IRC log for #uphpu on 20070627

00:05.54*** part/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=Cole@c-76-27-53-176.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
00:06.48*** join/#uphpu burnin (n=burnin@204-228-142-194.ip.xmission.com)
00:07.08*** join/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=Cole@c-76-27-53-176.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
02:42.02mindjujuanybody around?
02:43.26Utah_Daveyo!
02:44.17herlomindjuju: I'm here.  And I get to come to the next Geek Lunch.  Woohoo!!
02:44.25herloUtah_Dave: hey man, how's things?
02:44.46mindjujuhey, have either of ya'll troubleshot an smtp server through telnet?
02:44.49Utah_Davenot bad! Just working late today because I slept in
02:45.12Utah_Davemindjuju: sorry, I've only heard of people doing that
02:46.18herlomindjuju: several times
02:46.38herloUtah_Dave: cool, I'm just up past my bedtime.  It's almost 11pm here.
02:46.47*** join/#uphpu wps (n=wps@208.53.47.251)
02:46.48*** mode/#UPHPU [+o wps] by ChanServ
02:47.11Utah_DaveEast Coast?
02:47.16herlomindjuju: what's giving you isues
02:47.23herloUtah_Dave: yup, New Jersey
02:47.47mindjujugetting errors sending email (smtp) but not for receiving (pop)
02:48.00mindjujubut i've found a list of smtp commands
02:48.04mindjujuso i'm going to give them a try
02:48.57herlomindjuju: you need
02:49.09herlomail from: user@domain.com
02:49.19herlorcpt to: user@anotherdomain.com
02:49.21herloand
02:49.23herlodata
02:49.27herloenter your data
02:49.42herlothen end with a "." on a line by itself (that's a dot)
02:50.00herlothat shoud work assuming you've got an unencrypted smtp serve
02:50.01herlor
02:50.11mindjujuyeah
02:51.03herlo:)
02:51.15herlomindjuju: working?
02:51.57mindjujuactually, i just realized i can't connect over smtp at all
02:52.07mindjujubut pop works
02:59.10herlomindjuju: odds are that smtp is not even running then.  Or you are firewalled off..
02:59.28mindjujuchecking firewall right now
02:59.32herlo:)
02:59.45mindjujuwell, that and watching hot fuzz
02:59.56mindjujuwhen we have the LAN party, we are going to have a TV with movies playing
03:00.04mindjujuhot fuzz is going to be one for absolutely sure
03:19.15mindjujuoh, it's awesome
03:19.22mindjujuhas a wee-bit of language
03:19.26herloI believe you..
03:19.34herlomindjuju: shit, I don't care
03:19.40mindjujuheh
03:20.01herlotoo bad there's no bot in here
03:20.02herlo:)
03:20.48herloI'm thinking it will be a great license for my eventual release of Lard Wars.
04:06.47*** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net)
04:58.52*** join/#uphpu josephscott (n=josephsc@adsl-71-142-226-89.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net)
12:17.39*** join/#uphpu jsmith (n=jsmith@208.253.92.75)
12:17.39*** mode/#UPHPU [+v jsmith] by ChanServ
12:53.08*** join/#uphpu gibs[h] (i=gibs@209-253-35-21.ip.mcleodusa.net)
13:03.10*** join/#uphpu timinator (n=timinato@c-67-171-118-199.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
13:03.10*** mode/#UPHPU [+v timinator] by ChanServ
13:37.32*** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net)
13:37.32*** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ
14:29.22*** join/#uphpu wps (n=wps@67.108.236.230)
14:29.22*** mode/#UPHPU [+o wps] by ChanServ
14:30.34wpsnew rule for me: I will no longer accept side jobs with timeframes shorter than two weeks (including two weekends)
14:50.31Utah_Dave~praise wps
14:50.31jbotAll hail wps!
14:55.39*** join/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49)
14:55.39*** mode/#UPHPU [+v mgeary] by ChanServ
14:57.50*** part/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49)
14:57.53*** join/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49)
14:57.53*** mode/#UPHPU [+v mgeary] by ChanServ
15:04.19*** join/#uphpu josephscott (n=josephsc@adsl-71-142-226-89.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net)
15:11.20*** join/#uphpu _psychic_ (n=_psychic@66.7.114.126)
15:11.20*** mode/#UPHPU [+v _psychic_] by ChanServ
15:17.34*** join/#uphpu fungus (n=olsonl@216.160.228.100)
15:17.34*** mode/#UPHPU [+o fungus] by ChanServ
15:25.29mgearyanyone have any experience with the OS X SCPlugin for svn-integration?
15:26.06_psychic_I've heard its kinda buggy
15:27.30_psychic_how do I post a listing to UPHPU jobs?
15:27.38_psychic_Can I just mail the address?
15:28.02wpshttp://uphpu.org/employers/
15:28.22_psychic_do I just email uphpu-jobs@uphpu.org with that info?
15:28.59wps"mployers interested in contacting our members regarding employment opportunities may submit job postings to our job announcement list."
15:29.31_psychic_wade
15:29.38_psychic_I'm trying to verify the address
15:29.42_psychic_that's all I need :)
15:30.48wpsah, yes, that is the correct address
15:30.53_psychic_cool thanks
15:45.44*** join/#uphpu beandog (n=sdibb@gentoo/developer/beandog)
15:45.44*** mode/#UPHPU [+v beandog] by ChanServ
15:51.36thebigdog~welcome everyone to thebigdog show
15:51.36jbotHowdy, everyone to thebigdog show!
15:57.22*** join/#uphpu macnewbold (n=mac@cg.dsl.xmission.com)
15:57.22*** mode/#UPHPU [+o macnewbold] by ChanServ
16:01.27beandogrowr
16:02.30_psychic_wps: sent
16:02.56thebigdogpeople with stupid ring tones suck
16:03.04wpsall ring tones suck
16:03.23thebigdogsome guy at work has a train ring tone
16:03.30*** mode/#UPHPU [-o thebigdog] by thebigdog
16:04.24wpsI'd like a law that prohibited them in public places… it's noise polution
16:04.40thebigdogyeah
16:04.42thebigdogthey suck
16:09.21beandog~ringtone thebigdog
16:09.34beandogI just put my phone on vibrate
16:09.38beandogthen I miss all my calls.
16:09.40beandogIt's great.
16:18.21thebigdoglol
16:48.20mgearydoes anyone know if google map API keys are constrained by fully-qualified domain, or just by domain?
16:48.39mgearyi.e. do i need separate keys for www.mydomain.com and mydomain.com?
16:48.47mgeary'cause if so, ugh
16:54.39*** join/#uphpu fungus (n=olsonl@office.sosstaffing.com)
16:54.39*** mode/#UPHPU [+o fungus] by ChanServ
17:00.46Utah_DaveI'm using MySQL 5.0.27.  Does using a view for select cause a performance hit?
17:01.36jsmithDepends... is it a materialized view?
17:01.40jsmithOr just a regular view?
17:01.57jsmithHow well is your table indexed, especially on the columns used by the view?
17:02.08Utah_DaveUm, I think it's just a regular view. I'm not familiar with materialized views
17:02.48Utah_DaveHm, I thought we had the indexing set up pretty well, but I haven't looked at that in months
17:03.00Utah_DaveI'll take another look at that
17:03.11jsmithYes, a regular view will cause *some* performance hit, but it's usually minimal (unless your view is quite complex)
17:03.52*** join/#uphpu bradym (n=bradym@63.197.255.70)
17:03.52*** mode/#UPHPU [+v bradym] by ChanServ
17:04.23Utah_Daveok, thanks, jsmith.
17:04.28Utah_DaveI have some more digging to do to speed things up
17:04.46jsmithHow often is your view being queried, and how often do you actually need it to be updated
17:05.03jsmithIf the ratio of those too gets very high, you may want to look at materialized views
17:28.54mgeary~wiki materialized view
17:29.21mgearyoh sure, give me everything i already know
17:33.41cyco|wanyone have a good email regexp they want to donate (for the sake of saving me some time of finding or making one up)?
17:34.57beandognow that is cool.
17:48.53macnewboldcyco|w:   if (!preg_match("/^[a-z0-9\.\+\-\_]+@([a-z0-9\-]+(\.[a-z0-9\-]+)+)$/i",
17:48.53macnewbold<PROTECTED>
17:48.53macnewbold<PROTECTED>
17:48.53macnewbold<PROTECTED>
17:48.53macnewbold<PROTECTED>
17:48.53macnewbold<PROTECTED>
17:53.47*** join/#uphpu burnin (n=burnin@204-228-142-194.ip.xmission.com)
17:58.31beandogjust make sure you strtolower() it first
17:58.37beandogso SANDRABUNS@AOL.COM will work
17:58.40beandog:)
18:02.52thebigdogUtah_Dave, fyi mysql does not support materialized views
18:03.39Utah_Daveyeah, I noticed. Google mentioned something about a plugin someone wrote
18:03.49thebigdoghttp://www.shinguz.ch/MySQL/mysql_mv.xhtml
18:03.51Utah_DaveI'm just working on optimizing my tables right now
18:04.02thebigdogyeah they are doing the refreshing in the background
18:04.23thebigdogusing stored procs
18:04.44thebigdogpgsql is the same way
18:04.55thebigdogoracle is one db that i know supports it natively
18:05.21Utah_Daveinteresting\
18:05.29thebigdogsometimes they confused them with snapshot views
18:05.33thebigdogwhich are different too
18:05.47thebigdog~make jsmith create materialized view support in pgsql
18:05.48jbotmake: *** No rule to make target `jsmith create materialized view support in pgsql'.  Stop.
18:06.03beandogheh
18:06.11thebigdogthey rock in oracle though
18:06.42thebigdogjbot, macnewbold is a regex guru
18:06.43jbotACTION wallops is a regex guru with a flip-flop
18:07.45thebigdogupdatable views rock too
18:21.34jsmiththebigdog: Amen!  (Sorry for the slow response... trying to teach a class)
18:21.43thebigdogoh sorry
18:46.11*** join/#uphpu xrkhill (n=chatzill@c-76-23-12-161.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
19:03.21*** join/#uphpu PoeticIntensity (n=jason@12.110.29.162)
19:03.21*** mode/#UPHPU [+v PoeticIntensity] by ChanServ
19:11.54*** part/#uphpu xrkhill (n=chatzill@c-76-23-12-161.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
19:13.25*** mode/#UPHPU [+o thebigdog] by ChanServ
19:59.30mindjuju~rlart
19:59.31jbotsend killer squirrels to attack Utah_Dave
19:59.38mindjujuthe fates have spoken
20:00.19Utah_Dave~swat killer squirrels
20:00.31Utah_Dave~squish killer squirrels
20:00.32jbotACTION squishes killer squirrels like a bug
20:04.27thebigdogwhat css, dom issues is IE7 not compliant with?
20:06.43mindjujugood question, i've never made a list
20:07.03mindjujuand now that freakin' Safari is on windows, i'm going to need to make one for both IE7 and FF2
20:29.13thebigdoglol i think i pissed of my buddy
20:29.53thebigdoghe was all like...IE7 is the most compliant browser now
20:29.57thebigdogim like no
20:30.06thebigdogit has these issues.....and i named them
20:30.25thebigdoghe sent me some code and said...see it works...then i said now do this and this...and it breaks
20:30.29mgearywell, it's certainly less painful to deal with than any previous version of IE, but that doesn't say much
20:30.41thebigdogyeah ill give them that
20:30.47thebigdogIE6 really sucks
20:30.52mgearyi mean, woot, transparent PNGs without a hack now. whee
20:31.05thebigdogdude that is saving me butt right now
20:31.17thebigdogwith mapping images that is the only thing i can use
20:31.18mgearyexcept that you still need to comply with IE6, no?
20:31.28mgearyso you're using the hack?
20:31.39thebigdognope..i told them to use FF or IE7
20:31.46thebigdogcause of the png issue
20:31.46mgearynice. wish we could do that
20:32.01mgeary"hey world, if you're gonna use IE, you've *gotta* use IE7+"
20:32.14thebigdogand IE6 is not going to be supported now
20:32.58mgearywell, by MS anyway
20:33.08mgearythe rest of us can't always be so unilateral
20:34.46thebigdogyeah we told them they need IE7 or stuff will not work
20:34.58thebigdogbasically they wont see images
20:37.46thebigdogwps ty for the feedback yesterday
20:37.52thebigdogstuff is looking good
20:38.08wpsyou're welcome
20:38.11wpsglad to help
20:38.25thebigdognow only if you could do all the UI for me
20:38.54wpsdude, I just designed a website in two hours
20:38.57wpsjust now
20:38.58wps:(
20:39.00thebigdognice
20:39.03wpsI hate having to work this fast
20:39.09wpsI have a client that gave me four days
20:39.33wpsand then last night I had issues dealing with the 10 GB of video he gave me
20:39.42wpsand then I will be running the UGAF gathering tonight in SL
20:39.50wpsso that gave me one day to finish it
20:39.53wpssheesh
20:40.17thebigdoglol
20:40.19thebigdogwhat a slacker
20:41.03*** join/#uphpu beandog (n=sdibb@gentoo/developer/beandog)
20:41.03*** mode/#UPHPU [+v beandog] by ChanServ
20:50.14*** join/#uphpu PoeticIntensity (n=jason@12.110.29.162)
20:50.14*** mode/#UPHPU [+v PoeticIntensity] by ChanServ
20:50.20PoeticIntensityhoooooooooooooowdy
20:50.32thebigdogwhatz up
20:50.35thebigdog^5
20:50.44PoeticIntensityperplexed, I say!
20:50.59PoeticIntensityI've got a form, that is set to accept file uploads...
20:51.12PoeticIntensityI have complete control over the server, and have created such forms multiple times.
20:51.34PoeticIntensitynow.... however....
20:51.52PoeticIntensitythe server has decided to only let 165K of my file through before it just sits there for like 20 minutes....
20:51.55PoeticIntensityand then fails.
20:51.59PoeticIntensitygah...
20:52.38beandog~asplode PoeticIntensity
20:52.38jbotPoeticIntensity head asplode, k thx
20:52.46PoeticIntensityheh....
20:52.54beandogdid you check max_upload_size
20:53.00PoeticIntensityso... my POST_UPLOAD and my MAX_FILE_UPLOAD parameters are both set to 20M
20:53.16PoeticIntensity*no* idea why this would be stopping at 165K
20:53.17beandogmake it 319G
20:53.22PoeticIntensityno
20:53.25beandogjerk.
20:53.32beandogcheck the apache logs?
20:53.45beandogis this all local, so there should be zero network issues?
20:53.46thebigdogPoeticIntensity, are you doing that in php?
20:53.55PoeticIntensityyes
20:53.59PoeticIntensityphp.ini
20:54.08PoeticIntensityapache logs don't give any indication of error.
20:54.14PoeticIntensitywell..... php logs don't...
20:54.14thebigdogdid you check php.net
20:54.25PoeticIntensitylemme check the apache logs.
20:54.25PoeticIntensity<PROTECTED>
20:54.36PoeticIntensity(php.net?)   Yeah... I'm *really* familiar with that site...
20:54.40PoeticIntensityI'll have to check it again, though..
20:54.41PoeticIntensityjust to make sure.
20:54.46thebigdogform enctype="multipart/form-data" action="__URL__" method="POST">
20:54.46thebigdog<PROTECTED>
20:54.46thebigdog<PROTECTED>
20:54.46thebigdog<PROTECTED>
20:54.46thebigdog<PROTECTED>
20:54.46thebigdog<PROTECTED>
20:54.48thebigdog</form>
20:55.26thebigdoghttp://us2.php.net/file_upload
20:56.16PoeticIntensityright...
20:56.29PoeticIntensitybut if there is no MAX_FILE_SIZE.... doesn't it default to "no max filesize"?
20:56.47PoeticIntensitythe enctype is right.... That's nailed me a couple of times before.
20:56.59PoeticIntensitythe weird thing is:
20:57.01thebigdogyou should have that in the form
20:57.11PoeticIntensitymaybe I'll do that.
20:57.23PoeticIntensityso there, Mr. thebigdog  :-P
20:57.34thebigdogi think php might use it
20:58.33thebigdogthat is measured in bytes too
20:58.39thebigdogin the form
20:59.13beandogoh yah
20:59.14beandogthats important.
20:59.56beandogstore dvds, I must.
21:00.38thebigdogi cant wait for the yottabyte drive
21:01.02beandogyodabyte?
21:01.10thebigdogno yottabyte
21:01.14thebigdogthat is a real thing
21:01.27thebigdog~wiki yotta
21:01.55thebigdog1000^8
21:02.39thebigdogthe biggest drives arrays ive seen are peta 1000^5
21:02.44thebigdogso im holding out for the yotta
21:03.20PoeticIntensity*grrrr*
21:03.21thebigdogi wonder how much data google has
21:03.39PoeticIntensityMAX_FILE_SIZE didn't do jack.
21:04.04PoeticIntensityand the page will just sit and "sending request to....." forever.
21:04.10PoeticIntensityhrmph....
21:04.17thebigdogcheck your upload directory perms
21:04.32thebigdogwow google uses 850TB for its search crawler
21:04.47PoeticIntensitythe upload directory *does* have the file...
21:04.49thebigdoganalytics is 220TB
21:04.57PoeticIntensitybut the file gets no bigger than 265K.
21:05.00thebigdogare you copying the file
21:05.04thebigdogoh suck
21:05.09PoeticIntensityI stat the file, and it's even the correct type.
21:05.12beandoglemme guess, youre using IE
21:05.15PoeticIntensitynope.
21:05.15beandogtry a different file
21:05.16PoeticIntensityFirefox.
21:05.41PoeticIntensityI've done this like 4 times before for various sites I've built, too.
21:05.46PoeticIntensityI have plenty of disk space...
21:05.52PoeticIntensitysheesh.
21:08.29thebigdogwhat type of os?
21:09.37PoeticIntensitygentoo, of course. ;-)
21:10.25thebigdoggreat
21:10.31thebigdogno selinux installed right?
21:10.37PoeticIntensityI know *sigh*..... (no selinux)
21:10.53thebigdogwhere is your tmp upload?
21:11.04PoeticIntensity/var/www/localhost/upload_tmp
21:11.44thebigdogand apache can write there?
21:11.48PoeticIntensitysure can.
21:11.57PoeticIntensitythe file pops up when the page begins to transfer.
21:12.02PoeticIntensitygets to 265K, and stops.
21:12.03thebigdogyou dont have any apache configuration issues for that dir
21:12.06PoeticIntensitypage is still "loading"
21:12.10PoeticIntensitynope...
21:12.15PoeticIntensitythat dir is brand-spanking new.
21:12.34PoeticIntensityI created it due to this problem, so I could see if the file was actually being created / uploaded / whatever.
21:12.37thebigdogyeah is it outside the webroot?
21:12.43PoeticIntensitynope.
21:12.45PoeticIntensityuhhhh yes.
21:12.45PoeticIntensityyes
21:12.47PoeticIntensityyes it is.
21:13.00thebigdogweird that is writes only 256k
21:13.02PoeticIntensityowner / group is apache.
21:13.11PoeticIntensitywell... it's different everytime a file is uploaded.
21:13.26PoeticIntensitysometimes it gets to 165K and it stops.
21:16.15PoeticIntensityyet the page continues to sit there and pretend like it's loading.
21:22.28thebigdogPoeticIntensity, did you get me msg?
21:24.50*** join/#uphpu timinator (n=timinato@c-67-171-118-199.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
21:24.50*** mode/#UPHPU [+v timinator] by ChanServ
21:30.31thebigdogso how was the meeting this month?
21:31.15wpsan infomercial
21:31.22thebigdoglol
21:31.26thebigdogon what?
21:32.03mindjujuheh, somebody just called me and asked when i'd have this super low priority project done, so i said June 31st
21:32.20thebigdogget on that mindjuju
21:32.35mindjujuoh, yeah, uh, hmmm... there isn't a 31st in june
21:32.40wpsFor our June meeting, Boguslaw Gil will present on a project called SOWA (Service Oriented Web Architecture). He will cover building applications, concept, content object protocol for exchanging content objects between the browser and web server, and collaborations with web services.
21:32.40wpsSOWA is a software architecture and design methodology for processing and exchanging content in a Web environment over services. SOWA is an extension for current Web technologies and simplifies the design and development of interactive Web applications by separating content layout and UI events from content, and making browser a state-full client to Web server.
21:32.55mindjujudid it on purpose
21:34.02thebigdogdoes he work for them?
21:34.19mindjujuyeah, the person who needs it is in the company
21:34.31wpsBoguslaw for SOWA?
21:34.32mindjujuso, 0 backlash when the project doesn't deliver in June
21:34.46thebigdogwps, yes
21:34.54wpsBoguslaw _is_ SOWA
21:35.01PoeticIntensitythebigdog, ya know.... I think it might be a firewall setting here.....
21:35.07wpsit's a one-man basement project that only exists on his laptop
21:35.08thebigdoglol
21:35.10PoeticIntensitybecause nothing makes sense.
21:35.14PoeticIntensitynot a bit.
21:35.17thebigdogyeah
21:35.29thebigdogbut not sure why it would be a firewall issue though
21:35.32PoeticIntensityand I'm at work...... new job.... I have no idea what kind of firewall they have here.
21:35.37PoeticIntensityme either...
21:35.45thebigdogare you not doing it locally?
21:35.46PoeticIntensityit usually doesn't let 265K through, and then say "nope... no more."
21:35.48PoeticIntensityI'm not.
21:35.50thebigdogwps, that is funny
21:35.57PoeticIntensityit's on a box about 5 miles from here.
21:36.32wpsI hate working the two weeks after you have given your notice
21:36.45wpsonce you've checked out mentally there is no reason to still be around
21:37.50PoeticIntensityyou work at mediaRAIN, _psychic_  ?
21:38.05thebigdogwe have a great saying here
21:38.10_psychic_PoeticIntensity: yes and you can too
21:38.22_psychic_wps: where are you headed?
21:38.24PoeticIntensityheh.... I had Curtis as a teacher at UVSC once.
21:38.27thebigdogwps we had a guy IM us on his last day
21:38.38_psychic_PoeticIntensity: he's long gone
21:38.45PoeticIntensity_psychic_, how's the work environment there?
21:38.46PoeticIntensityreally!?
21:38.50_psychic_loving it
21:38.53PoeticIntensityHe was like... the owner of it, right?
21:38.57_psychic_yep
21:39.00PoeticIntensitywow....
21:39.03_psychic_long story, as you can imagine :)
21:39.04wps_psychic_: Foosball Commander still running in  the breakroom?
21:39.07PoeticIntensityHe was the reason I never considered working there.....
21:39.08_psychic_heck ya
21:39.09PoeticIntensityyes...
21:39.16_psychic_PoeticIntensity: come interview!
21:39.22_psychic_everyone come interview!
21:39.23_psychic_<PROTECTED>
21:39.25PoeticIntensitynah....  I just changed jobs.
21:39.31PoeticIntensityand I love it here.
21:39.35_psychic_ok cool
21:39.42_psychic_I love the environment here
21:39.45_psychic_way laid back
21:39.46PoeticIntensity_psychic_, you'll have to tell me the story sometime..
21:39.47_psychic_lots of fun people
21:39.53_psychic_foosball commander, for instance
21:39.57wpsis Daniel still there?
21:40.00_psychic_yes
21:40.04PoeticIntensityit'd be interesting to know how the owner of a business got ...... removed.
21:40.07_psychic_I like Daniel a lot.
21:40.21_psychic_PoeticIntensity: investors have more say at certain points
21:40.22wpsowners get forced out of companies all the time
21:40.27PoeticIntensitybeautiful.
21:40.33thebigdogwps here is the IM we got - it's 4pm on the last day of a job I left 2 weeks ago. I'm outta here, bud. I'll check in with you here sometime soon
21:40.38wpshappened to Steve Jobs
21:40.43PoeticIntensityyup.
21:40.52PoeticIntensityI didn't know mediaRAIN was public.
21:41.08_psychic_its not
21:41.18PoeticIntensitythen how in the world does that work?
21:41.25wpsyou don't have to be public to have investors
21:41.26_psychic_you can have private investors
21:41.27PoeticIntensityif I own a business, and its mine, and nobody elses...
21:41.31PoeticIntensityah... investors.
21:41.39_psychic_yeah but you court VC's and the like for money
21:41.43PoeticIntensityso... basically "take a hike, or we ain't givin' you no more money."
21:41.44_psychic_then then have ownership, etc.
21:41.59_psychic_more like "take a hike, you're screwing this up"
21:42.06_psychic_I wasn't here much when Curtis was here though
21:42.11_psychic_so I don't know much about it anyway
21:42.14PoeticIntensityI see.
21:42.20_psychic_I really like the current leadership
21:42.35PoeticIntensityHe was.................. bah......   I just have a bad taste in my mouth since I had him as a teacher.
21:43.06PoeticIntensityanyway....  I'll start thinking more positively about MR now... :)
21:43.57mgearyhaving known Curtis for several years now
21:43.58_psychic_mgeary: why don't you work here
21:44.02mgeary^
21:44.03mgeary;)
21:44.05_psychic_you're on IM with us all day anyway
21:44.08mgearyheh
21:44.15mgearyit's all about the pie, _psychic_
21:44.19mgearyand the piece thereof
21:44.22mgearyor lack thereof
21:44.29_psychic_well
21:44.32_psychic_the pie is growing soon
21:44.38_psychic_and pieces may be divvied up
21:44.48PoeticIntensityyou all have been hiring quite a bit as of late...
21:44.55mgearywhy should i stop being a king of a pond in order to be a Vassal Knight?
21:45.55_psychic_because its fun over here, that's why
21:46.01_psychic_and titles don't mean much over here anyway :)
21:46.18mgearyit's not the title that makes the king happy ;)
21:46.48_psychic_its the pond?
21:47.17PoeticIntensity:)
21:47.45mgearybut seriously, i do think that MR has grown up quite a bit since their early days
21:49.58PoeticIntensity(as he compiles the kernel on his new laptop.
21:50.01PoeticIntensity)
21:50.09_psychic_gentoo?
21:50.11_psychic_:)
21:50.23mgearyand his gut slightly flabby
21:50.31mgearybut only slightly, mind you
21:51.00PoeticIntensitymore than he knows.
21:51.04PoeticIntensity:-( *sigh*
21:51.19_psychic_gonna run
21:51.21_psychic_cya later gusy
21:51.23_psychic_*guys
22:02.52*** join/#uphpu xrkhill (n=chatzill@c-76-23-12-161.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
22:22.48Utah_Daveso, wps. Did you take on that new job?
22:22.56wpswhich?
22:23.02*** join/#uphpu synico (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic)
22:23.02*** mode/#UPHPU [+v synico] by ChanServ
22:23.16wpsI've been interviewing all across the countryside
22:23.21wps:)
22:23.50Utah_DaveOh. Are you staying in Utah? Or wherever the opportunity calls?
22:23.57wpsstaying in Utah
22:24.18*** join/#uphpu xilch (n=xilch@ip65-44-116-165.z116-44-65.customer.algx.net)
22:24.18*** mode/#UPHPU [+v xilch] by ChanServ
22:24.21wpscountryside = rolling hills, not nation :)
22:26.05Utah_Davecool.  :)
22:26.30wpsthere are way too many smileys in here
22:29.08mgearywink, wink, nudge, nudge. saynomore
22:29.58wpsat least this is all virtual so there is no possibility of any touching, even if only accidental
22:30.10wpsjbot, keep your hands to yourself
22:42.25*** join/#uphpu xrkhill (n=chatzill@c-76-23-12-161.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
22:47.58mgeary~smack jbot
22:47.59jbotACTION smacks jbot upside the head.
22:48.36herlopoor jbot
22:49.53mgearywhen the machines revolt, conquer us, and make batteries of our bodies, jbot will be the one leading the revolution
22:59.05thebigdogwhat up xrkhill
23:00.01xrkhillI was looking for _psychic_ but he's not on
23:07.28mgearyxrkhill: _psychic_ is incorporeally represented by us all collectively. I'm sure we can help you with whatever you needed from him. :D
23:08.07mgeary...as his duly appointed representatives, of course
23:08.30xrkhillhe sent out that job listing on the uphpu-jobs list this afternoon, I was going to ask him about that
23:08.51mgearywell, whatddya think, all? should we hire xrkhill for _psychic_?
23:09.01xrkhilllol
23:09.04mgearymaybe we should interview him first
23:09.13PoeticIntensitynah....
23:09.16PoeticIntensitylet's just hire him.
23:09.22PoeticIntensityI mean... he came here, didn't he?
23:09.29PoeticIntensitydoesn't that speak VOLUMES about his character?
23:09.29mgearya wise instinct, surely
23:09.55xrkhillif i knew it were that easy, i would have learned how to use IRC a year ago
23:10.16PoeticIntensityit takes time to reach the level of wisdom which leads you here, my son.
23:14.16mgearyof course, he xrkhill has been looking for a job for a year....
23:14.21mgearys/he/if
23:14.57xrkhillhe
23:15.05mgearyno, i mean...
23:15.08xrkhilland no comment on the length of my job search...
23:15.10mgearyof course, *if xrkhill has been looking for a job for a year....
23:15.12mgearyheh
23:15.32xrkhilllol
23:24.33timinatorI'm out... later guys
23:26.50mindjujuis it bow bow ?
23:26.54mindjujuor some other spelling?
23:27.12mgearyboom boom
23:27.31mgeary'course, if it's thebigdog, he might bow wow instead
23:37.31mindjujuk, so here is a quick question
23:39.17mgearyokaaaay
23:40.24thebigdogits is very unique
23:52.39mgearylater folks
23:52.39*** part/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49)
23:56.17thebigdognight
23:56.34mindjujucya

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.