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| 00:30.45 | burnin | when writing code that is expected to be compatible with mysql and postgresql what is recommended for serial/autoincrement fields? |
| 00:32.05 | burnin | is it best just to handle it within the application code, i.e. make the field unique, query for the largest value, increment by one, create a record right away with the new value and then use update to edit the record? |
| 00:34.28 | mindjuju | int - identity is what i used in mysql, and it should work for psql |
| 00:34.38 | mindjuju | you REALLY don't want to autoincrement with code |
| 00:34.47 | mindjuju | lots of problems can arise this way |
| 00:35.00 | burnin | how do you create unique IDs ? |
| 00:35.00 | mindjuju | let's say your doing that for creating accounts |
| 00:35.12 | mindjuju | oh, sorry |
| 00:35.24 | mindjuju | identity mean that it is autoincrementing |
| 00:35.30 | mindjuju | so, int is the data type |
| 00:36.00 | burnin | so do you have an if statement to create an auto increment in mysql and a seriial in postgresql? |
| 00:36.45 | mindjuju | k, let's look at it this way |
| 00:37.00 | mindjuju | |userID|username|password| is a table |
| 00:37.10 | mindjuju | userID - int identity |
| 00:37.21 | mindjuju | username & password are both varchar 25 |
| 00:37.28 | mindjuju | k, when you go to insert the account record |
| 00:37.37 | mindjuju | you ONLY pass username and password |
| 00:37.47 | mindjuju | the database creates the userID |
| 00:37.54 | mindjuju | by virtue of it being int - identity |
| 00:38.37 | mindjuju | did that make sense, or am I misunderstanding the question? |
| 00:39.00 | burnin | so identity is an autoincrement feature? |
| 00:39.10 | mindjuju | yes |
| 00:39.43 | mindjuju | though in mysql, under phpmyadmin, i think there is a checkbox you have to check on to request it to be identity |
| 00:39.57 | mindjuju | how are you interfacing in mysql? |
| 00:40.26 | burnin | php sql queries, that is how I create the tables as well. |
| 00:40.56 | mindjuju | so you create your tables and view them just writing php code into a page? |
| 00:41.09 | mindjuju | oh i see, my bad -- badly phrased question |
| 00:41.17 | mindjuju | how do you admin your database? |
| 00:41.32 | burnin | command line, psql or mysql command |
| 00:42.03 | burnin | hmm, does postgresql support the identity type? |
| 00:43.07 | mindjuju | while typically jargon between sql versions (mysql, psql, ms sql) are similar, in this case, they aren't. (haven't used mysql in years, but could have sworn that i accessed the @@identity propertity) |
| 00:43.12 | mindjuju | k, in this case, have a look at this page |
| 00:43.35 | mindjuju | http://www.thescripts.com/forum/thread656544.html |
| 00:43.54 | mindjuju | go about 2/3 the way down |
| 00:44.20 | mindjuju | this is the line they are using |
| 00:44.21 | mindjuju | `pageid` BIGINT(20) UNSIGNED NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT, |
| 00:44.28 | mindjuju | let me check mysql and see what they recommend |
| 00:44.33 | mindjuju | what version of mysql are you using? |
| 00:45.01 | burnin | ah, so mysql will take the SERIAL type and alias it to their AUTO_INCREMENT |
| 00:45.11 | mindjuju | appears so |
| 00:45.21 | burnin | that may take care of the problem, both mysql and postgresql will work with SERIAL |
| 00:45.23 | mindjuju | though i'd double check with mysql.com for the absolute word |
| 00:45.44 | mindjuju | sorry to give ya bum information at first |
| 00:46.14 | burnin | bum info? |
| 00:46.21 | mindjuju | yeah, bad info on the identity |
| 00:46.28 | mindjuju | thought it was universal |
| 00:46.47 | burnin | oh, np, ended up with what I needed in the end. :) |
| 00:50.54 | burnin | damn it, forgot the usernames and passwords on the mysql development server |
| 00:50.58 | burnin | hate it when that happens |
| 00:51.35 | mindjuju | heh, yeah me too |
| 00:51.40 | burnin | got it |
| 00:56.44 | burnin | works :) |
| 00:57.00 | burnin | mysql does a proper alias of SERIAL type. |
| 00:57.59 | mindjuju | good to know, and knowing is half the battle! |
| 00:58.01 | burnin | now to change some code to support the new id :O |
| 01:22.08 | burnin | hmm, now another hurdle |
| 01:22.30 | burnin | may not be possible to overcome with the basic abstraction |
| 01:22.57 | mindjuju | what's the hurdle? |
| 01:23.29 | burnin | I'm using multiple users in the database with varied levels of permission, when granting permissions to the table with the SERIAL field it doesn't automatically grant permission to the underlying sequence that makes the SERIAL work. |
| 01:24.02 | burnin | ERROR: permission denied for sequence xorhomearticles_id_seq |
| 01:24.36 | burnin | haven't tested in mysql yet |
| 01:26.27 | mindjuju | not sure i follow |
| 01:27.56 | mindjuju | sorry, i'm converting like a 1000 (no kidding) letters to PDF using adobe batch, with tons of constraints, talking to my manager, doing some backups on 2 servers and watching the music vid for Groove is in the heart |
| 01:28.10 | mindjuju | so my brain is running out of cpu cycles |
| 01:28.50 | burnin | :) |
| 01:30.03 | mindjuju | with your question, are you asking how to access the account you created when you don't know the ID since it was created in SQL ? |
| 01:31.52 | burnin | no, after creating the table using the database owner I grant permission to another user who is an "editor". They can insert new records into the table, however, with the new SERIAL field the user can no longer insert new records because they do not have permissions on the sequence that was created for the SERIAL. |
| 01:33.03 | burnin | "Granting permission on a table does not automatically extend permissions to any sequences used by the table, including sequences tied to SERIAL columns. Permissions on sequence must be set separately." |
| 01:33.06 | burnin | ugh |
| 01:34.33 | mindjuju | hang on quick sec |
| 01:34.49 | mindjuju | GRANT SELECT, UPDATE ON sequence xorhomearticles_id_seq TO ...; |
| 01:35.10 | mindjuju | found on this page at the bottom http://www.issociate.de/board/post/179842/permission_problems.html |
| 01:39.28 | mindjuju | oh i found it, Tub Thumping - Chumbawamba |
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| 14:25.06 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 14:31.15 | timinator | morning |
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| 14:58.07 | mgeary | ~yawn |
| 14:58.07 | jbot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 15:17.32 | orsonj | speaking of incrementing stuff in sql, how would you get the id of a record you just inserted? (mysql if it matters) |
| 15:17.46 | mgeary | mysql_insert_id() |
| 15:18.50 | orsonj | cool, thanks |
| 15:22.26 | mgeary | hey, does anyone here know of a way to have IE 6 installed on a machine that has IE 7? |
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| 15:28.03 | mgeary | ~admire PoeticIntensity |
| 15:28.03 | jbot | ACTION secretly and androgynously wishes it were just like PoeticIntensity |
| 15:28.48 | PoeticIntensity | awwwww shucks. |
| 15:28.59 | PoeticIntensity | ain't much to admire, man.... ;-) |
| 15:29.02 | PoeticIntensity | how's life? and how was your 4th? |
| 15:29.29 | mgeary | we had a nice one. Just relaxed, ate food outside, and watched the Stadium of Fire from our balcony |
| 15:50.18 | mgeary | anyone got a few minutes to help me debug an IE 6 issue? I don't have a machine with IE 6 handy |
| 16:17.30 | Utah_Dave | I'm using MySQL 5.0.27. When I do a big import into a database, it's locking up every database I have in that server |
| 16:17.39 | Utah_Dave | any ideas as to why? |
| 16:17.54 | mgeary | is it trying to do several individual statements? or one massive one? |
| 16:19.15 | Utah_Dave | CREATE TABLE tblProduction_Filtered SELECT * FROM view_Production_Filtered; |
| 16:19.56 | Utah_Dave | We also run a job every night that takes a data dump, massages the data and inserts that into a table in database 1 |
| 16:20.26 | Utah_Dave | but while either of these are running, database 2 and 3 lock up. |
| 16:20.38 | Utah_Dave | Or at least the web interfaces depending on them lock up |
| 16:22.42 | mgeary | have you tried getting to a mysql> prompt via a terminal? |
| 16:22.50 | mgeary | doing a SHOW PROCESSES |
| 16:23.28 | Utah_Dave | I'll try that |
| 16:23.30 | mgeary | i'm not terribly experienced in views, but it seems that all the resources that are available to mysql are being consumed. |
| 16:23.33 | Utah_Dave | what should I look for |
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| 16:28.29 | mgeary | dunno, anything that stands out, really |
| 16:29.06 | mgeary | you can also look at the output of "top -u" on the cli, to see how much ram & cpu mysql is taking |
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| 17:02.16 | mgeary | brb |
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| 17:10.34 | thebigdog | oh how hard it is to come back to work |
| 17:13.27 | mgeary | amen, brother |
| 17:13.35 | mgeary | but hey, it's Thursday |
| 17:14.09 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:14.31 | thebigdog | i was up too late last night |
| 17:15.39 | thebigdog | *** Anyone Interested In Doing Appress Book Reviews on Ruby Rails and Ruby Msg me *** |
| 17:19.02 | Ritter | heh |
| 17:21.39 | thebigdog | i wanted to say pst me |
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| 18:53.27 | mindjuju | sup all |
| 18:54.20 | mindjuju | thebigdog, i bet john taber would on those books |
| 19:09.02 | thebigdog | im going to send that info to the mailing list to see if anyone wants too |
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| 20:01.20 | thebigdog | quiet today in the channel |
| 20:01.50 | mindjuju | what kind of toons? |
| 20:02.11 | mindjuju | teen titans? |
| 20:02.23 | thebigdog | thundercats |
| 20:02.37 | thebigdog | and some robotech |
| 20:02.40 | thebigdog | i love those |
| 20:02.41 | mindjuju | haven't seen thundercats in a long time |
| 20:02.59 | mindjuju | sounds like they are making a movie on thundercats |
| 20:03.10 | thebigdog | i thought i heard that |
| 20:07.14 | dataw0lf | Transformers == greatest movie evar |
| 20:07.19 | mindjuju | psh |
| 20:07.27 | mindjuju | i hear Optimus Prime has Jlo Lips |
| 20:11.39 | thebigdog | lol |
| 20:11.44 | thebigdog | i want to see it with my son |
| 20:11.57 | mindjuju | i can't go cause of the lips |
| 20:12.02 | mindjuju | i hear it is a great movie |
| 20:12.12 | thebigdog | it is great having kids...i loved when me pops took me to star wars and we enjoyed that...now i can do that with my son |
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| 20:12.29 | mindjuju | my son is too young for that, he's only 4 |
| 20:12.39 | thebigdog | dude my son is 2 and he loves it |
| 20:12.44 | mindjuju | really? |
| 20:12.46 | thebigdog | mindjuju, start early |
| 20:12.48 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 20:13.00 | mindjuju | well, i did have a sanitized mouse in his crib |
| 20:13.07 | thebigdog | we go all the time to the motorcycle store..im getting him ready for when he is 3 |
| 20:13.09 | mindjuju | and he's decent at the keyboard |
| 20:13.24 | mindjuju | are you going to buy him a motorcycle? |
| 20:13.25 | thebigdog | he loves spiderman and superman a lot |
| 20:13.29 | thebigdog | yep |
| 20:13.29 | mindjuju | do they have ones for 3 yrs old? |
| 20:13.34 | thebigdog | 50s |
| 20:13.42 | mindjuju | how fast do they go? |
| 20:13.45 | thebigdog | and you can throttle them down |
| 20:13.49 | thebigdog | like 1st gear |
| 20:14.29 | mindjuju | Corban has an electric John Deer Gator that goes like 5mph, but the moment we go gas, i think my wife will have fits |
| 20:14.50 | thebigdog | my wife will...but hey...he's my son |
| 20:15.17 | mindjuju | where do ya'll ride? |
| 20:16.17 | thebigdog | oh we have not started to ride yet |
| 20:16.20 | thebigdog | that is next year |
| 20:16.28 | thebigdog | ogden has some nice places to ride |
| 20:16.43 | thebigdog | by smith & edwards there is a track |
| 20:17.30 | thebigdog | but i want to start him riding soon |
| 20:18.07 | dataw0lf | the only problem with Transformers was Megatron |
| 20:18.15 | dataw0lf | because he turned into a fighter jet, not a gun |
| 20:18.17 | dataw0lf | :| |
| 20:18.22 | thebigdog | oh suck |
| 20:18.39 | dataw0lf | other than that, and the fact that they kinda screwed up the whole thing with the All Spark, it was pretty friggin sweet |
| 20:18.52 | thebigdog | it looks nice |
| 20:18.57 | dataw0lf | man, does it ever |
| 20:19.02 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, you seen the new die hard movie? |
| 20:19.04 | dataw0lf | took special effects ot a whole new level |
| 20:19.11 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: not yet, planning on it this weekend |
| 20:19.24 | dataw0lf | I heard Bruce Willis didn't utter enough one liners in this one |
| 20:19.32 | thebigdog | i heard it was good..just wanted to see if anyone here thought that too |
| 20:19.36 | thebigdog | lol |
| 20:19.40 | dataw0lf | "HO HO HO, NOW I HAVE A MACHINE GUN" |
| 20:19.47 | dataw0lf | greatest written line on a dead body in any movie ever |
| 20:20.08 | dataw0lf | the first Die Hard stands as a testament to awesome action movies |
| 20:20.27 | thebigdog | i wanting to get the dvd box set for christmas |
| 20:20.43 | dataw0lf | I got 1 - 3 on DVD |
| 20:20.55 | dataw0lf | watch the first one, like, every week |
| 20:20.57 | thebigdog | i have them on vhs...but now i can get them all on dvd |
| 20:21.01 | thebigdog | that is a great show |
| 20:21.07 | dataw0lf | along with Army of Darkness and the first Predator |
| 20:21.41 | dataw0lf | if there are aliens, I really hope they're like Predator |
| 20:21.44 | dataw0lf | cuz Predators are sweet |
| 20:21.46 | thebigdog | 2 of the greatest movies ever |
| 20:21.56 | thebigdog | my 6yr loves army of darkness |
| 20:22.12 | dataw0lf | hehe aewsome |
| 20:22.14 | dataw0lf | awesome* |
| 20:22.28 | dataw0lf | Of course, if Predators did exist, they would've already contacted me to be recruited |
| 20:22.36 | thebigdog | haha |
| 20:22.40 | dataw0lf | unless their HR staff is subpar, or something |
| 20:22.54 | dataw0lf | I don't think so though - the Predators definitely have to have a good PR staff |
| 20:22.56 | dataw0lf | err HR |
| 20:23.30 | thebigdog | my daughter always askes me to watch ash |
| 20:23.56 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 20:26.24 | thebigdog | mindjuju, if you get a bike for your son then we can all go riding |
| 20:26.30 | thebigdog | i need to get me one to |
| 20:45.13 | thebigdog | sure when i get mine |
| 20:47.29 | mindjuju | i could whip up some vittles! |
| 20:47.43 | mindjuju | this looks VERY interesting --> http://gophp5.org/ |
| 20:47.45 | Utah_Dave | sweet |
| 21:53.20 | thebigdog | ~special timinator |
| 21:53.30 | timinator | LOL |
| 21:59.32 | mindjuju | did you get an iPhone timinator ? |
| 21:59.34 | mindjuju | is it cool? |
| 21:59.39 | timinator | I wish |
| 21:59.44 | timinator | but no |
| 21:59.47 | mindjuju | oh |
| 22:00.16 | timinator | that's why I'll simply add the signature to my outgoing emails... |
| 22:00.26 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 22:00.39 | mindjuju | are you going to geek lunch tomorrow?> |
| 22:02.42 | thebigdog | anyone here interested in some c++ mysql work? |
| 22:05.12 | mindjuju | wow, openmoko phone is 450 --> http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20070630/openmoko-phone-is-open-source/ |
| 22:05.25 | mindjuju | about $400 too much for me |
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| 22:07.15 | thebigdog | phones are so expensive |
| 22:07.20 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 22:07.31 | mindjuju | and having a landline and a cell phone is just too much |
| 22:07.35 | thebigdog | i want a phone that i can upgrade features...no where i have to upgrade the whole phone |
| 22:07.50 | mindjuju | looks like the openmoko would do the ticket |
| 22:07.54 | thebigdog | way too much...tmobile has the new wifi enabled phone |
| 22:07.55 | mindjuju | but at $450 |
| 22:08.00 | thebigdog | i wonder how that will work |
| 22:08.01 | mindjuju | really? |
| 22:08.23 | mindjuju | i'm really thinking about that sprint wireless card |
| 22:08.35 | mindjuju | i always have my laptop, and my laptop battery is good |
| 22:08.44 | mindjuju | just plop it open and vpn in to what ever i need |
| 22:08.55 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, what kind of rig you got over there |
| 22:09.06 | mindjuju | seems like you mentioned being able to VPN from your handheld? |
| 22:13.43 | timinator | mindjuju: no, I will not be able to attend the geek lunch |
| 22:14.40 | timinator | I'm out guys... later |
| 22:18.00 | thebigdog | man i feel like having a geek bbq at my pad |
| 22:18.20 | thebigdog | i wonder how many would come |
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| 23:39.01 | herlo | thebigdog: me |
| 23:39.11 | thebigdog | really? |
| 23:40.13 | thebigdog | the cool thing is if anyone has kids i got a fenced backyard with play equipment so we are good on that front and we will have great food |
| 23:41.00 | PoeticIntensity | where do you live, thebigdog ? |
| 23:41.04 | thebigdog | layton |
| 23:41.09 | PoeticIntensity | hrm... |
| 23:41.15 | PoeticIntensity | that'd be quite a drive for me, but... |
| 23:41.21 | PoeticIntensity | I might come, too. |
| 23:41.38 | thebigdog | ill get with mindjuju and perhaps we can get something in the works |
| 23:41.58 | thebigdog | basically i would probably supply all the fixings and drinks (soda) |
| 23:42.19 | thebigdog | just bring self, meat and computer |
| 23:42.24 | thebigdog | or whatever |
| 23:43.19 | PoeticIntensity | also, thebigdog, I've seen the new die-hard movie... |
| 23:43.22 | PoeticIntensity | I recommend it.. |
| 23:43.28 | PoeticIntensity | wasn't SUPER good, but definitely up there. |
| 23:43.41 | thebigdog | cool..im thinking this weekend i might see it |
| 23:43.43 | thebigdog | not sure though |
| 23:43.44 | PoeticIntensity | true to whole die-hard mantra, anyway.. |
| 23:43.47 | PoeticIntensity | loads of action. |
| 23:43.51 | PoeticIntensity | some corniness... |
| 23:43.52 | thebigdog | sweet |
| 23:44.08 | PoeticIntensity | very, very little CG animation, which to me, is a HUGE relief. |
| 23:44.15 | PoeticIntensity | so... yeah... |
| 23:44.18 | PoeticIntensity | it's worth a see. |
| 23:44.37 | thebigdog | nice |
| 23:44.47 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, are you married? |
| 23:44.51 | PoeticIntensity | I are. |
| 23:44.54 | PoeticIntensity | with two kidlets. |
| 23:44.58 | thebigdog | oh cool |
| 23:45.06 | thebigdog | what ages, gender? |
| 23:45.11 | PoeticIntensity | and I seem to remember you are married, too...? |
| 23:45.13 | thebigdog | herlo, you are not married right? |
| 23:45.18 | PoeticIntensity | Luci = 3 years old |
| 23:45.21 | thebigdog | yeah i got 4 kiddies |
| 23:45.22 | PoeticIntensity | Collin = 16 months. |
| 23:45.26 | thebigdog | 16, 9, 6, 2 |
| 23:45.30 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 23:45.31 | PoeticIntensity | nice. |
| 23:45.42 | thebigdog | so you have some good ages to bring |
| 23:45.51 | PoeticIntensity | yeah. |
| 23:45.53 | PoeticIntensity | I'd bring em'. |
| 23:46.17 | PoeticIntensity | and... before I leave for the day.... |
| 23:46.20 | thebigdog | the park thing is fun...my problem is that sometimes its hard to watch the little ones |
| 23:46.34 | thebigdog | so with my backyard no worries |
| 23:46.38 | PoeticIntensity | might I say that the documentation team at PHP.net is probably the best documentation team I've ever seen. |
| 23:46.43 | PoeticIntensity | PHP docs are amazing. |
| 23:47.01 | PoeticIntensity | A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! |
| 23:47.10 | PoeticIntensity | anyway.... |
| 23:47.20 | thebigdog | i did some php docs on ldap a long time ago |
| 23:53.35 | thebigdog | man pgsql functions rock |
| 23:54.17 | mindjuju | tacos rock too |
| 23:54.35 | thebigdog | burritos are the bomb |
| 23:54.49 | cole_joplin | bye guys |
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| 23:57.57 | mindjuju | so, thebigdog , do you know what the identity property is in sql |
| 23:58.54 | thebigdog | mindjuju, not following you |
| 23:59.34 | mindjuju | k, that's what i was afraid of, it's just a ms sql (tsql) term |
| 23:59.58 | mindjuju | burnin and I were talking some sql stuff on Wednesday |