity | unbelievable. |
| 22:29.16 | mgeary | at some point you're just compensating |
| 22:29.37 | mgeary | i mean, don't you have to be a *little* insecure to go in for something like that? |
| 22:29.49 | PoeticIntensity | with the Super Snake.... You could beat pretty much anything on the road that cost less than $200,000.00 |
| 22:29.51 | timinator | mgeary is jealous |
| 22:29.59 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, heck no.... |
| 22:30.05 | PoeticIntensity | there's a whole Mustang cult.... |
| 22:30.10 | PoeticIntensity | It's American, for crying out loud... :) |
| 22:30.46 | PoeticIntensity | the people who I believe are compensating are the guys driving around in these pumped-up, jacked-up, turbo-charged trucks. |
| 22:31.22 | PoeticIntensity | there's just something about being thrown back in your seat... |
| 22:31.39 | PoeticIntensity | even if you're not racing anyone..... or in anyone's view, for that matter. |
| 22:31.59 | bradym | anyone know where i can find xlib.dll? trying to setup a reverse proxy in apache on windows ( my dev box ) and according to http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies I need xlib.dll but it doesn't seem to exist where they tell you to download it |
| 22:32.04 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, you should come to our next Salt-flats expedition... |
| 22:32.05 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:32.34 | PoeticIntensity | bradym, sorry.... don't believe I've heard of that. |
| 22:32.40 | PoeticIntensity | xlib.dll? |
| 22:32.43 | PoeticIntensity | is that a windows lib? |
| 22:32.52 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: in my 1997 Mazda Protege |
| 22:33.01 | PoeticIntensity | hehehe... |
| 22:33.07 | PoeticIntensity | we had a crown victoria and a highlander at the last one. |
| 22:33.16 | PoeticIntensity | it teaches you how to drive the car you have. |
| 22:33.25 | PoeticIntensity | spinning peeling..... etc... |
| 22:33.33 | PoeticIntensity | I think it's a blast. |
| 22:34.07 | bradym | apparently it's a pre-req for libxml2.dll, but it's not on the download site for libxml2.dll :( |
| 22:34.21 | timinator | Saturn Relay baby |
| 22:38.41 | PoeticIntensity | HOLY COW! |
| 22:38.47 | PoeticIntensity | Speed week is next week! |
| 22:38.48 | PoeticIntensity | ack! |
| 22:39.06 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.scta-bni.org/ |
| 22:39.43 | beandog | star trek convention this weekend, too |
| 22:40.01 | PoeticIntensity | Wanna go to the flats with me, beandog ? |
| 22:40.09 | beandog | not in my car, no |
| 22:40.12 | PoeticIntensity | k |
| 22:40.26 | beandog | besides, gonna sell mine |
| 22:40.26 | mgeary | anyone know offhand how to view a second monitor via VNC? |
| 22:40.27 | PoeticIntensity | guess I didn't.... cause I had a blast. |
| 22:41.02 | PoeticIntensity | BOTH times. |
| 22:41.29 | PoeticIntensity | you'll have to let me know what ya get for it, beandog... |
| 22:42.51 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, doesn't the whole resolution come through? |
| 22:43.01 | PoeticIntensity | are you talking a dual-monitor set up? |
| 22:43.05 | mgeary | dual monitor |
| 22:43.14 | PoeticIntensity | and it only sends one monitor through? |
| 22:43.20 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:43.22 | PoeticIntensity | weird. |
| 22:43.34 | PoeticIntensity | I've never tried a dual-monitor, but I use VNC all the time. |
| 22:44.00 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: ok |
| 22:44.17 | beandog | has anyone seen Bourne Supremacy |
| 22:44.20 | beandog | or whatever its called |
| 22:44.43 | beandog | Ultimatim |
| 22:44.46 | beandog | meh |
| 22:45.03 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: do you think a 10 year old could handle it |
| 22:45.08 | PoeticIntensity | but... we differ so drastically in our movie preferences, ....... |
| 22:45.09 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 22:45.19 | PoeticIntensity | it's pretty intense, but... |
| 22:45.21 | PoeticIntensity | not gory. |
| 22:45.29 | beandog | that's okay, he *loves* horror movies. |
| 22:45.30 | PoeticIntensity | I think so. |
| 22:45.32 | PoeticIntensity | oh.. |
| 22:45.32 | PoeticIntensity | well.. |
| 22:45.35 | PoeticIntensity | this is far from horror. |
| 22:45.36 | beandog | Im just worried about something excssively bad. |
| 22:45.44 | PoeticIntensity | nothin' bad in there... |
| 22:45.48 | PoeticIntensity | I think well.... |
| 22:45.50 | beandog | just a lotta kick-yo-butt |
| 22:45.54 | PoeticIntensity | there's an F-bomb. |
| 22:45.56 | PoeticIntensity | I think. |
| 22:46.01 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah... |
| 22:46.05 | beandog | well thats okay, I swear at him all the time. |
| 22:46.06 | PoeticIntensity | the action is .... awesome. |
| 22:46.10 | PoeticIntensity | ah.. okay. |
| 22:46.11 | beandog | ;) |
| 22:46.17 | PoeticIntensity | :-D |
| 22:46.40 | beandog | tell me no more |
| 22:46.43 | beandog | Im sure its gonna be sweet |
| 22:46.47 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 22:46.48 | beandog | the less I know, the better the experience |
| 22:46.59 | PoeticIntensity | I thought it was up there with the....... er.... TMNT. :) |
| 22:47.06 | PoeticIntensity | ;-) |
| 22:47.07 | beandog | you liked that one? |
| 22:47.10 | PoeticIntensity | (no) |
| 22:47.10 | beandog | did you seven see it? |
| 22:47.11 | PoeticIntensity | yes |
| 22:47.13 | beandog | oh man. |
| 22:47.17 | beandog | that movie rawked. |
| 22:47.21 | PoeticIntensity | reeked. |
| 22:47.29 | PoeticIntensity | nah... it wasn't that bad. |
| 22:47.30 | beandog | ~lobotomy PoeticIntensity |
| 22:47.30 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on PoeticIntensity |
| 22:47.34 | PoeticIntensity | but.... LOL |
| 22:47.48 | beandog | well |
| 22:47.53 | beandog | i was expecting something really crappy |
| 22:47.58 | beandog | so i was surprised |
| 22:48.05 | beandog | that it was even decent |
| 22:48.13 | mindjuju | the new TMNT movie? |
| 22:48.17 | beandog | yah |
| 22:48.21 | beandog | did you see it mindjuju ? |
| 22:48.38 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:48.44 | beandog | whatd yo uthink |
| 22:48.48 | mindjuju | any movie with Patrick Steward is awesome |
| 22:48.52 | mindjuju | by nature of him being in it |
| 22:48.57 | beandog | he was in there? |
| 22:49.04 | mindjuju | he was the general dude |
| 22:49.07 | beandog | oh |
| 22:49.29 | mindjuju | just saw the movie the other night while eating a late dinner |
| 22:49.46 | beandog | gotta buy that one |
| 22:51.03 | mindjuju | oh and sarah michelle geller was April o'neil not quiet as strong as Patrick Stewart, but hey, who isn't a buffy fan? |
| 22:51.31 | beandog | Ive never seen any buffy |
| 22:53.40 | mindjuju | its a decent enough show if you like shows about girls flying around and kicking bad guy butt |
| 22:53.54 | mindjuju | it's a little frilly on the edges, but not too bad |
| 22:57.48 | beandog | hmm |
| 22:57.51 | beandog | used to be on TV for a long time |
| 22:57.54 | beandog | I dont think it is anymore |
| 22:58.45 | beandog | I needs some Star Trek music. |
| 23:04.21 | mindjuju | i think i have some star trek OST |
| 23:04.51 | _psychic_ | First Contact ST is good |
| 23:05.15 | mgeary | Khaaaaaannnnnn!!!!!!!! |
| 23:05.17 | beandog | this ones pretty good |
| 23:06.26 | beandog | London? |
| 23:06.28 | beandog | whats that |
| 23:06.42 | mindjuju | Freakin' Symphony Bishop's Countdown from the movie Aliens |
| 23:07.01 | timinator | I'm out... later guys |
| 23:07.34 | mgeary | oooooohhhhh |
| 23:07.44 | mindjuju | beandog, have you seen that movie, Aliens? |
| 23:08.23 | mgeary | i have that album |
| 23:08.26 | mgeary | that's a goodun |
| 23:08.36 | mindjuju | yup, with the F14 flying overhead to start the song |
| 23:08.42 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:08.49 | mgeary | but you should have done something with "Freedom" to keep the tangent rolling |
| 23:09.01 | mgeary | london->calling->freedom->....? |
| 23:09.09 | mindjuju | i countered with Russian Radio, the opposite of freedom |
| 23:09.11 | mindjuju | pravada |
| 23:09.12 | mgeary | hahahah |
| 23:10.52 | mindjuju | from the Musical the Little Shop of Horrors |
| 23:11.43 | mgeary | (meek->humble) |
| 23:12.39 | mindjuju | hmmm... |
| 23:12.50 | mindjuju | humble? |
| 23:13.20 | mindjuju | don't know if that quite matches exactly |
| 23:13.28 | mindjuju | sup dataw0lf |
| 23:14.38 | mindjuju | triump v humility |
| 23:15.53 | beandog | mindjuju: nope |
| 23:16.01 | mindjuju | nope? |
| 23:16.05 | beandog | havent seen it |
| 23:16.30 | fungus | http://pirate-party.us/ |
| 23:17.40 | beandog | eh? |
| 23:17.59 | mindjuju | man! i didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! |
| 23:18.27 | mindjuju | ah beandog, you have to have the Monty Python album,or have seen MP : Flying Circus |
| 23:18.40 | beandog | neither |
| 23:19.44 | mindjuju | beandog, you MUST watch this |
| 23:19.45 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZQI0Xm29To |
| 23:20.34 | bradym | anyone done reverse proxy with apache? |
| 23:22.53 | dataw0lf | bradym: yes. |
| 23:24.53 | mindjuju | beandog, when you are done with that one about the Spanish Inquisition, you should watch this one about the comfy chair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnS49c9KZw8 |
| 23:25.28 | bradym | dataw0lf: i'm trying to get a reverse proxy working on my dev machine and i'm getting "Reason: Max-Forwards has reached zero - proxy loop?" - my config is http://pastebin.ca/651723 |
| 23:27.27 | dataw0lf | uh, why are you pointing the reverse proxy at itself? |
| 23:27.29 | dataw0lf | that's the problem |
| 23:27.36 | dataw0lf | ProxyPass / http://dev.example.com/ |
| 23:27.53 | dataw0lf | it'll go through an infinite loop, keep on redirecting to itself |
| 23:30.02 | bradym | hmm.. i'm trying to make it replace "www.example.com" with "dev.example.com" in the links.. and i'm not really sure what i'm doing with reverse proxies ;) |
| 23:31.18 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 23:31.27 | dataw0lf | do you have DNS control? Why don't you just setup the subdomain? |
| 23:32.26 | bradym | well.. we have a testing subdomain, but we've been told to get this working on our local machines as well |
| 23:32.40 | dataw0lf | oh. |
| 23:32.43 | dataw0lf | use mod_rewrite then |
| 23:33.44 | dataw0lf | http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum92/5586.htm |
| 23:33.47 | bradym | hmm.. that would work.. |
| 23:33.48 | dataw0lf | that's fairly similar |
| 23:37.14 | bradym | maybe not.. the issue is that the links are hardcoded for this site, and we need to make apache use the dev version instead of going to the web version when a user clicks a link on the dev site.. don't think mod_rewrite will work for that |
| 23:38.35 | fungus | Is the "a user" under your control? |
| 23:39.01 | fungus | Can you control their name resolution? |
| 23:40.22 | bradym | yeah, it's for the devs on my team so i can tell them to put something in the hosts file (which we're doing already, so it's nothing new) |
| 23:41.09 | fungus | So just do that. Leave apache alone. |
| 23:42.02 | fungus | If the links are hard coded w/ www. Then you either have to use some kind of output filter, or just use the hosts file to resolve www.domain to the Ip of the dev server. |
| 23:42.57 | dataw0lf | yea, just use the hosts file |
| 23:43.11 | bradym | Yeah, that would work.. but then any time we needed to make suer something was working on the live server we'd have to change hosts file.. trying to avoid that |
| 23:43.13 | fungus | mod_rewrite, mod_proxy, etc is for mangling and processing requests, not output |
| 23:44.13 | fungus | The real solution, IMHO, is to fix the dev site to *not* hardcode the site name in the URLs. |
| 23:44.26 | dataw0lf | yea, no kidding. |
| 23:44.38 | dataw0lf | variables are mighty good things. |
| 23:44.51 | fungus | yuppers |
| 23:45.40 | fungus | <a href="http://<?=$_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']?>/some_page"> |
| 23:45.55 | fungus | That's a quickie way to do it. |
| 23:46.03 | bradym | very true, but unfortunately that's not gonna happen anytime soon with this site... |
| 23:46.05 | bradym | :( |
| 23:46.19 | fungus | doh. then you have to resort to hosts files. |
| 23:47.44 | fungus | sed -i 's/www.example.com/<?=$_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"]?>/' file file file ... |
| 23:47.52 | dataw0lf | fungus: argh, you got to it first ;) |
| 23:47.55 | fungus | simple fix |
| 23:48.09 | bradym | yeah... i wish that was an option... |
| 23:48.17 | bradym | i got it working :) |
| 23:48.56 | bradym | setup another virtual host and send traffic there |
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