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00:11.54herlomindjuju: ping
00:12.06mindjujupong
00:12.15herlomindjuju: email address?
00:12.25mindjujui'll PM it
00:12.29herlo:)
00:12.46mindjujusent
00:12.58mindjujubrb, i'm going to go nuke some fish sticks
00:13.17herlotx
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04:53.56Utah_Daveanybody want a pownce invite?
04:54.14Utah_Dave~rlart
04:54.22jbotteaches Utah_Dave the basics, including how to RTM
04:54.34Utah_Davecrap
04:54.41Utah_Dave~lart mindjuju
04:54.41jbotchops mindjuju in half with a free AOL CD
04:54.45Utah_Dave~lart herlo
04:54.45jbotjudo chops herlo
05:02.55burninits getting a bit dangerous in here
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05:57.59herloUtah_Dave: come back and fight
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15:57.47mgearywoof
16:05.27thebigdogoh yeah
16:07.22PoeticIntensityyo, thebigdog...
16:07.26thebigdogy
16:07.26PoeticIntensitydo you run gentoo on a laptop?
16:07.32thebigdogi do
16:07.43PoeticIntensitydo you have it hibernate / standby / etc.... successfully?
16:07.49PoeticIntensitywhen ya close the lid... etc...?
16:08.02thebigdogno i dont have it doing that
16:08.16PoeticIntensityI'm gonna spend some time today trying to get mine to do that.
16:08.40PoeticIntensityjust wanted to see if I could be pointed to a good article on acpid or any other tool...
16:08.58thebigdogthere is a good gentoo powermanage article
16:09.04thebigdoghttp://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml
16:09.05PoeticIntensityyeah.. I saw that yesterday...
16:09.08PoeticIntensitythanks, man.
16:09.31thebigdoghttp://www.linux.com/articles/54610
16:09.43thebigdogthose are the 2 that i have read in the past
16:10.24PoeticIntensityLOL
16:10.32PoeticIntensityhow was your weekend, mgeary ?
16:10.39mgearygreat. very welcome
16:10.43mgearybut hot
16:10.53mgearyour yard is looking good, though
16:13.15PoeticIntensitysweet!
16:17.52mgearyhow 'bout that fire down by Beaver?
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16:25.10Utah_Davemorning
16:28.31thebigdogmorning
16:29.55thebigdogok writing email notifications suck
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16:31.26thebigdogfungus you around?
16:32.28fungusbarely
16:33.14thebigdogyou know what version clamav and spamassassin are on freebsd?
16:33.25thebigdoglike the stable default one
16:34.09fungus/usr/ports/security/clamav is currently at 0.90-3
16:34.47fungus/usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin is currently at 3.1.8-1
16:36.57Utah_Davehey, does anyone want a pownce.com invite? I don't think I'm going to use them
16:37.46mgeary~wiki pownce.com
16:37.59mgearyniice
16:38.11thebigdogfungus, ty for the info
16:38.32fungusnp
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16:39.55mgeary~diff pownce.com AIM
16:39.56jbotACTION carefully examines pownce.com and AIM.... "they're dead, Jim"
16:44.32thebigdogi love html email messages
16:50.19dataw0lfoh boy
16:50.24dataw0lfhttp://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20070709105012263C912426
16:50.37dataw0lfwonder what Tom Cruise has to say about THAT
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16:52.57dataw0lfget in line
16:54.00mgearyso, dataw0lf, what's the latest from whats-her-name? You know you're now competing with herlo for "most romantic nerd in the group"
16:54.49dataw0lfI've always been "most likely to blackout and participate in wild orgy"
16:55.02mgeary~airsupply dataw0lf
16:55.03jbotACTION takes dataw0lf by the hand, hunkers down on one knee, gazes fondly into dataw0lf's eyes, and croons, "'cause you're every woman in the world to meeeee...."
16:55.03dataw0lfI dunno about this romantic thingamajig though
16:55.10dataw0lfJenna is still in Costa Rica
16:55.23dataw0lfif that's what yer axin
16:55.28mgearyjup
16:55.44dataw0lfherlo got a girl?
16:55.49dataw0lf~congrat herlo
16:56.06dataw0lf~congrats herlo
16:56.33mgeary~congratulate herlo
16:56.34jbotACTION congratulates herlo on being a new owner of a $500 brick.
16:57.16dataw0lfso does everyone love Transformers as much as I do?
16:57.24dataw0lfor do they love it MORE
16:57.59mgearyhaven't seen it yet
16:58.29dataw0lfit's pretty awesome
16:58.53mgearyi believe beandog was raving about it on Friday
16:59.09dataw0lfhey what's the PHP framework where you can inherit templates
16:59.15thebigdogi wanted to go this weekend
16:59.46dataw0lfYOU DIDN'T GO SEE IT?!
17:00.05thebigdognope...too much crap going on...i want to see it this week
17:00.34thebigdogmovies and wives dont mix
17:01.03dataw0lfone of the many reasons why I shall not get married
17:01.13dataw0lfoooh, The Lake House was... purty good.
17:01.25thebigdogmgeary, i think we have seen that one
17:01.41dataw0lfya ya so I like SOME romantic movies
17:01.42thebigdogthat stuff is all a blur
17:01.52thebigdogbut we did watch shooter last night
17:02.07dataw0lfI tried to watch Shooter Saturday, but I passed out
17:02.17thebigdogit was ok
17:02.25thebigdogreminded me of the bourne movies a little
17:02.31thebigdogjust not as good
17:02.41thebigdognew bourne movie looks pretty decent
17:03.10dataw0lfya
17:04.34dataw0lfooh, I think Google Calendar is using Django
17:04.52dataw0lfhuh, my birthday is this saturday
17:04.57dataw0lfI forgot
17:13.56Utah_DaveHow do you know Google Calendar is using  Django?
17:15.54dataw0lfbecause of the way they are rewriting URLs and passing Ajax
17:20.44PoeticIntensityI passed gas once...
17:20.52PoeticIntensityor... maybe twice.
17:20.55PoeticIntensityforgot.
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17:22.18fungusI saw Transformers last night!  was totally awesome.  The voice actor for Optimus Prime was just about a perfect match.
17:22.19PoeticIntensitygah.... I give up on this suspsend-to-ram / disk crud in Linux.
17:22.34PoeticIntensitypossible?  yes.
17:22.43PoeticIntensitybut oh, the configuration.
17:22.49PoeticIntensitysometime.
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17:32.44dataw0lffungus: um, the voice actor for Optimus Prime was the same guy who did the series
17:33.12dataw0lfPeter Cullen or whatever
17:33.15fungusCool, I just about creamed my pants when I first heard it
17:33.41dataw0lfMy jaw was hanging on the floor the whole movie
17:33.57dataw0lfthere's still some twizzlers stuck to my lower lip from the movie theater floor
17:34.49dataw0lfyea, I prefer "I about busted a ***"
17:35.55funguswhy is "nut" a bad word?
17:36.37thebigdognot a bad word, dataw0lf just dont like typing
17:37.06dataw0lfwell, I think that the combination of busted and nut, usually are considered impolite discourse
17:41.03herlodataw0lf: not happening, she gave me a bogus phone #
17:41.11mgearyawwwwwwwwwww
17:41.25dataw0lfherlo: aw man
17:41.26mgeary~console herlo
17:41.27jbotACTION gives herlo the consolation moose
17:41.58thebigdogpeople like that suck
17:42.29herlodataw0lf: no worries...
17:42.42dataw0lfit happens
17:42.44herlomgeary: thx, not that big a deal
17:42.54herlodataw0lf: I don't think I've ever had that happen before...
17:43.51dataw0lfwell, sure, it doesn't happen to ME, but I've seen it in movies and stuff.
17:46.17herlodataw0lf: there's a first time for everything.  Wait until you are in your mid 30s and then we'll talk...
17:48.28Utah_Daveherlo: does mindjuju know about that?
17:48.44mgearyUtah_Dave: i'm not sure we should tell him. he'll be heartbroken
17:48.56thebigdoghaha
17:48.56Utah_Davehe's going to be ticked. He felt very manly about helping you get that number!
17:49.32dataw0lfherlo: I'm almost 25!
17:49.58mgeary~buy dataw0lf boxes of huggie
17:49.59jbotACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen boxes of huggies for dataw0lf
17:51.46mgeary~buy mgeary_and_thebigdog boxes of depend
17:51.46jbotACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen boxes of depends for mgeary_and_thebigdog
17:52.03thebigdogty
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17:56.00mgeary~curse Colloquy's lame transcript archiver
17:56.04jbotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Colloquy's lame transcript archiver !
18:03.38dataw0lfsweet
18:03.48dataw0lfthis should help me from having to leave the bar to go to the restroom
18:03.56dataw0lfIT'S THE GREATEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER, MGEARY!
18:07.39bradymwow, this file has 20+ lines of copyright and 2 lines of code
18:10.16thebigdogoh the joys of opensource
18:13.49herloUtah_Dave: I don't know if mindjuju knows
18:14.18thebigdogmindjuju does not read much
18:14.25mindjujuread what?
18:17.34mindjujubrb
18:17.41herlohttp://hci-matters.com/blog/?p=8
18:17.43herlothis is a great article about why the keyboard is better than the mouse
18:18.07mgearyummm, because you can hit ~100 items within a split second of each other?
18:19.19herlomgeary: true, but it actually compares why we use the mouse and how we can improve our usage of the keyboard and why the mouse is less and less useful.
18:20.52mgearyFTA: "I challenge you to find a hundredth as many IT professionals who prefer the mouse as who prefer the keyboard when either will perform a given action." -- sounds like Windows SysAdmins to me
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18:23.34thebigdogall my servers have only the keyboard
18:23.40thebigdogthere is no need for a mouse
18:24.12jsmithWe don't need no stinkin' mice...
18:24.23thebigdog^5 jsmith
18:24.39jsmithOuch... don't make me stretch... (had my appendix out the other day)
18:24.39thebigdogand i hate keyboards that have all the extra crap
18:24.58thebigdog_5 jsmith
18:25.38burninwhy would a server need a keyboard? ssh works fine. ;)
18:26.56herloburnin: uh, you gotta set it up originally.  plus when you ssh your keyboard essentially *acts* as a keyboard.  DUH!
18:27.02jsmithdataw0lf: In my case, to press F12 during startup for PXE booting :-(
18:27.44burninthebigdog, who ever came up with the idea for that lame "windows" key should be severely flogged. Everytime I'm on a Windows box typing away and bump that stupid key and send the OS into a major epleptic spasm I remember why I don't use windows.
18:28.08thebigdogi hate it...i have to use it here at work though
18:28.11thebigdogand wow
18:28.29thebigdoghaah
18:28.29dataw0lfyou gotta have a KVM switch plus builtin LCD on a server rack
18:28.41dataw0lfI've had to connect physically to the terminal on many a server
18:31.22thebigdoghaha the namespace emails on php dev are kinda funny
18:32.28fungusI want one of these... http://www.perle.com/products/IOLAN-STS-Terminal-Server.shtml
18:58.12mindjujuwell, Al Sharpton is pro linux ... who'd have thunk it?  http://www.sillylug.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=33
19:01.49mgearywell, mindjuju
19:02.06mgearywhaddya think, folks, do we break it to mindjuju gently?
19:03.18mindjujuyeah break gently
19:03.45mgearymindjuju: you're going to have to take herlo out to lunch again. preferably to a different place this time
19:04.02mindjujuwhy what happened?
19:04.11mgearyshe spoofed him
19:04.17mindjujuoh no!
19:04.26mgearyoh yes
19:04.36mindjujuwhat did the phone number lead to?
19:04.45mgearygood question. herlo?
19:06.31jsmithherlo: Do tell!
19:11.43mindjujuwow, creepy -- http://images.pcworld.com/opinion/graphics/134186-09_oprahMaze.jpg
19:12.17mgearyand in other news, Oprah reportedly gave everyone in the state of Arizona a NEW CAR today
19:16.19mindjujuwell, herlo, i'm going back to that resturant on Wednesday night with the fam, i'll tell you what happens
19:16.46mindjujui wonder if it was a wrong number or a handwriting malfunction?
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19:20.01herlomindjuju: the phone number was some guys vm
19:20.23herloI thought about leaving a message anyway because it could be a friend or something, but haven't decided yet
19:20.35mindjujuhmm
19:21.38mindjujunot sure which way i would go... if i were less than partially interested, i'd write it off as a fun stunt, but meh
19:22.05mindjujuif i were interested, i'd prolly go back once and see if you can catch her again
19:23.30burninare any of you running your own small business? I'm curious about which business structure you chose and why.
19:23.33mindjujubut i wouldn't go back more than once, cause then your desperate
19:24.21mindjujui wonder what advice dataw0lf - uphpu big daddy mac -- might offer
19:24.21mgearyburnin: we've got an S-Corp, but i've also got good things to say about LLCs
19:25.46burninmgeary, those are the two structures I was considering, are they both better for taxes than a straight corp but with the same protection from liability?
19:26.23burninthe last thing I want is to have some nut job come after my house via my small business.
19:26.30mgearyburnin: i'm not sure how in-depth i can (knowledgeably) talk about them. but yeah, that's the theory.
19:27.02burninmgeary, k, I was reading up on sba.gov, but the details are pretty slim there as well. maybe I just need to read a bit further.
19:27.03mgearyburnin: one other important thing would be to get a good E&O insurance policy
19:27.14mgeary*errors and omissions
19:27.16burninmgeary, did you consult any lawyers or accountants, or did you decide yourself?
19:27.45mgearywe've got an accountant that we consulted with
19:27.50burninthe sba suggests using lots of consultants, but I imagine that can start to get expensive.
19:27.52mgearyhe also handles our taxes every year
19:28.23herlomindjuju: yeah, thought about going back.  Might do it anyway just to catch her unawares....
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19:29.21burninwell, back to work, thanks for the quick tips mgeary
19:29.37mgearysure
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19:31.58herlomindjuju: not that desperate that way...
19:36.39mindjujuit was fun though, tell ya what
19:36.50herlomindjuju: :)
19:36.52mindjujureminds me of college days
19:37.05herlomindjuju: I'll do it again.  this time I'll be less embarrassed
19:37.35dataw0lfyou know what a good cure for embarrassment is
19:37.43dataw0lfany sort of shame, really
19:37.54dataw0lfthus why I'm shameless
19:45.02mindjujusounds like a country song
19:45.36mindjujuThere's a tear in my beer
19:45.36mindjuju'cause I'm cryin' for you,dear
19:45.36mindjujuyou are on my lonely mind.
19:45.36mindjujuInto these last nine beers
19:45.36mindjujuI have shed a million tears.
19:46.23herlodataw0lf: thanx
19:48.40herloBlame it all on my roots
19:48.41herloI showed up in boots
19:48.41herloAnd ruined your black tie affair
19:48.41herloThe last one to know
19:48.43herloThe last one to show
19:48.45herloI was the last one
19:48.48herloYou thought you'd see there
19:48.50herloAnd I saw the surprise
19:48.53herloAnd the fear in his eyes
19:48.55herloWhen I took his glass of champagne
19:48.58herloAnd I toasted you
19:48.59mindjujuhey, i got that album
19:49.00herloSaid, honey, we may be through
19:49.03herloBut you'll never hear me complain
19:49.06herlomindjuju: great album
19:49.11mindjujuyeah, good times
19:49.28mindjujui love that one about the trucker's wife
19:49.31herlomindjuju: too bad he's retired
19:49.38herlomindjuju: papa loved mama
19:49.47herlonearly all his life
19:49.48mindjujuand how the father comes home finds the kids alone, and he goes out to the local motel
19:49.49mindjujuyup
19:50.00herlomama was a looker, lord how she shined
19:50.12mindjujumy favorite part, is when he rams the motel ... "he never hit the breaks, and was shifting gears..."
19:50.15herlopapa was the jealous kind
19:50.26herlomindjuju: yeah, I saw him in concert 3 times
19:50.32herloalways awesome!
19:50.50mindjujuyeah, saw one of his concerts on tape, it was a heck of a show, live must have been incredible
19:56.37mindjujuanybody here worked with or done anything with opendns?
19:56.42mindjujucomments pro or con?
19:58.22herloyes
19:58.45mindjujuwhich pro or con?
19:58.59mindjujuseems like fungus mentioned them once, but can't remember what he said
20:01.07jsmithmindjuju: I've used the service, and have been happy with it
20:02.43herlomindjuju: pro and con
20:02.45mindjujuk, well they just hit the NYT and my boss brought it in this morning asking me what it is and should we use it
20:02.53herloI like the simplicity, but osmetimes it gets in the way
20:02.57herloor lies
20:03.20mindjujuso for us who colo out of xmission and use a mix of xmission dns and network solutions dns
20:03.22jsmithAs I understand it, it lies on purpose (to protect you from yourself)
20:03.29mindjujuthere is prolly not much benefit
20:03.45jsmithProbably not, unless you have a lot of users typing .cm instead of .com, etc.
20:03.48herlomindjuju: I don't know...
20:03.52mindjujuyeah
20:04.11mindjujuor, like at home, i could put this as the dns server and get all the benefits that way
20:04.27mindjujuof blocking sites, etc...
20:04.31mindjujufaster queries
20:04.35mindjujusupposedly
20:07.08jsmithExactly
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20:32.13dataw0lfgawrsh
20:32.20dataw0lfI JUST WANT A BROWSER SUPPORTED MIN HEIGHT
20:32.29dataw0lfIS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?
20:35.26mgearyapparently so, unfortunately
20:38.41mgearyhey, any of you Mac folk know how to get the forward-delete key working in Terminal? I usually use Ctrl-D, but it'd be nice to be able to use the proper key for it....
20:43.07orsonjon a side note, I'm glad mac did away with the numlock key. Pointless on normal keyboards.
20:43.39dataw0lfI wonder if there's a guy named Mac who works for Apple
20:43.46dataw0lfhey macnewbold, you need to get hired at Apple
20:47.31macnewbolddataw0lf: not a bad idea... I kind of saw myself more as a Google guy, but Apple isn't far down the list either
20:57.58PoeticIntensityokay, all you sql people...
20:58.04PoeticIntensitywhat in the world is wrong with this sql syntax?
20:58.05PoeticIntensity:
20:58.34mindjujufor a second, i thought that was something a DJ might say
20:58.37PoeticIntensitySELECT MATNR33,MTEAKTX FROM NAPT LIMIT 10
20:58.52mindjujuall you sql people in the house, yeah, only the sql people, raise the roof!
20:58.57PoeticIntensitynot too hard.... but evidently, Oracle doesn't like that query.
20:59.07PoeticIntensitymindjuju, :)
20:59.22PoeticIntensityall tables exist... I'm correctly connecting to the db... etc...
20:59.35PoeticIntensityif I do it without the "LIMIT 10" on there, it works perfectly.
20:59.36mgearywhat happens if you do "select * from..." ?
20:59.38mgearyaah
20:59.42mgearyLIMIT 0,10
20:59.50PoeticIntensityah... it requires the offset, eh'?
20:59.51PoeticIntensitybrb
20:59.59bradymhttp://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=602163&messageID=3234560
21:00.19PoeticIntensitydarn...
21:00.20bradymlooks like LIMIT isn't implemented in oracle
21:00.22PoeticIntensityI thought you were right.
21:00.32PoeticIntensityholy cow, bradym, are you serious?
21:00.39PoeticIntensitythat can't be true..
21:00.55dataw0lfyou can use rownum
21:01.02PoeticIntensityright...
21:01.06PoeticIntensitywow.
21:01.13PoeticIntensitythanks for the link bradym.
21:01.19mgeary~boggle lack of LIMIT in Oracle
21:01.20jbotACTION stares in flabbergasted astonishment at lack of LIMIT in Oracle
21:01.20bradymnp - here's a better one: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259747
21:01.43PoeticIntensitynow I know why normal SQL people hate Oracle...
21:01.51PoeticIntensityand why Oracle devs get paid like $300.00 / hr.
21:03.33dataw0lfprobably shouldn't, you'll eventually have to use it
21:04.04PoeticIntensityI'm using it now.
21:04.19PoeticIntensitymy place of employment uses it as the primary db.
21:04.24PoeticIntensityand I'm building web applications on top of it.
21:04.39PoeticIntensityI'm seriously considering just dumping into PGSQL and using that for the app.
21:04.47PoeticIntensity*sigh*
21:07.01mindjujuwouldn't you get a performance penalty for doing that?
21:11.19cole_joplinsql is sql, Oracle or not
21:11.41mindjujucurious, it was my understanding that all things being equal, Oracle outperforms everybody
21:12.27dataw0lfscalability wise, sure
21:12.33cole_joplinthey scale very nicely
21:12.34dataw0lfSQL conformance, pretty good
21:31.11PoeticIntensityuhhh....
21:31.20PoeticIntensityIf we're comparing apples to apples....
21:31.28PoeticIntensityit *completely* depends on the configuration of said db.
21:32.00PoeticIntensityI'm guessing (by the execution time of my scripts) that our Oracle db is *not* tuned for performance....
21:32.39PoeticIntensityso far, PG and MySQL outperform Oracle by miles (most likely due to configuration).
21:32.47PoeticIntensityin this specific instance.
21:33.02PoeticIntensityalso.... our Oracle db houses about 500GB of data.
21:33.09PoeticIntensitythe data I need is probably less than 5M.
21:33.22mindjujuyeah, there was an article i read like a year ago when mysql 5 came out, that had it pretty fair, and all things being equal it was like
21:33.42PoeticIntensityso.... I seriously doubt I'd take a performance hit if I dumped into PG and ran the app from that.
21:33.53PoeticIntensityrealtime data also isn't important - so... no hit there, either.
21:33.57mindjujuOracle, then DB2 and mysql I think tied 2nd (something like that), then everything else
21:34.05mindjujui'll have to see if i can find the article
21:35.05herlomindjuju: what about pgsql
21:35.07herlo??
21:35.23mindjujui don't remember pgsql being on the list, i think that's why thebigdog had issues with the stats
21:35.37mindjujuif i recall, this might have been actually longer than a year ago, now that i think about it
21:35.44mindjujubut it was right at the time mysql 5 came out
21:36.13herlomindjuju: pgsql is rock solid
21:36.21mindjujucause i remember that they were saying that they offered better performance than ms sql
21:36.25herlomindjuju: I'd suggest talking with macnewbold about it if no one else
21:36.27dataw0lfmysql 5 came out two years ago, didn't?
21:36.42mindjujuyeah, thebigdog is always talking goood about pgsql
21:36.49mindjujuand it wasn't my set of benchmarks
21:36.54mindjujui think it may have been zdnet
21:37.03herlodataw0lf: good question, probably
21:37.05herloabout then
21:37.06mindjujuseems like the article was titled, Clash of the Titans, or something
21:37.39dataw0lfI could swear it was released in 2005, but I can't remember the exact month
21:48.40Utah_Davemy wife just screwed up a Star Wars quote
21:48.54mindjujuwhich one
21:49.01Utah_Dave"There is only attempt, do, or do not!!!"
21:49.45dataw0lfhaha
21:49.55Utah_Daveshe realized she screwed up right away and we had a good laugh
21:52.37dataw0lfyou guys hear about the possible iPhone Nano?
21:53.13mindjujuhaven't
21:53.24mindjujui've ehard they hacked the iphone to a command shell
21:53.26dataw0lfhttp://tinyurl.com/3bm2lv
21:54.25dataw0lfthere's already a couple exploits for iphone's version of safari
21:54.31dataw0lfI can't wait to wardrive an iphone
21:54.38dataw0lfin a controlled environment of course
21:55.15dataw0lfhttp://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
21:55.41brastomindjuju, is swb around?
21:57.12brastosynic, mindjuju mentioned you have experience with seo?
21:57.29brastoseo == search engine optimization...
21:57.43synicbrasto: no, optikal is the guy you want
21:57.47synicbrasto: or gibba[w]
21:58.08gibba[w]wudup
21:58.39gibba[w]brasto: you need some help?
22:15.53cole_joplinI'm good at seo as well
22:17.39herlocole_joplin: type "Open source Conference" and go to the second page.  You'll see Utah Open Source Conference.  that's how good I am at SEO
22:19.15mgearyheh
22:19.40mgeary"Open source Conference utah" -- you're the 2nd hit, herlo. you gotta go beat up joseph hall
22:19.49dataw0lfisn't it jason hall?
22:20.03mgearyapparently not
22:20.32herlomgeary: Joseph Hall is the cooking guy on UTOSP.  He posts stuff about hte conference all the time.  all of his links are belong to us
22:20.51mgearywell, a noogie at least, then
22:21.29herlomgeary: yeah, he works at GL.  he's gotten his fair share of those...
22:21.49mgearyheh
22:26.29dataw0lfwelp
22:26.33dataw0lfI just got served duty papers
22:26.56mgearycool
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22:28.13mgearyi've never done jury duty. assuming it didn't mess up work too badly, i'd like to sometime
22:28.20dataw0lfno
22:28.23dataw0lfarmy duty papers
22:28.26dataw0lfI'm still IRR
22:28.28mgearyaahh
22:28.35mgearyIRR?
22:28.55dataw0lfinactive ready reserve
22:29.09dataw0lfafter you serve active duty, you have to serve IRR for the same amount of time
22:29.29mgearyso, you've been (unexpectedly) activated?
22:29.37dataw0lflooks like it
22:29.51mgearyoje
22:29.53dataw0lfI haven't seen the papers, I just got the phone call from the parental units, it arrived at their house
22:30.31mgearyso, would there be a duration for this new tour/whatever?
22:30.53dataw0lfwell they only got me on IRR for a year
22:31.03dataw0lfafter that I can sue for breach of contract
22:31.13mgearyah
22:31.45mgearyat which point they transfer you to guantanamo. or was it that secret prison in Turkey...?
22:31.45Utah_Davedang, dataw0lf. I didn't know they were hitting up the IRR
22:32.27Utah_Davethey got several hundred guard guys here in Utah ready over the next several months
22:32.35dataw0lfneither did I
22:32.35Utah_Daveplus an artillery unit that just left
22:35.04brastogibba[w] - I have this request from someone looking for an seo: how much experience do you have getting keywords that bid at 4-5 dollars a piece to show up on Google, above the fold, on page one.
22:35.59brasto~seen gibba[w]
22:36.21jbotgibba[w] <i=gibs@209-253-35-21.ip.mcleodusa.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 37m 42s ago, saying: 'brasto: you need some help?'.
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22:55.54dataw0lfwelcome back, you buncha netsplitting losers
22:56.08cole_joplinyou get a date, and all of a sudden we're all losers
22:56.08cole_joplinthanks
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22:56.38dataw0lfaww, sorry cole_joplin
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23:09.16mindjujudataw0lf, when do you go in?
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23:16.07herlomindjuju: where should I go tonight for dinner?
23:16.40mindjujuhmmm... shopping, well, what kind of girl you looking for?
23:16.48beandogoh yah, howd the big date go
23:17.03mgeary~inform beandog
23:17.26mindjujubeandog, heather the waitress spoofed her phone num
23:17.31beandogbuh
23:18.52beandogso, no weekend lovin?
23:18.58herlobeandog: nope
23:19.03beandogpoops.
23:19.06herlomindjuju: just dinner
23:19.12herlohaha though, I did laugh
23:19.30beandogits okay to cry, herlo
23:19.37beandogI do it all the time.
23:19.42beandogon the inside.
23:19.43mindjujuheh
23:19.52herlobeandog: I know
23:19.58mindjujuPF Chang is good
23:20.00herloI've heard you...
23:20.03beandogherlo: that sucks man, you gonna show up at the restaurant and demand retribution?
23:20.05herlomindjuju: they have one of those in Utah
23:20.13herlobeandog: considering it...
23:20.42mindjujuthat sushi bar we went to the other day was good
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23:20.56herlomindjuju: I am in Houston
23:21.02timinatorlater guys.....
23:21.03mindjujuoooooooooooooooo
23:21.06herlomindjuju: remember?
23:21.15mindjujuthe fatherland!
23:21.25mindjujuor is the motherland?
23:21.31mindjujuanyways, make your way to Chuy's
23:21.38mindjujufor tex-mex
23:21.49mindjujupapadeux for crazy good cajun
23:21.51herlomindjuju: weren't you hearing me complain about this dumpy hotel I got stuck with?  I complained enough now though it looks like I'll get moved
23:22.01mindjujuwhat hotel?
23:22.13mindjujuwhere you at in Houston?
23:22.44herlomindjuju: the 10 and the 610 about one mile east
23:23.09mindjujuyup, i know where that is
23:23.12herloright next to a train track that goes all night long, kinda like I was hoping with Heather the waitress :)
23:23.28mindjujuheh
23:23.35herloand chuckles
23:23.41herloand weeps just a tiny bit
23:24.09mindjujuhey, if your even looking for fun, i think you'll like chuy's
23:24.23herloI am considering the cajun for sure
23:24.23mindjujuloud, good eats, tons of fun
23:24.45mindjujuin fact, the Chuy's in Austin is where the bush daughters got busted for underage drinking
23:24.47beandogchuy's?
23:24.50beandogthat sounds familiar / fun.
23:24.56mindjujuso, there be some hawties there
23:25.03mindjujunot that the bush girls are hot
23:25.04herlomindjuju: cool...
23:25.07mindjujubut that's where the girls go
23:26.18mindjujuhere is info
23:26.19mindjujuhttp://www.chuys.com/location.html
23:26.28mindjujuthe site used to be a lot cooler
23:27.30mindjujui've heard the margaritas are the best at Chuy's, but i've personally never had one, so i wouldn't know for sure
23:28.51mindjujuhey, herlo, there is one thing you should know about resturants
23:29.03mindjujuthere is a whole chain of resturants with the prefix, pappa
23:29.15mindjujupappadeaux is one of them
23:29.42mindjujuthat's cajun, then there is pappasitos - mexican, pappamia - italian and pappas - american (if i recall)
23:29.45mindjujuall very good
23:29.53mindjujuhere is the website for pappadeaux  http://www.pappadeaux.com/
23:30.21herlok
23:30.33herlocool
23:31.29mindjujuman, i'm so jealous
23:31.33mindjujuhow long you going to be down there?
23:35.04mindjujui wonder if anybody saw CHUD - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070709/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_sinkhole
23:36.25beandogyou gotta admit that'd be cool to see.
23:37.30mindjujuyeah, if CHUD didn't come reaching for ya
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23:38.18mindjuju~chud
23:38.36herlomindjuju: just a week
23:39.05mindjujujbot, chud is Cannibalistic Humanoid, Underground Dweller or a B movie from the 80s
23:39.06jbotokay, mindjuju
23:39.09mindjuju~chud
23:39.10jbot[chud] Cannibalistic Humanoid, Underground Dweller or a B movie from the 80s
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23:43.41mindjujuthebigdog , did you demote yourself?
23:43.59thebigdogy
23:44.08mindjujucurious
23:44.48mindjujuare you changing nicks again?
23:46.47dataw0lfyea
23:46.55dataw0lfto lilchihuaha
23:47.23mindjuju~wiki lilchihuaha
23:47.58dataw0lfor rather lilchihuahua
23:48.55beandogwhats up with you weirdos and these dog nicks
23:49.20thebigdognope not changing nicks
23:49.22mindjujuoh, whew!
23:49.28mindjujuscared me dataw0lf
23:49.41mindjujui didn't catch it, and thought it might be the name of some jacked up place in Iraq
23:49.43dataw0lfyou guys are just dogs
23:49.44dataw0lfI'm a w0lf
23:49.53dataw0lfa W0LF
23:49.56dataw0lfNote the ZERO
23:49.58mindjujuso i thought you were telling me the name of where you were going
23:49.59dataw0lfIt makes me KEWL
23:50.22herlomindjuju: pappadeux
23:50.32dataw0lfmindjuju: well, if the 75th wants me back, that means Benning
23:50.48dataw0lfbut, see I don't have the official orders
23:50.55mindjujuin georgia?
23:51.00dataw0lfthis is a warning that very soon I'll receive official orders
23:51.13dataw0lfyea, in Georgia, and then I'll go to Iraq with the rest of the 75th, I'm sure
23:51.54mindjujuhmmm...
23:52.06mindjujuany chance your going to benning to instruct?
23:52.15dataw0lfunless, and this has crossed my mind, they want me to impregnate a bunch of women, so they may create super soldiers from my seed.
23:52.22dataw0lfmindjuju: doubtful, i was only a corporal
23:52.47mindjujutoo funny about the women
23:52.59dataw0lfgotta keep a humorous outlook about the whole thing
23:53.32mindjujuyeah, we're going to have to throw you a party here before you go to Georgia
23:53.37mindjujuone for the recordbooks
23:56.01mindjujuwow
23:56.07mindjujuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Rangers
23:56.29mindjujuis that true?  Each Ranger battalion can deploy anywhere in the world within 18 hours' notice.

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