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| 01:53.20 | thebigdog | evening everyone |
| 01:55.42 | mindjuju | sup |
| 01:55.48 | thebigdog | not much |
| 01:55.50 | thebigdog | just working |
| 01:56.25 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm having to redo a design that looked beautiful --> to a design common from '95 because that is the way it is wanted |
| 01:56.40 | thebigdog | haha that sucks |
| 01:56.46 | mindjuju | so, i'm gouging my eyes out as i rewrite the css so that i don't have to see it |
| 01:57.14 | thebigdog | nice |
| 01:57.22 | thebigdog | im working on some security for a site |
| 01:59.32 | mindjuju | dude, check this out. it's a travesty. I had this site sooo beautiful, it's horrendous now |
| 01:59.33 | mindjuju | http://www.billgood.com/users07/ |
| 02:00.39 | mindjuju | i should have saved a pic of the site before, it was portfolio good |
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| 02:01.05 | thebigdog | ug...that is nasty |
| 02:01.10 | mindjuju | everything was fast and peppy, heaviest page was like 40k beautiful masthead web2.0 colors |
| 02:01.18 | mindjuju | yeah, i know |
| 02:10.41 | mindjuju | ok, i just negotiated and got control back of the page so i can redesign as the site design has officially crashed. thebigdog, have you seen any webpages where the masthead is a flashdesign on top where the background is black? |
| 02:10.47 | mindjuju | i need some killer inspiration |
| 02:11.05 | thebigdog | eyah i have seen them |
| 02:11.50 | thebigdog | wps has done some with some limit flash |
| 02:12.11 | thebigdog | he mainly used it for the navigation section |
| 02:12.18 | mindjuju | i wish this flash animation was more than black and red |
| 02:30.10 | thebigdog | i wish i could get this security stuff playing nicely |
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| 02:42.06 | thebigdog | the more and more i use mysql the more and more i hate it |
| 02:42.39 | mindjuju | heh |
| 02:44.22 | thebigdog | i wish i had fk refs |
| 02:44.55 | thebigdog | ~seen beandog |
| 02:44.57 | jbot | beandog is currently on #uphpu, last said: 'bah, actually its only doing it in seamonkey'. |
| 02:45.14 | thebigdog | beandog, you around? |
| 02:50.08 | influx^_^ | mindjuju: Are you using floats on that page? |
| 02:50.15 | mindjuju | some |
| 02:50.49 | mindjuju | but remember, that is no longer my design |
| 02:51.00 | influx^_^ | You get to start over? |
| 02:51.05 | mindjuju | it was taken over, jacked up |
| 02:51.23 | mindjuju | yeah, the design pratically was stollen, crashed into a tree, then said, oh yeah, it sux, ok, fix it |
| 02:51.53 | mindjuju | so i'm pulling out my old PSDs, and getting ready to fix it |
| 02:52.12 | mindjuju | and putting on Robot Chicken :: Star Wars to help lighten my attitude |
| 02:53.50 | influx^_^ | Aye. |
| 02:54.03 | influx^_^ | Mind if I look at some jpg versions of your psds? |
| 02:55.27 | mindjuju | well, i was lamenting the fact that I didn't screen shot and save in my portfolio the original design, i have the original mast though, hang on and I'll get you a URL |
| 02:55.47 | influx^_^ | by the way: I like the "your mama" battle between the emperor and darth (or luke, I don't remember.) |
| 02:56.08 | mindjuju | luke -- thats my fav part too |
| 02:57.45 | influx^_^ | a lightsaber has fewer calories... |
| 02:57.47 | influx^_^ | genius |
| 03:22.51 | thebigdog | that is a classic |
| 03:22.56 | mindjuju | is it really possible for your character to be set on fire in WoW? |
| 03:23.43 | thebigdog | yes |
| 03:24.02 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 03:24.14 | thebigdog | there are a couple ways to do it |
| 03:25.59 | thebigdog | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/spells.html |
| 03:26.02 | thebigdog | mage for one does it |
| 03:26.19 | thebigdog | there are others |
| 03:26.44 | mindjuju | yeah, looks like this dude got set on fire by a spell in sp |
| 03:26.53 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 03:28.00 | thebigdog | here is my mage - http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodscalp&n=Pinkiepie |
| 03:29.11 | thebigdog | that sp video has some funny stuff |
| 03:29.17 | thebigdog | they are alliance |
| 03:29.26 | thebigdog | and some of the stuff they are wearing is horde gear |
| 03:30.36 | mindjuju | why don't you have any gear on your head or neck? |
| 03:30.54 | thebigdog | cause i have not gotten any yet |
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| 12:41.52 | jgiboney | good morning everyone!!! |
| 12:53.26 | jsmith | G'morning |
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| 14:52.43 | josephscott | wps, more spam on http://uphpu.org/2007/04/02/utah-graphic-artists-forum-launched/ |
| 14:59.02 | wps | Thanks. Just noticed that myself as well. |
| 14:59.12 | wps | I need to get WP updated. |
| 14:59.26 | josephscott | yep :-) |
| 14:59.35 | wps | perhaps I'll have time to do that this week as I just finished up some projects. |
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| 15:18.07 | wps | why? why? why? |
| 15:18.14 | wps | why do we need yet another? |
| 15:18.20 | wps | http://www.goyin.com/ |
| 15:18.51 | wps | why is Utah such a petri dish for this crap? |
| 15:19.13 | beandog | heh |
| 15:20.12 | wps | ancient remedy special fruit of the islands to nutricutical this or that… I swear there are more of these companies in Utah now then there are 7Eleven's turned payday loan shops |
| 15:22.31 | wps | sorry… I probably shouldn't be so publicly blunt… there's probably people in here with loved ones involved in said companies |
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| 15:35.37 | wps | because Utah's are gullible, overly trusting, and want something for nothing? |
| 15:39.29 | beandog | I think Ill bottle water and pass it off as a miracle cure |
| 15:39.36 | beandog | just add lemon and change the color. |
| 15:40.21 | wps | but it has to be based off of an asian medicine formule that blends exotic super-fruits and powerful herbs! |
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| 15:41.19 | wps | you have to combine traditional healing remedies with advanced technology! |
| 15:41.34 | wps | put put images on your website like this! http://www.goyin.com/images/yinyang.jpg |
| 15:41.49 | jsmith | And an innovative marketing scheme... where you can get rich without even working! |
| 15:42.00 | wps | exactly |
| 15:43.47 | timinator | fo sho |
| 15:45.03 | jsmith | That's one nice thing about living in the (pseudo-) South... nobody gives a flying flip how much you make or whether or not you have an RV or a boat |
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| 15:46.37 | _psychic_ | morning |
| 15:46.45 | wps | good morning |
| 15:46.46 | SunSparc | thebigdog: My brother and I looked for you on Friday night but never saw you. |
| 15:46.57 | wps | could I interest you in some ancient super-fruit juice? |
| 15:46.57 | SunSparc | Morning! |
| 15:47.07 | thebigdog | SunSparc, i got on real late...i had some wife aggro |
| 15:47.16 | SunSparc | hehe, understandable. |
| 15:47.38 | thebigdog | so i took here to see transformers |
| 15:47.51 | thebigdog | i got online about 12:30am |
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| 15:48.07 | SunSparc | I also realized that if I picked a race that was different than what you were using I would not have been able to play with you anyway. Aside from that, I did not have Burning Crusade, so I upgraded over the weekend. |
| 15:48.21 | SunSparc | Awesome! What did she think of Transformers? |
| 15:48.26 | SunSparc | My wife loved it. |
| 15:48.27 | wps | there's only a one time fee of $20,000 to join and then you get free access to the network as long as you purchase at least $4,000 worth of juice each month! |
| 15:48.27 | thebigdog | she loved it |
| 15:48.39 | thebigdog | SunSparc, what char did you rolll? |
| 15:48.48 | jsmith | wps: What about money for nothing? |
| 15:48.58 | timinator | jsmith: is that why Utah is the highest in Bankruptcies and Prescription Drug dependancies? |
| 15:49.07 | SunSparc | wps: Count me. I have that kind of pocket change. |
| 15:49.09 | jsmith | wps: "Money for nothing and the anti-oxidants for free?" |
| 15:49.16 | wps | bing! |
| 15:49.24 | SunSparc | thebigdog: I started a Blood Elf. |
| 15:49.28 | thebigdog | oh nice |
| 15:49.41 | thebigdog | hunter? |
| 15:49.51 | SunSparc | Priest |
| 15:50.01 | thebigdog | way cool |
| 15:50.01 | wps | oh… it's easy… once you have a network of at least 14 beneath you, their sub-network will more than fill the monthly order… so you won't have to do anything! |
| 15:50.17 | wps | the money will just flow in! |
| 15:50.17 | thebigdog | SunSparc, you going to play tonight? |
| 15:50.51 | jsmith | wps: MLMs are a tax on people who are bad at math and combinatorics |
| 15:50.59 | SunSparc | thebigdog: not likely. I usually only have time on the weekends, unless something wierd happens and I have extra time in the evenings. ;) |
| 15:51.13 | _psychic_ | jsmith: lol |
| 15:51.18 | thebigdog | SunSparc, cool then i will make sure im on htis weekend |
| 15:51.20 | wps | amen to that |
| 15:51.30 | wps | LOL!!! |
| 15:51.52 | SunSparc | thebigdog: I will watch for you whenever I am online. |
| 15:52.09 | SunSparc | wps: you have a fish on your desk? |
| 15:52.20 | wps | indeed |
| 15:52.25 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:52.25 | wps | I have to pound out the oil |
| 15:52.38 | jsmith | wps: Secret ancient fish oils! |
| 15:52.41 | wps | it is part of the secret ingredients in the super-fruit juice |
| 15:52.47 | wps | :) |
| 15:52.51 | wps | s/fish/fist/ |
| 15:53.00 | jsmith | fish fruit! |
| 15:53.15 | jsmith | Sounds delicious... like a lightly-seared tuna with mango salsa |
| 15:53.34 | wps | like I said… it's only $20,000 to join |
| 15:54.22 | jsmith | Just think how much sushi I could buy for $20,000 |
| 15:54.44 | wps | Sushi-ya? |
| 15:54.50 | _psychic_ | highly recommended |
| 15:54.54 | _psychic_ | a little pricey |
| 15:54.54 | wps | Sushi? Yeah! |
| 15:54.55 | _psychic_ | but good |
| 15:55.03 | _psychic_ | sushiya = sushi store |
| 15:55.06 | _psychic_ | panya = bread store |
| 15:55.14 | _psychic_ | bumbogouya = stationery story |
| 15:55.16 | _psychic_ | *store |
| 15:55.26 | wps | are you making this up? |
| 15:56.35 | _psychic_ | no |
| 15:59.10 | wps | interesting |
| 15:59.17 | wps | I haven't heard of any of those places |
| 15:59.32 | _psychic_ | sushi-ya is in orem |
| 15:59.39 | _psychic_ | the other two are just japanese words |
| 15:59.44 | wps | ah |
| 15:59.58 | _psychic_ | was trying to explain the "ya" |
| 16:00.08 | wps | ah |
| 16:00.08 | wps | got it |
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| 16:13.50 | thebigdog | _psychic_, so panya is bread store? |
| 16:14.08 | beandog | thebigdog: were you looking fo rme |
| 16:14.16 | thebigdog | beandog, last night i was |
| 16:14.26 | thebigdog | you very familiar with vobcopy? |
| 16:14.41 | _psychic_ | thebigdog: yeah |
| 16:14.47 | _psychic_ | (iirc) |
| 16:14.49 | beandog | thebigdog: yah whats up |
| 16:14.53 | thebigdog | pan (spanish) = bread |
| 16:15.01 | mgeary | latin |
| 16:15.07 | mgeary | pan == bread in latin |
| 16:15.12 | thebigdog | yep |
| 16:15.15 | mgeary | hence we get "pain" (french), and PANtry |
| 16:15.17 | mgeary | etc |
| 16:15.29 | mgeary | One wonders if Japan didn't have bread, as we know of it, until western explorers came |
| 16:15.45 | thebigdog | beandog, you ever use it to copy select titles |
| 16:15.53 | beandog | no, I use mplayer for that. |
| 16:16.12 | thebigdog | oh |
| 16:16.14 | _psychic_ | mgeary: thebigdog: pan is a borrowed word in japanese afaik |
| 16:16.23 | _psychic_ | I think its true they didn't |
| 16:16.33 | mgeary | savages |
| 16:16.36 | mgeary | ;) |
| 16:16.42 | _psychic_ | ha |
| 16:16.47 | thebigdog | too much rice...no need |
| 16:17.09 | mgeary | or the miniseries, for that matter |
| 16:17.28 | thebigdog | beandog, you know the command to copy vobs in mplayer off the top your head |
| 16:17.33 | beandog | yah |
| 16:17.38 | beandog | find the track # you want |
| 16:17.50 | beandog | mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.vob dvd://$track |
| 16:18.01 | dataw0lf | hidey ho! |
| 16:18.11 | dataw0lf | 25 doesn't feel much different than 24 |
| 16:18.17 | thebigdog | lol |
| 16:18.23 | thebigdog | beandog, ty let me try that |
| 16:18.26 | mgeary | ~sing dataw0lf |
| 16:18.36 | mgeary | ~happybirthday dataw0lf |
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| 16:28.24 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: you can rent cars now |
| 16:28.24 | _psychic_ | insurance can also be lower too |
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| 16:28.24 | thebigdog | insurance might go down a bit...but 25 and married and it drops like crazy |
| 16:28.24 | orsonj | I hit that combination last month and got a call from some insurance company saying that rates in logan had just dropped... |
| 16:29.31 | mgeary | oh, and guys, don't forget to tell dataw0lf about the coming of you-know-what. dataw0lf, you're going to start of have certain... thoughts. Now, don't be ashamed of them, it's very natural, and everyone goes through it. You may even find yourself doodling things like, "no new taxes", and "stay the course". Just remember, that conservatism is a slowly developing condition, and you can enjoy the rest of your twenties before you really need to worry about getting |
| 16:30.01 | dataw0lf | the day I become a conservative, I'm falling on my sword like a true Roman soldier |
| 16:31.13 | thebigdog | is brandon or ken on irc? |
| 16:32.20 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: that creates a nasty breed of zombie-con |
| 16:32.57 | mgeary | heh. sounds like a new OSS convention. "Are you registering for ZombieCON?" |
| 16:34.56 | _psychic_ | I'm starting to wonder if anyone who votes republican might as well this time around |
| 16:35.33 | dataw0lf | better than anything you're offering currently |
| 16:35.47 | dataw0lf | half the GOP nowadays is gay or a child molestor, the other half is really evil. |
| 16:36.39 | _psychic_ | I like what I've heard from Ron Paul, despite my resistance to like him because of his internet popularity |
| 16:36.59 | _psychic_ | I really dislike Romney, which was somewhat disappointing. |
| 16:37.59 | mgeary | i actually don't *dislike* Romney, but i find it unfortunate that he's felt he has to change his position in order to appeal to a broader right-wing audience |
| 16:38.02 | thebigdog | the real question is who do you really like...the lesser of evils |
| 16:39.03 | _psychic_ | romney is a textbook example of the difference between politician and statesman |
| 16:39.15 | _psychic_ | just answer a freaking question, please. |
| 16:39.29 | thebigdog | that is my biggest issue with all politicians |
| 16:40.30 | _psychic_ | that's kinda why I like Paul |
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| 16:41.24 | thebigdog | beandog, seems to be working good |
| 16:45.04 | _psychic_ | kinda sucks though, because power is in the party |
| 16:45.04 | thebigdog | same here |
| 16:45.04 | _psychic_ | well, two of them, anyway |
| 16:45.04 | SunSparc | That frees me up to vote for whoever is going to be the best leader for America. I can't stand parties. That are all worthless. |
| 16:45.08 | wps | anyone see Man of the Year, with Robin Williams? |
| 16:45.28 | thebigdog | wps, yes that was a great show |
| 16:45.34 | wps | I was laughing so hard |
| 16:45.39 | SunSparc | Parties are for "winning" elections, nothing else. We do not need leaders who can win elections. We need leaders who care about the country and not what their position will do for them and how good their polls are. |
| 16:45.53 | wps | it had a very strong political message though |
| 16:46.14 | thebigdog | SunSparc, its all about the power and $ |
| 16:46.21 | _psychic_ | yeah you gotta win first :) |
| 16:47.41 | SunSparc | thebigdog: That is exactly right. That is what is currently all about. But it should not be. |
| 16:47.44 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:47.52 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 16:48.44 | dataw0lf | Ratatouille = awesome |
| 16:49.02 | thebigdog | boring really |
| 16:49.12 | thebigdog | now transformers was great |
| 16:49.20 | dataw0lf | Ratatouille wasn't boring |
| 16:49.39 | thebigdog | they should be making transformers 2 |
| 16:50.19 | SunSparc | They left it open enough. |
| 16:51.24 | cole_joplin | Ratatouille was designed for an audience, as was Transformers |
| 16:51.37 | cole_joplin | my son, not interested in Transformers |
| 16:51.56 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: they've already signed two more with the same cast |
| 16:52.02 | SunSparc | He would probably be interested once he started watching it. :) |
| 16:52.02 | beandog | thebigdog: good |
| 16:52.06 | cole_joplin | a mouse running away from knives, now that's entertainment |
| 16:52.16 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: cool! |
| 16:52.30 | cole_joplin | Transformers is more about special effects |
| 16:52.43 | dataw0lf | Ratatouille is plot / story driven, like all Pixar movies |
| 16:52.46 | dataw0lf | which is why they rock |
| 16:52.53 | cole_joplin | Rat is more about plot |
| 16:53.06 | beandog | dataw0lf: signed two more what? |
| 16:53.11 | beandog | not transformers sequels, I hope. |
| 16:53.13 | dataw0lf | beandog: two more Transformers movies |
| 16:53.16 | beandog | oh geez. |
| 16:53.19 | cole_joplin | Disney tried to do do a Pixar with Chicken Little |
| 16:53.24 | dataw0lf | Batman Begins has a sequel in the works too |
| 16:53.25 | cole_joplin | but the plot wasn't there |
| 16:53.34 | dataw0lf | and the writing wasn't there either |
| 16:53.38 | cole_joplin | hence they bought Pixar |
| 16:53.38 | dataw0lf | Pixar has incredible writers |
| 16:54.04 | beandog | seems pretty simple to me... if you spend $18 million on a title star, and $500,000 on a script ... something is wrong. |
| 16:54.05 | cole_joplin | Pixar's success is they have good animation AND good story |
| 16:54.15 | cole_joplin | good animation is not enough |
| 16:54.19 | beandog | plus, Ive heard that Disney's movies mostly suck because the executives all put their votes in of what they want |
| 16:54.41 | cole_joplin | yes |
| 16:55.00 | jgiboney | i wish I had a rat on my head helping me do everything I need to do perfectly |
| 16:55.02 | cole_joplin | Have you seen the trailer ofr Wall.E? |
| 16:55.04 | beandog | I wouldnt be surprised if Pixar gets equally raped by Disney within the next 5 to 10 years. |
| 16:55.16 | beandog | jgiboney: lol |
| 16:55.28 | cole_joplin | Pixar came up with their subjects over one lunch |
| 16:55.40 | cole_joplin | or writers and producers |
| 16:56.28 | cole_joplin | Disney doesn't have a culture where creative/producing people sit together like human beings |
| 16:56.42 | _psychic_ | they used to |
| 16:56.58 | cole_joplin | Yes, because alt ws an animator himself |
| 16:57.02 | _psychic_ | I've read some great things about the Disney Imagineering days |
| 16:57.45 | cole_joplin | Walt was |
| 16:57.45 | _psychic_ | and that's not just films, that's parks, products, etc. |
| 16:57.45 | cole_joplin | so Pixar is doing what Walt did originally |
| 16:58.21 | cole_joplin | anyway, Transformers looks cool, but my son wasn't interested |
| 16:58.32 | cole_joplin | so I doubt I'll see it |
| 16:58.45 | thebigdog | cole_joplin, how old is your son? |
| 16:58.54 | cole_joplin | 10 |
| 16:58.59 | cole_joplin | and autistic |
| 17:00.45 | cole_joplin | autistic kids tend to relate to running away, rather than confrontation, too many social demands |
| 17:01.25 | cole_joplin | Transformers is a battle with consequences, world domination |
| 17:01.50 | cole_joplin | it's much more fun to run away from knives, and getting away and being cute |
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| 17:02.13 | cole_joplin | the adventure is more immediate |
| 17:02.20 | _psychic_ | why do some people have voice and others not? |
| 17:02.24 | cole_joplin | it's nt so global |
| 17:02.39 | wps | voice shouldn't matter in here |
| 17:02.49 | wps | you don't need it to speak |
| 17:02.55 | cole_joplin | they are different, because they have different parts of the brain that are damaged |
| 17:03.05 | cole_joplin | and to different degrees |
| 17:03.06 | _psychic_ | wps: that's why I ask |
| 17:03.33 | cole_joplin | that's why it's hard to figure out, because the kids are so different |
| 17:03.45 | wps | I do know why, _psychic_ |
| 17:03.57 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 17:03.59 | wps | I think that mindjuju and thebigdog handed it out |
| 17:04.06 | wps | s/do/do not/ |
| 17:04.20 | beandog | I think it kind of leans towards those who are most chatty, get voiced. |
| 17:04.29 | wps | oops… jbot corrected the wrong comment |
| 17:04.31 | beandog | who konws. |
| 17:04.33 | wps | I do not know why they did |
| 17:04.45 | beandog | its all irrelevant though |
| 17:05.27 | thebigdog | we do it based on the chattiness of the individual |
| 17:05.52 | thebigdog | its part of the participation aspect...gold star on forehead |
| 17:06.53 | beandog | mgeary: what chat client you using |
| 17:06.58 | mgeary | Colloquy |
| 17:07.14 | _psychic_ | $colloquy++ |
| 17:21.13 | thebigdog | wps you around? |
| 17:21.18 | wps | yes |
| 17:25.26 | jgiboney | what is conference mode? |
| 17:25.59 | dataw0lf | /w/win 2 |
| 17:26.01 | dataw0lf | argh |
| 17:27.22 | PoeticIntensity | a'ight all you PGSQL fans out there.... Got a question for ya. |
| 17:27.40 | thebigdog | shoot |
| 17:27.52 | PoeticIntensity | I have to transfer approx 10 million rows from an oracle table into a pg table. |
| 17:27.55 | PoeticIntensity | how is the best way to do that? |
| 17:28.00 | beandog | prayer |
| 17:28.03 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 17:28.03 | thebigdog | lol |
| 17:28.08 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 17:28.09 | PoeticIntensity | well.... I tried runnin' a php script... |
| 17:28.15 | PoeticIntensity | limited it to 100,000 rows... |
| 17:28.18 | PoeticIntensity | and it took about 2 minutes to run. |
| 17:28.19 | dataw0lf | 8| |
| 17:28.29 | _psychic_ | turn up your php execution time |
| 17:28.29 | beandog | selecting or importing |
| 17:28.32 | _psychic_ | and memory limit |
| 17:28.32 | thebigdog | you need to dump them to files |
| 17:28.34 | PoeticIntensity | I did. |
| 17:28.38 | _psychic_ | no errors? |
| 17:28.39 | PoeticIntensity | _psychic_. |
| 17:28.41 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 17:28.44 | PoeticIntensity | no errors... |
| 17:28.47 | thebigdog | why are u using php? just command line it |
| 17:28.50 | PoeticIntensity | I just really think there's a better way. |
| 17:28.56 | PoeticIntensity | I'm using PHP CLI. |
| 17:28.59 | PoeticIntensity | (because I don't know bash) |
| 17:28.59 | _psychic_ | same schema? |
| 17:28.59 | thebigdog | why? |
| 17:29.10 | PoeticIntensity | ummm..... |
| 17:29.10 | thebigdog | use sqlplus and pgsql |
| 17:29.10 | PoeticIntensity | no |
| 17:29.13 | PoeticIntensity | different schema. |
| 17:29.15 | _psychic_ | you don't need a script if the schema is comparable |
| 17:29.19 | PoeticIntensity | it's not. |
| 17:29.20 | _psychic_ | ah |
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| 17:29.28 | beandog | I wonder if you could use ADODB to do a direct transfer. |
| 17:29.34 | beandog | Although, that can get pretty ugly. |
| 17:29.39 | thebigdog | sqlplus and pgsql |
| 17:29.41 | PoeticIntensity | I'll only have to do it once. |
| 17:29.48 | PoeticIntensity | thebigdog, please 'splain a bit more... |
| 17:29.55 | _psychic_ | thebigdog: that translates between different schemas? |
| 17:29.57 | beandog | thebigdog: sqlplus part of oracle, i guess? |
| 17:30.03 | PoeticIntensity | I know what those to commands are, but I wouldn't have a clue how to use em' together. |
| 17:30.08 | thebigdog | dump oracle as inserts then pipe to psql |
| 17:30.09 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, yes. |
| 17:30.16 | beandog | ah, right |
| 17:30.18 | beandog | yah, that's easy. |
| 17:30.31 | PoeticIntensity | I'll have to investigate that a bit... |
| 17:30.45 | PoeticIntensity | so far, my experience with sqlplus has been quite poor. |
| 17:30.57 | PoeticIntensity | but.... I do have it installed. |
| 17:31.31 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for the help, thebigdog. |
| 17:31.34 | PoeticIntensity | I'll look into that. |
| 17:31.38 | thebigdog | np |
| 17:31.51 | thebigdog | oracle has some dump utilities like exp |
| 17:31.54 | thebigdog | check those out |
| 17:31.59 | PoeticIntensity | ah... one more question..... could I translate between schemas? |
| 17:32.11 | PoeticIntensity | the two tables are.... quite different. |
| 17:32.13 | thebigdog | what do you mean translate? |
| 17:32.20 | PoeticIntensity | table1 != table2 |
| 17:32.27 | PoeticIntensity | at all. |
| 17:32.30 | PoeticIntensity | field names... |
| 17:32.33 | PoeticIntensity | number of fields. |
| 17:32.38 | thebigdog | table1 (oracle) != table2 (pgsql)? |
| 17:32.52 | PoeticIntensity | correct..... the schemas are different as well. |
| 17:33.05 | thebigdog | ok this is how i would do it then |
| 17:33.09 | beandog | well does oracle let you do sql dumps using select statements? |
| 17:33.29 | thebigdog | beandog, you can create temp tables for that |
| 17:33.35 | beandog | ah, true. |
| 17:33.35 | thebigdog | and dump the tmp table |
| 17:33.42 | beandog | SELECT INTO foo |
| 17:33.44 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 17:33.57 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, i would dump the oracle data into xml file |
| 17:34.04 | thebigdog | then i would transform it to pgsql schema |
| 17:34.08 | thebigdog | then insert into pgsql |
| 17:34.13 | PoeticIntensity | that's what I'll do. |
| 17:34.17 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, what os you on? |
| 17:34.22 | beandog | XML? You sickos. |
| 17:34.30 | PoeticIntensity | the one, true OS. |
| 17:34.32 | PoeticIntensity | gentoo. |
| 17:34.34 | thebigdog | k |
| 17:34.39 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 17:34.46 | thebigdog | i would create xslt transform file |
| 17:34.51 | thebigdog | or you could use php |
| 17:34.56 | thebigdog | which ever is easier |
| 17:35.05 | dataw0lf | imagine, a Gentoo user not knowing bash |
| 17:35.07 | PoeticIntensity | I'm quite familiar with the DOM of PHP. |
| 17:35.14 | PoeticIntensity | kinda weird. |
| 17:35.18 | thebigdog | i would not do xml and php |
| 17:35.19 | beandog | dataw0lf: lols |
| 17:35.21 | thebigdog | too slow |
| 17:35.35 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, that actually is extremely funny |
| 17:35.38 | orsonj | well, you know it isn't too bad with those stage 15 installs |
| 17:35.59 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: and not the least bit surprising |
| 17:36.08 | dataw0lf | even figuring in how fast bash is |
| 17:36.12 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, if you can get insert statements from oracle we can get it to psql with no issues |
| 17:36.29 | PoeticIntensity | maybe I should take this time to learn bash. |
| 17:36.44 | PoeticIntensity | I know a bit of perl, too. |
| 17:36.49 | dataw0lf | ya, since you're a Gentoo user, it should only take a couple years |
| 17:36.49 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, i would use xml and xslt to transform and use xsltproc to do it on the command line |
| 17:36.56 | thebigdog | then pipe that into pgsql |
| 17:37.00 | dataw0lf | if you can get the documentation in picture book style |
| 17:37.13 | PoeticIntensity | thebigdog, thank you. |
| 17:37.28 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, or you can use awk and sed too |
| 17:37.33 | _psychic_ | xml? |
| 17:37.45 | dataw0lf | awk and sed? |
| 17:37.54 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: you can't give that to a gentoo user |
| 17:37.59 | thebigdog | hahaha |
| 17:38.10 | dataw0lf | it's like giving nuclear capabilities to somalia |
| 17:38.17 | thebigdog | right |
| 17:38.19 | dataw0lf | they'll either destroy themselves or everyone around them |
| 17:38.29 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 17:39.11 | beandog | hee hee |
| 17:39.28 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, just dump oracle data and let dataw0lf work his magic |
| 17:39.38 | thebigdog | aint that right timinator |
| 17:39.47 | thebigdog | ~pimpslap timinator |
| 17:39.47 | jbot | thebigdog pimpslaps timinator. ouch! |
| 17:40.16 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, where you work at? |
| 17:40.36 | PoeticIntensity | Springville |
| 17:40.44 | thebigdog | what company again? |
| 17:40.52 | PoeticIntensity | Nature's Way |
| 17:41.32 | PoeticIntensity | why? |
| 17:42.19 | thebigdog | curious why you have oracle? |
| 17:42.39 | PoeticIntensity | yeah.... we use SAP here for like.... everything here |
| 17:42.53 | PoeticIntensity | and SAP is Oralce-only |
| 17:43.16 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:45.48 | PoeticIntensity | yo.... thebigdog or beandog how do I get my DHCP to not refresh my DNS info? |
| 17:46.15 | thebigdog | dont use dhcp |
| 17:46.16 | thebigdog | :) |
| 17:47.12 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... not that easy when you have a laptop. |
| 17:47.15 | dataw0lf | what do you mean by 'refresh your DNS info' ? |
| 17:47.21 | dataw0lf | you mean request a new address each time? |
| 17:47.24 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 17:47.31 | PoeticIntensity | I want the DNS info to stay the same. |
| 17:47.37 | xilch | can you set your router to do it? |
| 17:47.37 | PoeticIntensity | I know beandog has done it. |
| 17:47.53 | PoeticIntensity | yes... but this is a laptop... I Won't be using my router all the time. |
| 17:48.06 | PoeticIntensity | and I know the DNS servers I want to use.... I don't want em' changing. |
| 17:48.21 | xilch | oh - right |
| 17:48.24 | dataw0lf | give the DHCP server your MAC address |
| 17:48.33 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, it is part of your dhcp configuration |
| 17:48.45 | PoeticIntensity | ..... I know it can be done in /etc/conf.d/net |
| 17:49.13 | dataw0lf | it's called a reservation |
| 17:49.17 | dataw0lf | MAC |
| 17:49.18 | dataw0lf | address |
| 17:49.19 | dataw0lf | to |
| 17:49.20 | dataw0lf | IP |
| 17:49.53 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, dhcp_eth0 = "nodns" |
| 17:49.53 | beandog | eh |
| 17:49.53 | beandog | whot |
| 17:49.53 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: oh hold on |
| 17:49.58 | PoeticIntensity | gotcha... yup. |
| 17:50.00 | beandog | dhcp_eth0="nodns" |
| 17:50.02 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, guys. |
| 17:50.44 | dataw0lf | don't use static if you're using DHCP on your network |
| 17:50.50 | dataw0lf | make a reservation on the DHCP server |
| 17:50.54 | dataw0lf | and map your mac address to the ip |
| 17:51.51 | PoeticIntensity | dataw0lf, beandog and thebigdog were able to give me what I needed... that's the exact command I was looking for. Thanks, though. |
| 17:52.05 | dataw0lf | *shrug* You can do it wrong if you like. |
| 17:52.13 | PoeticIntensity | I *love* doing it wrong. |
| 17:52.16 | dataw0lf | when your network breaks mysteriously, I'll help you setup the reservation. |
| 17:52.17 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 17:52.21 | dataw0lf | Thus why you like Gentoo. |
| 17:52.25 | PoeticIntensity | bingo. |
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| 17:53.26 | SunSparc | Gentoo rulz |
| 17:55.59 | beandog | mmm, dhcp |
| 17:56.00 | beandog | ++ |
| 17:56.33 | beandog | pretty funky stuff you can do with a dhcp server |
| 18:02.46 | mgeary | anyone out there ever used zen-cart.com |
| 18:02.47 | SunSparc | http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=pe_6114790_txt_1/?ie=UTF8&node=337344011 |
| 18:08.09 | beandog | oh man |
| 18:08.10 | beandog | dont tempt me. |
| 18:08.29 | mgeary | ~buy beandog Mr. Potato Head Transformer Set |
| 18:08.29 | jbot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen Mr. Potato Head Transformer Sets for beandog |
| 18:13.03 | thebigdog | haha |
| 18:13.52 | PoeticIntensity | man... once I get this data transferred and a cron set up to sync the dbs, I won't have to touch Oracle much.... |
| 18:14.12 | thebigdog | oracle is a beast |
| 18:14.12 | PoeticIntensity | it's a beastly thing. |
| 18:14.15 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
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| 18:50.26 | timinator | back thebigdog... missed that pimpslap |
| 18:50.35 | thebigdog | ok about time |
| 18:50.51 | timinator | it takes a while to golf 9 holes |
| 18:50.54 | timinator | :) |
| 18:50.59 | thebigdog | im sure it does |
| 18:51.47 | timinator | ~lart thebigdog |
| 18:51.47 | jbot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that thebigdog is stuck to the floor |
| 18:52.02 | thebigdog | ~lart timinator |
| 18:52.02 | jbot | squishes timinator like a bug |
| 18:52.10 | thebigdog | fitting for the name |
| 18:52.28 | timinator | ~pimpslap thebigdog |
| 18:52.28 | jbot | timinator pimpslaps thebigdog. ouch! |
| 18:52.49 | thebigdog | ~whaleslap timinator |
| 18:52.49 | jbot | ACTION beats timinator upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:53.00 | thebigdog | welcome to seaworld timinator |
| 18:55.15 | timinator | LOL |
| 18:55.51 | dataw0lf | http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&sid=1538 |
| 19:05.53 | timinator | ~lart thebigdog |
| 19:05.53 | jbot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs thebigdog |
| 19:06.00 | timinator | LOL |
| 19:06.04 | timinator | take that!!!! |
| 19:16.57 | mindjuju | heya jsmith , a friend of mine was thinking about VOIP and i was going to pass that company here in Utah that you know |
| 19:17.00 | mindjuju | what was the name? |
| 19:17.12 | mindjuju | it's like alltel, but i know it isn't them |
| 19:17.31 | beandog | telall? |
| 19:17.31 | jsmith | ArrivalTel |
| 19:17.40 | beandog | ok, that was lame. |
| 19:17.40 | mindjuju | ah yes, that's it. thanks |
| 19:17.42 | jsmith | arrivaltel.com |
| 19:18.01 | mgeary | fwiw, veracity-- |
| 19:18.49 | thebigdog | beandog, is smoking the stuff again |
| 19:19.07 | thebigdog | beandog, mplayer sucks...it keeps core dumping on me |
| 19:19.07 | dataw0lf | /w/win 3 |
| 19:19.33 | thebigdog | oh he does |
| 19:19.55 | thebigdog | emerge beandog-bong |
| 19:20.20 | mindjuju | i've heard that you can put all kinds of stuff into the bong -- but they are worse than cigs |
| 19:20.39 | dataw0lf | probably not a good idea to put anything but marijuana into a bong |
| 19:20.42 | thebigdog | beandog, put like people in there |
| 19:21.32 | beandog | thebigdog: its not core dumping. it works. |
| 19:21.48 | thebigdog | beandog, what a piece of crap |
| 19:22.06 | mindjuju | are ya'll talking about mysql ? |
| 19:22.18 | mindjuju | you should have heard thebigdog bad mouth mysql last night |
| 19:22.49 | dataw0lf | aww, and I wasn't there to egg him on with non-sequiturs |
| 19:23.06 | jsmith | thebigdog: Bad mouthing MySQL again! Rock on! |
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| 19:23.31 | mindjuju | i don't know... i think last night he was getting ready to hit critical mass with mysql and go nuclear |
| 19:23.33 | jsmith | thebigdog: I just found out that the ol' MySQL system I used to administer has been officially deemed one of the 5 largest MySQL installs in the world... |
| 19:24.14 | mindjuju | that's cool -- just out of curiosity, how many records? |
| 19:24.32 | dataw0lf | jsmith: so, what you're saying is, you've reserved your place in Hell already. |
| 19:24.32 | thebigdog | jsmith, that is cool to an extent |
| 19:24.40 | beandog | mindjuju: did I miss it? |
| 19:24.42 | thebigdog | jsmith, meaning cool you did it and sucks that it is mysql |
| 19:24.56 | beandog | thebigdog: it says core dumped, its just talking about the video |
| 19:25.12 | beandog | hokie day? |
| 19:25.18 | thebigdog | jsmith, i was working on some security stuff last night with mysql and it just sucks working without any ref integrity in the db |
| 19:25.26 | thebigdog | beandog, k |
| 19:25.29 | beandog | thebigdog: switch over to innodb |
| 19:25.30 | mindjuju | @beandog -- yeah, he was going around saying where's beandog then he'd say -- i hate mysql |
| 19:25.32 | beandog | its a lifesaver. |
| 19:25.57 | thebigdog | beandog, i cant change the db in anyway that is my problem |
| 19:26.00 | beandog | :C |
| 19:26.00 | jsmith | mindjuju: Let's see... probably around 4000 servers or so doing MySQL work... and some of them had 3TB of storage... |
| 19:26.11 | beandog | now thats poopy. |
| 19:26.29 | jsmith | thebigdog: Amen... not having referential integrity is like driving without headlights |
| 19:26.31 | mindjuju | wow, that's amazing. 4000 servers doing mysql |
| 19:27.20 | thebigdog | just wait till me pgsql database starts rocking |
| 19:28.02 | thebigdog | beandog, thanks for tellin me that...after i did it like 3 times |
| 19:28.54 | mindjuju | 4k? that's got to take a heck of a team! |
| 19:28.57 | jsmith | mindjuju: We had around 6500 servers total when I left... and they're over 8000 now |
| 19:29.13 | mindjuju | how many padawans did you have running around? |
| 19:29.14 | jsmith | mindjuju: We ran it with a team of about 8 sysadmins |
| 19:29.33 | beandog | thebigdog: lols |
| 19:29.34 | jsmith | People with root access? About seven or eight |
| 19:36.58 | beandog | ~root jsmith |
| 19:36.59 | jbot | ACTION uses a keylogger to pwnz all jsmith 's boxen. |
| 19:37.27 | beandog | thebigdog: so you got it workink okay then |
| 19:37.57 | thebigdog | yeah i think it is working...i can tell till i get home and view them |
| 19:38.06 | jsmith | beandog: Uh, good luck with that |
| 19:38.16 | beandog | thebigdog: oh okay. |
| 19:38.25 | thebigdog | there around 2g files and that is what i expected |
| 19:38.30 | beandog | :) |
| 19:38.35 | beandog | what are you ripping? |
| 19:39.31 | wps | a rake? |
| 19:39.34 | thebigdog | nightmares & dreamscapes |
| 19:39.38 | wps | why isn't it a hoe? |
| 19:39.43 | beandog | seriously |
| 19:39.49 | beandog | ~beat jeopardy |
| 19:39.49 | jbot | ACTION beats jeopardy with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish |
| 19:40.14 | _psychic_ | that's a $200 joke |
| 19:40.21 | _psychic_ | you know he ownz when he can do that |
| 19:40.22 | mindjuju | a rake is a term that used to be popular, but i know i've never heard it -- just read it in older books |
| 19:40.56 | mindjuju | that's one funny scene |
| 19:41.07 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_JIg9NB47M |
| 19:41.09 | beandog | nice. |
| 19:41.28 | dataw0lf | a rake? as in a shifty sorta gentleman? |
| 19:41.55 | beandog | heh |
| 19:41.57 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: ^^ |
| 19:42.12 | beandog | wow, the a/v is only off by about 8 seconds. |
| 19:42.23 | mindjuju | love that song |
| 19:43.12 | beandog | heh, that is way off |
| 19:43.13 | beandog | that's great. |
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| 19:47.20 | SunSparc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6JB3riPJu8 |
| 19:47.44 | beandog | wtc |
| 19:58.01 | dataw0lf | http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007320865,00.html |
| 19:58.05 | dataw0lf | possibly NWS |
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| 21:27.40 | thebigdog | that guy is always out to lunch |
| 21:27.50 | jsmith-away | Lunch? |
| 21:27.55 | thebigdog | haha |
| 21:27.58 | jsmith-away | No... this time I'm building a server :-) |
| 21:28.10 | jsmith-away | But it's at my new house, which doesn't have internet yet |
| 21:40.50 | thebigdog | oh grand |
| 21:41.08 | thebigdog | here i am working hard and you are having fun |
| 21:44.08 | beandog | ~fun |
| 21:44.08 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, fun is what I'm not |
| 21:53.45 | beandog | http://linbsd.net/~solar/fail.jpg |
| 21:56.10 | orsonj | no, you can't have a pony |
| 21:59.12 | beandog | :) |
| 22:03.46 | beandog | cant be that hard. |
| 22:03.54 | beandog | I bought a unicorn. |
| 22:04.02 | mgeary | Charlie? |
| 22:04.09 | mgeary | oh, no, he got eaten |
| 22:04.18 | beandog | Charlie? |
| 22:04.48 | mgeary | charlie the unicorn. you haven't seen it? |
| 22:05.00 | mgeary | oh, you've never been annoyed until you've seen Charlie the Unicorn |
| 22:05.18 | mgeary | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7vrjwwOCxc |
| 22:05.20 | mgeary | charleeeeee |
| 22:06.12 | beandog | oh yah |
| 22:06.13 | beandog | this is great |
| 22:06.17 | beandog | he doesnt get eaten though |
| 22:06.40 | mgeary | oh yeah |
| 22:06.42 | mgeary | forgot |
| 22:07.34 | beandog | 10 million views |
| 22:07.35 | beandog | thats crazy. |
| 22:08.01 | beandog | its a land of sweets, and joy, and joyness |
| 22:08.28 | beandog | shun the non-believer! |
| 22:09.11 | beandog | oh man this is great. |
| 22:11.59 | beandog | http://www.cafepress.com/filmcow/1457783 |
| 22:12.01 | beandog | thats even better |
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| 22:37.02 | mgeary | top THAT, mindjuju |
| 22:38.40 | timinator | last 20 minutes dawgs! |
| 22:47.41 | timinator | HEY GUYS!!! |
| 22:47.57 | timinator | AS OF 2 MINUTES AGO... I BECAME A HOME OWNER |
| 22:48.00 | timinator | WOOOOHOOOOOOO |
| 22:48.14 | timinator | I feel so good, I could lart someone |
| 22:48.16 | timinator | ~lart |
| 22:48.20 | mgeary | ~congratulate timinator |
| 22:48.21 | jbot | ACTION congratulates timinator on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 22:48.23 | mgeary | :D |
| 22:48.26 | timinator | ~lart thebigdog |
| 22:48.26 | jbot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that thebigdog is stuck to the floor |
| 22:48.32 | thebigdog | ty |
| 22:48.35 | timinator | LOL mgeary |
| 22:48.45 | timinator | yw |
| 22:48.58 | mgeary | so, didja get an earthquake insurance policy? |
| 22:49.09 | timinator | no |
| 22:49.17 | timinator | but I did have to get flood insurance |
| 22:49.32 | timinator | my sidewalk is in the tip of a flood zone |
| 22:49.35 | timinator | :) |
| 22:49.42 | timinator | that stuff is pricey!!! |
| 22:49.47 | mgeary | eq isn't too bad |
| 22:50.18 | timinator | I guess I should look into it... we *are* on a fault, right? |
| 22:50.33 | mgeary | that's what they tell me |
| 22:50.53 | _psychic_ | you can see it if you get close to the mountains |
| 22:51.07 | timinator | oh really?!?! |
| 22:51.15 | _psychic_ | yeah it stretches the fences in places |
| 22:51.28 | timinator | huh |
| 22:51.40 | timinator | where are you at _psychic_? |
| 22:52.06 | timinator | is it worse south of Ogden? |
| 22:52.45 | dataw0lf | uhm, the fault is gigantic |
| 22:52.51 | beandog | I want a home. :C |
| 22:53.03 | beandog | just not a 250k loan. |
| 22:53.06 | dataw0lf | you know that steep hill on like 21st? |
| 22:53.08 | dataw0lf | that's part of it |
| 22:53.10 | _psychic_ | timinator: Orem |
| 22:53.32 | timinator | huh |
| 22:53.50 | timinator | I'll have to research it |
| 22:53.52 | _psychic_ | timinator: http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/projects/geoweb/participants/dutch/VTrips/WasatchFault3.HTM |
| 22:54.00 | timinator | anyone been through a EQ in Utah? |
| 22:55.10 | mgeary | not i |
| 22:55.35 | mgeary | heh, and here i am: |
| 22:55.40 | mgeary | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=coventry+ln,+provo,+ut&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.822921,58.798828&ie=UTF8&ll=40.28373,-111.63568&spn=0.043345,0.057421&t=k&z=14&om=1 |
| 22:55.55 | mgeary | 'bout 2 miles north of _psychic_'s link |
| 22:56.06 | dataw0lf | no, but they're predicting there's going to be a big one in the next 100 years |
| 22:56.33 | timinator | thanks for the link _psychic_ |
| 22:56.37 | dataw0lf | http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/02/06/oly.earthquake/index.html |
| 22:56.39 | timinator | thanks for the info DW |
| 22:56.39 | beandog | I guess if youre dead by then noones going to dispute you. |
| 22:57.26 | dataw0lf | beandog: there's been a magnitude 7.5+ earthquake every 300 years in Salt Lake City for the past 4000 years |
| 22:57.29 | dataw0lf | the last one |
| 22:57.32 | dataw0lf | was 150 years ago |
| 22:57.55 | dataw0lf | beandog: and since then, you've built A LOT of buildings on that fault |
| 22:58.00 | dataw0lf | guess what's underneath Salt Lake? |
| 22:58.02 | timinator | Experts said a magnitude 7.5 quake could kill up to 7,600 people, injure 44,000 others and cause about $12 billion in damages. |
| 22:58.04 | dataw0lf | clay and lake sediment |
| 22:58.07 | SunSparc | Anyone here ever seen this error: curl_error(): 51 is not a valid cURL handle resource |
| 22:58.13 | dataw0lf | so you're going to get liquefacation |
| 22:58.26 | dataw0lf | it won't be good |
| 22:59.17 | mgeary | yeah, the interesting thing about that-- |
| 22:59.34 | mgeary | is that it's very possible that the valleys will be worse off than the foothills because of the liquefaction |
| 23:00.13 | _psychic_ | Just hope you're on the right side of the fault in SLC (the same side as the hospital) |
| 23:01.11 | timinator | LOL |
| 23:13.39 | dataw0lf | http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070716/REPOSITORY/707160351/1013/NEWS03 |
| 23:13.42 | dataw0lf | dur |
| 23:15.54 | timinator | I'm out guys.. later |
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